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Author Topic: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000  (Read 18134 times)

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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2013, 11:43:26 pm »
I have 3 of the farish version. I have EWS, EWS/British Steel and mainline Blue.

Trouble is Mainline Blue has developed a fault. Im no loco doctor, so some advice needed please. Loco now ticks as it moves along doing like a slight hop.
Is this a split gear do you think?
I know many locos get them, but i thought this was rare for a Farish class 60?

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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2013, 10:45:05 am »
Modern Farish still gets them. Some of the batches of the 66s have been terrible the 57s split  now and then too - replacement axles are also very hard to get as hey now vary by locomotive type rather than being standard sizes. Replacement idler gears you can get more easily.

Bachmann have IMHO still not fixed the problem which is now a years old design flaw. It's better than it was but it's still really poor. In most industries you wouldn't be able to get away with it.

If its under  2 years old ask the shop to replace it as its clearly unfit for the purpose it was sold. If they whine about the guarantee being less than 2 years remind them the law says otherwise for faults present at manufacture (eg design faults) and if they keep whining see your local trading standards.

If its older than 2 years, phone Bachmanns spares people and see if they now have suitable replacements in stock If not you'll need to dismantle the existing axle and change the gear. That's non trivial but not impossible.
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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2013, 11:38:15 am »
Hi Gang;

As previously diagnosed, it sounds like a split gear, which continues to be a frustration. 

Unlike others, I have had no joy arguing the point with Bachmann's service department and I ended up buying a stock of Class 66 axles.  Which was fine until my 57 started doing the same.  I decided to replace these wheels with standard Farish axles and opened out the bottom of the axle covers.  The loco now runs fine on standard axles and stops scraping the tops of point frogs as an added benefit.

Not sure if the same tactic will work on the 60 but I have just recently acquired a 2nd hand one with a similar problem...so may use it as a guinea pig...

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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2013, 12:38:50 pm »
I decided to replace these wheels with standard Farish axles and opened out the bottom of the axle covers.  The loco now runs fine on standard axles and stops scraping the tops of point frogs as an added benefit.

I just replace the gears on the original wheels. These are still all standard and the same (the normal 16 toother that Farish have used for years).

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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2013, 01:03:49 pm »

I just replace the gears on the original wheels. These are still all standard and the same (the normal 16 toother that Farish have used for years).

Cheers,
Alan

Indeed Alan,

Once I have a small batch, the wheelsets get dismantled and re-geared.  The newer wheels are a tad more fiddly to do!!!

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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2013, 03:46:08 pm »
Unlike others, I have had no joy arguing the point with Bachmann's service department

You need to have that argument with the store that provided the unfit goods. It's their problem for selling you the stuff - however unfair it may seem. How they settle their side of the problem with Bachmann is their problem.

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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2013, 09:00:50 pm »
Thanks for your replies Gentlemen. I will take it back to the same model shop i bought it from. I will not ask for a refund though as i bought it on release over 4 years ago now and the model shop i got it from are really friendly so they will probably repair it for next to nothing though any way! :thumbsup:

I will let you know the diagnosis.....

Cheers all,

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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2013, 10:48:29 pm »
Hi Guys and Dolls
I just noticed Kernow have the new Metals sector class 60 in stock.

http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/product/37590/371356_Graham_Farish_Class_60_Diesel_Locomotive_number_60_029

Cheers

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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2013, 08:41:49 pm »
Woooo, finally some traction for my SPA's. Rails are showing stock now too so my pre-order should be on it's way.

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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2013, 09:52:34 pm »
Woooo, finally some traction for my SPA's. Rails are showing stock now too so my pre-order should be on it's way.

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Order picked on Saturday, should be with you Tuesday :P I've got the DB one on order and this first batch sold very quickly so mine's in our next batch of them.

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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2013, 09:57:04 pm »
I think i will be buying a Schenker liveried version, these will be hitting the shops imminently according to Farish website. My wallet is gonna shrink though :-\


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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #56 on: February 17, 2013, 10:07:51 pm »
I think i will be buying a Schenker liveried version, these will be hitting the shops imminently according to Farish website. My wallet is gonna shrink though :-\

They hit our one on Saturday :P

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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2013, 10:20:05 pm »
I noticed Kernow have the DBS one too. Must resist...

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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #58 on: February 27, 2013, 07:48:37 pm »
 :bounce:

Just picked my Metals Sector version up and it's superb, really quiet bar rail noise. It's just running in now so will post a pic shortly.

Can't wait to hook the SPA's up to it, better crack on with putting the pegs in the holes!

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Re: Graham Farish - Class 60's - Post 2000
« Reply #59 on: February 27, 2013, 09:18:10 pm »
Pics as promised, really happy with this, should pull loads as it weighs a fair bit.





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