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Author Topic: Farish Midland 20T Brake Van  (Read 2087 times)

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Farish Midland 20T Brake Van
« on: December 13, 2014, 08:53:07 pm »
Another recent release that seems to have gone unnoticed is the quite delightful Midland brake van.



With the surge in LMS locomotives that we have had of late (and long may it continue!...3F please! :D ), some variation in the back end of our trains is most welcome indeed! The 00 gauge model of the same vehicle came in for some stick because of an apparently obtrusive screw inside the cabin to fix the body and chassis together, no such obtrusiveness here! Not that I see anyway.



Interestingly, this van has been fitted with a close coupling cam for the NEM pocket, quite who intends on operating these on sub 4" radius curvature is anybodys guess, but it will probably do it! The generous sideplay may affect operation of Dapol knuckes by opening them too far out to the side for reliable delayed coupling, but the spring does have some resistance so it may be fine. Herein lies my only real problem, this van is very lightweight. I think that for operating with knuckles reliably, some extra ballast may well be needed. Certainly when at the head of a train and when being propelled it does become a bit jittery through pointwork. A few extra grams should cure that though.

I wonder how long it will be before someone converts one of these to the structure gauging van which survived well into the 1980s.
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Re: Farish Midland 20T Brake Van
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2014, 12:24:37 am »
Yes they look good...

As an aside, Farish said the reason there was no brake van in the forthcoming 'landship' trainpack (with the Midland 4F and transporter wagons) was they didn't have anything suitable in the range, well here it is and it has beaten the trainpack to market despite being announced later and with much less fanfare!


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Re: Farish Midland 20T Brake Van
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2014, 03:24:17 pm »
Bachmann are correct in saying there is no suitable brake van in their range for a WWI train pack. This particular model is of an LMS development of a 1919 Midland Railway diagram (as Peco produce) that dates from 1923/4. The model with duckets is later still, originating from 1926 before further development eventually leading to the later 16ft wheelbase brake van in 1935. This model shouldn't really be called a 'Midland' brake van, but calling it an 'LMS brake van' makes it harder to distinguish from the 1935 diagram they already produce. Perhaps describing them as 'Midland Pattern LMS Built' or '1923 LMS' and '1926 LMS' would be more accurate but it is getting very close to overstepping a line somewhere.
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Re: Farish Midland 20T Brake Van
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2014, 01:42:21 pm »
With the surge in LMS locomotives that we have had of late (and long may it continue!...3F please! :D )...

You can get an LMS 3F from Union Mills... right now  ;)

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Re: Farish Midland 20T Brake Van
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2014, 02:15:48 pm »
I know, I have several...and a few 2Fs too ;) They're getting long in the tooth with a lot of exhibition running under their belts, a couple need remotoring and they would all benefit from some extra pickups, to the point I want to do away with the traction tyres and fit pickups in their place. They'd probably still out haul just about anything with no tyres! But, with the Farish 4F on the very near horizon I just know that I will be wanting to try and fit the 4F mech into a UM 3F and retain the gorgeous Farish Johnson tender they've done, which I know deep down isn't going to be viable. Hmmm...Farish wheelsets on UM mech inside Farish tender...
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Re: Farish Midland 20T Brake Van
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2014, 08:50:42 pm »
And there I was wondering whether I could simply get a UM Johnson tender without a motor but with the wheels so that it could be attached to a Farish 4F...

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Re: Farish Midland 20T Brake Van
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2018, 02:30:52 pm »
And with the 2018 Farish announcements now there is a MR brakevan to complete the “Landship Train” set.

377-753   Midland 20 Ton Brake Van MR Grey   
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Re: Farish Midland 20T Brake Van
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2018, 09:05:24 pm »
And with the 2018 Farish announcements now there is a MR brakevan to complete the “Landship Train” set.

377-753   Midland 20 Ton Brake Van MR Grey


Hmm... I beat them to it by 3 years...  ;) :wave:
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=27868.msg308518#msg308518

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Re: Farish Midland 20T Brake Van
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2018, 10:13:19 pm »
And with the 2018 Farish announcements now there is a MR brakevan to complete the “Landship Train” set.

377-753   Midland 20 Ton Brake Van MR Grey


Hmm... I beat them to it by 3 years...  ;) :wave:
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=27868.msg308518#msg308518


I see you had a Thank you” from me back then too. I’m consistent at least!
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Re: Farish Midland 20T Brake Van
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2018, 10:27:07 pm »
I see you had a Thank you” from me back then too. I’m consistent at least!
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Re: Farish Midland 20T Brake Van
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2018, 02:44:55 pm »
Isn't it just a repaint of the LMS version though so still post-WW1 as mentioned above?

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Re: Farish Midland 20T Brake Van
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2018, 03:34:23 pm »
Isn't it just a repaint of the LMS version though so still post-WW1 as mentioned above?

Thanks for the reminder. So I'll have to hack a Peco kit then.
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