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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2415 on: April 24, 2018, 06:10:19 pm »
Thanks to Benís advice, I have now fitted the light bars and got all 9 units coupled together. Very pleased with the results. Thanks to Ben and Mike for organising this model.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2416 on: April 24, 2018, 06:33:12 pm »
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Thanks to Benís advice, I have now fitted the light bars and got all 9 units coupled together. Very pleased with the results. Thanks to Ben and Mike for organising this model.

have you got a link to the advice?
see Post 2401 above.
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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2417 on: April 24, 2018, 06:35:19 pm »
Just a quick question - I ordered the Virgin Hero 11 car set (Poppylino), the British Royal Legion logos that appear on the side and the Poppy motif that is on the front of the unit is only on one power car - is this correct or should both power cars have the logos on them? I thought they should have the logos on both cars - and checking some photos previously in the thread I think the logos should be on both power cars?

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The logos on mine are on both driving cars.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2418 on: April 24, 2018, 06:40:35 pm »
Hi

The logos on mine are on both driving cars.

Cheers

Paul

OK thank you, I will ping an email to the address in the instructions with some photos. At least I can still admire the units! :)

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2419 on: April 25, 2018, 07:37:05 pm »
What is the latest on delivery? My order still shows as processing . . .

You are not alone, mine is still showing processing, it has been paid for so hopefully nothing to hold it up now especially all those who have paid without queries are expected to be despatched shortly.
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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2420 on: April 25, 2018, 08:54:28 pm »
My pair arrived today. Stunning. Look forward to trying them out!

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2421 on: April 25, 2018, 09:37:38 pm »
What is the latest on delivery? My order still shows as processing . . .

You are not alone, mine is still showing processing, it has been paid for so hopefully nothing to hold it up now especially all those who have paid without queries are expected to be despatched shortly.

Me also. I was only able to commit at the city of Birmingham offer (student life wasn't kind to an otherwise supportive person!) however the bank holiday weekend will be a great time to run them in!

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2422 on: April 25, 2018, 11:04:50 pm »
Just picked mine up today, it is a thing of beauty, really pleased with it and can't wait to get it running.

Just a quick question - I ordered the Virgin Hero 11 car set (Poppylino), the British Royal Legion logos that appear on the side and the Poppy motif that is on the front of the unit is only on one power car - is this correct or should both power cars have the logos on them?

Hi NewbieN,

Apologies, only just seen this.  Yes, there should be logos on both power cars.  Which car is it that's missing the logos?  A or K?  And what is the unit number on the side... It may be you have the wrong power car in your set, rather than the right power car without logos....

Either way, we will sort you out once all the models have been sent out.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2423 on: April 25, 2018, 11:39:55 pm »
Received mine today and it reinforced my buyers remorse that I didn't order 2 at least. At least I have ordered enough class B tankers - OR HAVE I?

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2424 on: April 26, 2018, 09:46:27 am »
Hi

Iíve read the values from both power cars today and found that there are a couple of differences. I donít fully understand the meaning of these values so Iím posting here for someone who does to comment.

Power car            A.              K
Ref voltage        93.             92.            Cv53
K.                      13.             60.            Cv54

All the others are the same with the exception of CV29 which has Railcom turned off on car A and on on car K. This might make sense as the two power cars have the same DCC address.

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« Last Edit: April 26, 2018, 09:49:12 am by PaulCheffus »

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2425 on: April 26, 2018, 09:55:48 am »
These values are to do with Back EMF and the ESU chips can program this themselves as i understand it.  this allows the chip to adapt to the characteristics of the motor and gear train.

In the Penolino manual it refers to setting this up in the slow speed running

Here is the chip instructions sheet  http://www.southwestdigital.co.uk/PDF/LokSound/524xx_LokSound_V35_ESUKG_US_Betriebsanleitung_Auflage_IV_ebook.pdf


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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2426 on: April 26, 2018, 09:59:28 am »
Hi

Could this explain the difference between the movement of the two power cars?

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2427 on: April 26, 2018, 10:08:08 am »
Yes, and once the two units are thoroughly run in the "learning" process should be repeated.

Back EMF is a measure of the "struggle" of the motor and as the model frees up it will change and noticeably.  However I would suggest a considerable amount of running first for best effects.

General running wont be changed much but slow speed running will improve.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2428 on: April 26, 2018, 10:11:40 am »
Is it only ESU chips that learn or all of them?

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2429 on: April 26, 2018, 10:13:42 am »
Is it only ESU chips that learn or all of them?

Its a feature of ESU chips

 

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