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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2235 on: April 02, 2018, 12:55:35 pm »
Good to meet Ben and Gareth from Rapido at York yesterday when I collected my 2, 9 car sets. I have not had chance to even open the boxes yet but will get round to it during the week ahead.
   I had emailed Gareth a couple of times and it was nice to put a face to an email.
   This is the only way we would ever have had such a long train made and it is a triumph for all concerned. Ben,Mike, Gareth and Jason from Rapido, the Chinese manufacturers and of course all who put their money in in the first place.
   So well done Ben and Mike who had the initial vision and thankyou !

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2236 on: April 02, 2018, 01:16:48 pm »
No. Newportnobby it will now be double the price as Ben has checked it and will sign it which will make it really exclusive.
Bob Tidbury
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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2238 on: April 03, 2018, 08:35:23 pm »
It will be interesting to see how much these DC versions go for, i haven't seen any DCC sound go up yet, what sort of premium would that be?
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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2239 on: April 03, 2018, 09:49:25 pm »
Now I've had a bit of time, I've gone over and photographed the problems my sets have.

May I strongly iterate here that I'm not posting these to get at RevolutioN or Rapido, no slanging match, no bashing thread, or suchlike, so I won't be drawn into such. Ben has already been quick to say he'll look into these, for which I'm grateful - though I do want to get the points raised early as I presume there's limited spares.

I am posting these so that others can be aware, and know what to check for on their own sets.

City of London cosmetic issues:

Scratched window on car E:



Paint defect on car D roof:



Poppy pendolino power car with low nose fairing:


I've removed the lid on this car and I'm sorry to report that the problem is fundamental as the chassis end is bent downwards just forward of the front bogie. Maybe this could be bent back, but I'm not going to risk it currently. There is absolutely no damage to any of the plastic components, so I doubt this is a shipping issue (it would have needed one hell of a knock to bend that in a foam lined box), it may have been assembled unawares with a bent casting:



Penny glue mark on roof:



I reckon this may actually come off with some care and solvent, but I'm not doing anything to it at present without Ben's approval.

Unfortunately I found one further issue on the one set I thought was clear - City of Birmingham is missing an underframe end piece. I've been all over the floor to see if it pinged off but I'm pretty sure it hasn't:



I can probably just switch one in from one of the other cars if one or more of them has to ultimately be replaced to save hassle.

Cheers,
Alan
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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2240 on: April 03, 2018, 10:01:21 pm »
Dr Al, why don't you apply for a job with Dapol, they could really do with your help  :D

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2241 on: April 03, 2018, 10:03:41 pm »
Dr Al, why don't you apply for a job with Dapol, they could really do with your help  :D

Depends what salary they'd offer  ;)  ;)

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Alan
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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2242 on: April 04, 2018, 12:04:00 am »

Hi Alan,

Thanks for the heads up on your issues.  At the moment we are focussed on sending models out as quickly as we can and we don't have any spares as it seems the factory sent them to Canada by mistake.

Once we get the spares we will sort out yours and Lindi's models.

Cheers

Ben A.



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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2243 on: April 04, 2018, 12:10:49 am »

Hi Alan,

Thanks for the heads up on your issues.  At the moment we are focussed on sending models out as quickly as we can and we don't have any spares as it seems the factory sent them to Canada by mistake.

Once we get the spares we will sort out yours and Lindi's models.

Cheers

Ben A.

No worries, thanks for the information.

Any more from Rapido on the light-bar screws perchance?

Cheers,
Alan
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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2244 on: April 04, 2018, 07:45:17 am »
Any more from Rapido on the light-bar screws perchance?

Cheers,
Alan

Hi Alan (and others)

Yes - thanks for asking.  I should have mentioned this.

At the weekend Rapido contacted the factory who immediately acknowledged the error and are sending screws straightaway.

These are bagged in sets of 3, 7 and 9 pairs suitable for 5-car, 9-car and 11-car models. 

We should receive them soon and will pack them with remaining models as they go out and figure out the best way of supplying them to those who've already got their Pendolinos.

Cheers

Ben A.



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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2245 on: April 04, 2018, 09:59:35 am »
Are there any photos of the pendo with light bars fitted and on?

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2246 on: April 04, 2018, 12:28:11 pm »
When I made post #1 on this thread back in August 2014 I was full of hope that something would materialise. Back from holiday I now have City of Birmingham, Virgin Ambassador and City of London in my possession. City of London is being kept for eventual resale. Meantime two 11 car sets have been assembled and run in, and have been circulating whiLst I look on in awe. Notch 7 on my Morley controller gives me a scale 125mph and both sets run at almost exactly the same speed. City of Birmingham is 0.3% faster measured over 20 laps of my folded figure of eight. These models are every bit as good as i expected. Congratulations to everyone involved from conception to delivery of my baby pendos.

An operator error led to trying to park one set in a siding already occupied by a 16 car Eurostar. This does not end well. Even the low speed collision derailed all 88 wheels of the Pendolino part of which was on a radius 2 180 degree turn, and shorted out the power. I took the train to pieces and reassembled it on the straight track at the front of the layout. After starting to wrestle with the 6 foot snake I realised on the straight was the only way to put the train back together again. The signalman and the driver have both been disciplined for the collision.

Back to playing.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2247 on: April 04, 2018, 01:10:18 pm »
How well does the mechanism on these perform? As they're the first UK outline N Gauge models Rapido have produced it would be interesting to know as the class 92 should be similar.

Steven B.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2248 on: April 04, 2018, 01:13:04 pm »
How well does the mechanism on these perform? As they're the first UK outline N Gauge models Rapido have produced it would be interesting to know as the class 92 should be similar.

Steven B.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2249 on: April 04, 2018, 01:38:27 pm »
How well does the mechanism on these perform? As they're the first UK outline N Gauge models Rapido have produced it would be interesting to know as the class 92 should be similar.

Steven B.

Hello Steven,

My judgement is that they are smooth and powerful, but they definitely need running in.

I noticed that when first run our display models were a bit noisy, however the model running all weekend at York (which had also run continuously over the three days of Model Rail Scotland) was not only very smooth but also exceptionally quiet.

However, while the motor in the 92 is the same the rest of the drivetrain is different, as it has Co-Co bogies, different (slower) gearing and a different PCB and lighting arrangement, so I am not sure how indicative this is.

We should have a "final" running sample of the 92 in a month or so, at which point we will be ready to close the order book and prepare for production.

Cheers

Ben A.



 

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