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Author Topic: Union Mills Dukedog  (Read 6551 times)

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Re: Union Mills Dukedog
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2017, 12:07:56 pm »
I managed to pick up one nearly new for a mere 70 - really a rather pleasing deal.

I have to say that this is probably one of the best UM models yet - the new motor is substantially better, allowing proper sleeper creep - almost as good as a Mashima conversion though not quite. But really lovely still.

I'd love to know the source of these motors, as they may well have other viable uses.

I have done the usual adjustments of painting the buffer heads and wheel rims black, and reducing the wheel drop by packing under the centre tender axle, which has too much vertical play for my liking. I also added a washer under the front of the tender where the front fixing screw is, as the tender seemed to be sitting a little front low compared to the rear - not sure if anyone else's is like this?

Cheers,
Alan

My ones came with washers but probably lost by your first owner. Easily done as they are very small.

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Re: Union Mills Dukedog
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2017, 12:10:17 pm »
My ones came with washers but probably lost by your first owner. Easily done as they are very small.

It had one washer bonded to the tender body - I added a second.

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Alan
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Re: Union Mills Dukedog
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2017, 12:12:30 pm »
My ones came with washers but probably lost by your first owner. Easily done as they are very small.

It had one washer bonded to the tender body - I added a second.

Cheers,
Alan

Yes that sounds correct.

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Re: Union Mills Dukedog
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2018, 03:58:44 pm »
Just thought folks might like to see what can be done with the dukedog. This loco is not mine and the work was done by NGF member Mr Greatbatch.
I think he has done a terrific job on this.





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Re: Union Mills Dukedog
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2018, 07:07:06 pm »
Just thought folks might like to see what can be done with the dukedog. This loco is not mine and the work was done by NGF member Mr Greatbatch.
I think he has done a terrific job on this.

Lovely work there by Mr Greatbatch! The separately fitted handrails are one thing but to see all those lovely rivets on the outside frames is something to behold. Your model as been lifted into a completely different class with those upgrades!  8)

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Re: Union Mills Dukedog
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2018, 07:09:40 pm »
A lovely looking loco and a great job.   :thumbsup:

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Re: Union Mills Dukedog
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2018, 11:14:51 pm »
Thank you gentlemen,of course it's all Nick Tillstons fault, he taught me everthing I know,and still does

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Re: Union Mills Dukedog
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2018, 09:08:49 am »
That's a cracking looking Dukedog. Just a suggestion as I've done it on all my UM locos is to shorten the wire between tender and loco. UM always leave a big loop but you just need to take approx a cm off the end and poke the shortened wire back in the hole. It makes the crews job less hazardous ;)

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Re: Union Mills Dukedog
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2018, 09:34:47 am »
On my own loco's I usually replace it with much finer ,more pliable and shorter wire,much like  Minitrix tender engines, as this loco was for a freind,he is capable of   doing his own electrics.

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Re: Union Mills Dukedog
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2018, 03:31:34 pm »
On my own locos I usually replace it with much finer, more pliable and shorter wire, much like Minitrix tender engines. As this loco was for a friend, he is capable of  doing his own electrics.

I had a 'friend' who replaced the thick wire on my LSWR Class 700 0-6-0 and it's never worked properly since. I put the original wire back so that it's almost back to normal, but I have a feeling that I'll have to swap out the motor for a replacement to get it perfect.

Now I just do what Gareth does - snip a chunk off the original wire and tuck the remnants under the fall plate I add inside the cab.

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Re: Union Mills Dukedog
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2018, 01:21:21 pm »
can someone explain to me how that front coupling works? i run engines both forward and tender first being a heritage line, so im curious as to how that couples up and uncouples to stock? can it be chopped off and changed for a nem pocket?
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Re: Union Mills Dukedog
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2018, 01:24:59 pm »
It just hooks under a standard Rapido - simple.

Not enough space for a bulky NEM mount - the front axle of the bogie is too close to allow space for even a sprung coupling box.

Cheers,
Alan
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Re: Union Mills Dukedog
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2018, 02:45:50 pm »
It just hooks under a standard Rapido - simple.

Not enough space for a bulky NEM mount - the front axle of the bogie is too close to allow space for even a sprung coupling box.

Cheers,
Alan


Further to Alan's helpful reply, I wondered if you might like to see a couple of photographs...





Please excuse me for cheating by derailing the '2P's bogie in order to make the coupling more visible.

Finally, here they are after uncoupling:


It's only the Union Mills bogie locomotives that have the coupling hook at the front.  The 0-6-0 and 0-8-0 classes have Rapido couplings at the front and rear.

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