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Offline portland-docks

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2015, 06:27:12 am »
Good enough for me ;)
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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2015, 07:41:03 am »
My brother has worked on unrebuilt BoBs & WCs and has said that the chain drive actually works really well. 

The problem with them was the oil bath seals and some of the parts within but with modern engineering techniques not available to Bullied and carefully caulked seals then they are pretty reliable..

Tbh I thnk the MNs look better with the casing off..
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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2015, 10:03:57 am »
I like the Bulleid Pacifics in original "Spam Can" form. After rebuilding they ended up looking rather like the BR Standards. Smart enough but rather anonymous. The originals were so striking they could never be mistaken for anything else.
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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2015, 04:13:43 pm »
I bounced this old post as it has the appropriate title for my comment.
I was considering a pre-order for an early BR version of the air-smoothed version of the Bulleid Light Pacific and found that only 34030 and 34066 are being produced by Dapol and both are stated to have the late BR crest so there's a huge period gap between the Southern malachite green liveried models (up to 1948 with SR nos. and SOUTHERN on the tender) and the late BR crest which started being used in 1957.
Are the Dapol livery choices fixed in stone?
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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2015, 05:08:01 pm »
the livery choices seen are what they would like to do, but until the first painted prototype comes out anything can change.

best bet is contact joel at dapol and ask if they will add or change one of the liveries to your era
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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2015, 08:44:19 am »
I believe things are not set in stone. IIRC one of the Granges was changed from the original announcement when it was found that the one they were planning to model ran with a tender variant that Dapol do not make.

I contacted Dapol last year and suggested that an Early Crest model would probably be popular. They thanked me for the suggestion but made no commitment so I guess we will have to wait and see what transpires.

If anyone else feels like contacting Dapol with this suggestion then go ahead. The more input they get, the better the chances that they will feel there is enough interest to justify a model.
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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2015, 09:53:19 pm »
The Class N changed relatively late too, from a late slope-sided tender version to the earlier (and more widely used) straight tender version.

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2015, 04:04:54 pm »
Hi

I notice that on Dapol's Facebook page in response to a question about when to expect these loco's that it was likely to be end 2016, because, and this is a news to me, it will use a new loco-mounted motor and new gear train and this was delaying things.

Does anyone know anything about this new mechanism?

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2015, 04:07:19 pm »
That is news to me! Hopefully we will get to look at the prototype up close so if i do i will let you all know!
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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2015, 04:15:07 pm »
News to me as well but very welcome. Dapol's tender drive is better than farish's IMO as it avoids the problem of locking valve gear. But loco drive is definitely superior and with Farish now switching to coreless motors mounted in the loco, I think it is a smart move of Dapol to upgrade their technology to match. The Bulleid Pacifics offer plenty of space for gears and motors, particularly the air-smoothed versions.

I was hoping to see the light pacifics a bit sooner but at the end of the day, it is only a hobby. I will just have to find something else to spend my money on in the meantime.  :pint:
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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2015, 06:15:40 pm »
I have to say, I do fancy a rebuilt example, but with DJM's Class 17s, RevolutioN's Pendolino, potentially their Class 21s (hope against hope it gets the go ahead) and the latest batch of Farish maroon Mk1s, all on the financial radar,  late 2016 suits me just fine!!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2015, 06:45:27 pm »
ooh a big shift from Dapol, and explains the delay, a little  :uneasy: as it will be the first tender engine to appear with this drive function by Dapol so I hope they get this right as its massive release for them. More important these are top of my list of most wanted locos list.

Still happy days its progressing  :claphappy:

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2015, 11:25:58 pm »
Announced by Andy and Richard at today's Dapol Open day.

The Bulleid will be the first of the next generation steam locos with coreless motor in the loco, and will be arranged so it can be DCC Sound fitted easily, though it was NOT said if there will be a DCC Sound version available factory-fitted.

There is work going on testing the mechanism to destruction to factor in improvements before tooling up.

They were hoping to get at least to decorated samples by next year's Open Day, but getting this right will take time as it is a generation shift in Dapol steamers.

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2015, 05:49:07 am »
I'm very pleased to hear about the change to a loco mounted motor, also that they are taking their time to get things right.  I'll be looking forward to these new locos, I just hope I can afford them when they eventually arrive.

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2016, 12:49:50 pm »
Just had an update via Hattons that these are due in November/December 2016.

Doesn't quite beat the Ivatt 2-6-0 from farish in terms of development time but it is getting close.
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