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Author Topic: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout  (Read 33793 times)

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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2013, 01:28:38 pm »
A really interesting layout you have planned there moogle  :thumbsup:

Nice work with the trams and the seating, afew ambient seaside sounds and your pac-a-mac and your ready  :D

cheers John.


 :thankyousign: Ambient sounds...  :hmmm:  Now there's an idea...

Pac-a-mac? Thats a bit modern for this layout! Plus fours and a mackintosh maybe...  ;)

But you must on no account forget the seagulls or herring gulls or whatever they officially are.
You could have some sitting, some sh.........oh well you get the drift  :D



I get the drift. What are they officially? A bleeding menace!  :smiley-laughing:

Got a lot of the tramway surfacing done and point motors clipped in.



As you can see, I'm reusing old buildings from previous layouts.
Whilst doing the surfacing I found that the position of the depot needed moving forward to give enough clearance on the main loop.



This has had an added benefit of allowing for a slightly bigger and less cramped depot.
The photo below clearly shows the gap left using the street paving kits on the points.



It also allows me to have inspection/maintenance pits inside. They need cutting out still.
(Its where you can see the sleepers in the pic below)



The tramway shed is going to be big but not enough to dominate the layout!



It still needs raising up in height obviously and will need to be lengthened, (to where the pencil is) sides, ends and doors added.
Started life as a Dapol (Ex Airfix) OO scale platform canopy. That bigger scale does have some uses!  :smiley-laughing:
You may also have noticed the shorter red tram in the above photos.
Its a Typhoo Tea one cut up and glued onto a heavily adapted Kato 4 wheeled motor chassis.
Needs the gaps filling in obviously!  :laugh:



More old buildings. Yes, I'm having a small brewery here, hence the chimney.
This view shows how I'd like the 'S' bend to look. Trams running between the buildings!
Incidentally it also shows where the tramway won't be embedded in the road, mainly along the back and behind the depot.

I've decided a park entrance will be in the corner opposite the depot.



There will be a fountain, paths, flower beds and of course some nice fancy park gates!



More recycled buildings. I'll be adapting them as needed.



And I just had to reuse my as yet unfinished town hall.
It will sit back a bit from the road so that there is a nice open area in front for the townsfolk.
And the Police arresting the Suffragette protesters I plan to make!  :D
Its an ex Kato Japanese bank building in case you're wondering...

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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2013, 03:10:05 pm »
Magnificent. Coming on a treat
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2013, 03:48:22 pm »
Been starting on the section breaks.
(Apologies for the poor pics. Taken on mobile as cameras charging)

To remove the rail joiner on the end of the Tomix track:



You need to put something like a small screwdriver blade in the round hole under the plastic clip:



Like thus:



Lever it back and forth and the rail joiner should loosen and come off:



I've done this to both pieces though only doing it to one will give a stronger join.



I'm going to glue mine as I wire and fix it into position.
I can insert a shim of plastic between the rails while the glue sets as I dont trust just using the clips for the join.
Just a personal preference. More to follow later as things progress.  :wave:

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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2013, 06:17:13 pm »
Tomix sell little boxes of insulated fishplates btw
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2013, 07:33:51 pm »
Hello Moogle,
Another treat for us, your new layout. Thanks for sharing.
Kind regards
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2013, 10:49:30 pm »
Tomix sell little boxes of insulated fishplates btw


I know but I have nothing else to order (that I can afford) at the moment so the postage would be too much.
I'll make do with the method I'm trying. Thanks anyway.

Had a break this evening from wiring and filling in track.
Been making cast iron pier supports.
Not out of iron though but out of old gel pens.
About 8 years ago a place I worked at used gel pens, not biros.
The used ones were discarded into the bin usually but I looked at some one day and though they'd be useful so collected a few.
They've sat in my 'bits box' since then!
So, finally found a use for them.  :smiley-laughing:

I cut the main part of the barrel in half and inserted half of the inner tube (what the ink was in) back in.
This gives me a peg to plant it in place with and being hollow somewhere to run wires up for lighting if I so wish.
I had eight pens and needed 16 supports -  result!
I'll take some pics tomorrow when I start installing them to make all that clearer!

Basing my pier supports and other parts on the pier from my hometown:

http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/P-Poca_080609/TownPier_080609-0118_b.jpg

Only whats below deck though, above deck on mine will be completely different.
Currently marking out a card template for the arches and other beams so they will all be the same size.
Pics will follow when I've started making them.  :camera:
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2013, 01:52:34 pm »
Some pics as promised:

The pier legs



As you can see, ones apart still showing the 'inner tube' as it were.
I wont be adding lighting but I am thinking of a rotating weathervane on the pier head building.



The pierhead. I had to drill holes in the framework for the three nearest the camera.
Not easy then there's screws in the way!  :laugh:
The pier legs come level with the lands edge but the ground needs raising to bury the track in so there will just be a slight slope or steps onto the pier.



Another view of the pierhead end. I'm leaning more towards a building people walk around or go into.



This is the master original of the cast iron arch and girder I want several of.
Made from obechi, card and model filler!
Gonna make a temporary mould from some reusable instant moulding compound I have.

http://www.metalclay.co.uk/oyumaru-instant-mold-moulding-compound/

Never tried it like this. Will be casting them in resin plaster which is strong and light.
Its also what I have at hand as I have no resin at the moment!  :laugh3:

The master will need a bit of tidying up prior to this and I'll post pics when the casting gets going.
Stay tuned folks...  8)

 
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2013, 10:48:51 pm »
Just had a look at this for the first time - great stuff! Certainly different! I'm a great fan of ambient sounds too - but I always make mine so you can switch 'em on or off, 'cos they can eventually get on your nerves.

I will be following this. Good one!  :thumbsup:

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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2013, 11:49:37 pm »
 :thankyousign: I know what you mean. The sounds will be on my ipod.
Its one of those tiny clip on ones and thankfully has a pause button and off switch!  :laugh:
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2013, 09:57:58 am »
A great bit of modelling going on there Moogle...... :thumbsup:
And you have found a great use for those old pens.......even if it has taken 8 years..... :) :thumbsup:

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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2013, 10:20:03 am »
I've just spotted your thread Moogle: I like N gauge tramways and yours is coming along nicely - especially with the pier being such a prominent feature, it will really set the scene.

How did you make your tram?
I like the idea of the suffragettes protesting outside the town hall - any ideas on how you'll adapt N gauge figures for long skirts and big hats?

The ambient sound could be interesting - I was thinking perhaps you should include the sound of a brass band playing, after all, if you are modelling an Edwardian-era park, I'm sure there would have been a bandstand too :)


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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2013, 02:49:16 pm »
I like the idea of the suffragettes protesting outside the town hall - any ideas on how you'll adapt N gauge figures for long skirts and big hats?

Langley wedding set has a few.

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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2013, 02:03:27 pm »
A great bit of modelling going on there Moogle...... :thumbsup:
And you have found a great use for those old pens.......even if it has taken 8 years..... :) :thumbsup:


I've just spotted your thread Moogle: I like N gauge tramways and yours is coming along nicely - especially with the pier being such a prominent feature, it will really set the scene.

How did you make your tram?
I like the idea of the suffragettes protesting outside the town hall - any ideas on how you'll adapt N gauge figures for long skirts and big hats?

The ambient sound could be interesting - I was thinking perhaps you should include the sound of a brass band playing, after all, if you are modelling an Edwardian-era park, I'm sure there would have been a bandstand too :)


 :thankyousign:

Trams are Typhoo Tea Trams grafted onto Kato chassis as mentioned in a previous post.

Long skirts are easy. Just use Milliput or model filler to lengthen them.
For big hats you need a hole punch, thin plastic sheet and a round file.
Punch out some plastic circles. Make a hole in the circle centre with the file.
Place on head. Add blob of glue, file top flat if needed when dry and paint.
Presier brides and model power steam era passengers are good for that - just add hats and repaint!
Langley wedding sets as EP says are good too. As are their funeral sets for gents.
O.k, you end up with a lot of priests but they could always populate your carriages!

No room for a bandstand in the park though, nice as it would be as I'm only modelling one entrance.

Made a start on the pier castings. Still not sure if it'll work in resin plaster but I'll give it a go!



Need filling/cleaning up. Started on some.
Castings broke as the mould wasn't very flexible. Good ol' superglue to the rescue!


There's ten arches for the main length of the pier.
The pierhead I'm gonna use a different style so it looks like a later addition.



The cross members for between the arches.



So still work to do,  :camera: will follow as always!  :wave:
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2013, 02:52:14 pm »
It's coming on a treat. Looking forward to seeing the finished layout.
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2013, 08:24:06 pm »
It's coming on a treat. Looking forward to seeing the finished layout.


 :thankyousign: though it'll be a while yet before its finished!

Bit more pier work been going on.



Started at the seaward end and worked towards the shore.
Good job too as I had to reposition some of the pier legs.



The end that reaches the shore slopes downward slightly where I had to adapt things.
I'm not fussed by this as it means there's a slight slope onto the pier (which some had) giving it character.
Still gaps to fill, beams to add etc but I'm pretty chuffed with how its looking so far!  8)
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