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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2017, 12:51:46 pm »
12 months later, the laptop still boots in 45 seconds and works perfectly. Oh yes, and I never use MS web browser, Firefox is more stable.

I've taken all the updates that Microsoft have provided for Windows 10. Disabled Cortana on the first release and it has never appeared again. Microsoft Edge browser is now very stable, can't remember the last time it failed.

I'm using a 6.5 year old desktop PC (only change since then was for a new graphics card as the other started smoking) and it boots up in 40 seconds

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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2017, 01:12:27 pm »
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Linux and iOS is fine for the more technically minded,
Not at all,put in dvd and boot from it,answer a couple of questions,make a coffee and come back to fully functional operating system that will do what most home users want a computer to do
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but a lot of add on proprietary software won't be suitable for Linux
Apart from games ,i bought an xbox for that as it was cheaper than upgrading the old computer ,theres often a linux alternative,and  most  other  software plays nicely in virtual box or under wine.
 About the only decent thing micro$oft has made over the years was the   original intellimouse track ball 

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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2017, 01:35:30 pm »
Many of the common programs that are used, such as Office (particularly Word and Excel and Outlook); Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop; The better known finance packages; anyrail and many others do not run on Linux. Unless you run them under Wine which is just another bit of hassle for users and defeats the object of running Linux.
Ok there are other similar products that will run in Linux but they are not Microsoft compatible products and are therefore not the programs of choice for most people.
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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2017, 01:50:19 pm »
My laptop runs Vista  (yes, Vista! Never had an issue with it ), but Firefox informs me that of September this year, it will no longer support Vista.

Ah well, like so many other things in life, I'll worry about it when it happens.   :worried:
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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2017, 02:00:23 pm »
My laptop runs Vista  (yes, Vista! Never had an issue with it ), but Firefox informs me that of September this year, it will no longer support Vista.

Ah well, like so many other things in life, I'll worry about it when it happens.   :worried:
I've got the same problem with my wife's old desktop (or is that my old wife's desktop :hmmm:   ).
It won't support Explorer, Chrome and soon Firefox. In addition, Vista support is about to end.
The hardware is too old to run anything newer.
What it is to get old ....  Talking about computers, not me of course!!
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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2017, 02:13:20 pm »
 :laughabovepost:

Yeah, nobody seems to have heard of the old saying "if it works, don't fix it" anymore.  :beers:
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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2017, 02:16:51 pm »
so Microcrap users have a much better choice of derogatory nomenclature.
:jealous:

Microcrap? Really? How is that funny?! What am I missing?

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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2017, 02:30:45 pm »
so Microcrap users have a much better choice of derogatory nomenclature.
:jealous:

Microcrap? Really? How is that funny?! What am I missing?

How is it not funny?

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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2017, 02:32:02 pm »
so Microcrap users have a much better choice of derogatory nomenclature.
:jealous:

Microcrap? Really? How is that funny?! What am I missing?

A sense of humour?

Seriously, please stop trying to enforce your own grammatical preferences on others, it's getting very tiring.

If people want to call it Microsloth, Microcrap, or anything else that doesn't fall fowl of the forum rules then they're quite at liberty to do so.


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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2017, 02:33:33 pm »
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Many of the common programs that are used, such as Office (particularly Word and Excel and Outlook);.
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Ok there are other similar products that will run in Linux but they are not Microsoft compatible products
Rubbish,most linux distros come with libre office already installed, legally free of charge ,and  the files they  produce are compatible with most flavours of micro$oft office packages,unlike some versions of office which cant deal with file formats produced by a different version of there same software.Gimp is as good as photoshop,and a dam sight cheaper,lightroom,no idea but id bet money theres more than 1 decent free program out there.


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Unless you run them under Wine which is just another bit of hassle
Hassle? once wines  installed any compatable doze software works  like any other piece of software,click on it and it runs,no hassle wot so ever

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The hardware is too old to run anything newer.
whats the hardware spec? my 9 year old ex vista machine  runs win 10 without any problems,or of course you could get the penguin on there.
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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2017, 02:36:14 pm »
so Microcrap users have a much better choice of derogatory nomenclature.
:jealous:

Microcrap? Really? How is that funny?! What am I missing?

 :hmmm:

It's so much funnier now. Thanks for your viewpoint.
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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2017, 02:49:30 pm »
You prefer Linux - thats fine I respect your choice. I and 99 percent of computer users prefer Microsoft because it has world wide acceptance as have many of the standard programs that run on it. I have tried a number of versions of Linux and the Office clones and photo editors and find them unsatisfactory in many ways.
I have noted your opinions on Linux but I'll stick with Windows thanks.
Let's just agree to differ.
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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2017, 04:11:49 pm »
I tried Linux some years ago, but didn't stick with it after it classed my new OKI colour laser as being only good for a paper weight. It also would not run the photo editor I've been using since 1991 (updated to 2003 when Corel bought it and buried it having taken what bits they wanted) looked at Gimp, didn't fancy a new learning curve; it does all I need, not broke so why fix OK so I have to run it in XP mode but it runs.
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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2017, 04:29:41 pm »
I tried Linux some years ago, but didn't stick with it after it classed my new OKI colour laser as being only good for a paper weight. It also would not run the photo editor I've been using since 1991 (updated to 2003 when Corel bought it and buried it having taken what bits they wanted) looked at Gimp, didn't fancy a new learning curve; it does all I need, not broke so why fix OK so I have to run it in XP mode but it runs.
You must be talking Corel Paintshop Pro (now up to version X9) note the X !!
I used to use older versions of that all the time and it was pretty much as good as Photoshop all those years ago. Gave up with Paintshop Pro a few years back and now occasionally use Photoshop Elements and mostly LightRoom. I've found that images from good modern digital cameras don't need a lot of editing (unless you want the piccies of your misses to look like a nubile teenager) and Lightroom suits me down to the ground.
Tried Gimp but - so difficult to get your head round it. It has its fans though and I've seen brilliant results from people who no how to use it.
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Re: Microsloth again
« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2017, 04:49:46 pm »
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after it classed my new OKI colour laser as being only good for a paper weight
Things like this were very common a few years back,mainly down to manufactures making there devices windows only compatible to save a few quid,thankfully those days are almost gone,although the intel/micro$oft cartel  still seem to be  trying there damndest to make life awkward for those who dont want to to run the latest version of doze on the latest hardware.

 

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