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Title: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 10, 2016, 11:04:58 am
Welcome to Southgrove!

This is a continuation and development of my topic "Expanding Unitrack by home-made modules/sections" http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=16430.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=16430.0)
It also incorporates some models, concepts and names from "Fisherlea" http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=16210.msg161218#msg161218 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=16210.msg161218#msg161218)

The layout name is a combination of two areas of Portsmouth where I attended school, yet remaining somewhat generic.

Unlike my previous efforts, it's fully modular based on Kato Unitrack and DioTown geometry and subject to change depending on the amount of room available.

Southgrove was designated as a new town with the full range of commerce, housing and leisure services, with station and integrated bus links.
The railway will be seen as just one part of its overall development. Its streets, shops and other buildings will be named after former fellow schoolmates.

For starters, here's Priory FC:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/2573-290816083528.jpeg)

This still awaits fencing, turnstiles, goalposts and other football ground fittings.

And here's Goodhill Athletics Club's running track:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/2573-290816083630.jpeg)

The clubhouse has yet to be built with associated parking and there'll be provision for field events.

Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Jerry Howlett on September 10, 2016, 11:51:31 am
Hate football, however love your Footy ground.  More info how or where from ?  I have a large area on my layout that needs something of that size to hide some low level tracks.
I believe one of the Japanese "little people" makers do soccer teams in N as well.

Jerry
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Tank on September 10, 2016, 12:22:49 pm
They look great.  Are you adding 80,000 people?!  LOL
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 10, 2016, 04:57:12 pm
Hate football, however love your Footy ground.  More info how or where from ?  I have a large area on my layout that needs something of that size to hide some low level tracks.
I believe one of the Japanese "little people" makers do soccer teams in N as well.

Jerry

Everything's scratchbuilt ...
the stands made from mounting board, club's office and changing rooms are based around a surplus clear Ibertren plastic storage box, toilet blocks scratchbuilt from styrene and Metcalfe Models  brickwork, pitch is cut-up Gaugemaster/Noch grass matting ...
all on a 3mm thick styrene base 770 x 496 mm.

Tomytec produces football players, but I haven't bought any - after all most of the time in reality, the ground is unused and locked up!

BTW Tomytec produces the athletics track as well which I had to specially import from Japan.

Tank - I put this thread in Layout Planning in error, can you please move this to Layout Construction, thanks?
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Pengi on September 10, 2016, 06:32:45 pm
This looks great   :thumbsup: - is that a claret and blue colour scheme for the ground? I have wanted a football ground on my layout but not enough space - a shame as there is a railway line that goes past my football team's ground. Need to have a look at the Tomytec footballers but they may be hard to repaint in stripes  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 10, 2016, 06:39:27 pm
Pengi,

It's claret and blue - my old secondary school PE kit colours!
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Greybeema on September 11, 2016, 07:48:12 am
Hate football, however love your Footy ground.  More info how or where from ?  I have a large area on my layout that needs something of that size to hide some low level tracks.
I believe one of the Japanese "little people" makers do soccer teams in N as well.

Jerry

Something like Lansdowne Road where the Stadium approach for the West Stand goes over the railway?
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 11, 2016, 08:13:36 am
See Wikipedia entry for Lansdowne Road

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lansdowne_Road

One of their images shows some of the concrete framework for the stadium stand over the railway.


Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Jerry Howlett on September 11, 2016, 08:29:49 am
This looks great   :thumbsup: - is that a claret and blue colour scheme for the ground? I have wanted a football ground on my layout but not enough space - a shame as there is a railway line that goes past my football team's ground. Need to have a look at the Tomytec footballers but they may be hard to repaint in stripes  :goggleeyes:

Pengi,
I was looking at I think "hobbysearch" Japan and they do unpainted footballers !!.  I think Noch may do some as well.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Greybeema on September 11, 2016, 09:21:02 am
See Wikipedia entry for Lansdowne Road

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lansdowne_Road

One of their images shows some of the concrete framework for the stadium stand over the railway.

Wiki is a bit behind the times there.  We have a swank you new Lansdowne Road now..  Unfortunately it doesn't show the Dart running under the Stadium Approach..  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviva_Stadium..
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 16, 2016, 10:34:27 pm
Southgrove will represent BR (Southern Region) post-1974, sectorisation and privatisation.
For now, I'll be running DMUs with the odd freight service for variety.

As everything has to be put away after each session, I'm preferring stock that I can easily place on the track, has a high degree of standardisation, and is reliable and serviceable day in, day out.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Greybeema on September 16, 2016, 11:17:04 pm
Southgrove will represent BR (Southern Region) post-1974, sectorisation and privatisation.
For now, I'll be running DMUs with the odd freight service for variety.

As everything has to be put away after each session, I'm preferring stock that I can easily place on the track, has a high degree of standardisation, and is reliable and serviceable day in, day out.

Farish 4CEP.  I have two, both great runners..
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 18, 2016, 06:34:17 pm
For the foreseeable future, I'm focusing on building, completing and arranging various street scenes, taking advantage of Kato's Dio Town road sections and geometry.

I found it was possible to arrange two blocks of Kestrel's 1930s semis on a half-piece Dio Town road section (248 x 124 mm)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/2573-180916181509.jpeg)

or two wayside stores (Burge's Café on left, Devine 'N'lightenment lighting store on right) with ample off-street parking and storage

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/2573-180916181643.jpeg)

Former Fisherlea's layout Art Deco office block has been assigned a new role as the Goodhill Athletics and Social Club's HQ.
Athletics track 620 x 248 mm; building with car park will be 620 x 248 mm on dedicated 3mm styrene base

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/2573-180916181938.jpeg)

Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 25, 2016, 10:54:27 am
I've been evaluating future scenarios in case I don't have room to deploy all my available Kato Unitrack and scenic accessories.

These two images show what could be the minimum-sized possible scenarios with the street layout (NB in all cases the double-track Unitrack pieces fit outside the oval)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/2573-250916104111.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/2573-250916104024.jpeg)

The original Dio Town sections are beige/grey in contrast with my home-made black/white pieces.

There's at least a strong case for individual (and groups of buildings) to be mounted on 1 or 1.5mm thick styrene sub-bases a la Kato's ready made structures.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 26, 2016, 07:42:42 pm
Up to now, virtually all my layout size evaluation has been done on the living room floor.

Even though I regularly clean the carpet, it's not really the best environment for running trains and I've bought coffee tables from B&M (each approx. 90 cm long x 45 cm wide)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/2573-260916193227.jpeg)

Adding a third coffee table will double the length of the straight sections and lessen the likelihood of trains plunging onto the floor.
These tables are light enough to be transported from the spare room when not required.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 30, 2016, 06:18:40 pm
This is the result with a third identical coffee table added.
The total table top size is now approx. 135 cm x 90 cm. There's more room all round to store unused stock and accessories and less likelihood of models plunging to the floor

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/2573-300916181147.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/2573-300916181055.jpeg)

If I fabricate extra 248 x 124 mm styrene road sections, I could expand the oval by 124mm, length- and width-wise.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 30, 2016, 07:06:46 pm
As a trial, I extended the straight sections by 248mm.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/2573-300916185934.jpeg)

It means the outer circuit overhangs the edges of the joined up tables, unless I separate them out a little.

However the street layout looks much better and I can even consider adding station platforms suitable for a 2-car DMU!
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: newportnobby on September 30, 2016, 09:40:38 pm
Go for it - you know you want to :D
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 30, 2016, 09:43:10 pm
I have the parts in stock   :no:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 01, 2016, 10:33:20 am
 :hellosign: Thanks for the updates, looking good with extension
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on October 06, 2016, 09:14:37 pm
I hasten to add ...
in my year group I knew around 100 ex-junior school pupils and about 300 ex-secondary school pupils - with very few overlaps, not forgetting teachers - I've no shortage of ideas for naming structures, etc. :claphappy:
there'll be quite a few interesting named projects announced on here!
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on October 09, 2016, 06:17:41 pm
I've turned my attention to Southgrove's town centre.
Sometimes I may emphasise the urban scene at the expense of railways.

This is likely to be the town centre's layout, with bus interchange and parallel shopping street, probably separated either by a park ...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/2573-091016180730.jpeg)

or a strip mall, based around surplus clear Dapol and Farish plastic boxes.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/2573-091016180832.jpeg)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on November 21, 2016, 09:14:43 pm
More buildings have been purchased for Southgrove:

Tomix 4020 offices (large white structure on right)
Kato DioTown 23-408B small strip mall (two small units on top of Auhagen box)
Auhagen low-rise block of flats for Anglicisation

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/2573-211116205800.jpeg)

The Kato small strip mall has plenty of opportunities for named shops and services (6 in all)

A week or so ago I visited Leeds' German Christmas market and spotted two temporary bar/restaurant structures, one of which I might fancy modelling to represent an imagined gift from a fictitiously-named German locality twinned with 'Southgrove' ... wonder if any are produced by Faller, Vollmer, etc??

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/2573-201116205138.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/2573-201116205028.jpeg)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on December 25, 2016, 08:59:41 pm
Here's latest progress:

Bought two Lilliput Lane's "Full Steam Ahead" painted stonecast structures of an art deco style cinema and a classroom block of a comprehensive school.

As up to now, Southgrove hasn't had any sidings or fiddle yards, so I'm constructing a pair of 496 x 155 mm styrene modules featuring loops - I haven't decided whether to quadruple the tracks on both modules or keep one side clear for a platform or other structures.

I'm incorporating Fleischmann Piccolo's track and points because they were considered too good to dispose of and their points' track geometries are smaller than Kato's, however they required 2.5mm packing to match the track height of Kato.

Sod's law dictates that you don't have all the parts in stock when you need them so I've had to place an online order for extra Kato track for delivery after Xmas!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/2573-251216205924.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46617)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on December 26, 2016, 09:29:12 pm
I've decided on having a station with goods yard, representing the Southern Region from the rail blue era onwards.

The modules will consist of two 496 x 155 mm sections joined together, rather than one long module that would otherwise be awkward to store.

I'm pretending the SR rebuilt half the ex-LSWR platform with concrete sections and added their Exmouth Junction concrete fencing and a signal box. Most parts have been reused from previous efforts including "Fisherlea".

The platform will take a 4-car Mk1 design EMU, a loco + 3 Mk1s or their modern equivalents.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/2573-261216212748.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46627)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on January 01, 2017, 09:12:33 pm
I'll have running sessions based on which prototypes in my collection were in service, based on five-year sequences, e.g.

those running during 1978, 1988, 1993, 1998, 2003 and 2008

1983 omitted as there was so little variation from 1978 - certainly in the area of the Southern Region (Portsmouth) I'm interested in.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on January 04, 2017, 06:29:57 pm
Work's progressing on my single platform station with yard.

The raised areas are styrene packing to accommodate the difference between Kato and Fleischmann track, some of which I've had specially to cut to fit, and the use of Farish and Peco platform sections.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/2573-040117182855.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46861)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/2573-040117182927.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46862)

The station is split into two 496 x 155 mm sections to make storage easier.


Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Innovationgame on January 06, 2017, 08:08:30 am
I'm watching with interest.  You seem to have a lot of ideas and starting modules.  It all looks as though it will be an extremely versatile layout.  I await developments. :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: weave on January 06, 2017, 04:07:26 pm
Hi,

Great stuff. Looking forward to more of the build, especially so as having Pompey connections and being a fan for 40 odd years.

I don't model UK but there is an EMU in my local model shop (from the 80's era I think) that reminds me of going down to Fratton Park with my late dad. Will buy it one day when funds allow for sentimental reasons (might have been sold as apparently hard to come by).

Third rail EMU in Spain and France. That'll get the anti Rule 1ers a talking!

Keep up the good work.

Cheers weave  :beers:



Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on January 06, 2017, 10:10:27 pm
I've considered a lot more ideas than those already expressed on here ...

Did think about building a *very vague* representation of the former Tricorn centre in Portsmouth, as an example of Brutalist concrete architecture - which is very rarely modelled - but even that would take up too much room!

I can't own too many modules because I won't have enough room to store them, let alone display them on all on one layout.

Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Steamie+ on January 06, 2017, 10:14:31 pm
I've considered a lot more ideas than those already expressed on here ...

Did think about building a *very vague* representation of the former Tricorn centre in Portsmouth, as an example of Brutalist concrete architecture - which is very rarely modelled - but even that would take up too much room!

I can't own too many modules because I won't have enough room to store them, let alone display them on all on one layout.

I love your modules they are brilliant.   :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 07, 2017, 11:07:28 am
 :hellosign: Thanks for the updates, I also am following with interest & agree you have a brilliant imagination & modelling skills
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on January 08, 2017, 08:17:03 pm
Having read today's Farish announcements, most funding and efforts will be ploughed into scenery, buildings and accessories.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: port perran on January 09, 2017, 08:47:01 am
All looking good. I too will be following this.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on January 15, 2017, 04:36:59 pm
Over the past couple of weekends or so, I started work on two more modules:

1. The most ambitious track layout featuring both Kato and Fleischmann - trailing crossover and start of quadruple track on module 620 x 155 mm;

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/2573-150117163536.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47375)

2. Following on from that is a diverging single track around a curved platform, made up of nothing but 3mm thick styrene offcuts, based on a station which lost its original mainline platforms except for the branch line, size 372 x 372mm.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/2573-150117163230.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47374)

Combining these two sections permits a branch line train to leave from the curved platform and prototypically cross over to the other line.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Steamie+ on January 18, 2017, 06:32:26 am
Thats going to look brilliant.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on April 15, 2017, 06:25:35 pm
A few traders had Kato and Tomytec ready-made buildings at the York show.

I fancied this office tower most of all - it looks contemporary and isn't too tall to look out of place!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/50/2573-150417182345.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=50900)

It might form the basis of an art gallery (Lightly Gallery) as part of Southgrove's cultural district.

Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: newportnobby on April 15, 2017, 08:23:19 pm
I'm sure Pengi had a similar building to which she had added interiors and lighting. It looked fantastic.
@Pengi (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=631)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Pengi on April 15, 2017, 09:42:55 pm
Thanks Mick - yes I made an art gallery out of it with modern art sculptures outside. For example painted a model horse in bronze etc

link (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=9242.msg115913#msg115913)

Must finish off this layout
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on April 15, 2017, 09:51:58 pm
My building is displayed as supplied by Tomytec (it's a snap-together kit)
I remembered you posted images showing this building on this forum, at the very moment  :) when I spotted it for sale at the York show today.

In my case, I won't add internal lighting, but of course will modify the building to suit my preferences.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Steamie+ on April 27, 2017, 08:53:00 am
Have you done anymore to your layout, it’s been interesting watching this grow.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on April 29, 2017, 08:11:47 pm
Not much lately - I'd rather consolidate what I've already started.

For example, my specially-made roadway sections made a year ago still need painting, buildings to be completed, etc.
However as daylight gets longer and the weather gets warmer, I'll be able to finish off various things.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on May 25, 2017, 09:32:47 pm
My next main priority is creating suitable boxes to house modules without having the hassle of placing buildings, etc. on sections every time I take them out of storage.

It's been helped by the fact I rescued a huge empty cardboard box that would have otherwise been recycled.

However, I'll refrain from modelling this bank holiday weekend because I want to get out and about, also seeing my mother before she goes away on holiday shortly.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on May 27, 2017, 12:58:58 pm
I wasn't keen on having a huge empty box stored much longer at home, so this morning I cut it up to make four smaller boxes to house individual layout modules, including one for Gotham and Costock http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=34642.msg403055#msg403055 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=34642.msg403055#msg403055)

At least I can now go to town on detailing ...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/2573-270517125652.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52238)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/2573-270517125717.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52239)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: newportnobby on May 27, 2017, 03:09:15 pm
No bad idea as the boxes look quite sturdy :hmmm:
What's going in the fourth box?
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Steamie+ on May 30, 2017, 05:35:09 am
I really like the idea of the boxes and while the do look sturdy they are cardboard and after a while with you taking them out of the boxes they will deteriorate, before you get too far into building the scenery and detailing on them would you not like to try some 5mm ply and make a simple box from that, it would be really easy to do and it would last far longer don’t you think. But if you are happy with the cardboard that’s great and after all it was free and that’s one of the things we must consider in our gauge don’t we.  ;)

Please keep up with your brilliant modelling and post some on your modules soon.  Happy Modelling gc4946   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on May 30, 2017, 09:00:11 am
Now the bank holiday's over and having spring cleaned my flat, I'll resume work on this layout.

I'm now deciding on which areas are to be finished off first - probably the curved road sections as they're a relatively simple paint job.

However, I'm not adding finer details that could get easily damaged in storage or transit.

Wooden boxes are a good idea, I could assemble them in my small flat, but as I don't own a car in order to bring the ply home and neither do I own big power tools, I would need the ply cut by a DIY/builder's merchant.
It was much easier and convenient for me getting hold of strong cardboard from neighbours and fashion them into boxes with the tools at my disposal and much less messier at home in the process.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Steamie+ on May 31, 2017, 06:18:28 am
Completely understand @gc4946 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2573), we have to make do with what is at our disposal, and if you can get something for free and it does the job even better. Pity you don’t live close to me, i have some left over board i could make a few boxes for you with, it wouldn’t be to hard for me even if i am supposed to be recuperating. It would be a pleasure to help you with them so you would have a more secure and safer place to store your layout.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on June 04, 2017, 09:41:18 pm
There should be good news soon on some of the specially-made road modules ...

Also, there'll be a decision made on adding a suitable hostelry for Southgrove ... knowing me it won't be any of the Metcalfe, other kit-built or RTP builds.

I organised a junior school reunion in 2002 not far from this pub "The Old House at Home" and had a drink there after that event, but it's been closed for several years.
Being an art deco style, it's rather different from most pubs one sees modelled
https://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/13597/ (https://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/13597/)



Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: port perran on June 05, 2017, 08:45:21 am
An excellent choice for modelling.
Looking forward to seeing it under construction.
Interestingly, there is a pub very much like that one in Penzance.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on June 05, 2017, 08:38:57 pm
Here's my six initial road sections which conform to Kato's geometry and their Dio Town system.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/2573-050617203820.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52488)

Despite more competition for time for activities during spring and summer, I prefer to paint whilst the weather's warmer, because paints dry faster and I can leave my windows open during this time of year to let paint odours blow away.

I've opted for a simple scheme - earth base with tarmacked roads and pavements. As I also have to cater for the 1940s/50s I haven't painted on any road markings. I've kept any buildings or other scenic features off these sections for maximum flexibility.

In all cases, Kato's double tracks are laid round the perimeter of this configuration.

Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Steamie+ on June 06, 2017, 06:28:52 am
There should be good news soon on some of the specially-made road modules ...

Also, there'll be a decision made on adding a suitable hostelry for Southgrove ... knowing me it won't be any of the Metcalfe, other kit-built or RTP builds.

I organised a junior school reunion in 2002 not far from this pub "The Old House at Home" and had a drink there after that event, but it's been closed for several years.
Being an art deco style, it's rather different from most pubs one sees modelled
https://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/13597/ (https://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/13597/)

Also one very nearly the same in Maghull nr Liverpool, you can find it on the same site has the one you have shown gc4946.

Will be a brilliant model of an art deco pub.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on June 10, 2017, 12:14:27 pm
NEW DEVELOPMENT AT BRANCHERRY CLOSE!

Highly desirable 1- and 2-bed homes with dedicated parking (some with garages) available for immediate purchase, close to Southgrove's amenities!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/2573-100617121333.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52608)

Enough of the blurb ...

these models were bought from a Bradford MRC event some years ago, they're professionally made to show to planners a proposed development, of which the display was broken up and the buildings sold.

size is 496 x 248mm, split on two boards for easier storage.

Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 10, 2017, 01:13:29 pm
 :hellosign: Very nice addition, I`ll have one with a garage please  :thumbsup:
      regards Derek.
     
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on June 10, 2017, 01:22:46 pm
The backstory to this modern estate is that it used to be a bus depot until redevelopment ...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/2573-100617132155.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52614)

this may be the next area to be completed although I've yet to assess how much work still needs doing.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on June 10, 2017, 06:17:27 pm
I'd rather incorporate the shops and offices into my preferred plan next because work's more advanced on their bases and structures.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/2573-100617181542.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52634)

Once Kato's double track sections are added outside the perimeter, it means the layout will be approx. 1 metre square.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Steamie+ on June 11, 2017, 07:45:09 am
Looking good.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Bealman on June 11, 2017, 07:50:02 am
Very nicely modelled buildings.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on June 16, 2017, 08:36:57 pm
Southgrove's  "High Street" has thrown up a number of challenges in regard to road markings and how the roads interface with other home-made and Kato sections.

Kato splits their DioTown roads down the middle - it makes sense since in real life tarmac is applied on both halves and the main join is in the middle.

I've also had to apply British road markings - for now there's single yellow lines - created by masking off the roads and applying a Tamiya paint pen - which would have sufficed until the 80s, but I'll need to buy transfers to create scale-sized double yellow lines in future.

For comparison there's Kato's original Japanese version in beige butting onto the module.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/2573-160617203539.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52749)


Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on June 17, 2017, 09:13:25 am
This is my initial plan for Southgrove's cultural quarter.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/2573-170617091111.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52759)

The round-towered building (Tomix) will be called Lightly Gallery.

The white building (also Tomix) will become a public library.

A sculpture - and possibly other artworks - commissioned as public art will appear in the square - its name hasn't been decided yet.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Bealman on June 17, 2017, 09:23:24 am
Very modern (too modern for a BR transition modeller like me), but still very cool!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on June 24, 2017, 10:48:58 am
I've dealt with Southgrove's High Street, the town's inner area, and now dealing with suburbia.

Three stores and two 1930s semis planned.

After some revision, I'll model Devine 'N'lightenment store, Gray's Fitness World (the arc-roofed structure - yet to be modified) and Burge's Café. 

Gray's Fitness World will be based on a model of unknown toy-like origin, initially bought at an exhibition in Bradford which looked about the right size in N and gives an interesting variation to this mini strip mall.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/2573-240617104427.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52867)

All three ex-pupils lived along the same short stretch of road and I've placed the named structures in the same order where they lived.

Off the diorama, two outbuildings are present - one Kestrel (in bits) and the other a toy-like structure of unknown origin bought at the same time as the arc-roofed structure in Bradford.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 26, 2017, 12:24:14 am
 :hellosign: Nice work &   :greatpicturessign: thanks for the updates
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on June 26, 2017, 08:13:10 pm
Today was my birthday and mum and I went to York on the Coastliner bus.

She and I did some shopping and after lunch went our own ways.
I called into Monk Bar Models and bought Ratio GWR spear fencing and oil tank kits, and Kestrel's laser-cut wooden garden fencing, however, wasn't tempted to buy any rolling stock.

Then I walked along on top of the city wall from Monk Bar to near York Art Gallery, walked through Yorkshire Museum's grounds, in order to reach the footbridge adjoining the Scarborough line over the River Ouse, where afterwards I cut through to Leeman Road towards the NRM (sorry, no photos taken)

I didn't spend long at the NRM but looked in the heavily-modified LSWR dining car displayed in the Great Hall as part of the history of WW1 ambulance trains.
I remembered two similar LSWR dining car saloons stored on the Mid-Hants railway at Ropley until they were sold and moved to the Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway.

After visiting the NRM, I returned along the route via the station in order to catch my bus home.

Back to modelling matters,

work's progressing on Gray's Fitness World store ... the exterior walls are appropriately painted grey with bright yellow door and window frames added - until about late 1980, the ex-pupil's home in question had bright yellow exterior woodwork!!

I'll also print out a lot of customised names for various buildings and industries.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/2573-260617201020.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52954)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: newportnobby on June 26, 2017, 08:21:29 pm
Happy Birthday! :beers:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on July 01, 2017, 08:46:26 am
Here's my row of three stores:

Devine 'n'Lightenment, Gray's Fitness World and Burge's Café, including service access road and paths.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2573-010717084441.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53066)

The "nlight" part of the sign in "Devine 'n'Lightenment" isn't too clear in the photo as it was printed in white lettering on yellow.

I'm not including too much interior detail although one can make out the office in Devine's store and the counter and eating area in Burge's Café.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on July 04, 2017, 06:48:59 pm
Although the "suburbia" section's not finished, I've made sufficient progress to see how that blends in with the rest of my painted modules.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2573-040717184637.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53135)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2573-040717184717.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53136)


In particular, the semis still need a lot more work - painting and grassing over the front and rear gardens, walls, fencing, chimneys.
I spent ages going through my stocks of fencing to place round the houses, but decided to scratchbuild everything from styrene sheet and strip.

Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Steamie+ on July 05, 2017, 05:05:04 am
Although the "suburbia" section's not finished, I've made sufficient progress to see how that blends in with the rest of my painted modules.


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2573-040717184637.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53135[/url])


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2573-040717184717.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53136[/url])


In particular, the semis still need a lot more work - painting and grassing over the front and rear gardens, walls, fencing, chimneys.
I spent ages going through my stocks of fencing to place round the houses, but decided to scratchbuild everything from styrene sheet and strip.



Nice job on the stores and like the graffiti on the Devine store..
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on July 07, 2017, 07:30:06 pm
Work's now completed - to a basic level - on my suburbia scene.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2573-070717192723.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53200)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2573-070717192818.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53201)

I could have added extra details including garages, gates and sheds to my semis and/or made the backs and alleyways of the stores look more unkempt, however these all add more fragility especially when having operating sessions and then putting them away.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 07, 2017, 08:42:19 pm
Looking good,  :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 07, 2017, 10:45:29 pm
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign: Excellent modelling, looks superb, thanks for the updates
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on July 22, 2017, 10:04:58 am
Work's progressing on the bus depot.

It's scratchbuilt in styrene based on a freelance design involving concrete, with brick infills by Metcalfe Models.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2573-220717100616.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53599)

I enlarged the base in order to conform with the dimensions of the housing module called "Brancherry Close".

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/2573-100617132155.jpeg)

In my imagination the housing development was built on the former bus depot. It means the module becomes a direct swap.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on July 29, 2017, 08:51:19 am
I'm prioritising several long-term stored projects from my earlier layout, Fisherlea, for completion.

Camilleri's Ristorante is a repainted old Lima plastic Italian modernist station building which will be adapted as an upmarket restaurant.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2573-290717084634.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53806)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2573-290717084729.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53807)


The art deco-style office would have been the centrepiece of Fisherlea. Its initial use was an HQ of a US-based multinational when it wanted to make its presence known in Britain.

It's scratchbuilt around two Farish clear plastic loco box lids (the long wings) and a clear Oxford Diecast box top (the entrance/atrium)

Its new purpose will now be the Goodall-Hillyer (known colloquially as Goodhill) Athletics and Social Club's HQ.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2573-290717084854.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53808)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Rowlie on July 29, 2017, 10:38:42 am
Hi really enjoyed catching up with this thread, hadn't heard of the Kato modules before.  I like your approach to office building, it captures the feel a building from the 30s to the 60s with the Crittal metal window frame style.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: newportnobby on July 29, 2017, 05:50:12 pm
Some really good scratchbuilding there. I like the re-use of materials like the clear boxes.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on July 30, 2017, 11:02:15 am
Work's progressing on the bus depot.

It's owned by an independent operator - Southdown had their own house style and City of Portsmouth Passenger Department/Portsmouth Citybus had yet another style.
I haven't decided on the name of the depot, its fictitious operator or its corporate image yet - Priory Buses or Westfield Priory Travel are contenders.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2573-300717110040.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53853)

Spear fencing now erected (GWR style by Ratio), base painted, including concrete hard standing within building.
However still finalising extras including fuelling facilities and depot doors.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2573-300717110140.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53854)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 31, 2017, 12:31:33 am
 :hellosign: Excellent modelling, loving your bus depot, thanks for the updates
          regards Derek.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on August 06, 2017, 10:12:33 am
This weekend I did some plastic-bashing ... no, not the credit card sort ...

Four 3mm thick styrene modules fabricated:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-060817100850.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54069)

1 x 248 mm square board;
2 x 620 x 124 mm sections and 1 x 496 x 124 mm section, to lie alongside Tomytec's running track to make the total size 744 x 496 mm.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-060817100941.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54070)

The large office building will be situated next to the running track.
BTW the 496 x 124mm section was made entirely from cut-offs from other 3mm thick styrene sheets.
This means I now only have a few scraps of 3mm thick section styrene left in my materials stores.

The 248 mm square board will become Southgrove's cultural quarter with library, art gallery and sculpture set in a town square.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-060817101041.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54071)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: NeMo on August 06, 2017, 10:21:45 am
I'm really enjoying this thread.

It's great to see Kato Unitrack getting more widely accepted in the UK as part of the "real" model railway hobby. What you're doing here is everything we like to champion -- kit-building, kit-bashing and scratch-building -- while using the Unitrack system as the backdrop. There's so much imagination and careful planning needed to do what you're doing.

At some point, I hope you get around to writing an article about your experiences for the N Gauge Journal. I'd certainly enjoy seeing some photos of the whole thing when it's set up and running -- but I totally understand if your modular layout is never actually finished!

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Train Waiting on August 06, 2017, 02:20:22 pm
I'm really enjoying this thread.

It's great to see Kato Unitrack getting more widely accepted in the UK as part of the "real" model railway hobby. What you're doing here is everything we like to champion -- kit-building, kit-bashing and scratch-building -- while using the Unitrack system as the backdrop. There's so much imagination and careful planning needed to do what you're doing.

Cheers, NeMo

I agree completely: this is fascinating stuff, thank you very much indeed.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on August 07, 2017, 08:21:05 pm
The bus depot is now finished, will add details such as skips later on.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-070817201953.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54115)

Priory Buses is the operator running from this depot, however I've yet to model any of their vehicles in their planned fleet.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-070817202020.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54116)

I opted for roller shutter doors in yellow and black (that's the service bay) to brighten up an otherwise drab scene and to meet health & safety requirements, put in a bunded fuel tank (Ratio, modified) and added a fuel pump.

Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on August 12, 2017, 04:58:05 pm
Work's progressing on the offices (base size: 620 x 124 mm)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-120817165136.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-120817165109.jpeg)

At last the roofs have been fitted but still to be painted. I've already started on the base as well. However I've refrained from some of the ornate details that sometimes grace art deco architecture.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: newportnobby on August 12, 2017, 08:18:53 pm
That looks seriously good :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on August 20, 2017, 09:53:04 am
This week I've focused on track and infrastructure.

Depending on the space available at my disposal, I'm designing ways of accommodating flexibility in siding and station length.

At a pinch - I can make up a maximum straight length of 992 mm (4 x Kato standard 248 mm lengths) before allowing for curves at both ends.
If I wanted a U-shape end to end facility, I now have provision for that as well.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-200817094807.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54358)

The most drastic modifications have been to Kato's 23-127 platform track pack http://www.traintrax.co.uk/buildings-structures-vehicl-railway-station-platforms-c-13_15.html?page=4&sort=3a (http://www.traintrax.co.uk/buildings-structures-vehicl-railway-station-platforms-c-13_15.html?page=4&sort=3a)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-200817095031.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54360)

The tapered ends have been cut off and replaced with rectangular sections which conform to the standard full-length sections, 248 x 155 mm.
To conform to UK practice, ramps have been added, the angles and lengths worked out from some Ratio platform ramp GWR spear fencing.

In addition a complete section has been scratchbuilt (in white styrene)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-200817094908.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54359)

I now have two ends, one for through track and the other making the station as a terminus.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-200817095031.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54360)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Train Waiting on August 20, 2017, 11:08:12 am
This is looking wonderful!  It's great to see the excellent Kato products being used in this very imaginative way.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: newportnobby on August 20, 2017, 11:27:41 am
A neat, clever solution :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 21, 2017, 09:55:57 pm
This is looking wonderful!  It's great to see the excellent Kato products being used in this very imaginative way.

Best wishes.

John
l
Totally agree that is imaginative modelling, looks superb
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on August 24, 2017, 06:16:30 pm
Work's virtually completed on this office.

I chose to model a well-maintained gravel surface rather than grass, this was achieved by using fine-grained sandpaper.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-240817181459.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54462)

To simplify matters, I didn't model a full interior, although as the structure's only lightly tacked down on its base with Evostick, I could retrospectively add such detail in the future.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-240817181545.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54463)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on August 26, 2017, 08:15:07 am

The 248 mm square board will become Southgrove's cultural quarter with library, art gallery and sculpture set in a town square.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-060817101041.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54071[/url])


I'm looking into making a suitable contemporary public art sculpture, whether based on an existing example or my own creation, so work's delayed on starting this module.

However I'll suspend modelling activity until next week, because I want to get out and about this bank holiday weekend and today I might see my mum - amongst other things - to find out if I can rectify any of her car's paint scratches and scuffs.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on August 26, 2017, 04:41:16 pm
I visited Frizinghall Models at their current location off Otley Road at Baildon - the first time I visited their new location - bright and airy and very quiet!

I bought more fencing and some Kestrel building kits. According to Google maps, their current location is a good 2km (over a mile's walk) from Shipley station which I did there and back
Only one bus an hour (the 737) passes near their shop http://www.wymetro.com/site/templates/pages/BusTimetable.PB.aspx?route=737&code= (http://www.wymetro.com/site/templates/pages/BusTimetable.PB.aspx?route=737&code=)

However Baildon station is much nearer, although you would need to change at Shipley if coming from Leeds or Skipton.

At least I put in more than the 10 minutes' brisk walking as recommended by Public Health England this week https://www.gov.uk/government/news/6-million-adults-do-not-do-a-monthly-brisk-10-minute-walk (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/6-million-adults-do-not-do-a-monthly-brisk-10-minute-walk)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on August 27, 2017, 10:55:03 am
PUBLIC ART SCULPTURE COMMISSIONED FOR PLANNED TOWN SQUARE

Today, the Council unveiled its proposed sculpture plans in the yet-to-be named town square.

It comprises "SG" depicting the first letters of "South" and Grove" in a grid-style form with a horizontal band symbolically linking the two letters.

The giant letters will appear in metal mounted on a decorative concrete plinth.

A spokesperson from the council said "This commission completes the final piece in the jigsaw in Southgrove's aim to have the best cultural district for miles around. With the Lightly Gallery and a new public library coming soon, we're feeling excited about the town being a major cultural force"

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-270817105431.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54569)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on August 27, 2017, 12:20:09 pm
The sculpture has its letters modified by trimming some of the corners off and will have the appearance of thick cut steel slabs mounted on a concrete plinth.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-270817121916.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54570)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: weave on August 27, 2017, 01:42:52 pm
Hi,

Looks really good. I won't say anything about where my Council Tax money is being spent  :D.

Few fountains maybe (being serious) would look fantastic.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on August 27, 2017, 09:08:28 pm
BREAKING NEWS - SCULPTURE DONATED TO SOUTHGROVE BY TOWN'S GERMAN TWIN

A hollow steel pole decorated in Germany's flag colours has been offered to Southgrove by the Bürgermeister of Keiditschstadt for inclusion in the town's cultural quarter.

The Bürgermeister's office released a press statement saying:

"We are delighted to support Southgrove's determination to become a cultural force in the area. Keiditschstadt will do all its very best to help in this regard."

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-270817210659.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54579)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: RailGooner on August 27, 2017, 09:17:04 pm
 :greatpicturessign:
More great work Gc4946. Interesting how Southgrove is bucking the national trend by opening cultural facilities rather than closing them. :D
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on August 27, 2017, 09:29:45 pm
The Council made a conscious decision - despite austerity - to promote itself as a centre of culture.

It wanted to follow Gateshead Council's successful policy on public art and culture, i.e. Baltic Centre and Antony Gormley's sculpture Angel of the North
http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-wings-of-angel-of-the-north-gateshead-tyne-wear-england-uk-12307748.html (http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-wings-of-angel-of-the-north-gateshead-tyne-wear-england-uk-12307748.html)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on August 30, 2017, 12:30:09 am
TOWN SQUARE WILL BE OFFICIALLY NAMED, FOLLOWED BY CELEBRATIONS TODAY

Hello, Guten Tag,

Ladies and gentlemen, Meine Damen und Herren,

Today, the 30th of August, is a very important day in Southgrove's aim to be a major cultural force.
We are now ready to open both the new Library and the Lightly Gallery.

Firstly, we will formally unveil both our Council's commissioned art work and our twin town's contribution from Stadt Keiditsch.

We will then officially name this cultural quarter Keiditsch Square - or called in German, Keiditschplatz - to the great honour of both communities.
After the official naming ceremony, both our Mayor of Southgrove and the Bürgermeister of Stadt Keiditsch will be shown round the new buildings.

There will be a special dinner and cocktail event at the Goodall-Hillyer Athletics and Social Club, partly sponsored by Gray's Fitness World, whose founder's birthday happens to fall on this very special day.
We say Happy Birthday to him and offer him many returns of the day.

Meanwhile in the Lightly Gallery, we begin our programme of art with an Anglo-German photographic exhibition, leading to a closing celebration on 19th November.

The Library will show every submission made to Southgrove's all-ages poetry competition, online and in print.
A panel of judges will announce the winners on 4th September.

This is only the start of Southgrove's journey to cultural prosperity.
All the best regards from our Mayor and hosts.

Thank you very much - Dankeschön.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-300817002514.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54648)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-300817002619.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54649)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-300817002800.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54650)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-300817002842.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54651)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Innovationgame on August 30, 2017, 06:34:30 am
What a lovely back story.  It sounds as though there might be more culture in Southgrove than in Hull!
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: port perran on August 30, 2017, 07:45:16 am
A really nice little story. Brings things to life.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Train Waiting on August 30, 2017, 07:47:54 am
What a lovely back story.  It sounds as though there might be more culture in Southgrove than in Hull!

And isn't Hull 'City of Culture 2017'?!

This is wonderful, imaginative modelling and delightful to see.

All best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: Innovationgame on August 30, 2017, 07:59:00 am
And isn't Hull 'City of Culture 2017'?!
Precisely!
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 31, 2017, 12:41:15 am
TOWN SQUARE WILL BE OFFICIALLY NAMED, FOLLOWED BY CELEBRATIONS TODAY

Hello, Guten Tag,

Ladies and gentlemen, Meine Damen und Herren,

Today, the 30th of August, is a very important day in Southgrove's aim to be a major cultural force.
We are now ready to open both the new Library and the Lightly Gallery.

Firstly, we will formally unveil both our Council's commissioned art work and our twin town's contribution from Stadt Keiditsch.

We will then officially name this cultural quarter Keiditsch Square - or called in German, Keiditschplatz - to the great honour of both communities.
After the official naming ceremony, both our Mayor of Southgrove and the Bürgermeister of Stadt Keiditsch will be shown round the new buildings.

There will be a special dinner and cocktail event at the Goodall-Hillyer Athletics and Social Club, partly sponsored by Gray's Fitness World, whose founder's birthday happens to fall on this very special day.
We say Happy Birthday to him and offer him many returns of the day.

Meanwhile in the Lightly Gallery, we begin our programme of art with an Anglo-German photographic exhibition, leading to a closing celebration on 19th November.

The Library will show every submission made to Southgrove's all-ages poetry competition, online and in print.
A panel of judges will announce the winners on 4th September.

This is only the start of Southgrove's journey to cultural prosperity.
All the best regards from our Mayor and hosts.

Thank you very much - Dankeschön.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-300817002514.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54648[/url])

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([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-300817002800.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54650[/url])

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 :hellosign: Many thanks for the excellent back story &   :greatpicturessign:
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 03, 2017, 11:13:49 am
Work's progressing on the modernist-style Camilleri's Ristorante.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-030917111211.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54884)

It includes parking and outside social and eating area. The fancy-styled fencing came with Kato's DioTown road packs, the boundary fencing is Ratio.

In addition more progress has been made on the former junction station now only used by branch line services (e.g. Ambergate) - the platform's under construction, mostly from styrene sheet offcuts, albeit topped with a new fresh 1mm thick sheet.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-030917111258.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54885)

There'll be a road curving parallel to the track which will follow a straight course alongside the now (truncated) station.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 03, 2017, 09:13:44 pm
STATION NAME ANNOUNCEMENT AND SURROUNDING AREA PLANS OUTLINED


More progress has been made on the former junction station now only used by branch line services (e.g. Ambergate) - the platform's under construction, mostly from styrene sheet offcuts, albeit topped with a new fresh 1mm thick sheet.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/2573-030917111258.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54885[/url])

There'll be a road curving parallel to the track which will follow a straight course alongside the now (truncated) station.


This station will be named Millerhurst - combination of surname and part of his former home address. He attended Brunel University so there'll eventually be:
- a building named "I.K. Brunel" (pub or community centre?)
- a light engineering industrial unit "Dean & Collett Engineering Co." will appear in the vicinity (I knew two people at school who shared surnames with GWR's chief mechanical engineers)
- the much truncated station demolished during the 60s (but BR restored the remains during the 80s) will have GWR spear fencing, replica pagoda shelter and classic GWR (not BR (W)) black and white station signs.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 05, 2017, 08:48:44 pm
Sorry, no photos, but this is my possible plan for "Millerhurst":

The "Dean & Collett Engineering Co." building will be housed in a modern style industrial unit (Kestrel) built in the former goods yard (bound by the sharp curve)

http://www.topslotsntrains.com/topslotsntrains/final.asp?ref=Kestrel-Designs-GM-KD39-N-Scale-KD39-MODERN-INDUSTRIAL-UNIT-PLASTIC-MODEL-KIT-&id=11402&manufacturer=%27Kestrel%20Designs%27 (http://www.topslotsntrains.com/topslotsntrains/final.asp?ref=Kestrel-Designs-GM-KD39-N-Scale-KD39-MODERN-INDUSTRIAL-UNIT-PLASTIC-MODEL-KIT-&id=11402&manufacturer=%27Kestrel%20Designs%27)

The "I.K. Brunel" pub will be on the platform created from an existing structure.

I'm considering the following to represent the pub:
1. Ratio's GWR Castle Cary stone building http://www.peco-uk.com/product.asp?strParents=3340,3341&CAT_ID=3343&P_ID=17753 (http://www.peco-uk.com/product.asp?strParents=3340,3341&CAT_ID=3343&P_ID=17753)
2. Metcalfe Models Brunel design stone building https://www.metcalfemodels.com/product/pn138-n-scale-stone-built-wayside-station/ (https://www.metcalfemodels.com/product/pn138-n-scale-stone-built-wayside-station/)
3. Timecast Models GWR brick-built station http://www.timecastmodels.co.uk/rail_catalogue/nb_3.jpg (http://www.timecastmodels.co.uk/rail_catalogue/nb_3.jpg)

I like the Timecast building, however there are no dimensions given and I don't know on this forum who's actually used these models and how good they are.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 08, 2017, 09:28:35 pm
Another option I've identified is a BR version of a standard GWR brick-built station building, as proposed by Oxford Structures (Oxford Rail) in OO scale http://oxfordrail.com/76/structures.htm (http://oxfordrail.com/76/structures.htm)

According to Dibber25 (Chris Leigh) it's actually a Western Region modification by doing away with the chimneys and roof tiling, replacing them with felt roofing http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/123202-oxford-2017-announce-oxford-structures/page-5 (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/123202-oxford-2017-announce-oxford-structures/page-5) (see post #108)

I'm not copping out on providing chimneys for my model, but this would be authentic for a layout set during the post-Beeching era,
see also Moreton-in-Marsh's station which is well documented on the net https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=moreton+in+marsh+station+images&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj38a6xtpbWAhWJuRQKHZ0WCjgQsAQIJQ&biw=1093&bih=479 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=moreton+in+marsh+station+images&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj38a6xtpbWAhWJuRQKHZ0WCjgQsAQIJQ&biw=1093&bih=479)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 09, 2017, 07:26:20 pm
Surprisingly, I haven't yet shown any of my trains which I'm operating, because I've been too absorbed with building modules.

Here's a taste of what will be running - representing a late 80s session - both 3-car Poole Farish Met-Cam sets (the blue/grey unit is an early version with inlays)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/2573-090917192407.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=55340)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 10, 2017, 08:33:47 am
I'm now winding forward to 1998/99:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/2573-100917083238.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=55439)

End of long journey!
Blackpool North-Southgrove (diverted from Portsmouth Harbour due to engineering works) Virgin Cross Country service
Formed HST 2 + 2 (Virgin XC ran a few similar-length formations around then)

Regional Railways 158, EWS 66 with Cargowaggon on trip working
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 10, 2017, 08:55:49 am
By early 2008, Southgrove was primarily served by First Great Western.
The Blackpool North-Portsmouth service had by then been discontinued and there was only an occasional South West Trains service.

Early 2008 provided an interesting mix because FGW hired DMUs from Arriva Trains Wales, as well as being the last year of the Wessex Trains overall advertisement liveries.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/2573-100917085338.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=55440)
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 16, 2017, 08:25:19 pm
Tonight I've returned home having spent a week in Devon with a friend.

We stayed overnight at various Youth Hostels' Association locations en route both ways to and from Yorkshire, culminating in two nights' stay at their place in Beer, Devon.

Last Wednesday we spent about three hours at Pecorama, of which some time was spent in the permanent model railway exhibition and one trip on the Beer Heights Light Railway, but more time playing crazy golf and looking round the gardens, however no time spent looking in Peco's shop!

The main reason for the trip was to examine, order and pay for vegan made-to-measure shoes (I'm not vegan, but my friend is) in Exeter (Chuckle Shoes) as replacements for my similar pair which have lasted nine years so far.
My feet (and my friend's) were professionally measured up and specifications and colours chosen, but our shoes won't be ready for delivery until 11th November!

On the way back home we visited Peak Rail and had one return trip between Rowsley and Matlock.

Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 17, 2017, 05:21:14 pm
Work's now largely completed on "Camilleri's Ristorante" except for road markings and other details.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/2573-170917171958.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=55928)

However, as the modules are formed in pairs, I'm now announcing the development of Capt. Mainwaring's Home Guard Museum.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/2573-170917172044.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=55929)

Built around a Farish Scenecraft Nissen hut, it'll feature exhibits associated with the Home Guard. The back story was that the museum was established in 1975 in order to document the history of the Home Guard following renewed interest as a result of the BBC's Dad's Army programmes.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 18, 2017, 06:58:28 pm
Last night my Scenecraft's Nissen hut fell onto the carpet. Even though the resin casting looked robust a 5mm section of the roof's overhang snapped off.

I decided to hide the damage by shaping some Milliput to create a representation of sandbags protecting the front entrance as happened during World War 2, as an introduction to Capt. Mainwaring's Home Guard Museum.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/2573-180917185721.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=55941)

Some leftover Milliput will be used as further representation of sandbags.
Title: Re: Southgrove - modular layout based on Kato Unitrack
Post by: gc4946 on September 21, 2017, 08:14:49 pm
Tonight I've decided on the layout of the Home Guard Museum module.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/2573-210917201354.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56053)

The black plastic area will be the museum's car park. Visitors enter the museum through double gates, into a fenced-off compound, where a sentry hut (yet to be built) will collect admission fees.

Visitors will briefly pass displays such as anti-invasion artefacts prior to approaching the Nissen hut's entrance covered with sandbags to simulate air raid precautions.

The fencing was made from a sheet of etched brass mesh held in my possession for many years and 1mm square plastic strip.