N Gauge Forum

Your Layout and Models => On My Workbench => Topic started by: Lawrence on June 07, 2012, 09:46:00 pm

Title: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Lawrence on June 07, 2012, 09:46:00 pm
Welcome to the new project. 

Your mission this time is to make one of those card kits your own, by kitbashing it  ;D this could be adding bits or combining kits, adding extra detail or even down sizing it.  As long as it is railway / layout related and you build it in such a manner that it is quite different from the original (no, sticking different chimneys on doesn't count  ;) )

As usual, please start your own thread in this section chronicling your project, with pictures, hints, tips and materials used to ensure we can all learn from it.

There are no restrictions on size, country or era but obviously it would make sense to build something that can be used on your own layout. 

So, it must be card, it must be railway / layout related and it must differ from the original design.

Have fun and enjoy the project
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Oldman on June 14, 2012, 05:02:09 pm
How long have we got to do this Lawrence?
Undecided what to do if I can find a suitable kit to modify.
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Tank on June 14, 2012, 05:09:48 pm
We've decided to leave all of the projects open in regards to time, so that anyone can join in at any time. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Oldman on June 14, 2012, 05:48:36 pm
Cheers Chris
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Matthew-peter on June 14, 2012, 06:42:39 pm
This sounds very apealing, gives me a chance to personalise my station building, will try find the metcalfe kit to modify methinks although the model shop near me is very disapointing and the model zone in Hull isnt much better. Not really sure of any other card kit makes O.O
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: scotsoft on June 14, 2012, 08:26:01 pm
How long have we got to do this Lawrence?
Undecided what to do if I can find a suitable kit to modify.


Why don't you download the free stuff from www.scalescenes.com (http://www.scalescenes.com), that way you could muck about and it has cost very little  ;)
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Oldman on June 14, 2012, 08:32:00 pm
[
Why don't you download the free stuff from [url=http://www.scalescenes.com]www.scalescenes.com[/url] ([url]http://www.scalescenes.com[/url]), that way you could muck about and it has cost very little  ;)

Have got them but they don't float my boat at the moment - not what I want for the layout.
May try one of the Wordsworth  ones instead.
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Mr.Grumpy on June 22, 2012, 04:56:23 pm
I'm gutted I wasn't around when the diorama contest happened. I think I might do both so I can catch up. This will be great practice for my scenery building!
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Mr.Grumpy on July 10, 2012, 11:06:04 pm
Sorry to double post:

Does it have to be a kit or can I b***rdise a net and print it myself so that it is in essence, my own card kit design?
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Mustermark on July 11, 2012, 01:50:27 am
I think the rules are fairly loose as there is no actual winner.  We just use the whole thing to share ideas and try new things.  So I would say go for it and we might all learn from you.
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: longbridge on July 11, 2012, 04:31:41 am
Great project Lawrence just as I am about to start building structures  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Lawrence on July 11, 2012, 08:28:20 am
Sorry to double post:

Does it have to be a kit or can I b***rdise a net and print it myself so that it is in essence, my own card kit design?

No problem, as essentially you are printing out a kit  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: upnick on July 11, 2012, 10:12:56 am
Sorry to double post:

Does it have to be a kit or can I b***rdise a  net and print it myself so that it is in essence, my own card kit design?

I  dont understand what you mean  never mind what your going to print out in kit form  ???
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Mr.Grumpy on July 11, 2012, 02:07:45 pm
A net is what you get when you unfold something made from paper. The simplest one you do in school is a cube net (https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=cube+net).

So essentially I make it in Blender 3D, texture it then mark the seams and print it to a net then bash it together. I could make anything.
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Newportnobby on July 11, 2012, 02:21:10 pm


So essentially I make it in Blender 3D, texture it then mark the seams and print it to a net then bash it together. I could make anything.

Any chance of a Liz Hurley ;)
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Matthew-peter on July 11, 2012, 02:22:21 pm
I could make anything.

I could make you a maaaan (rocky horror picture show for those who havent seen it) sorry  :smiley-laughing:

As for my kitbash Im about to order the 'skeleton' so hopefully should be able to start it soon.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Mr.Grumpy on July 11, 2012, 02:24:40 pm


So essentially I make it in Blender 3D, texture it then mark the seams and print it to a net then bash it together. I could make anything.

Any chance of a Liz Hurley ;)

Too many polygons, especially around the middle ;D
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: upnick on July 11, 2012, 06:02:40 pm
A net is what you get when you unfold something made from paper. The simplest one you do in school is a cube net (https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=cube+net).

So essentially I make it in Blender 3D, texture it then mark the seams and print it to a net then bash it together. I could make anything.

Hi  Mr.grumpy  thank  you for the explination  but not  all  of us  are  3D   designinng  hence  my  question   ;) good luck   with whatever you choose looks forward  to seeing it  :)

Any chance of a Liz Hurley ;)

Mick  please get in the queue   ;) :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: mmcsadler on August 30, 2012, 09:31:46 am
I'm in the process of scratchbuilding some station buildings from card, clear plastic and Scalescenes papers/signs for my clubs layout. i would post some photos but haven't figured out how to do this on this forum site???
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Lawrence on August 30, 2012, 10:34:53 am
I'm in the process of scratchbuilding some station buildings from card, clear plastic and Scalescenes papers/signs for my clubs layout. i would post some photos but haven't figured out how to do this on this forum site???

Click on the media tab at the top of the screen for info on adding pictures
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: mmcsadler on September 03, 2012, 09:51:43 am
thanks
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Steamie+ on January 17, 2017, 06:29:17 am
Not sure what has happened here, there isnít much happing on the kit bash side of things, does it have to be printed on card all the time or can it be an alteration of some other kits i.e. Metcalfe, Peco, Wills, Knightwing and others, i have seen some of these done really well either extended or reduced. I know the thread is headed Card Kit but can it include plastic has well. Kit bashing is Kit bashing isnít  and making it your own is the main thing really.

Great thread by the way.      :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 17, 2017, 01:16:54 pm
Strange... As I am certain I posted my Hospital that was bashed from a download, sadly destroyed in the great pipe leak of 2015.

Jerry
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Newportnobby on January 17, 2017, 01:20:23 pm
Strange... As I am certain I posted my Hospital that was bashed from a download, sadly destroyed in the great pipe leak of 2015.

Jerry

Hasn't your doc cured your incontinence yet, Jerry? :-X
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 17, 2017, 02:20:32 pm
Of course I'm in't continent here in Italy!
 :doh: :doh:
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Steamie+ on January 18, 2017, 06:14:31 am
Strange... As I am certain I posted my Hospital that was bashed from a download, sadly destroyed in the great pipe leak of 2015.

Jerry

Have you still got the download on your computer ?     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 18, 2017, 09:46:07 am
No such luck, It has gone missing between switching computers.
I found my old post on the forum with pictures of it taken in 2012 I think and a link to the site of Armada models. Sadly the company exists but the download isn't there.

It was a model of the Methodist Chapel at Newport Pagnell.

Jerry
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: NinOz on January 18, 2017, 10:31:03 am
It was a model of the Methodist Chapel at Newport Pagnell.

Jerry

http://www.amdl.co.uk/armadamodels/model_kits/np_church/np_church.htm (http://www.amdl.co.uk/armadamodels/model_kits/np_church/np_church.htm)
Looks good, maybe an e-mail might yield a copy.

CFJ
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Dorsetmike on January 18, 2017, 11:07:15 am
I "straightened" the corner pub and combined it with the corner shop and a scratch built terraced house, I used Peedie etched windows throughout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Dorsetmike's_pix/Dir_1/main_6580.jpg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Dorsetmike's_pix/Dir_1/main_6581.jpg)

I now do mainly scratch built buildings using a plotter cutter and associated software.

Another bash "method" I have used is to cover a plastic brick goods shed with stone embossed plasticard, also replaced the somewhat chunky windows with Peedie etched ones.

Other "enhancements" include adding Scalelink cast white metal  bay and dormer windows, gateposts, porches etc

http://www.scalelink.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000002.pl?WD=bay%20windows&PN=Scenic___Scale_1_152__N_%2ehtml#aSLC074 (http://www.scalelink.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000002.pl?WD=bay%20windows&PN=Scenic___Scale_1_152__N_%2ehtml#aSLC074)
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 18, 2017, 02:21:36 pm
It was a model of the Methodist Chapel at Newport Pagnell.

Jerry

[url]http://www.amdl.co.uk/armadamodels/model_kits/np_church/np_church.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.amdl.co.uk/armadamodels/model_kits/np_church/np_church.htm[/url])
Looks good, maybe an e-mail might yield a copy.

CFJ

I have emailed them so lets see, I think they also produced the Seaforth police station that I built but that has disappeared as well. The link that is not my model this time.

Jerry
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Newportnobby on January 18, 2017, 03:12:41 pm

It was a model of the Methodist Chapel at Newport Pagnell.

Jerry

I knew there was Methodism in my madness :laugh3: :doh:
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 18, 2017, 03:14:37 pm

It was a model of the Methodist Chapel at Newport Pagnell.

Jerry

I knew there was Methodism in my madness :laugh3: :doh:

 :goodbye: :goodbye: :goodbye:
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 18, 2017, 03:34:13 pm
It was a model of the Methodist Chapel at Newport Pagnell.

Jerry

[url]http://www.amdl.co.uk/armadamodels/model_kits/np_church/np_church.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.amdl.co.uk/armadamodels/model_kits/np_church/np_church.htm[/url])
Looks good, maybe an e-mail might yield a copy.

CFJ



@NinOz (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2006)  Result  :claphappy: :claphappy: They emailed me a copy, guess I will build it in its original form as well this time.  Its 1:150 but near enough unless some clever ** chap can tell me what % to print it at to get 1:148...

Jerry
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: cycletrak9 on January 18, 2017, 04:13:25 pm
Hi Jerry

I think you'll need to print at 98.6% to bring it down to 1:148 but as you say 1:150 is likely to be quite acceptable

Mike
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: jstormes on January 18, 2017, 08:16:57 pm
I think you will find that to go from 1:150 to 1:148 you need to enlarge by 101.35%.
John
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: cjdodd on January 19, 2017, 01:44:41 pm
if you enlarge by 101.35%. it will be double the size  :confused2:

englarge by 1.35%
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 19, 2017, 03:42:53 pm
I'll stick with 1:150.

Them there pertentagers are just so confusing... :dunce:

Jerry
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: keithfre on January 19, 2017, 04:24:14 pm
I think you will find that to go from 1:150 to 1:148 you need to enlarge by 101.35%.
Or you could just change the preposition: enlarge to 101.35%  ;)
(Sorry, got my linguist hat on, couldn't resist!)
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: dannyboy on January 19, 2017, 07:15:16 pm
I think you will find that to go from 1:150 to 1:148 you need to enlarge by 101.35%.
Or you could just change the preposition: enlarge to 101.35%  ;)
(Sorry, got my linguist hat on, couldn't resist!)

Or, enlarge by 1.35% ......... on second thoughts, leave it at 1:150 !  :)
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Steamie+ on January 22, 2017, 05:31:10 am
It was a model of the Methodist Chapel at Newport Pagnell.

Jerry

[url]http://www.amdl.co.uk/armadamodels/model_kits/np_church/np_church.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.amdl.co.uk/armadamodels/model_kits/np_church/np_church.htm[/url])
Looks good, maybe an e-mail might yield a copy.

CFJ

 :sorrysign: you have lost your photos Jerry, it's a real shame. I have lost some photos of my roundhouse build that I had on my camera, but daft me must of deleted them somehow.        :thumbsdown:  but you have some great builds though and I love seeing your work.     :thumbsup:

I have emailed them so lets see, I think they also produced the Seaforth police station that I built but that has disappeared as well. The link that is not my model this time.

Jerry

Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: LostBoy30A on March 27, 2017, 10:35:41 am
I'm glad this thread has bumped up again and these photos below I found have really inspired me. I've taken delivery of another Metcalfe PN 113 engine shed kit, and the workshop building seems to lend itself very well to the scratch built version I saw of this loco sand drying kiln in the photos. I'm hoping the brick printed spare modelling card that comes with it will be enough from both kits to make the flue stack system.
Some of the roof vent system from the loco shed itself will be another adaptation too.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/50/5564-270317103009.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=50297)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/50/5564-270317103124.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=50298)
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: LostBoy30A on April 01, 2017, 07:57:59 pm
Yes, I couldn't believe my luck in finding this example.
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: Steamie+ on April 03, 2017, 04:28:35 am
Hi LostBoy, i am little bit  :confused sign:, have you kit bashed that model or is it a photo of somebody elseís, please accept my apologies if you have done it, it is really brilliant work and i what one lol.    :laugh3:
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: LostBoy30A on April 03, 2017, 09:12:13 am
This isn't mine, it's an example I found of what I want to achieve. I have amended my original post to reflect this.
Title: Re: Kitbash a Card Kit
Post by: belstone on August 23, 2017, 11:13:22 am
Not an especially good photo, but the Percy Arms started life as the main building from the Metcalfe "Manor Farm" kit. Roof is made from Redutex embossed slates, and the signs were made up on the computer and printed out.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Longframlington/i-tdgw8L7/0/3f4b1649/L/230817%20001-L.jpg)

I still had quite a lot of the kit left over, resulting in Mr Blyth's bicycle repair shop with living accommodation above.  This one has a Ratio plastic roof.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Longframlington/i-ktLbDCf/0/b23de6cf/L/230817%20005-L.jpg)

And these low relief terraces are "cut and shut" pairs of Metcalfe cottages, like the ones in the foreground.  They do a kit for terraced housing, but having built a couple I wasn't that impressed by the final appearance.  I salvaged the Redutex roofs, which means that the arrangement of chimneys is now all wrong, as the original terraces were in symmetrical pairs and would have shared chimneystacks between adjacent houses.  Never mind.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Longframlington/i-bqsqFK4/0/9faae84a/L/230817%20003-L.jpg)