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Title: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: Hailstone on April 02, 2012, 01:12:46 am
I have been working on this for about 5 years, It may not look like I have got very far, but my excuse is that for at least part of the year I work on a full size traction engine

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/thumb_708.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=708)   (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/thumb_709.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=709)
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: OwL on April 02, 2012, 05:22:40 am
Well done so far. Great attention to detail :thumbsup: be sure to post some more if you can :camera:
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: longbridge on April 02, 2012, 06:51:24 am
A very nice looking layout, looking forward to seeing it progress  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: Alex on April 02, 2012, 08:26:38 am
Hi,

It looks great so far. You appear to be well stocked with engines and rolling stock. What time period are you running? Dc or DCC?

Alex
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: Newportnobby on April 02, 2012, 10:05:59 am
Personally I reckon you've made a damned good job and it looks great. Nice collection of steam locos too! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: silly moo on April 02, 2012, 11:49:44 am
Please put up some more pics if you can, especially of the station area. Or even better still a track plan. I really like the look of the layout and I'm looking for ideas for a future layout.

Regards

Veronica
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: Mustermark on April 02, 2012, 12:13:47 pm
That's a very nice layout. I love the industrial area with the chimney. It's very atmospheric especially around the engine shed.

I think it's well worthy of a few more photos. :camera:
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: galway on April 02, 2012, 06:38:32 pm
Very nice, I concur with the industrial area it looks really good, I'm sure there are many places in cities and towns in the UK that look like this, reminds me of years ago walking along the canal (cut) in Tyseley, Birmingham where the buildings overhung the canal, they had canopies very much like your buildings.

Paul
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: MinZaPint on April 02, 2012, 07:52:51 pm
This is looking very good and as others have said, more pics please  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: Donkey on April 02, 2012, 09:08:01 pm
Looking really good Hailstone  :thumbsup:. Some lovely looking steamers on there too  :) Thanks for the  :camera:

Marty
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: Hailstone on April 02, 2012, 10:56:34 pm
Thank you all for the encouragement - I am still working out how to set posts that include previous comments so please bear with me.

Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: Hailstone on April 02, 2012, 11:02:50 pm
Hi,

It looks great so far. You appear to be well stocked with engines and rolling stock. What time period are you running? Dc or DCC?

Alex

In answer to the question on whether the layout is DC or DCC, I have to confess to being old fashioned and prefer not to put a computer between the engines and me, never mind the cost of the chips.

The stock you see in the photos is all ex GWR, and I have stock representing almost any period between 1948 - 1965 (the diesels were kept in the box when I took the photo's) and also have locos from the rest of the big four and some BR standards
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: Hailstone on April 02, 2012, 11:05:10 pm
Please put up some more pics if you can, especially of the station area. Or even better still a track plan. I really like the look of the layout and I'm looking for ideas for a future layout.

Regards

Veronica

I will take some more photos of the layout and provide schematic track plans of both the oval and station boards as soon as I can
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: Dock Shunter on April 03, 2012, 10:57:42 am
Quote from:  link=topic=4956.msg54858#msg54858 date=1333351598



 (the diesels were kept in the box when I took the photo's)

That's scandalous..... i shall be reporting you to the RSPCD........ ;) ;D
 Although there are a few on here.....(not mentioning any names...you know who you are... ;))who think that is where diesels belong.....
Fantatic looking layout by the way..... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: Hailstone on April 03, 2012, 08:29:41 pm
Please put up some more pics if you can, especially of the station area. Or even better still a track plan. I really like the look of the layout and I'm looking for ideas for a future layout.

Regards

Veronica


Here are the track plans for the Terminal station and oval boards, please excuse their crude nature, I am no good at all at drawing on the computer

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/thumb_729.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=729)   (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/thumb_728.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=728)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: K-N-Gauge on April 03, 2012, 11:06:33 pm
Looking good mate!
best of luck finishing :D
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: cudders on April 04, 2012, 08:59:40 am
I agree with the other comments it's a cracking layout. More photos please.  ;D

Cudders
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: upclosevideo on April 08, 2012, 07:43:13 pm
Looks a really nice layout, how large is it.
(newbie seeking inspiration and ideas for getting started)
 :beers:
Andrew
 
Title: Re: My Layout - still under construction
Post by: Hailstone on April 09, 2012, 12:26:35 pm
Looks a really nice layout, how large is it.
(newbie seeking inspiration and ideas for getting started)
 :beers:
Andrew
 

The oval section is 60" x 30", the Terminal station 72" x 18" and the fiddle yard 72" x 12"
Title: Re: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: Hailstone on February 03, 2015, 10:21:11 am
Finally after almost ten years, largely thanks to Chris in Prague, my main layout finally has a title, the main line station is Trewoon, and the Terminal station Pentewan (for Mevagissey).
I will leave it to Chris to paint the history of this branch as he discovered that it did actually exist!

Regards,

Alex   
Title: Re: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: Ensign Elliott on February 03, 2015, 12:42:43 pm
Great layout!
Title: Re: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 03, 2015, 10:46:27 pm
Thank you for this opportunity to post the history that we agreed for this lovely Cornish layout.

The first railway at Pentewan was a 2 ft 6 in (762 mm) narrow gauge  horse-drawn tramway carrying china clay from St Austell (it did not reach the GWR mainline) to a new harbour at Pentewan which was opened in 1829. In 1874 the Pentewan Railway was strengthened for locomotive working. It finally succumbed to more efficient operation at other ports and closed in 1918 (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentewan_Railway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentewan_Railway)).

So, the fictional Trewoon Junction to Pentewan (for Mevagissey) line had its origins in a mineral tramway, the abandoned Pentewan Railway, which its builders adapted part of the formation of. Building a station at a point between Mevagissey & Pentewan and calling it Pentewan for Mevagissey in the hopes of serving both places with one station, was quite typical of the GWR (and SR) in Cornwall.

Construction of the Trewoon Junction to Pentewan line was assisted by the British government of the day which passed the Development (Loan Guarantees and Grants) Act of 1929, under which the government would pay the interest on capital expended on schemes of development. Most railways took advantage of this Act, but none more so than the GWR which participated in the anticipation that trade would improve and there would be a need for better railway transport facilities. (By the end of 1933, it had 35 separate schemes involving a total of about 8,000,000, an enormous amount of money in those days. The GWR programme covered railway and dock operations throughout the system, and included major improvements at the main stations, lines being quadrupled, new avoiding lines, extension of Automatic Train Control, colour-light signalling and improved dock facilities in South Wales, as well as a host of smaller improvements, some carried out in cooperation with local town councils and the like.)

Similarly, the Trewoon Junction to Pentewan line was built by the GWR in the 1930s in co-operation with the local council (encouraged by a prominent local entrepreneur) supported by the U.K. government. At this period, with 2 huge beaches, Pentewan was being developed by this entrepreneur who had invested in a large holiday park inspired by the example of Butlin's, (Billy Butlin opened his first resort in 1936), and arranged with the GWR, again supported by the local council, for through trains from London (Paddington), the Midlands (Birmingham & Wolverhampton), and NW (Manchester) and NE England (Sheffield) on Saturdays (the 'changeover' day) during the high summer holiday season.

Although Trewoon Junction is only 2 and a half miles from St Austell, which already had a station, and about 2 miles further west of St Austell station, on the GWR main line, there was a station at Burngullow. However, despite this station having been closed and rebuilt a little further west on 1 August 1901 it was closed for good to passengers on 14 September 1931. So, soon afterwards, Trewon Junction was able to replace it as the station for the Burngullow area. (The sidings and branch at Burngullow continued to handle heavy china clay traffic.) So, Trewoon Junction was not provided with a large goods yard nor does it handle china clay traffic in normal circumstances.
Title: Re: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 20, 2016, 05:45:05 am
High time for an update, please.
Title: Re: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: David Asquith on January 20, 2016, 01:35:23 pm
Very nice.  Thanks for the photo's and track plan.  It's much better than I could produce.

Dave
Title: Re: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: Hailstone on April 12, 2017, 11:32:05 pm
Having spent a little time renumbering a couple of locos, I decided to have a running session using my Southern stock. hope you like the photos.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/50/1193-120417232531.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/50/1193-120417232637.jpeg)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: Newportnobby on April 13, 2017, 02:55:12 am
What a load of Bulleids ;)
Nice stud, Alex.
Title: Re: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: Hailstone on April 13, 2017, 10:34:39 am
What a load of Bulleids ;)
Nice stud, Alex.

 :laughabovepost:

Title: Re: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: weave on April 14, 2017, 04:58:29 am
Hi Alex,

Just came across this layout and the link to Tremierten (although haven't read that one properly yet). Both very nice.

Like the photos and as others have said (over the passing years, time flies by etc.) more please.

Hope you get to expand on Chris in Prague's excellent history and come up with some stories and scenarios for the layout. Cant Cove, Port Perran and others are really brought to life with that sort of thing.

Looking forward to more.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 14, 2017, 10:11:42 am
Thank you for this long overdue and much-appreciated update, Alex, of your excellent layout. It looks like BR SR were having a mass crew-training session. (Normally BR WR and SR just used their respective opposite number's Exeter-Plymouth mainlines for crew-training.) Maybe, some special through trains from BR SR in North Cornwall are being planned for the Summer? 8-)
Title: Re: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: Hailstone on March 12, 2018, 10:19:09 pm
It is quite a while since I last updated this thread as not a lot has happened while I have been building locos and upgrading and exhibiting Tremierten, but I recently decided to take a break from loco construction and have an operating session initially with the Western Region sstock and noticed that locos were derailing on the curved point behind Trewoon loco shed that leads into the back platform. whilst it worked ok in the trailing (up) direction, too many locos were derailing in the leading (down) direction.
until recently, this had not mattered as I was only running up trains but wanted to make this particular route bi directional as I could it as a loop for down freight trains as well, so I decide to investigate and came to the conclusion that the curve entering the point was just a little too tight and so decided to relay it a little closer to the up main.
using 2 auto coaches, to give minimum clearance between the up main and loop which are the longest coaches I have, I temporarily laid a new track starting from the curved point and leading back towards the fiddle yard junction and then rechecked that locos could negotiate it without derailment - success! I then fitted it properly, painted the rails and replace all of the scenery I had uprooted to get at the track, so I am now able to use the loop in up or down directions as a refuge for freight trains, as well as a more useable run round loop in the station to reverse local trains.
having done all this I felt it was time to have an operating session with the Eastern Region stock as you can see below

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/1193-120318214730.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/1193-120318214412.jpeg)

For anyone confused about up and down directions, down is towards Pentewan, and up towards the fiddle yard (Paddington)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 13, 2018, 07:15:15 am
Many thanks for this update. I'm glad that you were able to get the track problem sorted out. More photos., including close-ups of trains, are always welcome.
Title: Re: Trewoon Junction and Pentewan (for Mevagissey)
Post by: Train Waiting on March 15, 2018, 08:48:09 am
What a  :superblayout: - exactly my kind of thing!

Congratulations to the PW Dept on a job well done.

 :greatpicturessign: :thankyousign:

All the best.

John

PS Apologies for getting carried away with these little symbol-things, but I was just so impressed by this layout.