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Title: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 28, 2017, 03:47:45 pm

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With Retirement approaching very rapidly at the end of September, I feel the need to build a new layout to keep me out of mischief, to achieve this I will need to dismantle my OO (orribly oversize) layout "Morthole" which was based on the real station of that name on the Withered-arm of the SR line in North Devon. My OO stock will be sold off to raise funds for the new layout,The new layout will partially fill the space freed up,after redecorating the room it is in which is my living room.The new layout being n-gauge willl give me a bit more space in my living room about 25 square feet which will be much needed as I will now be spending much more time at home not working 4 nights a week (12 hour shifts) and sleeping thru' 4 days each week.

Plym Bridge is based on the Passenger Station at Plympton prior to Dr.Beechings axe falling in the'60s, as can be seen in the plan which is Approx. 10ft X 2ft6ins it will incorporate a 10 road traverser (that I found on ebayhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Preset-Stepped-Traverser-Table/282374463530?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=581500960312&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Preset-Stepped-Traverser-Table/282374463530?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=581500960312&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649)) I originally had thought of using a nelevator but 10 roads @£80 seems a better proposition than 20 roads @ £1000+ especially as I do not really need the automated side of the nelevator. The basic layout is a figure of 8 with about 2ins max hight the station being on a slight gradient which will not really effect my operations as my main thing is to watch trains go by. The points will be servo operated with auto polarity switching using the set up from Hattonshttp://www.hattons.co.uk/62436/ANE_Model_A002Smart_4_Servo_control_operation_set_SmartFrog_complete_with_switches_control_board_d/StockDetail.aspx (http://www.hattons.co.uk/62436/ANE_Model_A002Smart_4_Servo_control_operation_set_SmartFrog_complete_with_switches_control_board_d/StockDetail.aspx) manually switched, the Loco control will be DCC,This layout will let me really indulge in my preference for scenic work, especially if I fit a drop in scenic section over the traverser. The layout will be WR based and of no real fixed era, but Rule 1 will apply.

I belieive this project will get underway the end of October/begining of November and work starting on the layout in the new year.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on August 28, 2017, 06:08:21 pm
Looks fascinating, Di, and I look forward to seeing it develop with lots of pics please.
My only change to the plan would be to make a right hand point part of the inner curve at the top LH side and have a left hand one on the outer oval to make the crossover as that would remove the awkward 'S' on the crossover.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Railwaygun on August 28, 2017, 06:26:30 pm

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 a 10 road traverser (that I found on ebayhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Preset-Stepped-Traverser-Table/282374463530?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=581500960312&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Preset-Stepped-Traverser-Table/282374463530?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=581500960312&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649[/url]))


the turntable traverser looks fun:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Model-Railway-Turntable-Traverser-00-N-gauge-/282399017348?var=&hash=item41c04b0984:m:mpGfKCOYO7iSXO0pch96TuA (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Model-Railway-Turntable-Traverser-00-N-gauge-/282399017348?var=&hash=item41c04b0984:m:mpGfKCOYO7iSXO0pch96TuA)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Train Waiting on August 28, 2017, 07:20:51 pm
That's a very interesting plan, Di, and much more interesting than the normal 'half-an-oval' layout that one so often sees.  The traverser enables the fiddle yard to be smaller, thus giving much more space for the 'real railway'.  All best wishes for a very happy retirement when it comes.

John.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 28, 2017, 10:01:31 pm
 :hellosign: Very nice plan Di, look forward to developments
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Zogbert Splod on August 29, 2017, 05:16:35 pm
This is interesting.  Can I assume that, since you mentioned a 'Nelly' as a passing thought, that the bottom of your picture will be the back of the layout? (against a wall possibly?)  My concern then would be that you will have to allow for the traverser when in its 'out' position.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/4202-290817171450.png)
The technical aspects of a traverser are fascinating to me and I look forward to hearing more about this project.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 29, 2017, 05:21:02 pm
This is interesting.  Can I assume that, since you mentioned a 'Nelly' as a passing thought, that the bottom of your picture will be the back of the layout? (against a wall possibly?)  My concern then would be that you will have to allow for the traverser when in its 'out' position.
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/4202-290817171450.png[/url])
The technical aspects of a traverser are fascinating to me and I look forward to hearing more about this project.

No the traverser is at front.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: 25901JFM on August 31, 2017, 11:37:08 am
An interesting idea that I had not considered.  I will be watching this with interest because I have a similar area available to me.  Although I also have the option for L, U shape or even with some "jiggery pokery" all the way round the (odd shaped) room, which also needs to retain the desk, computer, printer/scanner and two drawer filing cabinet.  Good luck with your project and enjoy your retirement.
John
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: MrDobilina on September 01, 2017, 01:45:34 pm
My only thought/ concern is what gradiant will be on those curves. anything much more than 2.5 % and a good portion of locos will struggle.

Otherwise I love this idea!
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on September 16, 2017, 04:11:36 pm

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This is a 3D representation of the track plan for the proposed layout.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: keithbythe sea on September 25, 2017, 07:33:11 am
Looks good Di, with plenty of scope for scenic work. My only comment would be whether you could make the right hand loop a little bigger? Is there a chance with the current arrangement that you will see the front and back of a long train in this section?

Welcome to your new career of retirement, it's great!
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on November 14, 2017, 10:46:19 am
Just a Quick update on the project, I have ordered the base boards which should be with me in a couple of weeks, I am in the middle of deconstructing the OO (orribly oversize ;) )layout to make room in my small flat for the new project, I am slowly selling off my OO collection I may also sell off my t-gauge collection, I will keep you all posted on progress as and when there is any.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 02, 2017, 04:39:20 pm
A quick update, my baseboard builder says my boards should be with me in the coming week, I have stripped the OO layout down am busy clearing up the mess and reorganizing the room. I am also unusually for me selling of my OO collection.(I need to really stop hoarding model railway stuff).
One minor flaw Hattons have run out of wood sleeper code55 track and I can't get that weird Rails :censored: site to tell me what I need to know.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on December 02, 2017, 09:09:10 pm
@Ditape (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799)

Does this help, Di?

https://railsofsheffield.com/sl300f-30-yards-code-55-finescale-n-s-flexible-track-wooden-sleeper-JJJA8023
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 02, 2017, 09:41:29 pm
@Ditape ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799[/url])

Does this help, Di?

[url]https://railsofsheffield.com/sl300f-30-yards-code-55-finescale-n-s-flexible-track-wooden-sleeper-JJJA8023[/url] ([url]https://railsofsheffield.com/sl300f-30-yards-code-55-finescale-n-s-flexible-track-wooden-sleeper-JJJA8023[/url])

thank you, it has also helped me work out how the site works. :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 06, 2017, 01:51:17 pm

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Graham Hitchings g.hitchings6@gmail.comDelivered my baseboards this lunch time they look excellent, complete with all the nuts and bolts to connect the 4 sections together and comprehensive instuctions.
I look forward to starting my build in the next couple of days,I have ordered my track from Rails of Sheffield and all my points and various other bits and pieces from Hattons and e-bay so I have a busy modelling time ahead.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on December 06, 2017, 03:36:52 pm
Let the 'heavy' construction begin :claphappy:
Good luck, Di.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Train Waiting on December 06, 2017, 05:02:10 pm
That looks like great progress, Di.

Let the fun commence!

All best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on December 06, 2017, 06:14:22 pm
I shall look forward to watching your new plan come to life.

Wishing you a long and happy retirement. It comes highly recommended!

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on December 06, 2017, 09:06:16 pm
@Ditape (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799)
Just wondering if you have any firm plans yet for how you are going to do your traverser? What materials will it be made from? What will it slide on? How long is it?, and how many roads?
Im always interested to see how people do fiddle yards and not many people go for traversers in N.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 06, 2017, 10:11:13 pm
My traverser was built for me, using 9 mm MDF for the table,sidelining on horizontally mounted drawer runners, indexed using a sprung ball catch, it has 10 roads each 4 ft long, by Graham Hitchings.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on December 06, 2017, 10:12:48 pm
Thanks @Ditape (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799), Im looking forward to seeing this develop.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: weave on December 06, 2017, 10:15:55 pm
Hi,

All sounds like it's going to plan. Looking forward to the build.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 07, 2017, 04:08:04 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/3799-071217160454.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59008)
The first and biggest baseboard section assembled and in position,1 down 3 to go.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on December 07, 2017, 04:26:50 pm
Very neat indeed. Certainly puts my woodworking skills to shame.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 07, 2017, 04:39:14 pm
Very neat indeed. Certainly puts my woodworking skills to shame.
Mine to, that's why I had Graham Hitchings build them all I have to do is bolt the components together.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on December 07, 2017, 07:06:59 pm
Hi @Ditape (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799)
Is that a plywood top, as opposed to the legs which are clearly MDF?
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 07, 2017, 08:02:59 pm
No it's MDF thru' out.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 07, 2017, 08:23:26 pm
 :hellosign: Very very nice Di, looking good
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 08, 2017, 05:07:22 pm
The goodies arrived from Hattons and Rails of Sheffield and I have assembled 2 more sections of the baseboard including the traverser alittle fine tuneing to the joint between the first section and the traverser and it will be all systems go for the last small section of baseboard and then the fun begins the auctual build.
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Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on December 08, 2017, 05:21:22 pm
It'll be good to see how the traverser works once you've got some track down, Di.

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 10, 2017, 10:10:04 am
Baseboard assembly is now complete, the backscene painted, awaiting the delivery tommorrow of some foam boards so I can begin terra forming ready for track laying.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/3799-101217100821.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59101)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/3799-101217100858.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59102)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/3799-101217100937.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59103)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on December 10, 2017, 10:19:19 am
Hi @Ditape (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799)
Thats looking nice. I presume that is the traverser in the first and second pictures?  Are you happy with that? Does it run smoothly? Are the boards level, it might just be the trick of the photo, but it looks like there is a slight incline from front to back? Obviously that will be corrected before you lay your track, but you need to avoid them bumps over the transitions.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 10, 2017, 10:25:51 am
Hi @Ditape ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799[/url])
Thats looking nice. I presume that is the traverser in the first and second pictures?  Are you happy with that? Does it run smoothly? Are the boards level, it might just be the trick of the photo, but it looks like there is a slight incline from front to back? Obviously that will be corrected before you lay your track, but you need to avoid them bumps over the transitions.
Cheers
Kirky

You are correct that is indeed the traverser and it runs smoothly, but I will see how smooth it really is when it's loaded. The boards are all flat and level acording to my long spirit level :).
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on December 10, 2017, 10:29:47 am
Excellent @Ditape (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799), love the back scene btw.
Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 12, 2017, 06:48:36 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/3799-121217184740.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59216)

Plymbridge:-Track laying has begun the first 12 yards down and if I say so myself a 10 road traverser is a impresive sight. The Traverser needed a little fettling as the indexing was not quite right as supplied.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: JohnN on December 12, 2017, 08:14:30 pm
It feels good to start getting track down doesn't  it.  :D

I've never seen a traverser at the front before but will certinly follow this with interest.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 13, 2017, 04:29:36 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/3799-131217162221.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59240)

Plymbridge:- To-day I finnished laying the track on the traverser deck and the lefthand exits, I have also set up a train to demonstrate a typical train, 8 coaches and a loco.I would also like to say that anyone with some tracklaying to do should invest in a set of Xuron track cutters (the best £14.00 I have spent), in the past I have used a dremel with a diamond cutting disk and a razor saw the Xuron beats these methods hands down.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on December 13, 2017, 04:59:20 pm
Looks good Di . Rapid progress.
I’d support what you say about Xuron cutters. They mske life so very simple.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on December 13, 2017, 05:12:37 pm
Looks good Di . Rapid progress.
I’d support what you say about Xuron cutters. They mske life so very simple.

Ditto on both counts!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on December 14, 2017, 08:33:41 am
Wow, @Ditape (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799) thats some quick track laying that youve done there. The traverser looks fantastic.
Have you glued down the track? I presume you wont have used track pins in mdf?

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 14, 2017, 03:50:57 pm
Wow, @Ditape ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799[/url]) thats some quick track laying that youve done there. The traverser looks fantastic.
Have you glued down the track? I presume you wont have used track pins in mdf?

Cheers
Kirky


Yes I always use PVA it works for me.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 16, 2017, 05:29:51 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/3799-161217172840.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59361)

Plymbridge:- before laying more track I have had to raise the level to  allow the figure of 8 and station to be laid out.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bob Tidbury on December 16, 2017, 06:18:09 pm
You seem.to be getting on pretty fast with this latest layout Diane youll have it finished in no time and then plenty of time to relax and run trains.
Bob Tidbury.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 19, 2017, 12:05:19 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/3799-191217120453.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59477)

Plymbridge:- A little more progress over the weekend, the start of the station area with the west end throat and the upper level area for the town/village.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 23, 2017, 09:46:23 pm
Plymbridge:- I have been busy with the soldering iron and electric string and I have wired the traverser and the west (lefthand) gradient. The gradient has been tested and one of my Warships happily pulls a 8 coach train up the gradient and even one of my Dapol Pannier tanks (not renowned for great pulling power) managed 3 coaches with no problems, so I would say I have the gradient about right.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on December 23, 2017, 09:54:39 pm
Sounds like a success to me, Di. Maybe a vid when you're ready? ;)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Mustermark on December 23, 2017, 11:50:07 pm
Great progress Di.  Congrats on retirement too.  I can't wait for mine.  So many projects, so little time!  This is inspiring.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 26, 2017, 08:47:11 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/3799-261217204613.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59755)

Plymbridge:- With the usual selection of Christmas repeats and regular OLD  films I have done a bit more on the layout,I have wired the crossover at the west end of the station, fitted the next section of upper level for the Town/Village and laid the running lines for the station.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 27, 2017, 11:56:51 am
 :-[ :-[ :dunce: :dunce: Feeling STUPID alert, went to test yesterdays wiring and got a imediate short, I have crossed the poles of my DCC buss so it's out soldering iron and rewire the crossover.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on December 27, 2017, 03:23:18 pm
Ah! Welcome to the Silly Club!  :wave:

I received a free lifetime membership some time back.  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 27, 2017, 04:11:01 pm


Wiring fixed, (must be more attentive in the future :D )
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on December 28, 2017, 10:10:27 am
Glad you got it sorted, Di, and thanks for the vid.
I really like those plain green Warships :heart2:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: mk1gtstu on December 28, 2017, 10:23:10 am
That's a nice layout taking shape :thumbsup:

Cheers, Stu
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Zogbert Splod on December 28, 2017, 02:45:34 pm
There is something about a model moving at slow speed, it may actually be a large part of the difference between a layout and a train set.  There is also something about soldering irons with yellow handles.....
Its all looking good.....
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 28, 2017, 03:12:08 pm
There is something about a model moving at slow speed, it may actually be a large part of the difference between a layout and a train set. 

I could not agree more I have seen many a potentially great layout ruined by trains doing 200mph+.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on December 28, 2017, 03:16:42 pm
Yes, great to see trains running at sensible speeds. Always one of my bugbears.
Cracking bit of music too
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on December 29, 2017, 07:22:41 pm
Plymbridge:-With a bit of fettling the down line joins the up line in being tested and passed it's acceptance inspection, so it is on with the second half of the tracklaying project.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 02, 2018, 05:49:26 pm
Plymbridge:- The permant way gang have started work on the Eastern end traverser approaches, using the faithful old green warship to check alignment and running.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 05, 2018, 03:49:29 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/3799-050118154858.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=60206)

Plymbridge:- I have built the east end gradient over the last couple of days, the next stage will be the East end of the station which features a crossover and two sidings which  were the banker holding lines at Plymton on which this layout is based .
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on January 05, 2018, 04:06:55 pm
Looks good.
Are we going ro see a girder bridge of some sort where the lines cross?
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 05, 2018, 04:44:03 pm
Looks good.
Are we going ro see a girder bridge of some sort where the lines cross?
not sure yet I have not decide wether to have a bridge or extend the tunnel entrance for the traverser.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on January 05, 2018, 04:53:01 pm
Looks good.
Are we going ro see a girder bridge of some sort where the lines cross?
not sure yet I have not decide wether to have a bridge or extend the tunnel entrance for the traverser.
We shall await your decision with interest.
Sounds lme you have a similar modelling approach to me, start building and see how it develops as you go?
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: 25901JFM on January 05, 2018, 05:42:49 pm
Starting to take shape nicely.  Looking forward to seeing how this develops.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on January 05, 2018, 10:41:21 pm
start building and see how it develops as you go?

I thought it was just me, (can't tell you how many times track has been put in place,  :no: lifted, put in place, lifted - you get the picture).  :)  Thank goodness it is Kato unitrack  :sweat:.

The layout is coming along nicely Di.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 07, 2018, 04:53:38 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/3799-070118165135.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=60291)

Plymbridge:- I have been playing around with the track for the eastend of the station,I have decided to extend the traverser tunnel rather than have a bridge over the lower level this gives me more room to play around with senic ideas for the down line ex-banker storage line.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 08, 2018, 12:39:14 pm
Plymbridge:- I am a idiot, I went to start fitting the peco 3 way points and discovered that you can not use normal peco point motors :censored:, you need the extended shaft and mounting plates as they do not fit directly to the point as is my normal method, so work has been halted on the track laying whilst new bits are aquired. :dunce: :confused2: ??? :veryangry:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 11, 2018, 05:56:43 pm

I have completed laying the Down line,and it seems to work. I hope have the up line running at the weekend, then on to ballasting and scenics.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on January 11, 2018, 06:21:42 pm
You're setting a cracking pace, Di.

Looking forward to watching the scenics develop but please do remember that retirement is meant to last for ages and ages!  :)

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 11, 2018, 09:18:41 pm
I thought I ought to test the gradients under full load.

Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 12, 2018, 03:09:32 pm
For anyone who might be interested a n-gauge Grafar Class 42 Warship will haul a 12 coach train up a 14 inch radius slope of about 2% with little or no wheel slip,so do not be affraid to include gradients on your layout.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: 25901JFM on January 12, 2018, 04:35:44 pm
That is worth knowing.  May I ask if you are intending to use any steam loco's on your new layout?  If you are I would be interested to know how they cope with the gradients, especially any tender driven ones.
 :thankyousign:
John
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 12, 2018, 04:43:48 pm
That is worth knowing.  May I ask if you are intending to use any steam loco's on your new layout?  If you are I would be interested to know how they cope with the gradients, especially any tender driven ones.
 :thankyousign:
John
I have some Kettles I will trial one or two later and post the result.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: JohnN on January 12, 2018, 04:47:55 pm
Looking good. You certainly are maintaining a decent pace building this layout.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 13, 2018, 10:42:13 am
1st kettle test a Dapol Pannier tank manages 2 coaches up the grade easily but 3 is a little to much lots of wheel slip.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 13, 2018, 03:05:18 pm
Further sample of my kettles shows that a Dapol 9f hauls 8 coaches up a 14 inch radius 2% grade with no problems but the Grafar Castle can only manage 4 comfortably.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on January 13, 2018, 07:49:57 pm
Further sample of my kettles shows that a Dapol 9f hauls 8 coaches up a 14 inch radius 2% grade with no problems but the Grafar Castle can only manage 4 comfortably.

Just to be sure on that, you refer to the old Farish one and not the newer Bachmann Farish version, Di?
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 13, 2018, 07:51:40 pm
Further sample of my kettles shows that a Dapol 9f hauls 8 coaches up a 14 inch radius 2% grade with no problems but the Grafar Castle can only manage 4 comfortably.

Just to be sure on that, you refer to the old Farish one and not the newer Bachmann Farish version, Di?
No the new one with sound.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on January 13, 2018, 07:53:45 pm
Oh dear. The poor haulage on inclines by the newer Castle have been discussed :hmmm:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Hailstone on January 14, 2018, 12:38:08 am
Further sample of my kettles shows that a Dapol 9f hauls 8 coaches up a 14 inch radius 2% grade with no problems but the Grafar Castle can only manage 4 comfortably.

try putting a strip of lead under the keeper plate (I use glue and glaze to stick it on so it can be removed without damaging the loco) it makes a bit of a difference

regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 17, 2018, 05:40:00 pm


I have now completed laying the main lines and both are working as can be seen, I suppose I ought to think about ballasting now,I do not enjoy that prospect.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 18, 2018, 09:46:39 pm
The first ballasting shift by the permanent way gang has made a fair amount of progress.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/3799-180118214524.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=60731)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 19, 2018, 05:55:37 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/3799-190118175429.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=60763)

The permanent way gang have been at work again,  the East end incline is now fully ballasted. No work will probably be done tommorrow as it is the Calne show.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 20, 2018, 06:33:01 pm
The track on the Eastern end incline has been cleaned and fettled and is now working OK.

I went to the Calne Model railway show today,it appeared to be more a model railway market the trade stands seemed to take up more of the hall than the layouts, there were no real bargians to be had but I managed to pick up a few come in handy bits and pieces, what n gauge there was was more or less full RRP, and the second hand prices for what little there was would make your eyes water.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: JohnN on January 20, 2018, 09:21:21 pm
Feels like there's been a real dirth of bargains for a couple of years now. Last time I can remember coming away from a show feeling like I'd got a bargain was 2014.  :(
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 21, 2018, 08:26:29 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/3799-210118202207.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=60844)

A  indoor day today as it has been raining all day, I have assembled my metcalfe tunnel mouths I picked up yesterday @ the Calne show, I have weathered one using pencil and a damp finger, I think the effect is fairly good.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bob Tidbury on January 21, 2018, 09:20:59 pm
In reply to JohnN I did pick up a bargain at the Chiltern show it was a Lyddle End building for only a fiver its a sort of barn and  it will be on the new board as a Corn and Seed Merchants .
So there are bargains out there still after seeing some of the prices these building are going for on Ebay lately.
Sorry for pinching space on your thread Diane.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: JohnN on January 21, 2018, 09:23:28 pm
Glad to hear the odd bargain can still be found Bob.  :thumbsup:

Di, I think the pencil and damp finger technique has worked very well. Looks good.  :)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on January 22, 2018, 05:57:25 pm
Hi Di
Plym Bridge is beginning to look very good indeed. Im impressed with the haulage up your curved incline. Out of interest, what is the radii of the outside curve as featred on the Plymbridge 7 video, above? Also what is the distance from the over/under bridge to the edge of the layout, from that section in the video ?
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 22, 2018, 07:50:47 pm
Hi Di
Plym Bridge is beginning to look very good indeed. Im impressed with the haulage up your curved incline. Out of interest, what is the radii of the outside curve as featred on the Plymbridge 7 video, above? Also what is the distance from the over/under bridge to the edge of the layout, from that section in the video ?
Cheers
Kirky

Outside radius is 14inches and is about an inch from the edge of the layout and the incline length is about 8ft giving about a 2% grade.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on January 22, 2018, 08:36:25 pm
Hi Di
Plym Bridge is beginning to look very good indeed. Im impressed with the haulage up your curved incline. Out of interest, what is the radii of the outside curve as featred on the Plymbridge 7 video, above? Also what is the distance from the over/under bridge to the edge of the layout, from that section in the video ?
Cheers
Kirky


Outside radius is 14inches and is about an inch from the edge of the layout and the incline length is about 8ft giving about a 2% grade.

Thanks @Ditape (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799)
I knew I didnt ask the question properly. What is the distance from the where the tracks go over each other to the edge of the board? Presumably at least 28 inchs (2x radii) plus a bit for the straightening out?
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 22, 2018, 09:34:02 pm
Hi Di
Plym Bridge is beginning to look very good indeed. Im impressed with the haulage up your curved incline. Out of interest, what is the radii of the outside curve as featred on the Plymbridge 7 video, above? Also what is the distance from the over/under bridge to the edge of the layout, from that section in the video ?
Cheers
Kirky


Outside radius is 14inches and is about an inch from the edge of the layout and the incline length is about 8ft giving about a 2% grade.

Thanks @Ditape ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799[/url])
I knew I didnt ask the question properly. What is the distance from the where the tracks go over each other to the edge of the board? Presumably at least 28 inchs (2x radii) plus a bit for the straightening out?
Cheers
Kirky

Look at the track plan at the begining of the topic the distance from the front about4" from rear about 26" :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 23, 2018, 04:52:26 pm
Plymbridge:- Another Calne Show purchase the bridge in Plymbridge rougthly in place the surrounding areas needs to be built up.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/3799-230118165152.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=60939)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 24, 2018, 07:17:59 pm


PLYMBRIDGE:-The Ground works team have been hard at it today, terra forming has begun at the East end incline.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on January 24, 2018, 07:23:51 pm
Great to see a train powering up that incline!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 27, 2018, 12:35:42 pm
Plymbridge:-I have been busy building the new laser cut Metcalfe Country Station kit(they laser cut parts are a great improvement especially the window sills),This is so I have a base to design the platforms about, I have only completed the Station shelter for the down side, so far, adding gutters and downpipes,& notice boards makes a big difference.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/3799-270118123448.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61117)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: JohnN on January 27, 2018, 12:58:55 pm
The already good Metcalfe kits certainly seem to have taken another step fforward recently.

Looking good Di.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on January 27, 2018, 02:03:58 pm
Looks great, Di.
Can I ask whose guttering/downpipes you used please?
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 27, 2018, 02:25:08 pm
Looks great, Di.
Can I ask whose guttering/downpipes you used please?
The gutters are Plastrut 1/2 round 1.5mm and the down pipes are similar sized plastic coated piano wire.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on January 27, 2018, 02:50:45 pm
looks great.
It’s surprising waht a difference little details such as noticeboards and drain pipis make,
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 28, 2018, 10:13:51 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/3799-280118220858.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61263)

I have been busy again today,I have completed the build of the Metcalfe Country Station main building adding gutters,downpipes,notice boards and to the Station masters house nets and curtains. Now I have the Station buildings done I can start layingout the platforms.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 30, 2018, 03:31:14 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/3799-300118152714.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61358)

Plymbridge:- This is the proposed layout of the down platform, the up platform will be of a similar length.They should be able to hold a 8 coach train with its loco.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on January 30, 2018, 03:38:10 pm
At the risk of being repetitive, I do like curved platforms :heart2:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on January 30, 2018, 03:53:38 pm
At the risk of being repetitive, I do like curved platforms :heart2:
I’d never have guessed !
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: David Asquith on January 30, 2018, 05:27:31 pm
At the risk of being repetitive, I do like curved platforms :heart2:
But not track close and parallel to baseboard edges ;)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: DaveGlew on January 31, 2018, 02:10:48 pm
The first and biggest baseboard section assembled and in position,1 down 3 to go.

Nice woodwork - I must try to emulate !
Good luck with this retirement project - I just retired as well and the old cliché is so true - "how did I ever have time to go to work".
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 31, 2018, 02:25:07 pm
The first and biggest baseboard section assembled and in position,1 down 3 to go.

Nice woodwork - I must try to emulate !
Good luck with this retirement project - I just retired as well and the old cliché is so true - "how did I ever have time to go to work".
I can only claim to have bolted the 4 sub boards and the legs together the actual woodwork is definitely not me I am a prize winning wood butcher ;) .
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on January 31, 2018, 08:49:13 pm


I have been busy again today, I have partially built the Down side of the station and I have been playing with my new video editing package Power Director 16 Ultimate from Cyberlink.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Zogbert Splod on February 01, 2018, 01:56:14 am
That layout is amazing!  You are gonna get it finished tooooo soon!  You know the rules - when a retirement layout is finished you have to go back to work!  Retirement is OVER!

On the other side of things - PD16 is great isn't it!  I've been using the PD stuff for a while now, since v12.  It's so versatile.  You are gonna love it if you don't already.....
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on February 01, 2018, 08:00:10 am
Nice slinky curves through the station!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bealman on February 01, 2018, 08:11:52 am
Agree. Cool stuff!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bealman on February 01, 2018, 08:31:25 am
I'm a huge fan of curved platforms too, by the way, but you have to be careful with 08 gronks!  :beers:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2018, 09:45:05 am
Interesting to see the trains crest the rise next to the class 31 - almost like the top of the Lickey bank.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bealman on February 01, 2018, 09:48:40 am
Staying with the eight theme...

I believe the Lickey Bankers were 0-8-0?
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2018, 09:52:53 am
All sorts of banking engines used, George, but I think mainly the larger panniers (anything up to 3 of them at a time) and, of course, the specifically designed 0-10-0 'Big Bertha'.
Sorry to go off on a tangerine, Di :-[
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bealman on February 01, 2018, 11:01:30 am
Yes, I stand corrected. I was thinking of Big Bertha, which was indeed an 0-10-0.

Thanks, Mick, and sorry Di and everyone for getting off course!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Hailstone on February 01, 2018, 12:16:06 pm
The sharp dip where the class 31 stands would be a bit of a worry as some wagons may uncouple there (mainly Peco) and an unmodified Dapol Schools would come to grief as well. otherwise, looking good Diane.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: 25901JFM on February 01, 2018, 12:37:54 pm
Good progress there Di.  It may be the camera but it does appear that you have a bit of a hump going on there on the point work.  Possibly caused by the card that covers the holes in the board underneath the points?  I agree with Alex you may have an issue with Peco wagons uncoupling when passing over that area if that is the case.

On the subject of the Lickey bankers; going beyond steam, 3 Hymeks coupled together were used for a while followed by the longer term use of pairs of 37's.  Going back on topic Di could justify double heading with suitable pilot loco's to assist trains over the South Devon banks between Newton Abbot & Plymouth...
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 01, 2018, 04:38:29 pm


Todays progress, I have completed the down side platform and fitted lights, I have also fettled the track to eliminate the marked hump just after the points in the station throat.  The up platform is next but first I have to lay the banker storage siding/bay line on the up side, then I will ballast the station area.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: DaveGlew on February 01, 2018, 04:42:10 pm
Looking good Di........ I'm beginning to wonder what you will be doing in March as this looks like it'll be done by then. :-)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 01, 2018, 04:54:59 pm
Looking good Di........ I'm beginning to wonder what you will be doing in March as this looks like it'll be done by then. :-)
It has taken 6 months to get this far, and I have barely scratched the surface as far as scenics go, I have the other 1/2 of the station to build, the town on both sides of the track,the country areas at either end and then there is all the small details to add, people, cars, animals, hedges and fences and all the usual junk and bits and pieces that go with life.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on February 01, 2018, 04:56:30 pm
Really coming along nicely.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2018, 04:57:38 pm
Yeah - but at this rate what will you do next week? ;D :)
(It's probably more some of us a bit glacial in our progress :-[)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 03, 2018, 12:04:43 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/02/03/up.jpg)
PLYMBRIDGE:-This is my proposed layout for the up platform and bay/banker holding area. I have also added a platform mounted signal box to the down platform.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: JohnN on February 03, 2018, 12:38:12 pm
It's coming along a treat. What's the building at the bottom of the up platform Di?
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 03, 2018, 01:26:55 pm
It's coming along a treat. What's the building at the bottom of the up platform Di?
It is my scratch built attempt at the up side building that was @ Plympton.

Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bob Tidbury on February 03, 2018, 01:33:21 pm
As newportnobby says slow down Di this is supposed to be your retirement project not a hurry up to finish before an exhibition type job at the rate your going you will need a new idea by the summer .
I.actually enjoy doing the scenery on my layout and let  my mates run the layout .but Im not as fast as you its taken me over a year to do the new branch line but its on its way to being finished just odds and ends like a bit of fencing etc and the biggest job is a main road about three feet long going acrooss from the main layout and in front of the Safari Park.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 03, 2018, 01:39:17 pm
As newportnobby says slow down Di this is supposed to be your retirement project not a hurry up to finish before an exhibition type job at the rate your going you will need a new idea by the summer .
I.actually enjoy doing the scenery on my layout and let  my mates run the layout .but Im not as fast as you its taken me over a year to do the new branch line but its on its way to being finished just odds and ends like a bit of fencing etc and the biggest job is a main road about three feet long going acrooss from the main layout and in front of the Safari Park.
Bob Tidbury

That building is old build from the initial planning stages about 2 years back.http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33459.msg386236#msg386236 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33459.msg386236#msg386236)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: JohnN on February 03, 2018, 01:46:20 pm
Thanks for the informative reply Di. You've made a great job of replicating it. It's got a very distinctive roof hasn't it.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: DaveGlew on February 03, 2018, 01:46:42 pm

What have you used for platforms Di? Are they Metcalfe?
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 03, 2018, 01:53:36 pm
[quote author=Ditape link=topic=38593.msg489293
PLYMBRIDGE:-This is my proposed layout for the up platform and bay/banker holding area. I have also added a platform mounted signal box to the down platform.
What have you used for platforms Di? Are the Metcalfe?
[/quote]
Yes the platforms are from the Metcalfe kits.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 04, 2018, 03:34:06 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/3799-040218153248.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61556)

The up side platform has been built today, I now have to connect up all the lights for both platforms and buildings before fixing in place and ballasting.

Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 05, 2018, 01:54:18 pm


Watching trains go by, Quite day today chipped, run in and playing with my new warship Hercules.  :)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 06, 2018, 06:04:29 pm

Today I have chipped 3 more recently acquired loco's namely a Dapol Class 22 Baby Warship, Dapol  Class 121 Bubble car and a Dapol Class 52 Western . All have been fitted with Liasdcc 6 pin decoders which are cheap and cheerful but work very well and give good control and slow speed running,  to me so I do not see any advantage in paying £30+ for fancy decoders that may have extra functions that I don't use.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 11, 2018, 04:18:45 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/02/11/fb1.jpg)

Today I have added a Ratio Modular Footbridge to Plymbridge , I like the kit it is the best footbridge I have tried so far.


Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on February 11, 2018, 04:22:25 pm
Yes, that’s looking good. I too like the ratio footbridge - it sits well on the station.
It seems that the local populace have a liking for purple cars!
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on February 11, 2018, 04:30:04 pm
Yes, that’s looking good. I too like the ratio footbridge - it sits well on the station.
It seems that the local populace have a liking for purple cars!

I agree with Martin on both counts.
Purple People EatersCarriers Rule!
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: JohnN on February 11, 2018, 05:43:48 pm
The footbridge looks great. Has a real Southern feel about it, probably helped by the colours.  :D
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: keithbythe sea on February 13, 2018, 07:19:51 am
Great progress Di, looking really good.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 14, 2018, 02:40:59 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/02/14/ees.jpg)
I have been busy over the last few days starting on the scenics on the East end of the layout as it is the most difficult area to reach and needs to be completed before I add the control desk which will make even harder to reach.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Zogbert Splod on February 14, 2018, 04:33:17 pm
The speed of your progress on this project is affecting my clothing!  Woops!  There go my socks again - blown off!
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: mk1gtstu on February 14, 2018, 04:50:26 pm
Looking good!  :thumbsup: Your getting on well with this layout!

Cheers, Stu
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: weave on February 14, 2018, 04:54:18 pm
Wow and Whoa!

I've just gone back a page as thought I'd missed something.

Great stuff Di but you're putting us all to shame.

Keep up the good work (but slowwwwly  :))

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: JohnN on February 14, 2018, 06:01:55 pm
Wow, you're motoring Di. Looking great too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 18, 2018, 07:37:32 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/02/18/ees1.jpg)

PLYMBRIDGE:- I have progressed the East end scenic a bit more this week, The forest has developed at the back, some trackside fencing has been done, another set of cottages built and embedded in the ground, I still have the window sills to add to the cottages.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 21, 2018, 06:20:12 pm


Plymbridge:-I have been busy over the last few days, the East end of Plymbridge is now more or less complete, I have noticed I need to run the mini vac over it again I have missed so overspill of static grass. No doubt I will find lots of small details to add as time goes by.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: DaveGlew on February 21, 2018, 06:33:45 pm
Full steam (........ well diesel) ahead now
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bob Tidbury on February 21, 2018, 07:14:13 pm
Diane you put us all  to shame the speed at which you build your layouts  now youve retired you should start your own business up building layouts for those that dont have the time or skill to build their own ,you would make a lot of money ,but dont tell the taxman hes had enough money from.you all your working life.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 23, 2018, 01:59:42 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/02/23/class37.jpg)

A new arrival on Plymbridge a Green Class 37.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: keithbythe sea on February 23, 2018, 05:08:40 pm
Just caught up with the video Di, great and  :thankyousign:

Nice music too, what is it please?

Based on your terrific rate of progress, is there something that you are not telling us about your retirement? You're not planning a return to work are you?   :D If you are, don't do it!!!!
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 23, 2018, 06:01:27 pm
Nice music too, what is it please?

The music is one of the many tracks available to Powerdirector users from their server, called Dock Rock.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on February 25, 2018, 03:40:55 pm
PLYMBRIDGE:-
 (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/02/25/eed.jpg)
This weekends effort has gone into a bit more ground work, the east end rural area is now roughly linked to what will be the town by a gentle rolling hill side. I have yet to decide what will fill this space fields, farm or up market housing, I am drifting towards open fields with a road thru' the middle.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on March 01, 2018, 11:32:47 am
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/03/01/rh1.jpg)

March is here and I have just about finished the rolling hill section on the east end of the layout, the next steps will be to fit the control desk as I will not have to reach over this end of the layout to often now so the control desk will not cause to much of an obstruction. That is about 1/3 of the scenics done, the town/ village section is next.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on March 05, 2018, 04:08:19 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/03/05/t1.jpg)

This week I have made a start on the town section. Can you find Tom (as in Tom & Gerry).
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on March 05, 2018, 04:25:28 pm
Spotted him.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on March 05, 2018, 08:54:49 pm
Likewise :D
A bit like trying to find Terence Cuneo's mouse in his paintings ;D
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Phoenix on March 06, 2018, 12:37:18 am
You just reminded me of when I used to work part time in a book shop.

Now and then we would get "Where's Wally ?" books in, and I got great delight from finding Wally, then carefully drawing on a beard, colouring his jumper different, or somehow disguising him so whoever bought the book had no chance of finding him  :D :D :D

Sorry to go off on a tangent

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Zogbert Splod on March 06, 2018, 10:43:34 am
How did he get up there?    ???   :confusedsign:  What a naughty chap he is indeed!
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on March 06, 2018, 04:11:20 pm
He belongs to Mrs. Oldfield and is on his way home after a raid on the chippy for a tasty piece of cod, she is waiting at the window to let him in.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Zogbert Splod on March 06, 2018, 06:56:38 pm
Gotcha!  Yeah, the moggie would prefer a nice piece of cod to the fruit and veggies at home.  Go Tom!  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 07, 2018, 05:48:01 pm
You just reminded me of when I used to work part time in a book shop.

Now and then we would get "Where's Wally ?" books in, and I got great delight from finding Wally, then carefully drawing on a beard, colouring his jumper different, or somehow disguising him so whoever bought the book had no chance of finding him  :D :D :D

Sorry to go off on a tangent

Kevin

 :beers:

Arrest this man. I bought just such a book (that's my excuse anyway)... :veryangry:

Got the cat though Di.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on March 09, 2018, 11:33:29 am
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/03/09/ee.jpg)

I have not done much this week, so I thought I would treat you to a overall view of the East end of my layout.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on March 16, 2018, 05:27:06 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/03/16/fs.jpg)

This week I have been working on Fore Street, the buildings for the far side have been built and placed on the layout to check that I have enough, the positioning is by no means final.

(For the none West Country folk Fore Street is the local equivalent of High Street.)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on March 23, 2018, 03:15:16 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/03/23/t2ae116.jpg)

PLYMBRIDGE:-
This week a start on the terraced house area of the north side of town has been made.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on March 23, 2018, 04:20:47 pm
The Metcalfe pub kits looks nicely placed.  :beers:

What are you going to do with all that spare time when you've finished the layout - next week!?

I'm 3 years in and still haven't ballasted half the track.  :)

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on March 23, 2018, 05:17:11 pm
What are you going to do with all that spare time when you've finished the layout - next week!?
Dave G
  :hmmm: Play trains, build my back log of NGS kits, play trains again. ;)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on March 23, 2018, 05:59:44 pm
What are you going to do with all that spare time when you've finished the layout - next week!?
Dave G
  :hmmm: Play trains, build my back log of NGS kits, play trains again. ;)

Great plan!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on March 23, 2018, 06:01:12 pm
I can not see the receptacle on the wall of the pub for the cigarette ends!  :)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on March 23, 2018, 06:04:25 pm
I can not see the receptacle on the wall of the pub for the cigarette ends!  :)

Ooh! That's so picky!!  :D

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 24, 2018, 07:33:52 am
Nice work Di. I think that there is room in your plan for another layout (or two or three...)  ;)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on March 25, 2018, 12:40:19 pm


I invoke Rule 1. The Blue Pullman is the right era but never ran in the west country at least not in this livery which is the one I like best, the Blue Pullman is my favourite DMU and unfortunately one has not been preserved in real life, I would love to see a full size replica built like Tornado but being a diesel I will probably be in my wooden box before anyone even thinks about such a project.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on March 25, 2018, 05:25:45 pm
That'll get @Bealman (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) all unnecessary :D :D
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bealman on March 25, 2018, 09:35:07 pm
How good is that!  :thumbsup:

Thank you!  :beers:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on March 27, 2018, 12:13:16 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/3799-270318121119.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63461)

The latest arrivals at Plymbridge, 2 Class 42 warships in Maroon. :claphappy:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 31, 2018, 07:16:08 am
Nice locos Di.

I don’t need more, but maybe you have convinced me that one of these would be a good addition to Sonmel... :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on April 01, 2018, 09:35:30 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/04/01/ts1.jpg)

The townscape for Plymbridge is developing gradually, it is still in draft form at the moment the final layout for the town will be decided when enough buildings have been completed.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on April 09, 2018, 12:12:04 am
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/04/09/ts2a39bc.jpg)
Even more terraced houses built this week, I am getting bored building them, I will need to find some thing else to do for a break.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 09, 2018, 12:20:12 am
([url]http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/04/09/ts2a39bc.jpg[/url])
Even more terraced houses built this week, I am getting bored building them, I will need to find some thing else to do for a break.


 :hellosign: Ok Di, time to run the trains again, superb looking town  :thumbsup:
    regards Derek
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on April 09, 2018, 08:02:05 am
A very impressive collection of Metcalfe kits.
Looks good.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bealman on April 09, 2018, 08:42:51 am
Yes, I should imagine building heaps of terraced housing would become tedious, but your townscape looks great.  :thumbsup:

And let's face it, approaching any industrial town by train,  that's all I remember seeing from a kid's point of view.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on April 16, 2018, 11:26:40 am
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/04/16/ts3.jpg)

PLYMBRIDGE:- The north side of town is nearly done building wise, another PUB/Shop to build, then I need to finalise the positions and get the roads laid, greenery planted and the little people placed.
I have been given a diorama set for a WW 2 fighter service area in 1/48 scale (near enough O gauge) it contains a Mk1 Hurricane, a fuel truck, a light truck service van, a set of figures and associated ground equipment, so I will take a small break from building terraced houses and give building something in a larger scale a go.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bob Tidbury on April 16, 2018, 11:49:18 am
Allthough not N Gauge lets see some pictures of that when its finished Diane
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on April 16, 2018, 09:39:43 pm
Those Metcalfe kits do look good all together like you have them Di - I really rate Metcalfe.  :thumbsup: . And I also would like to see your WWII modelling.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on April 19, 2018, 09:59:00 pm
Those Metcalfe kits do look good all together like you have them Di - I really rate Metcalfe.  :thumbsup: . And I also would like to see your WWII modelling.
Indeed they do. Excellent modelling Di. I love the fact you can just see the trains through the town scape, just as it should be. Thank you.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 03, 2018, 02:53:30 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/03/tc1.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/NjJR)

I am back building houses and shops again, after a break dabbling in 1/48 scale plastic kit building, the north side town building (as in houses and shops) program is now complete. I am stock piling kits to start work on the South side of town.


(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/03/tc2.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/N8Dk)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on May 03, 2018, 03:59:52 pm
Looks really good but do you get fed up of building the Metcalfe kits?
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on May 03, 2018, 04:11:23 pm
If Di is anything like me - an emphatic no! I am finding, now that I am getting quite proficient in building Metcalfe kits, (okay,my opinion  :)), that they can be quite easily customised to deviate from the norm'. My next project is to take a few of the low relief terraced house kits, join them together with 'ginnels' to get round the back. If I remember correctly, someone on the forum, @Innovationgame (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091) possibly, did something on those lines.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 03, 2018, 04:58:04 pm
Looks really good but do you get fed up of building the Metcalfe kits?

That was the reason for the side trip into other forms of modelling, I got to the stage where I could build a terraced house kit with my eyes shut. ;)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 03, 2018, 05:42:05 pm
I find it quite easy to do long terraces with or without ginnels, using the plotter cutter an A4 sheet with two 6 house terrace or 4 house terraces with rear kitchen extensions takes about  5 minutes with card or about 12 minutes with Slaters plasticard.  For ginnels I just modify the basic terrace to cut only a single door and window above, imagine the end cut off one piece and stuck in between two full terraces; the 2 darker pieces on the part folded one at left are heavier card to give the rear extension a bit more to stick to, it will be further reinforced by a piece of plastic angle. The brass etches in grey primer are Peedie doors and windows. My next project will be some semis similar to the Metcalfe pair at the back, possibly with the doors front centre instead of at each side, and some without the gabled front bits.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/2855-010817193459-539451249.jpeg)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 03, 2018, 08:36:13 pm
I got to the stage where I could build a terraced house kit with my eyes shut. ;)

I've seen layouts on the exhibition circuit where they obviously did that! ::)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 07, 2018, 12:09:02 pm
PLYMBRIDGE:- Work has started on the South side of town, with the building of a block of shops. These have been built using 2 different Metcalfe kits as the only  terraced shops available are as a low relief model, the low relief shops and low relief backs do not match so I have used bits from my stock pile of spare bits and pieces to make up this building.

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/07/ss3.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/Nm11)

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/07/ss1.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/NbVA)

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/07/ss2.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/NPse)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on May 07, 2018, 12:16:27 pm
I am a great believer in 'bashing' Metcalfe kits - your efforts show what can be done Di. (Something to file away for future reference).  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 07, 2018, 02:10:22 pm
Nice kit bash Di, minor niggle, cos I'm a nit picking barsteward, why only 3 pots on one of the chimney stacks?  I've given up rolling the Metcalf pots, I use cast ones from Peedie or Scalelink
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 07, 2018, 04:32:29 pm
Nice kit bash Di, minor niggle, cos I'm a nit picking barsteward, why only 3 pots on one of the chimney stacks?  I've given up rolling the Metcalf pots, I use cast ones from Peedie or Scalelink

The Kids on the street lobbed a brick at the chimney stack and smashed one. ;)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on May 07, 2018, 04:46:16 pm
I though there'd been some home improvements (Barry Bucknell lives  ;)) and a chimney breast taken out!

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 08, 2018, 06:16:15 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/08/ss4.jpg)

I have added a double fronted unit to the group of 4, a bit more kit bashing was needed to do this as the backs only come in 4's.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 10, 2018, 04:13:33 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/10/st1.jpg)

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/10/st230a04.jpg)

Another modified Metcalfe kit ready for the South side of town, namely a double terraced house with full height bay windows.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on May 10, 2018, 04:59:10 pm
I like that house with the upstairs bay window. Makes quite a difference.
That purple car - has it got any tyres?
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on May 10, 2018, 05:21:47 pm
The double height bay windows look good. As regards the tyres - ultra low profile  ???
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on May 10, 2018, 05:34:44 pm
The double height bay windows look good. As regards the tyres - ultra low profile  ???

That's what I thought as well.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 10, 2018, 05:48:11 pm
That purple car - has it got any tyres?


It's a cheap Chinese import they have to cut back on some of the fixtures and fittings Tyres are an optional extras
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/3799-100518174748.gif) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=65162)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 13, 2018, 12:28:18 pm
Plymbridge has just got a new Fire Station, thanks to a Osbournes free download of Moretonhampstead Fire Station.

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/13/fire.jpg)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on May 13, 2018, 05:30:20 pm
Looks good, Di.

Nice colour variation on the roof slates but have you thought about trying Redutex for roofing? Makes a heck of a difference to printed kits, plus I must admit a bit of a dent in your railway budget.

Are you planning to add an appropriate fire engine at some point? Perhaps an Osborn's offering: http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d0012-n-gauge-civils-green-goddess-painted-43634-p.asp (http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d0012-n-gauge-civils-green-goddess-painted-43634-p.asp)

I have modified mine with I think a better, separately fitted ladder

The Arch Laser vehicles are nicely done and their steam roller is particularly good.

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 13, 2018, 08:13:54 pm
Are you planning to add an appropriate fire engine at some point?
Dave G
I will be looking for an appropriate fire engine but no one seems to make 70's fire engine in the Devon and Cornwall Brigade livery.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 16, 2018, 12:30:39 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/3799-160518123022.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=65371)


PLYMBRIDGE:- I have just acquired a beautiful model excavator for the layout, I got this from ebay, I am looking into the maker and their customer shops to try and source a supply of these models in the UK.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: MKP on May 16, 2018, 03:07:16 pm

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/3799-160518123022.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=65371[/url])


PLYMBRIDGE:- I have just acquired a beautiful model excavator for the layout, I got this from ebay, I am looking into the maker and their customer shops to try and source a supply of these models in the UK.


I believe that this is one of the Norscot models, they had 3 in the range in this scale but none available at the moment
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 16, 2018, 03:41:12 pm
It is a Norscot model and it does not seem to be in production at the moment I have found a few old new stock in Hong Kong.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 16, 2018, 07:02:39 pm
As a result of my search I can tell you if you find one grab it as production has stopped and there are no plans to do another run as the manufacture has been transferred to Diecast Masters from Norscot and Diecast masters are not producing 'n' scale models but moving to 1/125. :'(
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 20, 2018, 04:12:41 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/20/klb.jpg)

This is the result of my latest project in shrink raying a Wordsworth OO model. I have been doing this because the Royal Mail has some how delivered my signed for package of Metcalf kits to someone else!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 20, 2018, 09:18:30 pm
That looks successful, Di. Try the shrink ray on the postie next! >:D
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 21, 2018, 11:39:10 am
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/21/rs1.jpg)

I have been using the shrink ray again on Wordsworth downloads to create some road signs, the photo is rather cruel the imperfect circles do not look obvious in real life especially at normal viewing distances.

These signs have been printed at 50% on normal 80 gsm printer paper and doubled over and the posts are made of the core of single core instrument wire.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on May 21, 2018, 09:51:06 pm
Thanks for that Di.
I always seem to struggle with cutting out circles. I wonder if anyone has some sure fire way of managing to cut out circles without jaggy edges?

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Zogbert Splod on May 21, 2018, 10:41:39 pm
I'm not too sure how it scales up but could you make use of the collected bits from a standard paper punch?  The kind of thing used for putting paper into a binder...
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 21, 2018, 11:59:14 pm
I'm not too sure how it scales up but could you make use of the collected bits from a standard paper punch?  The kind of thing used for putting paper into a binder...


They scale out at about 3 foot (900mm) and normal UK signs are 2 ft. (600mm)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: stevewalker on May 22, 2018, 12:11:39 am
How about filing the end of a tube to give a cutting edge, placing paper on a piece of wood, putting the tube on top and tapping it?
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Zogbert Splod on May 22, 2018, 12:23:45 am
Here is another option, cheap too!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075PMD142/ref=psdc_1938991031_t2_B001JYLJB0 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075PMD142/ref=psdc_1938991031_t2_B001JYLJB0)
Many choices of size available up to 5mm which would be 2' 6"...
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 22, 2018, 10:48:55 am
Good spot, Allan. Could also be used to make SR disc codes :hmmm:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 22, 2018, 12:21:37 pm
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-5x-Hollow-Punch-Set-Hand-Tools-Hole-Punching-Leather-Gasket-Carbon-Steel-JX/142803485453?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=441808571851&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-5x-Hollow-Punch-Set-Hand-Tools-Hole-Punching-Leather-Gasket-Carbon-Steel-JX/142803485453?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=441808571851&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649)


I have ordered the above will let you all know how it works out when it gets here from China.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Malc on May 22, 2018, 05:12:50 pm
One of these works quite well on card.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Revolving-Leather-Hole-Punch-Plier-Puncher-Leather-Cut-Belt-Eyelet-6-Sizes/122627006296?hash=item1c8d239f58:g:aPQAAOSwEatZgH2K (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Revolving-Leather-Hole-Punch-Plier-Puncher-Leather-Cut-Belt-Eyelet-6-Sizes/122627006296?hash=item1c8d239f58:g:aPQAAOSwEatZgH2K)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 22, 2018, 09:39:26 pm
Looks to be exactly what Di has ordered but cheaper :doh:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 24, 2018, 02:53:57 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/24/ci1.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/FRbh)

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/24/ci2.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/Ftsd)

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/24/ci3.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/FfTb)

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/24/ci4.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/FNp9)


This is the latest build for the town on Plymbridge, the Metcalfe Coaching inn which is one of their recent laser cut enhanced kits ( these new kits are a great improvement on the earlier ones), but Me being Me I could not leave/build it as stock I had to add few touches of my own, extra signage and AA & RAC recommended signs.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on May 24, 2018, 02:58:34 pm
You’ve done a great job with that Di.
Brilliant work. It looks very inviting for a warm day.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: weave on May 24, 2018, 03:33:58 pm
Great stuff Di.

I would definitely attempt (and fail probably) one of those if I didn't model France.

Really nice.

Think I'll have a pint to toast your modelling.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 24, 2018, 03:55:25 pm
Looks great, Di. What are the nightly rates please? ;)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Caz on May 24, 2018, 07:51:38 pm
Lovely work Di, you made a cracking job of that, maybe have to remodel part of Claywell to use one as the look so good.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 25, 2018, 07:20:21 am
Great work Di.  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 26, 2018, 07:55:46 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/26/g1.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/Fw1l)
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/26/g2.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/F8QF)
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/26/g3.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/FWeM)


With typical bank holiday weather i.e. rather overcast and damp, I set about a P.D.Marsh multi media kit (Carnaby's Garage), all I can say is I'm glad I got it off e-bay for a fiver it is definitely not worth the nearly £40 RRP, The instructions are only of use to a experience modeller and the quality of the kit over all leaves a lot to be desired, it is very dated and compared to other laser cut kits expensive.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on May 30, 2018, 12:33:42 am
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/30/sh1.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/FmHZ)
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/30/sh2.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/FimR)
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/30/sh3.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/Fbeo)
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/05/30/sh4.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/FPsL)

Another building for Plymbridge a school slightly modified from the base Metcalfe kit, mine has pedestrian gates, Plymouth area primary school welcome signs and decoration on the walls.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on May 30, 2018, 05:56:36 am
Nice additional touches to another new-ish Metcalfe kit.

Great that you've been able to include some of the recently released kits into the layout build.

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Papyrus on May 30, 2018, 11:42:39 am
 :greatpicturessign:

The inn and the school look really good. I've avoided Metcalfe so far as I am not a huge fan of card kits, but I may have to revise my opinion.

The garage could probably be improved with a 'new' roof - rusty corrugated iron, say, but I agree it looks crude by today's standards.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on May 30, 2018, 12:22:57 pm
I've avoided Metcalfe so far as I am not a huge fan of card kits, but I may have to revise my opinion.


Do try one, they are excellent kits and with a bit of 'bashing' .............like your suggestion for the rusty roof.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 31, 2018, 04:09:39 pm
Nice school Di. Wish I had gone to somewhere as posh as that!

Agree with your comments that the garage is over-priced at the RRP. Well put together though, sounds like in spite of the (lack of) instructions.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 05, 2018, 03:17:30 pm
Playtime at Plymbridge Primary, I don't envy the 2 poor teachers on playground duty.

For those interested I have used 1/300 figures bought very cheaply on e-bay from China for the children.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/3799-050618151405.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=66068)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/3799-050618151544.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=66069)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/3799-050618151616.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=66070)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/3799-050618151713.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=66071)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on June 05, 2018, 03:53:45 pm
Neat trick using the 1/300 figures as children, Di :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: weave on June 05, 2018, 04:00:44 pm
Hello Di,

A cunning plan. Were they already painted? I would like to have quite a few people for a market and a music festival in the future but couldn't paint them myself and the cost scares me.

If they were painted, that could get the kids out of the way  :). Do you have a link?

Looks great.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 05, 2018, 04:05:49 pm
Hello Di,

A cunning plan. Were they already painted? I would like to have quite a few people for a market and a music festival in the future but couldn't paint them myself and the cost scares me.

If they were painted, that could get the kids out of the way  :). Do you have a link?

Looks great.

Cheers weave  :beers:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-Mix-Scale-Figures-1-300-Painted-Colorful-People-Passenger-Street-Scenes/173226268084?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-Mix-Scale-Figures-1-300-Painted-Colorful-People-Passenger-Street-Scenes/173226268084?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 05, 2018, 07:00:23 pm
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:    Nice idea Di looks excellent
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on June 05, 2018, 07:23:22 pm
Looks good to me.
Who is Boring Don by the way?  :D
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on June 06, 2018, 07:06:54 am
Really very nice.

Particularly like the kids sitting on the steps.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 07, 2018, 12:16:13 am
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/07/rs.jpg)

Improved round n-gauge road signs cut using a 3mm leather hole punch. I still have to master centring the punch over the printed sign.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Caz on June 07, 2018, 07:38:37 pm
Perhaps cut out and then add the sign, give you a bit of wiggle room.   ;)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Phoenix on June 07, 2018, 09:19:09 pm
Hi,

Those look really good Di. A great idea using the punch, and I'm sure a touch up with a red sharpie will sort out any little unevenness. :)

I must admit on Windmill Hill I took the cowards way out and only used straight edged signs, although cutting the centre from the triangle was a bit fiddly  :-[

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-210518222738-65572838.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 10, 2018, 07:22:31 pm
I have just completed another Terraced Block this time for the South side of town, it has the usual additions the cat on the wall, a couple of dogs going Walkies, Mrs Jones washing, the grid gates on the back entrance to the butchers yard and a couple of faded painted adverts on the end buildings.

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/10/0705f3ca28653e66b7dfc27cc46efdbd.jpg)(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/10/9150ca7ba1fa095657af4e88df16945e.jpg)
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/10/1e912e01bb4a20b41b96390523d88af9.jpg)(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/10/4c3d43002f64e49e3082528252173848.jpg)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on June 10, 2018, 08:02:29 pm
Another good block of Metcalfe kits Di.  :thumbsup: I was looking at the houses and realised there was something missing, (something that I had never thought about before), street name plates fastened to the walls. As far as I remember, none of the Metcalfe kits have them.  ???. When I get round to 'planting' my houses, that is something I will have to look at.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 11, 2018, 09:44:08 am
Another little detail added, Street names.
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/11/3555e65bdb76df4fe50ac1f20ced6ea2.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/FLuh)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on June 11, 2018, 05:11:56 pm
Another little detail added, Street names.
([url]http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/11/3555e65bdb76df4fe50ac1f20ced6ea2.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/FLuh[/url])

That street name really looks good.
Pergect sizing.
J Robinson must have a chain of shops. He has one at Tregonning too.  :D
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Caz on June 11, 2018, 06:41:23 pm
Another little detail added, Street names.
([url]http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/11/3555e65bdb76df4fe50ac1f20ced6ea2.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/FLuh[/url])


Great stuff Di, so easily overlooked and so obvious when someone points it out.    :)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on June 11, 2018, 09:43:43 pm
@Ditape (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799)

That really is an excellent 'finishing touch' Di.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 15, 2018, 08:22:51 pm
Skoda have a new dealership in Plymbridge at West End Garage on the road out of Plymbridge to Plymouth. It is a slightly modified Metcalfe kit one of their excellent new ones.

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/15/898cd624ed2ad4be6ca50c179e346962.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0OrZ)

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/15/3b7471fde54c65de6d75d9a5e52fcee2.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0ZUu)

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/15/f443fbf2393fbc756bdb200aada3eaae.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0NCe)

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/15/caa02e303ea2a4d018630067614c60dc.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0pjP)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on June 15, 2018, 09:07:38 pm
Looks good Di.
That’s the first time Ive seen the garage other than in an advert.
I’m impressed - great job.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on June 15, 2018, 10:27:09 pm
I have to agree, it does look good.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 16, 2018, 07:22:43 am
Yep, nice looking model Di.  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 17, 2018, 01:39:55 pm
 :hellosign: Excellent modelling Di, looks spot on   :greatpicturessign:
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Philip. on June 17, 2018, 01:57:42 pm
That's brilliant Di, better than my scratch built effort
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 18, 2018, 02:41:30 pm
After a pretty dismal running session this morning I am having serious doubts about Plymbridge as it stands, the traverser deck seems to have warped and I am also having problems with the transition from the grade to the station  at the west end of the layout, so I am seriously considering a major redesign. I am even thinking I might give unitrack a go. Any advice on Unitrack and DCC welcome, I have never used unitrack before. :help:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on June 18, 2018, 03:08:35 pm
@Ditape (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799)
Di, if you are seriously thinking of going to those lengths, I would definitely recommend that you give Unitrack a try. After building my first 4' x 2' layout using Peco track, I decided to go the Unitrack route for the new layout and I am so glad I did. The advantage with Unitrack is that, at its simplest, it is 'plug and go'.  I started the new layout 18 months ago and am only now starting to fix the track down! The advantage is that you can have a layout, test it, redesign a bit, test it, redesign a bit ... you get the picture. Everything just slots together, so it is extremely easy to redesign to your hearts content. Plus the points are pre-wired - no soldering. Point switches are available, but I have swapped them all for DPDT switches. There are plenty of Kato Unitrack topics on the forum, plus, I can recommend looking at

www.fiferhobby.com (http://www.fiferhobby.com)

there are lots of 'how to' bits relating to Kato.

Maybe buy enough Unitrack for a simple test circuit first. Keith at 'Traintrax' has a 5%/10% offer still running, (I think).
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Dorsetmike on June 18, 2018, 04:01:41 pm
The main limitation of Unitrack is not much choice of points, no curved points, no slips (as yet??????) I have used Fleischmann slips and curved points with Kato, the appearance is not too different, slightly different grey, (could try a bit of weathering?)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 18, 2018, 04:13:36 pm
Hello Di

Sorry to hear of your troubles.

I have used 'Unitrack' on two medium-sized layouts and one tiny one.

It is a superb system and on my US layout with Kato locomotives it is as near perfect as one could imagine.

For my British efforts here are my observations regarding things to look out for:

The 'Unijoiners' are excellent but there can be a roughness on the top of the rails at certain joins, no matter how carefully I lay the track.  It is laid on 12mm 'Sundeala' on top of 18mm MDF on kitchen units so it is a stable base.  I ought not say this in public but I have glued certain joins solid with 'Superglue' and then gently filed (very fine file!) the top of the rails smooth.  I know a lot of people would not countenance such treatment but it worked for me in P4 and appears to work in this context.  However, the slightly rough joins do not trouble diesel locomotives or a Kato steam engine.  My Union Mills engines buck a bit, though, if the joins are not treated.

The #4 turnouts are a potential menace with British steam engines.  @Newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) has done some excellent research which I commend to you.  My own experience supports his conclusions.  #4s are fine with Kato equipment, though.

The #6 turnouts are good, but do not have a joggle or housing in the stock rail for the switch to fit in.  This has given me some trouble with Union Mills steam engines and the solution was to file a housing in the stock rails.

The standard Kato track spacing is 33mm and #4 points give that on a crossover.  But #6 points give a wider spacing.  The scissors uses #6 common crossings and appears fine.  There are now crossovers available, but I have no experience of these, sorry.  Steve @tutenkhamunsleeping (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1490) has made brilliant modifications to #6 turnouts to bring the track spacing back to something closer.  He also has a technique to bend Kato track.  'The Capital Lines' is the thread and it is really good and entertaining reading.

My final conclusion as a very satisfied 'Unitrack' user.  I would use it for another US or a modern image British layout without question.  There is another steam-era British layout plan floating around in my head (floating on top of fine ale I expect).  If I build it, the track will most likely be Peco.

Best wishes however you decide to proceed.

John

Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on June 18, 2018, 05:23:58 pm
Sorry to read of the troubles with Plym Bridge but it looks as though you've had helpful info re your Unitrack questions.

Good luck with the reworking and hope it doesn't stop your enjoyable, regular updates.

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on June 18, 2018, 09:03:03 pm
Sorry, Di, but I think you would have the same issues if the layout had been built with Kato Unitrack. A redesign with Peco track might well solve any problems. I'll not try to dissuade you from going to Kato but 2 of my 3 Warships and both my Class 47s derailed on Kato #4 points. From what I remember of the vids the transition off the Plymbridge incline was quite 'lumpy' but, can I ask, what do you think the warping of the traverser was down to?
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 19, 2018, 12:43:02 am
, can I ask, what do you think the warping of the traverser was down to?

2 reasons;- 1 it was made from 12mm MDF ( which I have since been warned is liable to warp ), 2 possibly at fairly rapid temp change from my normal 19 c to a sweltering  very humid 30 odd today.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on June 19, 2018, 07:36:35 am
Not claiming any level of expertise or knowledge, Di, but could you rebuilt the traverser using marine quality ply? That material is meant to be very stable. I guess any framework would need to be of equal quality.

Hope you can get things sorted without too much pain.

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on June 19, 2018, 05:48:19 pm
, can I ask, what do you think the warping of the traverser was down to?

2 reasons;- 1 it was made from 12mm MDF ( which I have since been warned is liable to warp ), 2 possibly at fairly rapid temp change from my normal 19 c to a sweltering  very humid 30 odd today.

Its most likely to be the humidity. MDF is known to absorb moisture very efficiently.
I was interested to see how the MDF would work in action. My initial interest was based on a friend's model who had a baseboard built for him in MDF, and it ended up being trashed for similar reasons. (My gripe with MDF as a baseboard material has always been the weight of it.)
I thought your usage may have fared better since you clearly painted it, thus forming a seal. I wonder if you painted the underneath of the traverser board, or the other boards for that matter, bacasue the warping could be there too.

cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 19, 2018, 06:00:43 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/19/16691e5bcc4e6edf98c1379ee2d2180d.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0ERB)

Using existing baseboard, buildings and a mix of old and new track this is what the new PLYMBRIDGE may look like, all and any constructive criticism welcome. A majority of the visable track will be Peco code 55 with electro frog points, the hidden curves and curved points will be Peco code 80 as there are as yet no code 55 curved points. I will probably go for wire in tube operation for the points which will allow me to add servos at a later date if I decide to go down the automation route.


In reply to Kirky I only have my self to blame I did not paint both sides or the hidden edges.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on June 19, 2018, 06:27:02 pm
Not meant to be a criticism at all but your plan does look a tiny bit 'tame', if I dare use that description.

You have such great modelling skills that perhaps you could do something just a bit different. Silly suggestion perhaps but how about a single track from the station inner loop across the board to the fiddle yard - or the other way round? That could mean a break in the houses and include a level crossing for extra visual interest.

Hope you don't mind my suggestion!  :-X

Whatever you decide, I'm sure we all look forward to seeing what you do.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on June 19, 2018, 06:28:38 pm
In reply to Kirky I only have my self to blame I did not paint both sides or the hidden edges.
Completely disagree Di. Im not sure that painting/sealing the bottom and edges would have prevented the problems anyway. MDF is a notoriously difficult material to keep stable.
Like the new plan though.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on June 19, 2018, 08:05:46 pm
I like the new plan, Di, and think you'll have a lot of fun with it.
Personally I don't like mixing codes of track so would try to use code 55 throughout using the SL-E386F and 387F curved points. The geometry may have to be 'forced' but I think it might be better than the height difference between code 55 and code 80.
The alternative would be to use what you intend to use as there is a trick with the fishplates that more or less levels the rails. Trouble is I can't remember who put it on the forum :-[
Might it have been @ntpntpntp (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5885) ?
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Dorsetmike on June 19, 2018, 08:10:17 pm
I now use Celotex insulation foam, comes in sheets 25, 50 or 100mm thick, sheetsfrom 1200x450 to 2400x600, I used  50mm x 1200x600 on this layout

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Dorsetmike's_pix/Dir_6/main_24929.jpg)

covered in cork tiles, (track pins don't hold well in foam) also easy to cut a channel in the cork for wire in tube
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Dorsetmike's_pix/Dir_6/main_24973.jpg)

Instead of a conventional fiddle yard use cassettes, either use a short stub to connect to or modify a rerailer to "plug into" the cassette track. I'm currently trying to figure how to hack a Proses power rerailer
https://proses.com/prestashop/tools-testers-cradles-rolling-roads-/200-hooo-powered-railer-for-locos-coaches-and-wagons.html (https://proses.com/prestashop/tools-testers-cradles-rolling-roads-/200-hooo-powered-railer-for-locos-coaches-and-wagons.html)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on June 19, 2018, 08:18:17 pm
Confirming Micks' mention of the SL-386F and 387F curved points are code 55. Quote from Track Shack website:

The Peco Streamline SL-E386F N Gauge Code 55 Curved Double Radius Turnout Right Hand has the following dimensions:-

Length 160mm(6 5/16in)
Nominl radii- Outside: 914mm(36in) Inside: 457mm(18in)
Crossing Angle: 10°.

Constructed from Code 55 Rail.


Celotex is what I have used for my boards, too.

Dave G.

 
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: ntpntpntp on June 19, 2018, 08:23:16 pm
Personally I don't like mixing codes of track ... there is a trick with the fishplates that more or less levels [ code 55 and code 80] rails.

The slight height difference between the two when joined together is mostly caused by the fishplates raising the code 55 due to the middle T section of the rail. This can be alleviated by either slightly squashing the fishplate or by filing it a little lower - the latter is probably easier to be honest.


Personally I don't mix the two codes, I stick to code 55 in the scenic areas at least. If I use code 80 in fiddleyards and hidden trackage then the transition happens at a baseboard joint and no fishplates are used (my layouts are built to be portable).

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5885-190618202654.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=66696)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on June 19, 2018, 08:34:20 pm
I have amazed myself :o
Thanks Nick
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 19, 2018, 09:00:43 pm
Hello, sorry to hear of your troubles Di, looking forward to seeing the layout back on track.
    regards Derek
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 20, 2018, 07:52:31 am
Sorry to hear of your problems Di.

Keep persevering. Looking on the bright side, your retirement does mean that you have more time to tackle these kind of problems! (Although personally I find I have less time since I retired...) :hmmm:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Jack on June 20, 2018, 03:32:59 pm

Using existing baseboard, buildings and a mix of old and new track this is what the new PLYMBRIDGE may look like, all and any constructive criticism welcome. A majority of the visable track will be Peco code 55 with electro frog points, the hidden curves and curved points will be Peco code 80 as there are as yet no code 55 curved points. I will probably go for wire in tube operation for the points which will allow me to add servos at a later date if I decide to go down the automation route.



I use code 55 for the scenic side and code 80 for the fiddle yard with the peco code 80 curved points and I've had absolutely no issues with this configuration.

What I would say is to fit a piece of code 80 track between the curved point and the code 55, that way you get a smoother transition between the codes, and a smooth run into the points.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/689-200618152702.jpeg)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 21, 2018, 01:52:56 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/21/5994066321889f10fcba25c92a642581.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0v9h)

Still messing around with ideas for the rebuild, still using Peco track, Set track for the hidden/end curves and set track curved points as I unfortunately  do not have the space for the code 55 electrofrog ones being 18&36" radius and my boards are only 30" wide. This variation gives a little more room for freight operations. I think I may need to rename the layout as any resemblance to Plymbridge has gone so I was thinking along the line of Rattery a real place near the main line that never had a station in real life so stayed a small village.   
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on June 21, 2018, 05:31:26 pm
Definitely more interesting than Plan A.  :thumbsup:

For some strange reason the Thank You is shown as Locked  ???

Hopefully one of our Mods can fix that.

Dave G

Moderator Comment Someone pressed a wrong button but it is now unlocked
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: 25901JFM on June 21, 2018, 09:16:05 pm
I have code 55 and code 80 on my new set up. It is on a non scenic section, the join between the two is on a straight section and does not use rail joiners.  The code 55 has suitable packing to bring the rail top as level as I can with the code 80.  It is not dead level, but so far testing with different loco's and rolling stock as not caused any running issues.  Good luck with your change of plan Di and I look forward to seeing developments.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on June 21, 2018, 09:39:56 pm
I have code 55 and code 80 on my new set up. It is on a non scenic section, the join between the two is on a straight section and does not use rail joiners.  The code 55 has suitable packing to bring the rail top as level as I can with the code 80.

Yup. That's another way round it and, if necessary, use a linking wire rather than the missing fishplate if you worry about electrical continuity.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: 25901JFM on June 21, 2018, 10:03:00 pm
I have code 55 and code 80 on my new set up. It is on a non scenic section, the join between the two is on a straight section and does not use rail joiners.  The code 55 has suitable packing to bring the rail top as level as I can with the code 80.

Yup. That's another way round it and, if necessary, use a linking wire rather than the missing fishplate if you worry about electrical continuity.

Hi Mick.
My join actually forms part of a section break so has a feed either side.  Electrickery is not my strong point but my wiring and switches all seem to be doing what I need them to!!!
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 23, 2018, 11:00:16 pm
With the quick delivery from Track shack I have started the remodel of the east end, the west end will be a little longer as the track for that is coming from  Cheltenham model centre via Amazon as I had a gift card to use up, it was ordered the day before the track shack order I wonder how long it will take to get here. I have lifted the track and managed to save all the pointwork and 90% of the track, I hope to resurface the base boards ready for track laying tomorrow . I have also received a delivery of piano wire and silicone tube to fit for point operation, a first for me but I have not been really satisfied with peco/seep point motors.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 24, 2018, 11:55:20 am
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/24/88758e9d6d47f598c1f27dd030232cb4.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0YAM)


I have resurfaced 1/5 of the baseboard and this is a test lay of the new east end, evidence of my patchwork rebuild of the baseboard surface is obvious but should disappear under senics when applied.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bealman on June 24, 2018, 12:00:23 pm
Great progress Di!  :thumbsup:

But please double check running over those curved points  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Hailstone on June 24, 2018, 01:16:32 pm
As long as the lead in to these is 12" radius or more they should work ok. I put a trailing cross over on Trewoon and to test it, ran a Schools and a Brighton belle through it in all directions at high speed several times without any derailments. a tighter radius lead in will cause some locos to come to grief in the facing direction as I discovered on the relief line to Trewoon and had to relay the track leading up to the point.

Regards,

Alex
 
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on June 24, 2018, 03:35:00 pm
Hattons website states the ST44/45 have a special short straight and curve to create a crossover between 2nd and 3rd radius curves so  reckon on past experience of those radii that most things will be OK on them. Not so sure about the plastic frogs with smaller locos, though.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 24, 2018, 04:06:54 pm
Hattons website states the ST44/45 have a special short straight and curve to create a crossover between 2nd and 3rd radius curves so  reckon on past experience of those radii that most things will be OK on them. Not so sure about the plastic frogs with smaller locos, though.


I don't run many small locos mainly shunters which will not operate normally on the main line and the station area will be code 55 and electro frog. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Papyrus on June 24, 2018, 07:57:42 pm
From personal experience, you just know when something isn't going to work, but it takes a bit of courage to rip it up and start again! Your new plan looks good and at least you will be able to re-use those lovely buildings. Go for it!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 29, 2018, 03:59:28 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/29/800454a158cfb272d2f5b15fa6a4343f.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0Qvy)

Seeing as I am relaying the track on Plymbridge, I thought I would experiment with a new idea I have had (maybe someone else has thought of it) which involves using 20mm double side foam vehicle body tape to both hold the track down and fix the ballast neatly with no chance of gumming up the point work. The foam being intended to fix car body panels should not be very prone to UV break down. My method fix tape to track section to be laid peel back about an inch (25mm) of the cover tape and pull it to one side fix track down once in place by peeling the rest of the cover tape off gently pushing the track down as you go, sprinkle with fine ballast and tamp down using fingers, vacuum the loose off,.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on June 29, 2018, 04:31:56 pm
@Ditape (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799)
I used cheap poundshop double sided foam as a trackbed on my stay at home layout. I ballasted in the way you described. Its been down a few years and it seems quite stable. If I was doing it again I would use terrarium sand for ballast, just cos its finer.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on June 30, 2018, 03:47:12 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/06/30/d050a0d4c122434d2bb067d31e8c5cad.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0hAo)

I have been a busy little bee today, using the new way of tracklaying, I have re-laid the West end of Plymbridge, wired and tested it and installed wire in tube for the 2 curved points, the next phase will be the new station for Plymbridge.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 03, 2018, 09:24:39 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/07/03/f3084d1e8c836bd5872a7b112c1cb9ed.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0BGP)

I have completed the relaying of the West end of Plymbridge, I am pleased with the way things are going, so far I have only cross connected one pair of droppers, work is suspended until the postie brings more supplies for the permanent way gang, hopefully in the next couple of days.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 04, 2018, 07:22:02 am
Good to see that you are getting back on track Di  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bealman on July 04, 2018, 08:08:53 am
I'm intrigued as to what's happening on the right hand side?

Looks to me like a Peco scissors formation would have fitted right in there?

Or have I missed your trackplan  :-[
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 04, 2018, 08:51:39 am
Or have I missed your trackplan  :-[


Trackplan http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38593.msg514227#msg514227 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38593.msg514227#msg514227)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bealman on July 04, 2018, 09:37:49 am
Oh, Now I understand.

Thanks!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 06, 2018, 05:54:28 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/07/06/07ba4c32dbf0c9ea2652fd5e51bc90fc.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0Ize)

With the delivery of supplies the permanent way gang have been hard at work continuing the relaying of Plymbridge.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 06, 2018, 07:46:09 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/07/06/eb3e1b6da84e9746d65679d1950be3e6.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0TtA)

The camera always shows your errors I have fixed the worst of the kinks.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on July 06, 2018, 08:28:08 pm
Frustrating and sometimes a tad embarrassing when your freshly laid and ballasted track shows 'wobbles' in a photo!

I have several of those wobbles that require sorting, despite using a Tracksetta - and a straight one at that! Mine show up even more when you look at the vids.  :-[

Looking at the track from the usual angle doesn't show those annoying bits, I guess it's just that we want it to be as good as it can be.

Great progress Di. Keep up the good work.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on July 06, 2018, 09:26:46 pm
I found the best way to use the straight tracksetta was to pin through the holes in it then slide it down the track, pin again and repeat however many times as necessary. I still ended up with the odd bendy bit ???

Great progress though, Di
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 10, 2018, 02:07:10 am
After much tweaking, soldering dodgy fishplates(rail joiners), chasing shorts (a duff gaugemaster frog switcher) I have finally got two trains running fairly smoothly around the new Plymbridge it has only taken about 12 hours of head scratching as it is now 0200 I will leave you with the promise of a video when I have had a tidy up.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on July 10, 2018, 05:45:40 am
Burning the midnight and much later oil!

Glad you are up and running.

Look forward to the vid.

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 10, 2018, 11:45:30 pm
 :hellosign: Good to see you up & running again Di, looking forward to the vid
       regards Derek
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 11, 2018, 01:38:23 am
After another day fine tuning the track I am still not 100% happy with the running quality, Kato unitrack is looking very interesting, I am seriously considering investing the £500 for the track it has the advantage that the point motors are built in and by all accounts gives very reliable running. >:( :veryangry: :censored: :help: :headbutt:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on July 11, 2018, 07:21:13 am
That would be a major change and investment Di, but if your current track isn't producing what you want, a review of what system to use is understandable.

Await your decision and update with interest.

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on July 11, 2018, 07:54:46 am
Hi Di
I dont suppose you havent considered the stock rather the track? But it is just worth checking your back to backs again, just to make sure it is the track. It would be really annoying to spend 500 quid just to find your issues are stock related. Hope this helps.

Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 11, 2018, 09:54:40 pm
As I have been dissatisfied with the running on my last 2 or 3 attempted  layouts all being built with flex track and streamline points, the last layout to run as intended was in OO and used Hornby track, I think I have to eventually admit that Peco and I don't play well together, my most successful layout was in z-gauge using Marklin track so I am seriously thinking of giving Kato unitrack a go,it is similar to t-gauge track that I have used sucsesfully in the past, this is my idea, Kato is supposedly idiot proof so I should be able to get a layout that runs well it is plug and play track that even my ham-fisted track laying should be up to laying it.

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/07/11/c03d8818659e193c91cd70431ce2650a.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0cx1)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on July 11, 2018, 10:09:25 pm
All I'd say is if you intend to use any #4 points you might have to indulge in a little judicious filing of the stock blades. I know each loco is different but the results of my testing might be of help as I don't know exactly what stock you have. Attached..................
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 11, 2018, 10:15:15 pm
All I'd say is if you intend to use any #4 points you might have to indulge in a little judicious filing of the stock blades. I know each loco is different but the results of my testing might be of help as I don't know exactly what stock you have. Attached..................

All points are #6 I have heard that #4 points have some problems.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on July 11, 2018, 10:31:24 pm
I am seriously thinking of giving Kato unitrack a go,

@Ditape (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799)
As I mentioned in a post a day or two ago, Unitrack does not look as 'nice' as, say, Peco straight out of the packet. However, it is easy to disguise using ballast, washes etc. It is surprising what you can do with it using a sharp knife and/or saw. I am currently experimenting with putting in an inspection pit on the layout, using nothing more than a normal straight piece of track, some plasticard and tiny LEDs. The website www.fiferhobby.com (http://www.fiferhobby.com) has some excellent tips and tricks for Unitrack plus there is a lot of information on Youtube.  Get yourself a few pieces to experiment with.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on July 11, 2018, 10:45:18 pm
Also Steve @tutenkhamunsleeping (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1490)  has some tricks up his sleeve with creating 'Flexi' Unitrack etc

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=19584.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=19584.0)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on July 11, 2018, 11:11:46 pm
As I said, amazing what you can do with a knife or saw. I have not read the full topic referred to by @Newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264), (I need to go to bed  :)), but if @tutenkhamunsleeping (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1490)  cut a few slots in the 'base' of Unitrack to convert a straight piece to flexitrack, that is another tip I got from Fifer - a mine of useful information!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 12, 2018, 01:51:59 pm
I have just been informed that my order for Kato track for the above layout has been sent out by  Keith @ Train Trax, I only placed the order in the early hours of this morning(sorry 2355 last night), I look forward to starting this build. I will have to clear the baseboards ready to start.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on July 12, 2018, 02:21:01 pm
Keep us posted as to how you get on please, Di
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 13, 2018, 11:59:03 am
Look at the pile of goodies that arrived this morning from Keith @ Train Trax via UPS. :) :claphappy:

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/07/13/c13a943f0dcc9018f71eeef842e1bee7.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0qBg)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 13, 2018, 12:01:43 pm
thanks diane

look forward to seeing progress
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on July 13, 2018, 01:25:44 pm
Going by passed performance, that lot will keep you busy for at least 20 minutes!  :D

Look forward to watching the rebuild take shape.

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Caz on July 13, 2018, 01:36:21 pm
Going by passed performance, that lot will keep you busy for at least 20 minutes!  :D

Look forward to watching the rebuild take shape.

Dave G

Yes, me too, looking forward to see what happens Di.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 13, 2018, 02:03:17 pm
Yep me too, keep us posted on how you get on Di, and good luck!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on July 13, 2018, 04:51:52 pm
Going by passed performance, that lot will keep you busy for at least 20 minutes!

Remember that this is Kato Unitrack - it will only take her 15 minutes to set up!  ;D

I don't think you will be disappointed Di.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 13, 2018, 06:16:37 pm
Hello Di, welcome to the wonderful world of Kato, I'm sure you'll enjoy. Looking forward to developments
   regards Derek
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 14, 2018, 11:40:14 pm
 Here is another Kato convert the 2 trains I spent 2 days trying to get to run around the Peco version of Plymbridge are currently happily trundling around the Kato version, no derailment, no random uncoupling, no stalling on the points, run thru all the loops with no problems with all points changing at the flick of a switch. I just wish I had discovered the Kato glow of a happy modeller sooner.  :bounce: :claphappy: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on July 14, 2018, 11:46:12 pm
That's good to hear, Di. Tribulations we don't need but get all too often.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bealman on July 15, 2018, 12:35:28 am
Good to hear, Di!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on July 15, 2018, 07:17:45 am
Great stuff, Di!  :thumbsup:

Photos soon, please.  :camera:

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 15, 2018, 07:33:21 am
 :beers:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 15, 2018, 10:52:12 am
A Video of Plymbridge Mk 3, using Kato track. It's great to be able to switch off my trains and come back later and just switch on and start "playing" without having to spend time tweaking the layout. Kato has save my sanity, I wish I had discovered it along time ago.

Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Invicta Alec on July 15, 2018, 10:58:58 am
Fantastic Di ... and so smooooooooooooooth!

 :)

Alec.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bealman on July 15, 2018, 11:00:59 am
Di,

Please stop producing videos like that!

Makes me want to abandon my layout and start a new one even more!

Everything is running so beautifully!

And of course, I love the BP!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 15, 2018, 11:03:29 am
A slippery slope, normally with at least one “Bullet” train on the way down :D
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on July 15, 2018, 11:46:08 am
Nice one but what kept you?  :D

Looking forward to watching as you add the scenic bits.

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on July 15, 2018, 11:58:14 am
I like to hear of another Kato convert!  :thumbsup: Looking forward to the rest of the build.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on July 15, 2018, 12:41:25 pm
You're obviously so relaxed now you got yer geetar out and started whistling ;D
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 15, 2018, 02:10:55 pm
 :hellosign: Glad your happy with the Kato connection Di, thanks for the superb video.
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 17, 2018, 12:50:16 am
I have been playing around with ballasting my Kato track, the Kato ballast is not a perfect match but does not look to bad and will be not important when I give it a wash with some track dirt.

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/07/17/b4ded62aed5a0dae49d70264ac0550f2.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/04Pj)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Caz on July 17, 2018, 02:50:39 pm
Looking good Di and yes far too light, definitely some track dirt needed and perhaps a few weeds between tracks.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 17, 2018, 05:16:21 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/07/17/97147a6eaaaae367f3d25f34af6c301f.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0JA4)

Someone asked for a close up of my  Kato track ballasting, My technique is improving the more I do. (The person who asked was on face book but I thought I would post here as well)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Dorsetmike on July 17, 2018, 05:17:22 pm
Surely the presence of weeds or not depends on if things are Pre BR then no weeds or BR with weeds.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 17, 2018, 11:43:09 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/07/17/5e4f1ea4712376528651861f7833619c.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/0Sn6)

This is how I do the outside edges of Kato track to camouflage the steep sides.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: kirky on July 18, 2018, 09:08:36 pm
Im liking that @Ditape (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3799) . Certainly shows that you can have trains moving within a short space of time if you choose Kato. I really like the way you are trying to hide the hard plastic edges - very effective.
I really hope this works out well for you, nothing worse than getting so far through a project to realise its not working, and its never going to work.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 21, 2018, 01:49:45 pm
I have completed about 2/3 of the ballasting, fitted UK style buffers and placed my collection of buildings roughly where they will end up. I am deciding where to place a couple of tunnels to disguise the fairly tight curves at each end of the layout. So I decided I would take a break and "Play" trains for awhile, OOps I should say Testing the layout after ballasting. ;)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on July 21, 2018, 03:16:09 pm
Nice bit of, erm, testing, Di.
I'm glad you're pleased with your Unitrack
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2018, 03:36:53 pm
fabulous modelling chris
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 22, 2018, 04:09:47 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/07/22/t1.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/1tFl)

After testing Metcalfe, and scalescenes tunnel mouths neither of which fit over Kato unitrack without packing underneath and both were a little narrow, I played around with scaling the Scalescenes tunnel mouth and found that at 125% it fits comfortably with no further modifications I would appreciate any constructive comments on the effect before I go into mass production of 3 more.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 22, 2018, 04:23:33 pm
the important bit di for me is the clearance from the tunnel mouth to the other end and making sure it does clear any coach, either side roof, diesel roof, steam loco chimney

chris. ps : otherwise loooks good
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2018, 09:08:29 pm
I prefer the tight bores/small clearances we have in the UK so use Peco mouths but with some sliced off the base. Just my opinion, though.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on July 23, 2018, 06:01:51 am
It looked like it's a bit high but thought that was just me.

I have Peco flexi sitting on WS underlay and the Peco portals fit OK but don't have Kato track to compare.

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bealman on July 23, 2018, 06:27:44 am
Good to see the BP likes the Kato track, even if it did come to a rather abrupt stop  ;)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Train Waiting on July 23, 2018, 08:41:41 am
I prefer the tight bores/small clearances we have in the UK so use Peco mouths but with some sliced off the base. Just my opinion, though.

I have used the Peco ones as well.  Your picture looked good as regards height - lots of clearance.  A forward-thinking civil engineer.  Lots of British tunnels are 'tighter' as NPN says.

How is the middle and end clearance using your longest bogie vehicle?  I once had a problem with that on an American layout.  The observation dome cleared (only just) but the side hit at its centre (sorry, center) point. 
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 23, 2018, 04:55:00 pm
This Kato track is playing hell with my construction output, I think I will just run a few trains for a couple of minutes, 2 hours later I am still having fun running trains.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/3799-240518150927.gif)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2018, 04:59:38 pm
least its therapeutic. im sweating after a day at the steam museum - schools day - where i work - shuntings, then guarding a train, until the boss turned up and after a shower doing odd jobs. at home playing trains !!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Papyrus on July 23, 2018, 05:06:57 pm
I think I will just run a few trains for a couple of minutes, 2 hours later I am still having fun running trains.


That's the whole POINT!!  :D

Keep playing,

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 24, 2018, 06:00:46 pm
To-day I stopped playing trains long enough to make a second tunnel mouth and make a start on the East end tunnel, which will be a lift off construction to allow access for cleaning and accident recovery.


Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 24, 2018, 06:39:20 pm
we look forward to seeing developments
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 25, 2018, 03:19:43 pm
Using some of my pre-built buildings and some downloaded textures the East end tunnel is progressing nicely.

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/07/25/eet1.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/1jYw)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 25, 2018, 04:50:18 pm
the perfect scenic capturing of a scenic break that blends into the townscape, reminds me of the west end of plymouth, bath sydney street gardens, edge hill liverpool
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 26, 2018, 09:40:46 pm
 :hellosign: Looking good Di, thanks for the videos
     regards Derek
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 27, 2018, 04:49:32 pm


Plymbridge East Tunnel is now more or less complete and open to traffic, the next project will be plymbridge west tunnel.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 27, 2018, 05:11:20 pm
a lovely structure created in miniature
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on July 27, 2018, 05:47:13 pm
I think it’s great and a bit different.
Well done Di.
You’ve even got the parched earth in the middle of the oval. Very topical  :D
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Train Waiting on July 27, 2018, 06:32:15 pm
Brilliant, Di; absolutely brilliant!

I waited for the steam locomotive to move but you are teasing me...

And, with that music, ought you to be modelling the L&N?

Thank you very much.

John
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 27, 2018, 09:02:09 pm
Brilliant, Di; absolutely brilliant!

I waited for the steam locomotive to move but you are teasing me...

And, with that music, ought you to be modelling the L&N?

Thank you very much.

John


JUST FOR YOU

Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 29, 2018, 03:27:39 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/07/29/wet.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/1P0Z)

Work has started on the West End Tunnel, a basic supporting structure with 2 tunnel mouths, with a couple of my pre-built buildings to see how things will work out.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Train Waiting on July 29, 2018, 04:27:41 pm
Brilliant, Di; absolutely brilliant!

I waited for the steam locomotive to move but you are teasing me...

And, with that music, ought you to be modelling the L&N?

Thank you very much.

John

JUST FOR YOU


Many thanks, Di; that was terrific.  I'm now seriously tempted to get a 'Castle', probably in that livery as well.  And I noticed the 'Britannia' hiding in the background!

Thanks again - I enjoyed that.

With kind regards.

John
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on July 31, 2018, 06:27:27 pm


Both tunnels are now complete all except the surface treatment on the West end tunnel,(Grass etc.) I need to order some more static grass so a undercoat of green paint will have to do .
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: port perran on July 31, 2018, 06:56:45 pm
Excellent.
I love the really smooth running Di.
Top notch.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 31, 2018, 08:51:00 pm
Looking good Di. Excellent videos.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 02, 2018, 10:10:51 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/08/02/we1.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/1xL1)

More work done on the Westend Tunnel a little static grass, a few trees and some beasts make big difference.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Zogbert Splod on August 03, 2018, 04:09:49 am
Very fast build!  Impressed?  Oh yeah!
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 04, 2018, 12:30:17 pm


A New Loco for Plymbridge a First Great Western class 150/1 DMU.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Papyrus on August 04, 2018, 04:37:51 pm
Blimey, Di, that is amazingly fast progress!  :goggleeyes:

I have to say, though, I'm worried about where that Britannia ended up. It must have been a hell of a derailment...

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Invicta Alec on August 04, 2018, 09:36:11 pm
The class 150s look really good. The detail on them is very pleasing, I really like mine in regional livery. I'll probably get a second one.

More good progress Di!

Alec.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 06, 2018, 02:21:35 pm


I have acquired a few more Revolution Class B tank wagons and now have a reasonable length train but I could do with a few more.


A class 52 passes thru' Plymbridge hauling a train of fuel oil from Fawley to the service depot at Laira.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 07, 2018, 05:29:17 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/08/07/tsv.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/1Akp)


The train spotters view across the mainline just outside of the West end tunnel.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Papyrus on August 07, 2018, 06:32:52 pm
 :greatpicturessign:  :wonderfulmodelling:

Taking pictures from 'ground' level really makes a difference - your scenery looks terrific.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Papyrus on August 08, 2018, 12:25:55 pm
PS. What do you use for your grass? It looks very good.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 08, 2018, 07:09:48 pm
 :hellosign:. Superb video's DI & fantastic progress, thanks for sharing
   regards Derek
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 08, 2018, 10:09:41 pm
PS. What do you use for your grass? It looks very good.

Cheers,

Chris
A mix of Gaugemaster Summer Grass flock, Peco autumn 2mm static grass and a ebay cheap static dark green 2 mm grass. applied with a tea strainer/electronic fly swat static grass applicator.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 11, 2018, 05:52:25 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/08/11/gs.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/1aLB)

In a departure from my normal buildings I have given Ratio ago with this Goods Shed, it was a bit of work with the paint brush but I think it doesn't look bad and it is a bit different than the massively used Metcalfe one.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Dorsetmike on August 11, 2018, 06:55:48 pm
I hacked a Metcalfe one to fit the space then covered it with Slaters stone plasticard
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 15, 2018, 02:19:48 pm
Another Ratio Kit has been built, I must admit that at the price they are I was rather disappointed to find that the goods shed and the engine shed are virtually the same kit with only a few mouldings being different 95% being identical.
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/08/15/es.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/HeQZ)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 15, 2018, 04:41:25 pm
Just watching trains go by.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Train Waiting on August 15, 2018, 07:01:03 pm
Many thanks for that super film, Di.  I loved the 'Britannia' running light engine.

I have a soft spot for the BR 'Standards'.  As I am meant to be a 'Big Four' modeller, this might become inconvenient!

Thanks again and best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 20, 2018, 04:53:10 pm
I have been busy adding more of the fantastic Revolution Trains Class B tanks to my rake, I am up to 13 now, I should have ordered more but if anyone has any they don't want or need I am in the market. I have also added some pylons from Modelux they have been improved since I last bought some they now have beads for isolators which looks good, I have also added a few more trees and shrubs.

Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on August 20, 2018, 05:48:26 pm
Great video and those Modelux pylons look amazing.

Dare I suggest some of the trees could benefit from a gentle colour change by adding a little scatter?

I've tweaked a number of trees. Just dabbed on neat PVA at random and then put them in a box of suitably mixed fine scatter and gave it a good shake. Tap the tree to get rid of any loose material. Never had any success with hairspray!

Keep the updates coming.

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Drakken on August 20, 2018, 05:51:43 pm
I loved the view from about 2:18 onwards seeing the trains passing could have watched that all day. Lovely setting :beers:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Invicta Alec on August 20, 2018, 05:57:31 pm
Very nice video Di.

Plym Bridge is really starting to look good now. I'm sure you are pleased with it.

Alec.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 20, 2018, 06:08:11 pm
would second that. really coming to life. buildings bring a real sense of a town scene but for me the music would prefer classical or no music. i was sitting outside my local cafe - music is too loud and not conducive for thinking, abrasive but to my point, di a beautiful portrayal of a town scene
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 22, 2018, 07:56:51 pm
Plymbridge:-Much to my joy 0-6-0's run slowly and smoothly thru' Kato point work with out so much as a little stagger, this was a pleasant surprise as the Pannier and the 08 had not been run for months and they ran with no problems straight from storage. :)


Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 23, 2018, 01:30:32 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/08/23/warships.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/HJjK)
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/08/23/westerns.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/HzU6)

I Must stop buying WR Hydraulics.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Dorsetmike on August 23, 2018, 02:28:41 pm
To misqote "You CAN have too much of a BAD thing" :whistle:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on August 23, 2018, 09:28:37 pm
At least you have an equal number of Westerns and Warships but you don't show any Hymeks, class 22s or class 14. Lots to go at yet! ;)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 23, 2018, 10:34:27 pm
At least you have an equal number of Westerns and Warships but you don't show any Hymeks, class 22s or class 14. Lots to go at yet! ;)


I have 3 Hymeks ,2 Class 22's and a class 14  :)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 26, 2018, 04:49:03 pm
It's a cold, wet and windy day here in Swindon, so I thought I would dig out some of my Steamers (Kettles) and let them stretch their legs.

Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 30, 2018, 04:45:06 pm


I have been busy surfacing the station platforms and doing more infill ballasting.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on August 31, 2018, 02:06:12 pm


My rake of Revolution trains Class B tanks is slowly growing now up to 15 with mix of Esso and Plain Black ones.Thanks to Chris in Prague for the last 2 Esso's to join the fleet.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: chrispearce on September 02, 2018, 12:52:26 am
Thanks for the videos. I have just viewed this thread from the beginning. You sure have drastically rebuilt this layout  :goggleeyes:

Your accompanying music has had me in fits of giggles as it is all rather fun.

May I ask what is that evil phat dirty electronica soundtrack in the last few vids? I love it  :bounce: I will suss it out on my piano when I get home tomorrow. It simply has to be played!
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on September 02, 2018, 08:07:41 am
May I ask what is that evil phat dirty electronica soundtrack in the last few vids? I love it  :bounce: I will suss it out on my piano when I get home tomorrow. It simply has to be played!


It is called Grind it is from the collection available to Cyberlink power director 16 users.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: chrispearce on September 02, 2018, 11:08:47 am
Thanks for that. I will refer to your vids for the music. Got most of it worked out this morning. Like the layout. Must have taken a lot to erase the original figure-of-eight plan but if it just isn't working enthusiasm can suffer a tad!

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on September 05, 2018, 01:22:34 pm
 I know I said I must stop buying WR hydraulics but at £55 I could not resist this Green Class 35 Hymek.

(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/09/05/hy1.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/i8Kc)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on September 05, 2018, 04:19:14 pm
Please stop showing pics of your green Warship, Di, or I'll be forced to come down there and nick it! :telloff: ;)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on September 05, 2018, 05:02:59 pm
Kindly form a tidy, well behaved queue - behind me!

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on September 05, 2018, 06:12:05 pm
Please stop showing pics of your green Warship, Di, or I'll be forced to come down there and nick it! :telloff: ;)
Kindly form a tidy, well behaved queue - behind me!

Dave G

You better come prepared for a fight, I only have one Green one and am always on the look out for more.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on September 05, 2018, 09:12:15 pm
Please stop showing pics of your green Warship, Di, or I'll be forced to come down there and nick it! :telloff: ;)
Kindly form a tidy, well behaved queue - behind me!

Dave G

You better come prepared for a fight, I only have one Green one and am always on the look out for more.

 :whiteflag: I know when I'm beaten
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on September 06, 2018, 02:41:00 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/09/06/cd1.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/i7Lp)

The latest step on the scenic side of Plymbridge is my take on Ratio's Cattle Dock.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on September 09, 2018, 04:41:06 pm
1 year on and I am at last happy with the track/running of Plymbridge and I am well into the scenery now, work progresses there is still much to be done.



Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Papyrus on September 09, 2018, 05:09:28 pm
That is looking really impressive.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on September 09, 2018, 06:01:14 pm
Amazing progress Di and with a complete rebuild to boot!

I'm half way through year 3 and still mucking around with electrickery and only 50% ballasted.  :-[

Brilliant job.

Looking forward to the next update.

Dave G
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on September 13, 2018, 04:06:31 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/09/13/ee.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/iP0d)

A little more work done on the East end of the layout.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on September 14, 2018, 03:03:50 pm
I thought a change of pace was needed so I thought I would run freight for a change.

Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: dannyboy on September 14, 2018, 03:11:13 pm
Okay Di - innuffs innuff! Stop putting a lot of us to shame! When I am fully retired at Christmas .........................!
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Newportnobby on September 14, 2018, 04:23:26 pm
And of course 'that' Warship was in the foreground :stop: ;)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Hailstone on September 15, 2018, 12:20:25 am
Not meant as a criticism, but the barrier wagons on the oil tanks should be Vacuum fitted, preferably long wheel base.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Bealman on September 17, 2018, 05:27:48 am
First time I've checked in on Plymbridge for a while. Amazing progress! As Dannyboy says, you're putting a lot of us to shame!  :-[
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on September 19, 2018, 02:23:22 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/09/19/ee1.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/ib4l)

A little more work on the East end of Plymbridge, a little more grass, a few trees and a industrial back scene.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on September 22, 2018, 12:44:42 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/09/22/s1.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/ioWF)

I have been busy again adding to the back scene and adding one of Metcalfe's new generation laser cut kits, the station canopy, to Plymbridge Stations up platform. The new Metcalfe's kits are very much improved over the earlier ones and come with some rather useful building aids as part of the kit which in this case consist of a pre cut jig for the assembly of the 3 part leg units and a former to aid in the joining of the 4 sub sections together squarely. These simple aids are very efficient and simplify the construction process reducing the need for 3 hands at times.  :)
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: Ditape on September 24, 2018, 04:28:06 pm
(http://images.modelrailgroup.com/images/2018/09/24/s2.jpg) (http://images.modelrailgroup.com/image/i2Ey)

I have now added another canopy this one to the down platform, I have also just about finished adding to the town back scene behind the up platform, The posher Georgian section of town giving way to terraced housing and then industrial as we leave the station area. I now need to start working on the near side part of town and adding the usual bits and pieces to the platforms, (people, baggage, seating and general platform detritus.
Title: Re: Plym Bridge (my retirement project)
Post by: daveg on September 24, 2018, 05:13:19 pm
Great progress Di.

Thanks for the update.

Dave G