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Title: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on April 18, 2017, 11:43:52 pm
The original idea behind this layout was a simple track piece for testing and programming DCC locomotives, it quickly evolved into a inglenook style format with a second lane for stabling stock.  the aim was simple; have a small diorama type affair that I could attempt some scenic techniques and put under the bed when not in use.

The original board was two layers of card with some short lengths of wood to keep it rigid.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/4532-180417233453.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=51018)


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I added an extra lane and some other bits an pieces and was even considering buildings, the yard was now getting paved over, the second lane had been altered slightly and now included an inspection pit. But my dilemma was the buildings, just placing the board under the bed may not be the wisest of ideas.

I had a few box files that I'd taped together for a project in the past, I had the light bulb moment why not remove the wood off the base and simply glue the board into a box file?
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on April 18, 2017, 11:52:10 pm
Added paving to the coal yard.  The office is a kestral kit I've had for years and the coal staithes are an Ancorton kit.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/4532-180417234816.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=51021)
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on April 19, 2017, 12:00:06 am
Showing the whole box file with track, I've points on order to bring the two sidings together.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/4532-180417235715.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=51024)
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on April 19, 2017, 08:42:23 am
Track is now ballasted and the exiting bridge portal added.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/4532-190417083852.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=51033)
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on April 19, 2017, 12:13:16 pm
 :veryangry:  :sorrysign:
So that went well......

I'll try again.

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Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Only Me on April 19, 2017, 12:31:57 pm
@Moores-ee (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4532) hiya, in order to save using up the whole gallery  :o, when you upload a picture if it is in the wrong direction, open the gallery, click on "EDIT" on the picture and use the rotate box at the bottom under the picture of the window that opens please enter the number of degrees to rotate the pic by and hey presto the system will do the rest for you.  Save it and job done... You can also use your own gallery as opposed to the Random one if you like..

I've removed all your upside down loading's.
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on April 19, 2017, 12:45:45 pm
Hi Dave
Thanks for the advise, the problem is due to the EXIF information on my camera, so the picture is taken one way but the info in the file says otherwise.  Taken from a mobile phone at that angle.  I will only post images after I've processed them in future, I was going to remove the excess images after work as there is only so much you can cram in time wise! So thanks, you've saved me a job.

Cheers
Colin
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: RailGooner on April 19, 2017, 12:49:40 pm
Nice work Moores-ee. :thumbsup: I find these Box File layouts quite amazing.
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Only Me on April 19, 2017, 12:51:28 pm
@Moores-ee (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4532)  hi Colin, thats why we have the rotate box, so theres no need to process them first, you just rotate them to the correct angles on the forum.

I've made a sticky guide:-
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=37316.msg442601;topicseen#msg442601 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=37316.msg442601;topicseen#msg442601)

Cheers
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Jeremy Edwards on April 19, 2017, 03:04:00 pm
Really neat.
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on April 20, 2017, 12:13:23 am
I ordered medium points from Hattons. They arrived today so they are now fitted.  I've painted some track and laid some more ballast.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/4532-200417001215.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=51069)
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Jeremy Edwards on April 20, 2017, 08:23:37 am
I'm having issues with building up ground level.  I'm working very much to a budget so I have used Mounting Board sheets from The Works which are cheap but good quality.  I was either going to have ground level far to far below rail level with code 80 or slightly above which means that I have had to trim the card away from the rail slightly leaving a gap otherwise it lifts wheels clear of the track - ok with wagons but with locos it's not on.  I think I'm going to have to feed some filler material into the gap to make it loo more realistic and also do some ballasting where the raised ground level is at some points.  I also found that the steps on one of my locos fouled on the raised ground.  Neat (and more costly solution) would have been 2 layers of mounting board covered in embossed polystyrene sheet.  I think your design seems to avoid this. 
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on April 20, 2017, 09:58:33 am
Hi Jeremy
thanks for the feedback.
I use mounting card and Metcalf cobble and paving card, the bottom of the box is built up with 2 layers of mounting card as a laminate and I had to do that over a couple of nights with the larger areas,as I weighed the card down as the PVA dried.  The Yard is built up with a layer of mounting card butted up to the sleepers, then another layer which went as far as the fasteners/feet. The final printed layer was against the track, which sits barely noticeably above the card.
Inside the rails is a single layer of mounting card with the printed card above it.
I have done this once before with plasticard and embossed sheet but to be honest I prefer working with card.

You could use cereal box card as the top layer/s it is a thinner than the metcalf card but it could be painted afterwards.

Cheers
Colin
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Jeremy Edwards on April 20, 2017, 11:33:28 am
Thanks for that.  That's where I went wrong.  Doing a dry run it all seemed fine until glue was applied and the top layer is a bit too thick now it has settled.  I can fill the gap with some filler and clean the rails off for the main area but I'm still working out what to do around the points.  I will ballast with very, very fine sand and then see what I can do when i start to build up the rest of the landscape.  I've put in some Peco platform edging ready for the tiny one/two coach station and am going to build u that area with card too - linking it to the wharf.  The wharf will be fenced and gated off from the rest of the scenic area eventually too.
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Biggy on April 20, 2017, 11:55:11 am
Hi Colin
Really interesting layout. I love these small ones.
Also good inf re raising the yard area level with the track I have a dock areaI want to do the same with so will try your suggestion  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on April 20, 2017, 11:12:42 pm
Hi Biggy
No problem, hope it goes well, I use basic PVA but in this instance I "painted" it across the board quite thinly. I think this really helped with the drying of the card, but also kept the added bulk of the glue down as well, it's holding well though and even survived being flexed (by accident).

Cheers
Colin
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: idglover on April 22, 2017, 09:44:55 am
Looking good - will be interesting to see it develop.
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on April 26, 2017, 10:51:27 pm
I need to finish the track work but couldn't face more ballast.
So I finished the bridge portal instead!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/4532-260417224957.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=51391)
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: PeteW on April 27, 2017, 01:52:32 am
I need to finish the track work but couldn't face more ballast.
So I finished the bridge portal instead!

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Looks like a good decision to me!
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Jeremy Edwards on April 27, 2017, 10:53:40 am
That bridge is looking great.  I've been given a couple of boxes of Ratio kit 'bits' which I am currently rummaging through for my background.  I need to build a low relief canal bridge on my end scene and am planning something like your bridge on a smaller scale.
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on April 28, 2017, 12:30:16 am
Honest to God, I was going to do some more work on the permanent way. No really.

I couldn't face it to be honest. So I scratch built a panel fence using a preview picture from a famous diy store. Then Base coated a garden and built the fence, laid two paths, planted a hedge and fitted some street lights! Anyway, see below for the fruits of my labour.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/4532-280417002432.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=51445)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/4532-280417002600.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=51446)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/4532-280417002712.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=51447)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/4532-280417002823.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=51448)
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on May 27, 2017, 10:27:19 am
I've not done anything for a few weeks. But these turned up yesterday:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/4532-270517101648.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52229)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/4532-270517101813.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52230)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/4532-270517102156.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52231)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/4532-270517102301.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52232)

So I need to finish the track work and I can get some more scenery on the board!
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Bealman on May 27, 2017, 10:34:41 am
Not sure what they are, etched brass gates? Should look good made up!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Jeremy Edwards on May 27, 2017, 10:37:10 am
Have fun putting then together.
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on May 27, 2017, 11:38:17 am
They are all laser cut card or wood, not properly investigated yet as they look very fragile.
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Jeremy Edwards on May 27, 2017, 12:35:35 pm
A careful study followed by 'slowly and steadily' is going to be the best bet.  Love to see them made up.
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on May 29, 2017, 11:39:24 pm
Yes, slow and steady. Made up 3 gates and planted some more hedge. The far right of the layout is now taking shape. I was going to finish balasting the track tonight, never mind.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/4532-290517233426.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52296)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/4532-290517233538.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52297)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/4532-290517233634.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52298)

The track needs to be completed and ground prepared before I plant the wire security fence.
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on May 29, 2017, 11:50:33 pm
On another note. I saw this yesterday and just had to buy it!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/4532-290517234947.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52299)
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: RailGooner on May 30, 2017, 12:39:04 am
On another note. I saw this yesterday and just had to buy it!

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/4532-290517234947.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=52299[/url])


So far I've managed to resist the same temptation. But I suppose if one is of a certain era, and I am, so it's only a matter of time before I cave. :D

I'm liking the topiary too. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: hatter3127 on September 11, 2017, 12:04:52 am
Nice to see somebody has the same "work ethic" to some jobs me! I honest to goodness put off building a hill, and then took the longest time to flock / static grass it as I was putting it off!!! Glad I did it now, and love my little static grass applicator tool but... Yeah some times you've just gotta bite the bullet right!
Loving seeing the laser etched gates. Been thinking about getting some but not (until today) seen anybody using them. Are they easy to put together?
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on December 06, 2017, 10:15:09 pm
Hi Hatter
Sorry for the delay. I've been busy with other stuff. Basically the gates were fiddly but I think worth the effort. Stain them be building them though.

Cheers
Colin
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on February 20, 2018, 12:11:12 am
After not doing much for quite some time I have finally got round to doing some work on the coal yard that the layout is named after.
I've added some brick walls and a bit of barbed wire that is to be honest a bit too shiny. The buffer stops, office and staithes are now glued down.  I have added some weeds and filled the staithes with coal.

So some pictures:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/4532-190218235250.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/4532-200218000031.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/4532-200218000300.jpeg)
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on April 13, 2018, 11:56:11 pm
So with some more ballast laid I find that I have two different grey ballasts!
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Newportnobby on April 14, 2018, 08:44:23 am
Sounds quite prototypical to me :)
Title: Re: Boxall Coal Yard
Post by: Moores-ee on April 14, 2018, 11:19:05 am
Yeah, the second lot is considerably finer and I wish I'd spotted that first!

Ho hum...  :D