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Title: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 09, 2017, 07:43:56 pm
Hello all,

Some of you may recognise me as the guy from the Flordon Heritage Railway thread!

As I am away at university for multiple months at a time, I have decided to start a small layout project separate from Flordon which is slowly but surely developing at home (400+ miles away)!

As yet I have the baseboard dimensions (100cmx25cm) and two possible track plans as below:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-090117193638.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47145)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-090117193653.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47146)

The rear line will be a much reduce station that once had a return loop but this has since been removed, leaving the single track behind. The old line will be represented by overgrown sleepers etc.

The front set of sidings will be storage and stabling facilities for the mainline (off scene) with a very overgrown look as I want to experiment with different techniques. The photo below helps illustrate the feel I want to go for:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-090117194303.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47147)

In the second image I have added a head shunt to allow a small industry (either current or former) access to the railway. This may be modelled as derelict for scenic interest, leaving the yard available for loco storage between duties!

Well, that was the intro to the new layout! Despite not finalising the trackplan, I will build the boards very soon as I can only allow myself that amount of space so the track has to work around it!

I'll keep you all posted!

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: newportnobby on January 09, 2017, 07:50:30 pm
I think V2 with the headshunt will prove more interesting, Alex.
Are you intending this as a static diorama or will you be running trains into the scenery, presumably from L to R?
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 09, 2017, 07:54:30 pm
Thanks, I am definitely leaning towards that option as its going to be fully operational. The grey block is going to be a bridge with a gravel track running down to a sleeper crossing to the yard area with network rail vans and all!
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: port perran on January 09, 2017, 08:17:43 pm
I'd also opt for V2.
Good luck with the build but please don't let it interfere withyour studies!
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 09, 2017, 08:30:46 pm
Thanks for the comments guys! I will ensure my copious essay writing comes first but it will be nice having something small to work on as a break when needed! I have worked on a baseboard plan and imported the track plan into the design and thus a 3D design is created:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-090117202920.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47152)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-090117202932.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47153)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-090117202945.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47154)

Thanks guys, comments always welcome, either good or constructive!

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Nick on January 09, 2017, 08:49:28 pm
Mine's a vote for V2 as well.

How did you do the 3D design?
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: robert shrives on January 09, 2017, 08:50:25 pm
Hi ,
Have a think about operating - will you be front operating - visually better I guess but would think you will find backscene a pain blocking yard - if it were to lift out it might work better for you.

I really like the plan and the ability to shuffle stock about will aid the mental powers for study... well that was my excuse many years ago!

Robert     
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 09, 2017, 08:52:13 pm
Mine's a vote for V2 as well.

How did you do the 3D design?

Thanks, I think thats settled then:)

I used a mixture of Anyrail for the trackplan then Sketchup for the 3D design, together they create quite a handy tool! However, I still use sketching as a way of envisaging my ideas!

Hi ,
Have a think about operating - will you be front operating - visually better I guess but would think you will find backscene a pain blocking yard - if it were to lift out it might work better for you.

I really like the plan and the ability to shuffle stock about will aid the mental powers for study... well that was my excuse many years ago!

Robert     

Thanks for that, I will have a think about it and have a play around with some ideas:)

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 09, 2017, 09:00:50 pm
I have been looking up the wood needed for the baseboard.....it adds up to the student-friendly sum of £10! I will need screws/glue as well but I am still pretty pleased with how affordable it will be!
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: robert shrives on January 09, 2017, 09:07:15 pm
Have you considered dense insulating foam and art cardboard. might get free offcut from building site?
cheers
Robert
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 09, 2017, 09:11:27 pm
I may have a look around, thanks. I have a good shop nearby that does literally everything so they may have something of use!

If not, I will take a walk to the local B and Q and buy wood as I think they cut it for free, at least a certain amount of cuts! Annoyingly, I have no hammer at uni so will have to invest in one haha! Unless anyone else has an easy way to make lead holes for small screws?

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Nick on January 09, 2017, 09:19:49 pm

I used a mixture of Anyrail for the trackplan then Sketchup for the 3D design, together they create quite a handy tool! However, I still use sketching as a way of envisaging my ideas!

Thanks - I could see the trackplan had come out of AnyRail, but wondered about the 3D bit. I just had a quick look on the Sketchup site, but was bit confused by the versions. Is there a free one?

Hi ,
Have a think about operating - will you be front operating - visually better I guess but would think you will find backscene a pain blocking yard - if it were to lift out it might work better for you.

I've come to the same conclusion for my layout - I want a backscene, but I think it's going to be a pain to operate with it there sometimes, because my layout is against a wall. I'm just about to set off trying to install something. I've bought some brass channelling and I intend slotting thin modelling ply into it. I'm a little worried about it's structural solidity, but we'll see.

Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Hailstone on January 09, 2017, 09:20:26 pm
I may have a look around, thanks. I have a good shop nearby that does literally everything so they may have something of use!

If not, I will take a walk to the local B and Q and buy wood as I think they cut it for free, at least a certain amount of cuts! Annoyingly, I have no hammer at uni so will have to invest in one haha! Unless anyone else has an easy way to make lead holes for small screws?

Cheers,

Alex

B & Q still do a certain number of cuts free, I availed myself of the service on Saturday

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 09, 2017, 09:24:18 pm

I used a mixture of Anyrail for the trackplan then Sketchup for the 3D design, together they create quite a handy tool! However, I still use sketching as a way of envisaging my ideas!

Thanks - I could see the trackplan had come out of AnyRail, but wondered about the 3D bit. I just had a quick look on the Sketchup site, but was bit confused by the versions. Is there a free one?

Hi ,
Have a think about operating - will you be front operating - visually better I guess but would think you will find backscene a pain blocking yard - if it were to lift out it might work better for you.

I've come to the same conclusion for my layout - I want a backscene, but I think it's going to be a pain to operate with it there sometimes, because my layout is against a wall. I'm just about to set off trying to install something. I've bought some brass channelling and I intend slotting thin modelling ply into it. I'm a little worried about it's structural solidity, but we'll see.



There should indeed be a free version. I think it is run by a company called Trimble now so maybe try searching them?
I may have a look around, thanks. I have a good shop nearby that does literally everything so they may have something of use!

If not, I will take a walk to the local B and Q and buy wood as I think they cut it for free, at least a certain amount of cuts! Annoyingly, I have no hammer at uni so will have to invest in one haha! Unless anyone else has an easy way to make lead holes for small screws?

Cheers,

Alex

B & Q still do a certain number of cuts free, I availed myself of the service on Saturday

Regards,

Alex

Thanks for confirming that! Nice to see a fellow Alex haha!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Mito on January 09, 2017, 09:33:17 pm
I like version 2 as well. Could you fit a run round in to give a bit more flexibility?
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 09, 2017, 10:09:46 pm
I have set myself a very strict budget and points are expensive so I may possibly be able to stretch to a third point but it's looking unlikely at the moment! I want to see how little I can make a working layout for!!

Thanks,
Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 09, 2017, 10:12:35 pm
I'm looking forward to seeing this new layout develop. (At your usual brisk pace, I expect.)
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 09, 2017, 10:17:09 pm
Alex

Excuse me going slightly off topic, although I think your designs are very good.

As a former engineering student can I remind you that your priorities should be beer, women, more beer, more women, food, sleep, the odd lecture and cramming for exams in the last week, or have students lost the plot in the last thirty years.  :D

 :beers:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: lil chris on January 09, 2017, 10:30:02 pm
Nice plan Alex, I see were you are coming from with the yard surface and why you will want something similar. It will be nice seeing this layout progress.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 10, 2017, 12:13:30 pm
Hello all,

Thanks for the comments, this thread seems to have taken off very quickly! I have been measuring the space I have available and it turns out 90cm is the max it can be really so I have had to cut a little of the length but I don't think it will have any major disadvantages....it is meant to be a micro-layout anyway! 

I'm looking forward to seeing this new layout develop. (At your usual brisk pace, I expect.)

Thanks, well I am off to get the wood this evening so should get a baseboard built by tomorrow!

Alex

Excuse me going slightly off topic, although I think your designs are very good.

As a former engineering student can I remind you that your priorities should be beer, women, more beer, more women, food, sleep, the odd lecture and cramming for exams in the last week, or have students lost the plot in the last thirty years.  :D

 :beers:

Haha thats alright, lets just say everything in moderation! :beers:

Nice plan Alex, I see were you are coming from with the yard surface and why you will want something similar. It will be nice seeing this layout progress.

Thanks, yeah I will either need it for the double siding or the single siding (or both) so I will give it a try!

I will keep you all updated with photos as I go:)

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 10, 2017, 12:21:55 pm
Thanks, Alex. Looking forward to the updates.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 10, 2017, 12:25:27 pm
Here is the latest plan:

I am not sure whether to raise the rear lines up to allow the sidings to be framed with a bit of an embankment or if to leave it all at the same level, any ideas?


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-100117122508.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47159)

Thanks,
Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 10, 2017, 12:29:47 pm
Have you thought about a rotating fiddle yard?


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3761-100117122755.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47160)
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 10, 2017, 12:33:31 pm
Thanks for the idea and maybe on a future layout but this one needs to be as cheap and small as possible plus my woodworking skill is not great! I would love to give that a go in the future though!
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 10, 2017, 12:40:07 pm
I'd definitely raise the rear lines up to allow the sidings to be framed with a bit of an embankment which will make it more scenically attractive.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 10, 2017, 12:41:46 pm
I'd definitely raise the rear lines up to allow the sidings to be framed with a bit of an embankment which will make it more scenically attractive.

Thanks for that, I will go for it then, though I will have to redesign how the bridge (scenic break) will work but thats all part of the fun, eh?

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 10, 2017, 01:01:27 pm
Hi Alex, nice looking layout. In the absence of a hammer have you thought about getting a gimlet - the proper device for making pilot screw holes! B n Q have one for £2.85.

As an ex engineering student I can only agree with snowwolflair, although not sure that food and sleep are in the right order. Beer has a lot of calories  :D
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 10, 2017, 08:36:31 pm
Hello all,

Hi Alex, nice looking layout. In the absence of a hammer have you thought about getting a gimlet - the proper device for making pilot screw holes! B n Q have one for £2.85.

As an ex engineering student I can only agree with snowwolflair, although not sure that food and sleep are in the right order. Beer has a lot of calories  :D

I can only say thank you! I bought the exact gimlet and it worked a treat!

I have now completed the baseboard and I am pleased with how it has come out despite the spontaneity of the whole project!
This is the board under construction on the kitchen table haha!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-100117201914.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47183)

I have attached all the backscenes but the two sections that obscure the fiddle yard are a separate section for now as I need to cut the entrance to the fiddle yard into the small end!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-100117201745.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47180)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-100117201842.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47181)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-100117201857.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47182)

I have also designed it to fit neatly on my cupboard so its out the way when not in use:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-100117201704.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47179)

I still have not decided exactly how I will model the layout, I am leaning towards a more overgrown urban scene with plenty of weed-ridden rails and decaying sleepers with a worn retaining wall in the background! Anyway I will keep you updated as the ideas progress! 

Thanks,

Alex

Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: newportnobby on January 10, 2017, 08:52:08 pm
Jeepers! That's a humongous sized iron in the last pic :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 10, 2017, 08:54:55 pm
 
Jeepers! That's a humongous sized iron in the last pic :goggleeyes:
Hahah it is indeed;) It actually a my favourite surfboard that can only be stored there as there's no space anywhere else!
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 10, 2017, 08:55:12 pm
Jeepers! That's a humongous sized iron in the last pic :goggleeyes:

But at least he drinks Bombay G&T
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 10, 2017, 08:58:05 pm
But at least he drinks Bombay G&T

Haha thats actually one of my housemates', honestly!
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 10, 2017, 09:30:40 pm
I'd definitely raise the rear lines up to allow the sidings to be framed with a bit of an embankment which will make it more scenically attractive.

Thanks for that, I will go for it then, though I will have to redesign how the bridge (scenic break) will work but that's all part of the fun, eh?

Thanks,

Alex

It will be worth the extra work, Alex, as it will add to the 'depth' of the scene. I have a small embankment (some scrap balsa wood covered with sandless tile grout, paint, scatter, etc.) to take the Castle branch out of the goods yard at Cant Cove up over the road and then through a cutting.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 10, 2017, 09:35:19 pm
I would definitely go for the more overgrown urban scene with plenty of weed-ridden rails and decaying sleepers and a worn retaining wall in the background. It will be excellent practice. There is an excellent small layout of a South Wales colliery loading sidings area on the forum well worth studying (sorry, I forget the name).
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: NOE 544R on January 10, 2017, 11:53:42 pm
I would definitely go for the more overgrown urban scene with plenty of weed-ridden rails and decaying sleepers and a worn retaining wall in the background. It will be excellent practice. There is an excellent small layout of a South Wales colliery loading sidings area on the forum well worth studying (sorry, I forget the name).

I'd second this! Given the depth of the boards this would create a nice atmosphere. Cracking to discover another uni student on here too!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: newportnobby on January 11, 2017, 09:29:32 am
There is an excellent small layout of a South Wales colliery loading sidings area on the forum well worth studying (sorry, I forget the name).


I'm sure you mean this one, Chris......................
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.msg377203#msg377203 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.msg377203#msg377203)
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 11, 2017, 10:34:44 am
Hello all,

I would definitely go for the more overgrown urban scene with plenty of weed-ridden rails and decaying sleepers and a worn retaining wall in the background. It will be excellent practice. There is an excellent small layout of a South Wales colliery loading sidings area on the forum well worth studying (sorry, I forget the name).


Thanks, I will do some research today for some reference photos so I can finalise the design and get the raised section built:)

I'd second this! Given the depth of the boards this would create a nice atmosphere. Cracking to discover another uni student on here too!  :thumbsup:


Thanks for that, I will definitely go down this route then! Haha yeah, there's not many of us on here!

There is an excellent small layout of a South Wales colliery loading sidings area on the forum well worth studying (sorry, I forget the name).


I'm sure you mean this one, Chris......................
[url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.msg377203#msg377203[/url] ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.msg377203#msg377203[/url])

Thanks Chris and Newport, I have looked at that thread many times for inspiration! Its a great idea for a small layout!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: port perran on January 11, 2017, 10:41:35 am
Looking to be a great little project.
Looking forward to pictures in due course.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Steve Purves on January 11, 2017, 11:07:52 am
Looking good. sounds similar to what I did with APA park...
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 11, 2017, 11:11:46 am
Looking good. sounds similar to what I did with APA park... :NGaugersRule:
Thanks Steve, I have just looked up Apa Park and it really is similar! I hope you don't mind me following in a similar direction!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: DCCDave on January 11, 2017, 11:43:12 am
Alex

Excuse me going slightly off topic, although I think your designs are very good.

As a former engineering student can I remind you that your priorities should be beer, women, more beer, more women, food, sleep, the odd lecture and cramming for exams in the last week, or have students lost the plot in the last thirty years.  :D

 :beers:

Yep you have to pay for it yourself now. When I followed your recipe at Uni I had a grant. Happy days :)

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 11, 2017, 11:45:59 am
Alex

Excuse me going slightly off topic, although I think your designs are very good.

As a former engineering student can I remind you that your priorities should be beer, women, more beer, more women, food, sleep, the odd lecture and cramming for exams in the last week, or have students lost the plot in the last thirty years.  :D

 :beers:


Yep you have to pay for it yourself now. When I followed your recipe at Uni I had a grant. Happy days :)

Cheers
Dave

But at least he can now ask a girl back to do a bit of shunting. :D :bounce: :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Steve Purves on January 11, 2017, 01:18:49 pm
Looking good. sounds similar to what I did with APA park... :NGaugersRule:
Thanks Steve, I have just looked up Apa Park and it really is similar! I hope you don't mind me following in a similar direction!

Cheers,

Alex

Please do, its always nice to see similar layouts!
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 11, 2017, 05:25:42 pm
Hello all,

I have been working on a 3D artistic impression today and I hope it illustrates how I envisage it! Excuse the garish colours and unrealistic scenery (the program is not great in this sense) but I think it gives a good idea of space!
 
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-110117172410.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47187)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-110117172441.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47188)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-110117172501.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47189)
Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Mito on January 11, 2017, 05:45:51 pm
That looks great. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 11, 2017, 05:52:20 pm
Very nice, Alex and many thanks, Nobby. That is indeed the excellent little layout I meant.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 11, 2017, 09:07:46 pm
Hello all,

Thanks for the comments:)

I have finished most of the woodwork today so the upper level is all made and it fits nicely. It gives the layout its very first sense of atmosphere! I will take some more photos of the modular way in which the upper level is constructed tomorrow but for now here's some photos of it altogether! Excuse the mess on the table!

I have also posed my out-of-action DRS Class 20 on the upper level for scale and I thought it deserved some time out of the box despite not working haha!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-110117210432.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47193)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-110117210536.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47194)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-110117210655.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47195)

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 12, 2017, 09:05:38 pm
Hello all,

I have begun on the very first bits of structural scenery today: platforms and retaining walls!

I have done two of about sixteen retaining wall sections. I used my usual Fimo method and each brick is individually hand scored! I think they have come out well for a first try. There will be a pillar covering the join but these two have just been posed for the photo:)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-120117210314.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47229)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-120117210335.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47230)

I have also started one of the platforms, not sure whether I'll keep it or not but its useful for knowing how the scene will look. I have decided that the upper level will be an old station that is being reduced to a single track/platform, a cameo being engineers removing old track and the front platform!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-120117210413.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47231)

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Mito on January 12, 2017, 09:20:23 pm
Out of interest, are you studying Model Railway engineering? :D
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 12, 2017, 09:21:48 pm
Excellent scenic work there, Alex.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: newportnobby on January 12, 2017, 09:59:20 pm
Let he who cast the first stone make a damned good job of it :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Bealman on January 12, 2017, 10:10:03 pm
I love the stonework and the platform surfaces look great.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Dock Shunter on January 12, 2017, 10:24:35 pm
Very nice start.....I like the ideas you have for this one..... :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: lil chris on January 13, 2017, 10:19:43 am
Looking good,the stonework and the platform looks good.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 13, 2017, 09:02:20 pm
Hello all,

I have continued with wall construction today! I think it looks quite good so far, plenty to do but getting there....slowly!

I have not stuck anything down yet but posed it for some photos and I think it gives a good idea of what it will look like! I even painted some graffiti which I think adds a bit of colour!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205838.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47301)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205907.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47302)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205919.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47303)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205934.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47304)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205957.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47305)

Here is a short method of the wall construction:

Firstly, the Fimo is prepared and mounted with superglue onto the card:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205552.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47298)

Secondly, the lines are scored with a ruler and blade:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205651.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47299)

Then the arch is mounted and weathering powder brushed on. Finally, I paint it with a mix of yellows and blacks to achieve the effect:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205726.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47300)


Thanks and I look forward to hearing what you think!

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Mito on January 13, 2017, 10:03:49 pm
Looking excellent.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: port perran on January 14, 2017, 07:26:50 am
Thats a very good job indeed.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 14, 2017, 12:05:48 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks for the informative updates &  :greatpicturessign: looking good
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Steamie+ on January 15, 2017, 08:05:16 am
I'd definitely raise the rear lines up to allow the sidings to be framed with a bit of an embankment which will make it more scenically attractive.

Agree with Chris, it would have a more scenic look and a bit more enjoyable for you has well.    :beers:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Steamie+ on January 15, 2017, 08:18:42 am
Hello all,

I have continued with wall construction today! I think it looks quite good so far, plenty to do but getting there....slowly!

I have not stuck anything down yet but posed it for some photos and I think it gives a good idea of what it will look like! I even painted some graffiti which I think adds a bit of colour!
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205838.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47301[/url])

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205907.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47302[/url])

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205919.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47303[/url])

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205934.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47304[/url])

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205957.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47305[/url])

Here is a short method of the wall construction:

Firstly, the Fimo is prepared and mounted with superglue onto the card:
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205552.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47298[/url])

Secondly, the lines are scored with a ruler and blade:
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205651.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47299[/url])

Then the arch is mounted and weathering powder brushed on. Finally, I paint it with a mix of yellows and blacks to achieve the effect:
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-130117205726.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47300[/url])


Thanks and I look forward to hearing what you think!

Alex


That is really nice modelling Alex, really love the way you do things, the retaining walls are excellent, waiting for this to be finished, but please donít neglect your studies. Hope anything is going well for you at Uni.      :beers:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 15, 2017, 02:39:55 pm
Excellent work Alex.

Like the graffiti, but I hope that the artist responsible doesn't find their way to my layout.  ;)

My guess is that you are studying some form of design / art at Uni??
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 15, 2017, 03:54:24 pm
Thanks for the comments, I love hearing what you all think!
Excellent work Alex.

Like the graffiti, but I hope that the artist responsible doesn't find their way to my layout.  ;)

My guess is that you are studying some form of design / art at Uni??

Thanks Keith! I am actually studying for BA in Politics and International Relations! Modelling is purely for relaxtion:)

I have done a little more on the layout today and started the bridge so will upload some photos later on today:)

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 15, 2017, 09:09:09 pm
Hello all,

I have extended the platform to its final length (the side that won't be being demolished!) and clad one of the bridge sides and made its support pillar! I think it's slowly starting to come together! I may get some track for the top level and some ballast so I can really crack on with it! As the budget is very, very tight I cannot justify the points for the lower section yet, thus the lower level track will have to wait! Anyway, on with photos:

This is the bridge so far, its not perfect but once all the scenery around it is in I think it will look markedly better:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-150117210342.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47409)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-150117210313.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47408)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-150117210410.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47411)

It may be hard to notice a change here but I have (a) finished the full length of retaining walls and glued them in and (b) covered the joins with brick pillars which makes them look far more like a continuous piece!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-150117210358.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47410)

Finally the platform has been extended to its full length and is waiting the rest of the wall behind! I will try and attempt the other platform soon as I need to attempt methods of modelling platform being dug up!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-150117210422.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47412)

Many thanks, I look forward to your ideas and comments!

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: robert shrives on January 15, 2017, 09:43:05 pm
Hi,
Closed platforms often had the edge flagstones tipped over and or removed leaving a recess and a broken wall top- and in a few weeks a good growth of weeds and small trees - now with NRs careful horticultural skills big trees abound- silver birch, Budlia and japanese knotweed around new works.

So you could build an other platform sans edge - perhaps a small  digger and a gang of the orange army watching the work , at best a couple of wagons being loaded alongside - no need to have loco as digger able to move them.

Robert     
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 15, 2017, 09:51:01 pm
Thanks for that, I hadn't thought of that about the edging stones, I will give it a go! I was planning on having the track lifted to a certain point as well, enough to allow a couple of wagons. Any ideas on where to get such a small digger?

I also need to figure out how people would get to the station, it needs a plausible entrance! Also, would this sort of terminus have a platform at the end, joining the two side platforms, if that makes sense?

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: newportnobby on January 16, 2017, 09:20:36 am
Hi,
Closed platforms often had the edge flagstones tipped over and or removed leaving a recess and a broken wall top- and in a few weeks a good growth of weeds and small trees - now with NRs careful horticultural skills big trees abound- silver birch, Budlia and japanese knotweed around new works.

So you could build an other platform sans edge - perhaps a small  digger and a gang of the orange army watching the work , at best a couple of wagons being loaded alongside - no need to have loco as digger able to move them.

Robert     

A couple of nice digs in your post, Robert ;D
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: robert shrives on January 16, 2017, 02:56:52 pm
No really ! ::) ;D You should see the Snow hill- Leamington flower and plant show
!!!!!
Digger by Wiking or Prieser - good for folk aswell.

If your station was a terminal then quite plausible to have end joined, if a through then , bridge, subway and a surface planked crossing for barrows. In Urban areas a nearby bridge with steps or ramp possibly  high level building with steps down - you could have this on the otherside of bridge with steps etc "offscene and a low relief or flat station frontage. - One cheat might be mirror under the bridge makes platform look longer!     
Robert   
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 16, 2017, 03:13:37 pm
As it is a very short platform, I do not think making it a terminus with the platform across the end will look right. Seeing that you possess or are possessed with great scenic skills you should try and give the impression that the station was bigger and has been truncated. Place a buffer stop and then have lifted track for a very short distance on the other side.

Perhaps install a canopy end on the right hand side to suggest an overall roof... Scalescenes ?

I would suggest that passenger sorry customer access would be from the old entrance further along the platform.

Jerry
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 16, 2017, 03:27:52 pm
As it is a very short platform, I do not think making it a terminus with the platform across the end will look right. Seeing that you possess or are possessed with great scenic skills you should try and give the impression that the station was bigger and has been truncated. Place a buffer stop and then have lifted track for a very short distance on the other side.

Perhaps install a canopy end on the right hand side to suggest an overall roof... Scalescenes ?

I would suggest that passenger sorry customer access would be from the old entrance further along the platform.

Jerry
No really ! ::) ;D You should see the Snow hill- Leamington flower and plant show
!!!!!
Digger by Wiking or Prieser - good for folk aswell.

If your station was a terminal then quite plausible to have end joined, if a through then , bridge, subway and a surface planked crossing for barrows. In Urban areas a nearby bridge with steps or ramp possibly  high level building with steps down - you could have this on the otherside of bridge with steps etc "offscene and a low relief or flat station frontage. - One cheat might be mirror under the bridge makes platform look longer!     
Robert   

Thank you so much for your input guys, it is really appreciated! I am taking aspects of both your advice on-board (excuse the pun!). I will use the idea of a truncated platform with the buffer stop with a little track behind it and will incorporate access to the station with the scenic break through use of a girder bridge with step access down to both platforms, as shown in the very quick mock up with card:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-160117152709.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47438)

The bridge will continue to the right (the card to hand wasn't long enough!) and will carry a road with pavement/station signs etc It will give the impression that he station used to continue the other side.

I hope this will make it all look more plausible whilst achieving the look I want!

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 16, 2017, 08:34:43 pm
Hello all,

I have worked on the new bridge today which acts as a scenic break. I have decided access to the station will probably be off scene as to not clutter the platform too much! The colour of the bridge is fairly vivid but I feel it makes a nice contrast with the older grey/sand coloured London brick. It is not finished yet but looks good in situ:)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-160117202807.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47447)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-160117202825.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47448)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-160117202951.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47449)

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: newportnobby on January 16, 2017, 08:44:44 pm
The girder bridge looks good, Alex, and is also a prime target for some graffiti ;)
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: port perran on January 16, 2017, 08:45:43 pm
I think the colour works well and the rusting is e  ellent.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 16, 2017, 08:50:59 pm
The girder bridge looks good, Alex, and is also a prime target for some graffiti ;)

Indeed, its the first thing on the list to do tomorrow! Just got to think what to write in what colour haha!

I think the colour works well and the rusting is e  ellent.

Thanks, its amazing how rust can really bring things to life!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: robert shrives on January 16, 2017, 09:47:20 pm
  :greatpicturessign:
Wow in time I took to blather on you built a bridge and colouring is just right. I respectfully suggest a second pier built into the retaining wall as that is a big span for a single girder given it has a building partially hung from it.- also helps the view blocker , another artistic suggestion is to mount bridge out of parallel to back scene, as you risk a rigid angle fest whereas real world is far from square.
perhaps narrow at front out to wide at rear with the hint of the station frontage.
buffer stop could be just in its shadow as you say at hinting of more beyond. I think Snow Hill in Brum ended its first period like that, and Bradford Forster sq not much better.
Robert             
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: newportnobby on January 16, 2017, 10:14:49 pm

Indeed, its the first thing on the list to do tomorrow! Just got to think what to write in what colour haha!

Surely the first thing would be "Alex luvs [insert name here]" and I don't mean the TV programme :no: ;)
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 16, 2017, 10:45:58 pm
Now if it was a Glasgow layout you would need a 'Tongs ya Bas'. 

For those of you not familiar with Glasgow slang can I redirect you to Wikipedia.

Needles to say the Tongs motif was painted copiously on the tunnels and elevated sections south of Glasgow Central in the 1960/70's.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Steamie+ on January 17, 2017, 05:03:56 am
 :wonderful modelling: Alex, you are a very skilled person indeed, just love the build. Bet you canít wait to put some track down when funds become available. I bet it will look even more impressive when there is some greenery done. Keep it coming Alex, i really love seeing your work.    :beers:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: weave on January 17, 2017, 05:25:13 am
Hi Alex,

Great stuff. Very jealous.

Graffiti suggestion...Weave's layout SUCKS!  :(

Keep up the good work.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 17, 2017, 08:24:30 pm
Hi all,

I have been progressing with the abandoned platform, the tunnel portal and the station frontage for on the blue bridge.  I am not sure if I am happy with the building to be honest so any thoughts good or bad will be appreciated! The road is far from finished: further lines will be added along with other details and most importantly vehicles at a later stage! The whole scene needs some life but until the budget is bigger, that will be have to wait! Furthermore, I think the whole board needs track, ballast and foliage to make it look a lot better!
 
The platform looking suitably decrepit I think! There will be plenty of debris around as well as workers and machinery!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-170117201512.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47480)

As I said I am not sure about the scene on the bridge or the building, let me know what you think:)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-170117201531.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47481)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-170117201643.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47483)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-170117201718.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47485)

The tunnel will have foliage and weeds on top, hence the gap between it and the backscene.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-170117201659.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47484)

A nice little shot from on top of the tunnel!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-170117201734.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47486)

An overhead shot that captures it all together, still lots to do!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-170117201549.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47482)


Thank you all for your graffiti ideas, I am sure some will pop up as time goes on! I have added the poll so I can see what you all think so hopefully I'll get some useful votes!

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: newportnobby on January 17, 2017, 09:16:17 pm
I think you are making a blinding job of creating a decrepit run down area, Alex. Keep up the good work and, as a final act, spread litter everywhere.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Steamie+ on January 18, 2017, 05:43:26 am
I think you are making a blinding job of creating a decrepit run down area, Alex. Keep up the good work and, as a final act, spread litter everywhere.

Great idea   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Bealman on January 18, 2017, 06:07:26 am
Coming along brilliantly.  :thumbsup:

Reminds me of a layout I saw in the model railway press a few years ago (can't remember the Mag or name of layout  :-[). A run down terminus in the Seventies.

Probably a prototype from where I used to live, when I think about it  :uneasy:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Steamie+ on January 18, 2017, 06:11:55 am
There is a video on Youtube about a lady who has done just that with brilliant little newspapers and stuff to make a scene has if rubbish bins have been knocked over and the wind has blown them into the gutters, canít for the life of me remember who it was, this old memory is getting worse lol    :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 18, 2017, 02:58:01 pm
I think your station entrance on the bridge looks suitably "uninviting" like you would use this station after dark...no!!

 :thumbsup: >:D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Drakken on January 18, 2017, 03:50:04 pm
This is one epic looking layout, The derelict platform is stunning, Fantastic work  :beers:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 18, 2017, 08:44:51 pm
Hi all,

I have not done much modelling today due to being out and work but I have done a new track plan! I have received an offer for some track to help me out from someone on the forum and for that I must say a huge thank you, the benefits of being a member of such a great group of people!

Therefore, I have more points than originally planned at my disposal and so I think I will use the following plan:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-180117204248.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47527)

I like the packed nature of the bottom half as it adds to the idea of a once-busy-now-barely used sidings complex. I am not sure whether to keep the points on the top half or not: my idea is that the original two lines were reduced to one but with a two track station and then when the other platform was closed the second line was reduced and kept just to allow wagons for platform disposal access to the line! If that all makes sense!

Thanks and hopefully more modelling tomorrow!

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Mito on January 18, 2017, 09:00:34 pm
That makes sense! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 18, 2017, 09:03:14 pm
It seems like a lot of track but I think as its split into two levels I think it will looked suitably claustrophobic without looking out of place:)
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 19, 2017, 08:23:51 pm
Hi all,

I have decided to change how the station looks! Thanks for your votes, I will be keeping the whole bridge, road and station size, just changing the frontage!

I have made a start, not quite finished yet but I think it looks far more in keeping! It will have the weathering and graffiti treatment in due course! It is based very, very loosely on the station at Blackheath, the line on which the layout is based.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-190117202219.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47587)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-190117202238.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47588)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-190117202258.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47589)

Hope to do a bit more tomorrow:)

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: weave on January 19, 2017, 10:03:40 pm
Hi Alex,

Station building is much, much better for me.

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 19, 2017, 10:12:14 pm
Hi Alex,

Station building is much, much better for me.

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Thanks, I am quite pleased as to how it came out:) It looks far more in keeping with the whole scene I think:)

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 20, 2017, 04:54:57 pm
Hi Alex,

Station building is much, much better for me.

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Fully agree, looking very good.  :beers:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: port perran on January 20, 2017, 08:03:26 pm
Ditto-looks excellent.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 20, 2017, 08:10:03 pm
Really excellent scenic modelling, Alex. The short platform could be used for unloading mail to a nearby Post Office Sorting Office. A suitable old Graham Farish BG or GUV can be picked up quite cheaply. That would justify keeping the trackwork there.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 20, 2017, 08:28:16 pm
Hi all,

Thanks for all the comments:) Also, how do I remove the poll as its a bit out of date now?

A little more work done today! I have started the retaining wall for the short siding in front of the fiddle yard. Its been scored and pre-shaded with weathering powders (cheap pastels!) ready to be painted tomorrow:)

I have also done the other side of the first bridge I did!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-200117202425.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47658)

I like this photo looking up at the rest of layout, it is beginning to feel busy and urban!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-200117202442.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47659)

I also printed off the track plan from Anyrail to see if it would work and it fits very neatly into the area:)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-200117202505.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47660)


Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Steamie+ on January 21, 2017, 08:48:47 am
Hi all,

Thanks for all the comments:) Also, how do I remove the poll as its a bit out of date now?

A little more work done today! I have started the retaining wall for the short siding in front of the fiddle yard. Its been scored and pre-shaded with weathering powders (cheap pastels!) ready to be painted tomorrow:)

I have also done the other side of the first bridge I did!

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-200117202425.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47658[/url])

I like this photo looking up at the rest of layout, it is beginning to feel busy and urban!
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-200117202442.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47659[/url])

I also printed off the track plan from Anyrail to see if it would work and it fits very neatly into the area:)
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-200117202505.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47660[/url])


Thanks,

Alex


Itís looking better and better everyday..              :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 22, 2017, 08:36:22 pm
Hi all,

Time for another update!

I have been quite busy recently but have managed to work on objects for the bridge by the ramp. This will be a Network Rail site office for the station works and operations on the lower sidings.

I have built all of the following from scratch using cereal packets, Fimo and mount board:)

This is the site overall: clearly lacking scenic work but it gives a good idea of what this bit of the layout will look like!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-220117203250.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47758)

The container is card with Fimo and a stamp I made for the corrugated effect! The skip is simply folded from thin card and filled with bits! The signs I printed off and weathered with my cheap pastels to blend them in:)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-220117203335.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47759)

And a painfully close up shot!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-220117203427.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47760)

The digger was a first attempt and may be changed but considering its origins of a cereal box and a few paperclips I am quite pleased, especially as its only 2.5cm long!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-220117203118.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47756)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-220117203143.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47757)

I have also started to add signs around the layout on buildings and walls. I shall get some photos in better light tomorrow but they really start to bring the layout to life!

Thanks and I look forward to you comments, good or bad!

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 22, 2017, 09:11:57 pm
That's very impressive work indeed. I would never have guessed that all that (mainly) came from a cereal packet!
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: weave on January 22, 2017, 09:33:20 pm
Hi Alex,

I've got to start eating more cereal (well cereal full stop). Fantastic work.

Great stuff, keep it up.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS. Are Srongbow cider boxes any good?  :)
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 23, 2017, 08:56:22 pm
Hello all,

Thanks for the comments:)

I have furthered my cereal-packet digger making skills today and started on a much more detailed but slightly bigger (still only 3-4cm long!) digger! Again just made out of my three favourite materials: Fimo, cereal card and paperclips. Though the photos don't really show it, the top section swivels freely from the tracked chassis, allowing it to suit whatever position it is put in on the layout!
Hope you like it!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-230117205349.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47790)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-230117205400.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47791)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-230117205456.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47792)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-230117205509.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47793)

I have yet to really tackle the arm of the digger and the first hydraulic may well be replaced, I'll see how it goes!

There will be more layout updates soon but work has somewhat stalled until I get some track and scenic items!

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: newportnobby on January 23, 2017, 08:58:25 pm
Remarkable! :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 23, 2017, 09:01:11 pm
Highly impressive.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: port perran on January 23, 2017, 09:01:30 pm
Smashing.
I admire your skill and ability with such modest materials.
Your young eyesight must be much better than mine of 62 year vintage !
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 23, 2017, 09:04:22 pm
Thank you for the lovely comments! I really enjoy the challenge of trying to make detailed models out of whatever I can get my hands on! Being a student means I have almost no budget so it forces me to make my own buildings, scenery and models!
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: lil chris on January 23, 2017, 09:28:38 pm
Very well done Sir, I could never attempt that with my eye site nowadays, and out of card too impressive.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 23, 2017, 09:33:39 pm
That is very impressive work indeed!

Tell me, would you be open to a commission in the future?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 23, 2017, 09:34:57 pm
That is very impressive work indeed!

Tell me, would you be open to a commission in the future?

Skyline2uk

Thanks, absolutely, I can always give things a go:) Anything in particular?

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 23, 2017, 09:43:11 pm
That is very impressive work indeed!

Tell me, would you be open to a commission in the future?

Skyline2uk

Thanks, absolutely, I can always give things a go:) Anything in particular?

Cheers,

Alex

Well I quite fancy a JCB like yours. I have some roadworks on my layout which would go quicker with mechanical help  ;)

Absolutely no rush, next injection of cash for railway budget is due late March  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 23, 2017, 09:48:56 pm
Hi,
That is very impressive work indeed!

Tell me, would you be open to a commission in the future?

Skyline2uk

Thanks, absolutely, I can always give things a go:) Anything in particular?

Cheers,

Alex

Well I quite fancy a JCB like yours. I have some roadworks on my layout which would go quicker with mechanical help  ;)

Absolutely no rush, next injection of cash for railway budget is due late March  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Sounds good to me, I'll begin research and see what I can do for you:) I'll do some mock ups and send some photos to you, see what you think:)

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 23, 2017, 10:01:08 pm
Very good of you Alex.

But do make sure that is third behind Uni work and your layout  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 25, 2017, 03:39:35 pm
Hello all,

I have been working on Skyline2uk's commission of a JCB Backhoe over the past few days and, apart from the bucket it is ready to post!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-250117153810.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47836)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-250117153823.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47837)

I am quite open to any other orders/requests, just let me know:)

Once I receive the track, the layout will hopefully begin to progress further!

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 25, 2017, 03:48:06 pm
Fantastic modelling. Truly amazing.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 25, 2017, 04:35:26 pm
Fantastic modelling. Truly amazing.

Totally agree, looking forward to seeing this in person!

Slyline2uk
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 25, 2017, 04:43:49 pm
Thanks guys, I really enjoyed building it! Any ideas of what I could build next? I am thinking a Network Rail machine for the works area or burnt out coach or something to sit in a corner of the layout!

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 25, 2017, 05:49:47 pm
Network Rail Machines are always popular.

I have just Googled "small network rail machines" and got images of many possibilities.

Skyline2uk

Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 25, 2017, 05:56:34 pm
Network Rail Machines are always popular.
I have just Googled "small network rail machines" and got images of many possibilities.
Skyline2uk


Thanks, I think I will choose between either a bulldozer for the platform rubble or a machine which I can mount on some wheels so it can be pushed along the sidings:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-250117175442.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47841)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-250117175456.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47842)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/5545-250117175534.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47843)

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 26, 2017, 04:28:02 pm
Great modelling Alex (hopefully I can say that on the forum)  :worried:

I will be needing some large excavation equipment for my quarry at some time in the future...
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 26, 2017, 04:34:54 pm
Great modelling Alex (hopefully I can say that on the forum)  :worried:

I will be needing some large excavation equipment for my quarry at some time in the future...

Haha thanks!

If you have anything in particular in mind already just let me know and I can do a little research:)

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 26, 2017, 06:53:08 pm
Hello all,

I have been looking at how to model the single siding on the left hand side of the board, the strip in front  of the fiddle yard.

I have been thinking I would quite like it to be a scrap yard for the disposal of locomotives, as I saw in some photos of Eastleigh Works. It would have a grassy bank behind it and a concrete covered track with debris and maybe a burnt out coach being scrapped with a crane/digger at work. A yard building would also be present with all of this giving the illusion that the yard was bigger than that on show.

I feel the siding needs to have (or at least to have once had) a purpose and thats why I am thinking scrap yard/network rail yard type of thing!

Any suggestions of either how  to improve my current ideas or a new suggestion entirely would be welcomed!

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 26, 2017, 07:50:39 pm
I like that idea, but my instinct is always constructive rather than de-structive (I know rolling stock often has to die, but it's always sad!).

How about a small wagon works / engineering firm? I wonder if modelling part-built / restored stock is a bigger challenge than broken-up stock?

There is also scope for making some jacks / lifting equipment?

Just a thought, your model after all.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 26, 2017, 07:55:26 pm
I like that idea, but my instinct is always constructive rather than de-structive (I know rolling stock often has to die, but it's always sad!).
How about a small wagon works / engineering firm? I wonder if modelling part-built / restored stock is a bigger challenge than broken-up stock?
There is also scope for making some jacks / lifting equipment?
Just a thought, your model after all.

Skyline2uk


I really like that idea, thank you! I will look into it, especially the lifting machinery, that could be an interesting feature!

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 26, 2017, 08:14:57 pm
Re lifting jacks; Farish sell some ready made, but I suspect you will want to do your own (and why not!).

Alas can't add pictures quickly from my phone, but a Google image search for "railway rolling stock lifting equipment" give the type of things....

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 26, 2017, 08:57:13 pm
Do you have room for a rail mounted crane? Might open up some opportunities for other buildings or facilities in the space?
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 26, 2017, 09:07:56 pm
Thanks for all the suggestions!

I think I may go for constructive rather than destructive, though haven't decided exactly what yet! I like the lifting jacks idea:)

Also, I have been thinking of a rail mounted crane and researching it so I may end up having one on the other sidings, quite rusty and left alone if it doesn't fit in the works siding!

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 27, 2017, 07:59:41 pm
If you'd like three grounded railway van bodies to use as stores (they could be cut down lengthwise and used low relief), I have an unwanted Peco blue "Rail Express Parcels", white "Insulfish", and red and grey "Railfreight" van body (no use for mounting on chassis as the below solebar detail is broken), just PM me and I'll post them off. (Two need roofs; easily made from card.) Suitably weathered they will look good.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 28, 2017, 11:08:02 am
Hi guys,

I have decided that the small siding will be a private industry, probably a small engineering firm. Maybe a restoration company or the like that has bought the space as it was cheap and has direct rail access. This will encompass a small workshop with lifting gear as well as a short stretch of track for storage, not connected to the main track. Components will then be transferred between these by use of a small crawler/wheeled crane. This will also be used to lift heavier parts from road transport to the storage area. Not finalised yet but that is what is in my head so far!

This is a (bad) artist's impression of the area. The area with the crane in it will be a bit longer to allow for movement:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-280117114634.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48036)

Maybe slightly random but, as I am modelling south east London in the modern day, it is common to see track sections painted white and I was wondering why this happens, is it to mark sections for replacement? I would be very interested in any explanation and to see if I could somehow incorporate it into the layout!

Finally, in one of the main sidings, I would like a rail crane. As per usual with me I would like to build it myself but I need a chassis to base it on. If anyone has some old bogies or a wagon chassis they are willing to sell, just let me know as eBay is proving somewhat fruitless in this regard!
Anyway, I am working on the crane for the engineering firm today and maybe the building tomorrow so I will upload some photos of my progress later!

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: weave on January 28, 2017, 12:27:39 pm
Hi Alex,

Was interested in your question about the white track. Found some answers, although there is some debate about it so don't have a definitive answer, on RailUKForum.

I don't think I am allowed to transfer the info here but there is talk of reflecting light at points to stop expansion, repairs as you said and other things.

Not much help but just googled 'why are railway tracks painted white'.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 28, 2017, 12:31:47 pm
Hi Alex,
Was interested in your question about the white track. Found some answers, although there is some debate about it so don't have a definitive answer, on RailUKForum.
I don't think I am allowed to transfer the info here but there is talk of reflecting light at points to stop expansion, repairs as you said and other things.
Not much help but just googled 'why are railway tracks painted white'.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers weave  :beers:

How very interesting, I would never have thought of reflecting heat but it would makes lots of sense! Thanks!

Thanks, the crane build has begun!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: 25901JFM on January 28, 2017, 10:48:14 pm
Rails are / were painted white to help deflect the heat in the summer months.  It is generally switch rails and a certain length either side of pointwork that is painted.  The idea is to try and help keep rail temperatures down during the warmer weather to try and reduce point failures and track circuit failures.  It was initially an experiment, I'm not sure what the results were and if it is still practice to slap the white paint around...  Other paint marks on rails can identify rail defects found by ultrasonic rail tests. Spray paint markings on sleepers are used to mark up sites ready for Tampers & Stoneblowers to do their thing or to mark up sleepers that need to be changed.

Hope this is of use / interest.

John
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 29, 2017, 01:56:13 pm
Hello all!

A few things to update you all on!

Firstly, thanks for all your comments and suggestions, they are really appreciated! Thanks also to 25901JFM for informing us on the white rail experiment, very interesting!
Rails are / were painted white to help deflect the heat in the summer months.  It is generally switch rails and a certain length either side of pointwork that is painted.  The idea is to try and help keep rail temperatures down during the warmer weather to try and reduce point failures and track circuit failures.  It was initially an experiment, I'm not sure what the results were and if it is still practice to slap the white paint around...  Other paint marks on rails can identify rail defects found by ultrasonic rail tests. Spray paint markings on sleepers are used to mark up sites ready for Tampers & Stoneblowers to do their thing or to mark up sleepers that need to be changed.
Hope this is of use / interest.
John


Secondly, I should have the track delivered by Tuesday or Wednesday so I can get it laid and weathered! This will hopefully really make a difference to the appearance of the layout as up until now there has been little in terms of proper railway things!

Finally, I have started work on the old crane for the engineering yard. I fear it may be a little too big but if it is then either I'll have it for Flordon or use it as a learning curve haha! Here is the work so far overall:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-290117135313.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48067)

I hear you ask, what are the little silver paperclips extruding from the side? It doesn't work does it?
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-290117135323.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48068)

Indeed it does!! :no: :claphappy: Albeit small and the mechanism rough, the arm should move up and down and the height of lifting will also be able to be adjusted! As you can see, it was a bit of an afterthought but luckily only the bottom had to be opened up! The mechanism looks quite untidy but it is all situated in a space about 15mm cubed!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-290117135334.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48069)

I look forward to any comments or suggestions:)

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: newportnobby on January 29, 2017, 02:48:05 pm
Excellent bit of scratchbuilding, sirrah :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 29, 2017, 08:02:43 pm
Hello all,

I know that this crane isn't really railway stuff but I am justifying it by the fact it will be on my layout haha! Soon I will have the track so can realign the thread with a more railway orientated theme!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-290117200043.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48085)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-290117200057.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48086)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-290117200108.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48087)

I can confirm that the main jib moves smoothly up and down but unfortunately due to the lack of weight available, the hook doesn't really move on its own! It will be static so it doesn't really matter that much, it still moves freely so I will be able to put it in position!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-290117195819.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48083)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-290117195942.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48084)

Not finished by a long way yet but it's looking the part I think:)

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 29, 2017, 08:16:31 pm
A really excellent model, Alex. An excellent visual lesson for anyone who thinks they have to buy a model, or kit of one, instead of scratchbuilding.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 30, 2017, 10:44:43 am
Excellent bit of scratchbuilding, sirrah :thumbsup:

Oh yes, fully agree with NN, excellent work Alex  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: port perran on January 30, 2017, 07:10:08 pm
That crane is amazing Alex.
Great modelling.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on January 30, 2017, 08:24:48 pm
Hello all!

Many thanks for all your kind comments, I really appreciate them!

Right, two things to update you all on tonight: track and the crane!

Firstly, the crane is now finished:) I will perhaps weather it a tad more but I am happy with it for now:)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-300117201522.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48103)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-300117201533.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48104)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-300117201546.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48105)

Secondly, I received some track in the post today from a very generous forum member and so begun playing around with it and getting a feel for how it looks! I have taken a siding out as I felt it too cramped: I want some space for network rail vehicles etc!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-300117201338.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48100)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-300117201351.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48101)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-300117201421.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48102)

My parents have also been kind enough to offer to send down some of my electrical tools (soldering iron, wires etc) and hand drill so I should be able to wire the track and prepare it for point motors down at uni rather than having to wait for Easter when I go home! This means I will be able to ballast etc. and not be held up by electrical things!

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: port perran on January 30, 2017, 08:30:30 pm
Looking good.
I do hope you are allocating at least some time to academic matters  ;) ;)
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: MinZaPint on February 01, 2017, 06:29:50 pm
Your scratch built models are amazing, excellent work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Skyline2uk on February 01, 2017, 07:16:47 pm
As the proud owner of some of your work Alex I can only add to what others have said.

Just caught up with your latest work and, judging by your rate of progress you will be giving messers Farish and Dapol a run for their money before the year is out!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on February 01, 2017, 09:13:44 pm
Hello all,

Having been at work all day, I couldn't get my modelling bits out but I decided to have a go at mocking up the backscene. I have made this from scratch by using internet sourced photos of buildings and sky and compositing them together. This involved a lots of 'background removal' to allow just the buildings to be manipulated! Unusual in my experience to get this kind of thing right first time but I really like how it has turned out and may well stick with it (apart form getting it printed onto one big sheet!). See what you think:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-010217211105.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48192)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-010217211114.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48193)

Please ignore the join lines.....it was only quickly printed onto A4 haha!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-010217211130.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48194)

I think it sets the scene of a grim autumn day which reflects the nature of the whole layout! Anyway, enough of my thoughts, what do you all think?

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Rebel81 on February 01, 2017, 09:22:39 pm
Hello all,

Having been at work all day, I couldn't get my modelling bits out but I decided to have a go at mocking up the backscene. I have made this from scratch by using internet sourced photos of buildings and sky and compositing them together. This involved a lots of 'background removal' to allow just the buildings to be manipulated! Unusual in my experience to get this kind of thing right first time but I really like how it has turned out and may well stick with it (apart form getting it printed onto one big sheet!). See what you think:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-010217211105.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48192[/url])

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-010217211114.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48193[/url])

Please ignore the join lines.....it was only quickly printed onto A4 haha!
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-010217211130.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48194[/url])

I think it sets the scene of a grim autumn day which reflects the nature of the whole layout! Anyway, enough of my thoughts, what do you all think?

Cheers,

Alex


Looking very good !
Maybe be worth printing out one or two of the same pictures and layering the photos/prints to help give the image depth,
take one of the building cut it out add card between the layers to give it depth
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Mito on February 01, 2017, 09:30:22 pm
Very nice and+1 to above.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on February 01, 2017, 09:32:58 pm
Thanks for the comments and advice guys! I had not thought of that! What thickness card would you use; cereal packet thin, mountboard or 5mm foamboard (they are my current options haha!)


A lecture has been cancelled tomorrow so I wonder what I'll be doing 8)

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Mito on February 01, 2017, 09:40:06 pm
Thanks for the comments and advice guys! I had not thought of that! What thickness card would you use; cereal packet thin, mountboard or 5mm foamboard (they are my current options haha!)


A lecture has been cancelled tomorrow so I wonder what I'll be doing 8)

Cheers,

Alex

Studying? :read: :D
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on February 01, 2017, 09:41:29 pm
Well of course that as well haha;)
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Rebel81 on February 01, 2017, 10:08:20 pm
Thanks for the comments and advice guys! I had not thought of that! What thickness card would you use; cereal packet thin, mountboard or 5mm foamboard (they are my current options haha!)


A lecture has been cancelled tomorrow so I wonder what I'll be doing 8)

Cheers,

Trail and error to be honest it's more a case of what looks right, I'd try different depths on different buildings ..... maybe just pick out some details on others and layer the image so things like window ledges door frames etc

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: newportnobby on February 02, 2017, 09:51:39 am
Smashing job of the sky/backscene, Alex. Perfick for the run down, derelict aspect :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Jerry Howlett on February 02, 2017, 10:22:59 am
Well that confirms it a depressing station, horrible buildings in the background so dark and a miserable backscene.



PERFECT MODELLING!!!

What next ?.  Do Preiser do n scale muggers?

Jerry
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on February 02, 2017, 10:27:38 am
Thank you all!

I am glad it looks grimy and depressing. Flordon is a breath of fresh air whilst this is meant to be the stagnated and run-down! Its interesting modelling a style of scene you've never done before! Being born in London and having family there means I know the SouthEastern line well and I want to capture the views from the window as you trundle along to Charing X or Waterloo East and hopefully its getting there!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on February 02, 2017, 04:27:09 pm
Hello all,

I need some help to decide which backscene I prefer best. There a lots of pictures (two of each of the three different backscenes) but I thought I may as well post them all at once! These are the main three themes so I can still edit each one a little. Anyway:

Option 1: Sunset
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-020217162343.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48201)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-020217162356.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48202)

Option 2: Blustery Sky
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-020217162419.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48203)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-020217162433.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48204)

Option 3: Grey Sky (I am to edit in some London skyline between the sky and foreground buildings but didn't have time today)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-020217162455.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48205)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-020217162508.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48206)

I will be ensuring that above the retaining wall of the station there is foliage and the buildings may well be made slightly 3D so these photos are just the first stage!

Your views and suggestions are very much welcome!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 02, 2017, 04:32:02 pm
A 'blustery day', (reminds me of Winnie-the-Pooh) gets my vote, Alex.

Definitely, go with a graduated 3D effect (thick to thin, with some overlapping buildings) for the background buildings.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: weave on February 02, 2017, 04:46:32 pm
Hi Alex,

Blustery sky for me too. Bit more life to it.

They all look great though.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Skyline2uk on February 02, 2017, 06:37:53 pm
Another vote for "blustery day"...though under AV my second choice is "sunset".

Slyline2uk
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on February 02, 2017, 06:42:37 pm
Another vote for "blustery day"...though under AV my second choice is "sunset".
Slyline2uk

Haha!

Thanks for your suggestions! It seems blustery sky has a clear majority and as we don't have an electoral college it wins fair and square!

Look out for a mock up of the rail crane later tonight!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: MinZaPint on February 03, 2017, 12:08:51 pm
For what it's worth "Blustery Sky" gets my vote as well, seems to fit the atmosphere you are creating  :thumbsup: Have to say your sunset looks very effective, would suit a different scene very well.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on February 03, 2017, 12:13:37 pm
The ayes to the right 4, the no's to the left 0, the ayes have it, the ayes have it!

Thanks for your suggestions all, its very much appreciated. I would also like to say my intention is to now CAD design the crane and have it 3D printed. It will be based around the recently acquired chassis and should be very cost effective as well as giving me a break from card modelling! Hopefully I will post some basic images of it tonight, I'll see how it goes!

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on February 03, 2017, 09:15:57 pm
Hi all,

The first update for the breakdown crane! Should I keep updating it on this thread or start a new one as its bit of a long build?

So, whilst loosely based on the Cowans Sheldon 75t crane, it is a freelance build because I cannot find drawings of this type of crane anywhere! Hopefully it will look viable on the layout nonetheless! Once designing is complete I will send it off to be 3D printed and then paint it upon delivery! It has been designed so that the bogies I have acquired will slot in (hopefully) to the printed chassis! Anyway here is the design so far, there are some details lacking but when it is only 70mm long I don't mind the odd thing missing (I can also add details retrospectively):   

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-030217210633.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48238)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-030217210841.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48239)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-030217210850.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48240)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5545-030217210910.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48241)

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: newportnobby on February 03, 2017, 09:45:37 pm
Hi all,

The first update for the breakdown crane! Should I keep updating it on this thread or start a new one as its bit of a long build?


Personally, Alex, I'd put this as a new topic under the section 'On My Workbench'
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on February 04, 2017, 01:20:50 pm
Hi,

I have transferred the build to: http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36335.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36335.0)

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: robert shrives on February 16, 2017, 08:01:13 pm
Hi alex,
Been off air for a bit so came looking for latest pics- is all well on the layout front.

I guess its well along but feeling starved of images ...

cheers
Robert
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: newportnobby on February 16, 2017, 08:42:44 pm
Hi alex,
Been off air for a bit so came looking for latest pics- is all well on the layout front.

I guess its well along but feeling starved of images ...

cheers
Robert


@robert shrives (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2605)
See the post above yours, Robert ;)
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on February 19, 2017, 08:37:05 pm
Hello all!

This may be a bit a disappointing update, sorry!

I have been very busy both with uni work and my 3D printing exploits (see my crane thread http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36335.msg427043#msg427043 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36335.msg427043#msg427043)) so I haven't done much at all on the layout! I also need two more points, and some time haha, before I can move onto the next stages!

Anyway, hopefully a more productive update soon!

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: Milton Rail on February 21, 2017, 08:18:29 pm
Can see why you have not had much time, brilliant job on the crane
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: mickster04 on February 21, 2017, 08:26:20 pm
I seem to have not posted previously about your cardboard work, I would love to see how you create these, planning and process would be awesome. Makes me think of the 'Queen of Lean' (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0LFKg9zCa5Z5XsC68p2BLw (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0LFKg9zCa5Z5XsC68p2BLw))  and her attempts to do as much with as little as possible, as a former student I can appreciate the need to not spend money and recycle :D Awesome work on those contruction items, and clearly you have an eye for this stuff as you 3d model shows!

A small tutorial might be good (in tutorial section perhaps?)

Keep on doing stunning work!

Mike.
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: AR on March 11, 2017, 03:49:49 pm
Hello all,

Another apology for not doing anything on this layout! Uni has got very busy recently but by the end of March this term's assessments will be over and I will be able to crack on with the track!

I have, in the little bits of spare time I get, been working on a body kit of the Radstock Sentinel shunter for my home layout Flordon. I was looking everywhere for this version and couldn't find one in N gauge so I dived in and decided to make my own! You can see it here in the 3D modelling section: http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36807.msg434369#msg434369. (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36807.msg434369#msg434369.) I also gauging interest to see if a small production run could be viable, so let me know if its of any interest:)

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: A Layout for University
Post by: weave on March 11, 2017, 05:46:18 pm
Hi Alex,

No apologies required. From previous posts I'm sure most on here are pleased that your studies are taking preference.

Looking forward to more at Easter time.

The shunter is not my country but sounds like a good idea. Very entrepreneurial.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers weave  :beers: