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Title: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on April 24, 2016, 11:54:57 pm
Fictional Sidings where my Partner currently lives, Reason behind the name :)

Finally after four years I've finally got an idea I'm happy with and started, I have started previously but lost interest straight away. This one I'm really happy with the layout. I don't mind advice and or criticism.

I bought the baseboard from Model Railway Solutions around a year ago. It's only 3x1ft but something I can store away easily and can completely hide which I can with this size. The baseboard went together extremely easily would buy another and recommend them.

I've decided on a totally fictional shunting yard so I can run basically anything I would like within reason. This is as far as I've got so far and I can only move around 3 wagon's using an 08? Shunter but can store upto 7 or 8 in the sidings so plenty 'playing' ability I think. Still trying different things out using buildings from my fathers layout he's building, Anyways onto the first photo of this layout.

Thanks for reading, Chris
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on April 25, 2016, 09:28:15 am
That looks fine, although anything pulling wagons into the 2 right hand sidings is going to be buffer locked unless you are using DCC control.
How do you intend to feed trains into the top right entry - separate board with fiddle yard, traverser, cassettes?
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 25, 2016, 11:03:32 am
To be honest, I thought I could use the single straight at the end will fit the engine and two wagon and insulting all the sidings would allow me to move two at a time from any siding into another if that makes any sense. The layout is only DC and I will be only running one train :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on April 25, 2016, 12:21:00 pm
OK - that'll be fine providing the loco is pushing the trucks into the sidings :thumbsup:
Don't understand the bit about insulting your sidings, though ???
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 25, 2016, 01:11:00 pm
I may have read it wrong but I'm guessing since I'm only running one loco I don't need to insulate anything as all track needs to be 'live' or if I wanted to run two loco's I could deactivate a siding to leave the unused loco in?

Many Thanks for you help :)
Title: Re: Cardiff Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on April 25, 2016, 04:28:09 pm
Chris - please see your layout with power feeds (3 x black triangles) and insulated rail joiners (2 x shown in red) which I would consider a minimum required. If you want some extra 'playthings' let me know and I'll see what I can do.

(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

Title: Re: Cardiff Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 25, 2016, 05:01:33 pm
Thank you so much, Reading your post seems you've done a diagram on exactly where I need to input the power feeds and insulated rail joiners. Unfortunatley I cannot view it I'm getting an error message 'Sorry you are not allowed to view this file' I've tried on my mobile phone to but same error.

Really appreciate you taking the time to assist me :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on April 25, 2016, 06:23:58 pm
There's something weird going on with the media system on the forum as, having been told there was an error 500, I then found the image had been loaded twice into my album ???
I deleted one of them and maybe that's the one you can't see.
Can you see this one OK?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_38724.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38724)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 25, 2016, 07:19:17 pm
I can see it now :)

I'll keep my progress updated, I really appreciate your assistance with my layout. Could I insulate each of the sidings individually so I could 'store' a loco in one of the sidings?  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on April 25, 2016, 08:06:30 pm
Switching the points will isolate the siding concerned. If you put insulated rail joiners after the access point you'd need to feed power to the siding.
Another way to isolate a loco (especially on DC when driving a loco to a dead end) is to leave a space big enough for a loco next to the buffers and cut one rail of the track behind the loco. This can be bridged by wire either side of the break meeting at a simple push to make/break switch which can be mounted on a control panel if you have one or into the side of the baseboard framing. The cut in the rail can be made anywhere along the length of the siding and you can have as many isolated sections as you want (as you would in an engine shed storing a few locos).
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 25, 2016, 08:15:17 pm
Ah thank makes perfect sense, This mean's I could store a couple of loco's on the layout and still run DC only allowing the loco to move when the break in the rail is filled. Easy when you know how.

I think two loco's would be more than enough for this layout to be honest just need now to sort a era. I especially like the Class 66 and 08 Shunters been looking at Hatton's which has the era guide which helps.

I was thinking I'll play around with the layout more before I decided to fix the track down but your help is invaluble. I owe you more than a few  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on April 25, 2016, 08:18:26 pm
Don't worry about it, Chris. We're all here to help each other with model railways and with life :)
It might be nice if your locos/rolling stock had the same livery - say EWS (I believe it's the most available livery although I know half of bugger all about this 'modern' stuff.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 25, 2016, 08:25:23 pm
I think you right with keeping the same livery. I would like to use and may add an extra siding for couple of derelict wagon's with graffiti on. The blank section will have fencing along with a road and shops up and houses etc along up a slight hill as if the streets looking down into the yard. Thinking also a tunnel from the right hand side so give the effect the loco's are coming from somewhere and gives me the opportunity to still add another board if I would like to go modular :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on April 25, 2016, 08:39:24 pm
Sounds very promising. It's good to start 'simple' and practice techniques and products in case you have the room/time/money to build 'The Biggun' :D
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 25, 2016, 08:47:17 pm
Exactly, I thought a 3x1ft board should be very achievable and something I can see the end in sight. Looking forward to ballasting and the wiring. But really looking forward to dirtying the track especially and the wagon's. Start small I can always add on later.

The layout is at my parent's as my father's building his so thought be a good layout for space wise to build along side his layout. Looking forward but probably only a weekend build but make sure I don't get bored or sick if doing to much during the week
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 25, 2016, 10:27:28 pm
Looking forward to seeing this one develop. There is a superb miniature layout of NCB sidings in South Wales on the forum (sorry, I forget the name) which may give you some scenic ideas.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 25, 2016, 10:52:32 pm
Thank you, Updates will not be that often but still when I can. I'll have a look for the layout you mention. It maybe in the box file section sure I've seen it too :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on April 26, 2016, 02:55:04 am
I think this is the one you mean although something appears to have gone wrong with Stu's Photobucket account :worried:
@mk1gtstu (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2084)

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.180 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.180)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 26, 2016, 08:40:14 am
I think this is the one you mean although something appears to have gone wrong with Stu's Photobucket account :worried:
@mk1gtstu ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2084[/url])

[url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.180[/url] ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.180[/url])


Yes, that's the one, thank you, Nobby. Stu has done a superb job. I had missed the new update with the NCB Class 04 (another excellent model).
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 26, 2016, 12:47:50 pm
That layout is stunning, If mine comes out half as good as this layout I'd be so happy. Got an amazing atmosphere to it. The photo's are simply stunning  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on May 22, 2016, 12:51:57 am
I knew it would be a while but finally another small update. Decided to get the ballasting done and after a lot of advice on the forum and my Dad, This is the result of my first ever attempt. Still tidying up to do on the point but so happy with the result ( Thank you for the advice ) worked a treat. I'll be removing some as go kind of carried away and ended up ballasting literally half the board but it is small.

Little teaser shot if you will and I know, I know more tending needed to make it look better :)

I'm just totally stuck with what to do on the layout changing my mind then back again. Need more inspiration as I have no idea what's needed for a colliery or Goods an Coal yard. Trying to find overview photo's to help out but struggling

Thank you for reading and viewing :)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u318/fallenprophet_2007/20160522_003248_zpsjagbcubd.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/fallenprophet_2007/media/20160522_003248_zpsjagbcubd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Bealman on May 22, 2016, 01:06:24 am
That is a very neat job you've done on the ballast.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on May 22, 2016, 01:36:08 am
Thank you  :beers: Took a while but it's only a 3x1 layout :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 22, 2016, 06:47:33 am
Looks highly realistic. Very well done.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on May 22, 2016, 09:23:18 am
That looks very good, and I like the weathered Warship, too :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on May 22, 2016, 11:56:58 am
Thank you for the comment, Still loads to do. The Warship is my Dad's just had to put something on the rails  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: scottishlocos on May 30, 2016, 05:59:43 pm
Hi

Just found this one like what you have done so far. For coal yard have a look at Gobowen coal yard it was last place to get household coal deliveries and lasted well into the EWS era.
Coal loafing/unloading can be as simple or complicated as you want it anything from a guy with a shovel to complicated tipplers which lifted the whole wagon to be emptied to massive overhead bunkers.

From what you have said I would go for a class 66 with MEA wagons loaded or unloaded by digger all are available in N and Oxford Diecast have a suitable tipper truck in the current range

Dave
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on May 30, 2016, 06:49:30 pm
Thank you so much for the replying and letting me know about this yard  :beers:

This is exactly what I have been looking for so I can change my era within reason if I would like too.

Many Thanks, Chris
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on May 30, 2016, 07:22:07 pm
I think I'm doing it the wrong way round but hey :)

This is how it sits at the moment. I really would like a goods & coal yard I would like line side good shed to fill up the Box vans but also a coal yard. I've looked at other layout's for inspiration on how they a yard is laid out. I've got ahead of myself with having the track down already but need help  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=40215)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on May 30, 2016, 08:08:48 pm
Not sure what you are asking for really but for what it's worth, the problem here is retrieving wagons from the sidings.
It seems that only a loco and two wagons (maybe 3) can be moved from the top sidings in any one movement. I think it might have been better to have the point nearest the loco and wagons on the other side of the point to its right.  You could then have had two sidings of reasonable length running above where the loco is (this would be your goods yard) and perhaps just a single shorter siding to the right (perhaps serving as a private yard - perhaps a coal merchant ?).
Hope that make some sense.
Does look good so far though. Keep the updates coming.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: NeMo on May 30, 2016, 08:37:04 pm
Not sure what you are asking for really but for what it's worth, the problem here is retrieving wagons from the sidings.
Agreed; I'm failing to see how this layout will operate.

One problem is the lack of a run-around loop. That's where the loco is able to pull the train into a siding, disconnect, run forwards a bit, then reverse back through a parallel siding and then back onto the mainline. Alternatively, it could back up and connect to the tail end of the train, and then pull the wagons back to the mainline as well. For this you need a run-around loop.

Unless a train propels wagons into these sidings, it's going to be 'trapped' at the end of one of the lines. That isn't without precedent, but it is relatively unusual. It requires either a second loco (perhaps a shunter) to trip the wagons to the main industry somewhere, or else for the loco to propel the wagons backwards down the line when the wagons have been unloaded. Exchange sidings where a shunter takes the train certainly do exist but usually where big, long trains justify the expense. Similarly, leaving the loco in a siding while the wagons are unloaded is a waste of motive power, and unlikely to be cost effective except in very specific situations.

The sort of sidings you've built make more sense for something like a locomotive fueling point or something along those lines.

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on May 30, 2016, 09:04:39 pm
I really appreciate your feedback  :beers:

I totally see where you both are coming from, I think I should have added a passing loop to move the train from one side of the wagons to the other. Definatley correct on the train being trapped. I think I'm going to use this end to end layout for now but will be adding other sections as I go

This is probably flawed thought on my part but thinking loco comes in with two or three wagons at a time from the right pulls into one of the two siding at the bottom then an 08 shunter could attach then move them to the top left siding ( loading good onto wagons). Once full then moved into the siding where the warship is in the photo which releases the warship from the bottom to connect onto the end of the wagons then away. Building this in sections :)

Many Thanks, Chris
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on June 12, 2016, 09:34:24 pm
Finally got round to building the warehouse. Loads of small bits especially the windows, Really enjoyed building it and finally got some height on the layout. Could have done better in a few area's but happy overall. Anyways on with the photo

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1000-120616213027.jpeg)

Many Thanks, Chris
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 12, 2016, 09:41:37 pm
Looks very good to me, Chris. Thanks for the photo.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on June 12, 2016, 09:42:48 pm
Nice looking buildings, Chris, but you might want to run something underneath the buildings which is the same thickness as your ballasting. This ensures the loading platform levels remain at a constant with the rail level. When seen from some angles, though, this is not an issue.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on June 12, 2016, 09:43:23 pm
Looks good to me.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on June 12, 2016, 09:54:37 pm
Thank you guy's really appreciate the kind comments. I'll definatley add something underneath the buildings as you suggested  :beers:

Seriously thank you :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on June 13, 2016, 12:38:57 am
Nothing set in place or in the correct place, Just playing around

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1000-130616003713.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 13, 2016, 07:31:29 am
Thanks for the very nice photo. Coming along very well.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on June 20, 2016, 08:34:25 pm
Nearly completed my second Metcalfe Kit and really enjoy building them. The brewery is a little big for my layout and will need tweaked for positioning but really happy coming together nicely. Think I need help on what to place over the point section on the scenery side but really happy so far

I've left off the facia board's until I know exactly where it's place to save on damaging it and I would like a full platform across the front of the buildings I need to build which in the gaps the wagon's can unload directly onto the platform if needed. Thats my excuse anyways just prefer a full length platform :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1000-200616203138.jpeg)

Overview

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1000-200616202710.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 21, 2016, 05:00:26 pm
Nice buildings Chris. I am interested in the brewery, can you tell me the plan size and the height please? The Metcalfe web site gives dimensions of the individual bits but not the assembled plan dimensions.

Did you find construction of the kits straightforward - any hints and tips to pass on?
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on June 23, 2016, 11:29:51 am
Hi Keith,

I've only just saw this post now but I'll post up the size tonight when I get home ( Finish work at 9pm )

The kits do go together really well but make sure you buy a set of coloring pens. When you fold the walls etc you get a white line down the edge and I 'colour' these in gives a much better overall end product.

Like I did just take your time and double check before gluing and you'll be fine  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on June 23, 2016, 12:47:26 pm
This is what happen's when your pen's run out but you keep building anyways need to attend to these edges at the weekend  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1000-230616124624.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on June 23, 2016, 10:43:52 pm
I have seemed to have lost my tape measure this is the best I could do apologies @keithbythe sea (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5078)  :beers:

Tallest Building
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1000-230616223834.jpeg)

Length Aprrox
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1000-230616224310.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on June 26, 2016, 10:36:51 pm
Since it was my day off today I decided to break out the cutting knife and board and start on a couple of kits I had ready to go.

Metcalfe Signal Box Kit & Bus Depot. The Signal Box I've done as per the instructions but I've made the depot with my twist on it as I want it for my layout. Anyways both kits came together really well and happy with the result. I've gone for the car park advice and going to add a garage for haulage lorry's and a 'busy' haulage centre car park effectively.

I wont be working on the layout for about a week now but enjoy today a lot  :beers:

Thanks for looking

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1000-260616222911-41455179.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1000-260616222849-41420967.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on June 27, 2016, 08:19:02 am
Looks like you made a great job of building those kits.
They look good.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on June 27, 2016, 11:27:09 am
Thank you Really Appreciate it, I enjoy just putting music on then just cut and glue away till I'm content lol  :beers:

Think it needs some weathering

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1000-260616222911-41455179.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on October 30, 2016, 05:22:04 pm
Well time for a reboot, I had ballasted way to much of the original board. I was happy with the results but the layout it's self just didn't work so decided to start again. I came across this layout on eBay and collected it today. I'm really happy with it and still a blank canvas sort of speak to start again. I'll be continuing the layout through the tunnel on the lid for double the space and perfect to transport. I would like to thank you Derek & his partner for being very welcoming and such lovely people ( Trying to convince my Mrs to get the same type of Pooch lol ) Updates will be following but so happy with the purchase

Many Thanks for reading Chris  :beers:

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u318/fallenprophet_2007/Layout_zpsuzuqd0yc.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/fallenprophet_2007/media/Layout_zpsuzuqd0yc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 30, 2016, 07:14:23 pm
Looks like an excellent addition, Chris. Looking forward to seeing you develop it.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on October 30, 2016, 07:23:00 pm
Thank you, Really looking forward to getting started, Now what to put where lol  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on October 30, 2016, 08:10:45 pm
Looks to be a good starting point.
Looking forward to seeing developments in due course.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on October 30, 2016, 09:16:54 pm
A great layout to build upon :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on October 31, 2016, 08:19:48 pm
I've been thinking all day about what could go where but I'm drawing a blank so far. I really like to do a dual purpose platform with section for a small amount of passengers and other for parcels & goods. I've been trying to factor in some coal staithes for the merchants to deliver.

Any ideas figuring out how this will work and where to place is harder than I thought  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on October 31, 2016, 08:27:36 pm
I think the short siding opposite the signal box would work for a coal merchant's yard with staithes.
What you effectively have is a platform with run round loop opposite. Typical, I think of a country terminus. The single facing platform would have been used for everything (passengers, parcels and light freight).
The siding (bottom left) will be needed to access the coal yard but could also house the premises of a local industry e.g. Small timber yard or builders merchant possibly.
Quite a big area to fill in scenically on the left.
Could be largely urban or possibly very rural
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on October 31, 2016, 08:44:14 pm
Thank you for your advice, I think you have me going on something now. I'm think coal staithes on the short siding opposite the signal box like you said. I'll purchase both the Metcalfe Wayside Station & Canopy for the platform. The siding bottom left a timber yard with small Metcalfe good's build I already have with piled up good ready for a crane to lift onto waiting wagons and Baux Van's only two inside getting filled up with goodies too?

Many, Many Thanks  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on October 31, 2016, 08:49:03 pm
If you really want a parcels function you could reduce the platform width by half for, say, a third of its length, put a RH point where the signal box is with a bit of rail running into the slimmer bit of platform like a bay :hmmm:
Might be too much hassle, though.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on October 31, 2016, 09:10:09 pm
Now there's an idea  :beers: , That would be a really good option, You've totally given me the idea of I have the lid to use also as another section on the other side of the tunnel. As a shunting storage yard for trains coming in and out of the seen side of the layout. I'll see how the track in stuck down might be a pain but I'll have a look tonight.

Thank you so much guy's for your advice, If we ever meet I think I owe you a  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 06, 2016, 11:30:56 am
Trying to think how to convert this layout into DCC. It has electrofrog points. Am I correct in thinking that each piece of track needs it's own live feed and when the track is after a point the positive and negative need to be change to the opposite side of the track?

Many Thanks Chris

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1000-061116112548.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: keithbythe sea on November 06, 2016, 03:39:51 pm
Try Brian Lambert's web site, he knows his DCC stuff and is easy to follow and understand:

http://www.brian-lambert.co.uk/DCC.html (http://www.brian-lambert.co.uk/DCC.html)

Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 06, 2016, 07:04:39 pm
Try Brian Lambert's web site, he knows his DCC stuff and is easy to follow and understand:

[url]http://www.brian-lambert.co.uk/DCC.html[/url] ([url]http://www.brian-lambert.co.uk/DCC.html[/url])


I've had a read & it's hard to put this in a picture but is this the idea of what I should be doing?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1000-061116190231.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 10, 2016, 09:14:31 am
Nearly finished another little project for the layout. I really wanted a canopy to keep incoming and outgoing goods dry so purchased the Canopy kit from Metcalfe. Came together really well although quite fiddly for my chunky fingers lol. Still trying to find a glue I like for attaching the glass to the roof sections.

Still got the Waystation station to complete to go along with it. Going to reuse the Goods shed from my previous layout. Coming together nicely. Really happy with the way it turned out.

Sorry for dark photo's. Still dark this morning lol

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1000-101116085253.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 12, 2016, 10:24:30 am
Unfortunately I think this is the last Metcalfe Kit I'll get to build for a while. I really enjoy just sitting building these kit and time just seems to fly by. I don't think this small layout needs anymore big buildings as there just isn't the space.

I just need to add the finishing touches to the station and apply the layout's name board on it, I'll be finish the corners of the station with timber strips to try give the canopy a more wooden construction feel to it. Also complete installing ridge tiles and chimneys then another little project is completed.

Next Step: Micro Timber Yard :)  :beers:

Thank you for viewing and reading & I'll take some photo's in the light soon just I only see night with work lol

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1000-121116101848.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 13, 2016, 11:51:31 am
As promised due to a late start today one in the daylight :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1000-131116114922.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1000-131116121909.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 23, 2016, 11:27:01 pm
Minimal Update, Not had much time to work on the layout but had these little fiddly Chimney's and ridge tiles fitted. I'm waiting for some spare time to start on the timber yard. Anyways little short an sweet one this time but the Stone Pub & Shop along with the Houses have also arrived plenty still to do in hand. Still not 100% on where to put this Timber Yard

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1000-231116232023.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on November 24, 2016, 09:26:02 am
They look good. All too often the poor chimney pots get overlooked.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 24, 2016, 10:28:06 am
Thank you for the comment :) Think I've finally grown up and finishing things off. I used to do the Tamiya 1/24 kits and miss out the engine as the bonnet hid them lol. Used to paint the windows black claimed they where tinted so I didnt have to do the interior too

Finally at 31 I have paitence  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on November 24, 2016, 10:45:01 am
Think I've finally grown up and finishing things off.

I'm 63 and still have the nickname 'Half a job Harry' so well done you ;D
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 24, 2016, 11:18:35 am
From the photo's you've posted up and I've seen I have to disagree. Stunning ;)  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on November 24, 2016, 03:58:09 pm
From the photo's you've posted up and I've seen I have to disagree. Stunning ;)  :beers:

Your comment is much appreciated but on my smaller 'Bletchford' layout two of the three boards were completed over a year ago and the third has hardly been touched since :-[
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 24, 2016, 06:58:59 pm
You'll get working on it again soon and looking forward to any updates. Mines only 34 inches by 14 but taking me an age lol. Feel free to upload some photo's onto this thread. You'll be building in no time  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 26, 2016, 09:38:31 am
Well started on the street section but like a total idiot forgot to fit the curtains above the Pub. Now do I cut out a section in the floor to try fit them or just leave it as it is? I've tried to detach the floor but it's going nowhere

It doesn't look right but seems I might destroy it trying the get the floor out  :worried:

Forgot to mention the green 'sill' looking above the Pub window is sagging abit and needs sorted out :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1000-261116093400.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on November 26, 2016, 12:57:03 pm
Now do I cut out a section in the floor to try fit them or just leave it as it is?

Sorry, but the lack of curtains upstairs is a bit glaring so I think you need to fit some. Presumably once the roof is fitted the ceiling won't be visible so is it possible to gain access through there?
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 26, 2016, 01:08:50 pm
Thank you honesty is the best policy :beers:

Think I'll setup the curtains on a one piece length of cardboard and cut two small holes in the floor to get it through and do the same for the other side.

More I look at it the more I need to sort it out. I think I'll try it tonight and get it over with. I only really need one of these so could make the other a Pub also as a replacement just seems a shame to waste this one.

I'll post up the failure photo tonight lol
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on November 26, 2016, 01:26:02 pm
The alternative is to' board up' the ground floor as if the pub has sadly closed (like all too many :'()
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 26, 2016, 01:28:43 pm
Now there's an idea !

Think I'll have to order another set and have ago at it there can't be too many pubs in the same street lol. I have a plan of attack for the curtains now  :beers:

It's so tempting to do it this time round :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on November 26, 2016, 02:07:50 pm
The alternative is to' board up' the ground floor as if the pub has sadly closed (like all too many :'()
No, no , no looks much too inviting to be closed down  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 26, 2016, 02:14:24 pm
Thank you, I'm going to have to do two Pub's now. Just made a very small purchase ordered two little tables for outside the pub for locals to down an Ale or two in sunny Llanrumney lol  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 27, 2016, 10:38:29 pm
I tried to cut into the floor but just couldn't get through without the walls bending so I couldn't remove it to fit the curtains which was a downer. I've got some extra roofing to finish off the underside edges of the roof. Anyways thank you for the advice on my layout I sincerely appreciate it.

It's not perfect by any means but I can't believe it's starting to come together :)  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1000-271116222832.jpeg)

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Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on November 28, 2016, 07:55:04 am
Looks really good. Coming together well.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on November 28, 2016, 09:39:18 am
Looks really good. Coming together well.

Wot he said :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 28, 2016, 11:44:46 am
Thank you guy's I'll get an overview of what I'm planning for the lid section that will double the length of the layout while still trying to keep it very portable. Cornershop & two houses next. Your kind words keep me going with a smile

Thank you again  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: keithbythe sea on November 28, 2016, 04:28:56 pm
Looks really good. Coming together well.

Wot he said :thumbsup:

And wot they both said again  :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 28, 2016, 06:00:29 pm
Thank you, Starting the Cornershop soon can't wait love building the Metcalfe Kits :)  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on November 28, 2016, 06:05:17 pm
Thank you, Starting the Cornershop soon can't wait love building the Metcalfe Kits :)  :beers:
Don't forget the curtains !  ;)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on November 28, 2016, 06:16:45 pm
lol Promise I won't. Think I'll get them done first  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: MrDobilina on December 06, 2016, 10:36:45 am
Looks great so far! Love the buildings.

Thought I'd pop by after your comments on my thread - and I noticed 90% of the avatars in this thread were just black locos pointing left hehehe
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on December 06, 2016, 10:58:52 am
 :thankyousign:

I think I'm mostly talking to myself but it get's it off my chest I guess lol. I'm waiting on a set of stone houses to arrive to fit in between the Pub and the Corner Shop (Still in Construction). Pair of outside seating benches for outside the pub and then moving on to doing the track layout for the lid before progressing with the scenery any further.

Appreciate the reply  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on December 10, 2016, 12:20:02 am
Very small arrival for the layout today, Makes a big difference to the Pub scene. Still got a chalk boards adverting specials and the light above the entrance. I could add a couple of planters outside but think that may be a bit much. Coming together nicely

Apologies for the over exposed photo  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/1000-101216000242.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Bealman on December 10, 2016, 12:31:56 am
Sets the pub off nicely.  :thumbsup:

The colours of the pub sign remind me of a brew I used to drink in my other life - Vaux.  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on December 10, 2016, 12:43:00 am
For the sign outside I'll make a Vaux Brew sign to invite potential customers  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: MrDobilina on December 14, 2016, 11:17:02 am
Looks good! A little weathering and you're well away!
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on December 14, 2016, 12:13:21 pm
Looks really good.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on December 14, 2016, 12:27:48 pm
Thank you for the kind comments  :beers:

I should have an update Monday or Tuesday, Couple days alone next week so plan on getting the shop and two terraced houses completed along with starting the timber yard :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on December 27, 2016, 09:26:17 pm
Firstly wishing everyone had a lovely Christmas  :beers:

Apologies there has been no work been done since my last post due to any workspace being taken over with decorations lol. Ended up taking the layout to the parents over the Christmas period and still nothing done oops

Anyways I asked for the Network Southeast Coaches for Christmas and was overwhelmed at the gift's I received. The layout needs the second part built as either more viewable layout or fiddle yard to use them. Looks quite funny how small it is  :beers: Second Photo is my current stock think I need more coaches to vary the rolling stock I can use

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/1000-271216212425.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/1000-271216212450.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on December 27, 2016, 10:03:18 pm
Silly boy. You should have used the excuse of Notwork Fail having engineering works which, of course, will overrun ;)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on December 27, 2016, 10:09:50 pm
Damn I better edit the post lol
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 28, 2016, 09:28:58 am
Thanks for the update. That's a very nice selection of rolling stock. With a BR Lined Green 5MT 4-6-0 and a few BR WR Chocolate & Cream coaches a special passenger train to North (Cant Cove & Penmayne) and West Cornwall (Trepol Bay and Port Perran) would be possible in the New Year. 8-)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on December 28, 2016, 11:10:56 am
Keep your updates coming. Like a Ngauge story really enjoyable. Ah the January sales :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on December 31, 2016, 04:32:36 pm
I've come to a sticking point with the last bit of space available. I was going to do a timber yard but not quite feeling that's quite right for the layout I think I need help with ideas.

I'm thinking possibly a Canal ( Not sure exactly how to execute this ) but possibly entering from a tunnel with stock to load onto Van's for further travel. Not sure what when or how but any other idea's would be much appreciated  :beers:

Forgot to mention it's the free space on the left hand side where the good's shed currently sit's. I feel it's to many buildings for a small layout. Also possibly to close to the station? I have the Pub corner shop and two terraced houses but they won't fit there way to small so going to use the lid to sit beside as more layout space

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1000-121116101848.jpeg)

Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 01, 2017, 11:01:39 am
Good morning and Happy 2017! How about a narrow gauge line with a transhipment platform instead of a canal? (It could still appear through a tunnel entrance.) The loads could be slate or timber for use as pit props, for example. Or even general goods like the Welshpool and Llanfair N.G. railway.

How about a licenced refreshment room on the station instead of a pub? (They were not unusual.)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on January 01, 2017, 12:54:41 pm
I like canals so Id go with that.
Ive got one on Trepol Bay and can post a picture or two later if that helps?
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 01, 2017, 05:35:15 pm
I'd vote for the canal too. I think that it would fit well and you can always do with water on a layout. (Nice challenge for modelling  :))
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 01, 2017, 10:50:10 pm
Happy New Year to you all  :beers:

I think a Canal & Narrow Gauge line would be awesome. I need to have a long think about it as I don't want to cram to much into such a small layout. I have also been thinking maybe a little site office with sleepers, Rails Network Rail van etc with a wire fence around. I'm not great at imagining how things will turn out but thank you for the advice and suggestions.

I'll check out Trepol Bay  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 02, 2017, 02:08:52 pm
The problem with a canal in the BR era would that it would be very unlikely to be carrying any goods traffic whilst a NG line might.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: jrb on January 02, 2017, 10:47:12 pm
The problem with a canal in the BR era would that it would be very unlikely to be carrying any goods traffic whilst a NG line might.

Quite a few canals in the UK were still carrying goods into the 1960's, and even a few into the early 70's.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 03, 2017, 02:44:00 pm
I'm still not 100% what to do, I'm not well at the moment I'm all over the place. I think just a second platform for further parcel's a delivery's and keep the canal for the still unbuilt side of the layout. Think I'll do both  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 03, 2017, 02:46:51 pm
A second, shorter platform (opposite the main passenger one) for vans, including parcels, was a feature of quite a few GWR termini.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 03, 2017, 02:53:51 pm
I think I'll do the second platform and use the canal on the scenic side of the layout  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on January 03, 2017, 04:18:23 pm
Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 03, 2017, 05:35:27 pm
A little mock up of the layout at the moment, Going with a further parcel platform small.

Big ask here I have a further 31 inches by 14 the lid of the layout, Would you mind designing up some idea's. Only thing is I need a street incorporated as I've build the Pub and Corner shop and two houses in the middle.

Just wondering if you had any idea's, Has to be from the right of the layout as this is where the bridge is for entering

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/1000-030117172935.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 03, 2017, 08:25:07 pm
This is what I have come up with thinking a small street above the tunnel at the top right which I can also use as a fiddle yard to change by hand rolling stock and locomotives when in use.

@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) I used your beginners guide to keep sidings straight which I think I've managed  :beers:

Any feedback good or bad let me know :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/1000-030117202046.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on January 03, 2017, 08:36:08 pm
Here are a couple of photos of my canal and narrow gauge line on Trepol Bay. The narrow gauge line is Z scale but is non operational (it represents a long disused track).
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/d43_zpspkcasvd1.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/d43_zpspkcasvd1.jpg.html)

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/d44_zpsqauojicd.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/d44_zpsqauojicd.jpg.html)
It may help you to decide on landscaping your layout. The narrow gauge line disappears into the tunnel (seen - just - in the distance on the far right). The canal will also disappear into a tunnel but I've yet to complete the backboard at the far end.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on January 03, 2017, 08:39:36 pm
I'd like to help but I'm unclear as to how the diagrams in your last two posts fit together. Maybe I'm missing something ?
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 03, 2017, 08:47:06 pm
I do thing's in weird ways lol I'll amend it and post again :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 03, 2017, 08:56:59 pm
The split in track is to separate what I already have, The left hand side and the new right had side which will be built in the lid  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/1000-030117205143.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 03, 2017, 09:38:16 pm
If it helps with the planning a canal lock can be a minimum of 7 feet wide. That's only 14mm. So you could make your canal "branch" 10 feet wide. There will be no room for boats to turn, but the turning bay could be located outside of your layout, beyond the tunnel!
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 03, 2017, 09:42:14 pm
I think you've cracked it in my head now :)

A canal at the bottom just passing through maybe a canal side cafe?  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 03, 2017, 09:50:27 pm
What about a pub next to the canal? Very common to have this. Have a look at Stoke Bruerne (not 100% sure on the spelling) on the Grand Union canal as an example.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 03, 2017, 09:53:32 pm
That will work perfectly for me that's awesome thank you so much for replying :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Mr PJ on January 03, 2017, 10:49:25 pm
Hi,

Just a thought in the design of your extension - you could use a cassette or sector plate on the right hand side to connect to the two tracks that come from the station. A little bit of re-arranging of the sidings could give you a longer siding - possibly two sidings if there's room - at the front of the layout to the right. A scenic break would hide the fiddle yard sidings.

It would give you a good panorama a the front of the layout, and mean you have a separate goods yard away from the station.
Cheers
Paul
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 03, 2017, 11:16:25 pm
I never thought of using a cassette. I'm going to use this on the right hand side under the tunnel. I could easily and easier swap rolling stock and locomotives  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 04, 2017, 08:02:52 am
There is a lot of good advice about cassettes (from U-shaped plastic PC cable troughs) on the forum and, eventually, I will have to make some for Cant Cove.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on January 04, 2017, 09:08:59 am
I like the pub going next to the canal. Maybe the Lock Keeper's Arms?
And how about said lock keeper's cottage?
If material is going to transfer from canal to railway and vice versa you may think about a small storage/transfer warehouse?
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 04, 2017, 09:35:12 am
Now that sounds a good idea with the warehouse to separate the two methods of freight, Just need to figure out how to execute this but I'm getting a better idea the more suggestions  :beers:

Currently, Use the single tunnel at the top so I can have my little street scene overlooking both sections. Remove one of the sidings from my previous post's for the Canal & Warehouse which will be small as only a volunteer run Canal Warehouse ( My reason for being around in to the 80's aka Rule 1 )

Seems it's coming together, I have my work table back so building will commence on the street tonight :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on January 04, 2017, 10:29:17 am
I'd suggest a warehouse with sliding doors either side to allow freight in/out on both sides. Perhaps also with a small platform on the railway side?
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 04, 2017, 10:55:17 am
That's my plan sorted thank you :beers:

Think this will look awesome and add something else to the overall look of the layout. Time to get cracking. Looking for a suitable warehouse now. Preferably Metcalfe to keep the building's in a similar style the the rest of the layout :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 11, 2017, 11:10:37 pm
Finally had some space to start the final two houses for my end of street part of the layout. I was doing these at 1am the houses didn't get curtains totally gutted I forgot these yet again, I had the all glued to a little piece of carboard ready to go on  :sorrysign:

Chimney pots are ready to go on but to tired to focus this evening to continue. The picnic tables have arrived and ready to go outside the pub. I'm going to add a few 'street' style items like a bicycles, Guttering & people and lighting etc to give it a bit of character  :beers:

Here's the photo. Can't wait for the new track to arrive so I can plan better on the lid.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/1000-110117230059.jpeg)

Also a new addition to the fleet a Class 57 57011 DRS Livery. Listed as spares or repair but I think a good clean may get it working so I guess I have to check when it arrives :laugh:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/1000-110117231323.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 12, 2017, 08:26:57 am
The pub looks excellent. You're making very good progress. I hope you can get the 57/0 working.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 12, 2017, 12:29:35 pm
Thank you, I'll post up photo's of the gearing I have a feeling its just not been cleaned or maintained properly but we'll see. Appreciate the kind comments  :beers:

Think I'll add a few more details like a chalk board outside showing available ales and a swinging sign hanging off the wall lol
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on January 12, 2017, 01:55:12 pm
A very neat and tidy job there with the houses. Looking good.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on January 12, 2017, 02:19:39 pm

Think I'll add a few more details like a chalk board outside showing available ales and a swinging sign hanging off the wall lol

Wot? "Swingers welcome" :-X
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 12, 2017, 03:07:37 pm
@port perran (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230) Thank you for the kind comments, I was going to have a shop at the other end but it fell off the table and I stood on it so the shops gone lol

@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) Not in my establishment, Family friendly The Railway Inn is lol
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on January 12, 2017, 04:12:21 pm
Sad news about the shop. Was it a shoe shop? :laugh:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 12, 2017, 04:19:27 pm
Sad news about the shop. Was it a shoe shop? :laugh:

Ended up that way lol  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on January 12, 2017, 06:48:11 pm
Sad news about the shop. Was it a shoe shop? :laugh:
Ended up that way lol  :beers:
Are you feeling a bit "down at heel" about it  :D
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Yet_Another on January 12, 2017, 06:59:54 pm
Sad news about the shop. Was it a shoe shop? :laugh:

Ended up that way lol  :beers:
Converted to flats  :D
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on January 12, 2017, 09:33:52 pm
Sad news about the shop. Was it a shoe shop? :laugh:

Ended up that way lol  :beers:
Converted to flats  :D

 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 12, 2017, 10:30:26 pm
I've had a quick look at the Class 57 and think I might of found the problem. The copper or brass conductors that touch the wheels on the inside seem to have been pushed onto the other side maybe causing the poor running. I'll take it apart soon to investigate further
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 13, 2017, 12:04:04 am
DRS 57011 arrives at Llanrumney Sidings limping into the station. 57011 is suffering power failure possibly due to poor maintenance from her previous owner. Llanrumney is currently being brought back to life after a few years of only minimal traffic. Station staff and with some small investment from an anonymous investor to bring back life to the area. Ryhmney Coal Merchants have also start operations from the sidings and offer a small but reliable coal dispatch.

It's a start to bring back a thriving rail traffic back  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/1000-120117235549.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 13, 2017, 07:52:35 am
Thanks for the update. Looking very good. You've reminded me that I have still to paint my rails.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on January 13, 2017, 10:02:16 am
Thanks for the update. Looking very good. You've reminded me that I have still to paint my rails.


@Chris in Prague (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895)
Be fair, Chris, you have been busy doing a Lee Marvin i.e. Paint your Wagon ;D
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 13, 2017, 11:50:03 am
Thanks for the update. Looking very good. You've reminded me that I have still to paint my rails.


@Chris in Prague ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895[/url])
Be fair, Chris, you have been busy doing a Lee Marvin i.e. Paint your Wagon ;D


8-) Very true and, today, I'm going to be painting their buffers as soon as I can get away from my work emails!

I did manage to take some photos. of a "Hymek" hauled train though, to post, later.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 13, 2017, 12:21:03 pm
Nothing better than reading someone else's thread and thinking yet forgot about that then this and that lol. List always seems to get bigger  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 15, 2017, 06:12:24 pm
Corner and tunnel almost finished, tunnel will be one sided to enable a fiddle yard for rolling stock changes etc. By bringing the urban to the industrial I hope to give Llanrumney sidings an edge of town feeling.   

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/1000-150117172854.jpeg)

The drop in demand for coal hit Llanrumney hard, with the days of the coal driven industrial revolution long behind it the biggest sector of employment for this small town has been struggling for many years. In recent years however the town has had reason to be optimistic, investment in the towns railway sidings has had a slow but steady knock on effect felt in all areas of the town. One of the local business' to capitalise on this increase in industry is the Railway Inn.

Empty for many years and viewed by the local population as the most obvious sign of the towns economic dependence upon the sidings the Railway Inn is now once again open for business. Bought, owned and operated by Mr Caerwyn Garrett the pub has become the centre of the towns revival, sidings workers stop by on the way home for a well earned pint, the local people spend there Friday nights in the warm glow of friends and neighbours and most important of all to Mr Garrett the activity on the sidings makes the Railway Inn a great place for the rail enthusiast to indulge in their hobby from a warm seat and with a drink in hand all the comings and goings can been easily viewed  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on January 15, 2017, 07:09:50 pm
Looks very good indeed.
Caerwyn seems to have revitalised the pub really well. I trust it will go from strength to strength  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on January 15, 2017, 07:25:28 pm
Would it be safe to assume the pub has no cellar? :uneasy: :worried:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 15, 2017, 07:34:48 pm
I do enjoy a good back story.  I guess there would be room for a very shallow cellar finishing just above the arch of the tunnel roof? Or does the landlord just have the casks on a rack on the other side of the counter or even under the counter?
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on January 15, 2017, 08:56:26 pm
Would it be safe to assume the pub has no cellar? :uneasy: :worried:
No need, at night (under cover of darkness), one of the locals who just happens to be a steam driver reverses a pannier (with a wagon attached containing casks of prime Welsh Ales) into the tunnel. The landlord lowers a pipe attached to one of his pumps and Bob's your Uncle. :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 15, 2017, 08:57:02 pm
Unfortunately due to the Railway Inn's location a cellar does not exist but the stock is located in an out building instead. The pipework connecting the barrels to the counter pump had to be replaced by the current proprietor. Also all other stock is in the same outbuilding which the previous owner closed up due to the effort need at his old age  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 15, 2017, 08:59:08 pm
Would it be safe to assume the pub has no cellar? :uneasy: :worried:
No need, at night (under cover of darkness), one of the locals who just happens to be a steam driver reverses a pannier (with a wagon attached containing casks of prime Welsh Ales) into the tunnel. The landlord lowers a pipe attached to one of his pumps and Bob's your Uncle. :beers:

Might have to end up this way if business drop's again and this plan has been stored in his note book ;)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 16, 2017, 11:00:46 am
Would it be safe to assume the pub has no cellar? :uneasy: :worried:
No need, at night (under cover of darkness), one of the locals who just happens to be a steam driver reverses a pannier (with a wagon attached containing casks of prime Welsh Ales) into the tunnel. The landlord lowers a pipe attached to one of his pumps and Bob's your Uncle. :beers:

Very resourceful  :beers: Who exactly is Robert?  :confused1:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 16, 2017, 11:55:39 am
I'm guessing someone's Uncle but who? No idea lol  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: MrDobilina on January 16, 2017, 12:18:29 pm
I'm guessing someone's Uncle but who? No idea lol  :beers:

From what I have heard and read - Robert Cecil.

http://www.word-detective.com/2008/12/bobs-your-uncle/ (http://www.word-detective.com/2008/12/bobs-your-uncle/)

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The standard story of ďBobís your uncle,Ē as I explained it a few years ago, traces the phrase back to1887, when British Prime Minister Robert Cecil appointed Arthur Balfour to the prestigious post of Chief Secretary for Ireland. The British public, however, was well aware that Robert Cecil just happened to be Arthur Balfourís uncle. In the resulting furore over an apparent act of blatant nepotism, ďBobís your uncleĒ became a popular sarcastic comment applied to any situation where the outcome was preordained by favouritism.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on January 16, 2017, 12:20:18 pm
I'm guessing someone's Uncle but who? No idea lol  :beers:

In 1887, British Prime Minister Robert Gascoyne-Cecil appointed his nephew Arthur James Balfour as Minister for Ireland. The phrase 'Bob's your uncle' was coined when Arthur referred to the Prime Minister as 'Uncle Bob'. Apparently, it's very simple to become a minister when Bob's your uncle!
According to Uncle Google!
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: MrDobilina on January 16, 2017, 12:26:25 pm
I'm guessing someone's Uncle but who? No idea lol  :beers:

In 1887, British Prime Minister Robert Gascoyne-Cecil appointed his nephew Arthur James Balfour as Minister for Ireland. The phrase 'Bob's your uncle' was coined when Arthur referred to the Prime Minister as 'Uncle Bob'. Apparently, it's very simple to become a minister when Bob's your uncle!
According to Uncle Google!

Read one post above ;) hehehe  :smiley-laughing:  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 16, 2017, 01:37:16 pm
Are we now saying that the Prime Minster deliver's alcohol to Llanrumney's Pub via a Pannier Tank lol :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: weave on January 16, 2017, 01:44:29 pm
Hi,

Love the tunnel (and the buildings). Great work. Looking forward to more.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS. Keep that out building barrel storage cool. I worked in a pub with one where it was not properly done and the Summer caused havoc with the beer! Just thinking of the locals  :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 16, 2017, 02:35:35 pm
Thank you for the kind comment, Awaiting track to arrive before I can continue so I can place the buildings in the correct place. I will Caerwyn has a 'not chilled no serve' ingrained in his business ;)

 :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on January 16, 2017, 03:41:27 pm
I will Caerwyn has a 'not chilled no serve' ingrained in his business ;)

 :beers:

Real ale is not served chilled so, sorry, I won't be frequenting the premises :no:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: MinZaPint on January 16, 2017, 05:15:40 pm
I will Caerwyn has a 'not chilled no serve' ingrained in his business ;)

 :beers:

Real ale is not served chilled so, sorry, I won't be frequenting the premises :no:

Real ale should always be cool 11-13c so that you can appreciate the flavours, that's why lager is always chilled!  ;D  ;D

like the buildings and the layouts coming on nicely  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on January 16, 2017, 07:46:06 pm
Someones getting a slap on the hand lol :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on February 09, 2017, 09:41:41 pm
Trying to keep the enthusiasm going as it has wavered a little. The local skip company has decided to start a vehicle renewal programme. The first one's arrived and will look forward to more renewal's in the future  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/1000-090217213121.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on February 09, 2017, 09:57:59 pm
Dont let the enthusiasm waver as its looking very good indeed.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on February 09, 2017, 10:03:43 pm
Thank you :beers:

I've stayed offline for a couple of weeks just to try let the enthusiasm build which it is but I'll be very sporadic for the moment. Think I Metcalfe built myself silly lol
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 09, 2017, 10:11:44 pm
I agree with Martin. You've already achieved a lot and should continue to develop what is already looking a very attractive little layout. Then there are all the little details to add to give it character and sense of place and time.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on February 09, 2017, 10:57:44 pm
Thank you for the kind comments, I've got a couple of days off coming up think I'll see what I can do  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on March 07, 2017, 03:01:23 pm
Well after a little time out I've rekindled the enjoyment again for the layout. Maybe trying to do so much in a small amount of time but I'm back into it.

Got a couple little purchases recently. I lovely little Peco Model Rail Scotland Tunnock's Tea Cake Wagon and purchased a prebuilt building for the layout which I kind of kept bidding for lol

Anyways reading post's on here got me in the spirit again, Many Thanks  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on March 07, 2017, 03:08:55 pm
lovely little Peco Model Rail Scotland Tunnock's Tea Cake Wagon


I had to get me one of those as well as I used to sell the printed foil to Tunnocks over a few years (Tea Cakes and Caramel Wafers) :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/25/main_24657.JPG)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/25/main_24658.JPG)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on March 07, 2017, 03:13:28 pm
That's the one, I thought you uploaded a photo for me at first lol

Picked it up for £18 which I thought wasn't to bad but mainly got one as my sadly passed Nana loved them so I would have paid much more. Like to think she's now part of my layout :)

Kind of bought this also oops

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112316940655?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112316940655?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on March 07, 2017, 03:40:18 pm
I dare say I've put a pound or two (!) on with my Tunnocks Teacake habit but now Tesco have increased the price by 23.5% overnight it seems I have more restraint ;D
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on March 07, 2017, 03:43:40 pm
Don't end up on Slimming World like me lol right nightmare but give it it's dues it does work. Lost 5 stone last time eek. I carry my weight well supposedly lol.

Think if I spot any Tunnocks Teacake deal's I'll be sure to pass them on lol
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on March 07, 2017, 05:22:45 pm
Ive not seen that van before.
And.....glad your enthusiasm is rekindled.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on March 07, 2017, 05:46:47 pm
Thanks was the post you put up of your layout and the friendly and kind members on here like @newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) got me back into it :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on March 07, 2017, 09:09:00 pm
Good of you to say so and I'm glad whatever I did helped get your mojo back :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on March 07, 2017, 09:37:51 pm
Good of you to say so and I'm glad whatever I did helped get your mojo back :thumbsup:

Support  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on March 07, 2017, 09:43:55 pm
Good of you to say so and I'm glad whatever I did helped get your mojo back :thumbsup:

Support  :beers:

I wear one at all times :-[ ;)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Bealman on March 07, 2017, 09:44:36 pm
What a great little wagon!  :beers:

Glad you've got your enthusiasm back.  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on March 07, 2017, 09:48:37 pm
What a great little wagon!  :beers:

Glad you've got your enthusiasm back.  :beers:

Thank you, Think just trying to rush things and it not coming together quickly enough but I'm over it and back to a little bit of planning.

The watching video's online and researching I still did a small bit of also reading the 'OIL ON THE RAILS' book I was recommended but just the getup and go to work on it went but it's back. Funny what 31x14 inches layout can do lol. Can't imagine the size of the ones you guy's are doing  :beers:

I love it but do I keep it boxed or run it Hmm tonight's decision lol
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 07, 2017, 10:13:40 pm
Ive not seen that van before.
And.....glad your enthusiasm is rekindled.

Ditto; both points. I'd never heard of Model Rail Scotland, before, and am not even sure I know what teacakes are: scones? I really like this little layout and really want to see how it develops. So, please, do continue working on it and posting.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: themadhippy on March 07, 2017, 10:23:30 pm
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am not even sure I know what teacakes are: scones?
there a very moreish,  creamy marshmallow on a biscuit base covered in chocolate,the newer dark chocolate are even more moreish.
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but now Tesco have increased the price by 23.5% overnight it seems I have more restraint
farmfoods often has  em cheap.infact most of there biscuit/cake selection is cheaper than the other supermarkets
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 07, 2017, 10:26:31 pm
Thank you for the quick response. With my ever-expanding waistline, I'm glad they are not on sale, here!
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on March 08, 2017, 08:24:35 pm
I'll keep going really got into it again, Appreciate the kind comments. Think I'll rename this the Teacake Bargain Hunters lol  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on March 08, 2017, 08:43:31 pm
I'll keep going really got into it again, Appreciate the kind comments. Think I'll rename this the Teacake Bargain Hunters lol  :beers:
Glad to hear that you've gotten into it again.
I think we all have phases when we lose a little enthusiasm for a while.
Usually ends with renewed impetus.
By the way, I too have a weakness for Tunnocks Teacakes. They go well with a morningcoffee.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 09, 2017, 05:45:47 pm
Good of you to say so and I'm glad whatever I did helped get your mojo back :thumbsup:

Support  :beers:

I wear one at all times :-[ ;)

Oh I've missed this over the past couple of weeks.  :wave:

Good to see that your mojo has returned.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 15, 2017, 12:04:29 pm
Really got back into the railway and starting again on the scenery. Made some process and there is still another blank board to attach from the right hand side tunnel to continue the layout in due course. This is definitely the final major change up of Llanrumney Sidings and loving this one. Couple of teaser shots of the alterations made. Poser shots if you will.

I can't thank you all enough after I nearly packed it in a few short weeks ago. Oh yes I need more NSE Coaches  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/50/1000-150417115845.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/50/1000-150417115905.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 15, 2017, 12:32:02 pm
Very good to see progress. As the layout now seems to be in NSE territory, Mr. Llanrumney must have been an expatriate Welshman who gave his name to the sidings serving his coal yard? Or are the NSE coaches part of a weekend enthusiasts' special visiting South Wales minor lines? 8-)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 15, 2017, 01:09:42 pm
Ah the coaches lol. I'm going with they where sold to Arriva Trains Wales and this was before the new livery was applied. Well I'm going with that :beers:

It's a difficult life building a layout. Thank you for the kind comments  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 15, 2017, 01:16:48 pm
Ah the coaches lol. I'm going with they where sold to Arriva Trains Wales and this was before the new livery was applied. Well I'm going with that :beers:

It's a difficult life building a layout. Thank you for the kind comments  :beers:

BR's Provincial Railways used ex-NSE coaches (only the logos were changed) on Cardiff-Crewe line trains so you have a historical precedent.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 15, 2017, 01:27:12 pm
I've had the parent's in law over so totally knackered lol. Am I reading this correctly that it's actually happened historically :)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 15, 2017, 01:42:01 pm
I've had the parent's in law over so totally knackered lol. Am I reading this correctly that it's actually happened historically :)

Yes, it did but in BR days. BR Large Logo Class 37s were used to haul a mix of Regional Railways and ex-NSE liveried Mark 1s as replacements for the previous BR Blue Class 33s and BR Blue & Grey Mark 1s.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 15, 2017, 02:06:01 pm
That is even better good news. I was going to ask for a Class 37 Large Logo for my birthday as pressie of the Mrs, I'll definitely be asking now. Pure wealth of knowledge :beers:

Seriously where do you even start or case of just information you've need to know over time?
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on April 15, 2017, 03:20:55 pm
I'm really liking how the layout is progressing. Keep up the good work :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 15, 2017, 04:19:22 pm
Thank you, I'm currently building a second brewery as left the first in a box in the garage and unfortunately it's got damp but hey positives I get to build more :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 15, 2017, 05:02:02 pm
That is even better good news. I was going to ask for a Class 37 Large Logo for my birthday as pressie of the Mrs, I'll definitely be asking now. Pure wealth of knowledge :beers:

Seriously where do you even start or case of just information you've need to know over time?

I've been buying railway magazines since I was a schoolboy (and my late father had a subscription to "Trains Illustrated" / "Modern Railways" in the early to mid-1960s). I used to travel throughout the U.K., mainly by train, for many years. But I remember seeing the Cardiff-Crewe trains very well and have fond memories associated with them. Old copies of "Modern Railways Pictorial" is the best source for BR trains in the 1980s. (Also worth considering is a digital subscription to the back numbers of the "Railway Magazine".)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 15, 2017, 05:55:05 pm
Thank you for the information. I'll definitely be on the look out for some. Really appreciate the reply  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 23, 2017, 03:02:26 am
It's near 3am and finally finished first pair of shops for the layout. I just had to complete the first pair lol. Another pair almost finished just chimneys & path left to complete but enough for now. I really enjoy seeing the building come to life. Very satisfying with the end result. There no where near perfect but I'm a happy lad lol

Not sure how many more I'll do I think I'll stick to houses there easier lol  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1000-230417025432.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Bealman on April 23, 2017, 03:19:47 am
Whoa! You are staying up late!

Very nice model.  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Innovationgame on April 23, 2017, 11:24:58 am
They look to be really nice models!
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 23, 2017, 06:16:24 pm
Thank you, They are very fiddly making up the shop front but got there in the end. I had a decent lye in today and completed the final two in the pack. :beers:

They do look nice on the layout added a orning using a spare window curtain which came out well. According to the Metcalfe website they are showing as discontinued which is sad as they are very nice model although possibly dated for a more modern?

EDIT: Waiting for plastic chimney pots to finish them off as prefer them over the paper included in the kit

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1000-230417180437.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 23, 2017, 06:33:13 pm
Very nice work, indeed. Maybe a scaled down photo of a real-life model shop window might be added?
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 23, 2017, 06:53:18 pm
Very nice work, indeed. Maybe a scaled down photo of a real-life model shop window might be added?

I think that would be a good idea. I'm on it, I'll use the printer at work tomorrow  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 23, 2017, 08:00:34 pm
Very nice work, indeed. Maybe a scaled down photo of a real-life model shop window might be added?

I think that would be a good idea. I'm on it, I'll use the printer at work tomorrow  :beers:

Great. I look forward to seeing the results. I was thinking you could replace the existing 'behind the glass' insert. I have been thinking of doing something similar for my cornish pastie stand and beer and cider stands (on the back interior wall) for the fairs in the station yard. Of course, only I will be able to see them, unlike the interior of your model shop window.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on April 23, 2017, 08:13:09 pm
Layout looks good. I really like the retaining walls-brilliant.
Would the shops look better in one long terrace with no gaps? Just a suggestion.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 23, 2017, 08:25:49 pm
@Chris in Prague (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895) I kind of glued the whole back piece in and it's looking unfortunatley it's going to tear the side walling so I'm going to have to leave it for now :( But its a learning curve for the future  :beers:

@port perran (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230) I totally agree they will be moved, I was going to create little alley ways for the rear of the shops for bin collections etc but think together would look much better  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 24, 2017, 06:49:17 am
No problem, I understand. You could always put a Closed and a For Sale sign in the window, instead. That would explain the empty contents and, alas, be quite prototypical.

I also agree with Martin about adapting the buildings to form a terrace and the excellent, weathered appearance of the retaining walls.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 24, 2017, 08:59:30 am
@Chris in Prague (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895) I agree I does need something more or a reason it is empty. Instead of gluing on the window I might so a To Let or For Sale sign attached to the wall instead like the usual residential home or possible the For Sale signs sticking out like a triangle ( Edit found a photo ) but bigger would be cool, Thank you for the idea

Appreciate the walling comments got to do the buildings to match they look way to new oops :beers:

http://www.propertypilot.co.uk/ppimages/1376+353.jpg (http://www.propertypilot.co.uk/ppimages/1376+353.jpg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Innovationgame on April 24, 2017, 11:44:48 am
They are very nice shops.  I think I'll get some next time I order from Metcalfe, along with other low relief buildings to make up the backscene. 
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 24, 2017, 12:53:09 pm
They are very nice shops.  I think I'll get some next time I order from Metcalfe, along with other low relief buildings to make up the backscene.

The red stone low relief are out of stock but stone ones still available. Might be worth ordering them now incase they also go out of stock :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 24, 2017, 02:46:39 pm
@Chris in Prague ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895[/url]) I agree I does need something more or a reason it is empty. Instead of gluing on the window I might so a To Let or For Sale sign attached to the wall instead like the usual residential home or possible the For Sale signs sticking out like a triangle ( Edit found a photo ) but bigger would be cool, Thank you for the idea.

[url]http://www.propertypilot.co.uk/ppimages/1376+353.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.propertypilot.co.uk/ppimages/1376+353.jpg[/url])


My pleasure. I really like your proposed solution. I look forward to the next update.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 24, 2017, 04:45:33 pm
:beers: One year Anniversary for Llanrumney Sidings :beers:

What a year total change of size and baseboard lol, Plenty of kits made and lessons learned. Many Many very kind fellow members posting advise and kind words, Thank You  :beers:

On to the next year :bounce:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on April 24, 2017, 06:02:21 pm
Happy Anniversary.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 24, 2017, 07:32:49 pm
Happy 1st Anniversary for a very attractive little layout which is coming along very well.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Newportnobby on April 24, 2017, 09:07:23 pm
Happy 1st Birthday!
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Drakken on April 28, 2017, 12:52:58 am
Well somehow after six hours ( No idea how it took that long ) pair of low relief terraced houses. I'm going with roads between the houses and shops. Anyways minor update here they are :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1000-280417005144.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1000-280417005208.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Innovationgame on April 28, 2017, 06:36:51 am
They look good.  I have ordered some from Metcalfe for my backscene, when I get round to it.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: port perran on April 28, 2017, 07:57:48 am
Looks effective. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 28, 2017, 08:06:59 am
Excellent work. They look highly realistic.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Drakken on December 06, 2017, 09:17:58 pm
After a long time out over summer enjoying my new to me MG ZS (car I've wanted for so long) back to the layout I go :beers:

One improvement which isn't physically anything on the layout itself but a new desk to bring it down to eye level so I can enjoy it without moving it all the time when I was using it in the past. I had a good think about the layout and decided a new direction yet again and going down the TMD route. I think it will fit the layout better and more of an excuse to buy more trains.

Anyways I'll stop waffling on a leave a last photo of how it is before i remove all the lower level grass building etc. Look forward to chatting to you all again and getting back in the flow.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1000-061217211554.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1000-201017115039.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 06, 2017, 09:26:37 pm
Welcome back. I look forward to watching the new developments. Any excuse to buy more locos. is a good one in my book! 8-)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Drakken on December 06, 2017, 09:41:11 pm
Thank you for the Welcome  :beers:

Exactly my thoughts lol, Can't have enough looking the Class 40 at the minute but my heart says Class 50  :heart2:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 06, 2017, 09:52:07 pm
The GWR Green "Sir Edward Elgar" Class 50 will certainly tempt me! (maybe I should buy an old Graham Farish one when the new Dapol(?) ones come out?)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Drakken on December 06, 2017, 10:15:46 pm
It would be nice for the older Class 50's to go down in price when the Dapol ones are released, but then I think we would prefer the new one lol  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: port perran on December 07, 2017, 04:58:53 pm
Good to see you back on here.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Drakken on January 03, 2018, 11:28:12 pm
Right I've got a bit carried away got the track down and deleted the design somehow I was going to use the layout from months ago. It's definatley going to be a TMD but before I have to start all over again trying to figure this out I was wondering how you guy's would plan this layout?  :beers:

I always like to see what others would do with the same layout design  :thumbsup:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1000-030118232338.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Newportnobby on January 04, 2018, 09:46:26 am
Is it safe to assume arrivals will be on the topmost track at the RHS, and is there any chance we can see the hidden track top left please?
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Drakken on January 06, 2018, 05:26:38 pm
@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) thank you for the reply, Sorry mine is so late still trying to get over the flu still :'(

I've wired all up and works a perfectly I just don't want to really have to change anything of I can help it lol  :beers:

I was hoping to use the entrance from the middle from the exit of the walling and use under neath as a hidden sidings to store incoming and out going loco's. Found a 00 Variant called Franwood on Youtube which is very similiar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x66wQ9nqMw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x66wQ9nqMw)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1000-060118172545.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 06, 2018, 06:20:31 pm
Thank you for the latest update. I agree the 00 layout is remarkably similar.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Drakken on January 06, 2018, 10:53:36 pm
@Chris in Prague (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895) Thank you :beers:

I've wired it right and it works so really don't want to have to redo it lol. I can't wait to start with the scenery I've bought a Kibri tank and fuelling depot I'm looking forward to putting together and finally starting to feel well myself :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Drakken on January 08, 2018, 06:23:49 pm
Well I've been messing around today with the layout and think I've got it sorted out finally. I think I'm going to remove the little lineside hut and place the twin lane engine shed and take off a little track to even up track lengths. It's coming together and think I finally have a proper plan  :beers:

Still more shops to be built then I can start on the detailing as the overall setup of the layout will be resolved

:thankyousign: for the help, Two years and third variant and I'm set lol

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1000-080118182056.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 10, 2018, 03:59:37 pm
It's coming along very nicely. You need at least one grounded van body for stores, etc. The hut can be moved to a new location, bottom left, perhaps?
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: port perran on January 10, 2018, 04:52:16 pm
Looks really good.
Excellent modelling.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Drakken on January 22, 2018, 03:31:49 pm
Thank you for the kind comments, Feel it's getting there work stopped again as looking for a small van to start my own business with but honestly this forum and comments keep me going when I feel I just don't get enough time to enjoy it  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 22, 2018, 06:03:19 pm
I wish you success with getting a small van to start your own business and look forward to future updates.
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Drakken on August 15, 2018, 11:31:34 pm
Well nearly 8 months later & I'm finally got some time to start on the layout again. Thanks to my partner buying this little beauty unexpectedly. I do like to build but I can't be upset, I'm so happy with it. Looking forward to some nights in building.

Look forward to catching up with some of the older builds and seeing so fresh new builds and ideas  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/1000-150818232249.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/1000-150818232302.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney Sidings Now TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 16, 2018, 08:05:31 am
Very good to see you back. The new building looks very good.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on August 20, 2018, 01:54:51 pm
Glad to be back at the desk in front of the layout but unfortunately not the way I would have liked.

The business didn't really work way to much competition out there and ended up unfortunately selling all my locomotives, rolling stock & Control to keep it going but all failed. Anyways at least I tried but at least I can start afresh with era and place correct stock this time when funds allow  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Innovationgame on August 20, 2018, 02:08:09 pm
Sorry to here of your disappointment.  But remember, turn every crisis into an opportunity.  Good luck with the new approach. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on August 20, 2018, 02:12:50 pm
Thank you for the kind words, I has it's advantages that it failed to be honest. Not being away doing the odd job here and there and spending time with my partner is a massive one, Can focus on home life again and as it was a side job attempt no massive loss just makes you appreciate the time and effort other do when starting out.

Thinking to try keep costs down may go back to DC from DCC as only a small layout and use a couple of dummy locomotives to fill the empty space on track.

At least I can be completely BR Blue again now :laugh:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 20, 2018, 02:16:34 pm
Very sorry to read that it did not work out and you had to sell all your stock and controller. At least you tried and many people do not even do that.

Your new layout will definitely benefit from all your previous experience.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on August 20, 2018, 02:20:25 pm
@Chris in Prague (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895) Thank you, I've kept the layout as part built by myself and father so couldn't let that go but happy it's still here and now waiting for the time I can do some Metcalfe kits or wire it up to DC and purchase as locomotive again but the time will come.

Llanrumney still stands lol, It's a learning experience and life is never ending on those :)

I'll be checking your layout update when home 'Work' PC I'm on won't load some photo's so looking forward to 8pm this evening to view them :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Newportnobby on August 20, 2018, 02:56:54 pm
Didn't someone say "Tis better to have tried and failed than to not have tried at all"?

Good luck with the new BR Blue venture.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: port perran on August 20, 2018, 04:31:17 pm
Glad to see you back but like others, Iím sorry to hear that your business venture failed.
Iím now retired but was self employed for 15 years till last November so I know how hard you have to work to make it a success.
As Mick says, itís good to have tried. If you didnít you would always ask yourself ďwhat if?Ē
Good luck for the future and hopefully a succesful return to modelling.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on August 20, 2018, 04:40:06 pm
Thank you, It's one of those things at least I tried better than never having ago and like you say. Won't be a what if. Can focus a little time to the layout and eventually get a few exhibitions still never been to one yet
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: chrispearce on August 21, 2018, 03:24:11 am
Didn't someone say "Tis better to have tried and failed than to not have tried at all"?

I think the original was," 'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all". Tennyson, I believe.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: chrispearce on August 21, 2018, 09:33:58 pm
Didn't someone say "Tis better to have tried and failed than to not have tried at all"?

I think the original was," 'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all". Tennyson, I believe.

That being said, NPN is utterly correct.  :D
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Innovationgame on August 22, 2018, 06:39:35 am
"Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better" - Samual Becket.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Bealman on August 22, 2018, 06:45:32 am
Didn't someone say "Tis better to have tried and failed than to not have tried at all"?

I think the original was," 'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all". Tennyson, I believe.

I always thought it was Rod Stewart  :D
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on September 15, 2018, 12:00:42 am
Well I done a purchase :doh:

Browsing online and came across this layout while window shopping as we all do lol, I sold the Van a couple weeks prior so decided to make an offer as absolutely loved the lighting and atmosphere of it. Few messages and the seller turned out to have been messed around ridiculous amounts, I offered to pay and collect tonight as they saying goes if you want it enough you'll drive for it so I did. Seller wanted rid of the hassle of constant messages about it rather than genuine interest so I offered what I had left off the Van £250. After a deep breath aslong as I looked after it the offer was accepted (Layout and Buildings only). So glad I bought a Volvo to replace the van so met up and now sitting at home going to sound like a school kid but absolutely over the moon with it.

Anyways photo's & what do I do as this has more interest to me than my current layout do I change the entire thread to this layout and make this my own or continue with the one already going?  :beers:

If I don't reply I've drove over my phone I usually use to check the forum lol  :doh:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/1000-140918235032.jpeg)

Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Newportnobby on September 15, 2018, 08:23:51 am
Unless you're going to call the new one Llanrumney TMD I'd suggest you start a new thread  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: port perran on September 15, 2018, 08:27:29 am
What size is the layout?
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on September 15, 2018, 09:02:59 am
Unless you're going to call the new one Llanrumney TMD I'd suggest you start a new thread  :thumbsup:

Think that maybe the way I go it's double the size of the current on and plenty still left to do :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on September 15, 2018, 09:03:41 am
What size is the layout?

I haven't double checked but listing stated 5ft x 16 Inches :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on September 15, 2018, 09:09:46 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/1000-140918235032.jpeg)

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:beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 15, 2018, 12:11:35 pm
Congratulations on your excellent purchase. I'm not sure about the waste of space at one end though with both a bridge and waste ground beyond it?
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on September 16, 2018, 09:11:24 pm
Congratulations on your excellent purchase. I'm not sure about the waste of space at one end though with both a bridge and waste ground beyond it?

Thank you, On the left hand side? It's a road at street level but the photo does make it look raised, Thinking a nice row of shops and pub on it and little car park for the pub with seating :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2018, 09:31:33 pm
Congratulations on your excellent purchase. I'm not sure about the waste of space at one end though with both a bridge and waste ground beyond it?

Thank you, On the left hand side? It's a road at street level but the photo does make it look raised, Thinking a nice row of shops and pub on it and little car park for the pub with seating :beers:

Ah, I see that, now. Thanks. I would have extended the sidings a little more. However, a nice row of shops with a pub and a little car park for the pub with seating :beers: sounds an excellent idea.  If the beer garden has a raised terrace cut into a rear hillside, it will be ideal for trainwatchers. 8-)
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on September 16, 2018, 09:39:23 pm
Now there's an idea :beers:

Sound's good to me now to implement it
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on September 19, 2018, 10:54:13 pm
Well after purchasing a new layout thought best to actually have a locomotive to run again so this little beauty showed up (Which I thought was cheap ) Dapol Class 73 GBRf 73141 'Charlotte' for £50.

Very happy with the purchase and came with a few extra coupling I'm trying to determine what they are exactly, Think they are Dapol Magnetic Couplings but probably wrong. On the layout looking well  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/1000-190918224008.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/1000-190918225253.png)

Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Innovationgame on September 20, 2018, 06:36:39 am
The two nearest the camera are Easy-Shunt magnetic couplings, but the others don't have the activation bar fitted, so I don't know what they are.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: NGS-PO on September 20, 2018, 08:05:27 am
The top two sets are dummy knuckle couplings. They work the same as the Rapidos, in that they hinge upward for uncoupling, and manually, again like the Rapidos.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on September 20, 2018, 12:57:29 pm
Thank you, That clears it up :beers:

Nice little freebie  ;)
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 08, 2018, 12:00:34 am
It was decided a more central placement of depot was needed & with investment the decision was taken move to a bigger location. Llanrumney is only a short distance from the Cardiff Canton Dept which unfortunately had fallen on harder times compared to it's hay day of a Steam traction which ceased on 8 September 1962 so a regeneration of the depot has taken place.

There are rumors of short lease contracts being signed with a couple of Local Steam Preservation Society's ( Possibly Ex Garw Valley ) for one siding would be available to use to store locomotives at the site & with continued support of the Llanrumney investors some of the old infrastructure has been saved and moved allow the ability of the preserved locomotives to be stabled at the location. This is continued support to not only invest in the future of the South Wales depot but help Preservation Society's rebuild & preserve some history for future generations to enjoy for years to home.

On the 02/09/77 these are the first photo's taken at the new site.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/1000-071018224610.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/1000-071018233721.jpeg)

Date, Names & Times have been changed to protect the innocent lol. new to this sort of writing, Please Bear with me  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 08, 2018, 10:25:20 am
Thank you, Draken, for the atmospheric photos. and the interesting update.

A great idea, Didcot shed was still used by BR WR as a stabling point into BR Blue days, although not far from Reading depot, whilst being also used by the GWS to store and restore their preserved rolling stock (the GWS moved in in 1967). I think BR had a siding or two outside the shed for stabling diesels? (It was closed to BR Steam 05/04/1965 and as a BR shed in June 1967.)

Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 09, 2018, 12:17:22 pm
Well the first daylight has hit over the depot & all is still. The locomotive's stored at the old depot will be arriving shortly but no set date has been set for the transfer. The fuel tankers are due to be refilled in the coming day's along with refurbishment of the two shunters mess rooms.

The small plot of land has been sold to a developer which now has planning for two semi detached houses which have been approved by the local council. As railway enthusiast it would be a lovely view for the fortunate families who purchase the houses.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/1000-091018120054.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 11, 2018, 09:50:42 pm
Many thanks for the photo. and update. I'm sure the two new semi-detached houses will be snapped up by railway enthusiasts and, no doubt, they will son jin the railway preservation volunteers on site and in the local pub's 'snug'. 8-)

I look forward to the arrival of the first of the locomotives to be stored at the old depot.

Cant Cove can be run in the BR Blue period so an enthusiast special of BR Blue & Grey coaches behind a BR Blue Class 37 is a future possibility?
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 11, 2018, 11:40:45 pm
To be honest I sold all my old stock when trying to start at business so thinking which locomotive to buy first. Still in a lot of doubt possibly a Class 42 to run the first allocation of fuel into the depot tanks at the moment but probably the houses then the TTA's to be completed before the first loco arrives. Like being in a sweet shop as a kid again lol.

I would love to see some BR Blue on Cant Cove, I'll be enthusiastically waiting for the date of the special to be announced  :beers:

I'm still stuck with which houses to go with Metcalfe or Kingsway Models ones. The metcalfe ones are more detailed but the Kingsway Models are something a little different & fit into the 1970's around time frame I would like

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=42819.msg533152#msg533152 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=42819.msg533152#msg533152) Kingsway Models Thread (Still waiting on the glue arriving)
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 12, 2018, 01:16:18 am
i started simple with a class 08, progressed added class 20, 25, 31, now have 37, 47, dmu
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 12, 2018, 10:12:02 am
Class 08 didn't even cross my mind to be honest, Your giving me to many decisions :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 12, 2018, 02:04:57 pm
theclass 03 worked on the  Gwendraeth Valley line, kidwelly - burry port coal but theclass 08 will do the job !!!!!!


Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 12, 2018, 04:02:04 pm
I think I'll go with your first recommendation the 08 as not much of a fan of the look of the 03's to be honest. Plus was the second loco that was originally bought for me back in late 90's :beers:

Ever seen a Class J94 & 08 Railfreight with two BR Blue & Grey buffet cars they were the days lol. I'm going to end up Rule 1 soon lol
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 12, 2018, 10:23:50 pm
One of those it's 10:23PM & I just want to build but tired decisions, Decisions :beers:

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Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 12, 2018, 10:26:36 pm
i would personally deal with that with a fresh mind over the weekend and dream locos
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 13, 2018, 12:44:51 am
Ever seen a Class J94 & 08 Railfreight with two BR Blue & Grey buffet cars they were the days lol. I'm going to end up Rule 1 soon lol

any excuse for an industrial scene ?

i have seen a preseved railway ncb steam loco with nk 1 coaches odd but rule 1 applies there, why not ?
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 13, 2018, 10:12:14 am
I really like the look of those houses, Chris, and I'm not, usually, a fan of cardboard kits. I used to live in one very similar style house, outside Manchester. I hope you waited until the morning to get started on them and look forward to seeing them in place.

If you'll be modelling a BR stabling point in an ex-BR diesel depot which has had most of the space rented out to a preservation society, then you can easily combine, for example, a Class J94, a Class 08 in BR Blue or "Railfreight" livery with BR Blue & Grey coaches. Almost any combination, in fact. A Class 08 is a very useful loco. to begin with. I am a big fan of the Class 03s and have both BR Green and BR Blue liveried examples. A BR Blue Class 37 is a must for any South Wales 1970s layout and I have one, here, albeit not, yet, renumbered from its 37xxx to a D series number nor DCC-fitted.

I have a BR Blue "Hymek" and "Warship" but they are at the back of the DCC-fitting queue. I do have, here, though a BR Blue "Hymek" with small warning panels and light grey cab surrounds plus Mk1 and a Mk2 Blue & Grey livery coaches. (Unfortunately, none of the Mk1s are WR or SR running number ones and the Mk2 is not either. All are due to be renumbered though. The Mk2 TSO will be renumbered to the LMR one in which I enjoyed a mammoth rail journey from Rugby to Kyle of Lochalsh and back, with my first serious girlfriend, back in the early 1970s! So, a visiting BR Blue era train from Penmayne, calling at Cant Cove, will be possible, later.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 13, 2018, 11:44:13 am
chris, have a look at :


http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/92117-south-wales-valleys-in-the-70s80s/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/92117-south-wales-valleys-in-the-70s80s/)

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/108868-wr-early-1980s-freight-south-wales-cardiff-area/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/108868-wr-early-1980s-freight-south-wales-cardiff-area/)

just to wheth the appetite and the knowledge. look forward to progress on the card kits
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 13, 2018, 04:47:01 pm
I really like the look of those houses, Chris, and I'm not, usually, a fan of cardboard kits. I used to live in one very similar style house, outside Manchester. I hope you waited until the morning to get started on them and look forward to seeing them in place.

If you'll be modelling a BR stabling point in an ex-BR diesel depot which has had most of the space rented out to a preservation society, then you can easily combine, for example, a Class J94, a Class 08 in BR Blue or "Railfreight" livery with BR Blue & Grey coaches. Almost any combination, in fact. A Class 08 is a very useful loco. to begin with. I am a big fan of the Class 03s and have both BR Green and BR Blue liveried examples. A BR Blue Class 37 is a must for any South Wales 1970s layout and I have one, here, albeit not, yet, renumbered from its 37xxx to a D series number nor DCC-fitted.

I have a BR Blue "Hymek" and "Warship" but they are at the back of the DCC-fitting queue. I do have, here, though a BR Blue "Hymek" with small warning panels and light grey cab surrounds plus Mk1 and a Mk2 Blue & Grey livery coaches. (Unfortunately, none of the Mk1s are WR or SR running number ones and the Mk2 is not either. All are due to be renumbered though. The Mk2 TSO will be renumbered to the LMR one in which I enjoyed a mammoth rail journey from Rugby to Kyle of Lochalsh and back, with my first serious girlfriend, back in the early 1970s! So, a visiting BR Blue era train from Penmayne, calling at Cant Cove, will be possible, later.


Thank you for the kind words :beers:

I stopped where I was & continued this morning. Made on little mistake and put a glued up finger on the front wall but I'll be getting covered in a little ive so not to bad of an error. The houses has been put in temporary place as I'll need to pull up some of the scenery to get them in but I think well worth it for a little more detail and focal point. The Ratio kit for drain pipes, guttering & chimneys hasn't arrived yet so onto the next house today :)

I'm so glad I'm getting information on a Class 37 is a definite purchase as aslong with the Class 50 I love the sound they produce. It's seems you have one big backlog to get through but that's only a good thing in my eyes plenty to keep you going through the coming winter months. There's so much to think of getting the rollingstock scene correct. Not sure if I'm being over picky but I'm trying and found a 08 Stabled and photographed at Canton Cardiff which when purchased will need renumber which I'm really looking forward to

Crewearpley40 Yet more fantastic links thank you very much, Somemore enjoyable reading & photo's for a quite night tonight

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Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 13, 2018, 05:18:53 pm
an interesting article re 1991 cardiff allocation

http://www.lococarriage.org.uk/canton.html (http://www.lococarriage.org.uk/canton.html)

what i meant. i do remember 3 yes 3 class 37s n coal trains bargoed - radyr - severn tunnel junction services and the use f class 37s on the port talbot riron ore / steel maybe llanwerns
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 14, 2018, 02:25:14 pm
I never realised how busy the depot was & how much stock over the years was stabled there. The variety through the years is exactly what I'm looking for as I'll most likely update the layout through the years, Dirty the older stock and leave the newer relatively clean.

Not sure why but I had it in my head South Wales would have been one of the quieter depot's but thanks to the links you've kindly posted, It's opened my eyes to the depot over the years  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 14, 2018, 03:15:52 pm
keep it small and simple. i said when i started my plan, with few locos, wagons, a dmu and 3 coaches cardiff canton  was a hectic place !!!!!!!!

bit like crewe in my youth
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 14, 2018, 03:25:38 pm
Keep it small and simple. I said when I started my plan, with few locos, wagons, a DMU and 3 coaches Cardiff Canton was a hectic place !!!!!!!!

bit like Crewe in my youth

That sounds like a very good plan. A small shed near the head of one of the South Wales valleys serving a passenger branchline and a network of local freight only colliery lines.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 14, 2018, 03:31:12 pm
i had a small fleet t start - easier with electrics, starting out a few years ago, now due to space chris, aka drakken, would start with class 08, 20 / 25, 31, 37, dmu, couple of mk1s, wagons - coal, steel, brake van. tanker, open wagon or two, box van, just as chris in prague says keep simple. south wales layouts are interesting but its your layout !!!!

Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 14, 2018, 04:18:11 pm
A Class 20, especially not as one of a pair, would be quite unusual in South Wales. I'd start with the most common, a Class 08 and a Class 37. Then a Class 25, followed by a Class 31 as they were less common never being allocated to a South Wales depot. A BR Blue or Blue & Grey diesel railcar rather than a larger (and more expensive DMU) would, if it was me, come after the Class 08 and Class 37.

A pair of 4w diesel fuel tank wagons would come first, for the fuelling point, then the others, as above. One of each to start and not very expensive to buy secondhand.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 14, 2018, 04:22:15 pm
Definitely starting with an Class 08 just wondering leave it as it or weathered, Very useful locomotive to start with. At least move around the TTA wagon's around Inglenook style, Well sort off  :beers:

@Chris in Prague (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895) Literally typing what you both recommended as you replied to the thread. I've got the TTA wagon's for a little side project, Went with the Peco kit build ones very cost effective
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 14, 2018, 04:55:01 pm
Weathering is very much a personal matter of taste. South Wales Class 08s could be seen from ex-works to faded and very dirty; chose a prototype photo. you like. Personally, I'd go for just sufficient weathering to bring out the detailing.

It's a pity you missed the unbranded plain black Class B tankers as a pair of those would be ideal for a fuelling point but the Peco kit-built wagons, vans, and tank wagons can be made and painted to look very good with the right transfers.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 14, 2018, 05:00:21 pm
I watch Everard Junction on Youtube & his weathering of a Class 08 in BR Blue weathered, I liked the overall look of the grime build up. Something to look forward to but Rule 1 may have to be implemented as Absolutley fell in Love with the Class 66 in Large Logo Livery is simply a must have  :beers:

Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 14, 2018, 05:04:07 pm
thats what i was going to suggest. depends how much space / size of your layout !!!
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 14, 2018, 05:17:42 pm
Unfortunately this photo wasn't as clear as I first thought on my phone but should give a fair idea of size of the layout. But it is 5ft x 16 Inches baseboard
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 14, 2018, 05:24:20 pm
sounds good chris. maybe a representation f a steel train , cal train and or small rail served depot, but keep simple the stock. i made a mistake of having too much after a friend who sadly is no longer with us, left me stock that was unrealistic, too much and / or unsuitable for my space needs, i sold on


went to the drawing board for small locos, stock and stuck to my plans, good luck
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 14, 2018, 05:30:29 pm
I'm definitely taking my time with deciding what locomotives & rolling stock I purchase. I especially would like to build most of the rolling stock myself (None Coaches if any ever appear).

Like they there's no rush :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 14, 2018, 11:34:56 pm
Well had a couple of hours spare this evening, Not enough to complete the house to the kit end point but couldn't help to see what they look like. I'm so happy with the result something I maybe half good at for a change lol

Little night shot again but can't help it love abit of atmosphere :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/1000-141018233114.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 19, 2018, 04:58:45 pm
Had an unexpected day off from work & time alone so decided to make a start on the missing garages. I had thought about doing the conservatories on the side but thought it would be too much for the space. I decided to cut one garage door open ready for something 1970's to nestle inside. Finsihed up the second house only Ratio kits awaiting arrival to finish them up.

I'm thinking a little backstreet car repair shop at the end of the steet loads to rearrange before pulling scenery p but starting to get the feeling it's coming together, Although now I'm feeling the trackwork is a little bare but stuggling with idea's to add a little bit more detail.

I've got a A4 Box file of odd's and ends and decided to have a go of creating an abandoned factory & came up with this. Put a couple hours in smashing windows boarding it up but really happy with something unique & made from free scraps.

The wood boards were made from the leftovers of the canopy kit worth keeping all leftovers as advised by a fellow member on here (forgive me their name slips my mind )

:beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/1000-191018165106.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/1000-191018165134.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: port perran on October 19, 2018, 05:38:40 pm
That looks really good and to me, the abandoned factory is really effective .
Great work.
As far as Iím concerned, the trackwork is just fine.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 19, 2018, 07:32:01 pm
Very nice work. I think the abandoned factory needs a little weathering, particularly the sign.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 19, 2018, 08:29:47 pm
Thank you for the kind comments, I totally agree the factory needs alot more weathering to dull down the overall look :beers:

Trackwork really? I'll take notice and leave as is :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 19, 2018, 08:54:25 pm
Weathering applied using powders, It needed it, Thank you for the recommendation :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/1000-191018205244.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: dannyboy on October 19, 2018, 09:07:13 pm
That factory looks excellent now - amazing what a bit of 'muck' will do.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2018, 05:10:30 pm
That factory looks excellent now - amazing what a bit of 'muck' will do.  :thumbsup:

Seconded. It now looks very realistic. A great job.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: mk1gtstu on October 20, 2018, 07:52:23 pm
Superb layout  :thumbsup: Keep the updates coming  :greatpicturessign:

Cheers, Stu
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 23, 2018, 11:00:28 am
I decided to take the plunge and remove the greenery from the where the houses are intended to be placed, Wondering should I build in place or build a sort of small diorama off the layout and place when finished. Thinking plasticard for a thin base so it doesn't raise it about the level of the footpath but thich enough so it's not flimsy base. I'm not to sure on the conservatories not sure there's enough space to allow a decent front garden along with them & garages.

The garage at the end will be left as I'm liking the forgotten about fenced off look, Not sure if anyone would agree but gives a level of history to the end of the street :beers:

Looking at it again maybe a bit overcrowded

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/1000-231018105134.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: dannyboy on October 23, 2018, 12:19:43 pm
Looks okay to me.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Newportnobby on October 23, 2018, 01:03:12 pm
Looks fine to me but I think the greenery round the houses is needed to stop them appearing to be 'floating' :hmmm:
Maybe the fenced off garage is now used as an electricity sub station?
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 23, 2018, 01:29:12 pm
I agree, I'll be redoing the gardens & driveways around the houses & possibly changing the fencing on the houses side of the street to hedges instead as more homely in my opinion. I think I'll use the matchstick method to lay a drive and pathway to the house. They did have a foam below which was very uneven to build a street onto so removed to start with a clean slate :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 26, 2018, 12:24:17 am
I couldn't help but have a go at this video thing lol, My first little video of my layout :beers:

Before it can't be unseen the walling that looks totally unstraight is was just put on the layout as a test to see if I liked it ;)

Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Phoenix on October 26, 2018, 01:24:51 am
Hi,

All is looking fabulous, the loaded skips, with the mound of whatever it is look so natural where you have placed them. The night photo is excellent, very atmospheric. I really struggle to get a good night photo.

Looking forward to seeing the houses bedded in. I get what you say about the conservatories. Maybe you could just keep one in place (the posh neighbors ! ) as a conservatory is usually an "add on" and two houses would probably not have identical conservatories anyway.

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 26, 2018, 01:36:00 am
Thank you Kevin for the kind comments :beers:

I never thought of the posh neighbours so I'm going with that for definitely. The lights are covered in Tamiya Yellow Clear to try dull them down a bit only the main shed left to do to match them. I do miss the old motorway 'orange' lights of old way more atmospheric unlike these modern stuff lol

I'm not sure how much I'll be posting on there but thought always nice to try something new from the armchair anyways :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Bealman on October 26, 2018, 01:50:41 am
Very atmospheric, with heaps of character.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: port perran on October 26, 2018, 08:15:47 am
Great stuff.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 26, 2018, 10:43:30 am
I think I'll give this video stuff a go after everyone's kind words, Really appreciate it  :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 27, 2018, 01:24:02 pm
I donít think that the street looks a bit overcrowded. I would also recommend building the side of the street with the houses as a sort of small diorama off the layout and then place when finished. I would also use plasticard for a thin base so it is not raised about the level of the footpath but thick enough so it's not a flimsy base. I also agree to having only one house with a conservatory and replacing the second one with a wooden shed. The front gardens donít have to be too big. Martinís house gardens on his latest mini layout, Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case, are small but very effective, including even a fish pond! I would add greenery around the houses and as hedges to hide the edge of the lift out base. (I plan to do something similar with the two-house terrace near Cant Cove loco. shed.) I would also replace the fenced off garage (use it to replace the second conservatory) with an electricity sub-station but does anyone make up ready-to-plant in 2mm Scale?
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on October 28, 2018, 01:22:26 am
Thank you for a lot of idea's and information, I agree one conservatory is probably enough and both have garage's leaves a little more space to start a front garden for both. I'll definatley use the diorama off the layout and build first saves any damage I might inflict knowing me.

The first bit of stock has arrived & possibly in real life you can't pass up a good deal lol. I wanted a couple of Railfrieght wagons to fill one siding but for £25 I couldn't turn it down. I would like a couple of the smaller VEA wagons to give a little variety but this should be a TMD oops :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/1000-281018012136.jpeg)
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 31, 2018, 12:26:53 pm
A very fine set of Peco "Railfreight" Extra-LWB wagons and vans. A bargain.

I can produce a similar rake leaving Cant Cove, with matching brake van. (2017, and earlier, pictures, below.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2017-02-05%2011.48.00_zpsgtchce2u.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2017-02-05%2011.48.00_zpsgtchce2u.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20170205_114842_zpsvronv5rt.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20170205_114842_zpsvronv5rt.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20170205_114826_zpsb6ekvefu.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20170205_114826_zpsb6ekvefu.jpg.html)

A more mixed rake. Another BR "Railfreight" train stands at Cant Cove awaiting an airbrake-fitted diesel loco. to arrive from Wadebridge to collect it. [The sharp-eyed will notice that only one, ex-SR "Tarpaulin" Ferry Wagon has had its axlebox covers painted yellow. The remainder will had theirs done ASAP.]

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2016-07-03%2015.54.57_zpslz2fbf2y.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2016-07-03%2015.54.57_zpslz2fbf2y.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on November 13, 2018, 02:04:15 pm
@Chris in Prague (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895) Photo's not loading at work but will look forward to seeing them this evening.

I'm struggling at the moment on trying to add 'age' to the overall layout. The layout has in it's history transitioned from Steam to Diesel but would like the feel of the past of steam has not been wiped out.

I've been trying to think & add possibly an old water tower or derelict coaling stage something like this but struggling where to have it located. The layout will have one siding which has been assigned to a preservation society to store one locomotive. So not to sure have current diesel, Preservation steam & remnants or the old days will work

Kind Regards :beers:
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: port perran on November 13, 2018, 03:16:00 pm
I can see Chrisís photos ok so thatís strange.
I suppose if you are wanting to add age as you refer to it. The old coaling stage etc is fine, how about an old steam shed as well, perhaps minus its roof, acting as an interim diesel stabling point.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 13, 2018, 09:13:26 pm
Some diesel depts, Bristol Bath Road comes to mind, did keep their steam age water towers for some reason. Otherwise, Martin's suggestion of a roofless steam shed (in your case single road?) used for diesel stabling, like Exeter and, despite it having been rebuilt and refoofed for use as a diesel depot, later, also Worcester Shrub Hill shed lost its rf (saved on council rates), would be appropriate.

Or, there is the example of Didcot, as mentioned earlier. An ex-GWR steam depot preserved with all the original fittings but also used to stable BR diesels. You could have a single-road steam shed, alongside the BR diesel shed?

Make some cardboard mockup buildings, etc., and move them around until you get an arrangement that works for you.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: 25901JFM on November 15, 2018, 03:57:28 pm
Some diesel depts, Bristol Bath Road comes to mind, did keep their steam age water towers for some reason. Otherwise, Martin's suggestion of a roofless steam shed (in your case single road?) used for diesel stabling, like Exeter and, despite it having been rebuilt and refoofed for use as a diesel depot, later, also Worcester Shrub Hill shed lost its rf (saved on council rates), would be appropriate.

Or, there is the example of Didcot, as mentioned earlier. An ex-GWR steam depot preserved with all the original fittings but also used to stable BR diesels. You could have a single-road steam shed, alongside the BR diesel shed?

Make some cardboard mockup buildings, etc., and move them around until you get an arrangement that works for you.

Chris, water towers retained for topping up water tanks for the steam heat boilers / generators on the diesels possibly?  A lot of them in the early days had roof mounted fillers in order to top up supplies from water towers / cranes.  Most were later modified to be filled from hoses instead.
John.
Title: Re: Llanrumney TMD
Post by: Drakken on November 15, 2018, 10:53:13 pm
Firstly sincere apologies to all, I've not been well & not replying promptly,

@25901JFM (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4449) Really got my thinking of modernising the tower in some way possibly using the hoses somehow to wash diesel's very crudely in the beginning before something proper was put in place?

@Chris in Prague (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895) I like the idea possibly keeping a slightly derelict steam single road shed and really think about tweaking my era to allow the end of steam rather than preservation I was originally thinking to allow the less of upkeep on steam due to new buildings being built for diesels. I do enjoy a good rail-freight rake definatley need some adjusting and more mixed rake like yours

@port perran (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230) No idea why but a newly left or disused coaling stage to go with the water tower would fit in really nicely and tie in possibly each end of the layout

@Everyone Appreciate all the replys helping me out, Sincerely Thank you :beers:

Now another issue has appeared apologies lol, It's meant to be a TMD but with a Rail-Freight rake & now this... What do I do lol. I think a passing loop maybe needed  :beers:

£5 For the Lima Class 55 which is basically a dummy but couldn't turn it down (Needs renumbered when I find a photo of one in south wales region I can match to & £2.50 each for the Milk Wagons couldn't say no

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/1000-151118225022.jpeg)