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Title: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on June 02, 2015, 10:29:04 am
Well, it's been 6 or 7 years since I sold my last layout to @findus (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=72) and not a lot has happened with my new layout in that time.  :(  This has been due to work, this forum, and two boys!  So, I'm going to build it in modules in the hope that this will be easier to get sections completed!

So, what will St Christopher's Green be?  This will be the main station, set in the 1990's Network SouthEast era.  The plan may change, but currently there will be 6 platforms which will be able to take trains up to 8 carriages long.  The platforms will all be brick built (Victorian era) with modern buildings on top.

There will also be a modern footbridge spanning all 6 tracks, which may incorporate lifts for passengers - pretend of course. 

I may also incorporate a bay platform, but there will certainly be sidings at the bottom.

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/tank_fv101/Layout1.png)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: D1042 Western Princess on June 02, 2015, 10:36:51 am
Hello Tank, 'St Christopher's Green' - a great tribute to one of the last 'true' railwaymen, and I write that as a former employee of NSE and worked under Chris Green.
Good luck with the new layout.
Greg.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Bealman on June 02, 2015, 10:39:20 am
I respect the above post. But I guess it's gonna be a toothpaste tube then  :D
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: port perran on June 02, 2015, 10:57:47 am
Hope you find the time to devote to the layout.
Looking forward to pictures in due course.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on June 02, 2015, 11:58:04 am
Hello Tank, 'St Christopher's Green' - a great tribute to one of the last 'true' railwaymen, and I write that as a former employee of NSE and worked under Chris Green.
Good luck with the new layout.
Greg.

Good to hear of a past NSE employee on here.  :)  Were they pleasant to work for?

Thanks Port Perran, fingers crossed!  :D  Yes Bealman, it is toothepaste.....! ;)

Here is the baseboard that I made a couple of weeks ago...

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Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: D1042 Western Princess on June 02, 2015, 02:07:41 pm
Hi Tank, I joined BR at the same time as Network South East was formed. I started as a Travelling Ticket Collector (ATE in newspeak) and worked my way up through the grades, taking some 20 years, to Train Manager (Senior Guard, in old speak) retiring after nearly 30 years service.
NSE was an excellent rail system to work for; effectively it took all the commuter routes into London and brought them under one operational 'umbrella', for those who may not know.
I was based at Reading and covered both the Paddington and Waterloo lines from there. It was interesting, enjoyable work but then some idiot, sorry, clever person decided to privatise the railway and, in common with everyone working on the system back then felt :censored: !!!
We stopped getting railway staff at the top and got 'career managers' who wouldn't know which end of the train to put a tail lamp! My first Guards Inspector had joined the railway in 1953 as an engine cleaner then worked his way through the grades to Senior Inspector, London Area, Western Region. When I left my then governor had been on the railway 6 months and had come from the banking industry!
I think that will tell you anything you want to know. :veryangry: :censored:

Administrator Comment Tank - Tidied up post. :)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: D1042 Western Princess on June 02, 2015, 02:09:39 pm
Hi Tank - post 5 - opps! :-[ Something went very wrong in replying to your question. :sorrysign:
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Newportnobby on June 02, 2015, 03:15:43 pm
Get a load of those baseboard joints :goggleeyes:
No butt joints like on my layouts :-[
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Vonk on June 02, 2015, 05:18:56 pm
Get a load of those baseboard joints :goggleeyes:
No butt joints like on my layouts :-[

I don't think there is a name for "does it look square even after my sawing attempts..."
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Geoff on June 02, 2015, 06:04:45 pm
Good luck with the build Tank, i hope the build goes well.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Cooper on June 02, 2015, 07:27:48 pm
Speaking as a former employee of Network South East, Network North Division, (we didn't quite box the compass, even though we could easily have been called the North Western Division!) I can only wholly concur with Greg's view. Good luck with the build, I'm looking forward to see it develop. Are you going to get an NSE shove duff Tank?
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: RossE on June 02, 2015, 07:57:59 pm
The plan looks and sounds great Tank.
Really looking forward to following the development of this build.
Ross
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on June 02, 2015, 08:42:56 pm
Hi Tank, I joined BR at the same time as Network South East was formed. I started as a Travelling Ticket Collector (ATE in newspeak) and worked my way up through the grades, taking some 20 years, to Train Manager (Senior Guard, in old speak) retiring after nearly 30 years service.

It sounds like you had a nice long career, but a shame that too many new managers came in and didn't know what they were doing.  Madness!

Get a load of those baseboard joints :goggleeyes:
No butt joints like on my layouts :-[

Thanks Mick, quite proud of them.  :)  It's a 'Corner Halving Joint', glued and two screws in each.  Far stronger than butt joints or mitre butt joints which tend to flex.

I don't think there is a name for "does it look square even after my sawing attempts..."

:D  It's just practice and patience.  They looked pretty rough before I belt sanded them!

Speaking as a former employee of Network South East, Network North Division, (we didn't quite box the compass, even though we could easily have been called the North Western Division!) I can only wholly concor with Greg's view. Good luck with the build, I'm looking forward to see it develop. Are you going to get an NSE shove duff Tank?

Another ex NSE employee.  :thumbsup:  Thank you.  Yes, I'll be getting all of the modern NSE diesels as they come out, and some Mk2 carriages.  I already have quite a fleet of vehicles to run on it, which will be mainly 3rd rail stock - although I'll run anything on it to be honest.  :)

Thanks also to Geoff and RossE. :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: D1042 Western Princess on June 02, 2015, 08:59:48 pm
 :thankyousign: for your excellent work re my 'messed up post' No 5! :-[
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: D1042 Western Princess on June 02, 2015, 09:19:09 pm
Hi Tank, I joined BR at the same time as Network South East was formed. I started as a Travelling Ticket Collector (ATE in newspeak) and worked my way up through the grades, taking some 20 years, to Train Manager (Senior Guard, in old speak) retiring after nearly 30 years service.

It sounds like you had a nice long career, but a shame that too many new managers came in and didn't know what they were doing.  Madness!


It was more than just those routes of course and my route knowledge (area) covered from Paddington to Bristol, Hereford (via Evesham), Stratford on Avon via Oxford and High Wycombe, all the branch lines in the London (WR and SR - from Waterloo) areas, Reading to Basingstoke, Bedwyn, Gatwick Airport and Tonbridge in BR times/early Thames Trains days but when FGW took over it was cut back to just Reading to Hereford, Paddington, Gatwick and Basingstoke, all either with 165/166 Turbos  ::), HSTs  :thumbsdown:or 180s  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:.
For a man who entered a service filled with 47/50 hauled passenger, newspaper and parcels trains, vacuum brakes, MK 1 coaches or the 455s, REPs, VEPs and CIGS on the Southern and so on to be stuck on Turbos was boring and HSTs even worse. :(
Anything you want to know Tank, just ask. 
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: gc4946 on June 02, 2015, 09:27:53 pm
Looking for ideas about street names, etc.

Biography of Chris Green on Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Green_(railway_manager) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Green_(railway_manager))


Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: D1042 Western Princess on June 02, 2015, 09:46:20 pm
Looking for ideas about street names, etc.


How about:
Western Way (The principal route, of course)
Duff Road,
Bash Street (the school there is nationally famous)
Hoover Lane (the one with the scrap metal yard of course  :))
Gricer's Walk (the road which runs past the MPD)
Letsbe Avenue (where the police station is located)
Peak Hill
Grippers Approach
River Tadpole

I'm sure I could think of more, given time.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on June 03, 2015, 07:50:18 am
Thanks chaps.  I haven't thought that far ahead yet, but appreciate the enthusiasm.  :)  Will certainly come back to these ideas in a few months, or years!!!  :D
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Bealman on June 03, 2015, 08:21:07 am
Shame it's not an Australian layout. You could call it Bringamugalong  ;D ;)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: D1042 Western Princess on June 03, 2015, 08:28:30 am
Shame it's not an Australian layout. You could call it Bringamugalong  ;D ;)

 :bounce:  Bealman, that's a corker! :laugh:
 :hmmm: After mentioning 'that hat' maybe I shouldn't mention 'corks'! ;)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: gc4946 on June 03, 2015, 12:43:48 pm
Looking for ideas about street names, etc.

Biography of Chris Green on Wikipedia

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Green_(railway_manager)[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Green_(railway_manager))[/url]


I found his full name by accessing Who's Who online at work:

Christopher Edward Wastie Green; [son of] James Wastie Green and Margarita Mensing; [married] 1966, Waltraud Mitzie Petzold.
His Who's Who entry lists many past and present directorships as well as his managerial roles within the railway industry (too long to list here)



Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 04, 2015, 06:52:14 am
I remember the NSE Era very well and also agree that Chris Green was a superb manager. I hope your new layout will be all that you wish it to be, Tank, and look forward to the photos. as it develops.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: D1042 Western Princess on June 04, 2015, 07:08:04 am
One fact not widely known about Chris Green (but confirmed by him in Rail magazine) is that he went to university in Oxford in the 1960s (or early 1970s) and used to travel to London a lot. His train was often Western hauled and, like most who knew them, he came to love the Class  :claphappy:. If that doesn't confirm him as a GREAT manager I don't know what would.
When he moved to Virgin Trains on privatisation it was he who was the driving force behind using many of the Western names for the Virgin Voyager DMUs.
Virgin Warrior, Virgin Queen etc.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on December 19, 2015, 02:57:17 pm
After nearly 6 months I've taken FINALLY found the time to do the next step.  I bought some sheets of 10mm polystyrene, and cut them to width on my bandsaw.  Next, glued them into place and then the platform edges and ramps.

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The glue I used was Gorilla Glue.  Great for polystyrene, but it foams a lot!  So, I'll be spending some time cutting and removing some of this. ::) :)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 19, 2015, 03:00:28 pm
Very good to see some progress, Tank. I hope to complete my station platforms, next month, too.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on December 20, 2015, 11:10:55 am
Thanks Chris.  Good luck with yours.  :)  Someone suggested that I'm building my layout incorrectly, as I should lay the track first.   ???  I can't see that it matters.  After all, the railways are capable of laying track after the infrastructure has been built.....
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 20, 2015, 11:26:21 am
Thanks, Chris. I am very much looking forward to spending all of January railway modelling. As long as you, first, have an outside crank Class 08 on your (temporary) track testing train you should be OK with laying your platforms before permanently fixing down the track. Otherwise you may find you're suffering from the infamous Somersaulting Shunter Syndrome! 8-)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: G_N_E_R on December 20, 2015, 12:46:39 pm
Otherwise you may find you're suffering from the infamous Somersaulting Shunter Syndrome! 8-)
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: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: Thats genius Chris!

Thanks Chris.  Good luck with yours.  :)  Someone suggested that I'm building my layout incorrectly, as I should lay the track first.   ???  I can't see that it matters.  After all, the railways are capable of laying track after the infrastructure has been built.....

I'd say its usually cheaper to lay track first as it doesn't quite involve digging cuttings into pre-made scenery although a friend of mine really does do that!   I'm laying platforms first (with temporary track to test clearances) for my station before the final track gets laid to prevent any damage to the track. Sadly means running of trains will be slightly delayed >:(
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Bealman on December 20, 2015, 01:02:33 pm
Took a look at that photo in what was probably the middle of your night, and thought you were laying floorboards.

I can see the platform edges after your explanation.

Sorry! George  :D
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on December 24, 2015, 01:41:06 pm
As long as you, first, have an outside crank Class 08 on your (temporary) track testing train...

Yes, I have a fleet of 8 of them on standby (my favourite loco's)!  :D

Took a look at that photo in what was probably the middle of your night, and thought you were laying floorboards.

I'll take that as a compliment that they're straight!  LOL
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on December 24, 2015, 05:40:31 pm
We have a new toy at my work, a Laser Cutter.  A quick play on the 2D software and I managed to make some Waiting Rooms/Shelters for the layout.  I've made two designs, one with two entrances and one with four entrances.

Youtube video of the laser cutter at work.  :)  https://youtu.be/tIRkPG3yYlg


They are made from 1.5mm plywood, and glue together.
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Spares to make more in the future.
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First coat of red paint.
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After 3 coats of red paint, with glazing to be added.  Also, first coat of red on the benches and litter bins, and NSE red added to the ticket machines.
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The paints I had to buy from Phoenix, as Railmatch don't produce the paints for NSE livery any more.
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Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Zogbert Splod on December 24, 2015, 08:11:26 pm
I want one of those machines - no, wait, make that 'I NEED one of those machines'...  That makes my Zing look silly... Nice, yeah.....
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 24, 2015, 09:12:00 pm
Very nice work, Chris. Merry NSE Christmas!
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Newportnobby on December 24, 2015, 09:39:00 pm
Are you sure you're not making class 142s? :-X
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: G_N_E_R on December 25, 2015, 01:52:20 pm
 :laughabovepost: Brilliant, glad dapol are releasing them soon! The platform shelters look great Tank!
Merry Christmas to you all
Phil
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on January 07, 2016, 07:23:11 pm
Are you sure you're not making class 142s? :-X


Horrible things!  I travelled on those a few years ago......wow, almost went deaf!  LOL

Thanks everyone for the kind words.

A few more pictures showing some of the track being laid out, and special help from some Gronks and tins of food from the cupboards....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_33902.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=33902)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_33903.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=33903)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_33904.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=33904)


With the 3rd rail added.   :laugh3:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_33907.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=33907)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 07, 2016, 07:46:42 pm
Delighted to see three of your collection of Class 08s earning their living. Many thanks for the updates. I look forward to the next instalment. 8-)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: G_N_E_R on January 07, 2016, 08:53:40 pm
Evening Tank,
The third rail really looks fantastic! Could maybe run a Eurostar there.. :-X Good to see the cans from the garage making an appearance on the track laying stage of things :bounce: I look forward to updates, great work so far!
Phil
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Newportnobby on January 07, 2016, 09:41:55 pm
Immaculate straight lines, Tank :goggleeyes:
I knew you were sponsored by De Walt but Heinz too? ;)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: MrDobilina on April 19, 2016, 09:39:49 am



With the 3rd rail added.   :laugh3:
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Sorry, showing my ignorance here, but what is the third rail for? spares?
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Newportnobby on April 19, 2016, 09:49:39 am
Those arcy sparky multi coloured worms which run off third rail electricity supply by means of 'shoes' collecting current from the third rail. Mostly seen in the south of the UK.
Hope that hasn't baffled you further.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Bealman on April 19, 2016, 10:03:43 am
To add to that, it is a cosmetic addition in model railways.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on April 19, 2016, 10:08:47 am
As Newportnobby says, it's where they get their electrical supply from, rather than overhead cables.  We used to have overhead cables here, but they took them away in favour of 3rd rail in the 1930's.

No great update on the layout, although, I have painted all of the rails in sleeper grime by hand.  A loooong boring job. :scowl:  I thought I had a picture on my phone, but I don't.  :( 
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: MrDobilina on April 19, 2016, 10:27:48 am
Thanks guys, I grew up with Shenfield station in Essex as my primary station 5 platform + headshunt (think that's what it's called), and London Liverpool Street as my usual first stop  - guess I was a bit spoilt with fast dmus   :camera:

(http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/SME/html/NRE_SNF/images/plans/3070-0000002.jpg)

(http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/SME/html/NRE_LST/images/plans/2421-0000007.jpg)

If I had infinite space I'd happily do a point to point between these two.
Shenfield appears quite similar to your layout :) (see I did have a point there)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on June 03, 2016, 08:49:55 pm
It does look a little similar you're right.  I'll have my fast EMU's flying through here though!  :D
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on June 03, 2016, 08:53:48 pm
Here is some progress from this weeks efforts (well, efforts since mid April!).  Concrete ducting, and lots of ballasting!
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(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/2-020616170643.jpeg)


And tonight, some green paint that I 'borrowed' from work to seal the top and sides, and help the glue that I'll be using on the scenery in the future.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/2-030616204232.jpeg)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: G_N_E_R on June 05, 2016, 05:05:45 pm
Looking very smart! Thank you for the update,  :D :greatpicturessign:
Regards
Phil
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on July 17, 2016, 01:07:46 pm
I spent yesterday building bay platforms.  I put my back out yesterday which was causing incredible pain, and no sleep until 3am.  When I woke up after some cocodamol in the night, I was almost 100% better!  So, managed to go to work, and then worked on this some more today.  :)  I won't push it though!

First picture of the bay platforms, and the other two with some ballasting.  I'm waiting for some buffers to arrive before finishing the end of the bay platforms.  Perhaps with sand rather than ballast.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/2-170716130200.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/2-170716125931-42048785.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/2-170716125615-420381725.jpeg)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 17, 2016, 01:57:02 pm
I hope your back is better, Chris. Thanks for the update. The platforms are coming on well.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: port perran on July 17, 2016, 02:19:36 pm
Coming along very nicely.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Malc on July 17, 2016, 03:34:04 pm
Looking good, Chris. I take it you checked the clearances with an 08?
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on July 17, 2016, 04:12:56 pm
Thanks guys.  Slow progress, but coming along.  :)

@Malc (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497)  - Yes I've used seven Class 08's/09's to make sure, thanks.  Hopefully it's alright!  :D
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Bealman on July 17, 2016, 10:51:24 pm
Wondering why there's such a big gap berween the centre tracks.... is that to represent a track that has been removed?   :hmmm:
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Caz on July 18, 2016, 05:53:35 pm
Thanks guys.  Slow progress, but coming along.  :)

@Malc ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497[/url])  - Yes I've used seven Class 08's/09's to make sure, thanks.  Hopefully it's alright!  :D


If you use the Peco re-railer it has a platform spacing gauge built in and I found when I re-did Claywell's platforms it worked perfectly.  Just put the cut-outs over the rails and the high end of the re-railer even gives the clearance for curves.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on July 18, 2016, 06:24:19 pm
That's right Bealman, to represent the centre tracks that would have been used to transfer the loco to the other end of a train.  There are a number of stations around here like that, the closest being East Croydon.

Here is an update with most of the platform 'tarmac' down, and a quick placement of the buildings.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/2-180716134714.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=42087)

If you use the Peco re-railer it has a platform spacing gauge built in and I found when I re-did Claywell's platforms it worked perfectly.  Just put the cut-outs over the rails and the high end of the re-railer even gives the clearance for curves.


Good tip, thanks!  I wasn't sure if they were still accurate because of the 08's. 
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Skyline2uk on July 18, 2016, 07:08:46 pm
That's right Bealman, to represent the centre tracks that would have been used to transfer the loco to the other end of a train.  There are a number of stations around here like that, the closest being East Croydon.

Here is an update with most of the platform 'tarmac' down, and a quick placement of the buildings.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/2-180716134714.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=42087[/url])

If you use the Peco re-railer it has a platform spacing gauge built in and I found when I re-did Claywell's platforms it worked perfectly.  Just put the cut-outs over the rails and the high end of the re-railer even gives the clearance for curves.


Good tip, thanks!  I wasn't sure if they were still accurate because of the 08's.


That is a extremely impressive station mate.

Forgive me if this is answered previously, but is this to be a terminus or through station? I know there are smaller bays for the 121s etc, but are the rest for passing trade?

Got to say this is right up my street. If I had the space we would be doing a cross-country comparison of NSE main lines at this point....

Many pics as and when possible  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on July 18, 2016, 07:40:12 pm
This is a through station, with two fast platforms, two slow platforms, and the middle two to be used for whatever they're needed for!  A similar setup to what is on the Brighton Mainline.

Glad to hear that you like it.  :)  Always good to hear feedback, and will take plenty of pictures. :thumbsup: :thankyousign:
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: honestjudge on July 18, 2016, 08:25:56 pm
Looking really good :)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Greybeema on July 18, 2016, 11:32:33 pm
Reminds me a bit of Gatwick.  I was once (a long long time ago) allowed in the box to play with the trains..  Class 73 - Down Fast across to down slow through the station then back out to down fast.  Just because I could...
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: daveg on July 19, 2016, 06:06:49 am
Impressive stuff, Chris.

Look forward to your next set of pics.

Dave G
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on July 19, 2016, 08:48:14 am
Thanks folks.  :)

Reminds me a bit of Gatwick.  I was once (a long long time ago) allowed in the box to play with the trains..  Class 73 - Down Fast across to down slow through the station then back out to down fast.  Just because I could...

Very lucky!  I bet that put a big smile on your face.  :D  This will have the GatEx flying through as a regular visitor, as I already have a GatEx train ready to put on the tracks.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on July 24, 2016, 12:38:24 pm
This looks terrible, despite the work involved changing these buffers!  LOL

These are normal Peco buffers, but I sanded off the 'wooden blocks' on the cross beam, fitted and cut two Code 40 rails on each, then sanded again and first coat of paint (red to be done again). The sand is currently drying, so when it's dry I'll add some colour to make it look weathered.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/2-240716123352.jpeg)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: port perran on July 24, 2016, 12:55:38 pm
I think it looks fine. Especially when the sand has dried and its weathered down.
Don't forget that the camera will highlight any imperfections and, of course, we are all self critical of our own work.
Looks good to me though.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 24, 2016, 01:01:00 pm
I think it looks fine. Especially when the sand has dried and its weathered down.
Don't forget that the camera will highlight any imperfections and, of course, we are all self-critical of our own work.
Looks good to me, though.

I fully agree with Martin. At normal viewing distance it will look fine.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on July 24, 2016, 01:55:44 pm
Thanks gents.  I guess it's easy to be over critical of our own work!  :)  Once the sand is toned down it will certainly help.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 24, 2016, 02:21:21 pm
I've been recommended to use the following for colouring my ballast, Chris:

Citadel Shade - Agrax Earthshade (to dilute as a 'wash')
4.55

And their 'Nuln Oil' black! The 'Earthshade' is brown. In both cases, I was advised to experiment with dilution and multiple layers to darken/lighten the effect.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on July 24, 2016, 03:49:17 pm
Thanks Chris.  I'm trying out the washes from Humbrol.  Seem very good to me - just expensive.

Have had a go at weathering and am happy with it.  Would love to hear what other members think so far?  Will add some weeds and a bush next I think.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/2-240716154636.jpeg)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 24, 2016, 04:10:35 pm
Thanks Chris.  I'm trying out the washes from Humbrol.  Seem very good to me - just expensive.

Have had a go at weathering and am happy with it.  Would love to hear what other members think so far?  Will add some weeds and a bush next I think.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/2-240716154636.jpeg[/url])


Looks very good, Chris. Will be even better with those weeds and a small bush.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: port perran on July 24, 2016, 04:27:08 pm
Yes, weeds and small bushes will add to the feel.
How about a few oil deposits between the tracks ?
And a wavy bit of thin wire (with outer insulation painted dark) to represent some piping along the side of one of the tracks ?
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Dave Z on July 24, 2016, 09:56:59 pm
Looks fantastic.  Love those buffer stops.  Watching a thread like this really makes me feel like sticking all my rolling stock on eBay and splurging on a load of NSE stock myself :D
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Ditape on July 25, 2016, 12:43:42 am
It's coming on a treat a few weeds and you will have cracked it.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Greybeema on July 25, 2016, 09:56:42 am
Rather than Humbrol washes - why not make your own. 

Keep an eye out in Lidl and such like for cheap boxes of artists acrylics or watercolours.  Once thinned down with water they work as perfectly good and cheap washes. 

You could try the tiniest touch of soap in the mix to breakdown surface tension but do a quick test first to make sure the soap doesn't react with the ballast and turn the ballast green..
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on July 26, 2016, 11:05:20 am
Yes, weeds and small bushes will add to the feel.
How about a few oil deposits between the tracks ?
And a wavy bit of thin wire (with outer insulation painted dark) to represent some piping along the side of one of the tracks ?

Weeds will be plonked on today, and good idea about oil.  Amazon to the rescue....oil coloured paint on the way! :)  The wire is also good.

Looks fantastic.  Love those buffer stops.  Watching a thread like this really makes me feel like sticking all my rolling stock on eBay and splurging on a load of NSE stock myself :D

What a compliment!  Thank you so much. :thumbsup:  I can't wait to get my multiple units on there.....but not until it's almost complete.  :)

Rather than Humbrol washes - why not make your own. 

Keep an eye out in Lidl and such like for cheap boxes of artists acrylics or watercolours.  Once thinned down with water they work as perfectly good and cheap washes. 

You could try the tiniest touch of soap in the mix to breakdown surface tension but do a quick test first to make sure the soap doesn't react with the ballast and turn the ballast green..

A great idea, but I have two issues with this... one is the time.  I don't get the time to travel to a model/art shop, let alone do much to the layout.  15 minutes here and there - although I'm on annual leave this week, so taking advantage!  :D  Secondly, I'm colour blind, so all of the effort I'd make into creating a colour may look completely wrong to others!   ;D
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Bealman on July 26, 2016, 11:46:37 am
Ok... so all those toothpaste tubes you love are actually green and brown?  :D ;)
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Dave Z on March 30, 2017, 12:07:18 pm
Any update on this Tank?  It'd be nice to see some NSE inspiration for my layout!
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on March 30, 2017, 02:43:40 pm
Thanks for asking Dave.  Sadly I've had no time.  :(  I have bought lots of 'Really Useful Boxes' to organise and store various things in the loft, instead of balancing various things on top of each other!  :D  This should give me more room, and then I can perhaps find more time in the future to crack on with it.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Milton Rail on March 31, 2017, 09:32:23 am
Hope you find a bit of time, was enjoying catching up with this layout, the platforms were impressive as was the buffers you made up
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Dave Z on March 31, 2017, 09:49:11 am
It always amazes me how easily several months can slip by without making any progress.  Hence why I'm on a bit of an offensive now before other jobs pop up and distract me.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on March 31, 2017, 10:13:57 am
Hope you find a bit of time, was enjoying catching up with this layout, the platforms were impressive as was the buffers you made up

Thanks very much, always nice to hear.

It always amazes me how easily several months can slip by without making any progress.  Hence why I'm on a bit of an offensive now before other jobs pop up and distract me.

Yes, time really does fly away.  I still have a 5" gauge railway to finish before my boys get too big!  :D  ;)  Should be done this year (although I said that last summer)!
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: MrDobilina on March 31, 2017, 10:52:47 am
Yes, time really does fly away.  I still have a 5" gauge railway to finish before my boys get too big!  :D  ;)  Should be done this year (although I said that last summer)!

I'd love to see some photos of that, perhaps in a different thread of course!
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on March 31, 2017, 11:13:45 am
Here you go - http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=23651.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=23651.0)

I'm not sure if all of the pictures are still on the thread? :thumbsup:
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: weave on March 31, 2017, 02:06:29 pm
Hope you find a bit of time, was enjoying catching up with this layout, the platforms were impressive as was the buffers you made up

Agree with Andrew. All looking good. Hoping our interest will encourage some time finding time for you.

Looking forward to more when you can.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Tank on April 29, 2018, 12:34:52 pm
Nearly a year and I made some progress yesterday!  Whilst finding some time at work yesterday I decided to knock up another board/module for this layout.  It is equal length to the main board, but half the width at 500.


Cutting the frame and making Halving Joints.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/2-290418122529.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64747)

Frame made, glued and screwed to 5mm plywood top.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/2-290418122656.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64748)

Finished, but I just need to sand the sides slightly when dry.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/2-290418122842.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64749)


Track laying to start on Monday.  This will just have four lengths on it to mimic the Brighton Main Line.  Although, with some of the proposed NSE RTR stock having pantographs, I may have to put catenary on it eventually - as it used to have.

Hopefully I can push on with this!!!!
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 29, 2018, 01:09:05 pm
Very good to see progress, Chris.
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Milton Rail on April 29, 2018, 01:50:34 pm
Nice looking woodworking - I have the same saw stand, don't know how I lived with out it before!  I have not collapsed it in about 2 years!
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Train Waiting on April 29, 2018, 03:06:38 pm

Track laying to start on Monday.  This will just have four lengths on it to mimic the Brighton Main Line.  Although, with some of the proposed NSE RTR stock having pantographs, I may have to put catenary on it eventually - as it used to have.

Hopefully I can push on with this!!!!

The Southern adopting the ex-L&SWR third rail system probably appeared a good idea... at the time.  In retrospect, the LB&SCR system would, I think, have been a better (but more expensive) choice.  Maybe just me, but I believe 'The Brighton' didn't do as well out of the Grouping as the L&SWR and SE&CR.

By the way; that's a very nice baseboard.  Very nice indeed.

All good wishes.

John
Title: Re: St Christopher's Green
Post by: Newportnobby on April 29, 2018, 05:08:40 pm
A De Walt power tool in every picture :hmmm:
I hope you are getting some remuneration for promoting them ;)