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Title: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 17, 2014, 11:26:03 am
I'm a bit of a sucker for buying "spares and repair" locos off fleabay and fixing them up. Call me sad, but the sight of a broken, forlorn loco (or guitar/piece of furniture/aeroplane etc) just makes me want to grab it, take it home, give it love and TLC and restore it to former functional glory. I just find it hugely rewarding and therapeutic.

Most of the time I keep them because I get attached to them, and sometimes (if they don't fit with the era of my layout or SWMBO discovers them) I sell them on.

I was stripping down two such - a 7F and what will be a Riddles 07 Austerity in desert sand livery - thinking they were standard metal kits.

When I stripped the 7F I found that it had been scratch-built, with a fantastic level of skill and imagination, out of a bit of wood, some sort of rubber cork, some plasticard, lovingly carved filler and bits of wire.

The Riddles was made out of balsa, plasticard, sellotape and random bits of other loco.

Pics here:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/thumb_14044.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14044)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/thumb_14045.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14045)

Not much to look at now, but just you wait - they will look fabulous very soon.

What struck me - and the reason I have fallen rather in love with these locos - is the beautifully Heath Robinson way in which they were designed and constructed. It feels rather a privilege to uncover and appreciate how they were made, and to repair and restore such lovely hand-built things.


Now - this is a metal kit body (which I spent hours cutting, sanding and re-fitting those brass edges for! They still look ropey because I haven't sanded of the adhesive yet)) - my question is, is it a Hall class?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/thumb_14046.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14046)



Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hailstone on July 17, 2014, 06:10:05 pm
Yes, it is a Graham Farish Hall - they can be improved by fitting extras such as nbrass locos etched cab sides & lamp irons for the loco body and brake and scoop standards and fire irons for the tender even a Hawksworth tender body (requires an LMS tender frame) can be substituted for the existing one as the Graham Farish Hall is a modified hall and most if not all were built with these - the picture below shows my 2 which had just been upgraded with nbrass locos bogies (I am not part of nbrass locos, but a very satisfied customer)

(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

regards

Alex
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 18, 2014, 11:22:39 pm
Thanks Alex! :-)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bealman on July 19, 2014, 12:18:16 am
I think you are both geniouses? Genii? Anyway... how about wizards.

Top stuff!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 04, 2014, 11:30:34 am
Update on the 7F and a recently acquired Grafar pannier (WARNING: the following images show locomotives stripped of their paint and Fully Naked, and may be unsuitable for viewers of a nervous disposition).


I've made the cab for the 7F (plasticard and lots of swearing) - needs the rough edges sanding down, but it's getting there. That poor old Lima tender has had some vicious internal  Dremelling to get it to vaguely fit!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/thumb_14497.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14497)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/thumb_14498.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14498)


And now the nudity... :-[  I bought a spares/repair Grafar Pannier whose paintwork was so chipped and battered I decided to strip it right back and repaint. Unfortunately the good people of Grafar obviously used arc-welding as their preferred method of paint application and it's taken me about six coats of stripper to get down to this:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/thumb_14496.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14496)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/thumb_14495.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14495)

It was originally black, so I think I'm going to keep it that way - unless I come across any "interesting" pannier liveries on Google! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on August 04, 2014, 02:37:24 pm
Unfortunately the good people of Grafar obviously used arc-welding as their preferred method of paint application and it's taken me about six coats of stripper to get down to this:

Does anyone know what Farish originally used? Bachfarish clearly don't use the same now as paint comes off easy (sometimes too easy) - it would be good to know what Farish originally used as primer and or paint and how they applied it such that the finishes are so durable. Would use it on my repaints!!!

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on August 04, 2014, 03:24:26 pm
Does anyone know what Farish originally used? Bachfarish clearly don't use the same now as paint comes off easy (sometimes too easy) - it would be good to know what Farish originally used as primer and or paint and how they applied it such that the finishes are so durable. Would use it on my repaints!!!

Cheers,
Alan

Get on to one of the guys who used to work in Poole. I believe Matt Richter worked there.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Only Me on August 04, 2014, 03:28:26 pm
Probably 2-PAC :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on August 04, 2014, 03:47:24 pm
I'm a bit of a sucker for buying "spares and repair" locos off fleabay and fixing them up. Call me sad ...
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/thumb_14046.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14046[/url])


Not at all Ozymandias ... it's the same reason I love Poole built stock. You can acquire spares for them, repair them, bring them back to their former glory and then some. Great work!

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on August 04, 2014, 10:58:42 pm
Probably 2-PAC :D

You joke but I used to find the best thing for stripping Farish Poole paint was cellulose thinners! You might not be far off the mark there!

Love those scratch built locos, they are definitely in need of restoring back to their former glory. Good work with the Hall body too!  8)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hailstone on August 06, 2014, 04:44:04 pm
I used Nitromors on mine! (metal bodies only)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 06, 2014, 04:50:47 pm
As one who has made the mistake of using Nitromors and cellulose thinners on plastic bodies... :doh:

I've used Homebase own brand paint stripper on plastic and it doesn't seem to do it much harm (except clear plastic, which it will "frost").

I don't know if it's just not as strong as Nitromors or if it's a different chemical, but it seems to work without leaving a soggy molten glob of plastic where a loco used to be...!

If you try it, try it on an inconspicuous area first though - just in case.... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: greenlaneman on August 10, 2014, 04:16:25 pm
I use Mr Muscle oven cleaner to strip paint off plastic bodies.
Used it on a Farish span can that somebody had overpainted (badly) in black and it took off the black and some of the original Farish paint  - never done that before!!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 11, 2014, 12:20:55 pm
Quick progress report on some of the re-painting I've been doing...

The naked GWR Pannier and Hall Class are now clothed again! The Hall is going to be "Olton Hall", the loco used in the Harry Potter films - anything to get SWMBO interested... ;)

A bit of touching up, some decals and a final coat of satin varnish and they should look rather lovely.

The other bodies you can see are an old GM 161 101 that had been (very liberally!) painted in BR blue, but is now back to its Hungarian orange, and an old Atlas which had had about 6 coats of green and looked rather blobby!

Oh, and there's a Hawker Hurricane I made from one of the 1/144 Revell kits, which will sit on my airfield once the layout's done.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_14711.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14711)


I also stripped and fixed a badly scratched class 50 and a cracked Minitrix Warship - I was hoping to get away with not having to re-paint the 50's cab, but the colour difference is just too much. Ho hum. The Warship is awaiting her yellow nose...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_14712.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14712)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 12, 2014, 10:21:46 am
Bit more painting done - the Warship has her yellow nose (I did this freehand as I couldn't see another way to do it - not sure if I'm entirely happy with the result) :( Needs another coat, anyway.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_14728.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14728)


Olton Hall now has her footplate black and the diesels have their roof panels done - need a second coat of grey on the GM!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_14727.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14727)

I'm going to have to fabricate a battery box for the class 50 and the class 47 - has anyone ever done this and if so what did you use?!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on August 13, 2014, 07:16:45 am
Ozymandias

I believe BR Lines have class 47 battery boxes for Bachmann diesels. The don't have the clips to clip onto the Poole chassis but you could glue / tack it on somehow.

Send Bob an email, he might be able to help. There were a few battery boxes on ebay but they've just ended.

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: sawyerm1982 on August 13, 2014, 09:05:20 am
I too love buying older trains that need restoring, i have many farish class 101's that have been bought as none runners and fettled back into life,

the only project that is currently providing me with an issue is a Farish class 150 that was bought very cheap with a motor issue, the main gear that is in contact with the worm gear is stripped of its teeth, unfortunately bob at BRLINES has none of these gears in stock so im a bit stuck, it may have to become an unpowered dummy for now unless i can find another damaged unit or manage to find a gear somewhere else.

I totally agree with the OP though, there is something very satisfying in buying something that does not work, and fettling it up to run again, or making the paintwork nice again.

Also, in buying these models that need fettling and repairing them, just helps build up knowledge of how the models work and how they are assembled so that when they go wrong in the future you have half an idea on how to fix them.

Happy modelling

Mike
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: RussellH on August 13, 2014, 09:31:51 am
the only project that is currently providing me with an issue is a Farish class 150 that was bought very cheap with a motor issue, the main gear that is in contact with the worm gear is stripped of its teeth, unfortunately bob at BRLINES has none of these gears in stock so im a bit stuck, it may have to become an unpowered dummy for now unless i can find another damaged unit or manage to find a gear somewhere else.

Hi Mike

Try bachmann spares for your 150 gear - very good service.

Bachmann.Service@bachmann-europe.co.uk

Regards
Russ
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Tank on August 13, 2014, 09:05:23 pm
Great paint work, very neat.  :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 15, 2014, 10:20:25 am
Work on the Riddle, the 7F and the stripped Hall continues...

I've started the lining on the Hall. If pride is indeed a sin, this lining will have me burning in Satan's netherest fiery pit. :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_14851.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14851)


Fox Transfers' finest - lovely to work with:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_14852.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14852)


The Riddle and the 7F. I've primered them so it's easier to see any defects or bits that need more work - they look a little better "clothed"!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_14853.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14853)

The 7F is way too smooth - out with the rivet decals!!

Would love to know what you all think!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: scotsoft on August 15, 2014, 10:58:28 am
You have every right to be proud, there are some very tricky parts to get the lining into and you have done that brilliantly, you must have a very steady hand  :admiration:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 15, 2014, 11:14:40 am
You have every right to be proud, there are some very tricky parts to get the lining into and you have done that brilliantly, you must have a very steady hand  :admiration:

cheers John.

Many thanks, John! Years of mucking about model-making and doing calligraphy finally pay off...! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on August 15, 2014, 11:34:26 am
Ozzy

I can only say your work is an inspiration. I really enjoy reading about people's work, especially when they include pictures and updates as they progress.

I've never stripped a body and repainted it but reading about your work makes me want to.

Thanks for sharing it with us, and yes, I think it's fantastic!

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on August 15, 2014, 12:09:50 pm

I've never stripped a body and repainted it
Dan

I'm sure if Goldfinger can do it, you can, Dan :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Caz on August 15, 2014, 02:02:06 pm
Would love Dapol to do a Harry Potter livery version of their Hall, I can dream can't I  :)    Mind you if you get fed up with your one, I know a good home for it.   ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 15, 2014, 02:17:15 pm
Would love Dapol to do a Harry Potter livery version of their Hall, I can dream can't I  :)    Mind you if you get fed up with your one, I know a good home for it.   ;)

Well, Caz... I did originally buy this as a project to do up and sell on, as I already have a Hall... So unless I fall completely in love with it (this is not impossible!), it might yet be for sale!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 03, 2014, 11:44:56 am
The Riddle and the 7F begin to look a bit more like locomotives... pics also show a kit B12 that I've made a hand-rail for - quite pleased with the results so far!:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15477.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15477)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15478.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15478)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15479.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15479)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15480.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15480)


More on the "Harry Potter" Olton Hall shortly....
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Only Me on September 03, 2014, 11:50:44 am
Looking very good.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 09, 2014, 10:43:46 am
More of my ever-growing list of projects!

I bought this sadly-mistreated Sir Nigel, spares/repair, off ebay. Poor Sir Nigel has obviously had a face-first encounter with the floor at some point - this is his nose glued back together. It'll need some filler...!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15697.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15697)


And from the inside:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15698.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15698)



It's incredibly grubby - it's a total respray job, I think...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15696.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15696)


...and judging by the state of the innards and valve gear, has never been serviced (the left-hand set of wheels has been cleaned):

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15699.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15699)


The traction tyres seem to have been  glued on - they were a pain to get off and had gone absolutely solid!

Cleaning the wheels has removed the red paint - anyone know the official colour of the originals?



The paint shop:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15700.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15700)



The "Harry Potter Hall" is coming on nicely - I've made some cabside number plates out of brass offcuts, I'll fit these soon. I'm very pleased with the lining!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15701.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15701)



Two panniers. The foremost has been stripped, repainted and had new decals. Just needs a funnel top and a varnish.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15702.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15702)



Another spares/repair purchase - again, I stripped the very blobby paintwork off this Southern tank and have repainted. A touch-up, a coat of gloss varnish, some lining out and she'll be good as new.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15703.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15703)


Hope you like them! :)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: scotsoft on September 09, 2014, 10:48:55 am
Having seen its condition when you bought it and seeing the results you have produced with you S&R locos already, I am really looking forward to seeing your progress on the Sir Nigel  :thumbsup:

 :NGaugersRule:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on September 09, 2014, 04:46:45 pm
Some very good paint jobs there :thumbsup:
Being of a certain age, I'm pondering bringing myself to you for a respray :-[
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 09, 2014, 05:09:20 pm
Nobby, I am very flattered, thank you! :)

Truth be told, I'm still a bit of a beginner at loco painting - experience of doing aeroplane modelling helps, but locos need a much smoother finish than your average 1/72 Lancaster or Spitfire!

I think I'm getting there, though - just need to, ahem, brush up on my airbrush skills.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 10, 2014, 09:42:10 am
"My candle burns at both its ends, it will not last the night.
But oh my foes and oh my friends, it gives a lovely light
."


I sat up late into the night doing the lettering and numbering on the "Harry Potter Hall" - very fiddly, especially the numbering on the (hand-made!) cabside number plates - every letter/number done individually!

Pretty pleased with the results, though:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15719.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15719)



There's a bit of silvering on the number plate here - if it doesn't settle with Microsol I'll strip it and use gloss rather than satin black:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15720.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15720)


Smokebox:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15721.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15721)



I'm now going for a lie-down to try and un-cross my eyes after all that close-up work! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 11, 2014, 10:34:29 am
Nigel's New Nose!

I've glued and now Milliputted the nose of the Gresley. Once it's dry I'll give it a coat of primer and gloss varnish then replace the rivets with rivet decals.

From the front:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15748.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15748)


Inside:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15749.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15749)




Other projects on the go: the Riddle O7 tender now painted and complete with undercarriage bars, the "Harry Potter Hall" looking resplendent, the Southern tank gloss varnished and waiting for lining out/decals and a metal kit Class 50 with shiny new brass buffers.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_15750.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15750)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on September 11, 2014, 11:39:14 am
You must have built in microscopes instead of eyes how on earth do you do the numbers and name plates ??
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 11, 2014, 11:50:44 am
Ha! Thanks Bob! :) 

I do the letters/numbers individually with a very fine pair of tweezers - and I take my glasses off/lenses out and squint! ;)

I made the number plates from etched brass sprue from an old white metal kit - cut to size with wire snips and then filed to shape with an emery board (whilst being held in tweezers - this is fiddly!!)

I do have a magnifying lamp for really close work, but being short-sighted my close-up vision is still pretty good, thankfully.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on September 11, 2014, 12:24:38 pm
I will have to make a list of the name plates for my shunters and signs for my Safari park such as Wolves. Bears  Buffalo Cougars Elk etc only joking I am waiting for my son to do those .But if you could do one for my Shunter which I'm naming after my grandson ALFIE I would pay you for it,
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 17, 2014, 10:24:34 am
I don't mind admitting that I'm a bit pleased with the lining out on this B1 kit...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/thumb_16046.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16046)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on September 17, 2014, 10:55:49 am
I reckon your signature sums it up :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 17, 2014, 11:02:03 am
I reckon your signature sums it up :thumbsup:

It's that bad, Nobby..?! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 23, 2014, 09:41:49 am
Well, here she is - the completed "Harry Potter Hall"! Hall Class 5972 "Olton Hall" in fictitious GWR red - very pleased with the end result.

She's now going on ebay - I need to fund this N Gauge addiction somehow!!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/thumb_16480.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16480)


Close up of the lettering and the lining:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/thumb_16481.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16481)


I like the colour, although it does make the official buffer beam red look a bit pink. I may have to do another one... ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/thumb_16482.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16482)

Would love to know what people think.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on September 23, 2014, 09:49:32 am
Speechless Oz, speechless! You're an inspiration and you might, just might, get me away from the gubbins and onto bodies.

This thread is a great resource and positive addition to the forum if I might add.

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 23, 2014, 09:52:34 am
Dan, I'm blushing.... you are very kind, thank you! :-)  :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on September 23, 2014, 09:54:04 am
Excellent work, with very crisp paint job :thumbsup:
Shame it needs to be sold, though :(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 23, 2014, 10:04:42 am

Shame it needs to be sold, though :(

Perfect excuse... to make another one!!! ;)

I've really enjoyed doing this one - if I get hold of another Hall chassis, who knows...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on September 23, 2014, 10:10:18 am
Often there are boxes of scrap bodies ( usually diesels which need glazing and perhaps without a buffer beam) on fleabay - a box of those would give you a few years of work.

Most people don't bid on them because they wouldn't know where to start. Would be perfect for you.

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Only Me on September 23, 2014, 10:11:15 am
Dr Al has a load on Ebay at the moment ....
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 23, 2014, 10:17:02 am
Very neat crisp lining there - you will be the envy of many.

A little finishing touch would be to paint the pickup strips between the wheels black  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 23, 2014, 10:19:00 am
I've got a Class 50, a B1, a B12, a Prairie, a 7F and a series of in-bits Fleischmanns on the conveyor belt at the moment... but I can always be tempted with more to do! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on September 23, 2014, 10:27:20 am
I've spotted her on fleabay Oz! Sure she'll do well.

Yup, if the scrap goes cheap enough then bag it! You can always put it away for a rainy day and I suspect that the more you get into this, the quicker (without loss to quality) you'll get at it, perhaps having a few on the go at the time.

Now, what are you going to call your studio? Mandias Models? OzWorks?

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: David Asquith on September 23, 2014, 10:30:44 am
The Hall looks absolutely brilliant.  Love it.  I do like red loco's though!!!

Dave
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 23, 2014, 10:48:06 am

Now, what are you going to call your studio? Mandias Models? OzWorks?

Dan

Ha! Thanks Dan! :) How about "The Despair Depot"...? ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on September 23, 2014, 11:31:19 am

Now, what are you going to call your studio? Mandias Models? OzWorks?

Dan

Ha! Thanks Dan! :) How about "The Despair Depot"...? ;)

Yeah - sounds good! She's up to GBP10.50 already! This one could be a ripper and ripe for the "ebay madness strikes again thread" (in the best possible taste of course).

"Bodies only" go for silly amounts on ebay - you could always turn scrap into something very desirable. I was just thinking that you said you would like to do another one if you cold get hold of the chassis. The diesel market for bodies is very helpful.

If you had some fancy little plastic packets / boxes to put them in I'd say you might, just might, get people paying silly money for these things. I'm not suggesting that's your aim or intention and I can see it's all about the enjoyment, but hey oh, why not give it a go if you fancy it, a kind of side project.

You could build up a name for yourself within the n community!

Top respect to you Oz! Just look at the number of views you've had! Us bore's get nowhere near that amount of views sparring about re-wiring of armatures!

People are really interested in what you are doing.

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 23, 2014, 11:46:34 am
Thanks Dan! :)

I really like this forum - everyone's so helpful and positive.

Once I've cleared my workbench a bit, I was thinking of doing a Pannier Tank and a Prairie in London Transport livery - so watch this space!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on September 23, 2014, 11:50:33 am
Don't forget us diseasel infected lot!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 23, 2014, 11:56:29 am
Don't forget us diseasel infected lot!

Well if I can find a chassis I've got a metal Class 52 kit body I was going to do in Desert Sand livery... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on September 23, 2014, 01:04:48 pm
Don't forget that shows (even local ones) are a great place to pick up bodies much cheaper than on ebay. Rummage around the scrap boxes and you'll find something interesting. Anoraks Anonymous had some interesting stuff at TINGS. Even Bachmann weren't bad - I picked up a DRS class 20 body for 4 quid (knocked down from a fiver due to one buffer missing) and a Poole Class 47 Virgin "Graham Farish" for 3 quid (knocked down from a fiver due two missing buffers).

Be a bit cheeky and ask "how much do you want for this" but obviously don't extract the proverbial.

I reckon you'll get scrap (chipped, scratched etc.) bodies for a quid or two! I picked up a Class 55 "Alycidon" body from Anoraks for 3.50!

Ah, was just thinking, and it's only a suggestion, obviously you take it in the direction you wish, but if you go down the "body only" route then you could keep a chassis of every type, just for fine tuning the fitting, to make sure it looks right etc. etc. and then specialise in the bodies. If you want to sell complete locos (chassis and body) then obviously you're going to have to be on the hunt for chassis aswell and will be competing with the "spares merchants" who bid on the chassis purely to cannibalise them as spares.

Just my thoughts Oz, nothing more!

Cheers Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 23, 2014, 01:15:39 pm
I hadn't thought about doing bodies only - do you think there would be a demand?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on September 23, 2014, 01:45:02 pm
I personally think that at the level you are up to, yes , there is a demand. It would be interesting to hear what others think, since I'm only but one voice.

The reason I was coming at it from the "body only" angle was because that seems to be your speciality, both in terms of what you enjoy and what you create / add value.

For example, you pick up a body for 3-5 quid. It sells for 15 quid. You've really added value there, to the tune of 200-400%.

Now, let's say you do the above but also add a chassis. Let's say the chassis costs you 25 quid (judging by ebay). You sell the body and chassis combo and it goes for 50 quid. Your component costs (body and chassis) are 30 quid (5 + 25), and your sale price is 50 quid. Total return is 66%.

Do you see what I'm getting at, your value is in creating fantastic bodies. You're not creating value by sticking a chassis underneath it, you're merely transferring an asset.

Sorry it's all in monetary terms above. I only put it in that context to show you where your value lies. Now, like I said before, you might not actually care about that and you might take pride in selling complete locos - nothing wrong with that either.

It's funny how stuff goes on ebay. 1+1 doesn't equal 2 on that website! You'll see people splitting bodies from chassis and selling them separately. Why you might ask? The reason is because a body and chassis will sell for more INDIVIDUALLY than as one piece. Crazy I know, and I personally am not a fan of it, but that's the market.

There's a guy on ebay - Scotsman something is his username who knocks out chassis on a weekly basis. Every now and then, he'll list a load of bodies. You'll more often than not see the chassis sold separately because he knows he can get more for them on their own. It's a strange logic, but that's ebay. People bid in strange ways!

Again, at the end of the day it's a hobby and you pursue it in the way that best suits you. Not trying to dress it up in purely monetary terms, just trying to explain the "madness of ebay".

Cheers

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 23, 2014, 01:56:35 pm
I personally think that at the level you are up to, yes , there is a demand. It would be interesting to hear what others think, since I'm only but one voice.

The reason I was coming at it from the "body only" angle was because that seems to be your speciality, both in terms of what you enjoy and what you create / add value.

For example, you pick up a body for 3-5 quid. It sells for 15 quid. You've really added value there, to the tune of 200-400%.

Now, let's say you do the above but also add a chassis. Let's say the chassis costs you 25 quid (judging by ebay). You sell the body and chassis combo and it goes for 50 quid. Your component costs (body and chassis) are 30 quid (5 + 25), and your sale price is 50 quid. Total return is 66%.

Do you see what I'm getting at, your value is in creating fantastic bodies. You're not creating value by sticking a chassis underneath it, you're merely transferring an asset.

Sorry it's all in monetary terms above. I only put it in that context to show you where your value lies. Now, like I said before, you might not actually care about that and you might take pride in selling complete locos - nothing wrong with that either.

It's funny how stuff goes on ebay. 1+1 doesn't equal 2 on that website! You'll see people splitting bodies from chassis and selling them separately. Why you might ask? The reason is because a body and chassis will sell for more INDIVIDUALLY than as one piece. Crazy I know, and I personally am not a fan of it, but that's the market.

There's a guy on ebay - Scotsman something is his username who knocks out chassis on a weekly basis. Every now and then, he'll list a load of bodies. You'll more often than not see the chassis sold separately because he knows he can get more for them on their own. It's a strange logic, but that's ebay. People bid in strange ways!

Again, at the end of the day it's a hobby and you pursue it in the way that best suits you. Not trying to dress it up in purely monetary terms, just trying to explain the "madness of ebay".

Cheers

Dan

These are really good points, Dan - definitely food for thought, thanks! :)

Gideon
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on September 23, 2014, 02:09:12 pm
Definitely food for thought (I'm one of the ones bidding on the Hall btw ;) ). I've got a few Farish Halls of the older variety and I'd certainly consider paying for a body to be repainted like that or buying a ready done replacement body for one of them. I've also got various spare body shells of things, as I'm certain other NGFers have. Maybe do a system where you take part payment in body shells ? :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 23, 2014, 02:18:14 pm
Definitely food for thought (I'm one of the ones bidding on the Hall btw ;) ). I've got a few Farish Halls of the older variety and I'd certainly consider paying for a body to be repainted like that or buying a ready done replacement body for one of them. I've also got various spare body shells of things, as I'm certain other NGFers have. Maybe do a system where you take part payment in body shells ? :)

Good luck with the bid, Zwilnik! It's pleasing to know that you've seen the Hall's development on this thread and know the work that's gone into it! :)

I have got a couple more Hall bodies - older ones from the spam can motor days, but I think they fit the modern chassis too. If you've got any ideas/requests for liveries, let me know and I'll see what I can do...! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 23, 2014, 06:38:01 pm
I have got a couple more Hall bodies - older ones from the spam can motor days, but I think they fit the modern chassis too.

Yes, they'll fit the more recent Poole chassis  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 24, 2014, 09:25:21 am
Don't forget us diseasel infected lot!


As if I would, DesertHound...

Here's a class 50 that just needs some smartening up of the glue marks around the nameplate and another coat of satin... (another for sale, this, if anyone's interested!)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/thumb_16545.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16545)


Another steamie getting a revamp - this Southern tank had the most hideously blobby paint job when I got it - it looked like it had been applied by soap dispenser. Re-painted and one side complete with new decals and lining:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/thumb_16546.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16546)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on September 24, 2014, 01:01:07 pm
I certainly agree that there's a market for bodies only. If it's something that will readily fit on an available chassis for us beginners then it's a great way of adding something unique to your loco stud.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on September 24, 2014, 03:57:04 pm
Yet more good stuff Oz! Is that an Edward Elgar class 50 in the first pic?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 24, 2014, 04:11:54 pm
Yet more good stuff Oz! Is that an Edward Elgar class 50 in the first pic?

Er, I think so, Dan...! I don't know much about diesels, so I googled a green livery for a class 50  ('cos I had some green paint!) - I had the "Revenge" nameplate already, so I used that and the 50020 running number.

Someone will probably point out that this loco never appeared in this livery (I think it should be blue) but it's still rather nice and I'm pleading Rule One....

It's a metal kit body on a very solid chassis, so it'll pull like... well, a train, as well! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on September 24, 2014, 04:28:51 pm
Well it looks good so don't get too caught up in it being prototypically correct. You can hone your skills and then go down the realism route if you want. Whatever takes your fancy.

Is it a Farish chassis or something else? A pic of the offending chassis will confirm to me if it's a Farish or not. If it's not, I'm sure others will know what make it is.

Dan

PS: When you say "smartening up of the glue marks around the nameplates", what does that mean? Do you mean removing of the glue marks (and if so what product would remove the glue but not the paint) or does it mean "blending them in" somehow? Genuinely interested in your methods.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 24, 2014, 04:31:27 pm
Is it a Farish chassis or something else?

Defo not Farish, nor is the body, but the best execution of an old whitemetal class 50 kit I've ever seen...  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 24, 2014, 04:42:44 pm
Is it a Farish chassis or something else?

Defo not Farish, nor is the body, but the best execution of an old whitemetal class 50 kit I've ever seen...  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Alan

I have a feeling it's an Atlas chassis - and the body is an old English make - I'll check both tonight and let you know!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 24, 2014, 04:50:08 pm
Well it looks good so don't get too caught up in it being prototypically correct. You can hone your skills and then go down the realism route if you want. Whatever takes your fancy.

Is it a Farish chassis or something else? A pic of the offending chassis will confirm to me if it's a Farish or not. If it's not, I'm sure others will know what make it is.

Dan

PS: When you say "smartening up of the glue marks around the nameplates", what does that mean? Do you mean removing of the glue marks (and if so what product would remove the glue but not the paint) or does it mean "blending them in" somehow? Genuinely interested in your methods.

Dan, where I've glued the plates on I've been a bit over enthusiastic with the CA adhesive and it's seeped out around the sides, making the paint bubble a little. Efforts to scrape it away threatened to ruin my spray job, and I don' t want to have to re-do those decals!

So, I've left it to dry, and tonight I'll set about it with some VERY fine wet and dry paper (1500 grit, moistened), which in theory should smooth it out without taking the paint completely away,

This will leave a finely sanded area which (again, in theory) should become invisible once I apply a second coat of satin spray varnish. I didn't really want to do this on top of the plates because it looked fine with one coat, but ho hum!

Side point: from now on I'm going to use only Humbrol spray varnish, both acrylic and enamel - other brands I've tried are way too thick and gloopy and drip/run like crazy!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 24, 2014, 05:00:24 pm
Dan, where I've glued the plates on I've been a bit over enthusiastic with the CA adhesive and it's seeped out around the sides, making the paint bubble a little. Efforts to scrape it away threatened to ruin my spray job, and I don' t want to have to re-do those decals!

When attaching etched plates - tip - place masking tape around the area where the plate is to be located before applying either the plate or adhesive - this will stop the area round the plate being damaged, and can also assist in positioning of the plate.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 24, 2014, 05:06:57 pm


When attaching etched plates - tip - place masking tape around the area where the plate is to be located before applying either the plate or adhesive - this will stop the area round the plate being damaged, and can also assist in positioning of the plate.

Cheers,
Alan

Thanks Alan - lesson learned, I'll do this next time!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: msr on September 24, 2014, 05:24:51 pm
I have a Class 50 like that which I made back in 1971. It has a body by Anbrico Scale Models of Pudsey (Yorkshire) and was originally mounted on a Bachmann Spectrum GP40 chassis. However, having replaced this a few years ago with a chassis from the Life-Like GE Dash 8-40 it is now a superb runner and very powerful as well as very heavy, just right for hauling my track cleaning wagon around the layout.

Mike
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 24, 2014, 05:27:50 pm
I have a Class 50 like that which I made back in 1971. It has a body by Anbrico Scale Models of Pudsey (Yorkshire) and was originally mounted on a Bachmann Spectrum GP40 chassis. However, having replaced this a few years ago with a chassis from the Life-Like GE Dash 8-40 it is now a superb runner and very powerful as well as very heavy, just right for hauling my track cleaning wagon around the layout.

Mike

That's the one - it's an Anbrico kit. I had no idea it was that vintage!! Thanks Mike!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 25, 2014, 10:05:47 am
I had a look at the chassis of that class 50 last night - it is indeed an Atlas. It's powerful and heavy, so this loco should be able to pull a big train!

I'm glad to say that my sanding/re-varnishing idea worked for the glue marks around the nameplate - it looks just about perfect now! :)

Pics will follow...

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 26, 2014, 09:42:34 am
Here's the sanded and re-varnished Class 50 - glue marks all but gone:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/thumb_16568.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16568)

I'm going to see if there's enough room to fit some glazing in - I think that would really finish this model off a treat.


More (not quite finished yet) lining out on the B1 and the B12 - the red lining on the B1's footplate really brings it to life:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/thumb_16569.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16569)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on September 26, 2014, 10:12:13 am
You are fast becoming a master of lining :admiration:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on September 26, 2014, 10:49:30 am
Hi you say put glazing into the 50 if there's room ,you could alway use Glue N Glaze from Deluxe Materials it does a reasonable job practice first on an old body if you muck it up its water based so you can wash it out and start again I have used this and although not a perfect job I am happy with my results.
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: msr on September 26, 2014, 11:09:11 am
I mentioned my own model earlier and here it is, with glazing applied as Bob suggested. The appearance in reality is not so opaque - it is the angle of the light which makes it look somewhat milky! The cab side windows are closer to how it looks in practice.

Mike

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/thumb_16570.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16570)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 26, 2014, 11:40:13 am
msr, do you have a layout thread? That's one impressive station....would be interested to see more  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on September 26, 2014, 11:41:21 am
I aggree with MSR it must be the light that's making the front screen look milky if you look at the back end of the loco you can see the cabside windows are much clearer , maybe the front screen MIGHT have been applied a wee bit thicker it is an acquired skill.
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 26, 2014, 12:14:00 pm
Thanks for the advice, guys - Glue N Glaze duly ordered. I'll let you know how I get on! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on September 26, 2014, 01:59:38 pm
msr, do you have a layout thread? That's one impressive station....would be interested to see more  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Alan


Hi Alan,

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=23310.msg245176#msg245176 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=23310.msg245176#msg245176)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on September 28, 2014, 01:37:25 pm
Oz

Another Hall Class body (and tender) on ebay for you to re-dress! Item number 271620224639.

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on September 28, 2014, 10:34:53 pm
Oz

Just noticed that your Olton Hall is ending on Tuesday at 10ish in the morning. I've not sold anything on ebay but I am a buyer and generally the best prices are achieved when items end on Sundays between, say 7-9pm.

I know it's not all money money money but if everyone else is at it, you might aswell get your fair dues. Also, as you said, it's going towards the funding of a fantastic project!

Wouldn't bother changing the timing of this auction but just thought you might like to know for future listings on ebay.

Cheers

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 29, 2014, 09:42:24 am
Oz

Just noticed that your Olton Hall is ending on Tuesday at 10ish in the morning. I've not sold anything on ebay but I am a buyer and generally the best prices are achieved when items end on Sundays between, say 7-9pm.

I know it's not all money money money but if everyone else is at it, you might aswell get your fair dues. Also, as you said, it's going towards the funding of a fantastic project!

Wouldn't bother changing the timing of this auction but just thought you might like to know for future listings on ebay.

Cheers

Dan

Thanks Dan, this is good advice! Will bear in mind for future auctions!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 29, 2014, 09:52:10 am
Oz

Another Hall Class body (and tender) on ebay for you to re-dress! Item number 271620224639.

Dan

Oooh! Thanks for the heads-up, Dan! :) I feel another Harry Potter coming on.... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on September 30, 2014, 10:06:12 am
wow, pretty frenetic bidding at the end there :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 30, 2014, 10:09:35 am
wow, pretty frenetic bidding at the end there :)

Just a bit!! I'm delighted you won, Zwilnik, and I hope you really enjoy her! :) She'll be winging her way to you ( in a LOT of bubble wrap!) today.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on September 30, 2014, 10:28:42 am
What a price!!! You certainly did well there Oz. Beat my expectations price-wise by multiples. It's credit to your work (and Harry Potter!)

As an aside, I collect banknotes - a famous banknote shop in London sells "joke" Harry Potter money. Whenever I'm in there, he's inundated with Potter fans coming in to buy the money - more so than serious collectors of the real stuff!

You might find knocking out Harry Potter locos is very profitable Oz. Don't forget us non-wizardly folk though :)

Well done!

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 30, 2014, 10:35:43 am
What a price!!! You certainly did well there Oz. Beat my expectations price-wise by multiples. It's credit to your work (and Harry Potter!)

As an aside, I collect banknotes - a famous banknote shop in London sells "joke" Harry Potter money. Whenever I'm in there, he's inundated with Potter fans coming in to buy the money - more so than serious collectors of the real stuff!

You might find knocking out Harry Potter locos is very profitable Oz. Don't forget us non-wizardly folk though :)

Well done!

Dan

Thanks Dan! :) Fear not, I have some non-magical locos on the way, both steam and diesel...

I had no idea the "Harry Potter" Hall would be so popular - I loved making it, so I'm very tempted to do another.

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on September 30, 2014, 10:42:53 am
It's really encouraging that it went for that amount isn't it? It's good news for your endeavour and I'm happy for you.

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on September 30, 2014, 10:44:56 am
How about a maroon MK1 support coach with this............

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/39/thumb_16756.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16756)

spotted on a run to Carlisle in amongst other WCRC carriages :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 30, 2014, 11:03:36 am
How about a maroon MK1 support coach with this............

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/39/thumb_16756.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16756[/url])

spotted on a run to Carlisle in amongst other WCRC carriages :D


OK, Nobby - I'll see what I can do! :) Can I use the pic you've posted to form a decal?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on September 30, 2014, 02:35:25 pm
Hmmm - by all means use the pic but I'm not sure about copyright on the design itself :hmmm:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Wingman mothergoose on September 30, 2014, 02:41:40 pm
If you send an owl to Dumbledore I'm sure he will let you use the school logo!

Chris
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on September 30, 2014, 03:53:59 pm
Having worked on the first Harry Potter game, I can tell you J.K Rowling is very protective of her IP (justifiably of course). I don't think you'd be in trouble for your own layouts, the same as if you were to make yourself a Thomas the Tank Engine etc. But if it's being publicly displayed or in a magazine article at some point I'd watch out for rehabilitated Death Eaters who now work in the trademark office.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 30, 2014, 04:26:38 pm
Having worked on the first Harry Potter game, I can tell you J.K Rowling is very protective of her IP (justifiably of course). I don't think you'd be in trouble for your own layouts, the same as if you were to make yourself a Thomas the Tank Engine etc. But if it's being publicly displayed or in a magazine article at some point I'd watch out for rehabilitated Death Eaters who now work in the trademark office.

Thanks Zwilnik - you're absolutely right, and it's only fair that JK Rowling (and the trademark office Death Eaters!) should want to protect that copyright. This is why I made the loco "GWR 5972 Olton Hall, as featured in..." rather than "Harry Potter's Hogwarts Express"... it's a representation of a real loco, without any HP designs or imagery - so hopefully that's fair enough.

I'm not looking to make a commercial venture out of this - I'm just someone who enjoys restoring small locos of an evening once the kids have gone to bed! :)

I don't think I'll make any "branded" coaches - but another Olton Hall is very tempting! :)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on October 01, 2014, 12:30:32 pm
Olton Hall safely running on the Ivebridge main line :) Looks great!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/39/thumb_16779.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16779)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 01, 2014, 12:43:13 pm
Olton Hall safely running on the Ivebridge main line :) Looks great!

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/39/thumb_16779.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16779[/url])


Yay!  :thumbsup: Delighted she arrived safely.

The scenery on your layout is fabulous!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on October 02, 2014, 03:29:40 pm
I decided to take a shot at the Facebook N Gauge Group's pic of the month with this shot of Orton Hall on the turntable :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/39/thumb_16813.png) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16813)



Please vote :)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/5486188802/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/5486188802/)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on October 02, 2014, 03:33:56 pm
Looks like she went to a good home Zwilnik! I love the three levels you have - makes for quite dramatic pictures.

Is that carriage lighting I can see in your chocolate & cream?

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on October 02, 2014, 03:36:15 pm
Looks like she went to a good home Zwilnik! I love the three levels you have - makes for quite dramatic pictures.

Is that carriage lighting I can see in your chocolate & cream?

Dan

Thanks Dan,

yup, I managed to pick up the Dapol lighting bars fairly cheap. They're somewhat flakey though, probably just the contacts in the wheels.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 02, 2014, 03:45:08 pm
I decided to take a shot at the Facebook N Gauge Group's pic of the month with this shot of Orton Hall on the turntable :)

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/39/thumb_16813.png[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16813[/url])



Please vote :)

[url]https://www.facebook.com/groups/5486188802/[/url] ([url]https://www.facebook.com/groups/5486188802/[/url])


I know I'm biased, but that is lovely!! Gets my vote!!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on October 02, 2014, 03:47:21 pm
"I know I'm biased, but that is lovely!! Gets my vote!!"



I couldn't possibly think why that would be Ozymandias!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 09, 2014, 11:25:46 am
A few more developments on other projects, as I had my camera phone to hand last night...

Lined out B12 looking rather lovely - needs a final smooth varnish...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/39/thumb_17066.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17066)


A Prairie being re-liveried to LT colours. I know the original was L150, but Radley's don't do that decal and I'm lazy... ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/39/thumb_17065.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17065)


B1 and B12 side by side...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/thumb_16569.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=16569)


Glazing done on the Class 50. I did try using GLue and Glaze (great stuff!) but the front window apertures are just a bit too big. So the G'n'G was put to good use as an acetate adhesive...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/39/thumb_17069.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17069)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/39/thumb_17070.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17070)



More from the paint room... a 4MT stripped and re-painted in BR green, the Riddle getting more sandy and... what's this? Another "Harry Potter" Hall in production? Could be...! ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/39/thumb_17068.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17068)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on October 09, 2014, 07:38:26 pm
The Maestro's at it again!

... Gents (& Ladies), remember where you saw it first!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bealman on October 10, 2014, 06:59:04 am
Lovely work.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 10, 2014, 09:09:56 am
Awww, cheers guys!  :) *blushes*
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Tank on October 10, 2014, 12:15:31 pm
Very good lining. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 13, 2014, 02:41:33 pm
One for the non-steamie amongst you...!  ;)


This was a very rough-looking/running blue Hermes Warship. It's now a rather lovely red/maroon D809 "Champion" Warship that runs really well.. A total strip down, re-spray and re-decal.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/39/thumb_17302.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17302)



Rather proud of the numbering - took ages to get it straight! And the metal nameplates really set it off:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/39/thumb_17303.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17303)


Another one for ebay, sadly - I need to offset some layout costs - but it has been a lovely project!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on October 13, 2014, 09:32:06 pm
Nice restoration - lots of rough Minitrix out there, which are mechanically fine but cosmetically worn - nice to see one brought back from the brink!

Best,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on October 14, 2014, 06:59:52 am
If you would like to pm me your address I have picked up a couple of bits for you... a bit like a goody bag!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 14, 2014, 09:58:40 am
I keep forgetting just how many projects I've got on the go...! Ah well, keeps me out of mischief...


The Riddle 07 now has her proper "desert sand" painted wheels and black/red valve gear...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17366.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17366)




A formerly rather ropey-looking green LNER A3 that will be a shiny new BR Experimental Blue (ish) A3...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17367.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17367)



Problems with acrylic satin varnish "bloom" on my Southern tank. Bizarrely it only seems to have affected the top rather than the sides, so I'll paint over, re-line and re-varnish...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17368.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17368)




Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on October 14, 2014, 10:02:02 am
Problems with acrylic satin varnish "bloom" on my Southern tank. Bizarrely it only seems to have affected the top rather than the sides, so I'll paint over, re-line and re-varnish...

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17368.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17368[/url])


Have you considered using this as a weathering example? If you chose to weather it it would save having a full repaint of what you've already done....

Which varnish was it you used here?

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on October 14, 2014, 10:15:58 am
Oz

Apologies if you've already mentioned it, but might I ask how you are applying the paint to the bodies. Are you brushing it on or using an airbrush? So the steps would be;

1) Prime (sprayed on?)
2) Painted (one or two coats?)
3) Varnished (applied with a brush?)

Sorry for all the questions, it's just I'm fascinated with your work and it's something I aspire to one day. Why not learn from the maestro hey?

Cheers

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 14, 2014, 10:29:27 am
Oz

Apologies if you've already mentioned it, but might I ask how you are applying the paint to the bodies. Are you brushing it on or using an airbrush? So the steps would be;

1) Prime (sprayed on?)
2) Painted (one or two coats?)
3) Varnished (applied with a brush?)

Sorry for all the questions, it's just I'm fascinated with your work and it's something I aspire to one day. Why not learn from the maestro hey?

Cheers

Dan

Hi Dan,

It depends on the loco (plastic/metal) and the paint I'm using.

This particular one has a metal body, so I primed it with Halfords grey primer spray. I only have Maunsell green as a Humbrol acrylic pot, so I painted this on (2 coats) with a brush, then 2 coats of Humbrol acrylic gloss varnish, again brush, and then applied the decals. Then I used Humbrol spray satin varnish over the top - which is where the bloom problems began.

I think my acrylic varnish spraying environment needs to be a lot drier and warmer than my unheated garage!

When I use enamel or Halfords car spray paints (much easier!!) I use the same primer, then do the main colour first - then pick out detailing (black roof, smokebox, footplates, red buffer beams etc) in enamel thinned with a little IPA.

Normally car paints will be "gloss" enough to accept decals, so these are applied and then a final coat of spray satin enamel varnish over the top.

"Maestro"?! *blushes* You are too kind, Sir! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 14, 2014, 10:32:38 am

[/quote]

Have you considered using this as a weathering example? If you chose to weather it it would save having a full repaint of what you've already done....

Which varnish was it you used here?

Cheers,
Alan
[/quote]

I've shied away from weathering, simply because it's not something I've ever done before... but you're right, maybe this is just the excuse I need...! ;)

The varnish I used here was Humbrol spray acrylic satin, but I used it in chilly and damp conditions - not a mistake I'll make again!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 20, 2014, 10:28:49 am
I found this badly beaten, chopped about and bent Beyer Garrett kit in a box of spares and repairs I bought. Talk about "kit-bashing"!!

I'm going to try and fix it....   :worried:  :confused1:  :doh:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17651.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17651)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17652.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17652)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17653.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17653)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17654.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17654)

Wish me luck...

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on October 20, 2014, 10:52:51 am
Good luck! :worried:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hailstone on October 20, 2014, 10:53:07 am
Oz

Apologies if you've already mentioned it, but might I ask how you are applying the paint to the bodies. Are you brushing it on or using an airbrush? So the steps would be;

1) Prime (sprayed on?)
2) Painted (one or two coats?)
3) Varnished (applied with a brush?)

Sorry for all the questions, it's just I'm fascinated with your work and it's something I aspire to one day. Why not learn from the maestro hey?

Cheers

Dan

Hi Dan,

It depends on the loco (plastic/metal) and the paint I'm using.

This particular one has a metal body, so I primed it with Halfords grey primer spray. I only have Maunsell green as a Humbrol acrylic pot, so I painted this on (2 coats) with a brush, then 2 coats of Humbrol acrylic gloss varnish, again brush, and then applied the decals. Then I used Humbrol spray satin varnish over the top - which is where the bloom problems began.

I think my acrylic varnish spraying environment needs to be a lot drier and warmer than my unheated garage!

When I use enamel or Halfords car spray paints (much easier!!) I use the same primer, then do the main colour first - then pick out detailing (black roof, smokebox, footplates, red buffer beams etc) in enamel thinned with a little IPA.

Normally car paints will be "gloss" enough to accept decals, so these are applied and then a final coat of spray satin enamel varnish over the top.

"Maestro"?! *blushes* You are too kind, Sir! :)

when it comes to spray painting, whether you use an aerosol or airbrush, especially if using gloss, I wait for a dry sunny day before attempting to paint, as any dampness or cold in the air will cause gloss paint to bloom. another tip is to pre warm aerosol cans in arm water before applying, and if using propellant cans for airbrushes, to keep the propellant can in warm water as this prevents the possibility of the propellant cooling the paint and causing a blobby spray.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 20, 2014, 11:41:12 am
I think you will need more than luck fixing that Garett it looks beyond repair to me,I would have binned it,can't wait to see what an expert like you can do.
Keep us posted with the progress.
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on October 20, 2014, 11:51:15 am
I think you will need more than luck fixing that Garett it looks beyond repair to me,I would have binned it,can't wait to see what an expert like you can do.
Keep us posted with the progress.
Bob

Aha ... underestimate the Maestro at your peril Bob!  ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on October 20, 2014, 12:17:49 pm
when it comes to spray painting, whether you use an aerosol or airbrush, especially if using gloss, I wait for a dry sunny day before attempting to paint, as any dampness or cold in the air will cause gloss paint to bloom.

Presumably this also applies to the piece being painted? If there is excess dampness from the atmosphere on it? Would you advise warming it slightly too?

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 20, 2014, 12:46:36 pm
I think you will need more than luck fixing that Garett it looks beyond repair to me,I would have binned it,can't wait to see what an expert like you can do.
Keep us posted with the progress.
Bob

Thanks Bob! I don't know about expert - more like "inveterate tinkerer who can't bear to throw anything away"! ;)

The first thing it's going to need is stripping off all the paint and filler to see what of the original remains. Then, after I've had a little cry, I will see what can be re-created with plasticard, Milliputt and bits of old Airfix kit. I do like a challenge, me.  :doh:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hailstone on October 20, 2014, 02:05:56 pm
when it comes to spray painting, whether you use an aerosol or airbrush, especially if using gloss, I wait for a dry sunny day before attempting to paint, as any dampness or cold in the air will cause gloss paint to bloom.

Presumably this also applies to the piece being painted? If there is excess dampness from the atmosphere on it? Would you advise warming it slightly too?

Cheers,
Alan
I do my spray painting in the lean to of my house - it has a clear roof, so even at this time of year a metal body left in the sun will warm up quite quickly, but you are quite right, it should be warm - plastics & resins do not usually get that cold.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 20, 2014, 08:46:17 pm
Someone will probably point out that this loco never appeared in this livery (I think it should be blue) but it's still rather nice and I'm pleading Rule One....

The bizarre taken on GWR green 50 was 50 007 renamed as 'Edward Elgar'. It's still around. As a 50 livery it was probably only beaten by the terrible mock LMS livery applied to 50017.

They were originally blue. As well as the specials in green/lms they've also appeared in dutch, network south east and for reasons never entirely clear 50035 spent some time in preservation in Loadhaul which looked absolutely stunning on a 50.

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: NeMo on October 20, 2014, 09:12:53 pm
The bizarre taken on GWR green 50 was 50 007 renamed as 'Edward Elgar'. It's still around. As a 50 livery it was probably only beaten by the terrible mock LMS livery applied to 50017.
Must be a personal taste thing. I remember being 14 years old and seeing it in the flesh at the Old Oak Common 'GWR 150' day on a nice sunny day. It looked lovely. Made a nice change even from the large logo livery that otherwise suited the 50s rather well.

On the other hand most of the post-privatisation liveries strike me as rather garish compared with the more subtle BR liveries. A bit like comparing British racing green with Italian supercar red!

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 21, 2014, 10:40:35 am
I stripped the Beyer Garratt. Goodness, what a lot of gunk and glue and kit-bashed savagery.

Some may see a wreck - I see... potential... ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17688.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17688)




At the other end of the scale, the B1 kit I was working on is now finished (except for the fact that the valve gear is on upside down, as I discovered on a test run last night!) Very pleased with it otherwise:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17689.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17689)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17690.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17690)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on October 21, 2014, 10:49:12 am
You'll be able to give up the day job soon Oz ... remember us mere mortals when you make it please  :-*
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on October 21, 2014, 01:52:36 pm
The B1 looks superb :thumbsup:
The Garrett looks....erm.....challenging :worried:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: jivebunny on October 24, 2014, 06:00:09 pm
Can anyone provide me with a credible excuse to run a B1 through 1990s Chester?  :D

Absolutely stunning work.

JB
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: scotsoft on October 24, 2014, 06:04:20 pm
Can anyone provide me with a credible excuse to run a B1 through 1990s Chester?  :D

Absolutely stunning work.

JB

Rule 1  :thumbsup:  :NGaugersRule:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 24, 2014, 06:49:20 pm
Can anyone provide me with a credible excuse to run a B1 through 1990s Chester?  :D

Mayflower has been operated on the main line - I don't know about the 1990s but it did run in the 1970s on specials from Carnforth and over the past few years has returned to such use.

61264 ran on the mainline from 1998 (like a Dapol B1 - the real one ran for under a year and then had to be taken to pieces and repaired before going back into regular reliable service until 2008  ;) )

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on October 24, 2014, 07:00:49 pm
the real one ran for under a year and then had to be taken to pieces and repaired before going back into regular reliable service until 2008  ;)

What was the problem there, out of curiosity?

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 24, 2014, 07:08:06 pm
Recurrent boiler leaks. In the end the boiler went back to the repairers/rebuilders for remedial work then the loco re-entered service in 1999 and behaved well.

Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Roy L S on October 24, 2014, 07:29:48 pm
I stripped the Beyer Garratt. Goodness, what a lot of gunk and glue and kit-bashed savagery.

Some may see a wreck - I see... potential... ;)

At the other end of the scale, the B1 kit I was working on is now finished (except for the fact that the valve gear is on upside down, as I discovered on a test run last night!) Very pleased with it otherwise:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17689.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17689[/url])


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17690.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17690[/url])


The B1 looks very nice indeed. Just one observation though (and it may not be an issue to you I appreciate), as far as I am aware 8614 was never a number carried by a B1..

Regards

Roy
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 04, 2014, 12:00:12 pm
I stripped the Beyer Garratt. Goodness, what a lot of gunk and glue and kit-bashed savagery.

Some may see a wreck - I see... potential... ;)

At the other end of the scale, the B1 kit I was working on is now finished (except for the fact that the valve gear is on upside down, as I discovered on a test run last night!) Very pleased with it otherwise:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17689.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17689[/url])


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17690.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17690[/url])


The B1 looks very nice indeed. Just one observation though (and it may not be an issue to you I appreciate), as far as I am aware 8614 was never a number carried by a B1..

Regards

Roy


Thanks Roy! I'll admit I used that number because I had the decals to hand - perhaps I should be a bit more rigorous in my research! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 04, 2014, 01:48:18 pm
I've been away with work for a week but I've had the chance to get some little bits done to my various projects.


The blue A3 has a little lining on - the colour is growing on me... I painted over the bloom on the Southern tank and re-lined (fortunately I only had to do the top, the rest was alright - looks OK. I might do the final varnish with a brush this time!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/37/thumb_18232.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18232)


Reconstruction works start on the Beyer Garratt - there will be a lot more to come, but it looks do-able now rather than a mangled mess of squished metal!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/37/thumb_18234.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18234)


When all else fails - plasticard and LOTS of Milliput!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/37/thumb_18233.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18233)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on November 04, 2014, 02:57:28 pm
The blue A3 has a little lining on - the colour is growing on me... I painted over the bloom on the Southern tank and re-lined (fortunately I only had to do the top, the rest was alright - looks OK. I might do the final varnish with a brush this time!

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/37/thumb_18232.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18232[/url])


I always think that tank engines look nicer in Maunsell lined SR green. This one certainly does!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on November 04, 2014, 04:09:25 pm
"Some say he raises locos from the dead. Others say his Kellogs cornflakes are delivered in the morning on an n-gauge train ... all we know is, he's called THE STIG OZYMANDIAS!"
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 04, 2014, 04:37:41 pm
"Some say he raises locos from the dead. Others say his Kellogs cornflakes are delivered in the morning on an n-gauge train ... all we know is, he's called THE STIG OZYMANDIAS!"

 :laughabovepost:

Hahahahaaa! Thank you Dan! I am blushing hugely in delighted and grateful embarrassment... :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on November 04, 2014, 04:43:19 pm
... just don't wear a white crash helmet when you're doing your resprays! :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: railsquid on November 04, 2014, 11:46:59 pm
So where's the "Star in a reasonably priced DMU" section?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on November 05, 2014, 10:11:25 am
So where's the "Star in a reasonably priced DMU" section?

Still out on the track :-X
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on November 05, 2014, 11:00:49 am
So where's the "Star in a reasonably priced DMU" section?

Still out on the track :-X

You guys beat me to it!!! Star in a reasonably priced carDMU!

I can just see it now ...

"... a bit fast coming into Chicago, oh good braking around Hammerhead, nicely through the Follow-Through .... oh, he's lost the rear-trailer coming out of Gambon!"

Who's gonna set up the track? We could have our own pimped-up DMU's, complete with leaderboard. We can't really replicate "wet" due to the 'lectrics, so we could have "oily" instead  ;D

How about set it up for next year's TINGS and invite James May to be host?

James May: "Nobby, you did it in a time of, ... 35.4 seconds, just behind Ozy's 35.3! Round of applause everybody!"

I can just picture it now  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 05, 2014, 01:37:52 pm
So where's the "Star in a reasonably priced DMU" section?

Still out on the track :-X

You guys beat me to it!!! Star in a reasonably priced carDMU!

I can just see it now ...

"... a bit fast coming into Chicago, oh good braking around Hammerhead, nicely through the Follow-Through .... oh, he's lost the rear-trailer coming out of Gambon!"

Who's gonna set up the track? We could have our own pimped-up DMU's, complete with leaderboard. We can't really replicate "wet" due to the 'lectrics, so we could have "oily" instead  ;D

How about set it up for next year's TINGS and invite James May to be host?

James May: "Nobby, you did it in a time of, ... 35.4 seconds, just behind Ozy's 35.3! Round of applause everybody!"

I can just picture it now  :laughabovepost:

It would be the best track... in the world!

;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on November 05, 2014, 03:17:48 pm
I'm glad this is your thread so we can't be accused of hijacking it but.....................
as long as I'm faster than Captain Slow, I don't mind :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 06, 2014, 12:38:06 pm
NGF member Steve Purves has very kindly sent me some loco bodies that need some love (thanks again, Steve!!) :)

Here they are - should keep me busy for a bit! The little Peco without a roof is very sweet - I hope I can get hold of a suitable 0-4-0 chassis from somewhere!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/37/thumb_18267.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18267)


There is a Farish black 5 under here. No really, there is... ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/37/thumb_18268.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18268)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: railsquid on November 06, 2014, 12:53:59 pm
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/37/thumb_18267.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18267[/url])

There is a Farish black 5 under here. No really, there is... ;)

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/37/thumb_18268.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18268[/url])


I don't even want to imagine what has gone on with this one.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 06, 2014, 01:41:41 pm
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/37/thumb_18267.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18267[/url])

There is a Farish black 5 under here. No really, there is... ;)

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/37/thumb_18268.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18268[/url])


I don't even want to imagine what has gone on with this one.


Having stripped most of the gunge off, I can tell you that it involved wallpaper paste, card, loo roll and what looked suspiciously like chewing gum...   :goggleeyes:

The cab roof of the Black Five has been literally ripped off, so I'll need to reconstruct it. I can't quite envisage what sort of loco the original modeller was trying to create with the cladding and the straight sides, enclosed cylinder blocks etc - any ideas, anyone?  :hmmm:

I'd quite like to make something a bit different with it...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on November 06, 2014, 01:49:22 pm
I'm glad this is your thread so we can't be accused of hijacking it but.....................
as long as I'm faster than Captain Slow, I don't mind :D

Captain Slow is actually pretty fast. It's Terry Wogan in the reasonably priced car you definitely need to beat!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: railsquid on November 06, 2014, 01:52:54 pm
Having stripped most of the gunge off, I can tell you that it involved wallpaper paste, card, loo roll and what looked suspiciously like chewing gum...   :goggleeyes:

I can just hear the Blue Peter presenter saying "and here's one we made earlier".
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on November 06, 2014, 02:27:35 pm
No idea! I saw them advertised elsewhere as 'free plus postage' so thought our man Oz was top of the list, I had them delivered to me and then forwarded them on. I too wondered what the black-five-a-like could be... maybe it was the LMS Fury?
The little peco B4 makes up in to a nice little model, I think its an Arnold chassis it requires?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on November 07, 2014, 06:10:42 am
That's a very nice thing you did Steve. Feel honored to be amongst such members.

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 07, 2014, 09:12:18 am
That's a very nice thing you did Steve. Feel honored to be amongst such members.

Dan

Hear hear, Dan - I second that! :)

If I get the "garage time" I'll start stripping the first ones tonight.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on November 07, 2014, 12:55:24 pm
The little peco B4 makes up in to a nice little model, I think its an Arnold chassis it requires?

Yep, it does. I have one that I bought second hand, and it's a lovely little runner. I just need to get around to blackening all the red parts of the chassis. At the moment it looks far too 'German'.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 07, 2014, 02:00:41 pm
The cab roof of the Black Five has been literally ripped off, so I'll need to reconstruct it. I can't quite envisage what sort of loco the original modeller was trying to create with the cladding and the straight sides, enclosed cylinder blocks etc - any ideas, anyone?  :hmmm:

It looks like me like a possible attempt at the LMS turbomotive in it's short period of deflectored running, given the fitments to the footplate on the RHS. It would explain why the valve gear is all missing too.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Only Me on November 07, 2014, 02:57:03 pm
It does indeed look a bit like the last two but one pictures in this link...

Maybe trying to be prototypical!

http://britishrailways.tripod.com/harrow.html (http://britishrailways.tripod.com/harrow.html)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 07, 2014, 06:02:37 pm
It does indeed look a bit like the last two but one pictures in this link...

Maybe trying to be prototypical!

[url]http://britishrailways.tripod.com/harrow.html[/url] ([url]http://britishrailways.tripod.com/harrow.html[/url])


Well I was thinking more like this:

http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwr/nuneaton/station/lnwrns1617.jpg (http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwr/nuneaton/station/lnwrns1617.jpg)

but I think your pic is probably more accurate!!!  :laughabovepost:

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 10, 2014, 01:55:38 pm
It does indeed look a bit like the last two but one pictures in this link...

Maybe trying to be prototypical!

[url]http://britishrailways.tripod.com/harrow.html[/url] ([url]http://britishrailways.tripod.com/harrow.html[/url])


Well I was thinking more like this:

[url]http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwr/nuneaton/station/lnwrns1617.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwr/nuneaton/station/lnwrns1617.jpg[/url])

but I think your pic is probably more accurate!!!  :laughabovepost:

Cheers,
Alan


Oooh, I like that...! Thanks Alan, I think that poor battered Black 5 may have found its next incarnation...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 10, 2014, 02:00:38 pm
Bear in mind the B5 is really a poor starting point for this - it's way too short, the boiler is too small diameter, the wheels are totally underscale. Really to do 6202 a Farish Duchess is a better start, or one of the old DM Princess kits.

There was a kit I believe of the Turbomotive too, but don't recall who did it, and I'm sure it's long out of production.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on November 10, 2014, 02:12:23 pm
B H Enterprise S6 is the Stanier Turbomotive kit Ray might do spare bits to help you never opened the box so I don't know what bits are attached to the boiler or the running board  etc  .
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 10, 2014, 02:17:29 pm
And here are four of the five, stripped and naked...!

See? I told you there was a B5 under all that gunk... ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/37/thumb_18428.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18428)

They all need another good scrub with kitchen cleaner and any stubborn bits of paint prised out with a pin, but save the B5 and the 0-4-0 which need some repair work they're ready for primer.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: joe cassidy on November 10, 2014, 06:36:47 pm
B H Enterprise S6 is the Stanier Turbomotive kit Ray might do spare bits to help you never opened the box so I don't know what bits are attached to the boiler or the running board  etc  .
Bob

Bob,

Do you know whether B H Enterprises are now firing on all cylinders or are they still sorting out their family problems ?

Don't want to bother them if the're suffering.

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on November 11, 2014, 01:14:18 pm
Bob,

Do you know whether B H Enterprises are now firing on all cylinders or are they still sorting out their family problems ?

Don't want to bother them if the're suffering.

Best regards,


Joe

They can't possibly be firing on all cylinders. I'm still waiting for a June order to be fulfilled.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on November 11, 2014, 01:48:25 pm
And here are four of the five, stripped and naked...!

See? I told you there was a B5 under all that gunk... ;)

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/37/thumb_18428.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18428[/url])

They all need another good scrub with kitchen cleaner and any stubborn bits of paint prised out with a pin, but save the B5 and the 0-4-0 which need some repair work they're ready for primer.


Wow, What a transformation, looking forward to seeing how they turn out!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 14, 2014, 09:57:25 am

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/thumb_14044.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14044[/url])


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/thumb_14045.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14045[/url])







I started this thread with the two scratch/kit-bash built locos above, the Riddle 07 and the 7F. These are now very nearly finished - just a bit of touching up and final details to do - so I thought I'd give a pictorial update while I had the camera to hand...:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/36/thumb_18555.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18555)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/36/thumb_18556.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18556)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/36/thumb_18557.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18557)


I was going to sell both of them, but my son has rather fallen in love with the Riddle (it's now "his special loco") and I'm very fond of the 7F...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on November 14, 2014, 10:27:10 am
You've made a superb job of both :admiration:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on November 14, 2014, 11:49:24 am
I think you're more than entitled to keep the odd one  ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 17, 2014, 11:05:20 am
I was getting a bit fed up with having to fiddle around putting together an oval every time I wanted to test a loco, so a little "garage time" later...

TA DAH! A permanent test track, complete with turntable so I can spin locos round and test cornering in both directions (and park them in the soon-to-be-added sidings).

I have a feeling this will develop into a mini-layout in its own right...  ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/36/thumb_18720.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18720)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 19, 2014, 02:53:07 pm





At the other end of the scale, the B1 kit I was working on is now finished (except for the fact that the valve gear is on upside down, as I discovered on a test run last night!) Very pleased with it otherwise:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17689.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17689[/url])


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/38/thumb_17690.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17690[/url])


Reluctantly, now I've finished her, the B1 has to go on ebay to fund other projects - she's a lovely looking loco and runs very nicely, if anyone's interested...! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on November 19, 2014, 03:34:57 pm
... if anyone's interested? If anyone's interested? Are you kidding me Oz? We're ALL interested!

I very much hope to be a proud owner of one of your fine examples one day.

Oh - don't forget that plenty of bodies in varoius conditions pop up on ebay - some painted, some unpainted. Nice little projects for you, since all you have to do is do what you do best, and you don't have to worry about the gubbins inside a chassis.

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 25, 2014, 12:26:59 pm
A very happy eldest tests out the test track...

I had to re-set the turntable (hence the masking tape) because - sod's law! - the dead spot was exactly where the main track joins it... :doh:

Works nicely now, though! :)

I need to complete the sidings and maybe add an engine shed. And a station. And maybe a tunnel.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/36/thumb_18967.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18967)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on November 25, 2014, 12:56:38 pm
Sounds like "mission creep" on the test track Oz!

Good to see you're bringing a budding enthusiast into the hobby. The more the better!

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 25, 2014, 01:01:57 pm
Sounds like "mission creep" on the test track Oz!



Do you think...? ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: railsquid on November 25, 2014, 01:12:47 pm
Sounds like "mission creep" on the test track Oz!



Do you think...? ;)
You definitely need some sort of platform (curved *and* straight) so you can check the pistony things on the sides of kettles don't stick out too far. Maybe a bridge or tunnel or two for clearance testing. Just sayin', like.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 25, 2014, 01:22:55 pm
Sounds like "mission creep" on the test track Oz!



Do you think...? ;)
You definitely need some sort of platform (curved *and* straight) so you can check the pistony things on the sides of kettles don't stick out too far. Maybe a bridge or tunnel or two for clearance testing. Just sayin', like.

Quite right, railsquid - but obviously all in the name of thorough and rigorous scientific testing. And then of course you'd have to check that locos would go over ballast properly...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on November 25, 2014, 01:44:48 pm
this was my test track...

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20507.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20507.0)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 25, 2014, 01:54:23 pm
this was my test track...

[url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20507.0[/url] ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20507.0[/url])


Steve, lead me not into temptation...  ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on November 25, 2014, 04:20:39 pm
Sounds like "mission creep" on the test track Oz!



Do you think...? ;)

Yup, yup, yup to all of that ... oh, and don't forget the bushes and trees ... you need to be able to test the colour of the newly painted locos against a suitable backdrop!
You definitely need some sort of platform (curved *and* straight) so you can check the pistony things on the sides of kettles don't stick out too far. Maybe a bridge or tunnel or two for clearance testing. Just sayin', like.

Quite right, railsquid - but obviously all in the name of thorough and rigorous scientific testing. And then of course you'd have to check that locos would go over ballast properly...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 27, 2014, 11:00:29 am
Just some of what's on the go at the moment...:

Stripped and primered pannier (courtesy of Steve APA Parves, thanks Steve!)
Stripped, repainted and half-decalled Minitrix 31
Re-built, stripped and primered E5 0-6-2T
Another "Harry Potter" Olton Hall, half-lined
Stripped and re-painted Prairie in (fictitious!) London Transport livery - lined, awaiting varnish
Stripped, painted and lined Atlas 0-6-0
Stripped and re-painted 4MT kit on an Arnold chassis - awaiting decals and varnish

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/36/thumb_19029.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19029)



And then there's this lot to fix up!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/36/thumb_19030.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19030)

Good job my kids are still young and go to bed early - otherwise I'd never find the time!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on November 27, 2014, 11:10:42 am
Strange looking class 31 :goggleeyes: ???
Sure it's not a 33?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: railsquid on November 27, 2014, 11:15:29 am
Strange looking class 31 :goggleeyes: ???
Sure it's not a 33?
My thought exactly. Well almost - certainly something Crompton-ish, but possibly a 26/27. Definitely not a 31. The blue one in the box looks like a 31.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 27, 2014, 11:28:38 am
Oops! Beg your pardon, you're quite right - the one in the first photo is a Minitrix 27 and the one in the box is a Lima 31.

So many projects, I get confused... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on November 27, 2014, 01:11:32 pm
That could be a Midland 4F on the right-hand side of the left-hand box. Like bow ties and a fez, 4Fs are cool...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 27, 2014, 01:25:54 pm
That could be a Midland 4F on the right-hand side of the left-hand box. Like bow ties and a fez, 4Fs are cool...

It is a 4F, Pete - and it will look even cooler when it's been repainted! Any interesting suggestions on livery, anyone? Black or LMS crimson seem to be the most common, but I want to make it a bit different...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on November 27, 2014, 01:59:09 pm
It is a 4F, Pete - and it will look even cooler when it's been repainted! Any interesting suggestions on livery, anyone? Black or LMS crimson seem to be the most common, but I want to make it a bit different...

The only allowed deviation from black for a 4F might be S&DJR prussian blue of which there were 5, numbered 57-61, Pete would probably want one of them; don't think any 4Fs ever appeared in any shade of red apart from the Lima ones!.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on November 27, 2014, 07:57:53 pm
The S&D 4Fs were in black rather than blue, at least the last batch which match the Farish variety were. Still, very very soon now you'll be able to get S&D loco decals from Railtec so that would certainly be different. I already have two 4Fs lined up for this, but they could really do with a Deeley tender instead of a Fowler one.

If you're going to stick with the Fowler tender then it really has to be LMS black, as far as I know.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 27, 2014, 11:05:13 pm
The S&D 4Fs were in black rather than blue, at least the last batch which match the Farish variety were. Still, very very soon now you'll be able to get S&D loco decals from Railtec so that would certainly be different. I already have two 4Fs lined up for this, but they could really do with a Deeley tender instead of a Fowler one.

If you're going to stick with the Fowler tender then it really has to be LMS black, as far as I know.

Thanks Pete - you certainly know your 4Fs! :) Could I justifiably do a blue S&D 4F with a Deeley tender (frantically Googles deeley tender!!) ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on November 28, 2014, 01:12:41 pm
You can definitely do a Midland/LMS 4F with a Deeley tender:

http://www.petersspares.com/bachmann-31881-midland-class-4f-43875-br-early-emblem-johnson-deeley-tender.ir?cName=bachmann-steam-locomotives (http://www.petersspares.com/bachmann-31881-midland-class-4f-43875-br-early-emblem-johnson-deeley-tender.ir?cName=bachmann-steam-locomotives)

If you can work out how to downgrade a 4F to a 3F then you can also do one in S&D blue. Union Mills already offer an S&D 3F in blue. Here's a black one for the detail:

http://www.vectis.co.uk/AuctionImages/236/5369_l.jpg (http://www.vectis.co.uk/AuctionImages/236/5369_l.jpg)

But you can't do a 4F in S&D blue. There was only one batch of 4Fs with the S&D, delivered in 1928, and these were all in goods black. Mind you, that hasn't stopped the heritage people in charge of 7F 2-8-0. That should also be black but they've painted it in Prussian Blue!

The Midland 4Fs should all be black too. Sorry, no colour allowed!

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 03, 2014, 10:41:07 am
Quick update from the paint room...!


The Pannier which Steve Purves gave me is now black and showing her corporate loyalty - undecided whether to line this in red and white or just number it and leave it plain...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19196.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19196)




The Holden body (also from Steve) plus a Lima Deltic which is being re-painted to become a DP2. I know the roof vents are all different on the DP2, but this is just a bit of fun...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19197.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19197)




Stripped and repaired E5 tank, mid-paint:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19198.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19198)




Nearly finished the decals on this A3 - just need to find a nameplate!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19199.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19199)




This is what happens when you get too enthusiastic with acrylic spray varnish - your lining goes wrinkly!! I'll have to sand this off and re-do it. :(

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19200.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19200)




Bloom free at last!! The Southern tank re-varnished (this time in warm and dry conditions!)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19201.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19201)



More anon...

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on December 03, 2014, 11:02:24 am
Looking very good... I like that pannier tank!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on December 03, 2014, 01:26:08 pm
My eye is firmly fixed on the E5. It's looking very lovely indeed.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 03, 2014, 01:36:58 pm
My eye is firmly fixed on the E5. It's looking very lovely indeed.

It'll be for sale once it's done, Peter... ;)

I'm thinking white lining rather than yellow (as I did on the other Southern tank) for this one - I think that's more correct?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 03, 2014, 02:02:46 pm
Lining on Maunsell green should be black border, white inside, boiler bands white black white, Fox LNER white black white does the boiler bands nicely, I've also used it on tank  & cab sides, fix it as close to the edge as you can then go over the outer edge with a black fine liner. The prototype was 3" black and something like half inch white IIRC.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 03, 2014, 02:09:13 pm
Lining on Maunsell green should be black border, white inside, boiler bands white black white, Fox LNER white black white does the boiler bands nicely, I've also used it on tank  & cab sides, fix it as close to the edge as you can then go over the outer edge with a black fine liner. The prototype was 3" black and something like half inch white IIRC.

Thanks Mike! That's what it shall be! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 03, 2014, 02:27:32 pm
Use this pic of a Dapol M7, the black doesn't show up too well, just remember it's outside the white

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rf3rFHkdhW8/TrGrbgapIwI/AAAAAAAAAGE/_qfEl5TpFKo/s1600/southern.jpg)

From 1923 to  around 1930 numbers would be prefixed by A for Ashford on ex SECR locos, B for Brighton on ex LBSC, or E for Eastleigh on ex LSWR, from around 1930 the prefix was removed, LSWR locos retained their origfinal numbers, exSECR had 1000 added to their  pregrouping number and exLBSC had 2000 added, Locos on the duplicate list which had pregrouping number preceded by a 0 had 3000 added to the number.

The A, B or E would be positioned like this   SOUTHERN
                                                                       E
                                                                     123

Not many tank locos received Malachite, the M7' on ECS duties between Clapham and Waterloo were some of the few that did.

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on December 03, 2014, 02:31:44 pm
Bloom free at last!! The Southern tank re-varnished (this time in warm and dry conditions!)

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19201.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19201[/url])



Minor point on this one - you should remove the central wheelset and swap it around so the join in the coupling rods is at the rear end of the chassis - this is the way it was originally on the Farish GP tanks.

HTH,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 03, 2014, 02:39:37 pm
Bloom free at last!! The Southern tank re-varnished (this time in warm and dry conditions!)

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19201.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19201[/url])



Minor point on this one - you should remove the central wheelset and swap it around so the join in the coupling rods is at the rear end of the chassis - this is the way it was originally on the Farish GP tanks.

HTH,
Alan


Thanks Alan - will do! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on December 03, 2014, 03:48:33 pm
Here's confirmation of the lining on an E5. If you're very good with a paintbrush, it might be possible to paint on the black edging and then overlay that with the white lining:

(http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/gallery/album_1938/gallery_13601_1938_1247847.jpg) (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/gallery/album_1938/gallery_13601_1938_1247847.jpg)

I'm just guessing, of course. I have the E5 kit and a spare chassis but I'm not good enough to be able to tackle it yet.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 05, 2014, 10:38:53 am
Finally finished the "London Transport" Prairie - here she is!:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19226.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19226)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19227.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19227)


Another one to be sold to fund the layout, sadly - but I'm going to re-do a Pannier tank in the same livery for myself.

The Prairie is on ebay if anyone fancies it...! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on December 05, 2014, 11:10:43 am
Very smart :thumbsup:
 :greatwork:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on December 05, 2014, 01:19:53 pm
Great work! Now where's the soot and dirt of the London Underground? ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 05, 2014, 02:15:25 pm
Great work! Now where's the soot and dirt of the London Underground? ;)

Ha! :) I haven't got into weathering yet - I like my locos spick and span... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on December 07, 2014, 08:40:38 am
Oz

It's been on my mind for a while now to let you know about body sales (loco bodies that is  :D) that come up on ebay. Most have come and gone but check out what this guy is selling:

ebay username: craigrumball09

He's the chap that has lots and lots of scrap bodies for sale. He takes the picture with them balanced on his laptop keyboard (that might jog your memory, since I don't have a direct link to take you there).

Anyway, his bodies are often of no use to the general buyer, since they are scraped, split, chopped - you name it. They're a mixture of all sorts (Poole / Chinese Farish, possibly Lima and other makes).

I know you've been working on and selling complete locos but would you consider bodies only (seeing that's where your expertise is). I know I'd be interested in bidding / commissioning some Poole Farish bodies from you.

Just a thought but definitely worth you checking out what this guy has to offer. I couldn't think of a better home for these scrap bodies.

Also, to the mods, this has to go down as thread of the year. Just look at the no. of views! Do we have a competition for such a thing? (And if so then you can throw my hat in the ring for "cheesiest thread of the year" with my Christmas Calendar).

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 08, 2014, 09:20:47 am
Oz

It's been on my mind for a while now to let you know about body sales (loco bodies that is  :D) that come up on ebay. Most have come and gone but check out what this guy is selling:

ebay username: craigrumball09

He's the chap that has lots and lots of scrap bodies for sale. He takes the picture with them balanced on his laptop keyboard (that might jog your memory, since I don't have a direct link to take you there).

Anyway, his bodies are often of no use to the general buyer, since they are scraped, split, chopped - you name it. They're a mixture of all sorts (Poole / Chinese Farish, possibly Lima and other makes).

I know you've been working on and selling complete locos but would you consider bodies only (seeing that's where your expertise is). I know I'd be interested in bidding / commissioning some Poole Farish bodies from you.

Just a thought but definitely worth you checking out what this guy has to offer. I couldn't think of a better home for these scrap bodies.

Also, to the mods, this has to go down as thread of the year. Just look at the no. of views! Do we have a competition for such a thing? (And if so then you can throw my hat in the ring for "cheesiest thread of the year" with my Christmas Calendar).

Dan

Thanks, Dan, I really appreciate it! :) I'll definitely have a look out for those scrap body shells. What sort of work are you looking to have done on your Poole bodies? I'd be happy have a go for you!

Gideon
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on December 08, 2014, 09:33:57 am
Gideon

I have a few chassis which need "clothing" and also wouldn't mind a couple of extra bodies to swap with some of my originals when I fancy a change. Of course I could ask for some of my original bodies to be resprayed but I'm a bit of a stickler for that and think we should first be salvaging the "unsalvageable" from ebay and turning scrap into pride of fleet.

I have Poole diesels across the complete spectrum and I'm guessing (although feel free to tell me otherwise) that diesels are an easier project than kettles. I'd be interested in all kinds but BR Blue and Railfreight Grey spring to mind  :D

Who knows, one or two of your specimens and I might pluck up the confidence to have a go myself. Your work really is infectious in making me want to go down this road. Perhaps it's the hurdle of "a few muck ups first" that's holding me back.

Cheers

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on December 08, 2014, 01:26:37 pm
My eye is firmly fixed on the E5. It's looking very lovely indeed.

It'll be for sale once it's done, Peter... ;)

If the way your Prairie is going on eBay, the E5 will be out of my budget. Still, you deserve a good sale after all that great work.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 08, 2014, 01:33:07 pm
My eye is firmly fixed on the E5. It's looking very lovely indeed.

It'll be for sale once it's done, Peter... ;)

If the way your Prairie is going on eBay, the E5 will be out of my budget. Still, you deserve a good sale after all that great work.

Yes, I'm a bit stunned by how quickly the Prairie has gone up! It might just sit at that level, though. I've got another Prairie body, so it's tempting to do another one in the same livery! I'd give it a different number, though.

I've got to do the (rather brutal!) chassis alterations for the E5 - may do that tonight if I'm feeling vicious enough...;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 09, 2014, 09:51:15 am
I didn't get round to the E5 last night because a new project arrived from ebay - a Trix 2-6-2 tank, spares or repair.

Look at the amount of fluff and detritus I removed from the valve gear and axles - no wonder it wasn't working!! It must have been running on rails made of deep pile carpet...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19356.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19356)


On cleaning the (very grubby and oily) body, a lot of the original decals came off, so I might give it a re-spray in a slightly more "interesting" livery... suggestions welcome...



I also repaired the valve gear on this Mallard, by putting a pin through the driving wheel to replace a broken plastic stub. Works fine now... but the paintwork is saying "please restore me to my former glory" to me... What do we think, a nice garter blue with early LNER lining?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19357.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19357)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on December 09, 2014, 10:10:14 am
How about BR blue with 'british railways' in full on the tender....

http://www.lner.info/locos/A/a4.shtml (http://www.lner.info/locos/A/a4.shtml)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 09, 2014, 10:26:45 am
How about BR blue with 'british railways' in full on the tender....

[url]http://www.lner.info/locos/A/a4.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.lner.info/locos/A/a4.shtml[/url])


I like the look of that!!

Is that lining red and white on the tender and plain red on the boiler bands?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on December 09, 2014, 11:44:03 am
How about BR blue with 'british railways' in full on the tender....

[url]http://www.lner.info/locos/A/a4.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.lner.info/locos/A/a4.shtml[/url])


I like the look of that!!

Is that lining red and white on the tender and plain red on the boiler bands?


I think so, do you have any plans for the class 31 you have uploaded a photo of? I have an urge for an intercity liveried one

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37190-dalzell/10983618763/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/37190-dalzell/10983618763/)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 09, 2014, 11:59:22 am
How about BR blue with 'british railways' in full on the tender....

[url]http://www.lner.info/locos/A/a4.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.lner.info/locos/A/a4.shtml[/url])


I like the look of that!!

Is that lining red and white on the tender and plain red on the boiler bands?


I think so, do you have any plans for the class 31 you have uploaded a photo of? I have an urge for an intercity liveried one

[url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/37190-dalzell/10983618763/[/url] ([url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/37190-dalzell/10983618763/[/url])


I think I do now! Is the top of the InterCity 31 body black or just very dark grey?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on December 09, 2014, 12:00:54 pm
its called 'executive dark grey'. Its got a slight blue tint to it...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on December 09, 2014, 12:47:57 pm
How about BR blue with 'british railways' in full on the tender....

[url]http://www.lner.info/locos/A/a4.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.lner.info/locos/A/a4.shtml[/url])


I like the look of that!!

Is that lining red and white on the tender and plain red on the boiler bands?


Judging from this, there's definitely plain red on the boiler bands, white over the wheels and on the tender. Can't see any red on the tender in this photo, but it's not that sharp anyway:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-klUeItVG0Pk/T2O2PtqmclI/AAAAAAAAAYg/tZQtgePY4Ec/s1600/CIMG3716-1.jpg) (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-klUeItVG0Pk/T2O2PtqmclI/AAAAAAAAAYg/tZQtgePY4Ec/s1600/CIMG3716-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 07, 2015, 11:01:50 am



I think so, do you have any plans for the class 31 you have uploaded a photo of? I have an urge for an intercity liveried one

[url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/37190-dalzell/10983618763/[/url] ([url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/37190-dalzell/10983618763/[/url])


A pic of the the latest lot to be transformed - Steve, the Class 31 is going to be the InterCity you liked the look of! I think it's Grafar (my other 31s are Lima) - sadly I don't have a chassis for it but I'm on the look out.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20201.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20201)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on January 07, 2015, 11:03:11 am
Ooo, looking forward t seeing the results... I have a chassis and am on the look out for a body if this one comes up for sale!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 07, 2015, 11:22:55 am
Ooo, looking forward t seeing the results... I have a chassis and am on the look out for a body if this one comes up for sale!

It will be for sale, Steve! :) I've not done this kind of paint job before, though (with all the bands of colour), so wait and see what the end result's like... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 09, 2015, 11:36:51 am
Updates on current projects:

Another "Harry Potter" Hall awaiting splasher lining, a Deltic pretending to be DP2 and a newly-painted Trix Class 27. The Trix is finished now and I'm quite pleased with it - I reproduced the original livery but changed the running number and added a head code.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20250.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20250)



Pannier tank, stripped, repainted and lined - far too shiny, it will have a coat of matt varnish shortly! Behind it sits a class 52 which I got as a part-built kit - first coat of "Desert Sand" applied. I'm undecided as to whether I should drill out the windows and glaze them - that white metal is mighty thick!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20251.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20251)



The 56, 47 and 31 from my earlier post, now primered (the 31 has white primer as it's going to have an Intercity livery):

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20252.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20252)



And the re-painted and re-lined Minitrix A3, waiting for a nameplate to become "Robert the Devil"...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20253.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20253)

Hope you like them! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on January 09, 2015, 12:27:10 pm
Looking fantastic as always Oz. Do you think Farish vlass 52 windows could be fitted to the Class 52 body if you drilled out the windows correctly? Just a thought.

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on January 09, 2015, 12:28:25 pm
Great work there Ozymandias!

A quick note about you're 'Robert the Devil' though:

Either the body is the old Langley kit or somebody has been doing some bashing to the Minitrix A3 body. The lack of bango dome, steam pipe on the right hand side of the loco and lack of superheater header covers on the smokebox indicates that the body is representing an original Gresley A1 (later A10 under Thompson). I believe that the last of these was rebuilt in late 1947 and all of the original Gresley A1s entered BR service as A3s (except Great Northern but that's another story). To be strictly correct the 'A1' should be in LNER green or wartime black.

Sorry, this isn't intended as a criticism of your repair and repainting skills (which are awesome!) just to point out that the loco wouldn't have appeared in that livery in the condition depicted.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on January 09, 2015, 12:30:56 pm
Looking very good, that pannier has scrubbed up well!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 09, 2015, 12:42:19 pm
Great work there Ozymandias!

A quick note about you're 'Robert the Devil' though:

Either the body is the old Langley kit or somebody has been doing some bashing to the Minitrix A3 body. The lack of bango dome, steam pipe on the right hand side of the loco and lack of superheater header covers on the smokebox indicates that the body is representing an original Gresley A1 (later A10 under Thompson). I believe that the last of these was rebuilt in late 1947 and all of the original Gresley A1s entered BR service as A3s (except Great Northern but that's another story). To be strictly correct the 'A1' should be in LNER green or wartime black.

Sorry, this isn't intended as a criticism of your repair and repainting skills (which are awesome!) just to point out that the loco wouldn't have appeared in that livery in the condition depicted.

Oh, curses! I wish I knew my A3s from my A1s... ;) If I hadn't done all the lining I'd re-paint it the correct colour - but I'm not re-doing all that lining!! This one's a seller, so at least I'll know to advertise it properly as an A1 now!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 09, 2015, 12:47:24 pm
Looking fantastic as always Oz. Do you think Farish vlass 52 windows could be fitted to the Class 52 body if you drilled out the windows correctly? Just a thought.

Dan

Thanks Dan - good idea! I'm sure they could be "made" to fit with a scalpel, some emery paper and a little brutality...;)

Looks like you've made the "to glaze or not to glaze" decision for me... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on January 09, 2015, 12:52:26 pm
I'm just trying to recall what method you used for glazing last time. Am I correct in thinking you didn't get along with the liquid glazing?

Various Farish glazing available but I guess it depends upon how easy they would be to fit to a non Farish body (i.e. how much extra work it adds). Personally I prefer glazed diesels - I think something's missing if they have the windows wound down  ;D

I can have a look and see what I've got, or even order a few sets for you and post them on the next time I make an order for other spares. That way you save on postage, since no point paying 1-2 quid for glazing and another 4 quid for postage.

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 09, 2015, 01:36:16 pm
I'm just trying to recall what method you used for glazing last time. Am I correct in thinking you didn't get along with the liquid glazing?

Various Farish glazing available but I guess it depends upon how easy they would be to fit to a non Farish body (i.e. how much extra work it adds). Personally I prefer glazed diesels - I think something's missing if they have the windows wound down  ;D

I can have a look and see what I've got, or even order a few sets for you and post them on the next time I make an order for other spares. That way you save on postage, since no point paying 1-2 quid for glazing and another 4 quid for postage.

Dan

Thanks Dan! :) Last time I used acetate sheet cut to shape and glued in place - I liked the Glue N Glaze but the window apertures on the Class 50 I was restoring were just too big to use it without it looking an unholy mess...!

I was thinking of ordering a couple of sets of 52 glazing from BR lines as I have another of the same kit in need of restoring - but if you have any lying around spare I would gladly pay postage and beer money!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on January 09, 2015, 01:43:51 pm
Beer money ... That always concentrates the mind  :pint:

I'll have a look Oz!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on January 10, 2015, 10:29:04 am
Oz

I've only got one end for the glazing I'm afraid  :uneasy: Does that qualify me for a half pint?  ;D

I'll ask around.

Cheers

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 11, 2015, 12:29:53 pm
Oz

I've only got one end for the glazing I'm afraid  :uneasy: Does that qualify me for a half pint?  ;D

I'll ask around.

Cheers

Dan

Ha! :) I'm sure I can stretch to a pint...  ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 12, 2015, 12:35:30 pm
The B12 - nearly there! Been a bit of a pig, this restoration - just need to paint the pony wheels and find some way to make the truck sit properly, adjust the coupling rods, weight the rear end of the loco, add some brightwork, fix a coupling to the tender and we're done...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20360.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20360)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on January 12, 2015, 01:10:22 pm
Another masterpiece how DO you do it I expect the offers will come rolling in once you put it up for sale on the Forum.
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 14, 2015, 10:38:53 am
A rather ghostly Class 20, stripped and primered white. Why white primer rather than grey? All will be revealed shortly... ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20400.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20400)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on January 14, 2015, 11:02:37 am
Oz - you've got more models rolling off the production line every month than Jaguar Land Rover  ;D

You certainly don't have the paint shop issues that they had in years gone by  :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on January 14, 2015, 11:07:06 am
Intriguing class 20.... Not going to be and RFS or and Andrew Barclay one is it? Maybe the London underground liveried one....?

Going to be in the market for that 31 shell as I have just sold my grey shell for my 31 and need to get another of some description before the end of the month....
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 14, 2015, 11:15:46 am
Intriguing class 20.... Not going to be and RFS or and Andrew Barclay one is it? Maybe the London underground liveried one....?

Going to be in the market for that 31 shell as I have just sold my grey shell for my 31 and need to get another of some description before the end of the month....

Well done, Steve - I'm going to do the Underground livery! :-) I'd best get on with that 31 too, then... lucky they both use the same shade of rail white, I can spray them together!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Only Me on January 14, 2015, 11:20:26 am
You should try this one ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20401.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20401)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 14, 2015, 11:41:49 am
You should try this one ;)

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20401.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20401[/url])


Crikey - that's quite... bright, isn't it?! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on January 14, 2015, 11:56:54 am
Looks very nice Paul  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 16, 2015, 09:47:59 am
I had the usual "bloom" problems when I used acrylic matt varnish on the black British Railways pannier I was working on - a couple of coats of Humbrol Mattcote sort of improved matters, but not enough, so I thought I would try my hand at weathering to cover it up.

The aim was to portray a really old, grubby and unloved loco towards the end of its working life:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20409.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20409)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20410.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20410)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20411.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20411)

This is the first time I've attempted weathering and it's taught me some helpful lessons (NEVER use matt acrylic spray again, do the weathering before you use matt cote or it goes all gloopy when you use thinners over the top, etc...)

I used dark earth, soot and rust powders (I'm waiting for delivery of the white one) - I'd love to know what you think! Have I been a bit heavy handed on the rust? Is it in the right places? Constructive criticism welcome - I have a lot to learn about weathering! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on January 16, 2015, 09:58:22 am
Have I been a bit heavy handed on the rust? Is it in the right places? Constructive criticism welcome - I have a lot to learn about weathering! :)


The most prominent weathering that seemed to occur on locos at the end of steam was just an overall covering of sooty type black or near black grime, for example:

http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/001-r-lambeth-carnforth-3b.jpg (http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/001-r-lambeth-carnforth-3b.jpg)

That's quite a useful snap as it shows where the overall coating of soot has been wiped off to reveal the original black in places where there's wording. Rust occurred in more specific points rather than over a large amount (well until they got to Barry!) - often around smokeboxes, or cylinder fronts:

http://www.guildford-dragon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/P1030769.jpg (http://www.guildford-dragon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/P1030769.jpg)

One thing is that with the livery you have (early early BR, 1948, 1949 type time), I'm not so sure real decrepitude quite works - there would have been dirt, but a little more pride would have been kept in locos at that time in general - especially as the 94xx was one of the later GW pannier designs, so still pretty new at that time (EDIT: actually built 1947-1956...., so very new at that time!) . Have you thought of changing it to BR late crest, and then doing the ultra-distressed-run-down look?

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 16, 2015, 10:10:43 am
Thanks Alan, very good points and helpful pics! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 21, 2015, 10:11:02 am
A bit of work done on the diesels I'm restoring...

The class 50 and 47 "grey and yellow perils" - both need another coat of yellow and some tidying up after my masking slipped, but they're getting there...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20520.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20520)



The perils again (you can see where the masking slipped!), along with a Warship and a soon-to-be-Intercity 31. The red stripe is no longer on the 31 - I'd used a very old OO gauge decal to create it and while it looks good from a distance it was very brittle and crackled, so I scraped it off. Trouble is, where it had stuck, it had stuck fast...! (Sorry Steve - I know you're keen to get this one - bear with me!)

I've made my own decal by spraying transfer paper, so I'll replace this hopefully tonight.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20518.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20518)




The London Underground class 20 gets a bit of colour - lots more to go!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/33/thumb_20519.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20519)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on January 21, 2015, 10:21:26 am
Looking very good, yet again! The speed you work with these is amazing... No worries on the 31, I have a show next weekend but if that ships sailed then so be it!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 28, 2015, 10:19:37 am
Bit of progress and a new little project...

An old an formerly rather battered Jinty body mid-paint - it's going to be the red BR Jinty 47357 (those blobby black lines will be hidden by lining decals!

I'm unsure about the cab roof - I know it's meant to be mostly the same colour as the body, and reference photos I've seen suggest that just the top plate is black. Is that right or is the central strip all black?! Any advice welcome!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_20695.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20695)



The LU class 20 has a coat of blue. She's going to need some gentle sanding with a very fine grit paper to lose those brush marks in the grey on the roof... I think she'll look pretty good when finished though!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_20696.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20696)



Red stripes back on the InterCity class 31 - home-made using sprayed decal sheet. I'm getting there, Steve!! ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_20697.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20697)

Comments, advice, encouragement all welcome! :)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 29, 2015, 10:41:34 am
Some projects actually close to completion!!

Robert The Devil - re-painted white metal kit on a Britannia chassis (I know, I know -  it's an A1, not an A3... but I only found that out after I'd done the lining and stripping all that off would have been heart-breaking...) ;)

Even without traction tyres (on order), the Devil fair whizzes around the track! :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_20743.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20743)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_20744.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20744)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_20745.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20745)






Another "Harry Potter Hall" Olton Hall, 5972 rolls off the production line (of, er, two so far!) ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_20746.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20746)


Both will be for sale once I'm happy they run well, if anyone's interested...

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on January 29, 2015, 12:15:16 pm
Robert The Devil appears to slope a little bit is that due to no traction tyres other than that two more master pieces How do you do it?
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 29, 2015, 12:17:04 pm
Robert The Devil appears to slope a little bit is that due to no traction tyres other than that two more master pieces How do you do it?
Bob

You're right about the slope, Bob - I think the tender is not quite sitting right in this shot. I'll sort it out... :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 30, 2015, 10:42:51 am
And another one finished! Kit built 4MT tank, repainted and lined in BR green:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_20790.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20790)

Both this and the Harry Potter Hall are up on ebay now.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 02, 2015, 02:57:11 pm
Another one done...!

A very chipped and tired-looking Grafar A3 in BR green has become a shiny, perky-looking LNER 2582 "Sir Hugo" in Darlington green...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_21002.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21002)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_21003.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21003)

Plenty more locos on the workbench (well, dining room table!) - more pics to follow!


Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on February 02, 2015, 03:54:36 pm
Very nice work - though the lining on the tender seems slightly strange (low from top edge) - is this prototypical for this loco?

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on February 02, 2015, 07:31:50 pm
Lovely lining job Ozymandias.  8)

Very nice work - though the lining on the tender seems slightly strange (low from top edge) - is this prototypical for this loco?

Cheers,
Alan

There's a picture of Sir Hugo in 'The Big Four in Colour', Sir Hugo was rebuilt from an A1 in 1941. The locomotive received LNER green again in 1946 and kept it's pre war number of 2582 is per Ozymandias's example. However, the locomotive was paired with a GNR eight wheel tender at this time, not one of the high sided tenders and the nameplates had black backing. So in answer to Alan's question, yes the tender lining is accurate to the loco c. 1946 but not the tender... Also the locomotive wheels should be green.

Sorry to seem like I'm nitpicking (the A1s and A3s are a minefield!), it really is a lovely lining job.  8)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 03, 2015, 09:44:59 am
Lovely lining job Ozymandias.  8)

Very nice work - though the lining on the tender seems slightly strange (low from top edge) - is this prototypical for this loco?

Cheers,
Alan

There's a picture of Sir Hugo in 'The Big Four in Colour', Sir Hugo was rebuilt from an A1 in 1941. The locomotive received LNER green again in 1946 and kept it's pre war number of 2582 is per Ozymandias's example. However, the locomotive was paired with a GNR eight wheel tender at this time, not one of the high sided tenders and the nameplates had black backing. So in answer to Alan's question, yes the tender lining is accurate to the loco c. 1946 but not the tender... Also the locomotive wheels should be green.

Sorry to seem like I'm nitpicking (the A1s and A3s are a minefield!), it really is a lovely lining job.  8)

Your knowledge is very impressive! :) I'm still pretty new to all this but very happy to learn (and get things right for future!).

Keep nit-picking - it's all helpful... :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 05, 2015, 10:23:50 am
A bit more work done...

More decals on the InterCity 31 - orange lining and electricity warning symbols on. Needs a varnish and then the windows and cab fronts can go back in - then it's just a case of finding some buffers. Nearly there, Steve, nearly there... ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_21177.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21177)


Here's a chap we haven't seen for a while (not since page 2 of this thread!!) - Sir Nigel, with his New Nose, Now Naked... needs a brush down with some cream cleaner and then he's ready for some primer...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_21178.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21178)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 06, 2015, 10:43:46 am
I just swapped emails with the (very pleasant!) buyer of the newer "Harry Potter Hall", 5972 Olton Hall - it turns out he worked on the restoration of the original real loco!!

I hope my little replica does it justice... :-\  ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 12, 2015, 11:06:54 am
Paintwork, lining and decals now finished on the InterCity 31 - if only I could find some buffers!! Anyone got any spares kicking about...?  :help:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21465.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21465)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21466.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21466)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21467.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21467)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on February 12, 2015, 11:09:04 am
I have spare Farish buffers....

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on February 12, 2015, 11:31:57 am
Very nice Oz, very nice!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 12, 2015, 11:37:50 am
Very nice Oz, very nice!

Thanks Dan! :) I haven't forgotten your 47 and 56... they are on my list!!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 20, 2015, 10:58:59 am
A bit more work on my various projects...

The London Underground class 20 nears completion - just needs a coat of varnish now:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21801.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21801)



A Jinty in new red BR livery getting some lining:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21803.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21803)



Nigel's New Nose is finished! Only... it's not Nigel any more. This is going to be Mallard in her E22 British Railways livery:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21805.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21805)


The nose repair from the inside - pretty pleased with the way it's come out, considering the massive damage that was there. Just got to make the insides work now - and given that some of the wheels are loose on the axles, this could be a challenge...!  :-:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21806.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21806)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Busybee on February 20, 2015, 11:34:45 am
Try Bob at BR Lines, just ordered some for a 37 cost a bit more than the Poole days.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 24, 2015, 10:19:10 am
The 47 and 56 have their final coat of yellow. Some overspray to correct, then it's varnish and decals...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22030.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22030)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on February 25, 2015, 07:37:22 am
Those pics are whetting my appetite Oz!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 25, 2015, 10:02:11 am
Those pics are whetting my appetite Oz!

:)  I've gone over the yellow overspray now - I will unmask them tonight and hopefully all will be crisp and straight.

Then I just have to re-mask for the red stripe on the 56, varnish, decal, detail paint, final varnish and they're done!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 25, 2015, 10:11:10 am
Call me sad, but few things in life engender as much joy as receiving a package of scrap/spares locos bought cheaply off ebay to discover that all the motors work!

Anyone any ideas as to what this, er, concoction on an Atlas chassis might be...? It looks perfectly salvageable, but I don't know what to restore it back to...! :confused1:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22067.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22067)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22066.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22066)

My first thought was someone had tried to create a Riddle Standard 6, or maybe a Britannia-ish?

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on February 25, 2015, 12:01:10 pm
Wow ... looks like someone mistook it for a microwave meal!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 25, 2015, 12:08:47 pm
Wow ... looks like someone mistook it for a microwave meal!

 :laughabovepost:

You could well be right!! I have a feeling someone was trying to make a Britannia - but that tapered boiler's all wrong for that, isn't it?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on February 25, 2015, 08:51:21 pm
Britannia? Sure it wasn't a Lasagne?  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: greenlaneman on February 25, 2015, 10:00:13 pm
With that four axle tender - S15?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 26, 2015, 12:34:58 pm
With that four axle tender - S15?

I thought about that too - but the S15 is 4-6-0, whereas this is 4-6-2...  :-\

Whatever it is, it's going to need a LOT of tlc - I took the body off last night to give the innards a bit of a service and the metal chassis is literally flaking and crumbling away. I had this on another Atlas model I've got. It's fixable, just, with 2-part metal adhesive used as filler/strengthener, but it's a sod of a job!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on February 26, 2015, 01:30:46 pm
I think your a glutton for punishment This Result is one I can't wait to see.
By the way did you sort out Robert the Devil the one with the slope and you were waiting for tyres to fit.
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 26, 2015, 02:05:26 pm
I think your a glutton for punishment This Result is one I can't wait to see.
By the way did you sort out Robert the Devil the one with the slope and you were waiting for tyres to fit.
Bob

Thanks Bob - you're right, I think I may have made a (coupling) rod for my own back here... ;)

I did sort out Robert the Devil - it was just that the tender top wasn't seated properly. The tyres went on a treat and made such a difference to the performance. Robert is now with his new owner, who (judging by the ebay feedback) is very happy with him! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: ijmsmith on February 27, 2015, 10:00:55 pm
Fab Class 20! Will this one find its way onto eBay in the near future? My PayPal account is already straining at the leash for this one… ;D
A bit more work on my various projects...

The London Underground class 20 nears completion - just needs a coat of varnish now:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21801.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21801[/url])



A Jinty in new red BR livery getting some lining:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21803.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21803[/url])



Nigel's New Nose is finished! Only... it's not Nigel any more. This is going to be Mallard in her E22 British Railways livery:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21805.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21805[/url])


The nose repair from the inside - pretty pleased with the way it's come out, considering the massive damage that was there. Just got to make the insides work now - and given that some of the wheels are loose on the axles, this could be a challenge...!  :-:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21806.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21806[/url])
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 28, 2015, 12:33:19 am
Fab Class 20! Will this one find its way onto eBay in the near future? My PayPal account is already straining at the leash for this one… ;D

Thanks!:) yes, this will be on eBay very soon - just did the last coat of varnish and l'll give her a test run tomorrow - then she's up for grabs! I'll let you know when I start the auction.


A bit more work on my various projects...

The London Underground class 20 nears completion - just needs a coat of varnish now:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21801.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21801[/url])



A Jinty in new red BR livery getting some lining:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21803.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21803[/url])



Nigel's New Nose is finished! Only... it's not Nigel any more. This is going to be Mallard in her E22 British Railways livery:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21805.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21805[/url])


The nose repair from the inside - pretty pleased with the way it's come out, considering the massive damage that was there. Just got to make the insides work now - and given that some of the wheels are loose on the axles, this could be a challenge...!  :-:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/31/thumb_21806.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21806[/url])

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Jim Martin on March 01, 2015, 02:46:03 pm
Call me sad, but few things in life engender as much joy as receiving a package of scrap/spares locos bought cheaply off ebay to discover that all the motors work!

Anyone any ideas as to what this, er, concoction on an Atlas chassis might be...? It looks perfectly salvageable, but I don't know what to restore it back to...! :confused1:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22067.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22067[/url])

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22066.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22066[/url])

My first thought was someone had tried to create a Riddle Standard 6, or maybe a Britannia-ish?


Judging from the general shape of the boiler and the way the cab sits, and especially from the tender bogies, I'm pretty sure that this started out as one of these: http://www.spookshow.net/loco/riv462.html (http://www.spookshow.net/loco/riv462.html)

It's an American prototype and to be fair, whoever set out to rebuild it made some pretty impressive progress in transforming it, although I wouldn't want to guess what into.

Jim
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 02, 2015, 12:24:26 pm
A couple of (finally!) completed projects:

A Deltic masquerading as the DP2 (I know, I know, the roof's all wrong and the vents aren't right, but I like the livery and it's a bit different..!)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22256.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22256)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22257.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22257)



The LU Class 20 is also done. Rather pleased with this one - it looks good and when it runs it makes a deliciously "dieselly" growly engine note! :)


Both these locos will be up for sale on ebay shortly - I have to pay my Railmatch paint/Fox transfers bills somehow! ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22258.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22258)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22259.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22259)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 02, 2015, 12:31:56 pm
Call me sad, but few things in life engender as much joy as receiving a package of scrap/spares locos bought cheaply off ebay to discover that all the motors work!

Anyone any ideas as to what this, er, concoction on an Atlas chassis might be...? It looks perfectly salvageable, but I don't know what to restore it back to...! :confused1:


My first thought was someone had tried to create a Riddle Standard 6, or maybe a Britannia-ish?


Judging from the general shape of the boiler and the way the cab sits, and especially from the tender bogies, I'm pretty sure that this started out as one of these: [url]http://www.spookshow.net/loco/riv462.html[/url] ([url]http://www.spookshow.net/loco/riv462.html[/url])

It's an American prototype and to be fair, whoever set out to rebuild it made some pretty impressive progress in transforming it, although I wouldn't want to guess what into.

Jim


Thanks Jim - I think you're absolutely right! I think someone must have been trying to "Britishify" it. Once I've mended the rotten chassis I'll strip the body, give it a new cab and keep the British look. It won't be a "real" loco, but it will look beautiful! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Jim Martin on March 02, 2015, 08:27:33 pm
You're welcome. This is a great thread, by the way. I discovered it yesterday morning and read the whole thing in one go. I've often been tempted by those "spares or repair" lots on eBay but I don't have time for the models I want for myself, let alone anything else. You've done some smashing work, though.

Jim
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 03, 2015, 10:39:43 am
More on the go...

On the right, Dan's 56 gets its red stripe - on the left, a Lima 86 (that was hideously painted!) gets a strip-down. This is going to be re-liveried in InterCity colours - "Airey Neave", I think. I've got a Dapol pantograph which I'll fit to this.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22323.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22323)



Another one done - my InterCity 33 now has buffers. First time I've ever done a stripey loco - quite pleased with the result:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22322.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22322)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22321.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22321)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on March 03, 2015, 10:40:46 am
Nice work as always, I do like the LU class 20... if only I had time to do stuff like this!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on March 03, 2015, 03:29:33 pm
Nice work as always, I do like the LU class 20... if only I had time to do stuff like this!

That's exactly how I feel! If only I had the time ... hmmm, well, I do have the time, the skill is another matter entirely.

Great work Oz. I haven't commented much on the subject this past week, but I'm always lurking in the background, watching your good work. That LU class 20 will fetch a tidy packet I believe. I don't know your circumstances or preferences, but this really could be a nice little side line for you.

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 03, 2015, 03:40:20 pm
Nice work as always, I do like the LU class 20... if only I had time to do stuff like this!

That's exactly how I feel! If only I had the time ... hmmm, well, I do have the time, the skill is another matter entirely.

Great work Oz. I haven't commented much on the subject this past week, but I'm always lurking in the background, watching your good work. That LU class 20 will fetch a tidy packet I believe. I don't know your circumstances or preferences, but this really could be a nice little side line for you.

Dan

Thanks Dan! It's just something I do in the evenings once the kids have gone to bed to keep myself sane, but I do really enjoy it! :)

Your 47 and 56 are getting there... not long before gloss varnishing and decals! I'm actually beginning to rather like diesels...  :goggleeyes:   ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 04, 2015, 10:16:30 am
"Look on my works, Ye Mighty, and despair..."

A couple of my rather more challenging projects...

The mysterious 4-6-2 "Concoction" has been stripped, revealing much bodgery. The cab needs completely rebuilding, those deflectors tidying up and the smokebox door re-making/replacing. Amongst many other things! Here it is next to a rather sad-looking Hymek white metal body, also just stripped:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22385.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22385)



Here is the chassis of the  "Concoction" - it's in a terrible way! The metal has started to crumble and split. This is fixable, but a messy and tricky job:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22386.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22386)



The Arnold chassis of the Hymek is really, really jiggered. Not sure what I'm going to do about this, but it's going to involve glue and lots of swearing:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22387.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22387)


"Round the decay of that colossal wreck..."  ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on March 04, 2015, 12:06:57 pm
 What is that lump of metal supposed to be? Surely not a train!

Looks like it's been in an accident if it is.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Only Me on March 04, 2015, 12:14:10 pm

The Arnold chassis of the Hymek is really, really jiggered. Not sure what I'm going to do about this, but it's going to involve glue and lots of swearing:


Ha lol.... I bought a Dapol one from ROS and when I took the body off the Dapol chassis looked like that!!! Happy Man I was not.... considering the listing said "Body Slightly Loose on Chassis" ..... Translated to chassis is  :censored: but we'll still try and charge you the earth for it!!!... Had to mill two new ends and get out my brazing wire!!  ... In the end after much back and forth conversations they refunded half the value...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 04, 2015, 12:25:25 pm
What is that lump of metal supposed to be? Surely not a train!

Looks like it's been in an accident if it is.

I think it might have been in several!! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 04, 2015, 12:26:20 pm

The Arnold chassis of the Hymek is really, really jiggered. Not sure what I'm going to do about this, but it's going to involve glue and lots of swearing:


Ha lol.... I bought a Dapol one from ROS and when I took the body off the Dapol chassis looked like that!!! Happy Man I was not.... considering the listing said "Body Slightly Loose on Chassis" ..... Translated to chassis is  :censored: but we'll still try and charge you the earth for it!!!... Had to mill two new ends and get out my brazing wire!!  ... In the end after much back and forth conversations they refunded half the value...

How did you fix it...?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on March 04, 2015, 12:34:36 pm
I'm afraid to admit but both of those would go in the scrap bin no chance of me fixing them ,I can't wait to see your progress on these two ,you sure are a glutton for punishment. I just don't believe you will ever get a good result out of them but if anyone can it's got to be you.
Please make sure you post pictures of each stage of the resurrection.
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Only Me on March 04, 2015, 12:47:20 pm
I got two pieces of metal, milled out new ends and then brazed them together and then ground the lot back to a usable frame... Would I do it again?

NO !!!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 05, 2015, 10:46:16 am
The "Concoction" has now been stripped further - still a good deal of fiddly work with pins and scalpel blades to winkle out the remaining paint and glue, but it's looking much better. No, really, it is.

The cab will be replaced with something a bit more British - Ive got a couple of old white metal ones kicking about that will do the job. It's amazing how much better these things look after a coat of primer...   :uneasy:

The chassis has been liberally slopped with 2 part metal glue (wonderful, if smelly and sticky stuff!) to try and stop the crumbly rot. A judicious filing-down will get it smooth and the adhesive will hold it together and act as filler. Hopefully.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22431.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22431)


At the slightly more presentable end of the scale, the 56 and 47 get closer to their final look, and a ghostly 86 has been primered and filled ready to become "Peter Pan" (not Airey Neave any more because Fox Transfers don't have that nameplate in stock...!) ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22433.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22433)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on March 05, 2015, 10:52:44 am
For a moment there Oz, I thought my class 56 was in levitation!

Interesting work you have to do on the "train wreck". You mention picking out old paint. I was just wondering, is there any way you can drop the bodies in some kind of bath to strip the paint?

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on March 05, 2015, 10:59:56 am
bit of a curveball for your new monstrosity... 

Why not something like this... a bit of butchery to the tender, 'G1' people (1/32, scalextric sized) and you will have a convincing 'miniature' locomotive...

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1854197 (http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1854197)

Steve
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 05, 2015, 11:17:57 am
For a moment there Oz, I thought my class 56 was in levitation!

Interesting work you have to do on the "train wreck". You mention picking out old paint. I was just wondering, is there any way you can drop the bodies in some kind of bath to strip the paint?

Dan

Dan, there probably is - but I'm always wary of paint stripper and plastic bodies (have a guess why that is...!) ;-)

I wouldn't have a problem with dunking a metal body, but some plastic ones (especially the "soft" plastic used in some of the more recent Farish locos) will melt if you so much as waft cellulose thinner at them, let alone paint stripper!!

I generally brush on a coat of Homebase own brand stripper (less harsh than Nitromors and the like) and then, if it's started to lift after about five minutes, smother it in cream kitchen cleaner and toothbrush it off. If that doesn't shift it I just repeat until it does, and then give the result a going over with a pin or cocktail stick to clear holes/nooks/crannies.

Fear not about the floating 56 - it will be weighed down with varnish and decals shortly...! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 05, 2015, 11:22:52 am
bit of a curveball for your new monstrosity... 

Why not something like this... a bit of butchery to the tender, 'G1' people (1/32, scalextric sized) and you will have a convincing 'miniature' locomotive...

[url]http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1854197[/url] ([url]http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1854197[/url])

Steve


That's an interesting idea, Steve, I like it - it'd be like the Romney Hythe & Dymchurch (been on that a few times!!) But would an O or 1/32 scale modeller want a working N Gauge loco? Do people mix scales like that on layouts?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on March 05, 2015, 11:45:10 am
Ah - silly me, I did have metal bodies in mind when thinking of "the dunk", just I didn't articulate it in words. Yes, I completely agree that plastic and stripper don't mix. Also, if you have a method that works well for plastic (as you do), why change it for metal bodies?

RH&DR - a fantastic little railway that I grew up with. It will always hold a special place in my heart that one.

For a moment there Oz, I thought my class 56 was in levitation!

Interesting work you have to do on the "train wreck". You mention picking out old paint. I was just wondering, is there any way you can drop the bodies in some kind of bath to strip the paint?

Dan

Dan, there probably is - but I'm always wary of paint stripper and plastic bodies (have a guess why that is...!) ;-)

I wouldn't have a problem with dunking a metal body, but some plastic ones (especially the "soft" plastic used in some of the more recent Farish locos) will melt if you so much as waft cellulose thinner at them, let alone paint stripper!!

I generally brush on a coat of Homebase own brand stripper (less harsh than Nitromors and the like) and then, if it's started to lift after about five minutes, smother it in cream kitchen cleaner and toothbrush it off. If that doesn't shift it I just repeat until it does, and then give the result a going over with a pin or cocktail stick to clear holes/nooks/crannies.

Fear not about the floating 56 - it will be weighed down with varnish and decals shortly...! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on March 05, 2015, 12:08:56 pm
bit of a curveball for your new monstrosity... 

Why not something like this... a bit of butchery to the tender, 'G1' people (1/32, scalextric sized) and you will have a convincing 'miniature' locomotive...

[url]http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1854197[/url] ([url]http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1854197[/url])

Steve


That's an interesting idea, Steve, I like it - it'd be like the Romney Hythe & Dymchurch (been on that a few times!!) But would an O or 1/32 scale modeller want a working N Gauge loco? Do people mix scales like that on layouts?


Its something I've been toying with for a while, I have done my homework...
N gauge loco's/9mm gauge, with 0 gauge (7mm/foot) works out to be 15inch gauge - Romney sized.
N gauge Loco's/9mm gauge with G1, (10mm/foot) works out to be approx 10.25 inch which is my area of interest and the picture above.

A nice example of 09 (7mm/foot, 9mm track) is 'shifting sands' there are a few 09 layouts out there but I havene never seen one in '1' 9...

http://o9modeller.blogspot.co.uk/p/or-notes-from-enthusiastsdiary.html (http://o9modeller.blogspot.co.uk/p/or-notes-from-enthusiastsdiary.html)

and yes, I might be interested in the loco....
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 06, 2015, 11:30:21 am
Finally got round to finishing this one...

When I bought this little V170 (ages ago), it had been given a BR blue paint job with yellow ends. It looked like the paint had been applied with a hose, by a three-year-old.

I felt sorry for it, so I stripped it and gave it this Hungarian orange livery.

It'll never be the pride of anyone's collection, I suspect, but I can put it on ebay knowing that it has had a little love and attention... ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22473.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22473)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22472.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22472)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 11, 2015, 10:11:59 am
A few more on the go at the moment:


No prizes for what this is going to be...! That lettering took ages:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22650.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22650)



Dan's 47 and 56 - painting finished, now need to do varnishing and decals:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22651.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22651)




Sir Nigel of the Broken Nose completes his transformation into the Mallard:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22653.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22653)




A re-sprayed Ivatt - probably not historically accurate, but I love the colour!:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22654.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22654)



The B12 with shiny new valves and whistle. A bit of mucking around with the draw-bar to do to stop it lifting the tail-end of the loco off the rails and we're done:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22655.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22655)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on March 13, 2015, 06:57:28 pm
Stupendous Sir Mandias of Oz! I like the Mallard very much (after the 47 and 56 you understand)  ;D

That orange Hungarian thingy - is there an ebay Hungary? Then it really WOULD be somebody's pride and joy.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 16, 2015, 10:39:07 am
Another one finished!

I'm pleased with this one - not just because I really like the livery, but because I've got the motor and gear working well (they had half a carpet in them!)

She's now on ebay - I was tempted to keep her but I have a non-N Gauge toy I have my eye on which I am saving for...  :heart2:


I'd be interested on views about the livery - I'm not sure it's historically accurate, but I like it! ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22956.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22956)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on March 16, 2015, 10:52:08 am
I'd be interested on views about the livery - I'm not sure it's historically accurate, but I like it! ;)

The Ivatts were pretty late on LMS production and therefore only came in LMS black prior to BR black.

But rule 1 and all that....  ;)

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Roy L S on March 16, 2015, 10:52:24 am
Not prototypical in LMS or BR service but I think (if memory serves) one may have worn a lined maroon livery in early preservation days on the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway..

Edit: -

In fact it was 41241, in a fictitious K&WVR livery. Bachmann even did a model of it!

http://www.thelocoshedmcr.co.uk/product.php/6204601/ (http://www.thelocoshedmcr.co.uk/product.php/6204601/)

Roy
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 16, 2015, 10:57:51 am
Not prototypical in LMS or BR service but I think (if memory serves) one may have worn a lined maroon livery in early preservation days on the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway..

Roy

It did indeed - which is where I got the idea for this one! :) I couldn't find a convincing way of doing the KWVR lettering or crest, though, so I decided to go LMS.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on March 17, 2015, 09:14:58 am
Here she is, with chassis for the first time. Will be going on holiday to join Callums fleet on Apa Park and Apagele shortly as I am having a little GWR interlude. Normal service will be resumed as soon as I have worked the 14XXs out of my system

Fantastic job and really looks the part. 

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/16221976513_dbd70ec31c_c.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevepurves/16221976513/)
Repainted 31 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevepurves/16221976513/) by Steve Purves (https://www.flickr.com/people/stevepurves/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7655/16655790019_3fc5cef9c6_c.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevepurves/16655790019/)
Repainted 31 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevepurves/16655790019/) by Steve Purves (https://www.flickr.com/people/stevepurves/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 17, 2015, 09:19:33 am
Here she is, with chassis for the first time. Will be going on holiday to join Callums fleet on Apa Park and Apagele shortly as I am having a little GWR interlude. Normal service will be resumed as soon as I have worked the 14XXs out of my system

Fantastic job and really looks the part. 

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/16221976513_dbd70ec31c_c.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevepurves/16221976513/)
Repainted 31 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevepurves/16221976513/) by Steve Purves (https://www.flickr.com/people/stevepurves/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7655/16655790019_3fc5cef9c6_c.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevepurves/16655790019/)
Repainted 31 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevepurves/16655790019/) by Steve Purves (https://www.flickr.com/people/stevepurves/), on Flickr

Oh, wow! She looks great with the chassis on! :) I'm delighted that you're pleased with her. I could get to quite like these stripey diesels...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on March 17, 2015, 09:23:28 am
Oh, wow! She looks great with the chassis on! :) I'm delighted that you're pleased with her. I could get to quite like these stripey diesels...

Yeah, it looks fantastic. Callum has all my other intercity stuff at the minute so will post some pictures of it on some stock when we get chance. Class 31's are one of my favourites, and there were many liveries that were never released leaving plenty of scope for repaints. I did a triple grey one myself but just never got round to doing an Intercity one.

Top marks good sir!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 17, 2015, 11:47:14 am
I've got a couple of Lima 31s that need repainting and sorting internally - I think I'm going to do one in the "Golden Ochre" scheme, it looks rather nice. And perhaps a West Coast one...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Papyrus on March 17, 2015, 11:52:59 am
You mention picking out old paint. I was just wondering, is there any way you can drop the bodies in some kind of bath to strip the paint?
Dan

20 years or so ago, I used to use brake fluid which takes quite a time to work, but is kind to the loco. From memory, I'm pretty sure it didn't rot plastic, but I would try it on something you didn't mind losing first. I can't speak from recent experience as I haven't done any re-liveries since coming back into the hobby.

Hope this helps.

Chris
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 18, 2015, 02:46:40 pm
A slightly unfortunate discovery... I just bought some Farish Fairburn tank 2-6-4T wheels and bogies, imagining that they'd fit the standard Farish chassis/worm drive arrangement.

But they don't...

They have no drive cog on the centre wheel, just two squarish washers on each axle. Can anyone explain to me how these locos are driven? With pics woudl be even better! :-)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on March 18, 2015, 04:17:18 pm
A slightly unfortunate discovery... I just bought some Farish Fairburn tank 2-6-4T wheels and bogies, imagining that they'd fit the standard Farish chassis/worm drive arrangement.

But they don't...

They have no drive cog on the centre wheel, just two squarish washers on each axle. Can anyone explain to me how these locos are driven? With pics woudl be even better! :-)

The new tool recent Farish runs on Phosphor pickup bearings that locate into slots in the chassis. These wheelsets therefore can't (easily) be dropped straight into an older style chassis that just has slots for the axles.

The Fairburn should have a drive gear on the middle axle, but I suspect the previous owner has likely removed it if these were taken off for a 2mm FS conversion. The gear won't be the same as old Farish either though.

HTH,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 18, 2015, 04:29:58 pm
A slightly unfortunate discovery... I just bought some Farish Fairburn tank 2-6-4T wheels and bogies, imagining that they'd fit the standard Farish chassis/worm drive arrangement.

But they don't...

They have no drive cog on the centre wheel, just two squarish washers on each axle. Can anyone explain to me how these locos are driven? With pics woudl be even better! :-)



The new tool recent Farish runs on Phosphor pickup bearings that locate into slots in the chassis. These wheelsets therefore can't (easily) be dropped straight into an older style chassis that just has slots for the axles.

The Fairburn should have a drive gear on the middle axle, but I suspect the previous owner has likely removed it if these were taken off for a 2mm FS conversion. The gear won't be the same as old Farish either though.

HTH,
Alan


Thanks Alan - a bit of a duff purchase on my side, then...!  :doh:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 19, 2015, 04:18:43 pm
Next livery quandary... Sir Nigel of the Broken Nose has become Mallard in E22 livery, so the Mallard has to become Sir Nigel.

But Sir Nigel in which livery? I want to do something a bit different, so what do people reckon: wartime black, early BR blue or late BR brunswick green...?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on March 19, 2015, 05:13:19 pm
But Sir Nigel in which livery? I want to do something a bit different, so what do people reckon: wartime black, early BR blue or late BR brunswick green...?

Early BR Blue, definitely  :)

Cheers,
Alan

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Tony G on March 19, 2015, 09:37:17 pm
But Sir Nigel in which livery? I want to do something a bit different, so what do people reckon: wartime black, early BR blue or late BR brunswick green...?

Early BR Blue, definitely  :)

Cheers,
Alan

For Sir nigel I would agree with Early BR Blue. for a future A4 project, the purple livery would be interesting but it would need skirts. No it's not purple it would actually be Aqua marine blue but is known as the purple livery LOL!  :D

Regards

Tony
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 20, 2015, 10:33:47 am
But Sir Nigel in which livery? I want to do something a bit different, so what do people reckon: wartime black, early BR blue or late BR brunswick green...?

Early BR Blue, definitely  :)

Cheers,
Alan

For Sir nigel I would agree with Early BR Blue. for a future A4 project, the purple livery would be interesting but it would need skirts. No it's not purple it would actually be Aqua marine blue but is known as the purple livery LOL!  :D

Regards

Tony

OK, well that's that decision made... early BR blue it is! Thanks guys! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 30, 2015, 10:25:23 am
Christmas just came early - I've been given - given - a new "test track"...!  :D

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In other news... the "Polar Express" is now finished and running (and on ebay!!)

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on March 30, 2015, 10:33:27 am
 :toot: :toot: :toot:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 31, 2015, 01:35:59 pm
Nothing to do with N Gauge, I know, but I mentioned earlier that I was saving the money I made from restored loco sales for a non-N Gauge toy.

And here it is:

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It sounds as good as it looks... :claphappy:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on March 31, 2015, 01:47:02 pm
Looks like this is your lucky year what with your new test track and now your latest purchase let's hope it continues.
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: keerout on March 31, 2015, 01:47:35 pm
Rock on!  8)
Gerard
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: scotsoft on March 31, 2015, 04:17:30 pm
Very nice indeed  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on April 01, 2015, 10:59:01 pm
I have just found in one of many endless boxes an old farish class 5 chassis that is minus all its motion, the question if can I use this chassis for anything (I only model pre-BR LMS) or should I throw this chassis to the bin of doom?????? :doh:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on April 01, 2015, 11:27:39 pm
I have just found in one of many endless boxes an old farish class 5 chassis that is minus all its motion, the question if can I use this chassis for anything (I only model pre-BR LMS) or should I throw this chassis to the bin of doom?????? :doh:

Don't throw it out Paul, unless the "Bin of Doom" is a mate / ebay / your local club etc.  ;D

I'm no expert on steam so cannot advise. If you're after new connecting rods etc. then you can get all that from BR Lines. Question is, is it worth spending the money on?

Definitely not a bin contestant though (value in the motor and some other bits).

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on April 01, 2015, 11:38:43 pm
Reattaching motion to the original Farish models is not so simple - it's only attached via heat moulded central crank pin to the central drivers - if it's off the centre driver then you'd need to check the condition of the plastic crank pin that's moulded integral to the wheel - if it's lost too much when the original motion was pulled off then there's not a simple way to reattach motion as there isn't enough to re-mould or attach to.

In this case it's easier to just buy a new central driver with all motion attached. BR Lines sell these, but I'm not sure that they sell anything else in terms of separate motion components.

Failing all that it's an ideal 0-6-0 chassis for a multitude of kits, or scratchbuilding. Or cannabalise for spares.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 01, 2015, 11:40:28 pm
I have just found in one of many endless boxes an old farish class 5 chassis that is minus all its motion, the question if can I use this chassis for anything (I only model pre-BR LMS) or should I throw this chassis to the bin of doom?????? :doh:

Don't throw it out Paul, unless the "Bin of Doom" is a mate / ebay / your local club etc.  ;D

I'm no expert on steam so cannot advise. If you're after new connecting rods etc. then you can get all that from BR Lines. Question is, is it worth spending the money on?

Definitely not a bin contestant though (value in the motor and some other bits).

Dan

Dan's right, somebody will have a use for it. Me, for a start...!! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on April 02, 2015, 06:48:10 am
Reattaching motion to the original Farish models is not so simple - it's only attached via heat moulded central crank pin to the central drivers - if it's off the centre driver then you'd need to check the condition of the plastic crank pin that's moulded integral to the wheel - if it's lost too much when the original motion was pulled off then there's not a simple way to reattach motion as there isn't enough to re-mould or attach to.

In this case it's easier to just buy a new central driver with all motion attached. BR Lines sell these, but I'm not sure that they sell anything else in terms of separate motion components.

Failing all that it's an ideal 0-6-0 chassis for a multitude of kits, or scratchbuilding. Or cannabalise for spares.

Cheers,
Alan

Alan

There appears to be a little of the plastic left on the center drivers so I may be able to attach the side rods with the aid of my soldering iron.

Apart from that it looks like its had "improvement" treatement" from one of my brothers, who in his younger days thought destroying anything of mine was a definite improvement.

I just need to figure out what I can create with it
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 02, 2015, 09:02:01 am
Reattaching motion to the original Farish models is not so simple - it's only attached via heat moulded central crank pin to the central drivers - if it's off the centre driver then you'd need to check the condition of the plastic crank pin that's moulded integral to the wheel - if it's lost too much when the original motion was pulled off then there's not a simple way to reattach motion as there isn't enough to re-mould or attach to.

In this case it's easier to just buy a new central driver with all motion attached. BR Lines sell these, but I'm not sure that they sell anything else in terms of separate motion components.

Failing all that it's an ideal 0-6-0 chassis for a multitude of kits, or scratchbuilding. Or cannabalise for spares.

Cheers,
Alan

Alan

There appears to be a little of the plastic left on the center drivers so I may be able to attach the side rods with the aid of my soldering iron.

Apart from that it looks like its had "improvement" treatement" from one of my brothers, who in his younger days thought destroying anything of mine was a definite improvement.

I just need to figure out what I can create with it

How about drilling a hole into the plastic stub and using a fine cut-off nail with some glue to hold the gear on? I've done this with a broken Fleischmann in the past and it's worked well.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 08, 2015, 10:14:34 am
Another one finished and up for sale - class 42 Warship D826 "Jupiter":


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Dan's Diesels get ever closer to completion - just the numbering and a couple of details to go on the 56 now (Dan, if you want anything changed, now's the time to scream before the varnish goes on!!) ;)

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Plenty more on the workbench, so updates soon!



Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on April 11, 2015, 10:18:44 pm
Oz ... sorry, other things have been getting in the way trains lately, hence the absence.

They look stupendous to me Sir! With your good skills I shall not be making any last minute changes,

These two bodies shall be most treasured!

Best

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 12, 2015, 09:08:19 pm
Quote
Nothing to do with N Gauge, I know, but I mentioned earlier that I was saving the money I made from restored loco sales for a non-N Gauge toy.

If you are not a fan then this will seem like total gibberish to you sir, but I saw that photo and just had to say:

"Amazing, doesn't even need tuning"

Series 6, "Legion"

 ;)

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 14, 2015, 09:34:18 am
I've finally, finally finished the B12! This started black and featureless but now has a handrail and nice shiny valves courtesy of NBrass. Quite proud of the lining on this one:


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Here's a little Minitrix 0-6-0 just out of the paint shop. It goes like a rocket!:


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Both are for sale and will be on ebay shortly...



Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 14, 2015, 10:15:19 am
Wow - over 10,000 views of my thread!!

Thanks for looking, everyone. :)

 :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on April 14, 2015, 10:26:03 am
Very nice indeed Sir!

As for 10 gazillion views - you deserve it. I take my hat off to you.

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on April 14, 2015, 10:50:32 am
That Minitrix fits an ABS Beaver kit, GWR 1366 tank; under rule 1 I finished mine in SR Maunsell green

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Could stand a repaint and a better lining job
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 14, 2015, 11:02:15 am


Could stand a repaint and a better lining job

I'm open to commissions... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on April 14, 2015, 11:21:23 am


Could stand a repaint and a better lining job

I'm open to commissions... ;)

Oh - you take commissions on your "commissions"!

What's your percentage? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on April 14, 2015, 02:51:27 pm
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Another very nice paint job, just wondering if there was a reason for leaving off the cab handrails?

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 14, 2015, 03:01:31 pm
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Another very nice paint job, just wondering if there was a reason for leaving off the cab handrails?

Cheers,
Alan

I, um, er, hurrrmph, forgot...! :doh:

I might pop some on tonight.  :-[
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Only Me on April 14, 2015, 03:39:03 pm
Half a commission then eh ;)

fnaw fnaw.... :)

Do you think you could repaint a Blue Pullman to 1970's WR colours for me, if so drop me a PM with the cost...
Thanks Paul.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 15, 2015, 11:52:26 am
New improved B12 with added cab rails - thanks for pointing out that omission, Alan! :)

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 17, 2015, 12:47:01 pm
Curses.

A lesson learned the hard way - if you leave a Minitirix A4 body in brake fluid too long (to strip the paint) it WILL soften the plastic body sufficiently that it will score easily when scraping the paint off... :doh:

A little filler should rescue this particular one, but you have been warned!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on April 17, 2015, 02:03:12 pm
A lesson learned the hard way - if you leave a Minitirix A4 body in brake fluid too long (to strip the paint) it WILL soften the plastic body

Out of interest has it regained its stiffness after being removed from the brake fluid?

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 17, 2015, 02:08:28 pm
A lesson learned the hard way - if you leave a Minitirix A4 body in brake fluid too long (to strip the paint) it WILL soften the plastic body

Out of interest has it regained its stiffness after being removed from the brake fluid?

Cheers,
Alan

Yes, it has - I left it to soak in cold soapy water for a day, rinsed it off and it's just like it was before - just with scratches in it!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 21, 2015, 09:49:53 am
Couple of updates...

Sir Nigel has been filled, primered and painted after his little accident in the stripping department - looking loads better but still needs another sand to take out some fingerprints and rough patches - pics to follow.

Woe beset the house of Ozymandias last night - I'd just dismantled, fixed and serviced an Atlas US 0-8-0 tender loco and got it running sweetly... and then the motor decided to throw a commutator plate. Motor is jiggered and I don't have any other Atlas armatures that will fit this particular model.  :censored:

On a happier note - lining is finally being applied to the E5 I've had for ages and not got round to looking at:

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And Dan's Diesels are getting dangerously close to being finished!! A touch-up and a final varnish and we're there...:

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More soon...!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 22, 2015, 09:36:02 am
I may yet be able to save that Atlas with the blown motor... I have another motor with a shorter armature shaft. I've found that Atlas worm drives have one "grippy" end, so if I turn the worm drive round so the grippy end is on first it gives me an extra 5mm or so of length - hopefully enough to reach the drive cog.

I love it when a flukey bodge plan comes together...! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 23, 2015, 09:33:20 am
More projects on the production line...

Sir Nigel in his BR Blue livery, with black bits painted; a LIMA class 31 being re-liveried in "golden ochre"; a VERY naked Peco Jubilee prepares for re-assembly and primer; the E5, which I've taken the lining off because the white lines were too thick - I'm going to re-try with white-black-white lining and then go over one of the whites to get finer lines; a Warship mid-paint:

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A Bachmann US loco sanded, primered, painted and re-numbered; and last but very definitely not least, Dan's Diesels nearing completion!:


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There are others that didn't make this evening's photo-shoot - they will have their moment of fame shortly...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on April 23, 2015, 12:00:21 pm
What livery are you going to paint the Jube into, please say MAROON
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 23, 2015, 12:04:02 pm
What livery are you going to paint the Jube into, please say MAROON

Well I've got a couple to do - one is definitely going to be LMS crimson, I might well go maroon with the other! Both will be for sale...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on April 23, 2015, 12:08:55 pm
What livery are you going to paint the Jube into, please say MAROON

Well I've got a couple to do - one is definitely going to be LMS crimson, I might well go maroon with the other! Both will be for sale...

Well as a die hard LMS fan Crimson is the way to go, though I kind of like the LMS black livery....up for sale you say......I wonder if a chap can have too many Jubes?

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bealman on April 23, 2015, 12:10:41 pm
I have a Peco Jubilee that I persuaded a friend to paint over the maroon and make it green... (actually, he didn't.... painted over a black body and kept the maroon one).
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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on April 23, 2015, 12:13:37 pm
I did one in weathered BR green a good few years ago, still part of the fleet despite having a brace of newer Farish jubs.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/68426125@N07/8622000460/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/68426125@N07/8622000460/)

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on April 23, 2015, 12:13:57 pm
I must admit I have a bit of a soft spot for the old Peco Jubilee's even with simplified running gear, they must be nearly as old as me by now
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 23, 2015, 12:40:15 pm
What livery are you going to paint the Jube into, please say MAROON

Well I've got a couple to do - one is definitely going to be LMS crimson, I might well go maroon with the other! Both will be for sale...

Well as a die hard LMS fan Crimson is the way to go, though I kind of like the LMS black livery....up for sale you say......I wonder if a chap can have too many Jubes?

You can never have too many Jubes. I've actually got five that I am restoring - two in good repair, just need a repaint, two in need of repair and one, erm, in need of a lot of love. So I could feasibly recreate every livery! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Only Me on April 23, 2015, 12:44:48 pm
Kettles pah!!!!

;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on April 23, 2015, 01:46:31 pm
I have quite a few Jube bodies and tenders  going spare, I only use the loco chassis, they fit under the BHE N15 kit with a UM drive  (additional axle added for 8 wheel tender.

As I am still unpacking after moving I haven't got down to the box with my spares and bits box as yet.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on April 23, 2015, 04:34:43 pm
Kettles pah!!!!

;)

Get back to your fish fat fryers, you :P
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on April 23, 2015, 06:49:10 pm
Save oil ... ... bring back steam.

You can keep some suburban commuter electrics but get rid pf the smelly diseasels except maybe a few shunters.

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 27, 2015, 10:17:40 am
A few more on the go...


Repainted German Arnold 2-6-4:

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A re-painted USRA Bachmann gets a new tender:

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Finally finished Dan's Diesels!!:

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A naked J39 awaits some primer:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on April 27, 2015, 11:37:26 am
Where do you find all the time? I'm jealous,
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 27, 2015, 11:44:06 am
Where do you find all the time? I'm jealous,

Late at night when the kids and SWMBO are tucked up in bed... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on April 27, 2015, 02:25:53 pm
I thought I was the only one who did that, not so much of a secret lemonade drinker as a secret LMS builder......

I think I need to sit down in a dark room for a bit
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 27, 2015, 02:29:48 pm
I thought I was the only one who did that, not so much of a secret lemonade drinker as a secret LMS builder......

I think I need to sit down in a dark room for a bit

You are not alone, Paul... and I bet we're not the only ones!! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on April 27, 2015, 02:35:48 pm
I even sneak stuff to work, so when I get the odd 5 minutes I can get a little modelling done. I wonder if I could sneak my layout to work?????
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 27, 2015, 03:48:01 pm
I've got a rather shabby Windsor Castle that needs a repaint. I quite like the look of this as a new livery:

http://wrennmodelrailways.com/wrenn-w2223-4-6-0-castle-class-named-windsor-castle-br-blue-livery-locomotive-471.html (http://wrennmodelrailways.com/wrenn-w2223-4-6-0-castle-class-named-windsor-castle-br-blue-livery-locomotive-471.html)

But is that blue too light (i.e., garter blue rather than BR steam blue)?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on April 27, 2015, 04:34:54 pm
The blue BR applied to its steam locomotives was quite a light shade according to the info I have read which may explain why it was not very long lived, as it must have been a nightmare in service.

I actually quite like it though
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on April 28, 2015, 12:52:09 am
I've got a rather shabby Windsor Castle that needs a repaint. I quite like the look of this as a new livery:

[url]http://wrennmodelrailways.com/wrenn-w2223-4-6-0-castle-class-named-windsor-castle-br-blue-livery-locomotive-471.html[/url] ([url]http://wrennmodelrailways.com/wrenn-w2223-4-6-0-castle-class-named-windsor-castle-br-blue-livery-locomotive-471.html[/url])

But is that blue too light (i.e., garter blue rather than BR steam blue)?


The BR blue for the Castle was the same as other BR blues, e.g. the A3 you did already. I think Wrenn's rendition of it was a bit too light.

Castle in Blue should look rather sharp though, look forward to seeing that if you go ahead.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 28, 2015, 09:53:57 am
I've got a rather shabby Windsor Castle that needs a repaint. I quite like the look of this as a new livery:

[url]http://wrennmodelrailways.com/wrenn-w2223-4-6-0-castle-class-named-windsor-castle-br-blue-livery-locomotive-471.html[/url] ([url]http://wrennmodelrailways.com/wrenn-w2223-4-6-0-castle-class-named-windsor-castle-br-blue-livery-locomotive-471.html[/url])

But is that blue too light (i.e., garter blue rather than BR steam blue)?


The BR blue for the Castle was the same as other BR blues, e.g. the A3 you did already. I think Wrenn's rendition of it was a bit too light.

Castle in Blue should look rather sharp though, look forward to seeing that if you go ahead.

Cheers,
Alan


Thanks for the input, chaps! I thought Wrenn's blue did look a bit "Thomas the Tank Engine"...! Original BR blue it shall be - I'll post pics on this thread when I start it.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 30, 2015, 09:57:57 am
Bit more work done...


Another Pannier finished (and now on ebay!):

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The golden ochre 31 gets its stripes, and a formerly very tatty Minitrix dock tank has a nice new paint job and LMS livery (needs a satin varnish!):

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The J39, no longer naked - half-way to what will be a very lovely new LNER livery:

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Bit of a disaster with the Peco Jubilees I'd spent ages stripping - I finally primered them last night (red primer - yup, they're going to be maroon!) and they looked perfect. I turned round to paint something else... and knocked them on to the very dusty garage floor.

Paintwork ruined and covered in fluff. They're back in the brake fluid bath... :doh:

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on April 30, 2015, 10:22:43 am
Sorry to hear about the Jubs but you've made a great job of the others. I especially like the class 31 :heart2:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 30, 2015, 10:48:15 am
Sorry to hear about the Jubs but you've made a great job of the others. I especially like the class 31 :heart2:

Thanks, Nobby! The 31 will be for sale once it's done (and once I've got the pesky motor/ chassis to behave nicely!) ;)

The Jubs are perfectly rescue-able, it's just irritating having got them to look so good!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on April 30, 2015, 12:30:10 pm
The dock tank caught my eye, I had one as a child would love one now but I never manage to catch the Fleabay bargains
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 30, 2015, 12:33:01 pm
The dock tank caught my eye, I had one as a child would love one now but I never manage to catch the Fleabay bargains

That'll, um, be on fleabay too when it's done... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on April 30, 2015, 04:16:35 pm
Maybe the two of you could sort a deal out via PM? :hmmm:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 01, 2015, 01:22:52 pm
An interesting discovery amongst a job lot I bought - sadly not one I can do much with, so it's on fleabay...

A rather lovely, if forlorn-looking SNCF loco by Rivarossi. It's missing a whole load of bits (including its tender drive) - if I had the skill to make them, I would, because the full loco is really something.

Sadly not suited to my layout though...

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 01, 2015, 02:09:40 pm
Those Rivarossi NORD pacific tender drives suffer the same problem as Peco Jubs, metal rot, bits fall off, usually round the axle slots. The motor is the same as the Jub but mounted horizontally. I used a couple of the tender drives with Jubilees hacked into Lord Nelsons, when they started falling apart I switched to Minitrix 2077 drives which also had the benefit of fitting the earlier Nelson tenders, the NORDs had to use the later high sided tender.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on May 01, 2015, 03:52:15 pm
A rather lovely, if forlorn-looking SNCF loco by Rivarossi. It's missing a whole load of bits (including its tender drive) - if I had the skill to make them, I would, because the full loco is really something.

Sadly as well as Mike's comments, these often also suffer decomposing magnets in the motors that soften and expand with time, seizing up the motor completely, and is basically impossible to repair. Fortunately this doesn't seem to happen too often with the Peco Jub version of the motor, but it does mean these Nord SNCF locos are fairly rare in good working complete condition!

Cheers
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on May 01, 2015, 04:20:34 pm
I think I have one in the loft with my European stock,,,,,,interesting
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 01, 2015, 04:36:29 pm
My usual reaction to a dead tender drive is to get a U&M one, if you need an 8 wheeler just find a spare pony truck and stick it in front.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on May 02, 2015, 11:41:00 pm
A rather lovely, if forlorn-looking SNCF loco by Rivarossi. It's missing a whole load of bits (including its tender drive) - if I had the skill to make them, I would, because the full loco is really something.

Looking at that, you could move the bogie forwards a little, replace the body and stick a Farish A1 tender drive on the back and you'd have created a pretty good effort at a Thompson A1!  :P
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 08, 2015, 10:19:29 am
Some project updates...

Sir Nigel gets some lining - starting to look rather good, I love this blue. This was the body that got damaged in the stripping process, but some judicious sanding with very fine paper has got rid of the worst of it. It should end up a nice-looking loco:

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The golden ochre 31 is now fully lined out:

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Lining starts on the J39:

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Not N Gauge, but the benefits of living near the Bluebell Railway... my sons with 847 at East Grinstead (we were only meant to be going to Sainsbury's...) ;)

I really must model this loco - does anyone know if it produced as a kit?

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on May 08, 2015, 11:45:25 am
Some project updates...

Sir Nigel gets some lining - starting to look rather good, I love this blue. This was the body that got damaged in the stripping process, but some judicious sanding with very fine paper has got rid of the worst of it. It should end up a nice-looking loco:

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Very nice job - just check that the lining from the boiler bands didn't come over the side footplates (I think it didn't.

Always liked the blue livery, and you've achieved a very nice rendition so far  :thumbsup:

Cheers
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 08, 2015, 12:13:05 pm
Some project updates...

Sir Nigel gets some lining - starting to look rather good, I love this blue. This was the body that got damaged in the stripping process, but some judicious sanding with very fine paper has got rid of the worst of it. It should end up a nice-looking loco:

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Very nice job - just check that the lining from the boiler bands didn't come over the side footplates (I think it didn't.

Always liked the blue livery, and you've achieved a very nice rendition so far  :thumbsup:

Cheers
Alan


Thanks Alan!

I wasn't sure about how far the lining came down - this pic shows it coming down beyond the side of the boiler, but where to stop...?! ;)

http://www.docbrown.info/docspics/nymr/SteamGallery/28aP3312899.jpg (http://www.docbrown.info/docspics/nymr/SteamGallery/28aP3312899.jpg)

I think there should be a thin strip of black running along the top of the footplate, which the lining stops at - which means my curved lining at the front needs re-doing...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on May 08, 2015, 12:16:18 pm
The old Farish model is probably a good guide:

https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/372-351-LN_3079954_Qty1_1.jpg

HTH,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 08, 2015, 12:22:59 pm
847 is a Maunsell S15 class, the closest kit you can get is the Langley S15 which is of the Urie version, differences being cab roof, footplate and tender, prototype pics and data here

http://www.semgonline.com/steam/s15class_1.html (http://www.semgonline.com/steam/s15class_1.html)

Kit made up as supplied on Fleischmann 7161 chassis and tender drive

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Kit modified to Maunsell version, footplate step up over cylinders flattened, new cab roof and BHE tender.

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This one has tender body from the BHE N15 kit (tender available separately)  For tender drive in Maunsell version use either a Minitrix 2077 which is a bit wide for the BHE body, so either a lot of filing or use a Union Mills tender drive with an extra pair of wheels in front, another alternative would be to build a 6 wheel tender body (or hack a Farish 4F one)some of the Maunsell S15s originally ran with a 6 wheel tender on the SR central section as the 8 wheel tender made it too long for the turntables.

The Minitrix 2077 loco chassis has 6' drivers so is suitable for an SR H15 class with a bit of hacking to the motion, use the BHE N15 or Langley S15 +BHE tender kits.

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 08, 2015, 12:47:25 pm
Brilliant, thanks Mike! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 08, 2015, 02:08:38 pm
One thing about the Fleischmann & Minitrix tender drives, with a white metal body they'll out pull just about anything else, mind you the UM drive under white metal don't do too bad either, but put it under a plastic or thin brass body and it's noticeable.

I like the BHE and Langley kits for the N15 and S15, play mix 'n match with them, wish Langley would supply the S15 watercart tender as a separate item, so many of the Drummond locos had them, 4-4-0s, and some of the 700s, inside bearings so no hassle with bogie side frames.

For the Urie and Maunsell 8 wheel tenders a few years back I had some etched bogie side frames made by Alan at Worsley Works, they needed axle boxes of which I've used a few different ones over the years, 2mm assoc, BHE and Etched pixels, some needed  bit of pruning or filing , he also did some coal rails and loco & tender steps, they look much better than the cast white metal ones in some kits. The most awkward part is fitting the bogie side frames, I usually cut a couple of pieces of brass strip and solder to the back of the frame and the inside of the body

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on May 10, 2015, 02:54:59 pm
I need to figure out how to get my chassis for my Ivatt 4 build working properly, its decided after weeks to keep losing the mesh with its gears and just sits there from time to time whirring away AAARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH

The joys of N gauge, I guess when my patience wears so thin I contemplate using my sledge hammer I may send it to BR lines???


HELP HELP HELP
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on May 10, 2015, 05:25:27 pm
HELP HELP HELP

What loco is the chassis from?

Cheers
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on May 10, 2015, 08:35:05 pm
HELP HELP HELP

What loco is the chassis from?

Cheers
Alan

Its from a crab
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on May 10, 2015, 08:41:44 pm
Is the motor runnign and not engaging with wheels? Have you checked that the worm is meshing and the armature housing is secured correctly by the front screw (the one that connects to the top brush wire with a nut securing it?)

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on May 10, 2015, 08:59:02 pm
Is the motor runnign and not engaging with wheels? Have you checked that the worm is meshing and the armature housing is secured correctly by the front screw (the one that connects to the top brush wire with a nut securing it?)

Cheers,
Alan

The motor rums and occasionally engages with the wheels so it does run, the front screw seems to be correctly attached, maybe the keeper plate is slightly bent? For the life of me I just cant seem to win with this one.

I know last time I spoke to BR lines they had a turn around time of about 16 weeks :(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on May 10, 2015, 09:01:49 pm
It may be the keeper plate - turn each of its screws 1/2 turn (loosen) to see if that helps.

Check no valve gear parts are catching (can loosen the nut and bolt screw here and lift the motor a touch so you can turn the wheels freely and check for catching).

Otherwise it could be that it's mashed the drive gear - can you turn it and see if the teeth on the central wheelset are ok?

HTH,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on May 10, 2015, 09:07:52 pm
It may be the keeper plate - turn each of its screws 1/2 turn (loosen) to see if that helps.

Check no valve gear parts are catching (can loosen the nut and bolt screw here and lift the motor a touch so you can turn the wheels freely and check for catching).

Otherwise it could be that it's mashed the drive gear - can you turn it and see if the teeth on the central wheelset are ok?

HTH,
Alan

The valve gear seems to be okay, the gear on the central wheel set seems to be intact, the motor does run hot which it never did before and, then when the chassis decides to stop and the motor whirs away the front wheels seem almost jammed
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on May 10, 2015, 09:12:07 pm
Try not to let the motor get hot (this could kill it) - if testing just do so in short bursts.

When it stops try to rotate the wheels 180 degrees for the point they were at and inspect closely the drive gear on the central wheelset. It's still possible this could have worn a touch (doesn't take much to loose mesh - can sometimes noe even be easy to see).

Can you turn the armature freely by hand? It should be easy - if it's stiff then it could have got hot enough to start deforming one of the bearings and that could then allow it to move out of alignment with the drive gear.

HTH,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on May 10, 2015, 09:31:23 pm
Try not to let the motor get hot (this could kill it) - if testing just do so in short bursts.

When it stops try to rotate the wheels 180 degrees for the point they were at and inspect closely the drive gear on the central wheelset. It's still possible this could have worn a touch (doesn't take much to loose mesh - can sometimes noe even be easy to see).

Can you turn the armature freely by hand? It should be easy - if it's stiff then it could have got hot enough to start deforming one of the bearings and that could then allow it to move out of alignment with the drive gear.

HTH,
Alan

I can turn the armature quite easily, maybe there has been some deforming, it seems to stop at different positions, the motor does not like to run unless it has a bit of a shove, I think this one may be a bit beyond me 
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on May 11, 2015, 12:06:23 am
Is difficult to know what else to suggest without seeing it, but you say the motor is sticky - is this at a particular point of rotation of the armature?

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 18, 2015, 02:52:35 pm
Another day, another box full of spares and repair goodies arrives for fixing up...

But does anyone know what I've bought here - I haven't a clue what this loco is or what it should look like in reality!:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 20, 2015, 10:52:07 am
Seems like no-one knows what my mystery loco is... :( Other clues are that it looks like it had pantographs and was originally orange...


More work done - the Minitrix dock tank is now finished:

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Sir Nigel (now with corrected footplates!), GER 2-6-4 and J39 all progressing with decals:

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I should finish that golden ochre Class 31 tonight - looking forward to seeing that running! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: spiceyart on May 21, 2015, 10:55:39 am
I'm not sure what the model's meant to be of, but judging from the design of the bogies I think it is a Piko one, Hope that helps,

Art

(and I've been watching this thread since before I was a member of NGF and have always thought how amazing it is that you can make out of no-hope locos, often better than they started) :drool:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: railsquid on May 21, 2015, 11:14:23 am
I'm not sure what the model's meant to be of, but judging from the design of the bogies I think it is a Piko one, Hope that helps,

That was my first thought, but while I can't claim to be an expert, it's not one I've seen before, and the locomotive type isn't anything like I've ever seen.

Any chance of a picture of the underside?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 21, 2015, 11:31:59 am
It's definitely a Piko - it's written on the underside (I'll get a pic when I can).

I'll have to have it to bits (it needs a lot of love anyway!!) and see if there's a reference number or something inside the body or on the chassis...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on May 21, 2015, 11:35:00 am
It's definitely a Piko - it's written on the underside (I'll get a pic when I can).

I'll have to have it to bits (it needs a lot of love anyway!!) and see if there's a reference number or something inside the body or on the chassis...

Don't be surprised if this is a pretty dire runner - I had something similar and the drive mechanism (even after overhaul) was truly awful....

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 21, 2015, 11:39:24 am
It's definitely a Piko - it's written on the underside (I'll get a pic when I can).

I'll have to have it to bits (it needs a lot of love anyway!!) and see if there's a reference number or something inside the body or on the chassis...

Don't be surprised if this is a pretty dire runner - I had something similar and the drive mechanism (even after overhaul) was truly awful....

Cheers,
Alan

I do love a challenge... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: msr on May 21, 2015, 12:49:20 pm
I think its a Piko Elektrolok Mehrzwecklokomotive S699 CSD (Czech Railways) which has lost its pantographs. There are several currently for sale on the German ebay site, such as this one:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Elok-Elektrolok-Mehrzwecklokomotive-S699-CSD-von-Piko-/161708123136?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item25a68e2400 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Elok-Elektrolok-Mehrzwecklokomotive-S699-CSD-von-Piko-/161708123136?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item25a68e2400)

However, the normal livery appears to be orange and so yours might well have been repainted.

The catalogue number is Piko 5/4109. You can see it in this catalogue:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=7Z-Yoq23S04C&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=piko+5/4109&source=bl&ots=SDAXZzFhMm&sig=a5zqM5nLwu0pgtKDjeIp1LRGHsc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0MVdVfL6EIXuUoHfgPAG&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=piko%205%2F4109&f=false (https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=7Z-Yoq23S04C&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=piko+5/4109&source=bl&ots=SDAXZzFhMm&sig=a5zqM5nLwu0pgtKDjeIp1LRGHsc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0MVdVfL6EIXuUoHfgPAG&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=piko%205%2F4109&f=false)

Hope this is of interest.

Mike
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 21, 2015, 04:19:04 pm
I think its a Piko Elektrolok Mehrzwecklokomotive S699 CSD (Czech Railways) which has lost its pantographs. There are several currently for sale on the German ebay site, such as this one:
[url]http://www.ebay.de/itm/Elok-Elektrolok-Mehrzwecklokomotive-S699-CSD-von-Piko-/161708123136?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item25a68e2400[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.de/itm/Elok-Elektrolok-Mehrzwecklokomotive-S699-CSD-von-Piko-/161708123136?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item25a68e2400[/url])

However, the normal livery appears to be orange and so yours might well have been repainted.

The catalogue number is Piko 5/4109. You can see it in this catalogue:
[url]https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=7Z-Yoq23S04C&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=piko+5/4109&source=bl&ots=SDAXZzFhMm&sig=a5zqM5nLwu0pgtKDjeIp1LRGHsc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0MVdVfL6EIXuUoHfgPAG&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=piko%205%2F4109&f=false[/url] ([url]https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=7Z-Yoq23S04C&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=piko+5/4109&source=bl&ots=SDAXZzFhMm&sig=a5zqM5nLwu0pgtKDjeIp1LRGHsc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0MVdVfL6EIXuUoHfgPAG&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=piko%205%2F4109&f=false[/url])

Hope this is of interest.

Mike


Wonderful stuff, thanks Mike! :)

It's a truly hideous livery (both to look at and to try and recreate) - I wonder if it came in any other colours...? ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 26, 2015, 10:36:04 am
The ochre 31 is finished! I rather like this livery - these diesels are definitely growing on me...

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A slightly better pic of the dock tank in its LMS livery:

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Both up for sale on fleabay if they appeal to anyone...!

Now to finish Sir Nigel, the blue Castle and various others on the go....
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 27, 2015, 11:23:50 am
More progress - the blue Castle and the re-painted Jube take shape:

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I'm also trying to restore a couple of Lima 2-6-4's at the moment. Removing the weights from one I've found that they are covered in what looks like limescale (it's not, Viakal has no effect!). I'm presuming this is some sort of oxidisation of the metal, but can anyone suggest the best way to remove it? Is it best just to file it off or is there a magic chemical I can use? See pics:

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Any advice gratefully received! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: PostModN66 on May 27, 2015, 11:28:46 am
A slightly better pic of the dock tank in its LMS livery:

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I love this little Dock Tank!  My introduction to N Gauge was a birthday present of the set this loco came with.  I even did an LMS relivery myself, but at the age of 12ish it wasn't quite as professional of yours!

I re-bought the set on e-bay recently just to recreate the feeling!

Cheers  Jon  :)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on May 27, 2015, 02:45:27 pm
Link to the 12" to the ft crimson Jubilee here..............

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=27175.msg306227#msg306227 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=27175.msg306227#msg306227)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Railwaygun on May 27, 2015, 06:45:58 pm

I'm also trying to restore a couple of Lima 2-6-4's at the moment. Removing the weights from one I've found that they are covered in what looks like limescale (it's not, Viakal has no effect!). I'm presuming this is some sort of oxidisation of the metal, but can anyone suggest the best way to remove it? Is it best just to file it off or is there a magic chemical I can use? See pics:

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Any advice gratefully received! :)

the weights may be zinc alloy / Mazak and the problem will only get worse! worse, they weights will get bigger and may split the body!

you could make a cast in silicon rubber and use low melt solder to make a replica cast??
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 28, 2015, 09:48:24 am
Link to the 12" to the ft crimson Jubilee here..............

[url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=27175.msg306227#msg306227[/url] ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=27175.msg306227#msg306227[/url])


Glorious! Thanks, Nobby! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 28, 2015, 10:00:35 am

I'm also trying to restore a couple of Lima 2-6-4's at the moment. Removing the weights from one I've found that they are covered in what looks like limescale (it's not, Viakal has no effect!). I'm presuming this is some sort of oxidisation of the metal, but can anyone suggest the best way to remove it? Is it best just to file it off or is there a magic chemical I can use? See pics:

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Any advice gratefully received! :)

the weights may be zinc alloy / Mazak and the problem will only get worse! worse, they weights will get bigger and may split the body!

you could make a cast in silicon rubber and use low melt solder to make a replica cast??

Thanks, Railwaygun! They're certainly not going back in the loco in the state they're in...! Further research suggests that a good long soak in vinegar and lemon juice will get rid of the bloom - I might try this followed by a dry in the sunshine (when there is some) and an enamel varnish...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 29, 2015, 10:37:32 am
Well, the crusty Lima weights are now in a bath of vinegar and lemon juice - some of the oxidization appeared to have loosened after only a few hours, so I'll let you know if it works fully!

In the meantime, more progress on a couple of other projects...

I got these Royal Scot and N2 kits as part of a job lot of locos - they were badly painted, bashed about and very sloppily glued together, so I stripped the paint off and put them in hot water to soften the glue.

Once done I took them to bits, scraped off all the excess glue, straightened all the bent parts best I could and re-assembled them. The Scot has come up really well - I need to have a rummage in my bits box for some buffers for the N2 and then I'll give it a coat of primer:

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This is a 2-6-4 kit on a Farish chassis that I've stripped and re-liveried. I've replaced the tatty black plastic Farish rear pony wheels it came with with some Lima ones, which I think look pretty good. I'm undecided as to whether I should replace the front ones similarly or whether it looks alright as is - what do you think?

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on May 29, 2015, 10:40:39 am
Looks very nice overall. The rear wheels do look better than the front though.
 :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 29, 2015, 10:44:53 am
Looks very nice overall. The rear wheels do look better than the front though.
 :beers:

Thanks! Looks like I'll be making a new front pony truck to accommodate the Lima wheels, then... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Roy L S on May 29, 2015, 10:52:58 am

In the meantime, more progress on a couple of other projects...

I got these Royal Scot and N2 kits as part of a job lot of locos - they were badly painted, bashed about and very sloppily glued together, so I stripped the paint off and put them in hot water to soften the glue.

I need to have a rummage in my bits box for some buffers for the N2 and then I'll give it a coat of primer:

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Just so that you know for when you come to sell it, it is an N7 not an N2!

Looks like it will need steps too unless you have them somewhere?

Kind Regards

Roy
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 29, 2015, 11:25:33 am

In the meantime, more progress on a couple of other projects...

I got these Royal Scot and N2 kits as part of a job lot of locos - they were badly painted, bashed about and very sloppily glued together, so I stripped the paint off and put them in hot water to soften the glue.

I need to have a rummage in my bits box for some buffers for the N2 and then I'll give it a coat of primer:

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Just so that you know for when you come to sell it, it is an N7 not an N2!

Looks like it will need steps too unless you have them somewhere?

Kind Regards

Roy

Thanks Roy - funnily enough I was just about to post that I'd discovered my error and that it's an N7! Great minds and all that... ;)

You're right, it does need some steps - I'll see what I've got kicking about, or I might ask those nice people at NBrass...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 01, 2015, 10:56:32 am
A very productive weekend - the vinegar/lemon juice bath worked a treat on those Lima weights - the oxidization has crumbled away nicely.

Steps and buffers have been added to the N7 and it will get a coat of primer tonight - the Royal Scot, GER 2-6-4 and E5 are also coming along beautifully (pics to follow!)

On the non-N Gauge front, over the course of the weekend I also replaced four jiggered fence panels and a very deeply-set post, removed two huge climbing plants, watched and celebrated Arsenal's FA Cup win (enthusiastically, with beer, late into the night), got dragged out to look at kitchens by SWMBO (with a hangover) and re-set the valve clearances on the Mini.

The latter was a  :censored: of a job and means that there is now more of my skin on the rocker arm screws and fan blades than there is on my knuckles. Ouch.

But I feel I have Achieved Things. And I have the cuts, bruises and scars to prove it! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on June 01, 2015, 11:06:41 am

The latter was a  :censored: of a job and means that there is now more of my skin on the rocker arm screws and fan blades than there is on my knuckles. Ouch.

But I feel I have Achieved Things. And I have the cuts, bruises and scars to prove it! :)

Bah - just a mere scratch compared to 'Fishplate Finger' :laugh: :P
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 01, 2015, 11:33:58 am

The latter was a  :censored: of a job and means that there is now more of my skin on the rocker arm screws and fan blades than there is on my knuckles. Ouch.

But I feel I have Achieved Things. And I have the cuts, bruises and scars to prove it! :)

Bah - just a mere scratch compared to 'Fishplate Finger' :laugh: :P

Ha!  :laughabovepost: I wish that were true, Nobby - my hands feel like they've been dipped in a blender. And then sprayed with airbrush cleaner... (if you've ever got this stuff in a cut, you'll know...)  :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 02, 2015, 10:27:48 am
Some photographic updates:

The LNER 2-6-4 has its new Lima pony wheels and looks loads better - just the buffer beams to paint, a final track test and it'll be ebay-bound:

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The E5 is getting there. Slowly... Lots of careful work with a fine permanent market pen and a very thin paintbrush to go! (Oh, and some cab steps!)

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As is the B1...

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Not much to look at, I know, but after a couple of days in a vinegar/lemon juice bath these Lima weights are all but free of oxidization and (more importantly!) they fit in the loco again!

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on June 02, 2015, 10:31:15 am
The LNER 2-6-4 really looks the business with the new Lima pony wheels.
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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 04, 2015, 10:21:44 am
So many projects, so little time...!

Just some of the ones I've got on the go at the moment: the E5, the Royal Scot, a Jubilee, two Panniers, Warship, a Jinty, the J39, the blue Castle, Sir Nigel and the LNER 2-6-4.

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And then there's two Lima 2-6-4's, another golden ochre class 31, the N7, a 2-10-0 WWII Kriegslok, a Lima class 86 and a couple more Jubes amongst (many!) others. I really have to curb my ebay habit... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Papyrus on June 04, 2015, 12:50:31 pm
I really have to curb my ebay habit... ;)

No you don't!!

I get the impression you sell most of your renovated stuff on again, to modellers who can't do as good a job as you, so you are providing a worthwhile service. Do you lose money on them?  I would hope you make a little profit on each one. And you obviously enjoy it!

Fair play to you. Keep up the good work!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Railwaygun on June 04, 2015, 01:01:04 pm
I really have to curb my ebay habit... ;)

No you don't!!

I get the impression you sell most of your renovated stuff on again, to modellers who can't do as good a job as you, so you are providing a worthwhile service. Do you lose money on them?  I would hope you make a little profit on each one. And you obviously enjoy it!

Fair play to you. Keep up the good work!

Cheers,

Chris

Let's hope that HMRC is understanding ( as they are cracking down on EBay sellers - a good excuse to use the local sales facilities!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 04, 2015, 01:19:05 pm
I really have to curb my ebay habit... ;)

No you don't!!

I get the impression you sell most of your renovated stuff on again, to modellers who can't do as good a job as you, so you are providing a worthwhile service. Do you lose money on them?  I would hope you make a little profit on each one. And you obviously enjoy it!

Fair play to you. Keep up the good work!

Cheers,

Chris

Thanks, Chris!

Yes, I do sell most of them on (otherwise I'd be drowning in locos!) :). It's really just a hobby - I love restoring things - but sales cover the cost of paints and decals, the price of the odd loco that I keep and bits I buy for my layout (which I really must get round to finishing!).

I find the process of taking something unloved and broken, restoring it and knowing that it will be used and appreciated a very rewarding and cathartic one. Hopefully, people who see my locos on NGF and go on to buy them will know that patience and care has gone into their loco and that they're getting something, if not totally unique, at least a little different.

I really appreciate your kind words and encouragement - it's great to know that people like and value what I do. :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 08, 2015, 09:20:58 am
I'm working on a 9F at the moment (amongst other things!). I've got the motor and valve gear running very sweetly but (as you can see below) the bodywork needs some TLC.

The body seems to have been made of two halves stuck together, the dome has been moved forward and some extra pipework added - I know the 9Fs had quite a lot of variations and improvements, but I'm wondering if the original modeller was aiming for a particular version/loco..? Any ideas/9F expertise welcomed! :)

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on June 08, 2015, 09:26:01 am
Any ideas/9F expertise welcomed! :)


The Minitrix 9F (As it comes) is actually a Britannia shell on a continental chassis. As such it's (way) too long for the chassis and front overhang is large. Quite a few modellers came up with essentially the same fix to lop a chunk out of the forward boiler and therefore shorten it down to fit better on the chassis. There's a couple of mid 1980s articles in Railway Modeller I'm sure. Some also came up with methods to angle the cylinders more accurately.

HTH,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 08, 2015, 09:30:47 am
Any ideas/9F expertise welcomed! :)


The Minitrix 9F (As it comes) is actually a Britannia shell on a continental chassis. As such it's (way) too long for the chassis and front overhang is large. Quite a few modellers came up with essentially the same fix to lop a chunk out of the forward boiler and therefore shorten it down to fit better on the chassis. There's a couple of mid 1980s articles in Railway Modeller I'm sure. Some also came up with methods to angle the cylinders more accurately.

HTH,
Alan

Thanks Alan - that would certainly explain the "cut and shut" job! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on June 08, 2015, 10:00:00 am
Looking good Ozymandias!

The LNER 2-6-4 is a Robinson L1 (later L3 after Thompson took the class designation for his own locomotive). Also, sorry about this (again) but I don't think any J39's actually made it into Green livery. Most wore plain black but a few were lined out in red (as per the Farish model). The green livery does look rather fetching on your loco though!  :) Liking the modified Minitrix 9F too, bet it'll pull a house down!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 08, 2015, 10:13:29 am
Looking good Ozymandias!

The LNER 2-6-4 is a Robinson L1 (later L3 after Thompson took the class designation for his own locomotive). Also, sorry about this (again) but I don't think any J39's actually made it into Green livery. Most wore plain black but a few were lined out in red (as per the Farish model). The green livery does look rather fetching on your loco though!  :) Liking the modified Minitrix 9F too, bet it'll pull a house down!

Thanks Atso - I didn't know what type the 2-6-4 was, so it's good to know! I confess that I googled liveries for the J39 (rather than doing "proper" research!) and found a pic of a OO gauge one in the green - I just liked the look of it, so I've gone for aesthetics rather than historical accuracy...  :-[

The 9F does run very well now - it'll be a great loco once it's had a tidy-up and a re-spray. Pics of progress will follow!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 09, 2015, 09:57:46 am
The J39 is finished! Satin varnish, silvered hand rails and a coal load make such a difference...

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Sir Nigel's paint job is done (although the  :censored: :veryangry: valve gear and quartering still need some work). Bit chuffed with this livery - I love the colour.

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on June 09, 2015, 09:59:44 am
Sir Nigel's paint job is done (although the  :censored: :veryangry: valve gear and quartering still need some work). Bit chuffed with this livery - I love the colour.

That is an excellent job!

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: spiceyart on June 09, 2015, 12:12:39 pm
Wow!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on June 09, 2015, 01:24:38 pm
They do look the dogs dangly bits. Smashing work :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 10, 2015, 09:45:59 am
Here's the Robinson L1, now finished - those Lima wheels do make such a difference! On ebay now, if anyone's interested!

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I've stripped the shortened 9F - all that brake fluid affected the glue and it fell to bits! Oh well, it needed a lot of love and filling anyway...

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Remember that "mystery" Piko loco a couple of pages back? I stripped it (which revealed the original hideous orange and white livery - shudder!) This is it primered - it needs some filling as its previous owner apparently attacked it with a bradawl - once I've done that I've found a slightly less horrible blue and white livery that it will end up in.

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 11, 2015, 10:57:25 am
The L1 would look good on my layout I can feel a Fleabay big looming
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Railwaygun on June 11, 2015, 12:31:45 pm
Any chance of a link to your latest listing?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on June 11, 2015, 12:53:21 pm
The L1 would look good on my layout I can feel a Fleabay big looming

I thought that you'd said that all the 'proper' locomotives where LMS... Have you finally seen the light and looking to acquire some truly exceptional locomotives now Paul?  :laughabovepost:  :smiley-laughing:  :P
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 11, 2015, 01:24:53 pm
The L1 would look good on my layout I can feel a Fleabay big looming

I thought that you'd said that all the 'proper' locomotives where LMS... Have you finally seen the light and looking to acquire some truly exceptional locomotives now Paul?  :laughabovepost:  :smiley-laughing:  :P
I meant it would look good on my layout as an example of how steam locomotives should not have been designed   :P
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 12, 2015, 09:28:11 am
Any chance of a link to your latest listing?


Absolutely, Railwaygun - good idea! :)

I've got a few on the go at the moment:

Robinson L1
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181770814606?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181770814606?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)


Duchess class Queen Elizabeth
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181770804469?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181770804469?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)


Farish Raveningham Hall
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181769845775?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181769845775?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)


J39 (LNER green)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181769838843?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181769838843?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)


German 7164 tender drive loco
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181768994569?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181768994569?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)

When I'm selling in future, I'll put a link to the item on ebay.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on June 12, 2015, 09:30:22 am
Maybe this should really be in the ebay advertising board?

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?board=38.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?board=38.0)

cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 12, 2015, 10:18:02 am
Maybe this should really be in the ebay advertising board?

[url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?board=38.0[/url] ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?board=38.0[/url])

cheers,
Alan


Sorry, Alan... :-[

I'll put the ebay links in the correct section next time and just put progress updates and pics in this thread. I have administered myself a smacked wrist...  :(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on June 12, 2015, 10:19:57 am
Sorry, Alan... :-[

I'll put the ebay links in the correct section next time and just put progress updates and pics in this thread. I have administered myself a smacked wrist...  :(

No big thing - and not my place to say so much, but just wasn't sure if you were aware there was a dedicated board for ebay ads  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 12, 2015, 10:28:32 am


No big thing - and not my place to say so much, but just wasn't sure if you were aware there was a dedicated board for ebay ads  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Alan

I am now! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 12, 2015, 12:03:52 pm
I've got (another!) Lima class 31 that I'm stripping for a re-paint - I was thinking about the all-yellow Network Rail livery - unless anyone's got any interesting/unusual alternatives?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on June 12, 2015, 12:10:37 pm
There are some interesting variations on blue:

http://www.railblue.com/Pictures/Class%2031/31309.mv.240488.jpg (http://www.railblue.com/Pictures/Class%2031/31309.mv.240488.jpg)

http://www.railblue.com/Pictures/Rail%20Blue%20History/31404kx27sept80.jpg (http://www.railblue.com/Pictures/Rail%20Blue%20History/31404kx27sept80.jpg)

http://www.railblue.com/Pictures/Rail%20Blue%20History/D5578_Blue.jpg (http://www.railblue.com/Pictures/Rail%20Blue%20History/D5578_Blue.jpg)

as well as 31283 with large numbers (I intend to do this on a Farish 31, as I had a Lima model of 31283 as a kid!).

Of course, there's always some other interesting mods you could make:

http://www.deltic21.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/31202___31226_-_North_Circular_Road_28729.jpg# (http://www.deltic21.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/31202___31226_-_North_Circular_Road_28729.jpg#)

 :D

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 12, 2015, 12:23:00 pm
 :laughabovepost: I love that last one! If only my layout was of a more modern period I'd model that scene!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on June 12, 2015, 12:23:52 pm
:laughabovepost: I love that last one! If only my layout was of a more modern period I'd model that scene!

Would be an interesting diorama!

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 15, 2015, 12:25:39 pm
The "mystery" Czech loco looks a lot better for some filler and the first part of a new livery... needs tidying up, but it looks miles better than it was!

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A couple of Limas get a facelift - another golden ochre class 31, and a 2-6-4 tank goes crimson lake (with a naked Sir Nigel, a 9F and a re-numbered Jube lurking in the background...)

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 15, 2015, 12:28:47 pm
I want the jube
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: railsquid on June 15, 2015, 12:47:01 pm
[url]http://www.deltic21.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/31202___31226_-_North_Circular_Road_28729.jpg#[/url] ([url]http://www.deltic21.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/31202___31226_-_North_Circular_Road_28729.jpg#[/url])

Always tragic when locomotive mating rituals go wrong. I don't think we'll ever hear the pitter-patter of tiny 0-4-0s from that particular union.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on June 15, 2015, 12:54:31 pm
Always tragic when locomotive mating rituals go wrong. I don't think we'll ever hear the pitter-patter of tiny 0-4-0s from that particular union.

Haha, indeed. Both locos were withdrawn and scrapped after this incident. Surprisingly the upper loco 31226 looks in reasonably undamaged state, but presumably underframe and bogie damage was beyond economical repair.

31202? Err...banana-fied is about the only suitable description!

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 15, 2015, 12:55:18 pm
[url]http://www.deltic21.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/31202___31226_-_North_Circular_Road_28729.jpg#[/url] ([url]http://www.deltic21.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/31202___31226_-_North_Circular_Road_28729.jpg#[/url])

Always tragic when locomotive mating rituals go wrong. I don't think we'll ever hear the pitter-patter of tiny 0-4-0s from that particular union.


Steam Engines would never get up to such disgusting activities  :-[
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: railsquid on June 15, 2015, 12:57:39 pm
[url]http://www.deltic21.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/31202___31226_-_North_Circular_Road_28729.jpg#[/url] ([url]http://www.deltic21.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/31202___31226_-_North_Circular_Road_28729.jpg#[/url])

Always tragic when locomotive mating rituals go wrong. I don't think we'll ever hear the pitter-patter of tiny 0-4-0s from that particular union.


Steam Engines would never get up to such disgusting activities  :-[


That's why they died out  :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 15, 2015, 01:04:17 pm
They will never die  :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 15, 2015, 01:30:08 pm
I want the jube

It will be for sale once I've finished it, Paul - along with a couple of others I'm working on, which you'll see progress pics of shortly...

I'll let you know when they're up for sale! :)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 15, 2015, 01:36:36 pm
Cool, I will try and get my bidding right in Fleabay
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 16, 2015, 09:59:26 am
An abject lesson in paying attention whilst using a Dremel...

I was drilling the rebate hole for the cab steps on the E5 whilst talking to SWMBO (well, it happens sometimes).

The drill bit grabbed, went straight though the footplate and up through the cab side. This is it after a LOT of swearing and some repair work with Milliput.

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IT should be fine - it's just one panel so I can sand, re-primer, repaint and re-decal - just  :censored: annoying!!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 16, 2015, 10:09:11 am
you have my sympathy, I thought things like this only happened to me
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on June 16, 2015, 05:02:59 pm
Don't worry. It's still a lovely-looking E5.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 16, 2015, 05:19:39 pm
Don't worry. It's still a lovely-looking E5.

Thanks, Pete! :) It'll be even lovelier when it's all done. I'm rather dreading the modification work on the chassis...  :uneasy:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on June 17, 2015, 12:02:32 am
Thanks, Pete! :) It'll be even lovelier when it's all done. I'm rather dreading the modification work on the chassis...  :uneasy:

I'm rather looking forward to it  :D  I have a spare chassis and an unstarted E5 kit here, waiting to be done. Seeing how you do it will help.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 17, 2015, 10:03:30 am
Thanks, Pete! :) It'll be even lovelier when it's all done. I'm rather dreading the modification work on the chassis...  :uneasy:

I'm rather looking forward to it  :D  I have a spare chassis and an unstarted E5 kit here, waiting to be done. Seeing how you do it will help.


I'll try to take pics of my progress so you can see how not to do it I get on...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 18, 2015, 10:19:29 am
No progress pics today as I have evidently become "Curse Of The Machines" - not only did my beloved Mini, Charlotte, break down on the way to work yesterday, but as I was googling some liveries last night my phone packed up as well, so no camera... I didn't dare do any loco engine servicing, just in case... :uneasy:

So I did some nice non-technical painting and decalling instead.

Charlotte is in the garage having her sensors and vacuum pipes looked at, phone has decided it wants to play again this morning - hopefully normal service will be resumed soon.  :scowl:

The lack of Charlotte did mean that I had to get the train in this morning for the first time in ages. Living in East Grinstead, I was hoping that they'd use something decent from the Bluebell like the Southern S15 or a Black 5 to pull the carriages. I was disappointed...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 19, 2015, 09:40:55 am
...aaaand my camera phone decided to start working again - huzzah!

Sir Nigel's repaint is now complete and I'm very pleased with it, but he decided to throw some valve gear on his test run, so I will need to fashion a repair to that (to match the other side!):

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The vinegar-bathed weights now (mostly) free of oxidization fit back nicely into the Lima 2-6-4. Amazingly for a Lima, this chassis runs really smoothly. Its body is awaiting decals to make it a maroon LMS livery:

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A new livery for a Lima class 31. Aaaaagh, my eyes!!! :o  ;) 

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on June 19, 2015, 09:49:26 am
Sir Nigel's repaint is now complete and I'm very pleased with it, but he decided to throw some valve gear on his test run, so I will need to fashion a repair to that (to match the other side!):

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You should be pleased - that's come out exquisitely.

In fact your progress on this one has been inspiring enough for me to acquire a Dapol A4 with the same intentions. Mine might become "Sparrow Hawk" though  ;)

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 19, 2015, 09:53:27 am
Sir Nigel's repaint is now complete and I'm very pleased with it, but he decided to throw some valve gear on his test run, so I will need to fashion a repair to that (to match the other side!):

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You should be pleased - that's come out exquisitely.

In fact your progress on this one has been inspiring enough for me to acquire a Dapol A4 with the same intentions. Mine might become "Sparrow Hawk" though  ;)

Cheers,
Alan

I will deny this of course but they are kind of smart looking machines
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on June 19, 2015, 10:54:36 am
You've made a super job of the A4 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 22, 2015, 02:42:55 pm
Didn't have to do much on this one, but I thought paulprice would like to see it...!

Peco Jubilee, given new front buffers and renumbered 5712 "Victory" - on ebay now:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 22, 2015, 06:41:56 pm
Didn't have to do much on this one, but I thought paulprice would like to see it...!

Peco Jubilee, given new front buffers and renumbered 5712 "Victory" - on ebay now:

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Looks good to me, I wonder if I will be lucky enough to procure it?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 23, 2015, 10:02:12 am
Another one you might like, Paul...

This Jube has required a lot of work (which is ongoing!). It's been stripped and repainted and is now getting its lining, using the Fox Transfers special Jube lining set. Fiddly but very good:

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This is the repainted Lima 2-6-4 - again using Fox lining, half-way through one side. It's a good job I'm short-sighted, because I have to get very close up to do this sort of job!:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 23, 2015, 10:27:37 am
Another one you might like, Paul...

This Jube has required a lot of work (which is ongoing!). It's been stripped and repainted and is now getting its lining, using the Fox Transfers special Jube lining set. Fiddly but very good:

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This is the repainted Lima 2-6-4 - again using Fox lining, half-way through one side. It's a good job I'm short-sighted, because I have to get very close up to do this sort of job!:

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Just send all the Jubilees to me, the people on Fleabay wont appreciate them  :angel:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on June 23, 2015, 02:17:25 pm
Just send all the Jubilees to me, the people on Fleabay wont appreciate them  :angel:

Some of us just want to cut them up!  >:D  >:D  >:D  :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:

Nice work there Ozymandias!  :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 23, 2015, 08:35:48 pm
Just send all the Jubilees to me, the people on Fleabay wont appreciate them  :angel:

Some of us just want to cut them up!  >:D  >:D  >:D  :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:

Nice work there Ozymandias!  :D

NAsty ATSO Nasty
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 25, 2015, 09:52:49 am
More from the workbench (well, dining room table...)

Some diesels mid-paint:

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A new project - an E2 (I think!) that I bought from a fellow forum member. LOTS of paint to strip off and a new funnel to find/make, but this will be a really lovely little loco:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Jim Martin on June 26, 2015, 11:54:43 am
It's a good job I'm short-sighted, because I have to get very close up to do this sort of job!:

Ha! So I'm not the only one who routinely works on models held a couple of inches away!

Jim
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on June 26, 2015, 12:03:56 pm
Ha! So I'm not the only one who routinely works on models held a couple of inches away!

You do you work that far away from the model!!!!  :goggleeyes: I've got my nose on my when I work!!!!

Loving the E2 Ozymandias!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 26, 2015, 01:31:05 pm
Ha! So I'm not the only one who routinely works on models held a couple of inches away!

You do you work that far away from the model!!!!  :goggleeyes: I've got my nose on my when I work!!!!

Loving the E2 Ozymandias!

I bet you look like the forger from the Great Escape "Please Take Me With You"  :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: joe cassidy on June 26, 2015, 04:41:25 pm
Donald Pleasance ?

Another of those great British actors from the 50s/60s who could hold his own with the Yanks.

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 26, 2015, 04:43:41 pm
Donald Pleasance ?

Another of those great British actors from the 50s/60s who could hold his own with the Yanks.

Best regards,


Joe

And the spiting image of my old Classics Master at School
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: joe cassidy on June 26, 2015, 04:45:55 pm
We nicknamed ours "Elmer" - E.L. Moore  :D

Best regards,

Joe
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 26, 2015, 04:53:56 pm
....Happy Days.......
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: joe cassidy on June 26, 2015, 05:04:03 pm
They were, because kids from less well-off families could get a good education for free in the UK - I certainly did. Apparently UK universities now charge fees of around £10 000 per year.

Can "ordinary" families still afford that ?

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Rabs on June 27, 2015, 03:24:31 pm
No, but the theory is that an ordinary graduate can.  It doesn't come out of your pocket at the time, you get a low interest loan for the full amount of fees which the university charges, which you then pay back over the course of your career out of your income.
It works more like a special graduate income tax.  It doesn't matter how much money you or your parents have.  Also, if you end up not earning enough to pay it back you don't have to pay it back.
While I would have preferred my university education to be free like my parents' the system doesn't seem entirely unjust.  After all, the government can't be expected to pay out bloated state sector pensions and provide higher education now, can it? :P
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: railsquid on June 27, 2015, 03:29:31 pm
↑OT  :sorrysign:  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on June 27, 2015, 03:46:25 pm
Agreed. :offtopicsign:
Sorry but I feel the thread has been well and truly hijacked.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Rabs on June 27, 2015, 04:40:39 pm
Sorry  :-[
You were saying about railways...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 29, 2015, 10:49:12 am
That E2 looks a bit different now...! Stripped, dismantled, cleaned up, re-assembled and re-funnelled...

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A B1 kit on the way to becoming the BR incarnation of "Mayflower":

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I learned a salutory lesson abotu the importance of wearing a mask while spraying last night.

I came in from the garage (having been spraying some decal paper and loco body with "provincial light blue"). SHMBO said "What on earth have you done to your nose?!"

On checking in the mirror, the inside of my nostrils were bright blue. I looked like the frontage of a Soho nightclub. I'll use the mask in future...  :doh:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on June 29, 2015, 11:10:39 am
That E2 looks a bit different now...! Stripped, dismantled, cleaned up, re-assembled and re-funnelled...

Looks great - what's the chimney off?

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 29, 2015, 11:56:15 am
That E2 looks a bit different now...! Stripped, dismantled, cleaned up, re-assembled and re-funnelled...

Looks great - what's the chimney off?

Cheers,
Alan


Errrm... don't know!!  :-[ It was in my bits box and look about right compared to pics I googled! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 30, 2015, 10:26:18 am
A couple more on the go...

A repainted Warship (D802 "Formidable") gets some decals:

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The E5 is repaired after my Dremelling accident - you'd never know... ;)

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A class 47 gets a provincial livery:

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And the Czech S699 looks a lot better for some paint (and suspiciously close in colour to the provincial 47!)  :whistle:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2015, 10:46:33 am
That's a very nice repair job on the E5 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 30, 2015, 10:54:38 am
I quite like the green B!, I cant believe I just said that
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 30, 2015, 11:04:28 am
I quite like the green B!, I cant believe I just said that

You'll like what I'm working on next, Paul - a Peco Jube that someone has painted lime green...  :goggleeyes:

It's going in the brake fluid bath, but I'll get a pic before it does!

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 30, 2015, 11:06:27 am
Some people are just wrong, how could anyone do that to such brilliant thing as a Jube? There is no hope for the workd
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 30, 2015, 11:31:22 am
Some people are just wrong, how could anyone do that to such brilliant thing as a Jube? There is no hope for the workd

Fear not - I will restore it to proper loveliness... :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 30, 2015, 11:40:50 am
One quick question, what paint do you use for your LMS crimson?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 30, 2015, 11:56:21 am
One quick question, what paint do you use for your LMS crimson?

I use Rover Damask Red car spray from Halfords - although I've found that Humbrol gloss enamel (number 20 crimson, I think) is exactly the same shade (useful when it comes to touching up bits the spray doesn't reach!) ;-)

The Halfords sprays (which I think are cellulose-thinned) don't seem to mind having Railmatch enamel varnish sprayed over the top of them, but I have had issues spraying guitars I've made where an enamel varnish over a cellulose paint has reacted and cracked - so generally I try to stay with one type of paint base, be it enamel, cellulose or acrylic.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 30, 2015, 12:13:36 pm
cool I use the same paints and like you I have been lucky so far when applying varnish
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on June 30, 2015, 04:12:28 pm
The E5 is repaired after my Dremelling accident - you'd never know... ;)

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Nope, you never would know. It's still looking very good, and I can't wait to see it with the lining completed..

Erm... but isn't that boiler lining wrapped around the handrail too? I bet you knew that and just hadn't got around to repainting the whole handrail yet.  ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 30, 2015, 04:26:45 pm


Nope, you never would know. It's still looking very good, and I can't wait to see it with the lining completed..

Erm... but isn't that boiler lining wrapped around the handrail too? I bet you knew that and just hadn't got around to repainting the whole handrail yet.  ;)

Thanks Pete! I haven't forgotten that boiler lining, honest! I normally do one long piece all the way round and then scalpel off the bits where it's not meant to be, like the handrail - it means that it all stays in line until it's dry. I just haven't got round to doing the scalpelling yet! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 30, 2015, 05:32:18 pm
That reminds me I need to get some lining transfers, unless I get my famous bow pen out, who do you recommend, other than the fantastic fox
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 30, 2015, 05:38:27 pm
That reminds me I need to get some lining transfers, unless I get my famous bow pen out, who do you recommend, other than the fantastic fox

I've only ever really used Fox for lining - occasionally I use some old Press/Methfix stuff that I bought second hand, but that's more for lettering or logos (similarly Railtech).

If you use your bow pen, please take pics to show how it's done - I've never used one!! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on June 30, 2015, 05:47:53 pm
That reminds me I need to get some lining transfers, unless I get my famous bow pen out, who do you recommend, other than the fantastic fox


I've only ever really used Fox for lining - occasionally I use some old Press/Methfix stuff that I bought second hand, but that's more for lettering or logos (similarly Railtech).

If you use your bow pen, please take pics to show how it's done - I've never used one!! :)


Paul, bow pen all the way!

Ozymandias, if you'd like to use a bow pen I'd recommend reading 'A Modeller's Handbook of Painting and Lining' by Ian Rathbone. It covers all the lining techniques and has improved my abilities with a pen no end. Apologies for those who have seen this before, but below is my hand lining experiment using a rejected 3D print.

(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k481/Atso-Cad/Mobile%20Uploads/Sir%20Sam%20boiler%20lining%20started_zpsfb8sc224.jpg) (http://s1112.photobucket.com/user/Atso-Cad/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Sir%20Sam%20boiler%20lining%20started_zpsfb8sc224.jpg.html)

Everything here was hand lined using a mixture of bow pen and ooo brush. The boiler bands are Scotchtape lined out and stuck on, I won't be using this method again but might have a go with some hand painted water side transfers at a later date.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ditape on June 30, 2015, 05:48:57 pm
If you use your bow pen, please take pics to show how it's done - I've never used one!! :)

I to would be interested in a How to on the use of a bow pen.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 30, 2015, 05:55:12 pm
That reminds me I need to get some lining transfers, unless I get my famous bow pen out, who do you recommend, other than the fantastic fox


I've only ever really used Fox for lining - occasionally I use some old Press/Methfix stuff that I bought second hand, but that's more for lettering or logos (similarly Railtech).

If you use your bow pen, please take pics to show how it's done - I've never used one!! :)


Paul, bow pen all the way!

Ozymandias, if you'd like to use a bow pen I'd recommend reading 'A Modeller's Handbook of Painting and Lining' by Ian Rathbone. It covers all the lining techniques and has improved my abilities with a pen no end. Apologies for those who have seen this before, but below is my hand lining experiment using a rejected 3D print.

([url]http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k481/Atso-Cad/Mobile%20Uploads/Sir%20Sam%20boiler%20lining%20started_zpsfb8sc224.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1112.photobucket.com/user/Atso-Cad/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Sir%20Sam%20boiler%20lining%20started_zpsfb8sc224.jpg.html[/url])

Everything here was hand lined using a mixture of bow pen and ooo brush. The boiler bands are Scotchtape lined out and stuck on, I won't be using this method again but might have a go with some hand painted water side transfers at a later date.

Hope this helps.



Wow - that's a lovely job! I will have to look into bow pens - amongst other hobbies I occasionally do a bit of calligraphy, so they shold be right up my street! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on June 30, 2015, 06:54:34 pm
I tred a bow pen but couldn't get on with it, I now use Rotring drawing pens with opaque inks, I've cut some templates for different radii to draw round and use a ruler for the straight lines, however my hands are not as steady as they used ter woz, as can be seen on the T9 in my sig

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 01, 2015, 09:27:12 am
It really is this colour...  :o ...but it won't be for long...

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on July 01, 2015, 09:33:11 am
The previous owner should the put in front of a wall and shot
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 01, 2015, 09:52:33 am
The previous owner should the put in front of a wall and shot

Once I've stripped and primered this, I was thinking of doing a slightly different livery - maybe orange or pink..?

(Paul, I'm kidding, I promise you ... it'll be black or possibly BR green..) ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on July 01, 2015, 09:54:07 am
The previous owner should the put in front of a wall and shot

Once I've stripped and primered this, I was thinking of doing a slightly different livery - maybe orange or pink..?

(Paul, I'm kidding, I promise you ... it'll be black or possibly BR green..) ;)

BR Green is nearly as bad as PINK
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on July 01, 2015, 10:22:15 am
It really is this colour...  :o ...but it won't be for long...

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Yuck! It's almost luminous! :sick: I wouldn't even want to paint a GWR locomotive in THAT shade of green!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on July 01, 2015, 01:39:52 pm
What makes it worse in my view is that it looks like Bulleid's mala*hite.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 01, 2015, 02:21:24 pm
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I knew you'd all love it... ;)

I notice in the pic that half the funnel is missing - so I might make this into a Royal Scot (as I have the conversion kit which I found on ebay a while ago) - so she'll be back to a correct, soothing crimson lake...

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on July 01, 2015, 02:27:09 pm
:laughabovepost:

I knew you'd all love it... ;)

I notice in the pic that half the funnel is missing - so I might make this into a Royal Scot (as I have the conversion kit which I found on ebay a while ago) - so she'll be back to a correct, soothing crimson lake...

Alternatively, you could scrap the body and turn it into an original condition Scot with Stanier tender. I've not seen many original Scots about in N gauge and it was a lovely looking loco for an LMS type.  ;) :)  :angel:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 01, 2015, 02:29:41 pm
:laughabovepost:

I knew you'd all love it... ;)

I notice in the pic that half the funnel is missing - so I might make this into a Royal Scot (as I have the conversion kit which I found on ebay a while ago) - so she'll be back to a correct, soothing crimson lake...

Alternatively, you could scrap the body and turn it into an original condition Scot with Stanier tender. I've not seen many original Scots about in N gauge and it was a lovely looking loco for an LMS type.  ;) :)  :angel:

Interesting... I'd like to have a look at an original Scot - are there pics you could give me a link to?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on July 01, 2015, 02:42:31 pm
Link to a picture of Royal Scot in original, parallel boilered, condition.

http://www.semaphoresandsteam.com/img/s11/v35/p382980763-3.jpg (http://www.semaphoresandsteam.com/img/s11/v35/p382980763-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 01, 2015, 02:53:05 pm
Link to a picture of Royal Scot in original, parallel boilered, condition.

[url]http://www.semaphoresandsteam.com/img/s11/v35/p382980763-3.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.semaphoresandsteam.com/img/s11/v35/p382980763-3.jpg[/url])


That's rather lovely - much simpler lines than the Jubes. You could almost make one out of plastic tubing. Hmmm...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on July 01, 2015, 03:24:08 pm
That's rather lovely - much simpler lines than the Jubes. You could almost make one out of plastic tubing. Hmmm...

Aesthetically maybe, but the Jubs had a much better boiler, which is why the Scots were rebuilt!

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on July 01, 2015, 03:31:30 pm
Probably save a lot of work by just cutting off the boiler, keep firebox, brass tube for boiler, build up firebox as necessary. If you want to improve boiler detail use tube of correct diameter for smoke box and turn the rest down but leave rings proud as in this shot

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Lan1twbGHmo/TZi61dhVjRI/AAAAAAAACDE/Z3xUe9jMjlw/s912/A12prog4a.jpg)

(On Victorian 4-4-0s 0-4-2s 0-6-0s etc with round top fireboxes I make a "T" shaped cut at the rear and open out the sides for the firebox)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: joe cassidy on July 01, 2015, 06:41:13 pm
Mike,

What chassis did you use for your 0-4-2 ?

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on July 01, 2015, 08:23:20 pm
Joe, I think I hacked it from an old Poole one, the wheels in the pic are ABS Beaver, but I had problems with quartering I now have some from a Farish 4P. I did it in 2002. The tender drive is UM, the tender body is a Worsley Works one they are quite a good fit on the UM drive. I did a K10 4-4-0 about the same time again using the UM drive but a cut down Langley S15 body with the extra it pulls better than the etched one.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 09, 2015, 09:57:02 am
To calm the tortured nerves of Jube lovers everywhere... the lime green Jube now looks like this:

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A few days in a brake fluid bath works miracles. Needs to be primered and then sprayed - I'm thinking black for this one.

 :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on July 09, 2015, 09:58:29 am
That looks much better! (Even for an LMS locomotive!)  :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on July 09, 2015, 10:18:39 am
That looks much better! (Even for an LMS locomotive!)  :D

Steve - don't make me track you down and paint you crimson  >:D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 09, 2015, 10:26:32 am
 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on July 09, 2015, 10:32:30 am
I have been banned from Ebay by the Domestic Overlord - no new stock acquisitions for me  :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 09, 2015, 10:40:52 am
I have been banned from Ebay by the Domestic Overlord - no new stock acquisitions for me  :'(


Nooooooooooo!  :'(

Do what I do - have the little packages delivered to work and don't tell her... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on July 09, 2015, 10:45:19 am
I have been banned from Ebay by the Domestic Overlord - no new stock acquisitions for me  :'(


Nooooooooooo!  :'(

Do what I do - have the little packages delivered to work and don't tell her... ;)

Not fair! I work at home!  :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on July 09, 2015, 11:52:46 am
They have spies everywhere
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 15, 2015, 01:13:46 pm
Feels like an age since I've done any work on my locos!

My beloved Mini, Charlotte (proper Mini, none of this modern BMW nonsense), has been and continues to be very poorly, so I have spent most of my time and money over the last few days trying to find out what's wrong and  get her better. I think I may have finally cracked it, though.

So, locos...

A restored and repainted Warship (now D802 "Formidable") and a similar Farish 94XX have rolled through to completion from the paint room...

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Both are on ebay - now I have Mini repairs to pay for as well my N Gauge habit... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on July 15, 2015, 04:32:59 pm
Very impressive finish to both locos :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 15, 2015, 04:42:21 pm
Very impressive finish to both locos :thumbsup:

Thanks Nobby! I was very pleased to finish the Warship - all those numeral decals were put on individually and it does nothing for the eyesight...  :confused1: ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on July 20, 2015, 07:41:52 pm
A BIG thanks to Ozy for spraying the below two beauties for me.

Oz, your work is very good and I am thrilled to bits with the finish on both the Railfreight 56 and the Dutch 47 - both will take pride of place in my collection and look especially handsome with the scenic background. Your lining is spot on and I can only look in awe and admire your work.

For anyone considering having something done by this good fellow, I say go ahead. You won't be disappointed, and if you are, then you're just a too picky so and so!  ;)

Dan

Enjoy the photos of his work below;

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on July 20, 2015, 07:47:11 pm
Sorry - I'll work on trying to get the first two the correct way up later. I'm not having much success at the moment :doh:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on July 20, 2015, 09:17:26 pm
Very crisp paint job. Nice! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 21, 2015, 09:18:03 am
It's great to see them with chassis on and in such excellent scenery - so pleased you like them, Dan! :)

 :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 21, 2015, 01:01:48 pm
Sorry - I'll work on trying to get the first two the correct way up later. I'm not having much success at the moment :doh:

I thought maybe the 47 was on secondment to Australian Railways...? (Sorry) ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on July 21, 2015, 02:21:04 pm
Either that or Bealman's got his hands on it    ;D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on July 21, 2015, 02:22:50 pm
perhaps its just ill like my pet goldfish "Trevor" he has been floating upside down in his bowl for days?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 03, 2015, 10:21:27 am
Wow - over 20,000 reads! Thanks everyone!

My loco repair time has been a bit curtailed of late due to lots of other things going on, but normal service will be resumed shortly...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 06, 2015, 10:06:05 am
I had a free hour to do locos last night, so here's what I'm up to...


The stripped E2 now has steps, buffers and a coat of primer:

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The shortened (and rather brutally beaten about!) 9F has been re-assembled and given a coat of primer, which shows that there's still quite a bit of sanding and re-shaping to be done! I don't think it'll ever be absolutely perfect, this one, but it'll be a lot better than it was. It'll help once the smoke deflectors are back on:


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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on August 06, 2015, 03:27:33 pm
I'm keeping my eye on the E2's progress...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 07, 2015, 09:20:15 am
It's been snowing in the paint room!

A couple of HST's, a 50 and a 47 get white primered in readiness for a coat of yellow. The HST's will be all-yellow Network Rail livery, the 50 and 47 will be Dutch. Also, the grey primered 9F and Jube await a coat of black:

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The E5, Scot and 4MT get more decals:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on August 07, 2015, 10:16:45 am
You're certainly proving to be a dab hand with the linings :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on August 07, 2015, 03:14:19 pm
I'm sensing the beginnings of a factory here! We're getting up to almost industrial scale now Oz!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 07, 2015, 03:41:36 pm
I'm sensing the beginnings of a factory here! We're getting up to almost industrial scale now Oz!

Not quite to that scale Dan, but it keeps me out of mischief... ;)

My problem is I just can't resist a spares/repair project on ebay - I'm creating something of a loco mountain! That said, they all get done eventually and it's very rewarding! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 02, 2015, 09:34:06 am
Back from hols = back to painting locos!!


The E2, shortened 9F and formerly lime green Jube all look a bit better for a lick of paint...

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Lining another Jube - a real labour of love, this!

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A re-sprayed Warship on its way to becoming D806 "Cambrian"

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 09, 2015, 09:43:22 am
Another one finished - the shortened 9F takes a bow...

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Considering that it was like this...:

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... I don't think that's too shabby. Not perfect, but it runs well and looks nice. On ebay shortly if anyone's interested! ;)



I'm going to respray this Ivatt tender loco because the decals have all rubbed off - any suggestions for an interesting (but preferably historically accurate) alternative livery to the normal black? Did they sometimes appear in BR green?

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 09, 2015, 09:57:16 am
Did they sometimes appear in BR green?

They did and the Farish model has been offered as such. Minitrix also offered Green ones which are rarer than the black ones (particularly 46402 IIRC).

Minitrix never did a lined black version, so this would be more unique.

If you want something really unique then convert to a 78xxx BR standard version!

HTH,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 09, 2015, 10:04:55 am
Did they sometimes appear in BR green?


If you want something really unique then convert to a 78xxx BR standard version!

HTH,
Alan

Is there much difference between the two? I've had a quick google and the only thing I can see is that the dome is slightly squarer on the 78xxx, and the (condenser?) in front of it doesn't appear in the 78xxx...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 09, 2015, 11:09:42 am
Is there much difference between the two? I've had a quick google and the only thing I can see is that the dome is slightly squarer on the 78xxx, and the (condenser?) in front of it doesn't appear in the 78xxx...

The running plate at the front end is different and I think some detail of the tender cab, but it's probably something fairly managable to convert to a reasonable standard - the BR ones were pretty much identical bar a few modifications like that and some components changed to 'standard' components.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on September 09, 2015, 01:50:42 pm
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=maroon+ivatt&view=detailv2&&id=D001CE9ABE30F39209581F6C93B5F0C94F20DA18&selectedIndex=0&ccid=axy9walH&simid=608043575983934008&thid=OIP.M6b1cbdc1a9475b7a06318e8f953e1c3co0&ajaxhist=0 (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=maroon+ivatt&view=detailv2&&id=D001CE9ABE30F39209581F6C93B5F0C94F20DA18&selectedIndex=0&ccid=axy9walH&simid=608043575983934008&thid=OIP.M6b1cbdc1a9475b7a06318e8f953e1c3co0&ajaxhist=0)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 09, 2015, 02:01:04 pm
[url]http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=maroon+ivatt&view=detailv2&&id=D001CE9ABE30F39209581F6C93B5F0C94F20DA18&selectedIndex=0&ccid=axy9walH&simid=608043575983934008&thid=OIP.M6b1cbdc1a9475b7a06318e8f953e1c3co0&ajaxhist=0[/url] ([url]http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=maroon+ivatt&view=detailv2&&id=D001CE9ABE30F39209581F6C93B5F0C94F20DA18&selectedIndex=0&ccid=axy9walH&simid=608043575983934008&thid=OIP.M6b1cbdc1a9475b7a06318e8f953e1c3co0&ajaxhist=0[/url])


That's VERY nice! Decision made, thank you! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 10, 2015, 10:55:00 am
New acquisition - Warship for restoration. Oh dear me, that paint job - this is going straight in the brake fluid bath!!

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I'm hoping to do some decals tonight, so there should be some progress on the Jubes, the Scot and the other Warship soon.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 10, 2015, 01:49:50 pm
I wish I could find so many bargain locomotives to add to my fleet  :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 10, 2015, 03:02:01 pm
I wish I could find so many bargain locomotives to add to my fleet  :'(

They're not all bargains, Paul...! ;) Buying "spares/repair" can be a bit of a gamble - some that I get are beyond even my rose-tinted restoration optimism (all are good for spares, though!).

That said, this particular Warship just looks like it needs a strip-down, some TLC and a new paint job to be good as new. And then it'll be on ebay to pay for the rest of the scrap I buy! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 10, 2015, 09:35:58 pm
I wish I could find so many bargain locomotives to add to my fleet  :'(

They're not all bargains, Paul...! ;) Buying "spares/repair" can be a bit of a gamble - some that I get are beyond even my rose-tinted restoration optimism (all are good for spares, though!).

That said, this particular Warship just looks like it needs a strip-down, some TLC and a new paint job to be good as new. And then it'll be on ebay to pay for the rest of the scrap I buy! ;)

I might have to send you some of my fleet to work your magic on  :) ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 11, 2015, 09:09:57 am
I'm open to commissions, Paul...! ;)


A bit more progress on some of the other projects:

The blue blue Windsor Castle is almost lined out - just need to make the cabside plate and (patience allowing) do the nameplate:

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The E5 is really coming on - the lining is an absolute fiddle and getting the chassis right will be a pig, but I think it's looking rather lovely:

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An outbreak of yellow fever amongst the diseasels!! This outrageous brightness will be toned down with overcoats of blue and grey...:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 11, 2015, 09:46:01 am
I'm open to commissions, Paul...! ;)


A bit more progress on some of the other projects:

The blue blue Windsor Castle is almost lined out - just need to make the cabside plate and (patience allowing) do the nameplate:

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The E5 is really coming on - the lining is an absolute fiddle and getting the chassis right will be a pig, but I think it's looking rather lovely:

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An outbreak of yellow fever amongst the diseasels!! This outrageous brightness will be toned down with overcoats of blue and grey...:

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Seriously don't tempt me
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: maridunian on September 11, 2015, 09:53:50 am
I've stripped the shortened 9F - all that brake fluid affected the glue and it fell to bits! Oh well, it needed a lot of love and filling anyway...

I realise you bought the 9F shortened, but wonder if anyone here has the details of how much needs taking out and from where, exactly?

Mike
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 11, 2015, 09:55:12 am
I'm open to commissions, Paul...! ;)




Seriously don't tempt me

Oh go on, you know you want to...! (Sorry.) ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 11, 2015, 10:04:00 am
There were 2 Railway Modeller articles on shortening the 9F (well, shortening the Britannia body that comprises the 9F) back in the day - IIRC one was around 1983, or 1985 - that kind of time.

The shortening was cutting out a section behind the smokebox and rejoining. One of the articles also slanted the cylinders and modified under the cab area IIRC.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 11, 2015, 10:12:42 am
I've stripped the shortened 9F - all that brake fluid affected the glue and it fell to bits! Oh well, it needed a lot of love and filling anyway...

I realise you bought the 9F shortened, but wonder if anyone here has the details of how much needs taking out and from where, exactly?

Mike

From the look of the bits when I took them apart (see earlier pic), a slice was taken out of the boiler just forward of the dome - I'd have to compare with a Britannia chassis to see how much, though!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 11, 2015, 11:07:32 am
I'm open to commissions, Paul...! ;)




Seriously don't tempt me

Oh go on, you know you want to...! (Sorry.) ;)

Stop it Stop it
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 11, 2015, 11:13:00 am
I'm open to commissions, Paul...! ;)




Seriously don't tempt me

Oh go on, you know you want to...! (Sorry.) ;)

Stop it Stop it

Sorry. Bad Ozymandias..! >:D  ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 11, 2015, 11:28:37 am
Very bad trying to tempt a young innocent boy like me  :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Jim Martin on September 11, 2015, 04:30:02 pm
New acquisition - Warship for restoration. Oh dear me, that paint job - this is going straight in the brake fluid bath!!

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I'm hoping to do some decals tonight, so there should be some progress on the Jubes, the Scot and the other Warship soon.

Was this part of an ebay lot that included a couple of other Warships?

Jim
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 11, 2015, 04:59:48 pm


Was this part of an ebay lot that included a couple of other Warships?

Jim

Hi Jim,

No, this was sold singly - it was an ebay purchase though! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Jim Martin on September 14, 2015, 04:18:39 pm


Was this part of an ebay lot that included a couple of other Warships?

Jim

Hi Jim,

No, this was sold singly - it was an ebay purchase though! :)

Ah. There  was a "spares or repair" lot I was looking at a few days back that had two or three Warships (among other things) in a similar state to your one. I was just wondering if it was one of those.

Jim
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 15, 2015, 09:44:23 am
[url]http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=maroon+ivatt&view=detailv2&&id=D001CE9ABE30F39209581F6C93B5F0C94F20DA18&selectedIndex=0&ccid=axy9walH&simid=608043575983934008&thid=OIP.M6b1cbdc1a9475b7a06318e8f953e1c3co0&ajaxhist=0[/url] ([url]http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=maroon+ivatt&view=detailv2&&id=D001CE9ABE30F39209581F6C93B5F0C94F20DA18&selectedIndex=0&ccid=axy9walH&simid=608043575983934008&thid=OIP.M6b1cbdc1a9475b7a06318e8f953e1c3co0&ajaxhist=0[/url])


Thanks again for the suggestion - I'm going with it...!: :)

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 15, 2015, 09:46:41 am
Definitely number that up the same as the pic - it's a preservation livery so I think only this loco carried it.

Will look rather good I think  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 15, 2015, 09:48:29 am
Definitely number that up the same as the pic - it's a preservation livery so I think only this loco carried it.

Will look rather good I think  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Alan

That's the plan! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 17, 2015, 09:12:17 am
Compare and contrast...!

The E5 is so nearly nearly finished - taking its time, but getting there. Here it is next to another one I got as part of a job lot, about to go in the brake fluid bath...

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 17, 2015, 09:46:19 am
Compare and contrast...!

The E5 is so nearly nearly finished - taking its time, but getting there. Here it is next to another one I got as part of a job lot, about to go in the brake fluid bath...

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I really wish I could find the bargains like you can, its always good to expand the fleet
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 18, 2015, 09:46:08 am
A couple of progress on the crimson Jube and the Scot - getting there now! The decals need softening with Microsol, then a final coat of satin varnish (the tender has already been done).

I'm even painting and lining the tender frames - I really am a glutton for punishment!!

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 18, 2015, 09:53:09 am
Really exquisite work there - deserves a lot of respect!

Out of interest which decal sheets did you use on the LMS locos? I have a Duchess to be converted to the late form of 46256 which will require some careful modification of the cab base and lining, so would be interested to know.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 18, 2015, 10:07:36 am
Really exquisite work there - deserves a lot of respect!

Out of interest which decal sheets did you use on the LMS locos? I have a Duchess to be converted to the late form of 46256 which will require some careful modification of the cab base and lining, so would be interested to know.

Cheers,
Alan

Thanks Alan!

I've got some (I think very old!) Pressfix-style decals which I use for the numbering and lettering - got these off ebay ages ago and they've done a lot of locos! They're a bit fiddly to use as the individual letters can shift when you're applying them, but they look great.

The lining is done with Fox transfers, using mainly the special Jubilee lining set that they do and some general lining.

The nameplate and smokebox number on the Jube are from the original Peco methfix set supplied with the loco when new.

I think SWMBO suspects I have a massive drink problem as the dining room reeks of meths and IPA... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 18, 2015, 10:16:00 am
A couple of progress on the crimson Jube and the Scot - getting there now! The decals need softening with Microsol, then a final coat of satin varnish (the tender has already been done).

I'm even painting and lining the tender frames - I really am a glutton for punishment!!

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 18, 2015, 10:22:53 am
A couple of progress on the crimson Jube and the Scot - getting there now! The decals need softening with Microsol, then a final coat of satin varnish (the tender has already been done).

I'm even painting and lining the tender frames - I really am a glutton for punishment!!

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At the risk of sowing temptation in thy path, Paul... they will both be for sale... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 18, 2015, 10:26:12 am
A couple of progress on the crimson Jube and the Scot - getting there now! The decals need softening with Microsol, then a final coat of satin varnish (the tender has already been done).

I'm even painting and lining the tender frames - I really am a glutton for punishment!!

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At the risk of sowing temptation in thy path, Paul... they will both be for sale... ;)

You should come with a public WALLET warning   >:D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 18, 2015, 10:29:11 am
A couple of progress on the crimson Jube and the Scot - getting there now! The decals need softening with Microsol, then a final coat of satin varnish (the tender has already been done).

I'm even painting and lining the tender frames - I really am a glutton for punishment!!

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I need more Crimson loco'c

At the risk of sowing temptation in thy path, Paul... they will both be for sale... ;)

You should come with a public WALLET warning   >:D

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Papyrus on September 18, 2015, 12:32:18 pm
I really wish I could find the bargains like you can, its always good to expand the fleet

That's 'cos Ozzie bags them all!!  :D

Chris
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 18, 2015, 12:35:50 pm
I really wish I could find the bargains like you can, its always good to expand the fleet

That's 'cos Ozzie bags them all!!  :D

Chris

Not all of them... I miss out on a lot more than I get! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 18, 2015, 02:28:02 pm
I think SWMBO suspects I have a massive drink problem as the dining room reeks of meths and IPA... ;)

Wait till she sees your earnings on these - she'll be encouraging your drink problem after that ;) ;)  ;D  :beers:

Thanks for the info - I'm looking to create:
https://flic.kr/p/bfnn4F

Cheers,
Alan

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 18, 2015, 02:52:09 pm
I think SWMBO suspects I have a massive drink problem as the dining room reeks of meths and IPA... ;)

Wait till she sees your earnings on these - she'll be encouraging your drink problem after that ;) ;)  ;D  :beers:

Thanks for the info - I'm looking to create:
https://flic.kr/p/bfnn4F

Cheers,
Alan

That's a lovely subject to model! Keep us updated on progress (with pics!), won't you?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 18, 2015, 07:50:15 pm
That's a lovely subject to model! Keep us updated on progress (with pics!), won't you?

Will do - don't yet have the donor model yet, but hope that I can deface it without need for a full repaint, instead just careful modification of the lower cab sides.

But I won't hijack your thread on that one!

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: G_N_E_R on September 20, 2015, 01:28:53 pm
Fantastic thread, what paint did you use for the network rail hst?  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 21, 2015, 09:15:02 am
Fantastic thread, what paint did you use for the network rail hst?  :thankyousign:

Thank you! :) For the Network Rail HST I used Halfords car spray - Ford Signal Yellow.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 21, 2015, 09:25:10 am
Success and failure in the far-off land of Oz(ymandias)...

Success - I've finished the Network Rail 31 - quite pleased with this:

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Failure - I really should have learned my lesson about Railmatch aerosols. This 27 was going to be Dutch livery, but the grey aerosol is just too thick and gloopy - this is one "light" coat.  :-\  Back in the stripper bath she goes, and next time I'll use my airbrush (this coat looks as though I put it on with my hairbrush).

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 21, 2015, 11:43:46 am
As well you should be pleased with that 31, very smart indeed  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 21, 2015, 11:55:51 am
Just think of it as another opportunity (after you have finished swearing)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: G_N_E_R on September 21, 2015, 06:26:46 pm
Fantastic thread, what paint did you use for the network rail hst?  :thankyousign:

Thank you! :) For the Network Rail HST I used Halfords car spray - Ford Signal Yellow.

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 22, 2015, 09:53:54 am
Oh dear oh Lord, what have I bought this time...?

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They will be stripped of their gloopy green and their gold lamé underwear - any interesting suggestions for livery?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 22, 2015, 10:30:42 am
What about a nice Prussian blue
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on September 22, 2015, 10:42:18 am
What about one in that 'new build' grey they used to do for photographing a new engine as it came out of the factory?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 22, 2015, 11:24:29 am
Both very tempting...! I've got a nice deep blue I can use for the tender loco - Zwilnik, what sort of shade of grey is the "new build" one?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 22, 2015, 12:06:12 pm
Is it your intention to just do a refurb/repaint or hack them into something British? Lack of valve gear could be a problem there. Is the 2-6-2 loco or tender drive? If tender drive then there are not many 2-6-2 tender locos apart from the V2, if it's loco drive then there are a few 2-6-2Ts that might be doable, the 2-6-4T would tempt me to try  the SR W class, lack of valve gear would be less obvious due to those massive steps maybe hack a Farish 4MT body

http://www.semgonline.com/steam/wclass_1.html (http://www.semgonline.com/steam/wclass_1.html)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 22, 2015, 12:32:00 pm
Thanks for the link, Mike - that's nice-looking loco!

I think for simplicity's sake I'm just going for a refurb and restore, though - make sure they run right (I haven't tested the motor function yet!) and just give them a nicer-looking, crisper livery.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Papyrus on September 22, 2015, 12:35:37 pm
Why the gold paint??  ??? Who thought that was a good idea?

Interesting that the chassis says Made in West Germany. Gives you some idea of the vintage, but I get the impression Arnold stuff is pretty indestructible.

Looking forward to seeing these come back to life!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 22, 2015, 01:05:49 pm
Ee gads what had been done to those?!

Quick, nurse  ( :goggleeyes:) a bath of paint stripper and several CC's of oil....STAT!

Always wanted to say that......

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 22, 2015, 01:14:04 pm
W class tank, giving meself ideas now, must keep a watch for  a cheap Farish 4MT on fleabay! Modellers licence will allow it as being on a running in turn ex Eastleigh works.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 22, 2015, 01:34:58 pm
W class tank, giving meself ideas now, must keep a watch for  a cheap Farish 4MT on fleabay! Modellers licence will allow it as being on a running in turn ex Eastleigh works.

These "cheap Farish 4MTs on fleabay" of which you speak... where do they live, then? I'm obviously missing them...! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on September 22, 2015, 03:24:10 pm
This is the sort of thing. http://ekmpowershop4.com/ekmps/shops/morrismodels/images/fleischmann-ho-85-4077-db-class-78-prussian-t18-4-6-4t-tank-loco-photo-grey-era-2-reduced-510-p.jpg (http://ekmpowershop4.com/ekmps/shops/morrismodels/images/fleischmann-ho-85-4077-db-class-78-prussian-t18-4-6-4t-tank-loco-photo-grey-era-2-reduced-510-p.jpg)

Not sure if it's a standard grey that all companies use, but I believe it's a colour that gave good contrast and showed off the engine's lines in B&W photos of the day.

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on September 22, 2015, 03:25:34 pm
In fact, here's Tornado in photo-grey

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/60163_Tornado_1.jpg/2880px-60163_Tornado_1.jpg
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 22, 2015, 03:34:28 pm
This is the sort of thing. [url]http://ekmpowershop4.com/ekmps/shops/morrismodels/images/fleischmann-ho-85-4077-db-class-78-prussian-t18-4-6-4t-tank-loco-photo-grey-era-2-reduced-510-p.jpg[/url] ([url]http://ekmpowershop4.com/ekmps/shops/morrismodels/images/fleischmann-ho-85-4077-db-class-78-prussian-t18-4-6-4t-tank-loco-photo-grey-era-2-reduced-510-p.jpg[/url])

Not sure if it's a standard grey that all companies use, but I believe it's a colour that gave good contrast and showed off the engine's lines in B&W photos of the day.


We like! :) Looks like a Humbrol 64 light grey matt - and it just so happens I have a new tin of this...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 22, 2015, 04:02:22 pm
This is the sort of thing. [url]http://ekmpowershop4.com/ekmps/shops/morrismodels/images/fleischmann-ho-85-4077-db-class-78-prussian-t18-4-6-4t-tank-loco-photo-grey-era-2-reduced-510-p.jpg[/url] ([url]http://ekmpowershop4.com/ekmps/shops/morrismodels/images/fleischmann-ho-85-4077-db-class-78-prussian-t18-4-6-4t-tank-loco-photo-grey-era-2-reduced-510-p.jpg[/url])

Not sure if it's a standard grey that all companies use, but I believe it's a colour that gave good contrast and showed off the engine's lines in B&W photos of the day.


We like! :) Looks like a Humbrol 64 light grey matt - and it just so happens I have a new tin of this...


That's lucky
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 24, 2015, 09:29:32 am
Some of the "nearly there" section of the Ozymandias Locomotive Renaissance Collective...

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on September 24, 2015, 09:33:42 am
Et tu, Bruté?
Bad enough the supermarkets are filling up with Christmas rubbish (bah - humbug)

On the other hand I always admire your work :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 24, 2015, 09:43:45 am
Et tu, Bruté?
Bad enough the supermarkets are filling up with Christmas rubbish (bah - humbug)

On the other hand I always admire your work :thumbsup:

Ah yes, I see what you mean - my profuse apologies for the "festive" table cloth. It's there year-round because it's the only waterproof one we've got and we have two small (and incredibly messy) boys... Oh, and one big messy boy - Mrs gets up tight if I get IPA/paint/cellulose thinners on the table...  :uneasy:

Believe me, I am firmly with you in the "Bah, humbug!" camp!!

Glad you like the locos, though! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 24, 2015, 09:59:04 am
Some of the "nearly there" section of the Ozymandias Locomotive Renaissance Collective...

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More crimson more crimson :P
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 24, 2015, 10:08:15 am


More crimson more crimson :P

There's more crimson on the way, Paul, I promise...! I hope you're not offended by the BR green Jube... I had the paint and the decals, you see... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 24, 2015, 10:23:49 am


More crimson more crimson :P

There's more crimson on the way, Paul, I promise...! I hope you're not offended by the BR green Jube... I had the paint and the decals, you see... ;)

A poor excuse, I chose to ignore the mouldy green one.....
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 25, 2015, 09:37:17 am
It's not LMS and it's not a steamie... but it is crimson!

Warship D806 "Cambrian" now finished...:

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She's a bit growly but goes really well and smoothly!

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 29, 2015, 10:29:01 am
Those two green/gold German locos look a bit better after their brake fluid bath...

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The Royal Scot gets a (home-made!) nameplate:

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The green Peco Jube is coming along - although one of those  :censored: boiler bands seems to have shifted, will have to attend to that...:

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The Scot's tender. I'm doing the lining with strips of Fox's .35 lining. I can't do more than 15 minutes of this at a time - getting those curves right is enough to send sane men scampering into the trees...  :confused1:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 29, 2015, 10:33:38 am
Those two green/gold German locos look a bit better after their brake fluid bath...

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The Royal Scot gets a (home-made!) nameplate:

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The green Peco Jube is coming along - although one of those  :censored: boiler bands seems to have shifted, will have to attend to that...:

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The Scot's tender. I'm doing the lining with strips of Fox's .35 lining. I can't do more than 15 minutes of this at a time - getting those curves right is enough to send sane men scampering into the trees...  :confused1:

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I cant believe I rescue poor jubilees from that horrible green livery and you actually paint them in it.........your a cruel cruel man.........Actually excellent work you certainly put me to shame.

PAul
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 29, 2015, 10:45:02 am


I cant believe I rescue poor jubilees from that horrible green livery and you actually paint them in it.........your a cruel cruel man.........Actually excellent work you certainly put me to shame.

PAul

In my defence, there's green and there was "that" green...! ;)

You wait 'til I've finished the crimson Jube I'm working on - I've really gone to town on the lining, you'll love it Paul!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 29, 2015, 10:56:01 am


I cant believe I rescue poor jubilees from that horrible green livery and you actually paint them in it.........your a cruel cruel man.........Actually excellent work you certainly put me to shame.

PAul

In my defence, there's green and there was "that" green...! ;)

You wait 'til I've finished the crimson Jube I'm working on - I've really gone to town on the lining, you'll love it Paul!

I guess I will have to make sure I win it on ebay, I mean can I have too many Jubilee's
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 29, 2015, 11:03:12 am


I cant believe I rescue poor jubilees from that horrible green livery and you actually paint them in it.........your a cruel cruel man.........Actually excellent work you certainly put me to shame.

PAul

In my defence, there's green and there was "that" green...! ;)

You wait 'til I've finished the crimson Jube I'm working on - I've really gone to town on the lining, you'll love it Paul!

I guess I will have to make sure I win it on ebay, I mean can I have too many Jubilee's

You can never have too many locos, t-shirts, power tools, guitars... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 30, 2015, 09:18:54 am
A new purchase from a fellow NGF member (you know who you are, and thanks - it runs nicely!) :)

In desperate need of some re-spray love, though - I'm thinking crimson with yellow ends for this one!

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A black Prairie with new BR logos. Not done much cosmetically to this aside from the new decals, but the motor and valve gear have been cleaned and de-fluffed!

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 07, 2015, 09:36:51 am
Here's that Warship, all stripped down - I thought I might take a pic of every stage of its transformation so you can see how it progresses:


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And here's a newly-completed Lima 2-6-4 - quite pleased with this one as the paintwork is nice and crisp and it runs really well!

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: spiceyart on October 08, 2015, 08:31:34 am
 :greatpicturessign: WOW!

Great livery choice on the 4mt mate, looks a bit better than the rail blue with yellow ends on mine

Keep up the good work!

Art
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: steammachine on October 09, 2015, 10:29:24 pm
I knew I shouldn't have looked through this post. Some lovely work done, especially when you see the before and after pictures, however I do now have an urge to eBay a loco :P
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 12, 2015, 12:49:14 pm
Because I was given that rather lovely (but very heavy!) door layout by SWMBO's uncle, herself has decided that my lovingly-crafted test track has to find a new home. Humph.  :(

It's going to a good home, though - my youngest's best friend is crazy about locos, so I'm making it into a "proper" layout for his birthday present (he'll get that Czech loco I restored and some trucks as well!)

Here's the test track, with added hill, tunnel and engine shed (it will have a station, industrial buildings and a village too):

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 13, 2015, 10:46:26 am
More progress on some of my projects...

The formerly gloopy green and gold German tank loco gets a new "fresh out of the workshop" grey livery:

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So do its wheels (why did I decide to paint the spokes separately...?! "Stupid boy, Pike!" Ho hum, it'll look good.)

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The Warship that I stripped has been primered and painted - just needs a couple of yellow ends and some decals!

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Another Warship, on her way to being "Greyhound" in an all-green livery:

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Yet another Warship - this one is going to be "Onslaught" in her battleship grey preservation livery (just to be a bit different!)

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Papyrus on October 14, 2015, 12:41:40 pm
This is far and away the best thread on the forum!

I'm absolutely gob-smacked by the quality of your work and the speed you do it at. It would take me months to do anything as good as that and I would probably give up in despair long before that...

Fair play to you. Keep 'em coming!

 :thankyousign:

Chris
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 14, 2015, 12:47:07 pm
This is far and away the best thread on the forum!

I'm absolutely gob-smacked by the quality of your work and the speed you do it at. It would take me months to do anything as good as that and I would probably give up in despair long before that...

Fair play to you. Keep 'em coming!

 :thankyousign:

Chris

Thanks Chris, that's really kind of you! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on October 14, 2015, 01:03:37 pm
The Warship that I stripped has been primered and painted - just needs a couple of yellow ends and some decals!

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Looking better already!

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 15, 2015, 09:11:40 am
Not the smoothest runner on my test track (yet!) but certainly one of the prettiest... bar a little touching up of paint on the wheels and getting her running nicely, the E5 is done!

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 15, 2015, 09:15:27 am
Some of your best work Ozzy, even as a Diesel fan I think that E5 is lovely  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Caz on October 15, 2015, 09:18:34 am
Beautiful, you've excelled yourself, cracking job.   :thumbsup:   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Rabs on October 15, 2015, 09:32:03 am
You just keep getting better and better at this.  Anyone would think that you've been practising!  That's a beautiful little loco.
Apologies if it's been asked before in the thread but would you mind doing a step-by-step series of photos of how you do the lining?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 15, 2015, 10:05:14 am
You just keep getting better and better at this.  Anyone would think that you've been practising!  That's a beautiful little loco.
Apologies if it's been asked before in the thread but would you mind doing a step-by-step series of photos of how you do the lining?

Thanks Rabs! :)

Yes, of course, I'd be happy to do some step-by-step pics - next time I do a "tricky" one I'll get some shots! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on October 15, 2015, 11:20:44 am
Brilliant paint and lining job, are you trying to tempt me away from the glorious LMS
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 15, 2015, 11:23:57 am
Brilliant paint and lining job, are you trying to tempt me away from the glorious LMS

Just wait until you see the (LMS) crimson Jube I've so nearly finished... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on October 15, 2015, 07:43:39 pm
Brilliant paint and lining job, are you trying to tempt me away from the glorious LMS

Just wait until you see the (LMS) crimson Jube I've so nearly finished... ;)

I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 16, 2015, 09:26:22 am
What about a nice Prussian blue

Ta-dah! :) Not finished yet, obviously, and needs some touching up, but I love the colour - thanks for the suggestion, Paul!

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on October 16, 2015, 09:31:13 am
What about a nice Prussian blue

Ta-dah! :) Not finished yet, obviously, and needs some touching up, but I love the colour - thanks for the suggestion, Paul!

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Not a problem, being an avid follower of your updates, I may give up repainting locomotives for myself and just send them all to you... ;D which means I will have more time to track down new additions or even finish off some of my part built loco's  :angel:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 27, 2015, 10:32:06 am
Back from a works trip overseas and itching to get on with some of my N projects!

Before I do so, though, I have a birthday present to complete for my youngest's best friend - he's having my old test track, which after a little scenification and the addition of some spare buildings and trees is looking unrecognisable (but better, hopefully). Not finished yet, but here's the work so far:

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On the loco front, the paint job on the crimson Jube is now complete (just for you, paulprice!!) - she needs some servicing on the motor to get her running a bit more quietly, but I'm really pleased otherwise!:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on October 27, 2015, 10:38:37 am
Back from a works trip overseas and itching to get on with some of my N projects!

Before I do so, though, I have a birthday present to complete for my youngest's best friend - he's having my old test track, which after a little scenification and the addition of some spare buildings and trees is looking unrecognisable (but better, hopefully). Not finished yet, but here's the work so far:

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On the loco front, the paint job on the crimson Jube is now complete (just for you, paulprice!!) - she needs some servicing on the motor to get her running a bit more quietly, but I'm really pleased otherwise!:

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I WANT THE JUBE I WANT THE JUBE
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 27, 2015, 10:40:02 am
Fantastic work as usual  :thumbsup:

That 'Jube is almost enough to make me want one....

Almost....

Do one in Tripple Grey and let's see what happens (apart from Paul exploding  :D).

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on October 27, 2015, 10:41:29 am
Fantastic work as usual  :thumbsup:

That 'Jube is almost enough to make me want one....

Almost....

Do one in Tripple Grey and let's see what happens (apart from Paul exploding  :D).

Skyline2uk

That's it MR MODERATOR ...Skyline2uk is being outrageous............. :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 27, 2015, 05:36:38 pm
 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing: :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:

No use appealing to @Sprintex (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=583) or @Tank (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2), all you will get there is a vote for a "Swallow" and "NSE" livery 'Jubes respectively  :D

But steering back to the good work of Ozzy, I have to say the birthday present you are working on is really special. I know I would have...in fact would still....be bowled over if somebody made a layout like that for me  :laugh3:

Please do post "finished" (I know no layout can ever be really "finished") photos of the layout, perhaps with some more Ozzy creations suitably posed?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Sprintex on October 27, 2015, 05:40:07 pm
No use appealing to @Sprintex ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=583[/url]) or @Tank ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2[/url]), all you will get there is a vote for a "Swallow" and "NSE" livery 'Jubes respectively  :D


Damn right :D


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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 27, 2015, 05:47:14 pm
:laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing: :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:

No use appealing to @Sprintex ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=583[/url]) or @Tank ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2[/url]), all you will get there is a vote for a "Swallow" and "NSE" livery 'Jubes respectively  :D

But steering back to the good work of Ozzy, I have to say the birthday present you are working on is really special. I know I would have...in fact would still....be bowled over if somebody made a layout like that for me  :laugh3:

Please do post "finished" (I know no layout can ever be really "finished") photos of the layout, perhaps with some more Ozzy creations suitably posed?

Skyline2uk


Thanks, Skyline! :) I will definitely post more pics when it's all done - perhaps with a couple more completed Jubes and the odd re-liveried Warship draped alluringly across it... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on October 27, 2015, 08:37:36 pm
Smashing paint/lining job of the Jubilee :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 28, 2015, 09:32:06 am
It's so good to be back from my works trip and able to get back to fixing up some locos...

Here's that Warship I'm working on, now complete with yellow ends and black buffer beam, accompanied by: various bits of the formerly green and gold DB tender loco (now a nice Prussian blue); a Trix Ivatt in LMS crimson; a T3 in new green and black livery; and the provincial 47 (this has been a saga - I sprayed the roof with black cellulose-based aerosol and it reacted with the blue enamel underneath, crinkling up nastily. A scrape and a sand has removed the worst - I think a final coat of enamel black and grey on the panels and she'll be fine. But lesson learned!)

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The "awaiting final decals/varnish"department...:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 30, 2015, 09:18:35 am
Another day, another crimson LMS loco (nearly!) completed...

Here's the Royal Scot, looking lovely - but not yet running so well! She was happily chuffing round the test track last night, me looking smugly on thinking: "She looks so good I can almost see the smoke coming off her. Oh, I can see smoke coming off her..." The armature I'd used was a dud which was shorting, so a new motor is in order. Other than that, I'm really happy with this one.

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I've been stripping a few more loco bodies that I've acquired - I like the shape of this one but I have no idea what it is, what livery it should have  or what sort of chassis it should sit on - maybe Crab or Black 5? Any suggestions/advice gratefully received!

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on October 30, 2015, 09:23:22 am
I've been stripping a few more loco bodies that I've acquired - I like the shape of this one but I have no idea what it is, what livery it should have  or what sort of chassis it should sit on - maybe Crab or Black 5? Any suggestions/advice gratefully received!

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It's a LMS stanier 2-6-4T, designed for a Farish black 5 chassis with added rear bogie. Might be possible to fit a 4MT 2-6-4T chassis also.

HTH,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 30, 2015, 09:39:06 am
I've been stripping a few more loco bodies that I've acquired - I like the shape of this one but I have no idea what it is, what livery it should have  or what sort of chassis it should sit on - maybe Crab or Black 5? Any suggestions/advice gratefully received!

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It's a LMS stanier 2-6-4T, designed for a Farish black 5 chassis with added rear bogie. Might be possible to fit a 4MT 2-6-4T chassis also.

HTH,
Alan

You're a star, thanks Alan! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on October 30, 2015, 09:41:39 am
P.s. - Colour - LMS black or BR black are the only prototypical liveries from service time. I think the preserved one was painted LMS crimson with BR lining in preservation days though.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on October 30, 2015, 09:48:34 am
Another day, another crimson LMS loco (nearly!) completed...

Here's the Royal Scot, looking lovely - but not yet running so well! She was happily chuffing round the test track last night, me looking smugly on thinking: "She looks so good I can almost see the smoke coming off her. Oh, I can see smoke coming off her..." The armature I'd used was a dud which was shorting, so a new motor is in order. Other than that, I'm really happy with this one.

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The Stannier Tank looks rather good, I am working on one in lined black for Foster Street I have mounted it on a Black 5 chassis. Just out of interest what paint do you use for your crimson??
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 30, 2015, 09:52:42 am


The Stannier Tank looks rather good, I am working on one in lined black for Foster Street I have mounted it on a Black 5 chassis. Just out of interest what paint do you use for your crimson??

Hi Paul, I usually use Halfords Rover Damask Red aerosol for LMS crimson - touch-up work can be done with Humbrol 20 crimson gloss, which by happy chance is bang on the same shade! :)

Oh, and let your wallet be warned - that crimson Jube is going on ebay this weekend... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on October 30, 2015, 10:11:59 am
Don't mention Flea Bay, I always get beaten at the last minute :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 30, 2015, 10:16:05 am
Don't mention Flea Bay, I always get beaten at the last minute :'(

I know that feeling!! :(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 03, 2015, 11:54:53 am
You just keep getting better and better at this.  Anyone would think that you've been practising!  That's a beautiful little loco.
Apologies if it's been asked before in the thread but would you mind doing a step-by-step series of photos of how you do the lining?


Here's how I do the lining, using a Minitrix Ivatt I'm doing in a crimson livery as an example...:


Apply the (in this case) yellow-black-yellow lining decal, let it dry well, then using a fine permanent marker (or enamel paint on a brush) go over the outer yellow band:

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Same tender with a bit more done - tricky inner corners will be filled with a very fine brush. It takes time and requires a very steady hand, but I think the results are worth it! :)

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on November 03, 2015, 12:11:20 pm
You big show off lol  :D Brilliant work, I think I may send you my entire fleet  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 03, 2015, 12:23:05 pm
You big show off lol  :D Brilliant work, I think I may send you my entire fleet  :thankyousign:

Thanks, Paul! If you want to add to your fleet that crimson Jube is now on ebay... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 05, 2015, 09:42:16 am
Another Jube completed (sorry Paul, not crimson!) ;)

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The birthday present for my son's friend progresses. A bit more scatter to do - I'm not going to ballast it because it's not meant to be exhibition standard and I'm running short of time, but I think he'll love it:

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And remember that mystery continental black loco? Here it is after its trip to the Ozymandias paint shop. It should have pantographs, but since it's going to be given to a 7 year old, I felt it safer to leave them off... It runs amazingly nicely after some internal cleaning:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on November 05, 2015, 12:25:48 pm
I think the new Jube and the layout both look great. That kid's going to love it!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on November 05, 2015, 12:28:19 pm
I think the new Jube and the layout both look great. That kid's going to love it!

Wot he said ^^^
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 05, 2015, 12:38:27 pm
I think the new Jube and the layout both look great. That kid's going to love it!

He's not having the Jube...!! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 10, 2015, 09:25:37 am
Some updates from the workbench...

An Ivatt 2-6-0 tender in preservation crimson gets some numbers and lining:

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The blue Windsor Castle gets some nameplate lettering (boy, this is fiddly!):

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The Warship is coming on - just nameplates and varnish (and putting back together internally!) to go:

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Last but not least - the provincial 47. This has been a very long time in the making and the friend I'm doing it for has been very patient! Nearly there - just the cantrail lining to tidy up and a final satin varnish and it's done!

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on November 10, 2015, 10:47:56 am
You big show off, BUT seriously they look brilliant, If I could finish my repaint to half the standard you produce, I would have a lot of pristine locomotives in the fleet, instead of lots weathered to hide dodgy lining and finishes
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 12, 2015, 09:24:27 am
A bit of progress...

The Warship now has her name and works plates and is ready for a final satin varnish:

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I stripped and re-sprayed the Dutch 27 - much happier with the result this time:

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A new project that I'm doing for a friend - 57601 in what will be West Coast livery. The provincial 47 is in the background, painting finished and just needing final varnish:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 20, 2015, 10:19:11 am
Loco restoration has been severely curtailed this week due to a particularly hideous ear infection which has kept me duvet-bound... :(

A deadline is a deadline, though, and this weekend is my son's friend's birthday, so I had to complete the test track layout - and here it is!

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It's not exhibition standard, but that wasn't the brief - I think it'll make a seven-year-old very happy though!

Normal service of pics of locos in varying states of undress/repair will be resumed when I feel better! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on November 20, 2015, 10:35:21 am
Nice work, Gideon, and I hope your lughole is better soon :thumbsup:
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Post by: Ozymandias on November 20, 2015, 11:01:19 am
Nice work, Gideon, and I hope your lughole is better soon :thumbsup:

Cheers, Nobby! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: daveg on November 20, 2015, 11:27:43 am
Nice one!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Papyrus on November 20, 2015, 11:37:46 am
That's a lovely little layout - the seven-year-old is one lucky lad!

I still want to know where you find the time for all your modelling. Do you work 48-hour days, double-time at weekends??

Chris
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Post by: Dr Al on November 20, 2015, 11:48:14 am
A bit of progress...

The Warship now has her name and works plates and is ready for a final satin varnish:

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Warship looks great - who is the supplier of the works plates out of interest?

cheers,
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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 20, 2015, 12:02:45 pm
A bit of progress...

The Warship now has her name and works plates and is ready for a final satin varnish:

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Warship looks great - who is the supplier of the works plates out of interest?

cheers,
Alan

Thanks! :) I get the nameplates from Fox Transfers - they do some great etched products in addition to their decals.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 20, 2015, 12:05:52 pm
Thanks! :) I get the nameplates from Fox Transfers - they do some great etched products in addition to their decals.

Thanks - also the works plates on the loco solebars? Never seen those before - are the a Fox product too?

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 20, 2015, 12:10:25 pm
Thanks! :) I get the nameplates from Fox Transfers - they do some great etched products in addition to their decals.

Thanks - also the works plates on the loco solebars? Never seen those before - are the a Fox product too?

Cheers,
Alan

Yes, they come as part of the set - you have to have some very fine sprue cutters to get the little rascals off though! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 20, 2015, 03:15:42 pm
That's a lovely little layout - the seven-year-old is one lucky lad!

I still want to know where you find the time for all your modelling. Do you work 48-hour days, double-time at weekends??

Chris

In the evenings when the kids and Mrs have gone to bed - and normally far too late into the night! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 24, 2015, 09:46:51 am
More from the Despair Depot...

The Warship I've been working on was so nearly finished... I experimented with a very fine silver permanent marker to do the handrails and the ink has leached a bit - I'll touch up with a fine brush and re-do the satin varnish and it'll be fine. It runs like a new loco - other than the handrail glitch I'm very pleased:

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Finally finished the blue Windsor Castle:

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Very pleased with the nameplate lettering (if a little cross-eyed now!)

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A little Arnold 0-6-0 that I've fixed up - nothing cosmetic done here, but very satisfying to clean it all up inside and get it running sweetly again!

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So many locos, so little time... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 24, 2015, 09:53:37 am
Great jobs all round.

The Castle in particular looks very striking in blue....Farish should have done one!

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on November 24, 2015, 10:09:44 am
We want more LMS, more I tell you more more more
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 24, 2015, 10:34:25 am
We want more LMS, more I tell you more more more

I was thinking about doing the original Jube - Silver Jubilee - how would that grab you?! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on November 24, 2015, 12:28:49 pm
I need more Jubilees its not fair
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Post by: Zwilnik on November 24, 2015, 12:31:04 pm
Really liking the castle. looks great in blue!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 24, 2015, 12:33:51 pm
I need more Jubilees its not fair

I have a little stash of them waiting for repairs and paint - I could always make them... crimson... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on November 24, 2015, 02:24:02 pm
I need more Jubilees its not fair

I have a little stash of them waiting for repairs and paint - I could always make them... crimson... ;)

Its not fair I wish I had a stash, how many is in a stash exactly? The Domestic Overlord found out I have 5 and said it was too many :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 24, 2015, 04:13:46 pm
I need more Jubilees its not fair

I have a little stash of them waiting for repairs and paint - I could always make them... crimson... ;)

Its not fair I wish I had a stash, how many is in a stash exactly? The Domestic Overlord found out I have 5 and said it was too many :'(

I've got COUGHsevenCOUGH in varying states of disrepair - mainly broken tender trays. But I am determined to bring them all back to rude and chuffing health! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on November 24, 2015, 05:07:18 pm
I need more Jubilees its not fair

I have a little stash of them waiting for repairs and paint - I could always make them... crimson... ;)

Its not fair I wish I had a stash, how many is in a stash exactly? The Domestic Overlord found out I have 5 and said it was too many :'(

I've got COUGHsevenCOUGH in varying states of disrepair - mainly broken tender trays. But I am determined to bring them all back to rude and chuffing health! :)

Im going to SNITCH
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 24, 2015, 05:10:59 pm
I need more Jubilees its not fair

I have a little stash of them waiting for repairs and paint - I could always make them... crimson... ;)



Its not fair I wish I had a stash, how many is in a stash exactly? The Domestic Overlord found out I have 5 and said it was too many :'(

I've got COUGHsevenCOUGH in varying states of disrepair - mainly broken tender trays. But I am determined to bring them all back to rude and chuffing health! :)

Im going to SNITCH

Nooooooooo! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on November 24, 2015, 08:35:09 pm
I need more Jubilees its not fair

I have a little stash of them waiting for repairs and paint - I could always make them... crimson... ;)



Its not fair I wish I had a stash, how many is in a stash exactly? The Domestic Overlord found out I have 5 and said it was too many :'(

I've got COUGHsevenCOUGH in varying states of disrepair - mainly broken tender trays. But I am determined to bring them all back to rude and chuffing health! :)

Im going to SNITCH

Nooooooooo! ;)

I will think about it :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: joe cassidy on November 24, 2015, 08:48:48 pm
Before the Farish Jubilee came out I was very critical of those who had stashes of Peco Jubilees.

I imagine that the second hand price of the Peco Jubilee has come down since the Farish one became availabe and that some "stashers" have lost money on their "investment" ?

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Firefox on November 25, 2015, 05:55:43 am
Do people really stash locos as investment?

Such a shame, I would prefer to see them running and enjoyed. Which is why I find this thread fascinating, bringing old locos to life and giving them new homes.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 25, 2015, 10:17:31 am
I only stash mine with a view to restoring them and getting them to an appreciative new home! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 25, 2015, 10:40:19 am
I think your efforts to restore "broken" or "unloved" locos is to be praised Ozzy.

Not a massively "Eco" person myself, but waste is never good and even from that point of view you could say you are saving landfill by repairing so many locos.

But primarily you should be applauded for the skills displayed and quality of work which certainly acts an inspiration to the likes of me  :claphappy: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Firefox on November 25, 2015, 11:48:50 am
I prefer to reuse old things if I can. It is such a throwaway society otherwise.

And of course the locos in this thread are unique. Variety in the nation's rolling stock is to be admired.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on November 25, 2015, 04:12:00 pm
I only stash mine with a view to restoring them and getting them to an appreciative new home! :)
Ozy

I think anything anyone can do to restore older models so that they can continue to be used needs to be applauded, that's why I have my Hornby Dublo 3 rail
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 26, 2015, 09:40:22 am
A few more developments to share:

The Dutch 27 is coming along nicely:

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The preservation livery Ivatt tender is ready for a final coat of satin - I really like this livery!:

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I had a rather battered-looking Jinty that I wasn't sure with to do with until I came across a pic of an LMS ex-S&DJR version, still in dark blue - I love the colour, so here's mine, awaiting satin-ing:

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Another golden ochre 31 gets some lining:

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Many more on the go - pics of these as I get to them! :)



Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on November 26, 2015, 10:01:03 am
Where do you find the time or the patience Ozymandias I used to be able to do things but my eyes and fingers won't let me now.I try but usualy fail and give up some things turn out reasonable and at least Im proud that I've tried .
But I love to see your work it's lovely.
How you made the nameplate ALFIE for me I don't know he still loves  to see his loco running on Grandads layout .
I will have to get you to make me one for my granddaughter ELLA soon but she's only 14 weeks at the moment so plenty of time yet.
Cheers Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 26, 2015, 10:47:15 am
Where do you find the time or the patience Ozymandias I used to be able to do things but my eyes and fingers won't let me now.I try but usualy fail and give up some things turn out reasonable and at least Im proud that I've tried .
But I love to see your work it's lovely.
How you made the nameplate ALFIE for me I don't know he still loves  to see his loco running on Grandads layout .
I will have to get you to make me one for my granddaughter ELLA soon but she's only 14 weeks at the moment so plenty of time yet.
Cheers Bob

Thanks Bob! :)

I'd be delighted to do the plates for Ella - let me know when you have a loco ready to put them on (and when Ella will appreciate it without trying to use it as a teether...!) ;)

Best wishes,

Gideon
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 01, 2015, 09:34:11 am
More from the "nearly finished" department...


Ivatt 2-6-0 tender in preservation livery - needs a test run:

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Warship D832 "Onslaught" in preservation livery (always thought it appropriate that they did a Warship in battleship grey!) ;)  Needs windows and test running.

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Warship "Greyhound" - all finished and running, but both headlights come on at once, rather than being directional.  :hmmm:  Not sure enough of my electrics to know how to resolve this - anyone any ideas?!

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More as they roll on to the workbench... ;)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on December 01, 2015, 10:46:08 am
It may well be that it wasn't designed with directional headlights, but I suspect a diode on the circuit at each end would do the trick.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on December 01, 2015, 10:47:20 am
More excellent locomotives for future owners to appreciate and enjoy. As ever a real treat to see what miracles you turn out from such humble origins (even the none LMS loco's and those modern buzz box things :-[)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 01, 2015, 11:03:35 am
It may well be that it wasn't designed with directional headlights, but I suspect a diode on the circuit at each end would do the trick.

Thanks Zwilnik! It does have a diode at the "front end", so I'm presuming it must be directional - could the diode have blown or be wired wrong? I know nuffink about electrics!! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on December 01, 2015, 11:09:21 am
It may well be that it wasn't designed with directional headlights, but I suspect a diode on the circuit at each end would do the trick.

Thanks Zwilnik! It does have a diode at the "front end", so I'm presuming it must be directional - could the diode have blown or be wired wrong? I know nuffink about electrics!! ;)

it's quite possible. The basic function of a diode is it only allows current to flow in one direction. So when the current is set for one direction, the diode at one end will be blocking it from the lights and when in the other, another diode would be blocking the current from the other set of lights. (if the lights are LEDs, they are diodes themselves). It's possible the diode's blown and is simply shorting through but my knowledge of electronics is pretty basic too :) (something I intend to swot up on a bit and improve).
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on December 01, 2015, 11:44:35 am
It seems a common failing on early Minitrix that the lighting ends up illuminating in both directions. Removal of the old diodes and replacement with a new circuit should solve it  - any standard diodes with a reasonable current rating should suffice.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 01, 2015, 12:20:57 pm
It seems a common failing on early Minitrix that the lighting ends up illuminating in both directions. Removal of the old diodes and replacement with a new circuit should solve it  - any standard diode with a reasonable current rating should suffice.

Cheers,
Alan

Brilliant, thanks Alan! I think I have a spare "new old stock" diode somewhere in my Minitrix gubbins box - I'll try soldering this on and see if it makes a difference! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 02, 2015, 10:30:29 am
The blue Jinty's finished!:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 08, 2015, 10:11:26 am
The smallest and fiddliest repair I think I've ever done!

The tiny rivet holding the upper valve gear had broken on this Fleischmann 2-10-0 (centre of pic). Replaced with a jewellery pin and "washers" cut off the broken valve gear of a Farish B5, after many attempts using different methods and failing, and lots of swearing/supergluing my fingers together!

But it works!

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on December 08, 2015, 10:22:01 am
Excuse my ignorance but what is a 'B5' please?? :dunce:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 08, 2015, 10:23:39 am
Excuse my ignorance but what is a 'B5' please?? :dunce:

Sorry, a Black Five! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on December 08, 2015, 11:26:32 am
The poor Black 5  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 08, 2015, 11:29:03 am
The poor Black 5  :'( :'( :'(

I promise you, this valve gear was beyond repair - otherwise it would have been adorning one of my Fives!!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on December 08, 2015, 12:12:36 pm
The poor Black 5  :'( :'( :'(

I promise you, this valve gear was beyond repair - otherwise it would have been adorning one of my Fives!!

Your just saying that to make me feel better, that reminds me I still have not sent that Chassis down to you  :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 08, 2015, 12:18:22 pm
The poor Black 5  :'( :'( :'(

I promise you, this valve gear was beyond repair - otherwise it would have been adorning one of my Fives!!

Your just saying that to make me feel better, that reminds me I still have not sent that Chassis down to you  :'(

I can never have too many chassis!! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on December 08, 2015, 01:21:08 pm
The poor Black 5  :'( :'( :'(

I promise you, this valve gear was beyond repair - otherwise it would have been adorning one of my Fives!!

Your just saying that to make me feel better, that reminds me I still have not sent that Chassis down to you  :'(

I can never have too many chassis!! :)
I will want it back you know  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 08, 2015, 01:49:22 pm
The poor Black 5  :'( :'( :'(

I promise you, this valve gear was beyond repair - otherwise it would have been adorning one of my Fives!!

Your just saying that to make me feel better, that reminds me I still have not sent that Chassis down to you  :'(

I can never have too many chassis!! :)
I will want it back you know  :goggleeyes:

That did make me laugh! Fear not, I wouldn't kidnap your chassis... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 09, 2015, 11:26:52 am
More from the Dining Room Table of Despair... ;)

Some 57's I'm doing for a friend - coming along nicely!:

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The Dutch 27 is nearly there:

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A Minitrix dock tank goes LMS - just needs a coat of satin:

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Warships Greyhound and Onslaught (the latter in grey preservation livery) are complete!:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Caz on December 09, 2015, 11:30:09 am
Very nice, I've got one of those somewhere that my son gave me some while ago, will have to see if I can get it working and commission you to give the body a makeover like this.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/11/thumb_32735.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=32735)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 09, 2015, 11:31:56 am
Very nice, I've got one of those somewhere that my son gave me some while ago, will have to see if I can get it working and commission you to give the body a makeover like this.

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Thanks Caz - I'd be delighted to! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 10, 2015, 11:58:03 am
Another crimson Ivatt 2-6-2 almost ready for a final coat of satin (crimson LMS, paulprice, it's calling to you..) ;)

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 14, 2015, 10:07:34 am
The Dutch 27 is done!

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A group of restored diesels go for an outing to the sidings...

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 16, 2015, 10:31:42 am
Got some more decals done - that lime green Jube is now a sober and proper black, on its way to becoming 5552 "Silver Jubilee", the grey (formerly green and gold!) German tank gets some "fresh out of the factory" black lining and the Southern E5 is under way...

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on December 16, 2015, 12:27:33 pm
Hi Ozymandias what colour have you used on the roof of the Grey Warship is it really some kind of yellow .?
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 16, 2015, 12:36:49 pm
Hi Ozymandias what colour have you used on the roof of the Grey Warship is it really some kind of yellow .?
Bob


Hi Bob, yes it really is that colour on the real loco, or very close to! I've used humbrol 103 cream, I think.

You can see the real thing here: http://tomcurtisrailgallery.weebly.com/uploads/6/9/0/3/6903499/d832crowcombe0900mn110611.jpg (http://tomcurtisrailgallery.weebly.com/uploads/6/9/0/3/6903499/d832crowcombe0900mn110611.jpg)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 06, 2016, 09:30:55 am
Happy New Year, all! :)

I've kept busy over the holidays. Remember that hideous lime green Peco Jube a few pages back? Look at her now as 5552 Silver Jubilee...

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Plenty more on the go - pics to follow!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 07, 2016, 11:50:46 am
A Minitrix 2-10-0 gets a WWII period makeover:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 11, 2016, 09:46:24 am
Some tanks get numbers and lining...

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 14, 2016, 10:40:47 am
LMS Jinty, now finished!

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 25, 2016, 10:44:09 am
A couple of stripped and resprayed Warships get the "full yellow end" treatment....

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 25, 2016, 11:00:00 am
Excellent work as usual Ozzy :thumbsup:

I look at everything you post so do keep the updates comming.

Ref the full yellow ends on the 'ships above, are people offended by the "custard dipped" livery on these as much as some are by the Blue Pullman for example?

I personally like the extra colour, but on older locos which pre-date the yellow warning regs, some don't.

I ask this as I saw a custard BP for sale this weekend at a show, still north of £200.00. Believe other retailers ate struggling to clear the last ones.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 25, 2016, 11:37:21 am
Excellent work as usual Ozzy :thumbsup:

I look at everything you post so do keep the updates comming.

Ref the full yellow ends on the 'ships above, are people offended by the "custard dipped" livery on these as much as some are by the Blue Pullman for example?

I personally like the extra colour, but on older locos which pre-date the yellow warning regs, some don't.

I ask this as I saw a custard BP for sale this weekend at a show, still north of £200.00. Believe other retailers ate struggling to clear the last ones.

Skyline2uk

Thanks Skyline! :)

No-one's told me they don't like the added custard - maybe people are too polite...! ;)

I tend to go either full yellow or not at all with Warships, because the half yellow panels are all curves and corners and are a pain to get right (so pure laziness on my part!). I like both looks, but like you I think the extra colour adds something to the loco. I usually do locos that are not normally modelled (there are so many blue Hermeses and green Intrepids out there!), so hopefully that will make them a bit more popular! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on January 25, 2016, 01:04:09 pm
A couple of stripped and resprayed Warships get the "full yellow end" treatment....

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Great work as usual, you put the rest of us to shame  :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: dannyboy on January 25, 2016, 10:53:51 pm
A couple of stripped and resprayed Warships get the "full yellow end" treatment....

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Great work as usual, you put the rest of us to shame  :'(

I have to agree with Paul. Looking at the finish on those bodies, you could easily think that they had just come from the factory  :). David.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: B1uejay on February 06, 2016, 01:23:14 pm
Hi Oz,

Loving your work!

Being a Warship fan and having a few of my own detailing projects on going, can you please tell me what you do for the body side stripe (transfer, paint, colour) and also what you do to make the numbered head codes?

Cheers,

Rich.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: joe cassidy on February 06, 2016, 01:56:27 pm
Great work as usual, you put the rest of us to shame  :'(

Paul, don't be modest - you're up there with the best of them.

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on February 07, 2016, 03:35:29 pm
Great work as usual, you put the rest of us to shame  :'(

Paul, don't be modest - you're up there with the best of them.

Best regards,


Joe
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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 08, 2016, 09:14:02 am
Hi Oz,

Loving your work!

Being a Warship fan and having a few of my own detailing projects on going, can you please tell me what you do for the body side stripe (transfer, paint, colour) and also what you do to make the numbered head codes?

Cheers,

Rich.

Thanks Rich!

For the body stripe I use Fox transfers white lining, 1mm depth I think. For headcodes it's Fox transfers again, just applied straight to the "glass" and overcoated with varnish to protect it.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 08, 2016, 11:53:37 am
Loco work has been rather curtailed of late, as for sad but relatively amicable family reasons I have been moving out of home and into a new flat.

I am dangerously close to being organised in my new abode, so normal service will resume at the Despair Depot very shortly.

My workbench is set up, my tools and paints are to hand and I have boxes (and boxes and boxes) of locos in need of love, repair and repainting.

"Believe me I shall soon return.
My fires are banked, but still they burn...
" :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: scotsoft on February 08, 2016, 11:59:35 am
I am sorry to hear about your amicable move, these are never easy to deal with. However it is better being amicable than hostile.

Cheers John.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on February 08, 2016, 05:20:00 pm
Loco work has been rather curtailed of late, as for sad but relatively amicable family reasons I have been moving out of home and into a new flat.

I am dangerously close to being organised in my new abode, so normal service will resume at the Despair Depot very shortly.

My workbench is set up, my tools and paints are to hand and I have boxes (and boxes and boxes) of locos in need of love, repair and repainting.

"Believe me I shall soon return.
My fires are banked, but still they burn...
" :)

Matey sorry to hear your latest news  :sorrysign:, but at least you have got things under control, now the important thing GET BACK TO PRODUCING STUNNING LOCOMOTIVES  :claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on February 08, 2016, 10:42:44 pm
That's the spirit Oz!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 09, 2016, 09:35:35 am
Thanks guys! :) I'm looking forward to having the life-affirming scent of cellulose thinners and Humbrol paints permeating my new sitting room! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on February 09, 2016, 10:23:33 am
Thanks guys! :) I'm looking forward to having the life-affirming scent of cellulose thinners and Humbrol paints permeating my new sitting room! ;)

The way any decent house should smell
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on February 09, 2016, 12:47:54 pm
Thanks guys! :) I'm looking forward to having the life-affirming scent of cellulose thinners and Humbrol paints permeating my new sitting room! ;)

The way any decent house should smell

Dont forget the residual aroma of last night's curry
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 17, 2016, 12:02:20 pm
Hurrah! My workbench is operational and covered in loco bodies/paints/tools, my evenings are my own and I have been able to do some loco work for the first time in what feels like ages! :)

Another Warship finished - D818 "Glory" in BR maroon:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: maridunian on February 17, 2016, 12:52:25 pm
Nasty derailment there - good thing it landed on a paper towel! ;-)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on February 17, 2016, 01:02:46 pm
That's a funny looking Steam engine?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on February 17, 2016, 02:20:02 pm
Oz - although you would probably know if you saw one again, you should consider putting some kind of marking / logo on the inside of your bodies. That way when loco bodies came up again on the secondhand market they could be identified as yours. You never know, they might start commanding their own prices, since your work is good.

Just a thought and it would have to be something that wasn't so easy to replicate (like a dob of paint would be).

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on February 17, 2016, 02:40:39 pm
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Oz - have you thought of overpainting the wheels faces, just to tidy them up and really finish it off? Would definitely add something.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 17, 2016, 03:00:59 pm
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Oz - have you thought of overpainting the wheels faces, just to tidy them up and really finish it off? Would definitely add something.

Cheers,
Alan

Curses, my slackness has been spotted...! ;) Yes, you're right, I should do the wheels - I have done on other ones I've restored. I shall set about them with a brush this evening...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: maridunian on February 17, 2016, 03:37:05 pm
A Sharpie Permanent Marker is a quick way to give (or touch-up) an oily black sheen on wheels - or wipe off immediately with a finger to get a matter effect.

Mike
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: dannyboy on February 17, 2016, 09:31:30 pm
or wipe off immediately with a finger to get a matter effect.

Mike

Who wants a matte effect black finger  :hmmm:  :). David.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on February 18, 2016, 09:48:29 am
I had a nice Satin black hand, after I applied a lovely coat of paint to a Duchess and my left hand at the same time, I'm not stupid though the hand holding the paint can had a glove on it  :dunce: :dunce:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: daveg on February 18, 2016, 10:29:34 am
I had a nice Satin black hand, after I applied a lovely coat of paint to a Duchess and my left hand at the same time, I'm not stupid though the hand holding the paint can had a glove on it  :dunce: :dunce:

Ah, good! It's not just me then!  ::)

Dave G
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on February 18, 2016, 03:54:00 pm
I had a nice Satin black hand, after I applied a lovely coat of paint to a Duchess and my left hand at the same time, I'm not stupid though the hand holding the paint can had a glove on it  :dunce: :dunce:

Ah, good! It's not just me then!  ::)

Dave G

Cool we should start a club
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 25, 2016, 09:42:51 am
Remember the green and gold horrors from a while back?:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/17/thumb_29590.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=29590)

Well now the tank loco looks like this:

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She'll never be the quietest or smoothest runner - she's quite an old lady - but she looks a treat in her "just out of the factory" livery and runs very strongly. A couple of bits of touching up to do and she's done. Now to the tender loco...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: maridunian on February 25, 2016, 10:00:13 am
Another excellent restoration! I've forgotten what make this one is?

I'm always struck by the contrast between the slightly cruder locos of the 80s, which can still run very strongly and so many immaculate looking models of today that fail the most basic realism test - pulling a train of realistic length!

Mike
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: David Asquith on February 25, 2016, 10:01:09 am
Wow!  What a transformation.  Looks brilliant.

Dave
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 25, 2016, 10:15:01 am
Another excellent restoration! I've forgotten what make this one is?



Thanks Mike! :) Both these locos are Arnold Rapidos - they're marked as made in West Germany, so that dates them pre-1990. I do love giving such old locos a new lease of life.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on February 25, 2016, 10:57:47 am
Quick question what paint do you use for LNER apple green?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 25, 2016, 11:12:15 am
Quick question what paint do you use for LNER apple green?

Ooh gosh - it's been a long time since I've done that livery - um, I think last time I used Phoenix Doncaster Green (or was it Railmatch Darlington Green...?)  :hmmm:

I'll have a rummage through my paints box tonight! I did try looking for a Halfords car shade that would do, but there's nothing even close to apple green that I could see.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on February 25, 2016, 12:11:43 pm
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I did try looking for a Halfords car shade that would do, but there's nothing even close to apple green that I could see.

After today perhaps Halfords should look at selling this colour, along with "BR Green"....

Actually, on second thoughts, judging by how militant some rail enthusiasts can get, this may not be a great plan.....enough road rage as it is!

Anyway, the German tank is right up there with your best Ozz, lovely to think she has been saved from a life in a draw or worse.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on February 26, 2016, 12:46:37 pm
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I did try looking for a Halfords car shade that would do, but there's nothing even close to apple green that I could see.

After today perhaps Halfords should look at selling this colour, along with "BR Green"....


Skyline2uk

Hi Skyline, for BR/GWR green I use Rover Brooklands Green from Halfords - it looks pretty good. But a good approximation of apple green is still like hens' teeth...  Glad you like the German tank!  :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 01, 2016, 10:52:29 am
The Ozymandias Despair Depot is fully back in business! :)

I actually had some time to get on with some locos last night...


Another golden ochre 31 and the formerly green and gold German loco get some decals:

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Warships, Warships everywhere...

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OK, I admit it - I'm a bit proud of this one - a Trix Ivatt tender in preservation livery. I finished the paintwork ages ago but have been struggling to get the gear and electrics right - now I have, and it runs wonderfully!

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More soon! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on March 01, 2016, 12:41:25 pm
As ever truly wonderful work, is that an LMS tender I can see in the background of one photo
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Post by: Ozymandias on March 01, 2016, 12:50:49 pm
As ever truly wonderful work, is that an LMS tender I can see in the background of one photo

Well spotted, Paul! :) Yes, that's the tender for the Royal Scot, whose recalcitrant motor and valve gear is getting the treatment tonight - along with some diesels that need a primering.

The Scot and the Ivatt will both be for sale...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on March 01, 2016, 01:56:54 pm
As ever truly wonderful work, is that an LMS tender I can see in the background of one photo

Well spotted, Paul! :) Yes, that's the tender for the Royal Scot, whose recalcitrant motor and valve gear is getting the treatment tonight - along with some diesels that need a primering.

The Scot and the Ivatt will both be for sale...

I can already feel the pains in my wallet  :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 01, 2016, 02:20:09 pm
As ever truly wonderful work, is that an LMS tender I can see in the background of one photo

Well spotted, Paul! :) Yes, that's the tender for the Royal Scot, whose recalcitrant motor and valve gear is getting the treatment tonight - along with some diesels that need a primering.

The Scot and the Ivatt will both be for sale...

I can already feel the pains in my wallet  :D

It gets worse - I'm doing another "Silver Jubilee" LMS Peco Jube in black with silver numbering...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on March 01, 2016, 02:26:44 pm
That's it I'm now officially SULKING  :P
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: DesertHound on March 02, 2016, 06:39:38 am
I've seen your Ivatt on fleabay Oz - nice work! I'm not really into Trix but that looks stunning in Maroon. I've even put a cheeky bid in ... N the, I said cheeky, which means I'm probably nowhere near the final bid price. Besides, now I've mentioned it I've probably just pushed the price up further out of reach!  :veryangry:

Nice work all the same. If you come across any old Farish diesel bodies then it would be great to see you do some of those. I'm very happy with the two you did for me.

Kindest

Dan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 02, 2016, 09:21:41 am
I've seen your Ivatt on fleabay Oz - nice work! I'm not really into Trix but that looks stunning in Maroon. I've even put a cheeky bid in ... N the, I said cheeky, which means I'm probably nowhere near the final bid price. Besides, now I've mentioned it I've probably just pushed the price up further out of reach!  :veryangry:

Nice work all the same. If you come across any old Farish diesel bodies then it would be great to see you do some of those. I'm very happy with the two you did for me.

Kindest

Dan

Thanks Dan! :)

I do have loads of Farish diesel bodies, which are sitting in the "now I really must get on and do something with these" box...! Some are half-sprayed, some yet to start - but they will make their way on to the Despair Depot production line soon! :)

Best wishes,

Gideon
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on March 02, 2016, 09:57:15 am
Gideon

What do you mean the Despair Depot production line, cheer up  :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 02, 2016, 10:00:47 am
Gideon

What do you mean the Despair Depot production line, cheer up  :D

Ha! :) Good point, Paul - I don't mean to make it sound like a chore by saying production line, I love restoring these little beauties - it's just that I seem to have acquired, um, quite a few of them... ;)

It's only the "Despair Depot" because of the line from Ozymandias, "Look on my works, Ye Mighty, and despair."

I enjoy it really... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 02, 2016, 10:04:48 am
...and here's D818 "Glory", finished and, um, glorious...

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 08, 2016, 09:48:02 am
A couple of newly-refurbished Minitrix 0-6-0's - A T3 gets a nice green livery and a dock tank goes LMS:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 09, 2016, 09:48:13 am
Another Warship (D801 Vanguard) and a BR Pannier come out of the paint shop...:

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Lots more going on behind the scenes - pics soon!

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Milton Rail on March 10, 2016, 11:32:39 am
I am a latecomer to your thread, but so glad I found it, I share your (and others) ideal of trying to breathe new life into loco's at the end of their service - some cracking work you have produced and it has been fun tracking back through ebay to find the ones you sold (without looking like a stalker!).  Your thread has inspired me to look again at my box of sorry spares & repairs and look at what they could be come rather than what they have become, though I don't know where you find them all!

Will follow your thread with interest now (and your ebay listings) - was sorry to read about your domestic changes, but hope that is all going ok (its a road I have also trodden)

Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 10, 2016, 11:43:51 am
I am a latecomer to your thread, but so glad I found it, I share your (and others) ideal of trying to breathe new life into loco's at the end of their service - some cracking work you have produced and it has been fun tracking back through ebay to find the ones you sold (without looking like a stalker!).  Your thread has inspired me to look again at my box of sorry spares & repairs and look at what they could be come rather than what they have become, though I don't know where you find them all!

Will follow your thread with interest now (and your ebay listings) - was sorry to read about your domestic changes, but hope that is all going ok (its a road I have also trodden)

Cheers,
Andrew

Thanks Andrew - your kind comments and support are both hugely appreciated! :)  :NGaugersRule:

Cheers,

Gideon
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Milton Rail on March 11, 2016, 07:15:48 pm
evening Oz, thanks for your kind comments on my thread, much appreciated - I was hoping to see if you could help me with a project of my own (inspired entirely by you) - I have acquired a Dapol M7 and want to re-invent it as Caledonian Railway 0-4-4 Tank loco number 419 as preserved at the SRPS at Bo'Ness (will need some minor amendments, but it is pretty close to start with).  I am struggling to find 2mm Caledonian Railway transfers at Fox, Railtec, precision labels ... any thoughts on where else I can try given your impressive track record?  I am hoping I can lift the linings from other transfer sets as it is white-black-white in all the usual places.  Any thoughts you have would be most welcome.... the matter of the correct colour is not an easy one either, but I have a few colours to choose from that should fit the bill

Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 14, 2016, 09:18:46 am
evening Oz, thanks for your kind comments on my thread, much appreciated - I was hoping to see if you could help me with a project of my own (inspired entirely by you) - I have acquired a Dapol M7 and want to re-invent it as Caledonian Railway 0-4-4 Tank loco number 419 as preserved at the SRPS at Bo'Ness (will need some minor amendments, but it is pretty close to start with).  I am struggling to find 2mm Caledonian Railway transfers at Fox, Railtec, precision labels ... any thoughts on where else I can try given your impressive track record?  I am hoping I can lift the linings from other transfer sets as it is white-black-white in all the usual places.  Any thoughts you have would be most welcome.... the matter of the correct colour is not an easy one either, but I have a few colours to choose from that should fit the bill

Cheers,
Andrew

Hi Andrew,

That's a lovely subject to model! :) For the lettering, I too have struggled to find proper CR letters, but what you could do is get Fox transfers generic alphabets (Futura/Franklin font, I think?) in red and gold, put on the CR in red slightly off-centre (down and to the left) and then overlay with the gold letters to create the drop shadow. You could even do black, red, gold if you wanted to be really fiddly! ;)

For the colour, that doesn't look a million miles away from the Humbrol French blue I used on Robert the Devil and the blue Windsor Castle (see earlier pages of this thread) - or BR steam loco blue.

Cheers,

Gideon
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 16, 2016, 10:10:53 am
Progress! :)

I've finally finished the E5 Southern tank after lots of chassis-shaping:

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The Royal Scot is now also up and running:

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A Jube, a 31, a dock tank, a couple of 47s and a Warship in varying stages of development on top of the cardboard box professional spray booth I use...

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It's not a mess, you just don't understand my system.... ;)

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Steve Brassett on March 16, 2016, 10:14:57 am

It's not a mess, you just don't understand my system.... ;)

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Seems clear to me.  Everything is within reach.  :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on March 16, 2016, 10:40:39 am
It looks too tidy for me, have you had the cleaners in before you took the photos?? I smell photo fixing going on  :D :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on March 16, 2016, 10:45:09 am
Im amazed you keep finding Jubes and Dock tanks to work on, I can never find bargain ones to work on when I want one.

In fact now I have started looking for a Dock tank for the fleet the prices has soared  :'( I smell a conspiracy
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 16, 2016, 10:59:14 am
Im amazed you keep finding Jubes and Dock tanks to work on, I can never find bargain ones to work on when I want one.

In fact now I have started looking for a Dock tank for the fleet the prices has soared  :'( I smell a conspiracy


I've been amassing them for ages... it's just that my speed of amassment outstrips my speed of repair! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on March 16, 2016, 10:59:59 am
Hi Ozy I wish my workbench and shed was as tidy as that my wife would have a fit , in fact she would probably die of shock.
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 16, 2016, 11:04:11 am
Hi Ozy I wish my workbench and shed was as tidy as that my wife would have a fit , in fact she would probably die of shock.
Bob

Thanks Bob! What you can't see in the pic is the state of the rest of the room... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 17, 2016, 11:21:24 am
I do love a quick and easy job!

This little Arnold arrived grubby of body and minus a coupling rod. Five minutes in soapy water with a toothbrush, a new set of wheels plus coupling rod (which I happened to have) and voila! A really nice little loco that runs like a treat. :)


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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 22, 2016, 09:54:15 am
Get me and my posh new spray booth.... ;)

A little investment to stop everything in the flat being coated in satin varnish spray...

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on March 22, 2016, 11:32:51 am
I'm only allowed a cardboard box when I spray  :'( :'(

and I mean spray paint, for all you mucky minded chaps out there  :angel:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 22, 2016, 12:02:40 pm
I'm only allowed a cardboard box when I spray  :'( :'(

and I mean spray paint, for all you mucky minded chaps out there  :angel:

That's what I was using, but I found particularly with varnish that it would all come billowing straight back out at me, coating me/my glasses/clothes/desk/carpet in sticky unpleasantness.

You could sell the idea to SWMBO on the basis that it's less messy... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on March 22, 2016, 12:26:56 pm
I'm only allowed a cardboard box when I spray  :'( :'(

and I mean spray paint, for all you mucky minded chaps out there  :angel:

That's what I was using, but I found particularly with varnish that it would all come billowing straight back out at me, coating me/my glasses/clothes/desk/carpet in sticky unpleasantness.

You could sell the idea to SWMBO on the basis that it's less messy... ;)

I think the Domestics Overlord (aka Tim) is use to me be a sticky mess, that's why I get sent out into the yard, apparently it easier to just turn the hose on me to clean me up, still I must not complain it will be getting warmer soon, so the ice cold water will be refreshing then  :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: daveg on March 22, 2016, 12:29:53 pm
That's all very well PP, but don't you find the scrub down with the wire wool makes your eyes water?  :worried:

Dave G
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 22, 2016, 12:38:03 pm
I'm only allowed a cardboard box when I spray  :'( :'(

and I mean spray paint, for all you mucky minded chaps out there  :angel:

That's what I was using, but I found particularly with varnish that it would all come billowing straight back out at me, coating me/my glasses/clothes/desk/carpet in sticky unpleasantness.

You could sell the idea to SWMBO on the basis that it's less messy... ;)

I think the Domestics Overlord (aka Tim) is use to me be a sticky mess, that's why I get sent out into the yard, apparently it easier to just turn the hose on me to clean me up, still I must not complain it will be getting warmer soon, so the ice cold water will be refreshing then  :D

Maybe a rub down with IPA in the winter months would be kinder... certainly warmer... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on March 22, 2016, 01:57:00 pm
That's all very well PP, but don't you find the scrub down with the wire wool makes your eyes water?  :worried:

Dave G

Dave

Its hard to tell the difference between tears or my eyes watering, I have a hard life  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on March 22, 2016, 01:58:44 pm
I'm only allowed a cardboard box when I spray  :'( :'(

and I mean spray paint, for all you mucky minded chaps out there  :angel:

That's what I was using, but I found particularly with varnish that it would all come billowing straight back out at me, coating me/my glasses/clothes/desk/carpet in sticky unpleasantness.

You could sell the idea to SWMBO on the basis that it's less messy... ;)

I think the Domestics Overlord (aka Tim) is use to me be a sticky mess, that's why I get sent out into the yard, apparently it easier to just turn the hose on me to clean me up, still I must not complain it will be getting warmer soon, so the ice cold water will be refreshing then  :D

Maybe a rub down with IPA in the winter months would be kinder... certainly warmer... ;)

Is it as warm as Human Kindness is supposed to feel like???

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Malcolm on March 22, 2016, 02:16:35 pm
Maybe a rub down with IPA in the winter months would be kinder... certainly warmer... ;)
warmer ? are we perhaps forgetting "Latent Heat of Evaporation", quite a cooling effect when the alcohol evaporates. Oh, unless one were to follow the dousing of IPA with an immolation ?  :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: daveg on March 22, 2016, 03:41:28 pm
That's all very well PP, but don't you find the scrub down with the wire wool makes your eyes water?  :worried:

Dave G

Dave

Its hard to tell the difference between tears or my eyes watering, I have a hard life  :'( :'(

My heart bleeds for you!  :P

Dave G
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Railwaygun on March 22, 2016, 10:34:31 pm
I'm only allowed a cardboard box when I spray  :'( :'(

and I mean spray paint, for all you mucky minded chaps out there  :angel:

That's what I was using, but I found particularly with varnish that it would all come billowing straight back out at me, coating me/my glasses/clothes/desk/carpet in sticky unpleasantness.

You could sell the idea to SWMBO on the basis that it's less messy... ;)

I fitted an old kitchen ventilation unit to the top of my cardboard box and netted it outside - keep an eye on local skips! Seems to work well.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on March 24, 2016, 12:54:05 pm
Just arrived in the post and looking great in the (simulated) sunshine :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37028.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37028)

Not had a chance to test run her yet, but she looks great!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 24, 2016, 12:57:59 pm
Just arrived in the post and looking great in the (simulated) sunshine :)

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37028.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37028[/url])

Not had a chance to test run her yet, but she looks great!


 :) Glad she got to you safely!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: MrDobilina on March 24, 2016, 02:07:54 pm
Just arrived in the post and looking great in the (simulated) sunshine :)

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37028.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37028[/url])

Not had a chance to test run her yet, but she looks great!


Wow looking good! Haven't seen many locos in white

On a side now, is that bridge scratch built? great waterfall as well!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on March 24, 2016, 02:27:42 pm
Just arrived in the post and looking great in the (simulated) sunshine :)

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37028.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37028[/url])

Not had a chance to test run her yet, but she looks great!


Wow looking good! Haven't seen many locos in white

On a side now, is that bridge scratch built? great waterfall as well!


It's "photographic grey" (there was a bit of a discussion about it in this thread when Oz was painting her).

The bridge is the Ratio kit + extension but chopped down a bit to suit the height needed. Then weathered a lot :) The layout's in a bit of a state at the moment, but still has the 1 photogenic spot ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 29, 2016, 10:18:19 am
The start of The Plan...

I live close to the Bluebell Railway, and whenever I take my boys on it they say "Daddy, you should make an N Gauge version of..." whichever loco is pulling us that day.

So... that's what I'm going to do - model all the locos on the Bluebell for when I finally get my layout completed, starting with this, which will become Southern S15 number 847:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on March 29, 2016, 10:25:22 am
The start of The Plan...

I live close to the Bluebell Railway, and whenever I take my boys on it they say "Daddy, you should make an N Gauge version of..." whichever loco is pulling us that day.

So... that's what I'm going to do - model all the locos on the Bluebell for when I finally get my layout completed, starting with this, which will become Southern S15 number 847:

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That's one hell of a project - I believe there are currently around 30 locos on the Bluebell!!
Even if you do one every 3 months that's around 8 years to produce the lot. Good luck with that.
 :) :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on March 29, 2016, 11:35:10 am
The start of The Plan...

I live close to the Bluebell Railway, and whenever I take my boys on it they say "Daddy, you should make an N Gauge version of..." whichever loco is pulling us that day.

So... that's what I'm going to do - model all the locos on the Bluebell for when I finally get my layout completed, starting with this, which will become Southern S15 number 847:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 29, 2016, 11:37:30 am
The start of The Plan...

I live close to the Bluebell Railway, and whenever I take my boys on it they say "Daddy, you should make an N Gauge version of..." whichever loco is pulling us that day.

So... that's what I'm going to do - model all the locos on the Bluebell for when I finally get my layout completed, starting with this, which will become Southern S15 number 847:

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I fear I may not be of help keeping you out of trouble, Paul - I have more LMS Jubes on the go, too... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on March 29, 2016, 12:18:15 pm
You appear to have a bit of a mixture there, the loco body looks like the Langley, the tender looks like the BHE one.

Difficult to tell from the photo but spacing and size of the drivers doesn't look quite right, motion is Fleischmann though so it probably is the photo.

For 847 (or any of the Maunsell built ones) the cab roof and chimney of the Langley body is wrong. A good source of pics is SEmG

http://www.semgonline.com/steam/s15class_1.html (http://www.semgonline.com/steam/s15class_1.html)

My attempt (wrongly numbered) at a Maunsell  version using Langley and BHE bits and with a Minitrix tender drive instead of the Fleischmann. One problem I found was the bogie side frames, I had Worsley works do some etched ones, and added some cast Axle boxes and springs. (BHE or Ultima)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QvxqeG-TJ_c/TZi60HGEpdI/AAAAAAAACC8/rbfY_Y9hZMIkv-D0VoI2sn5bC2h0oRfowCCo/s800-Ic42/837S15.jpg)

If I was doing one now, I would use a Union Mills drive with an extra axle added, the Minitrix drive is a bit wide for the BHE tender, so needs either some filing or making up slightly wider ends.

The same kit mix of Langley and BHE will also make an H15 using the Minitrix 4-6-0 chassis but with Fleischmann motion as the Minitrix motion would "drive" the front drivers

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xIfnM3GdcC4/TZi6u3rmS6I/AAAAAAAACCg/CtOGe7VwYoEKYqo0WqkvEg9ZAYQRpe7XACCo/s800-Ic42/UrieH15.jpg)


Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on March 29, 2016, 12:28:36 pm
The start of The Plan...

I live close to the Bluebell Railway, and whenever I take my boys on it they say "Daddy, you should make an N Gauge version of..." whichever loco is pulling us that day.

So... that's what I'm going to do - model all the locos on the Bluebell for when I finally get my layout completed, starting with this, which will become Southern S15 number 847:

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I fear I may not be of help keeping you out of trouble, Paul - I have more LMS Jubes on the go, too... ;)

You have more Jubes than me its not fair  :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on March 29, 2016, 12:37:06 pm
You appear to have a bit of a mixture there, the loco body looks like the Langley, the tender looks like the BHE one.

Difficult to tell from the photo but spacing and size of the drivers doesn't look quite right, motion is Fleischmann though so it probably is the photo.

For 847 (or any of the Maunsell built ones) the cab roof and chimney of the Langley body is wrong. A good source of pics is SEmG

[url]http://www.semgonline.com/steam/s15class_1.html[/url] ([url]http://www.semgonline.com/steam/s15class_1.html[/url])

My attempt (wrongly numbered) at a Maunsell  version using Langley and BHE bits and with a Minitrix tender drive instead of the Fleischmann. One problem I found was the bogie side frames, I had Worsley works do some etched ones, and added some cast Axle boxes and springs. (BHE or Ultima)

([url]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QvxqeG-TJ_c/TZi60HGEpdI/AAAAAAAACC8/rbfY_Y9hZMIkv-D0VoI2sn5bC2h0oRfowCCo/s800-Ic42/837S15.jpg[/url])

If I was doing one now, I would use a Union Mills drive with an extra axle added, the Minitrix drive is a bit wide for the BHE tender, so needs either some filing or making up slightly wider ends.

The same kit mix of Langley and BHE will also make an H15 using the Minitrix 4-6-0 chassis but with Fleischmann motion as the Minitrix motion would "drive" the front drivers

([url]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xIfnM3GdcC4/TZi6u3rmS6I/AAAAAAAACCg/CtOGe7VwYoEKYqo0WqkvEg9ZAYQRpe7XACCo/s800-Ic42/UrieH15.jpg[/url])


Thanks Mike!

I've notice that the tender on the real 847 is different to the one this model came with, it's much flatter-sided and has three cylindrical tanks on top. I may have to make this from scratch or butcher and old Lima Fowler tender. The funnel's too spindly as  well. It doesn't have to be rivet-perfect, but I want to try and do the original justice!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on March 29, 2016, 01:26:52 pm
Looking closer, the tender you have does look more like the Langley Drummong pattern "watercart" one that has had bogie side frames added. The BHE one has the flared top of the earlier Urie version, BHE do the tender body as a kit labelled as being for the N15, the same tender was used by the Urie H15, N15 and S15, you should be able to modify it without much problem, bit of filing and maybe a bit of filler (or build up with lo melt solder).

The 3 cylinders are vacuum reservoirs, any suitable diameter rod (or tube with the ends filled) and a piece of fine wire over the top.

Re your surplus of Jubes, I've used the loco chassis under the BHE N15 kit with a UM drive, makes a far better King Arthur than the old Poole Black 5 chassis with incorrectly spaced small wheels did.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on March 29, 2016, 02:36:52 pm
Looking closer, the tender you have does look more like the Langley Drummong pattern "watercart" one that has had bogie side frames added. The BHE one has the flared top of the earlier Urie version, BHE do the tender body as a kit labelled as being for the N15, the same tender was used by the Urie H15, N15 and S15, you should be able to modify it without much problem, bit of filing and maybe a bit of filler (or build up with lo melt solder).


The complexity of parts that are needed to put together an accurate S15 is bewildering! I'm trying to make sense of it all in my usual way, but how accurate is the table that I've put together?
http://www.ngauge.historyfiles.co.uk/FeaturesNGauge/howto_LocoKits.htm (http://www.ngauge.historyfiles.co.uk/FeaturesNGauge/howto_LocoKits.htm)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 01, 2016, 09:44:33 am
Another happy transformation...

From this:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/17/thumb_29590.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=29590)



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Still a little fettling to do to get the contacts to sit right, but she runs really well! :) Thanks @paulprice (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4342) for the livery suggestion - it really looks nice!



Another 31 gets the "golden ochre" treatment. The electrics need a bit of a clean to get it running smoothly (for a Lima!), but again, happy with this one:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on April 01, 2016, 09:55:32 am
More brilliant locomotives, I bet their future owners will love them  :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 01, 2016, 10:02:22 am
More brilliant locomotives, I bet their future owners will love them  :)

One day I'll make some for me! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on April 01, 2016, 10:13:10 am
More brilliant locomotives, I bet their future owners will love them  :)

One day I'll make some for me! ;)

You don't need any locomotives, I hardly have any
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: ScottyStitch on April 01, 2016, 11:03:06 am
The 31 looks really good!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: daveg on April 01, 2016, 01:34:49 pm
Great work! That blue and red scheme looks very nice indeed.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: N-Gauge-US on April 07, 2016, 07:44:14 pm
Wow! I had not seen this thread until a very happy Zwilnik pointed me to it. Incredible work! :) I can hardly believe my eyes with some of these!  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: NeMo on April 07, 2016, 08:10:46 pm
Agreed! For a Lima, it's a lot better than I expected.

Cheers, NeMo

The 31 looks really good!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 11, 2016, 04:00:21 pm
Back from a works trip to the US of A and back to my locos... :)

A County class stripped, disassembled, put back together and primered in the background (needs more filler!) and the S15 from earlier has a similar stripdown, foreground:

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And as if I didn't have enough small things to paint... a friend has recently acquired a fussball table and has asked me to repaint one team in West Ham strip (crimson lake and provincial light blue!). The things I do for my friends...  :doh:  (should have been a nice red with white sleeves, mutter mutter....) ;)

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Rabs on April 11, 2016, 04:42:40 pm
He looks like he's stuffed a pillow under his top.  Is that to break his fall when he dives on the floor?  Wouldn't want a footballer getting a real injury!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 11, 2016, 04:55:54 pm
He looks like he's stuffed a pillow under his top.  Is that to break his fall when he dives on the floor?  Wouldn't want a footballer getting a real injury!


 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on April 11, 2016, 05:00:52 pm
Is that S15 going to remain a Urie version with watercart tender or might you go for a Maunsell version, new cab roof, no step up of footplate over cylinders and a Urie/Maunsell pattern tender or maybe even a 6 wheel Ashford patern tender as used on the Central section.

For Urie/Maunsell tender use a BHE N15 kit (they will supply tender only) use a UM tender drive with an extra pair of wheels

[Limit reached]Maunsell S15, number is incorrect, 833-837 had 6 wheel tenders so need to change the last digit!

[Limit reached]UM drive under BHE N15 tender, only awkward part is making and fitting bogie side frames, I used cast axle boxes and springs, BHE or Etched Pixels. Some had flush sided tenders others had flared top, check photos to find which.

PS you can use the watercart tender and Fleischmann tender drive to hack a UM T9 as per my sig below, the UM drive then becomes available for your Maunsell S15, with BHE tender; mix and match?

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 11, 2016, 05:41:33 pm
Thanks Mike!

I'm aiming for as close to the real 847 Bluebell loco as I can get - I've already sanded off the cab roof!

I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do about the tender, which is nothing like the kit one in real life - I might see if I can bash a Lima 4F one, which has flat sides and the right profile, albeit too short.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on April 11, 2016, 06:10:33 pm
847 has the Flush sided 8 wheel Maunsell tender, a bit of filing to remove the flared top on the BHE tender should work, if that makes it too thin add some thin brass sheet inside and fill the space with lo melt solder or filler. The cab roof curves into the cab side unlike the LSWR pattern which I think overlaps slightly. The LSWR one does not fit withing the SR composite loading gauge hence the change on the Maunsell ones

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=s15+class+847+images (https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=s15+class+847+images)

The Lima 4F had a 6 wheel tender, OK over scale but I don't think quite long enough for an 8 wheeler and probably a bit tall from what I recall.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 12, 2016, 10:21:10 am
You're absolutely spot on about the tender, Mike - the Lima one is too short and too tall. I'm thinking I might have to scratch-make the tender top. Plasticard and hope... ;)

The S15 is back together and looking much healthier - I still need to file down the cab roof sides so it curves into the cab sides (again, good spot Mike!)

Here she is with a couple of 47s I'm working on for a friend, a Trix 27 that's getting a green with yellow ends respray and a Lima bo-bo getting the same treatment:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on April 12, 2016, 10:56:28 am
If you're going for as close to 847 as possible you need to level the footplate over the cylinders, so the smoke deflectors are going to have to come off and will also need either replacing with brass or plasticard sheet  or a bit of sneaky work with lo melt solder to fill the gap where the footplate has been lowered, complete replacement will involve getting that lip round the top and front edge if you're that fussy :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 12, 2016, 11:07:13 am
If you're going for as close to 847 as possible you need to level the footplate over the cylinders, so the smoke deflectors are going to have to come off and will also need either replacing with brass or plasticard sheet  or a bit of sneaky work with lo melt solder to fill the gap where the footplate has been lowered, complete replacement will involve getting that lip round the top and front edge if you're that fussy :)

Having put them back on, suddenly I'm feeling less fussy... ;) I will do the cab roof and make the tender, though.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: N-Gauge-US on April 12, 2016, 03:33:14 pm
Thanks Mike!

I'm aiming for as close to the real 847 Bluebell loco as I can get - I've already sanded off the cab roof!

I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do about the tender, which is nothing like the kit one in real life - I might see if I can bash a Lima 4F one, which has flat sides and the right profile, albeit too short.

Somehow I had managed to miss that one of your long term goals is to model all of the locos on the Bluebell Railway. The Bluebell has been a favorite of mine since I discovered at about 7 or 8 that it was a real place and modeling it was what I initially wanted to do in N Gauge. The S15/847 project is looking really good!

I have an itch to try making a Wainright P Class at some point, so if you ever start down that route, make sure to let me know! Until then, I'll be following along here with great interest and taking notes on what you and Mike and the other pro builders are discussing :)

All the best and thanks for the updates!
Philip
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 12, 2016, 04:07:02 pm
Thanks Mike!

I'm aiming for as close to the real 847 Bluebell loco as I can get - I've already sanded off the cab roof!

I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do about the tender, which is nothing like the kit one in real life - I might see if I can bash a Lima 4F one, which has flat sides and the right profile, albeit too short.

Somehow I had managed to miss that one of your long term goals is to model all of the locos on the Bluebell Railway. The Bluebell has been a favorite of mine since I discovered at about 7 or 8 that it was a real place and modeling it was what I initially wanted to do in N Gauge. The S15/847 project is looking really good!

I have an itch to try making a Wainright P Class at some point, so if you ever start down that route, make sure to let me know! Until then, I'll be following along here with great interest and taking notes on what you and Mike and the other pro builders are discussing :)

All the best and thanks for the updates!
Philip

Thanks Philip - but me, a "pro builder"?! I'm blushing, you are too kind. I tend to think of myself more as a hopelessly ambitious amateur... ;)

I don't quite know how I'm going to do the P class (and there are two of them on the BBR from memory) - as far as I know there are no kits of them, so it might have to be a scratch build job. I wish I knew how to work in brass - some of the guys who scratch-build brass bodies on here are amazing skillful.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: N-Gauge-US on April 12, 2016, 07:08:15 pm
Thanks Mike!

I'm aiming for as close to the real 847 Bluebell loco as I can get - I've already sanded off the cab roof!

I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do about the tender, which is nothing like the kit one in real life - I might see if I can bash a Lima 4F one, which has flat sides and the right profile, albeit too short.

Somehow I had managed to miss that one of your long term goals is to model all of the locos on the Bluebell Railway. The Bluebell has been a favorite of mine since I discovered at about 7 or 8 that it was a real place and modeling it was what I initially wanted to do in N Gauge. The S15/847 project is looking really good!

I have an itch to try making a Wainright P Class at some point, so if you ever start down that route, make sure to let me know! Until then, I'll be following along here with great interest and taking notes on what you and Mike and the other pro builders are discussing :)

All the best and thanks for the updates!
Philip

Thanks Philip - but me, a "pro builder"?! I'm blushing, you are too kind. I tend to think of myself more as a hopelessly ambitious amateur... ;)

I don't quite know how I'm going to do the P class (and there are two of them on the BBR from memory) - as far as I know there are no kits of them, so it might have to be a scratch build job. I wish I knew how to work in brass - some of the guys who scratch-build brass bodies on here are amazing skillful.

The nearest thing I can think of is, appropriately, a Terrier (the P Class was a terrier rip off that was less successful). The wheels on the terrier were 48" whereas on the P Class they were 45 1/8" and the wheelbase is shorter at 11' instead of 12', but it is fairly close, all things considered, and might make a nice donor chassis for a P Class body, if one can be managed (that cab.... Grrrr....).

As for working in brass, I've recently bought Simon Bolton's book on scratch building and, despite its being geared towards OO, have found it very informative and am now clamoring to try the techniques demonstrated. His thread, which I think I saw a post by you on, has some great examples in n gauge and he is updating it regularly, so it is very much worth keeping an eye on.

Anyway, if I get brave and start work on a P Class, I'll let you know!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on April 12, 2016, 08:25:09 pm
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I wish I knew how to work in brass


Hardest part is probably rolling boilers, so I cheat and use brass tube; two ways to get the bands, mine is to use a lathe to turn some brass off between the smokebox and first band, leave the band proud, turn along to the next band and so on. The alternative is to stick very thin strips of paper, or sellotape round the tube for the bands and a wider bit for the smoke box.

If you are doing a round top firebox cut a "T" slot in the tube and open out the slotted bit, if it's to go over a Farish chassis with motor you may need to cut more ahead of the firebox slot, much easier to use a UM drive. for a Belpaire box use brass sheet and filler

For a cab I now use a similar method to that used by Etched Pixels for coaches, for those he makes floor, sides and ends as one piece, folding sides and ends up from the floor, for a cab the "base" is the backplate, sides and floor fold up from that roof has to be a separate item if it overlaps the side sheets or if curved from the side like the Maunsell S15 roof then the roof could be extended from one side.

Otherwise you'll have fun soldering sides, floor and roof to backplate unless you have a number of different melting point solders, start with the highest and work your way down, reducing iron temp accordingly. having it fold up all you need is a light fillet along each fold and a bit more for  joins such as sides to floor or roof

Any rivet detail try a pounce wheel

http://mfpilot.com/model-supplies/tools/hobby-rivet-line-maker-trumpeter-detailing-tool.html (http://mfpilot.com/model-supplies/tools/hobby-rivet-line-maker-trumpeter-detailing-tool.html)

There is a similar one on the UK market, if I can find mine I'll post details.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: N-Gauge-US on April 12, 2016, 09:39:16 pm
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I wish I knew how to work in brass


Hardest part is probably rolling boilers, so I cheat and use brass tube; two ways to get the bands, mine is to use a lathe to turn some brass off between the smokebox and first band, leave the band proud, turn along to the next band and so on. The alternative is to stick very thin strips of paper, or sellotape round the tube for the bands and a wider bit for the smoke box.

If you are doing a round top firebox cut a "T" slot in the tube and open out the slotted bit, if it's to go over a Farish chassis with motor you may need to cut more ahead of the firebox slot, much easier to use a UM drive. for a Belpaire box use brass sheet and filler

For a cab I now use a similar method to that used by Etched Pixels for coaches, for those he makes floor, sides and ends as one piece, folding sides and ends up from the floor, for a cab the "base" is the backplate, sides and floor fold up from that roof has to be a separate item if it overlaps the side sheets or if curved from the side like the Maunsell S15 roof then the roof could be extended from one side.

Otherwise you'll have fun soldering sides, floor and roof to backplate unless you have a number of different melting point solders, start with the highest and work your way down, reducing iron temp accordingly. having it fold up all you need is a light fillet along each fold and a bit more for  joins such as sides to floor or roof

Any rivet detail try a pounce wheel

[url]http://mfpilot.com/model-supplies/tools/hobby-rivet-line-maker-trumpeter-detailing-tool.html[/url] ([url]http://mfpilot.com/model-supplies/tools/hobby-rivet-line-maker-trumpeter-detailing-tool.html[/url])

There is a similar one on the UK market, if I can find mine I'll post details.


Yet again, Mike, you are a source of tremendous wisdom and a fount of useful knowledge! As a friend of mine used to say, 'You're a gentleman and a scholar.' I had not thought of folding up the cab body, but that is brilliant! I will also investigate the brass tube situation, as I admit I am now a little frightened about rolling my own boilers.

Many thanks for another extremely useful and informative post. I shall have to start printing these out and putting them in a folder labeled 'Useful tips from Dorsetmike' :) (Actually, I may start doing that with all useful forum posts and make a whole binder of them....)

(Sorry to hijack, Ozymandias, I just thought Mike's reply well worth a response).

-Philip
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 12, 2016, 11:04:05 pm
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I wish I knew how to work in brass


Hardest part is probably rolling boilers, so I cheat and use brass tube; two ways to get the bands, mine is to use a lathe to turn some brass off between the smokebox and first band, leave the band proud, turn along to the next band and so on. The alternative is to stick very thin strips of paper, or sellotape round the tube for the bands and a wider bit for the smoke box.

If you are doing a round top firebox cut a "T" slot in the tube and open out the slotted bit, if it's to go over a Farish chassis with motor you may need to cut more ahead of the firebox slot, much easier to use a UM drive. for a Belpaire box use brass sheet and filler

For a cab I now use a similar method to that used by Etched Pixels for coaches, for those he makes floor, sides and ends as one piece, folding sides and ends up from the floor, for a cab the "base" is the backplate, sides and floor fold up from that roof has to be a separate item if it overlaps the side sheets or if curved from the side like the Maunsell S15 roof then the roof could be extended from one side.

Otherwise you'll have fun soldering sides, floor and roof to backplate unless you have a number of different melting point solders, start with the highest and work your way down, reducing iron temp accordingly. having it fold up all you need is a light fillet along each fold and a bit more for  joins such as sides to floor or roof

Any rivet detail try a pounce wheel

[url]http://mfpilot.com/model-supplies/tools/hobby-rivet-line-maker-trumpeter-detailing-tool.html[/url] ([url]http://mfpilot.com/model-supplies/tools/hobby-rivet-line-maker-trumpeter-detailing-tool.html[/url])

There is a similar one on the UK market, if I can find mine I'll post details.


Yet again, Mike, you are a source of tremendous wisdom and a fount of useful knowledge! As a friend of mine used to say, 'You're a gentleman and a scholar.' I had not thought of folding up the cab body, but that is brilliant! I will also investigate the brass tube situation, as I admit I am now a little frightened about rolling my own boilers.

Many thanks for another extremely useful and informative post. I shall have to start printing these out and putting them in a folder labeled 'Useful tips from Dorsetmike' :) (Actually, I may start doing that with all useful forum posts and make a whole binder of them....)

(Sorry to hijack, Ozymandias, I just thought Mike's reply well worth a response).

-Philip


Hijack away, Philip - this is interesting stuff! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: MARK1985 on April 13, 2016, 01:59:10 pm
just spent about 3 hours looking through this whole thread  :D got to say some cracking work on all the projects Ozy , very much inspired me to start looking at the spare and repair items on ebay and start doing some work on couple items I received in a job lot that I wasn't sure how to go about restoring to their former glories , first up will be a j69 holden tank! first load of milliput on order  ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 13, 2016, 02:30:42 pm
A couple more on the go - a Minitrix Ivatt 2-6-2 and dock tank sporting new crimson liveries. The dock tank is going to look very cute when it's finished!:

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One of the 47s unmasked to reveal the yellow noses underneath. Needs a bit of tidying up...:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 25, 2016, 04:19:15 pm
Sigh. So many locos, so little time...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_38723.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38723)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: MrDobilina on April 25, 2016, 04:21:17 pm
Sigh. So many locos, so little time...

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_38723.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38723[/url])


Just out of curiosity, why do you have so many on the go?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Milton Rail on April 25, 2016, 04:40:10 pm
Good luck, I am sure you have a system, but I am impressed you keep track of what goes with what when you marry them all back together again :) 
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 25, 2016, 04:43:19 pm
Sigh. So many locos, so little time...

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_38723.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38723[/url])


Just out of curiosity, why do you have so many on the go?


Because I'm a twit!! ;)

I restore them as a hobby - I buy a lot spares/repairs, mend/respray them and sell them on (expect for the ones I completely fall in love with, which I keep).

Trouble is my capacity to amass them far outstrips my speed of fixing them. But you can never have too many locos/projects on the go, I think... :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 25, 2016, 04:44:55 pm
Good luck, I am sure you have a system, but I am impressed you keep track of what goes with what when you marry them all back together again :)

I'd be impressed too, if I actually did keep track of it all! ;) It's not much of a system, but it seems to work and it keeps me happy.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 26, 2016, 09:46:58 am
Just some of the lovelies on my workbench at the moment...



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I like the red livery on the Ivatt and the dock tank. The latter is going to be cuter than a basketful of fluffy kittens.

A Lima pretending to be a class 17 gets some lining while a preservation Jinty and another Silver Jube lurk in the background.



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A Minitrix 27 goes all green with full yellow ends and a Southern E2 gets some lining.

Lots more on the go..! (Friends that I'm doing stuff for, please be assured - it is being done, it just didn't make it to the photo-call!) ;)


Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: MrDobilina on April 26, 2016, 10:02:47 am
very nice as usual!

How do you get the smooth finish? I've seen a few start out rough and then by the end they are smooth like new! Is it just sanding after painting or is it a layer that fills in the bumps like a varnish?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on April 26, 2016, 10:06:58 am
very nice as usual!

How do you get the smooth finish? I've seen a few start out rough and then by the end they are smooth like new! Is it just sanding after painting or is it a layer that fills in the bumps like a varnish?

I always put a final top coat of satin varnish over the top to protect the decals - this probably helps! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 03, 2016, 10:56:40 am
The start of the "Bluebell Railway" collection - loco painted and awaiting lining, tender body to be scratch-built. This will be 847 - I know the footplates and smoke deflectors are all wrong, but I am ignoring my inner rivet-counter because I'm impatient to get this done!

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The "just about finished" department. These will be sold to fund the Bluebell project!:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_39047.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39047)



Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Milton Rail on May 03, 2016, 06:24:27 pm
Looking good Oz, how did you do the Golden Arrow?  Transfers?  I hope to start my GA project this month but can't lay my hands on the dark orange/Black lining yet
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 04, 2016, 09:43:13 am
Looking good Oz, how did you do the Golden Arrow?  Transfers?  I hope to start my GA project this month but can't lay my hands on the dark orange/Black lining yet

Ah... about the Golden Arrow... that's the original paintwork, I just fixed the innards on this one!  :-[ I've got another rather more battered BoB body that I would like to do in the same livery, and had wondered myself about how to do the arrow - I certainly can't find any transfers for it.

If you do, let me know! :)

Have you tried Fox Transfers for the orange/black lining?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Milton Rail on May 05, 2016, 08:04:51 pm
I had a scan of Fox transfers but nothing leapt out at me.... keep meaning to go back and look.

John at Precision Labels printed me a set of arrows (I have not seen them yet as I am away at work) for the streamlined ones, the Britannia ones are too small to print... says that even these one are very delicate and he is trying different things, but he has added them to the order pages of the site.

I am also trying to hunt down some Caledonian Railway freight transfers, but no joy yet either :(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 24, 2016, 10:39:13 am
I got a bit bored with nearly putting my back out every time I wanted to use my (very big, heavy, solid) door-mounted test track - so I asked its original creator if I could dismantle it and recycle the scenics on a lighter board.

He very graciously said that was fine, so here's "Test Track Lite" in its first incarnation...

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on May 24, 2016, 01:42:20 pm
Looking good
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 24, 2016, 04:06:47 pm
Looking good

Thanks Paul! There's a bit more to it now - update pics to follow!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: N-Gauge-US on May 24, 2016, 04:07:14 pm
Your 'test track' has a more exciting track plan than my 'layout' ;) Looks very nice :) What did you go with for the new baseboard?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 24, 2016, 04:12:16 pm
Your 'test track' has a more exciting track plan than my 'layout' ;) Looks very nice :) What did you go with for the new baseboard?

Thanks! I always think if a thing's worth doing, it's worth overdoing... ;)

The baseboard is 5mm ply, which now has 3mm cork tile on top to deaden the track noise - ultimately I'll add some battens underneath to frame the edges, conceal the wiring and stiffen it up a bit, but I was impatient to get going!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 25, 2016, 02:17:16 pm
A bit more progress - cork tiles on, gradient in place and track glued down:

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on May 25, 2016, 06:22:55 pm
Is that another layout lurking in the background?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: keerout on May 25, 2016, 06:39:31 pm
I think the one in the background is the layout Paul, the one up front is a test track..  ;)
Gerard  :wave:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 25, 2016, 08:52:53 pm
Is that another layout lurking in the background?

That's the old door-mounted layout I was using as a test track - once I've laid the track on the new one, the scenics will be transferred! :-)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on May 25, 2016, 09:43:59 pm
Is that another layout lurking in the background?

That's the old door-mounted layout I was using as a test track - once I've laid the track on the new one, the scenics will be transferred! :-)

Cool that's my daily blonde moment over
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 26, 2016, 10:31:11 am
Is that another layout lurking in the background?

That's the old door-mounted layout I was using as a test track - once I've laid the track on the new one, the scenics will be transferred! :-)

Cool that's my daily blonde moment over

You only have one per day?! I think I must be into the dozens... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on May 26, 2016, 10:56:48 am
Is that another layout lurking in the background?

That's the old door-mounted layout I was using as a test track - once I've laid the track on the new one, the scenics will be transferred! :-)

Cool that's my daily blonde moment over

You only have one per day?! I think I must be into the dozens... ;)

I have more senior moments now I suppose seeing as im 40
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 26, 2016, 11:08:48 am
Is that another layout lurking in the background?

That's the old door-mounted layout I was using as a test track - once I've laid the track on the new one, the scenics will be transferred! :-)

Cool that's my daily blonde moment over

You only have one per day?! I think I must be into the dozens... ;)

I have more senior moments now I suppose seeing as im 40

You're still a youngster! I was born in the sixties (just)... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on May 26, 2016, 12:15:30 pm
Is that another layout lurking in the background?

That's the old door-mounted layout I was using as a test track - once I've laid the track on the new one, the scenics will be transferred! :-)

Cool that's my daily blonde moment over

You only have one per day?! I think I must be into the dozens... ;)

I have more senior moments now I suppose seeing as im 40

You're still a youngster! I was born in the sixties (just)... ;)

My sister claims I have the mental age of a 7 year old in a Gorilla;s body, which I think is very  rude as I reckon I'm 13
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 26, 2016, 01:45:13 pm
Don't you youngsters rabbit on about age!  :whistle: Just wait 'til you get past the really big 80 then you can talk, - but by then you'll be past caring!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 31, 2016, 10:46:27 am
Fifty thousand views?! Wow, everyone, I am touched and humbled...  :NGaugersRule:


Most of my loco-fixing kit is in boxes pending a house move, but I've been keeping busy getting my new test track functional. The main track is all down, just a couple of sidings to put in - and then lots and lots of scenery and a tunnel or so to hide some of the Heath Robinson construction! ;)

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on May 31, 2016, 11:50:30 am
Its looking good, the gradients will certainly give your locomotives a work out.

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hunslet 707 on May 31, 2016, 02:25:56 pm
What size is the layout? I like the track plan, just what would keep my little lad happy...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on May 31, 2016, 02:44:30 pm
What size is the layout? I like the track plan, just what would keep my little lad happy...

It's roughly 2.5ft by 4. If you made it slightly bigger you could probably have 2 lines running with a DC set-up - I just needed something small and light with lots of corners to test locos with! Most of the track I've used is Peco set track with 1st or 2nd radius curves and very short points to save space.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 01, 2016, 10:09:46 am
Just checking the gradients for climb-ability. This isn't an excuse to have a quick play with my Britannia and teak coaches, honest.  :-[

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Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 01, 2016, 01:51:04 pm
I always ensure that I play, err sorry test my trains in detail on a regular basis, just in case  :angel:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 08, 2016, 03:44:18 pm
Sometimes I despair of my optimism. Just bought two spares and repair German locos to try and fix - the body of the streamlined one is melted in the middle and curved like a banana, and the valve gear of the other is mostly missing and/or in a million pieces. Why do I do it to myself? ;)





(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/3534-080616154122.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=40768)





(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/3534-080616154209.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=40769)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on June 08, 2016, 05:39:58 pm
Because like me you can't bare the thought of models being chucked?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on June 08, 2016, 05:48:14 pm
Can you make one out of the two, streamliner's chassis  into the other body? Alternatively will the chassis fit any kits?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on June 08, 2016, 06:44:12 pm
What about turning the streamliner into an armoured train? Various sheets of plasticard as armour plate etc. Bound to be at least one prototype that fits the bill ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on June 08, 2016, 06:46:34 pm
What about turning the streamliner into an armoured train? Various sheets of plasticard as armour plate etc. Bound to be at least one prototype that fits the bill ;)

Oh failing real life, James Bond (Goldeneye, 1995) could provide inspiration!

I know they used a class 20, but still....

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Railwaygun on June 09, 2016, 12:43:56 am
What about turning the streamliner into an armoured train? Various sheets of plasticard as armour plate etc. Bound to be at least one prototype that fits the bill ;)

A quick trip to / military could provide some ideas! PInterest is a good source of pictures , as well as the Railwaygun group

NIckR
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 09, 2016, 09:12:47 am
Great ideas, guys, thanks! :)

I've got my eye on a Del Prado model of the streamlined one - if I get it I'll see if I can make the DP body replace the bent one. Apart from the valve gear being full of fluff and the electrics needing a major clean, the rest of the workings seem to be OK.

Failing that, I like the idea of the armoured train!

As for the other one - less sure. I've got lots of sundry bits of valve gear lying about, I might see if I can recreate it - probably a thankless and likely pointless task, but it keeps me busy! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on June 09, 2016, 11:37:16 am
Great ideas, guys, thanks! :)

I've got my eye on a Del Prado model of the streamlined one - if I get it I'll see if I can make the DP body replace the bent one. Apart from the valve gear being full of fluff and the electrics needing a major clean, the rest of the workings seem to be OK.

Failing that, I like the idea of the armoured train!

As for the other one - less sure. I've got lots of sundry bits of valve gear lying about, I might see if I can recreate it - probably a thankless and likely pointless task, but it keeps me busy! ;)

I might have to send a van down to you, with a load of my trains for you to hide from the Domestic Overlord, its a good job I run a transport company LOL
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 09, 2016, 11:40:09 am
Great ideas, guys, thanks! :)

I've got my eye on a Del Prado model of the streamlined one - if I get it I'll see if I can make the DP body replace the bent one. Apart from the valve gear being full of fluff and the electrics needing a major clean, the rest of the workings seem to be OK.

Failing that, I like the idea of the armoured train!

As for the other one - less sure. I've got lots of sundry bits of valve gear lying about, I might see if I can recreate it - probably a thankless and likely pointless task, but it keeps me busy! ;)

I might have to send a van down to you, with a load of my trains for you to hide from the Domestic Overlord, its a good job I run a transport company LOL

You'd be very welcome to. I promise not to respray them in LNER livery. ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 09, 2016, 04:48:54 pm
Because like me you can't bare the thought of models being chucked?



Absolutely!! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 16, 2016, 10:43:15 am
You know that moment at the end of "Bridge Over The River Kwai" when Alec Guinness has his "Oh my God, what have I done?" moment?

Having razor-sawn out the glue-melted middle section of the boiler of this German loco, I know how he felt!:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/3534-160616103702.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=41029)

The plan is to use plasticard to replace the missing section, card strips for the boiler bands, thin acetate for the little doors and butchered bits of the original for other detailing. A few rivet decals and you'll never know the difference...  :worried:

On the plus side, the chassis (which was in a terribly grubby and be-fluffed state) now chugs along quite happily.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on June 16, 2016, 11:20:07 am
I would humbly suggest that is a very neat job.

The section was melted anyway, carefully cutting it out like this isn't going to ruin the model.

I am genuinely keen to see the progression on this now, a master restoration in progress  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 16, 2016, 11:29:46 am
I would humbly suggest that is a very neat job.


Thank you - bought myself a new razor saw! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 24, 2016, 10:08:46 am
So far, so looking-a-bit-ropey... but with a bit of filler and some boiler bands I think this should look OK...


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/3534-240616093555.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=41363)


While my paints and spraying kit are still in a removal box somewhere, I have been working on the test track (mission creep, me?!)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/3534-240616093931.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=41364)




(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/3534-240616094106.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=41365)


Should be back to painting/restoring mode very shortly! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on June 24, 2016, 11:29:10 am
That's looking well on the way to a really good restoration. I've got a non bent one if you need photos for reference?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 24, 2016, 11:37:56 am
That's looking well on the way to a really good restoration. I've got a non bent one if you need photos for reference?

Thanks! I've still got the original saggy bit from the middle, so I can use that as reference (and a source of bits for detailing!), but pics would be handy!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on June 24, 2016, 02:57:26 pm
Here you go. Not sure if it's exactly the same loco, but hopefully useful reference anyway. Done closeups of the damaged area.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/8-240616145433.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/8-240616145450.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/8-240616145513.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/8-240616145533.jpeg)

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on June 24, 2016, 02:58:31 pm
Looks like mine's got the extra valencing and the smoke deflectors but otherwise the same.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 24, 2016, 03:17:00 pm
Looks like mine's got the extra valencing and the smoke deflectors but otherwise the same.

You are a Gentleman, Sir! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 24, 2016, 03:18:19 pm
I've just remembered I've got to recreate one of the smoke deflectors out of plasticard, too - could be a challenge!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on June 24, 2016, 03:32:16 pm
I've just remembered I've got to recreate one of the smoke deflectors out of plasticard, too - could be a challenge!

Make a mold from the one you've got. If you do it mirrored you should get the other side :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: daveg on June 25, 2016, 03:29:36 pm
No idea if this is of any interest but would this be the same amazing looking loco you guys have been discussing?

https://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/Fleischmann-717403.html (https://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/Fleischmann-717403.html)

Dave G
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on June 27, 2016, 09:22:16 am
No idea if this is of any interest but would this be the same amazing looking loco you guys have been discussing?

https://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/Fleischmann-717403.html (https://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/Fleischmann-717403.html)

Dave G

Hi Dave,

Yes, that looks like the same loco - mine is a Roco rather than a Fleischmann, but I think it's the same model.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Railwaygun on June 29, 2016, 10:47:30 pm
You are trying to recreate one of these, a DRG 05

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRG_Class_05 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRG_Class_05)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/941-290616230006.png) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=41523)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/941-290616230659.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=41526)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Railwaygun on July 05, 2016, 11:56:35 pm
OOps - the loco you are repairing is a DRG 03!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRB_Class_03.10 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRB_Class_03.10)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/941-050716235033.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=41721)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/941-050716235216.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=41722)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 06, 2016, 12:29:21 am
Looks like a chameleon!! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: dannyboy on July 06, 2016, 12:40:06 am
Looks like a chameleon!! ;)


No, it's a cricket.  ;)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/4209-060716003945.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=41723)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 11, 2016, 12:58:41 pm
Normal service is starting to be resumed... got my spray booth and airbrush out of the box they've been languishing in and back on the desk!

I found the satin varnish first so I finished off this 27 respray I'd been working on:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/3534-110716125238.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=41914)



And while that was drying I started building a project the plans of which I printed ages ago - a little church (based on Winstone church in Gloucestershire, where I lived when I was little) which will go on the test track:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/3534-110716125526.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=41915)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: daveg on July 11, 2016, 03:53:58 pm
Tidy paint job.  :thumbsup:

What material have you attached your printed church to? I looks quite thick for mount board, or is it possibly foam board? Looks a neat bit of work.

Dave G
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 11, 2016, 03:58:17 pm
Tidy paint job.  :thumbsup:

What material have you attached your printed church to? I looks quite thick for mount board, or is it possibly foam board? Looks a neat bit of work.

Dave G

Thanks Dave!

I've just used 2mm card for the church, but the stone texture paper is already glued to (I think) 240gsm card before it goes on to this - so the effect is quite chunky and very sturdy!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 21, 2016, 10:08:37 am
FINALLY got time to spend on some locos...



A Warship gets some decals...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/3534-210716095218.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=42151)



As does a stripped, dismantled and re-assembled County class...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/3534-210716095343.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=42152)



I'm also working on a Jubilee to Patriot conversion and am modelling a slightly unusual livery (look away now, @paulprice (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4342), you won't like this...) - experimental BR apple green.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/3534-210716100415.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=42153)



Oooh my, that's bright. First "rough" coat of black should help. This is better - isn't it...?  :-\

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/3534-210716100604.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=42154)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on July 21, 2016, 01:58:27 pm
FINALLY got time to spend on some locos...



A Warship gets some decals...

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/3534-210716095218.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=42151[/url])



As does a stripped, dismantled and re-assembled County class...

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/3534-210716095343.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=42152[/url])



I'm also working on a Jubilee to Patriot conversion and am modelling a slightly unusual livery (look away now, @paulprice ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4342[/url]), you won't like this...) - experimental BR apple green.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/3534-210716100415.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=42153[/url])



Oooh my, that's bright. First "rough" coat of black should help. This is better - isn't it...?  :-\

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/3534-210716100604.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=42154[/url])


YOU EVIL EVIL BOY  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 21, 2016, 02:05:03 pm
Sorry, Paul... it'll look lovely when it's all lined, honest... :-[
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on July 21, 2016, 09:22:43 pm
Sorry, Paul... it'll look lovely when it's all lined, honest... :-[

I'm not talking to you, your nasty  >:D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on July 21, 2016, 10:15:40 pm
I find Jubilees or Scots hack into quite good Nelsons in lined Maunsell olive, have to ditch the 6 wheel tenders though and replace with a nice 8 wheeler either Minitrix or Union Mills drives, the latter with an extra pair of wheels.

(Visualises Paul with steam coming out of his ears)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on July 22, 2016, 07:09:03 am
I find Jubilees or Scots hack into quite good Nelsons in lined Maunsell olive, have to ditch the 6 wheel tenders though and replace with a nice 8 wheeler either Minitrix or Union Mills drives, the latter with an extra pair of wheels.

(Visualises Paul with steam coming out of his ears)

Nsty jusy nasty
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on July 22, 2016, 09:03:26 am
I find Jubilees or Scots hack into quite good Nelsons in lined Maunsell olive, have to ditch the 6 wheel tenders though and replace with a nice 8 wheeler either Minitrix or Union Mills drives, the latter with an extra pair of wheels.

(Visualises Paul with steam coming out of his ears)

Nsty jusy nasty

Sorry, Paul. I promise to do something nice in LMS black or crimson as recompense, I promise... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on July 22, 2016, 11:44:16 am
I find Jubilees or Scots hack into quite good Nelsons in lined Maunsell olive, have to ditch the 6 wheel tenders though and replace with a nice 8 wheeler either Minitrix or Union Mills drives, the latter with an extra pair of wheels.

(Visualises Paul with steam coming out of his ears)

Nsty jusy nasty

Sorry, Paul. I promise to do something nice in LMS black or crimson as recompense, I promise... ;)

You are just saying that, I DONT BELLIEVE YOU  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 16, 2016, 12:34:34 pm
Soooo, I had a couple of weeks' holiday and a week to myself during that time... so I treated myself to a little self-indulgent layout time (been doing lots of locos too but pics of them to come!)

The test track comes on apace...



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-160816123238.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43008)





(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-160816123341.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43009)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on August 18, 2016, 10:31:04 am
Soooo, I had a couple of weeks' holiday and a week to myself during that time... so I treated myself to a little self-indulgent layout time (been doing lots of locos too but pics of them to come!)

The test track comes on apace...



([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-160816123238.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43008[/url])





([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-160816123341.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43009[/url])


Its looking good, and it gives those poor LMS engines that should be in Crimson that you keep painting on other colours a break too :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 18, 2016, 11:04:12 am

Quote

Its looking good, and it gives those poor LMS engines that should be in Crimson that you keep painting on other colours a break too :)

 :laughabovepost:  Thanks Paul! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on August 19, 2016, 09:36:25 am

Quote

Its looking good, and it gives those poor LMS engines that should be in Crimson that you keep painting on other colours a break too :)

 :laughabovepost:  Thanks Paul! :)

Not a problem, keep the updates on the layout coming :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 19, 2016, 02:57:55 pm

Quote

Its looking good, and it gives those poor LMS engines that should be in Crimson that you keep painting on other colours a break too :)

 :laughabovepost:  Thanks Paul! :)

Not a problem, keep the updates on the layout coming :)

Will do! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 22, 2016, 11:52:07 am
Layout update...

Got some more wall-work, scenery and ballasting done, in between having to cut into sections of the cork tiling and re-glue them because the "super strength tile adhesive" has failed and they're lifting off the baseboard... :censored:



The hilltop in place - all looking a bit grey at the moment, but there will be a little leafy village here soon!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-220816113208.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43085)




Loco servicing siding

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-220816113304.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43086)







View across the station platform to the bridge and town - first shops and houses glued in place!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-220816113355.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43087)



The whole thing - lots to do yet!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-220816113810.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43089)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 22, 2016, 12:16:38 pm
It's ALLWAYS a bit worrying when you start to do the scenery ,At
first it ALLWAYS looks an absolute mess then it gradually takes shape and you start to see what you had in your mind when you first started .The great thing I've found with the scenery is it usually looks better IF you do make a mistake and it doesn't look right when it dries  but then you go over it again it turns out even better because you get a variation in the colouring so it looks more natural.
The trouble with my layout is I had an accident and knocked over a bottle of liquid flux and its spoilt the look of my yard and I just can't seem to get it back to what it was as the flux is reacting with the scatter and turning it a whitish colour I might end up doing the whole yard area again .
But  anyway yours is coming along nicely so don't spill liquid flux on it.
Bob
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Papyrus on August 22, 2016, 12:52:45 pm
I think this is a shoo-in for the title "Most Over-stretched Use of the Term 'Test Layout' in a Domestic Context, 2016'! It is becoming more detailed and elaborate than many an exhibition layout...

I look forward to your 'proper' layout with eager anticipation!

Good work. Keep it up!

Chris
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on August 22, 2016, 01:28:17 pm
Layout update...

Got some more wall-work, scenery and ballasting done, in between having to cut into sections of the cork tiling and re-glue them because the "super strength tile adhesive" has failed and they're lifting off the baseboard... :censored:



The hilltop in place - all looking a bit grey at the moment, but there will be a little leafy village here soon!

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-220816113208.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43085[/url])




Loco servicing siding

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-220816113304.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43086[/url])







View across the station platform to the bridge and town - first shops and houses glued in place!

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-220816113355.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43087[/url])



The whole thing - lots to do yet!

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-220816113810.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43089[/url])


Looking brilliant to me, next time your in Cheshire you can help with my next exhibition layout
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Milton Rail on August 23, 2016, 08:55:35 pm

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-160816123341.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43009[/url])


Looking great Oz - gotta ask, the carriages in this pic, are these ones you painted up or are they RTR?  Only ask as I am working on some cream & green ones too

Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 24, 2016, 10:33:19 am

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-160816123341.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43009[/url])


Looking great Oz - gotta ask, the carriages in this pic, are these ones you painted up or are they RTR?  Only ask as I am working on some cream & green ones too

Cheers,
Andrew


Thanks Andrew!

These are ones I painted (not very well, it was before I had my airbrush so I was using Humbrol acrylics and a brush, as you can tell by the (lack of) quality of the finish close up. They are better than they were, though - originally they were very badly and blobbily painted in cream and brown. They're very old Limas and not in terribly good nick, but good for scenic shots! ;)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-240816101931.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43121)




In close up:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-240816103227.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43122)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Milton Rail on August 24, 2016, 10:53:09 am
Good work with a brush though!  I did some old GF mk 1's that I acquired, was reasonably pleased with how they came out as it was my first proper go at anything with my airbrush, pics will be on my thread in the next few days... I think I might re-try it with some Mk 2's, I do like this livery, Harburn Hobbies do a 3 car west highland set, but only in OO and they advised me they have no plans to produce an N gauge set :(

I had another question on the orange/black lining you used on your county class, looks to be what I will need when I get around to the BoB I am re-doing as a Golden Arrow loco, can you remember what the Fox transfer reference is, I don't remember seeing Orange/Black/Orange lining.... 

Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 24, 2016, 11:00:33 am
Finally some more locos on the way to completion!

Re-sprayed Minitrix 2-10-0 German loco in wartime guise, which will have a camouflaged military coach to go with it, and a much smarter-looking 94XX.

Both need mechanical/electrical work to get them running smoothly, but getting there!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-240816105918.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43125)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 24, 2016, 11:07:19 am
Good work with a brush though!  I did some old GF mk 1's that I acquired, was reasonably pleased with how they came out as it was my first proper go at anything with my airbrush, pics will be on my thread in the next few days... I think I might re-try it with some Mk 2's, I do like this livery, Harburn Hobbies do a 3 car west highland set, but only in OO and they advised me they have no plans to produce an N gauge set :(

I had another question on the orange/black lining you used on your county class, looks to be what I will need when I get around to the BoB I am re-doing as a Golden Arrow loco, can you remember what the Fox transfer reference is, I don't remember seeing Orange/Black/Orange lining.... 

Cheers,
Andrew


Hi Andrew, the Fox transfer sheet I used for the County is this one: http://fox-transfers.co.uk/transfers/general-orange-black-orange-lining-58515 (http://fox-transfers.co.uk/transfers/general-orange-black-orange-lining-58515)

They also do general straight lines in the same pattern: http://fox-transfers.co.uk/transfers/general-orange-black-orange-lining-58516 (http://fox-transfers.co.uk/transfers/general-orange-black-orange-lining-58516)

Looking forward to seeing your pics! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: ODRAILS on August 24, 2016, 01:24:06 pm
My spares or repair discovery was a Farish (China version) rebuilt Merchant Navy pacific which was advertised as a “very poor runner”. I bought it for two reasons, one, to see if I could repair an N gauge loco and two, to see if the  model is a reasonably accurate model for me to include in my roster of more modern N gauge steam locos

So as not to inflate my prowess at N gauge loco repair, I'll confess that all that was needed to get the loco going sweetly was to loosen the rear driving wheel keeper plate screw.....

As I hadn't  been able to find a detailed  dimensioned review of the Farish China version of the Rebuilt Merchant Navy (or any N gauge loco for that matter)  I measured up the loco, comparing various dimensions with a drawing. I found that the loco  was far more accurate than I expected considering when this model was introduced.

Loco driving wheelbase   (7'6”x7'6”)   N equiv = 15.5mmx15.5mm)  model = 15.5 x 15.5
Bogie wheelbase (6'3”)  N equiv -= 13mm, model = 15
Maximum width (9')  is accurate at 18.5mm
Other measurements on the length of the loco boiler and position of fittings match the drawing using 2.0625mm/foot

The wheels are a bit small  (real loco 6'2”) – over the tread/tyre they represent  5'10” and over the flange 6'3”

So the loco is generally very good and as the China made Farish locos have much finer profile wheels this Merchant Navy is a keeper on my railway.

The downside is the tender. It's supposed to represent the large capacity tender fitted to the last 10 BR built locos 35020-29.  It looks OK at first glance but doesn't measure up too well agaist the drawing.

Tender wheel base is equivalent to 7'6”X 7'6” but should be unequal at  7'4” x 7'0” and the tender body is elongated to match. Just a couple of mm but once you compare with the drawing it's noticeable.   I may have to do a “cut and shut” job on this tender...

Ian
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 26, 2016, 10:06:52 am
More loco action!

The bright green Patriot, a Southern E2, the County and a little German tank progress a little. Getting the lining curves right on those tenders has been fiendish!:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-260816100013.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43150)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on August 31, 2016, 09:27:04 am
Very sad to receive this back in the post yesterday - the remnants of a rather nice little German tank that I had restored and sold, only for it to be crushed and destroyed during its trip through the post.

Something very heavy must have landed on it at some speed - despite the strong protective packaging, the shell is shattered and deformed, the valve gear broken, the engine casing bent:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-310816091604.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43234)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-310816091648.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43235)

:(

Hang on, did I say destroyed...?

I have a spare shell whose cab and bunker are missing. I have teeny tiny screws that might just be able to repair the valve gear. I have glue and paint and tools. I have an over-developed sense of optimistic possibility and a pathological inability to throw a loco away.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to fix this poor little tank....
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on August 31, 2016, 09:38:57 am

Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to fix this poor little tank....

Good for you, Gideon. It's shocking what has happened to that poor loco and I'm just glad nothing like that has ever occurred to my stock :o
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 01, 2016, 10:49:19 am
Test track town "Alexton" gets a much-needed pub - The Flying Swan, from Robert Rankin's immortal and brilliant Brentford Octology. Those who know, know...


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-010916104741.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43252)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 01, 2016, 10:57:26 am
We in my Industry call this sort of thing "Mission Creep", but this is by far the best example I have seen  ;)

A "Test Track" with a pub is no bad thing in my book, and it keeps those engine crews well lubricated!

Very sad to see the damage our wonderful ( :veryangry:) postal system inflicted on that poor tank. If it has any chance of saving, it's in the best place.

Skyline2uk 
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 01, 2016, 11:19:21 am
We in my Industry call this sort of thing "Mission Creep", but this is by far the best example I have seen  ;)

A "Test Track" with a pub is no bad thing in my book, and it keeps those engine crews well lubricated!

Very sad to see the damage our wonderful ( :veryangry:) postal system inflicted on that poor tank. If it has any chance of saving, it's in the best place.

Skyline2uk

Mission creep on a grand scale! :) It's all good practice for when I get my big GWR layout from my ex's garage, where it sits unhappily mouldering... hopefully I'll find some space for it soon.

There is hope for the tank - I'll set about it this weekend and post some pics of progress/failure! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Steve Brassett on September 01, 2016, 11:50:17 am
Test track town "Alexton" gets a much-needed pub - The Flying Swan, from Robert Rankin's immortal and brilliant Brentford Octology. Those who know, know...
Have you got an allotment growing sprouts?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 01, 2016, 11:54:17 am
Test track town "Alexton" gets a much-needed pub - The Flying Swan, from Robert Rankin's immortal and brilliant Brentford Octology. Those who know, know...
Have you got an allotment growing sprouts?

Ah, the wily sprout... Indeed - where I play golf after a couple of pints of Large... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: maridunian on September 01, 2016, 11:57:30 am
Something very heavy must have landed on it at some speed

Looks like Postman Pat reversed over it! Not sure many current models could be resurrected as you propose, but if anything could be, a ?1980s? German model would be a reasonable bet ...

Mike
 
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 03, 2016, 08:13:53 pm
I love SPROUTS, but they seem to effect my Clack valve  :-[
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on September 03, 2016, 08:19:24 pm
I love SPROUTS, but they seem to effect my Clack valve  :-[
I believe Milk of Magnesia (or was it IPA) is good for the old Clack valve.  :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 03, 2016, 08:26:05 pm
I love SPROUTS, but they seem to effect my Clack valve  :-[
I believe Milk of Magnesia (or was it IPA) is good for the old Clack valve.  :)

I love SPROUTS and GUINESS, the Domestic Overlord on the other hand is not impressed by their effects on me, certainly make my safety valves lift  :angel:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Nig H on September 04, 2016, 12:24:34 pm
Update on the 7F and a recently acquired Grafar pannier (WARNING: the following images show locomotives stripped of their paint and Fully Naked, and may be unsuitable for viewers of a nervous disposition).


I've made the cab for the 7F (plasticard and lots of swearing) - needs the rough edges sanding down, but it's getting there. That poor old Lima tender has had some vicious internal  Dremelling to get it to vaguely fit!

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/thumb_14497.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14497[/url])



([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/thumb_14498.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14498[/url])


And now the nudity... :-[  I bought a spares/repair Grafar Pannier whose paintwork was so chipped and battered I decided to strip it right back and repaint. Unfortunately the good people of Grafar obviously used arc-welding as their preferred method of paint application and it's taken me about six coats of stripper to get down to this:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/thumb_14496.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14496[/url])


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/thumb_14495.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14495[/url])

It was originally black, so I think I'm going to keep it that way - unless I come across any "interesting" pannier liveries on Google! :)


Hi,

I've just joined this forum and I'm still finding my way round the various topics, so apologies for replying to an old quote.

I couldn't help noticing that the 7F looked remarkably like a Lancashire and Yorkshire large-boilered 0-8-0. Coincidently I am making one of these in 2mm finescale at the moment and I've attached some pics of mine for comparison. The chimney and dome on your 7F look very much like those on the L & Y prototype too. Do you know much more about the origin of your 7F?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/4622-040916121848.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43314)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/4622-040916122114.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43315)


Regards,

Nig H
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 04, 2016, 08:44:07 pm
I could do with adding one of these to my fleet.......interesting
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 06, 2016, 10:16:49 am

Quote

Hi,

I've just joined this forum and I'm still finding my way round the various topics, so apologies for replying to an old quote.

I couldn't help noticing that the 7F looked remarkably like a Lancashire and Yorkshire large-boilered 0-8-0. Coincidently I am making one of these in 2mm finescale at the moment and I've attached some pics of mine for comparison. The chimney and dome on your 7F look very much like those on the L & Y prototype too. Do you know much more about the origin of your 7F?

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/4622-040916121848.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43314[/url])

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/4622-040916122114.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43315[/url])


Regards,

Nig H


Hi Nig, I'll admit I know very little about the 7F - it was one of the very first things I restored so repainted and numbered it without too much research or bothering to check how prototypical it was. I should research it and make sure it's correct, it probably isn't! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Nig H on September 06, 2016, 05:37:25 pm


[/quote]

Hi Nig, I'll admit I know very little about the 7F - it was one of the very first things I restored so repainted and numbered it without too much research or bothering to check how prototypical it was. I should research it and make sure it's correct, it probably isn't! ;)
[/quote]


Thanks for replying. I think it was a wise move going for the LMS 7F. Scratch-building an eight-wheel tender would have been quite a challenge. Maybe you should ask the person who did the loco body where the tender is.

Regards,

Nig H
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 07, 2016, 10:25:31 am
That tender doesn't look too different to an SR/ex LSWR tender used on the N15/King Arthur class 4-6-0 and others; BHE do a white metal kit for it.

I have used a number of them, it's not too difficult to fit a Union Mills tender drive and an extra pair of wheels.

The supplied bogies I found a bit crude, so I use some etched side frames and cast axleboxes & springs.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 13, 2016, 12:21:31 pm
I am just re-surfacing after a long and particularly horrible tummy bug... :( :sick2:  Loco time has been mostly replaced with lying in bed feeling horrible time, but I think I'm on the mend after a week.

I've been doing some bits from my sick bed though. I bought this Dapol Pannier a couple of years back and I thought I ought to finish it. The back of the cab had been hacked out to make way for a chip, I think:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/main_12909.JPG)



Finally got round to repairing, re-rivetting and respraying it - handrails are yet to go back on but you get the idea:



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-130916121329.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43594)




(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-130916121446.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43595)


I bought it for £30 - not bad for a Dapol, I thought! :)



I've also been restoring another German 2-6-0 tank (not the one that got squished in the post, that's a slightly longer-term project!)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-130916121654.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43596)


More on the go so more pics soon!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 13, 2016, 02:16:35 pm
I am just re-surfacing after a long and particularly horrible tummy bug... :( :sick2:  Loco time has been mostly replaced with lying in bed feeling horrible time, but I think I'm on the mend after a week.

I've been doing some bits from my sick bed though. I bought this Dapol Pannier a couple of years back and I thought I ought to finish it. The back of the cab had been hacked out to make way for a chip, I think:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/main_12909.JPG[/url])



Finally got round to repairing, re-rivetting and respraying it - handrails are yet to go back on but you get the idea:



([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-130916121329.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43594[/url])




([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-130916121446.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43595[/url])


I bought it for £30 - not bad for a Dapol, I thought! :)



I've also been restoring another German 2-6-0 tank (not the one that got squished in the post, that's a slightly longer-term project!)



([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-130916121654.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43596[/url])


More on the go so more pics soon!


Welcome back, its good to hear you are on the mend.

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 19, 2016, 09:33:50 am
8 hours of free time on Sunday without kids to do nothing but locos. Sheer, absolute bliss.

Lots done (photos to follow) and this rather lovely little combo finally completed:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-190916093218.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43694)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-190916093300.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43695)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 20, 2016, 10:46:39 am
More things finished, nearly finished and just starting...

Finished: Peco Jube - Patriot conversion in BR apple green. I actually quite like this now, despite the colour.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916103429.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43722)



Finished: Jinty in preservation livery. Proud of the lining on this one.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916103544.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43723)



Nearly finished:

County class kit. I'm not sure if I've got it on the right chassis/wheels - it's all a bit wobbly. But it looks nice and once it's got cabside and name plates on should look lovely.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916103831.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43724)


Nearly finished:

A Minitrix Warship newly decalled - just needs varnishing, name plates and re-assembly - plus the start of another Dutch 27.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916104032.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43725)



Just starting:

I bought this thinking it was an E5. But is it an E3/E4? I'm hoping one of you knowledgeable lot knows! :) Either way it needs a lot of love - what livery it gets depends on what it is!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916104335.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43726)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 20, 2016, 12:06:13 pm

Finished: Jinty in preservation livery. Proud of the lining on this one.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916103544.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43723[/url])



Agh - did you get the number wrong on this - the Jinties were in the 47xxx series.... 47357 would be ok....

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 20, 2016, 12:12:46 pm

Finished: Jinty in preservation livery. Proud of the lining on this one.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916103544.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43723[/url])



Agh - did you get the number wrong on this - the Jinties were in the 47xxx series.... 47357 would be ok....

Cheers,
Alan


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :doh:

Nil desperandum - I can scrape back the offending 5, replace it with a 4, re-varnish and you'll never know...

Thanks for picking this up before it went on sale! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on September 20, 2016, 12:49:04 pm
I bought this thinking it was an E5. But is it an E3/E4? I'm hoping one of you knowledgeable lot knows! :) Either way it needs a lot of love - what livery it gets depends on what it is!

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916104335.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43726[/url])


Hi O

My guess is a Langley E5 that's been sort-of converted to an E4. The E4 seems to have the right detailing for this (look at the lower coal rail, for instance, or a slightly flatter roof?):

An E4:
(https://locoyard.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/094-2015-bluebell-railway-sheffield-park-london-brighton-south-coast-railway-class-e4-0-6-2t-b473-birch-grove.jpg)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 20, 2016, 01:03:58 pm
I bought this thinking it was an E5. But is it an E3/E4? I'm hoping one of you knowledgeable lot knows! :) Either way it needs a lot of love - what livery it gets depends on what it is!

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916104335.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43726[/url])


Hi O

My guess is a Langley E5 that's been sort-of converted to an E4. The E4 seems to have the right detailing for this (look at the lower coal rail, for instance, or a slightly flatter roof?):

An E4:
([url]https://locoyard.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/094-2015-bluebell-railway-sheffield-park-london-brighton-south-coast-railway-class-e4-0-6-2t-b473-birch-grove.jpg[/url])


That's rather what I thought, although the dome on mine is all wrong (and the whistle missing).  :hmmm:

I think I'll go with that, as the loco you posted a pic of is exactly the one I want to model! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 20, 2016, 02:39:25 pm
Langley did do an E4 some years ago, then discontinued it and produced the E5. I might still have mine, need to do some searching among the boxes.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: MARK1985 on September 20, 2016, 04:59:49 pm
where did you find the E5 if you don't mind me asking ????
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 20, 2016, 05:10:17 pm
where did you find the E5 if you don't mind me asking ????

Hi Mark, not at all! :) It was (another) eBay purchase. It's currently chassis-less and sitting in a bath of brake fluid to get the paint off, in readiness for a stripdown and rebuild.

I think the funnel and dome might have to go - NBrass have some nice ones that I think would look more prototypical for the model I'm aiming for.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on September 20, 2016, 06:44:10 pm
is it viable to upsize the wheels to ones that are a bit more suitable maybe?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on September 20, 2016, 06:46:40 pm
More things finished, nearly finished and just starting...

Finished: Peco Jube - Patriot conversion in BR apple green. I actually quite like this now, despite the colour.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916103429.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43722[/url])



Finished: Jinty in preservation livery. Proud of the lining on this one.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916103544.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43723[/url])



Nearly finished:

County class kit. I'm not sure if I've got it on the right chassis/wheels - it's all a bit wobbly. But it looks nice and once it's got cabside and name plates on should look lovely.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916103831.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43724[/url])


Nearly finished:

A Minitrix Warship newly decalled - just needs varnishing, name plates and re-assembly - plus the start of another Dutch 27.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916104032.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43725[/url])



Just starting:

I bought this thinking it was an E5. But is it an E3/E4? I'm hoping one of you knowledgeable lot knows! :) Either way it needs a lot of love - what livery it gets depends on what it is!

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-200916104335.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43726[/url])


What have you done to the poor LMS loco;s  Actually the Jinty looks brilliant, I think I'm in love  :heart2: :heart2:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 20, 2016, 10:55:58 pm
is it viable to upsize the wheels to ones that are a bit more suitable maybe?

Biggest problem with that is that it would raise the buffer beam/coupling unless you either figure out how to mount the body lower on the chassis or shave some off the bottom of the chassis and that will mean recutting the axle slots.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on September 20, 2016, 10:58:48 pm
is it viable to upsize the wheels to ones that are a bit more suitable maybe?

Biggest problem with that is that it would raise the buffer beam/coupling unless you either figure out how to mount the body lower on the chassis or shave some off the bottom of the chassis and that will mean recutting the axle slots.

Ah yes, would almost be easier to find an alternate donor chassis for it in that case.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 21, 2016, 09:47:41 am
It's a good job I've got the expert folk of the Forum to keep me on the numerical straight and narrow... here's that Jinty in the midst of being re-numbered, along with a very nearly finished B1:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-210916094444.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43740)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 21, 2016, 10:00:46 am
Out of interest, did you have no option but to use a Fowler (LMS) tender for the B1?

Cheers,
Alan (yep, being awkward again...  ;) )
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 21, 2016, 10:17:06 am
Out of interest, did you have no option but to use a Fowler (LMS) tender for the B1?

Cheers,
Alan (yep, being awkward again...  ;) )

Picky, picky, picky... ;)

I used the one that it came with, because it looked most like my reference pic, but I can see I definitely have the wrong tender base - that's an easy swap!

Feel free to be awkward - I'd much rather be corrected and get it right! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on September 21, 2016, 10:47:26 am
Picky, picky, picky... ;)

I used the one that it came with, because it looked most like my reference pic, but I can see I definitely have the wrong tender base - that's an easy swap!

Feel free to be awkward - I'd much rather be corrected and get it right! :)

The Fowler top isn't really right either - filler vents and the differing shape in general.

Let me have a look later on - I might have the right LNER group standard tender top for the B1 somewhere - if of use.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 22, 2016, 12:07:23 am
Picky, picky, picky... ;)

I used the one that it came with, because it looked most like my reference pic, but I can see I definitely have the wrong tender base - that's an easy swap!

Feel free to be awkward - I'd much rather be corrected and get it right! :)

The Fowler top isn't really right either - filler vents and the differing shape in general.

Let me have a look later on - I might have the right LNER group standard tender top for the B1 somewhere - if of use.

Cheers,
Alan

Yes please! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 27, 2016, 10:11:43 am
More from the workbench...

A T9 gets some lining - getting the curves right is a fiddle, but rewarding when it goes right!


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-270916095756.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43882)





I've made a replacement smoke deflector for the streamlined German loco I bought with the glue-melted middle section. So far, so scruffy - but not bad for a couple of bits of plasticard and some D-profile cab beading!

Some filler, gloss varnish, rivet decals and a coat of primer will work wonders:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-270916100118.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43883)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/3534-270916100330.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43884)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on September 27, 2016, 10:23:45 am
That T9 looks nice. Is it going up for sale like the Patriot?
ebay bidders hat ready dusted off!!!

PS . Hope you've put the Patriot in the post? Can't wait to receive that one.
 :D  :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 27, 2016, 10:30:37 am
That T9 looks nice. Is it going up for sale like the Patriot?
ebay bidders hat ready dusted off!!!

PS . Hope you've put the Patriot in the post? Can't wait to receive that one.
 :D  :beers:

Thanks! The T9 isn't mine, I'm doing it for a friend - but the E2 is and will be for sale once it's done.

The Patriot has been lovingly encased in tissue and bubble wrap, placed inside a poster tube, wrapped in more bubble wrap, put in a sturdy box with tons more bubble wrap and will be on her way to you at lunchtime. :)

It would break my heart of anything untoward happened to this loco, so I have gone a but crazy on the protective wrapping! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 27, 2016, 11:29:27 am
T9 nitpick, Maunsell lining should be black outside a thin white, best way I've found of doing it is to use a Rotring or other very fine point black to go over the outer white. Exception is the boiler bands, they are correct white/black/white.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on September 27, 2016, 11:44:58 am
T9 nitpick, Maunsell lining should be black outside a thin white, best way I've found of doing it is to use a Rotring or other very fine point black to go over the outer white. Exception is the boiler bands, they are correct white/black/white.

You're absolutely right, Mike - and that's exactly what I'm going to do! Sorry should have said it was only half way through the process! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 11, 2016, 01:48:56 pm
Returned from a week away with work and happily back to my loco projects! :)


The E4 is coming along, with the help of some bits from the ever-brilliant Nick at NBrass:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-111016134031.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44389)



Another Jube -> Patriot conversion takes shape:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-111016134200.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44390)




The dining table workbench...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-111016134440.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44391)



The kitchen work surface loco storage facility:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-111016134622.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44392)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on October 11, 2016, 02:30:16 pm
I do like the look of that E4. What livery are going to finish it in?
 :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 11, 2016, 03:29:18 pm
I do like the look of that E4. What livery are going to finish it in?
 :beers:

Thanks! It's going to be lined Maunsell green - a fiddly livery to do, but it does look great. I'm modelling the E4 that runs on the Bluebell Railway.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on October 11, 2016, 04:23:54 pm
Very nice Oz. Keep posting the piccies please as you progress.
 :thankyousign: :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 11, 2016, 04:31:56 pm
Very nice Oz. Keep posting the piccies please as you progress.
 :thankyousign: :beers:

Will do! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Milton Rail on October 12, 2016, 03:09:22 pm
Great work Oz, some lovely projects in the pipeline as well as some fab finished pieces
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 13, 2016, 10:52:43 am
A pleasing evening's work...


White metal kit of a County class - looking good, but in need of some internal work to stop the wheels fouling on the shell:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-131016103856.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44458)




The E4 with first coat of primer and a bit of extra filling, alongside a saddletank and a Jinty. I bought the latter two as cosmetically good but total non-runners - I stripped them down, de-gunked and de-fluffed them (there was a lot of hair wrapped round both armatures!), gave them a good clean and bingo! They run very well! :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-131016104246.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44459)



A Grafar Pannier gets a lick of paint - this is going to be London Transport livery. Behind it the B1 has its new and correct tender top, courtesy of a forum friend - the chassis will need a little modification to get it to fit, but it's good to have the right shape:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-131016104725.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44460)



Finally, two finished ones - Warship D803 "Albion" and the now correctly-numbered preservation Jinty:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-131016104953.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44461)




(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-131016105046.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44462)


Plenty more on the workbench, so more soon! :)

Oz
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: leachsprite4 on October 13, 2016, 10:16:44 pm
Great work love the Maroon Jinty very smart.
Graham
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 14, 2016, 09:46:41 am
Double Dutch... a 27 and a 50 get the stripy treatment!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-141016094240.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44492)


I didn't get any pics of this one, but I managed to re-rivet the broken valve gear of a Minitrix Britannia last night too, using a Markit tubular rivet, a pin punch and a toffee hammer. :)

More of the Britannia soon - I'm going to do it in the original, early crest, all black livery, which I think will look gorgeous!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on October 15, 2016, 06:00:36 pm
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-131016105046.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44462[/url])


I love this loco but in your piccie that red looks too bright. Mind you several people said that about your Patriot in apple green but in real life it wasn't nearly as bright.

Here's a photo of 47357 I took at Butterly in 1990 - paint probably faded but definitely not as bright. Wadda ya think Oz


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/2403-151016175927.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44544)

 :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on October 15, 2016, 06:11:53 pm
Just found this photo in its pre BR livery - the red looks much closer to your model here.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyfletcher/2834326512/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyfletcher/2834326512/)

 :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on October 15, 2016, 08:50:02 pm
looks good to me I want a crimson Jinty
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on October 15, 2016, 08:56:13 pm
looks good to me I want a crimson Jinty
Get orf - its mine!!!
 :) :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 17, 2016, 09:56:34 am
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-131016105046.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44462[/url])


I love this loco but in your piccie that red looks too bright. Mind you several people said that about your Patriot in apple green but in real life it wasn't nearly as bright.

Here's a photo of 47357 I took at Butterly in 1990 - paint probably faded but definitely not as bright. Wadda ya think Oz


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/2403-151016175927.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44544[/url])

 :beers:


I think you are right, Bob - my camera does tend to make colours look a little bright, but the original in your pic has a much browner/rustier red. Hopefully someone will still want it...! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on October 17, 2016, 10:01:35 am
I'm sure there will be a queue on ebay for this loco Oz
 :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 17, 2016, 10:01:58 am
looks good to me I want a crimson Jinty
Get orf - its mine!!!
 :) :beers:

Boys, boys... no fighting! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on October 17, 2016, 10:35:32 am
looks good to me I want a crimson Jinty
Get orf - its mine!!!
 :) :beers:

Boys, boys... no fighting! ;)

Im not fighting it him, I just said I wanted one :(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 17, 2016, 12:05:38 pm
looks good to me I want a crimson Jinty
Get orf - its mine!!!
 :) :beers:

Boys, boys... no fighting! ;)

Im not fighting it him, I just said I wanted one :(

I can see I'm going to have to make some more of these... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 17, 2016, 01:01:20 pm
More on the workbench. A German diesel which was looking like this:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-171016125511.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44646)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-171016125605.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44647)




Is now looking like this:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-171016125715.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44648)

The amount of fluff and crud I removed from the motor/wheels/drive gear was incredible. No wonder the poor thing didn't run.



Another Patriot conversion takes shape:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-171016125814.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44649)



I'm hoping to get more pics of other projects tonight...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: NeMo on October 17, 2016, 01:08:20 pm
Another Patriot conversion takes shape:
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-171016125814.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44649[/url])


Ooh... tempting... now that I've got one of these Peco 'Jubilees'...

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on October 17, 2016, 01:24:10 pm
More on the workbench. A German diesel which was looking like this:


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-171016125511.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44646[/url])


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-171016125605.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44647[/url])




Is now looking like this:


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-171016125715.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44648[/url])

The amount of fluff and crud I removed from the motor/wheels/drive gear was incredible. No wonder the poor thing didn't run.



Another Patriot conversion takes shape:


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-171016125814.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44649[/url])



I'm hoping to get more pics of other projects tonight...


Please do the Pat in a decent livery like Post War Black, not a terrible BR one, give her a little dignity :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 17, 2016, 01:42:26 pm

Quote

Please do the Pat in a decent livery like Post War Black, not a terrible BR one, give her a little dignity :)

Ah, um, about that... this is one I've been commissioned to do in COUGHBR apple greenCOUGH, but it will look glorious. :D
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on October 17, 2016, 09:07:46 pm

Quote

Please do the Pat in a decent livery like Post War Black, not a terrible BR one, give her a little dignity :)

Ah, um, about that... this is one I've been commissioned to do in COUGHBR apple greenCOUGH, but it will look glorious. :D

You are a nasty nasty man  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 18, 2016, 09:48:46 am

Quote

Please do the Pat in a decent livery like Post War Black, not a terrible BR one, give her a little dignity :)


Ah, um, about that... this is one I've been commissioned to do in COUGHBR apple greenCOUGH, but it will look glorious. :D


You are a nasty nasty man  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:



My apologies, Paul...  :sorrysign:  :(

To make up for it, here are some nice black locos for you...



A jinty and a Britannia get the sober early BR treatment:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-181016093846.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44671)





Two Holden tanks, serviced, stripped and restored for a forum friend:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-181016094026.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44672)





An eBay purchase, advertised as a Lima (?!) non-runner. Tender wheels were very grubby and the valve gear had seized, but after a little work it seems to be running OK. Think I might re-do those cabside numbers, though...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-181016094402.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44673)




Finally a B12 kit in its early stages - what do people think, nice LNER lined green or BR black for this one (she'll be for sale, so consider this market research!!)? Or is there a rarer livery I could try?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-181016094717.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44674)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on October 23, 2016, 08:37:37 pm
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-131016105046.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44462[/url])


I love this loco but in your piccie that red looks too bright. Mind you several people said that about your Patriot in apple green but in real life it wasn't nearly as bright.

Here's a photo of 47357 I took at Butterly in 1990 - paint probably faded but definitely not as bright. Wadda ya think Oz


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/2403-151016175927.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44544[/url])

 :beers:


I think you are right, Bob - my camera does tend to make colours look a little bright, but the original in your pic has a much browner/rustier red. Hopefully someone will still want it...! :)

You're absolutely right Oz I WANT IT.. I'm happy to say I just acquired it on the ebay auction together with that nice looking Minitrix class 42. Both a very reasonable price - but I can't imagine that what I pay makes up for all the loving hours you put into these projects. Thanks Oz.
Pack em up and ship em out Oz.
I am so pleased with this purchase - I'lll post piccies on receipt.
 :) :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 24, 2016, 10:49:27 am
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-131016105046.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44462[/url])


I love this loco but in your piccie that red looks too bright. Mind you several people said that about your Patriot in apple green but in real life it wasn't nearly as bright.

Here's a photo of 47357 I took at Butterly in 1990 - paint probably faded but definitely not as bright. Wadda ya think Oz


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/2403-151016175927.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44544[/url])

 :beers:


I think you are right, Bob - my camera does tend to make colours look a little bright, but the original in your pic has a much browner/rustier red. Hopefully someone will still want it...! :)

You're absolutely right Oz I WANT IT.. I'm happy to say I just acquired it on the ebay auction together with that nice looking Minitrix class 42. Both a very reasonable price - but I can't imagine that what I pay makes up for all the loving hours you put into these projects. Thanks Oz.
Pack em up and ship em out Oz.
I am so pleased with this purchase - I'lll post piccies on receipt.
 :) :beers:


Delighted they're going to a good home, Bob! :) They will be packaged up snug and safe tonight and off to you tomorrow. Pics of them on your layout would be lovely!

 :beers:

Oz
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 24, 2016, 12:12:56 pm
I had my kids for the whole two days this weekend, so N Gauge restoration time was limited - but we did find something I need to model at Sheffield Park station... :)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-241016121127.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44835)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on October 24, 2016, 01:47:12 pm
White metal kits of the Q class occasionally appear on Ebay (I have one under construction) otherwise it's hack a 4F time.

Most awkward bit is tapering in the bottom of the firebox, things like chimney and dome should be no problem to a man of your calibre.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on October 24, 2016, 02:09:48 pm
I had my kids for the whole two days this weekend, so N Gauge restoration time was limited - but we did find something I need to model at Sheffield Park station... :)


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-241016121127.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44835[/url])


Is it a poor railways attempt at replicating a GLORIOUS LMS 4F
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 24, 2016, 02:19:42 pm
White metal kits of the Q class occasionally appear on Ebay (I have one under construction) otherwise it's hack a 4F time.

Most awkward bit is tapering in the bottom of the firebox, things like chimney and dome should be no problem to a man of your calibre.


Thanks Mike! Do you know who makes the white metal kits? I had a look on Langley and they don't have one... Otherwise it's under the scalpel for one of my old Lima 4Fs (sorry @paulprice (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4342)) ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 24, 2016, 02:20:54 pm
 


Is it a poor railways attempt at replicating a GLORIOUS LMS 4F

 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: CarriageShed on October 24, 2016, 02:57:27 pm
Thanks Mike! Do you know who makes the white metal kits? I had a look on Langley and they don't have one... Otherwise it's under the scalpel for one of my old Lima 4Fs (sorry @paulprice ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4342[/url])) ;)


I don't think the Q Class kit is available any more. Second hand is all there is. I'd love a Q myself, so I may have to go down the conversion route. I'd also love one of those white metal LMS 0-4-4s for a spare M7 chassis but they're rarer than hen's teeth...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on October 24, 2016, 06:41:16 pm
The Q was a Hughes kit, long discontinued.

May try and drop a hint to Lytchett Manor models who have the Gem range now see if they might be interested in doing it.

Otherwise as I suggested earlier hack one of those grotty LMS 4Fs.

Before the M7  came from Dapol I cut down an ABS/Beaver Highland 0-6-4T into an M7  on a 14xx chassis with a bogie replacing the trailing axle. Might be a suitable candidate for that LMS 0-4-4T. Again though, hens teeth time, keep an eye on Ebay.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on October 28, 2016, 12:22:01 pm
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/3534-131016105046.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44462[/url])


I love this loco but in your piccie that red looks too bright. Mind you several people said that about your Patriot in apple green but in real life it wasn't nearly as bright.

Here's a photo of 47357 I took at Butterly in 1990 - paint probably faded but definitely not as bright. Wadda ya think Oz


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/2403-151016175927.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44544[/url])

 :beers:


I think you are right, Bob - my camera does tend to make colours look a little bright, but the original in your pic has a much browner/rustier red. Hopefully someone will still want it...! :)

You're absolutely right Oz I WANT IT.. I'm happy to say I just acquired it on the ebay auction together with that nice looking Minitrix class 42. Both a very reasonable price - but I can't imagine that what I pay makes up for all the loving hours you put into these projects. Thanks Oz.
Pack em up and ship em out Oz.
I am so pleased with this purchase - I'lll post piccies on receipt.
 :) :beers:


Delighted they're going to a good home, Bob! :) They will be packaged up snug and safe tonight and off to you tomorrow. Pics of them on your layout would be lovely!

 :beers:

Oz

Arrived today - Red Jinty looks great, not as bright as in your picture. Runs well with slight wobble but not a problem.
Minitrix class 42 is nice also.
Will post pictures over the weekend.

 :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on October 30, 2016, 11:29:28 am
Arrived today - Red Jinty looks great, not as bright as in your picture. Runs well with slight wobble but not a problem.
Minitrix class 42 is nice also.
Will post pictures over the weekend.

 :beers:


A few piccies on my test layout

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/2403-301016112600.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45019)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/2403-301016112712.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45020)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/2403-301016112754.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45021)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/2403-301016112839.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45022)

 :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 31, 2016, 09:57:29 am
Arrived today - Red Jinty looks great, not as bright as in your picture. Runs well with slight wobble but not a problem.
Minitrix class 42 is nice also.
Will post pictures over the weekend.

 :beers:


A few piccies on my test layout

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/2403-301016112600.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45019[/url])


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/2403-301016112712.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45020[/url])


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/2403-301016112754.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45021[/url])


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/2403-301016112839.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45022[/url])

 :beers:


Thanks for posting these, Bob! Your layout looks lovely. :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on October 31, 2016, 01:21:34 pm
I had a Sunday to myself so I broke out the spray booth...

The Patriot conversion gets its colour. My camera makes this green look horribly bright - it's not like that in real life, it's a much better apple green!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-311016130326.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45038)



The B12 primered and sprayed. Again, the blue is much deeper in real life:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-311016130614.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45039)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-311016130748.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45040)



Having a play with the real thing - I took my boys on the Bluebell on Saturday and we got to go in the cab of 847 - a real treat!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-311016130931.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45041)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-311016132105.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45043)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on October 31, 2016, 02:26:50 pm
That poor Patriot  :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 02, 2016, 10:40:07 am
More on the Patriot - first coat of black:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-021116103651.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45090)



A Britannia body and tender shell in original black livery - spartan but rather beautiful!:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-021116103836.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45091)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Newportnobby on November 02, 2016, 11:50:00 am

A Britannia body and tender shell in original black livery - spartan but rather beautiful!:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-021116103836.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45091[/url])


Change the crest to a late one, weather the heck out of the poor thing and it'll be grand for someone modelling late steam. ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 06, 2016, 10:20:32 pm
Change the crest to a late one, weather the heck out of the poor thing and it'll be grand for someone modelling late steam. ;)

Were Britannias ever black in BR days? I not sure they ever were......this is Ozy doing a preserved livery - 70000 has been seen in black in preservation.

And very nicely executed too.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: NeMo on November 07, 2016, 06:20:42 am
Were Britannias ever black in BR days? I not sure they ever were......this is Ozy doing a preserved livery - 70000 has been seen in black in preservation.

Apparently the first one was delivered in unlined black; all the ones thereafter in green.

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 07, 2016, 09:15:53 am
Apparently the first one was delivered in unlined black; all the ones thereafter in green.

Cheers, NeMo

Interesting - wonder if there are any photos out there of that.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 07, 2016, 09:24:32 am
Change the crest to a late one, weather the heck out of the poor thing and it'll be grand for someone modelling late steam. ;)

Were Britannias ever black in BR days? I not sure they ever were......this is Ozy doing a preserved livery - 70000 has been seen in black in preservation.

And very nicely executed too.

Cheers,
Alan

Thanks! :) I think - and I may well be wrong - that Britannia's very first livery was this all black one. But she's appeared in it at some point, even if just in preservation livery! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 07, 2016, 09:55:47 am
Here's the finished Britannia:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-071116095456.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45244)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on November 07, 2016, 10:19:29 am
Definitely looks the part. Very nice.
 :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: dannyboy on November 07, 2016, 10:28:48 am
A very nice looking engine.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on November 07, 2016, 10:35:20 am
Here's the finished Britannia:


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-071116095456.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45244[/url])

There are a number of piccies on the webbynet showing 70000 in black livery. Can't post any right now cos It's difficult to do on my phone. Do a search for Britannia locomotive in black'.
 :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Snowwolflair on November 07, 2016, 11:35:18 am
Yes they were in black when they carried the lion and wheel.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3761-071116113412.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45245)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3761-071116113432.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45246)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on November 07, 2016, 10:56:14 pm
Here's the finished Britannia:


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-071116095456.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45244[/url])


Brilliant work as ever I might have to send you one of my poorly Minitrix Ivatt 2-6-0 to work your magic on :(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 08, 2016, 09:41:26 am
These are interesting, but the top photo is definitely misleading. It is almost certainly lined and a later picture - the loco is dirty (streaks on boiler and general thick film of grime, which commonly covered lining), and more key, it's fitted with (faded) electrification warning flash panels on the deflector bases, and the firebox. These weren't fitted until many years after building, when all locos were green. Looking at the tender there could be evidence of lining too.

The bottom photo is more interesting - looks more conclusive, but I guess there are no details of where and when this was taken?

Cheers,
Alan


Yes they were in black when they carried the lion and wheel.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3761-071116113412.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45245[/url])


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3761-071116113432.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45246[/url])
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on November 08, 2016, 10:39:48 am
Here is an extract from Wikipedia (OK so not all Wikipedia is accurate...) Indicating the first of the class was in unlined black.

"Livery and numbering
The first member of the class was given a livery of plain black without lining; this was changed to the new standard British Railways Brunswick green that was applied to express passenger locomotives after nationalisation, despite the locomotive being classed as mixed traffic. This was lined in orange and black, and the class was given the power classification 7MT.[34] The "Britannias" were numbered under the new British Railways standard numbering system in the 70xxx series.[35] The locomotives were numbered between 70000 and 70054, and featured brass nameplates with an initial black background, followed by red, located on the smoke deflectors.[36] Towards the end of steam plain green livery was substituted, with the touching-up of existing paintwork being preferred to full aesthetic overhaul."


Also a link to preserved 70000 in black ..http://www.urban75.org/blog/br-70000-britannia-loco-thunders-through-brixton/ (http://www.urban75.org/blog/br-70000-britannia-loco-thunders-through-brixton/)

 :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Snowwolflair on November 08, 2016, 10:49:43 am
Its definitely a Lion on a Unicycle so 1948 to 56, however it comes from an I-spy or similar publication and I think things like electrification flashes etc have been added at publishers licence. So if there is any lining it will be white and on the tender and cab sides and probably not on the boiler (but could be red bands) but  an enlarged copy is throwing up line aberrations as I think the photo is a scan of a printers grided photo and shows nothing definitive.


But I see a reference has just been posted as I type.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 08, 2016, 11:05:38 am
Its definitely a Lion on a Unicycle so 1948 to 56, however it comes from an I-spy or similar publication and I think things like electrification flashes etc have been added

They look fairly genuine, and the original picture is here - 1961, with warning flashes:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/2356966733/in/album-72157622560703286/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/2356966733/in/album-72157622560703286/)

Also, the crest may have been generally 1948 - 1956, but in reality plenty of locos had the early crest long after this - there's plenty of photos of that. (in fact, some lowly locos, had LMS on them for years after nationalisation!).

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Snowwolflair on November 08, 2016, 11:10:45 am
That's helpful

Blow up does not show any lining.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3761-081116110928.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45289)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 08, 2016, 11:25:18 am
That's helpful

Blow up does not show any lining.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3761-081116110928.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45289[/url])


On the contrary - it clearly shows the horizontal lining around the cabside number.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 08, 2016, 11:27:32 am
Also, same loco, same year, clearly lined, still early crest, but also the lining was clearly mucky and faded by that point.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/spallumcheen/8274322385 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/spallumcheen/8274322385)

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Snowwolflair on November 08, 2016, 11:31:05 am
That's helpful

Blow up does not show any lining.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3761-081116110928.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45289[/url])


On the contrary - it clearly shows the horizontal lining around the cabside number.

Cheers,
Alan


In both photos its a shadow of a painted over line but no wear or weathering is that consistent to remove all signs of a white line, especially as the number is so clean.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 08, 2016, 11:38:01 am
Sorry, but I disagree - if you look at pictures of the steam age the numbers stand out, even on filthy locos (e.g. this absolutely filthy B1 https://www.flickr.com/photos/tibshelf/15720454664/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tibshelf/15720454664/) ), and looking above and below clearly shows lining.

The second picture I posted is definitive - taken just before the first (summer 1961, the inconclusive one being Sept 1961). It even shows the faded electrification warning flashes on the tender, still with early crest.

I suspect the reason this loco remained in early crest so long is that the paintwork was very well maintained in  the early/mid 1950s as this loco was a normal star performer on the southern's "Golden Arrow" and was reputedly always turned out immaculately for this. In lined green, with golden arrow arrows and headboard.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Snowwolflair on November 08, 2016, 11:44:42 am
Lined... Green...  with an out of date logo...   could be in which case it is irrelevant to this conversation, which is about unlined black. 
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 08, 2016, 12:04:58 pm
Lined... Green...  with an out of date logo...   could be in which case it is irrelevant to this conversation, which is about unlined black.


Well not really - the photo was posted as evidence of black livery on this loco, and I don't believe this was the case.

Even the official BR publicity photo when it was shiny and sparkling and new, in lined green  ;) , shows that the red and black express passenger lining does not jump out as all that clear. No wonder the photos then become misleading and interpretable in other ways when it's filthy.

http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00-0-a-n-johnson-BR-70004.jpg (http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00-0-a-n-johnson-BR-70004.jpg)

There's simply no evidence this loco was ever black thereafter (other than from dirt staining toward the end). It's a useful exercise in showing the minefield of even using photos to guide modelling (I've been caught before when using indistinct pics!). Multiple photos are needed, 70004 again being a useful exercise as there are loads of definitive photos all through its life, both in southern days, Golden arrow and immaculate, right through to filthy LM days, close to her demise:
http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00-0-a-70004-L-Hanson-1769.jpg (http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00-0-a-70004-L-Hanson-1769.jpg)
http://www.colour-rail-prints.com/p/409/no-70004-iron-duke-chelsfield-great-britain-5089747.jpg (http://www.colour-rail-prints.com/p/409/no-70004-iron-duke-chelsfield-great-britain-5089747.jpg)
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7a/b6/58/7ab658613c95c7e136ad1d6b7e161e87.jpg (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7a/b6/58/7ab658613c95c7e136ad1d6b7e161e87.jpg)
http://www.time-capsules.co.uk/images/pf-time-capsules/2520.jpg (http://www.time-capsules.co.uk/images/pf-time-capsules/2520.jpg)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7181463872/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7181463872/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7281235282/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7281235282/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tcs-pics/7189972314/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tcs-pics/7189972314/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alastairwood/5346454788/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/alastairwood/5346454788/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7281234288/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7281234288/)

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Papyrus on November 08, 2016, 12:08:37 pm
I've dug out a 1975 book 'BR Standard Britannia Pacifics', edited by G Weekes. All the photos are monochrome with the exception of the front cover which shows 70014, looking black but probably just dirty. However, the first photo shows 70000 with the caption: "Completed early in January 1951, No. 70000 ran trials between Crewe and Carlisle, after a period of running-in, and then emerged from the paintshop in standard BR green livery..." which implies it was only black for a very short time.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Snowwolflair on November 08, 2016, 12:19:50 pm
Lined... Green...  with an out of date logo...   could be in which case it is irrelevant to this conversation, which is about unlined black.


Well not really - the photo was posted as evidence of black livery on this loco, and I don't believe this was the case.

Even the official BR publicity photo when it was shiny and sparkling and new, in lined green  ;) , shows that the red and black express passenger lining does not jump out as all that clear. No wonder the photos then become misleading and interpretable in other ways when it's filthy.

[url]http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00-0-a-n-johnson-BR-70004.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00-0-a-n-johnson-BR-70004.jpg[/url])

There's simply no evidence this loco was ever black thereafter (other than from dirt staining toward the end). It's a useful exercise in showing the minefield of even using photos to guide modelling (I've been caught before when using indistinct pics!). Multiple photos are needed, 70004 again being a useful exercise as there are loads of definitive photos all through its life, both in southern days, Golden arrow and immaculate, right through to filthy LM days, close to her demise:
[url]http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00-0-a-70004-L-Hanson-1769.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00-0-a-70004-L-Hanson-1769.jpg[/url])
[url]http://www.colour-rail-prints.com/p/409/no-70004-iron-duke-chelsfield-great-britain-5089747.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.colour-rail-prints.com/p/409/no-70004-iron-duke-chelsfield-great-britain-5089747.jpg[/url])
[url]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7a/b6/58/7ab658613c95c7e136ad1d6b7e161e87.jpg[/url] ([url]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7a/b6/58/7ab658613c95c7e136ad1d6b7e161e87.jpg[/url])
[url]http://www.time-capsules.co.uk/images/pf-time-capsules/2520.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.time-capsules.co.uk/images/pf-time-capsules/2520.jpg[/url])
[url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7181463872/[/url] ([url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7181463872/[/url])
[url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7281235282/[/url] ([url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7281235282/[/url])
[url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/tcs-pics/7189972314/[/url] ([url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/tcs-pics/7189972314/[/url])
[url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/alastairwood/5346454788/[/url] ([url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/alastairwood/5346454788/[/url])
[url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7281234288/[/url] ([url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7281234288/[/url])

Cheers,
Alan


Bit of an OTT response.

The photo was judged and aged by the logo.  If you are stating that this logo was used out of the normally accepted dates on Green livery locos I'm happy to go with that, which invalidates the photo for the purpose of this thread which was to identify Britannia locos in unlined black.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dr Al on November 08, 2016, 12:59:45 pm
The photo was judged and aged by the logo.  If you are stating that this logo was used out of the normally accepted dates on Green livery locos I'm happy to go with that, which invalidates the photo for the purpose of this thread which was to identify Britannia locos in unlined black.

Indeed - it's quite clear this loco survived with early crest well into 1961 from the multiple photos showing that. But 1963 it had late crest, so one can infer it gained this (or a tender swap) between Sept 1961 and 1963. Not OTT, but a useful exercise in the pitfalls of modelling from photos.

You're right to accept that the early crest therefore was not tightly bounded to the dates 1948-1956. There's loads of photo evidence showing other locos in the 1960s still with it - a five minute flickr pulls quite a few examples, and therefore I'm sure there are countless more:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/7038197375/in/album-72157622423979643/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/7038197375/in/album-72157622423979643/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/6061874800/in/album-72157622424314345/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/6061874800/in/album-72157622424314345/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/6735915675/in/album-72157629366621902/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/6735915675/in/album-72157629366621902/)

Ofter lesser types, but no surprise as it's reasonable to assume they would only be changed at major overhaul/repaint, so presumably locos that were 'shopped' just prior to 1956 change were likely to retain the early crest for longer.

There are a few even more obscure examples of non-standard things in BR days, e.g. the Aspinall 0-6-0 saddle tank that got its BR number but retained LMS on its tanks, another that never got its BR number, but did get the LMS number changed to BR Gill Sans, keeping its LMS number right through 1960, as well as photos of at least 1 GWR pannier retaining 'GW' lettering well into BR days.

All fun ones for Ozy to do  ;)

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 09, 2016, 06:39:26 am
Here's the finished Britannia:


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-071116095456.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45244[/url])


Brilliant work as ever I might have to send you one of my poorly Minitrix Ivatt 2-6-0 to work your magic on :(


Always open to commissions, Paul - and I promise I wouldn't paint it apple green! ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on November 09, 2016, 10:40:12 am
Here's the finished Britannia:


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-071116095456.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45244[/url])


Brilliant work as ever I might have to send you one of my poorly Minitrix Ivatt 2-6-0 to work your magic on :(


Always open to commissions, Paul - and I promise I wouldn't paint it apple green! ;)


Only if you really  promise not to paint her GREEN?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Hailstone on November 09, 2016, 12:38:04 pm
Only Britannia itself was painted plain black, and this was only for a short period whilst it was under initial testing. it was repainted into lined green before it's naming ceremony at Marylebone on 30th January 1951

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 09, 2016, 01:33:42 pm
Here's the finished Britannia:


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-071116095456.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45244[/url])


Brilliant work as ever I might have to send you one of my poorly Minitrix Ivatt 2-6-0 to work your magic on :(


Always open to commissions, Paul - and I promise I wouldn't paint it apple green! ;)


Only if you really  promise not to paint her GREEN?


I absolutely promise! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Dorsetmike on November 09, 2016, 01:48:51 pm
Here's the finished Britannia:


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-071116095456.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45244[/url])


Brilliant work as ever I might have to send you one of my poorly Minitrix Ivatt 2-6-0 to work your magic on :(


Always open to commissions, Paul - and I promise I wouldn't paint it apple green! ;)


Only if you really  promise not to paint her GREEN?


I absolutely promise! :)


Yep, not green, he'll do it brilliant yellow with orange lining.

Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Snowwolflair on November 09, 2016, 01:51:16 pm
Here's the finished Britannia:


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-071116095456.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45244[/url])


Brilliant work as ever I might have to send you one of my poorly Minitrix Ivatt 2-6-0 to work your magic on :(


Always open to commissions, Paul - and I promise I wouldn't paint it apple green! ;)


Only if you really  promise not to paint her GREEN?


I absolutely promise! :)


Yep, not green, he'll do it brilliant yellow with orange lining.


Colas Rail, and a little model of a driver with sunglasses. 8)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 11, 2016, 10:57:32 am
Some updates from the workbench...

A pannier goes LT, the Patriot conversion, a B1, the E2 and E5, a Jube and the German bo-bo in varying states of restoration:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-111116104540.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45360)





The former "Sir Nigel of the Broken Nose", now Mallard - quite proud of this one, one of the very few I'm going to keep for myself!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-111116104717.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45361)




I bought these A4s and a Flying Scotsman off eBay - they're all in a very sorry state, but I think I can make at least three good. The silver A4's axles had been glued into position and were locked solid - it's going to take me a lot of patient chipping to get it all out!

I bought some replacement cranks for the Scotsman from Shapeways - they seem to work nicely, and Shapeways' customer service was excellent.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-111116105209.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45362)





(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-111116105311.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45363)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on November 11, 2016, 11:50:38 am
You have far too many loco's, Im jealous

You need to have a look at my poorly Minitrix Ivatt
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 11, 2016, 11:56:31 am


You need to have a look at my poorly Minitrix Ivatt

Very happy to, Paul - what's up with it?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on November 11, 2016, 01:35:41 pm


You need to have a look at my poorly Minitrix Ivatt

Very happy to, Paul - what's up with it?
I threw a traction tyre at an exhibition, which meant all the valve gear of one side got damaged, I think the little grey plastic piece on the slide bar is damaged. I could just remove the damaged gear and still use it at exhibitions but with the damaged side towards the operators...... I think I may take a look at it tonight when I finally get home :(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Bealman on November 11, 2016, 08:14:51 pm
You're a busy man, G!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 11, 2016, 10:44:02 pm
You're a busy man, G!!  :thumbsup:

You can never have too many locos to fix. Or power tools. Or t shirts. ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Timbo 57 on November 12, 2016, 08:20:59 am
Thanks for the restoration work on the J69's. Look and run like new loco's.

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g128/achilles1_2006/14947431_10154215515046859_6324972218565308290_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 12, 2016, 03:06:57 pm
Thanks for the restoration work on the J69's. Look and run like new loco's.

([url]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g128/achilles1_2006/14947431_10154215515046859_6324972218565308290_n.jpg[/url])


Delighted you're pleased with them, Tim! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 29, 2016, 10:23:43 am
I have been laid a bit low with various bugs, snuffles and shivers over the last couple of weeks, but I have now crawled out from under the duvet and back to the work bench...



Lots on the go, but first under the camera was one of the streamlined A4s I bought recently - stripped, nose glued back together and new skirts made. Looks a bit of a mess at the moment, but a bit of filler and some primer and she'll look lovely:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-291116101818.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45848)


One of the A4s had a Union Mills tender drive cobbled into the Minitrix tender chassis - I found a spare UM tender top, which I stripped, see pic below. Question - what sort(s) of loco could this type of tender power? J39 maybe? Which of the Big Four/BR tender styles is it? I've got lots of chassis and loco bodies, but I want to couple the right sort to this tender!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/3534-291116102213.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45849)

More soon!

Oz
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Atso on November 29, 2016, 10:52:55 am
Hey Oz,

I was wondering who bought those A4s! I'm sure that they will look exceptional once you've finished with them!

With regard to the Union Mills early LNER tender; off the top of my head this could be used for the following locomotives:

- D49
- J39 (very few actually used the full length LNER tender)
- K3
- O2
- V2

If you've got a spare flat sided LNER tender, this would open up the options to include the B17 as well as all the locomotives above.


Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on November 29, 2016, 01:02:08 pm


I was wondering who bought those A4s! I'm sure that they will look exceptional once you've finished with them!

A fool and his money, as they say... ;) They're going to take some work, but I think I can get them looking respectable and running again. One of the shells is properly jiggered, as is one of the tenders, but "two out of three ain't bad" and all that...

Thanks for the loco suggestions - I think I'll go the J39 route, I'm pretty positive I have a spare shell somewhere.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 05, 2016, 12:29:51 pm
A couple of finished ones emerge from the mountain of work in progress...!


B1 in BR green:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/3534-051216122549.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46076)


White metal kit of County class "County of Gloucester":

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/3534-051216122745.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46077)



I'm hoping to get a load of lining and decals done tonight, so expect more from the Despair Depot soon! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on December 05, 2016, 03:04:01 pm
A couple of finished ones emerge from the mountain of work in progress...!


B1 in BR green:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/3534-051216122549.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46076[/url])


White metal kit of County class "County of Gloucester":

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/3534-051216122745.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46077[/url])



I'm hoping to get a load of lining and decals done tonight, so expect more from the Despair Depot soon! :)


Looking great as ever, even if they are green
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 14, 2016, 10:30:03 am
Thank heavens for little trains... Despite a few days of unwelcome drama I've managed to get some loco time - sanity is restored. Just. ;)


The blue B12 is coming along nicely:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/3534-141216102129.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46329)



As is the Patriot conversion:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/3534-141216102234.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46330)



The Southern E2 is just about done - just need to fettle the chassis and motor and give her a coat of satin varnish:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/3534-141216102401.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46331)



The formerly rather scruffy German DB bo-bo is looking a bit resplendent thanks to a new paint-job and some incredibly detailed decals from a nice man in Germany (whose details I can provide to those interested but whose name I forget now!). Just some satin varnish to finish off:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/3534-141216102615.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46332)



Lastly (of the ones I managed to get a pic of yesterday evening!), the Dutch 27 is all but done, just needs last numbering and a varnish (and a chassis!):

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/3534-141216102831.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46333)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 22, 2016, 11:27:54 am
A couple more finished...

The German bo-bo with a coat of satin and re-assembled:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/3534-221216112040.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46543)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/3534-221216112639.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46546)



A re-sprayed Dapol Pannier, with a repaired rear end:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/3534-221216112212.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46544)




(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/3534-221216112311.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=46545)



Many, many, many more on the workbench - pics of these soon (including some *COUGH*OOGauge*COUGH* stuff I bought for my boys. Sorry, is that blasphemy...?) ;)


Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: daffy on December 22, 2016, 11:52:19 am
Nice work Oz. You seem to be busier than one of Santa's little helpers! :D

Quote
incredibly detailed decals from a nice man in Germany (whose details I can provide to those interested but whose name I forget now!)

If this guy does decals I can use on Swiss rolling stock (mainly German language stuff) I would be very interested in contact details.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on December 22, 2016, 12:10:28 pm
Nice work Oz. You seem to be busier than one of Santa's little helpers! :D

Quote
incredibly detailed decals from a nice man in Germany (whose details I can provide to those interested but whose name I forget now!)


If this guy does decals I can use on Swiss rolling stock (mainly German language stuff) I would be very interested in contact details.
Thanks.


Thanks Daffy! :)

His name is Andreas Nothaft, here's his website: http://www.modellbahndecals.de (http://www.modellbahndecals.de)

He does do Swiss stuff, I think (my German is non-existent, I've had to rely on GoogleTranslate!) - as well as a great range of German decals across all eras. The decals are high quality, good to use and the service I've had from him is excellent.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 09, 2017, 12:31:49 pm
Happy New Year to one and all...! :)

The Despair Depot workbench remains pretty full, but I've actually finished some projects...

The Patriot conversion is done and I'm really pleased with it - looks lovely and runs well:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-090117122426.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47130)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-090117122536.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47131)




Also done are the E2 Southern tank and the LT pannier. Very pleased with the E2, and it runs really sweetly. Both for sale...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-090117122744.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47132)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-090117122853.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47133)



Also complete is the Dutch class 27:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-090117123047.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47134)



Loads more on the go - pics soon! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 09, 2017, 12:35:19 pm
Some of your best work Oz!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: silly moo on January 09, 2017, 12:46:03 pm
You get better and better, it's always a pleasure to see your work.

 :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Paddy on January 09, 2017, 01:46:24 pm
That Jubilee looks amazing - what a fantastic model that loco was for its day.  Still stands up well now.

Great work.

Paddy
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 10, 2017, 10:21:35 am
More from the workbench...


A class 50, a J39, a class 47 and the B12 continue their makeovers. I'm super-detailing the B12 with coupling hooks, screwlink couplings, lamps and a bit of brasswork - it's going to look gorgeous when it's done!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-100117101707.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47157)



A closer view of the J39, which is going to be done in lined LNER livery. I like these double boiler bands I got from Fox Transfers. In the background is one of the skirted A4s I bought - just added some decal rivets to the skirts:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-100117102028.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47158)


More soon! :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on January 10, 2017, 04:38:23 pm
Ozzy

Your a Marvel, and I was going to send you my poorly Minitrix mogul, but your production line is worst than mine :(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 10, 2017, 04:43:00 pm
Ozzy

Your a Marvel, and I was going to send you my poorly Minitrix mogul, but your production line is worst than mine :(

Thanks Paul! :) Now I've finished a couple there's space on the workbench if you wanted me to take a look at the mogul - very happy to! Keeps me out of mischief... ;)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on January 10, 2017, 04:56:29 pm
Ozzy

Your a Marvel, and I was going to send you my poorly Minitrix mogul, but your production line is worst than mine :(

Thanks Paul! :) Now I've finished a couple there's space on the workbench if you wanted me to take a look at the mogul - very happy to! Keeps me out of mischief... ;)

Cool PM me the details an I will parcel the old girl up
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 12, 2017, 10:29:17 am
"Things I Wish I'd Thought About Before Actually Doing, No 135"....

I should know that if you spray cellulose primer on top of enamel varnish, this will happen:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-120117102618.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47212)


The cellulose also totally obliterates the plastic of the rivet decal, so back to the drawing board and back in the brake fluid with this A4. Sigh...  :doh:  :'(
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 12, 2017, 11:27:33 am
 :doh:

Oh dear, well it just goes to show you are human Oz.

Even the great masters make mistakes, and I increasingly believe there is no such thing as a mistake if you learn from it.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: dannyboy on January 12, 2017, 10:57:09 pm
:doh:

 there is no such thing as a mistake if you learn from it.

Skyline2uk

When I was training new recruits, I used to say to them "I don't care how many mistakes you make...........as long as you only make each one once".
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 13, 2017, 04:15:47 pm
Whilst I've not had the time to look at every page of this long thread the standard of work on your latest models, Gideon, is really superb.

With the old Graham Farish pannier tanks, have you ever thought about adding the handrail on the front? Prototype here:

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_03_2015/post-1-0-04290900-1425385975.jpg (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_03_2015/post-1-0-04290900-1425385975.jpg)

(At least one NGF member did and it makes a real difference, as does adding the missing smokebox numberplate for the BR livery ones.) GF only moulded them on the sides of the tanks.

I ask because I have a BR Black one (DCC-fitted by Douglas of Wickness) which is missing the rail and the numberplate. However, I need to find new cabside numberplates, too, for 9467 as it was allocated to Plymouth Laira from April 1952 to May 1962!

However, my original request was 34008 "Salisbury" bought, as my first Bulleid Light Pacific, years ago, on eBay, as a non-runner, that had been incompletely repainted, renumbered and renamed. I now realise the significance of the loco. as 34008 was the last BR steam loco. to run on the mainline in the far Southwest. (I didn't at the time but took pity on the loco. from the seller's description.) Bob at BRLines brought it back to full working order then Douglas will DCC-fit it, soonish, then it will, I intend, go to you for turning out in ex-works BR Lined Green livery with BR Late Crest livery, still as 34008 "Salisbury", of course. I'm sure you'll do a superb job. It really needs a new bogie, by N Brass, which I have and detailing (the parts for which I also have).
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 14, 2017, 11:00:15 am

However, my original request was 34008 "Salisbury" bought, as my first Bulleid Light Pacific, years ago, on eBay, as a non-runner, that had been incompletely repainted, renumbered and renamed. I now realise the significance of the loco. as 34008 was the last BR steam loco. to run on the mainline in the far Southwest. (I didn't at the time but took pity on the loco. from the seller's description.) Bob at BRLines brought it back to full working order then Douglas will DCC-fit it, soonish, then it will, I intend, go to you for turning out in ex-works BR Lined Green livery with BR Late Crest livery, still as 34008 "Salisbury", of course. I'm sure you'll do a superb job. It really needs a new bogie, by N Brass, which I have and detailing (the parts for which I also have).

So what are going to do after lunch...

Jerry
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Zwilnik on January 14, 2017, 11:12:32 am
"Things I Wish I'd Thought About Before Actually Doing, No 135"....

I should know that if you spray cellulose primer on top of enamel varnish, this will happen:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-120117102618.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47212[/url])


The cellulose also totally obliterates the plastic of the rivet decal, so back to the drawing board and back in the brake fluid with this A4. Sigh...  :doh:  :'(


That's an interesting effect. Could be very handy for stone/rendered wall effects on houses.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 14, 2017, 11:28:23 am
"Things I Wish I'd Thought About Before Actually Doing, No 135"....

I should know that if you spray cellulose primer on top of enamel varnish, this will happen:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-120117102618.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47212[/url])


The cellulose also totally obliterates the plastic of the rivet decal, so back to the drawing board and back in the brake fluid with this A4. Sigh...  :doh:  :'(


That's an interesting effect. Could be very handy for stone/rendered wall effects on houses.


Isn't there a "Mallard" made out of bricks somewhere ?  Paint it red and you're on to a winner!
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 14, 2017, 12:10:24 pm
Realistically, if 34008 is back, in Prague, by summer, I'll be very happy, Jerry. (From mid-February to mid-July I have next to no free time.) However, if it is back before May, I can celebrate the anniversary of 34008's hauling of the "Cornubian Railtour" of 3rd May 1964, marking the end of the steam era on the Cornish main line.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 16, 2017, 11:02:52 am
Whilst I've not had the time to look at every page of this long thread the standard of work on your latest models, Gideon, is really superb.

With the old Graham Farish pannier tanks, have you ever thought about adding the handrail on the front? Prototype here:

[url]http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_03_2015/post-1-0-04290900-1425385975.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_03_2015/post-1-0-04290900-1425385975.jpg[/url])

(At least one NGF member did and it makes a real difference, as does adding the missing smokebox numberplate for the BR livery ones.) GF only moulded them on the sides of the tanks.

I ask because I have a BR Black one (DCC-fitted by Douglas of Wickness) which is missing the rail and the numberplate. However, I need to find new cabside numberplates, too, for 9467 as it was allocated to Plymouth Laira from April 1952 to May 1962!

However, my original request was 34008 "Salisbury" bought, as my first Bulleid Light Pacific, years ago, on eBay, as a non-runner, that had been incompletely repainted, renumbered and renamed. I now realise the significance of the loco. as 34008 was the last BR steam loco. to run on the mainline in the far Southwest. (I didn't at the time but took pity on the loco. from the seller's description.) Bob at BRLines brought it back to full working order then Douglas will DCC-fit it, soonish, then it will, I intend, go to you for turning out in ex-works BR Lined Green livery with BR Late Crest livery, still as 34008 "Salisbury", of course. I'm sure you'll do a superb job. It really needs a new bogie, by N Brass, which I have and detailing (the parts for which I also have).


Thanks Chris! :)

I like the idea of adding the hand-railing to the front of the panniers - I'll give that a go!

Looking forward to getting "Salisbury" as and when you're ready.

Cheers,

Gideon
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 18, 2017, 11:29:53 am
And some more...

The B12 nears completion. I had to do some emergency fettling to get the chassis to fit, which means I've got to re-do some paintwork and re-varnish (and give her some front pony wheels!) but looking really nice:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-180117112029.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47502)



Class 50 "Valiant" - finally finished in Dutch livery:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-180117112150.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47503)



The streamlined German loco with the melted middle is coming along - holes drilled, bits added, boiler bands made, gaps filled. Looks a bit rough now but with primer and some rivet decals....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-180117112536.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47504)



The B12 next to some 47 shells I'm repainting. Ignore that big green thing in the background. It's a figment of you imagination. Oh, alright, it's a OO Gauge Scotsman I bought for my boys. Sorry...  :-[


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-180117112844.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47505)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 18, 2017, 11:39:35 am
Loving the work as usual Oz, especially impressed at the restoration work on the formerly melted German steam loco  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 23, 2017, 11:52:13 am
Nice quiet Sunday to myself = time to finish some locos and a bit more scenification to the test track...


The B12 is done - really pleased with this one, it's come out very nicely and the extra detailing really makes it:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-230117113401.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47772)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-230117113451.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47773)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-230117113603.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47774)




I also finished the J39...:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-230117113811.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47775)



...and completed the repair work on the German streamlined loco. What a difference a coat of primer makes! A coat of gloss varnish and some rivet decals next...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-230117114526.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47777)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-230117114705.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47778)




After all that I got my scenic head on and did some ballasting and ground-laying on the test track:


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-230117114038.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47776)







(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3534-230117115002.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47779)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: austinbob on January 23, 2017, 12:22:55 pm
Drooling over that B12!!!! Looks like that could be an expensive ebay purchase.
Oh well, its only money and I'm quite partial to a diet of bread and water for a few days. Nice one Gideon.
 :beers:
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on January 23, 2017, 12:56:20 pm
The test track is looking really good you will have to start posting more details about it :)
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 23, 2017, 01:32:24 pm
The test track is looking really good you will have to start posting more details about it :)

Thanks, Paul! :)

I'm want to get the test track fully finished (New Year's resolution!) so I'll be doing bits and pieces to it over the coming weeks - I'll post pics of progress! And when that's done I shall wheel in the BIG layout from the garage and start on that again...
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on January 23, 2017, 01:36:46 pm
The test track is looking really good you will have to start posting more details about it :)

Thanks, Paul! :)

I'm want to get the test track fully finished (New Year's resolution!) so I'll be doing bits and pieces to it over the coming weeks - I'll post pics of progress! And when that's done I shall wheel in the BIG layout from the garage and start on that again...

What big layout? Have you ben keeping secrets?
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: Ozymandias on January 23, 2017, 01:43:17 pm
The test track is looking really good you will have to start posting more details about it :)


Thanks, Paul! :)

I'm want to get the test track fully finished (New Year's resolution!) so I'll be doing bits and pieces to it over the coming weeks - I'll post pics of progress! And when that's done I shall wheel in the BIG layout from the garage and start on that again...


What big layout? Have you ben keeping secrets?


This one! :) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20484.60 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20484.60)

It needs a major re-design of the elevated section but it could be a cracker eventually.
Title: Re: Spares and repair discoveries
Post by: paulprice on January 23, 2017, 01:45:32 pm
The test track is looking really good you will have to start posting more details about it :)