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Title: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 17, 2014, 01:35:33 pm
At last I am getting closer to having a baseboard for Cant Cove. My (Czech) landlord came this morning and we had a detailed discussion about the construction of the board and he is then going to get me quotes from someone who will actually construct the board for me. The board is constrained by what will fit under one side of the double bed. Using a cardboard mock-up that means 1940mm (just over 6 feet) long by 740mm (slightly under 2 1/2 feet) wide and 200mm (slightly over 1/2 foot) high.

Based on what I have read on this forum, we will use a sandwich construction: wooden framework with crosspieces (positioned not to be under points) as low as possible whilst still leaving space for the castors on which the layout will roll out on using two handles fixed to the front, topped with hardboard (varnished both sides) and then a central oblong area for the track and scenery made up of 2 X 3 high polystyrene insulation sheets glued together (and glued to the hardboard underneath on top of the frame) into which a rivermouth can be cut and a cutting down to the fiddle yard with an additional 3 high insulation sheet(s), or pieces thereof, at the back right-hand side for a hilly meadow to be based on. The hillside will slope down diagonally from top right to top left and will be built onto the insulation sheets. At the back two-thirds of the board the hill will be hollow to allow two additional storage sidings under it, so I need to check the minimum height necessary.

In front will be the river side (below the edge of the two sandwiched insulation sheets and built onto the hardboard top) and at the back will be the fiddle / goods vehicle storage yard on corksheeting glued onto the hardboard. There will be a (very low) backscene with a small hole for the entrance to the fiddle yard, the entrance to be hidden by trees and the fact that the branchline will be descending in a curved cutting with trees along the sides through the layers of insulation boards. (I'm hoping a good sharp knife will be enough to cut through the insulation board. I'm also hoping to keep the incline downwards within the capability of an 0-6-0 hauling a short freight train of four-wheeled wagons. The outside crank Class 08 will be used for gauging trials!)

The whole layout will have a lift off protective top and sides of wood and hardboard to keep out the dust. The idea is that it will be light but strong enough. Using the cardboard mock up it should be just possible to carry the baseboard, diagonally, through the interior doors.

There will be two cable runs under the baseboard: one for DCC power to the tracks and a second for (future) point motors and lighting. Or should that be three cable runs? What technical specifications should the wire be? The position of the wires will be marked on the top of the board to prevent drilling through it when drilling the holes for connecting the power lines to the tracks (droppers) and for lighting (and later the point motors).

I will buy one point motor (no idea which, yet) as a pattern. The idea being to mount the point motors alongside the points in cutouts in the insulation material on top of which the track will be fixed. The cutouts to be covered (as others have described) with card which will be landscaped to match the surroundings. So the plan is to make all the point motor location cutouts and then cover them up and use the great hand in the sky for changing points, for now.

With the track being mounted directly on the insulation board I'm hoping that it will deaden the sound satisfactorily (as well as being easy to use trackpins) but I could also use cork underlay strips under the track (as I will have to in the fiddle yard).

The fiddleyard will be hand-operated (as will all points, initially). For simplicity I'm considering two-aspect BR colour light signals for entrance / exit from the station passing loop. (No working LSWR-pattern semaphores being available.) Maybe also a third two-aspect colour light signal to control exit from the goods yard / branch into the station loop? All other signals will be ground signals and, if modelled at all (the aim will be to build them later), certainly not working.

For fun, I'm toying with the idea of modelling the pair of GWR semaphore signals that were used at Worcester to control ROAD traffic when a train wanted to run along the 'Vinegar Works' branch for where the branchline crosses the road beyond the station yard as working GWR semaphore signals are available. Whether the branchline trains should be similarly controlled I have yet to decide! In any case, it would only be for my personal amusement. (Rule one.)

That's it for now. Thanks for reading this far.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: lionwing on January 17, 2014, 02:10:27 pm
Chris

Looking forward to seeing it develop.   It is a detailed overview.  Do you have a trackplan you could publish?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: newportnobby on January 17, 2014, 02:47:29 pm
Sounds like progress is being made, Chris, and I'm sure your research will pay dividends as the layout build commences.
An overall track plan would be appreciated as Lionwing has requested :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 17, 2014, 02:53:25 pm
Chris

Looking forward to seeing it develop.   It is a detailed overview.  Do you have a trackplan you could publish?

Thanks.

Thank you. Yes, there is a trackplan for Cant Cove (and Penmayne) and the original visualisation for Cant Cove based on a a station on the former Bude branch: Whitstone & Bridgerule. They can be found in the Layout Plans directory. I moved the geographical location and added a branchline. (I'm also thinking of adding a single-road engine shed off a second 3-way point where the prototype had a point linking the station loop the headshunt and the entrance to the goods yard.) I'm still updating the trackplan plus scenery but will scan it and replace the previous version posted elsewhere on the forum.

Cant Cove is designed to be a modular unit which could, in the future, be linked by bridging sections (which may, literally be a bridge on the right) on the left to the future Penmayne board (already planned out) and on the right to a bigger fiddleyard representing Wadebridge, Bodmin, Exeter, Plymouth, Nine Elms, Waterloo, Paddington, etc. Until then, I will have to use cassettes at left and right. (Very boring, but I will have the station yard which is a challenge to shunt and the branch for goods traffic to the Castle Estate: milk, meat, grain, beer, stone, timber, for which I have all the necessary wagons.) I also have a full Working Timetable for Summer Saturdays in 1961-1965 based on Padstow's with additions from Newquay.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 17, 2014, 02:55:40 pm
The plans and visualisations can be found here:

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=album;in=563 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=album;in=563)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 17, 2014, 02:57:26 pm
Sounds like progress is being made, Chris, and I'm sure your research will pay dividends as the layout build commences.
An overall track plan would be appreciated as Lionwing has requested :thumbsup:

Thanks, Nobby. I hope the enforced wait has enabled me to avoid a lot of mistakes by reading and learning from other's experience of layout construction and the advice freely given, here.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: daveg on January 17, 2014, 08:29:48 pm
Progress, Chris!

Keep us posted as things develop.

dave G
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on January 17, 2014, 08:36:14 pm
Looking forward to seeing this develop.
Hopefully some pictures at some stage .
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 17, 2014, 09:04:37 pm
Thank you, Dave, Port Perran. Although Cant Cove is a North Cornwall Railway station, the line from Wadebridge to Penmayne on which Cant Cove is the passing place was LSWR with GWR running powers from the start and Port Perran (GWR) was one of the influences. Interestingly, I believe Port Perran is connected with the Padstow - Newquay - Truro line and will also feature SR and WR motive power as will Cant Cove and, later, Penmayne. As it was Padstow saw WR 57XX pannier tanks and 45XX prairie tanks not to mention Ivatt 2-6-2Ts, BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4Ts and occasionally, BR Standard 3MT 2-6-2Ts, as well as Class 22 D63XXs, diesel single railcars and 2- and 3-car DMUs, as well as T9s, Ns, and, of course, Bulleid Light Pacifics, and, especially, the "Atlantic Coast Express", which was my first spur to thinking about a N Gauge railway, again, after more than 30 years! And Class 35 Hymeks worked to nearby Bude although not, alas, Class 42 "Warships" and certainly not Class 52 "Westerns".
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on January 17, 2014, 09:11:38 pm
You don't have to be too true to history with your locomotives. After all, it would, I think, have been possible for Westerns and Warships (and indeed other classes) to reach North Cornwall so you may want to feature them as "what ifs".
I run a few locos out of era (just because I like them!).
And yes, Port Perran will be "fictitiously" linking with Newquay and on up to Padstow at some point in the future. That bit may have to wait 10 months till I semi-retire at 60!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 17, 2014, 09:38:31 pm
As late as 1963 the WR began laying new 109lb/yd flat bottom rail on pre-stressed concrete sleepers on parts of the North Cornwall line, so I'm going to imagine that when the WR took over they further* upgraded the Bodmin - Wadebridge - Penmayne line (Penmayne being much larger than Padstow because the line reached it much earlier than the line to Padstow and being a joint line, in effect, the GWR as well as the SR promoted tourism traffic) for through trains to Paddington as well as the summer specials to / from Cardiff, the NW and NE (I'm using Newquay as the example for my Working Timetable) so Class 42s (I have 2) could head the heaviest trains with Class 35 "Hymeks" (I also have 3) on the lighter trains and Class 22s (again 3) on the local trains plus, off season, my two single diesel railcars (no DMUs yet, apart from my BR Green 3-car Class 101 that appears on enthusiast -- RCTS, SLS, CAMRA specials) but I will only run my single Grafar Class 52 for fun. (*Bodmin - Wadebridge was upgraded, as a diversionary route, during WW2 to take 43XXs.) In my pre-diesel timetable as the line has not, yet, been upgraded, WR 41/61/81XXs (again, I have three) and my single "Manor" head the through trains to/from Bodmin replacing heavier 4-6-0s at the junction with the WR mainline. (I do have a couple of "Castles" and "Halls" for post-upgrading specials, too.) And, following Port Perran's example, Penmayne has been loaned a Class 14 for use on the PWM trains during upgrading with part of Cant Cove's goods yard turned over to the PWM dept.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 18, 2014, 07:06:46 pm
You don't have to be too true to history with your locomotives. After all, it would, I think, have been possible for Westerns and Warships (and indeed other classes) to reach North Cornwall so you may want to feature them as "what ifs".
I run a few locos out of era (just because I like them!).
And yes, Port Perran will be "fictitiously" linking with Newquay and on up to Padstow at some point in the future. That bit may have to wait 10 months till I semi-retire at 60!

The final section of the North Cornwall Railway  from Wadebridge to the new terminus at Padstow opened in March 1899. There were plans submitted to Parliament in 1893 for a second line into the terminus, to link Padstow with Newquay and Truro - but this never materialised. From the outset the North Cornwall Railway was worked by the London & South Western Railway.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 18, 2014, 07:15:09 pm
So, here is Cant Cove. The engine shed was a last minute addition. It should be off a standard Peco electrofrog point, SL-E399F, so the positioning is not quite correct. I have tried to add the scenery to scale. Both the left-hand road and the old mineral tramway to the right are deliberately tapered for perspective.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: beestie on January 18, 2014, 07:25:03 pm
sounds like my layout chris on castors  with two handles at the front , look's like a good plan .
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 18, 2014, 07:27:07 pm
sounds like my layout chris on castors  with two handles at the front , look's like a good plan .

Thanks. i probably got the idea for castors and the two handles on the front edge from your layout description. Which castors did you use?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: beestie on January 18, 2014, 07:35:41 pm
i nicked them off the family veg rack :angel: , however i need some more heavy duty ones .
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 18, 2014, 07:39:28 pm
i nicked them off the family veg rack :angel: , however i need some more heavy duty ones .

 :bounce:

I've got two handymen locals looking for suitable castors for me.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: beestie on January 18, 2014, 07:41:02 pm
wouldnt some wheels of a trabbi work , or a skoda?  :P
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 18, 2014, 07:43:21 pm
 :no:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 09, 2014, 06:09:33 am
I have a question, please, about the liveries of the (G)WR 45XX 2-6-2Ts (St. Blazey allocated) that were used in the 1960s by the WR on the Bodmin-Wadebridge-Padstow trains (B-Sets) up to dieselisation. Apart from going through photos in reference books (which I have) and the online data (St. Blazey allocation history) is there any source of info. about what locos. were used and, in particular which liveries? Most photos being monochrome it is difficult to tell which locos carried BR Green and which BR Black liveries; if the loco. is dirty / the lighting / photo quality is not so good sometimes it is even difficult to tell if the livery was lined out or not! I'm thinking that plain BR Black with the Late BR Crest would be the most common? Basically, I need to decide whether I should sell a Dapol BR Black Early Crest (I can easily change the crest) 45XX or a BR Green Early Crest (again, I can easily change the crest). I only need two for my WTT and already have: BR Green Late Crest (lined); plus two 4575 'Slope Tanks' (far less commonly used on the Bodmin-Wadebridge-Padstow trains, judging by the photos I have in books): BR Green Late Crest and BR Black Early Crest (again, I can easily change the crest). Any help would be gratefully received. Is there an online list of which 45XXs carried which liveries or a reference book like the one (Peto's Register) for 14XXs I have?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: ParkeNd on March 09, 2014, 09:59:36 am
Dean Forest Railway has a green 45xx which is being launched on 19th/20th April after a 9 year rebuild. May be totally irrelevant to your needs Chris but I will go and photograph it including any particular bits and angles you may want. I can post them on here or PM them to you. Will be on full frame Nikon D700 with Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 lens so only the idiot pressing the shutter release is low quality.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 09, 2014, 10:10:36 am
Dean Forest Railway has a green 45xx which is being launched on 19th/20th April after a 9 year rebuild. May be totally irrelevant to your needs Chris but I will go and photograph it including any particular bits and angles you may want. I can post them on here or PM them to you. Will be on full frame Nikon D700 with Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 lens so only the idiot pressing the shutter release is low quality.

Many thanks, Chris. That would be very much appreciated as I need to super-detail my 45XX and 4575 2-6-2Ts (lamp irons, etc.) to match the one super-detailed Dapol 4575 Class 'Slope Tank' 5544 [bought renumbered and detailed] in BR Black Early Crest livery (needs recresting to Late Crest) that I have. I have a Dapol ND-035, No. 4565, in BR Green Late Crest, and a Dapol ND060C No. 5530 in BR Green Late Crest so whichever type of Green 45XX the DFR has your photos will be very useful.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: ParkeNd on March 09, 2014, 10:15:09 am
Dean Forest Railway has a green 45xx which is being launched on 19th/20th April after a 9 year rebuild. May be totally irrelevant to your needs Chris but I will go and photograph it including any particular bits and angles you may want. I can post them on here or PM them to you. Will be on full frame Nikon D700 with Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 lens so only the idiot pressing the shutter release is low quality.

Many thanks, Chris. That would be very much appreciated as I need to super-detail my 45XX and 4575 2-6-2Ts (lamp irons, etc.) to match the one super-detailed Dapol 4575 Class 'Slope Tank' 5544 [bought renumbered and detailed] in BR Black Early Crest livery (needs recresting to Late Crest) that I have. I have a Dapol ND-035, No. 4565, in BR Green Late Crest, and a Dapol ND060C No. 5530 in BR Green Late Crest so whichever type of Green 45XX the DFR has your photos will be very useful.

Dean Forest's is 5541.

Will take photos for you 19th April.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 09, 2014, 10:20:04 am
Excellent, Chris.  :claphappy: Whilst I like both types of 45XXs, the Slope Tank 4575s are my favourite so I am delighted that the DFR has one (5541) for you to photograph. I hope you and the DFR will have a fine, sunny day.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: ParkeNd on March 09, 2014, 10:43:04 am
Question Chris. Will Can't Cove follow the established tradition of having platform signs saying it is "Cant Cove for Bude and Lands End"

By the way your layout name is attacked by my iPhone's spell checker while I'm not looking. So my apologies in advance for every time I don't spot "Can't Cove" in future replies.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: ParkeNd on March 09, 2014, 11:02:02 am
Is this website of any use to you. You just key in the loco number in top RH corner and prefix it with S for Steam and you get sightings on dates, and location.

http://www.locoscene.co.uk/locodetail.php?locoid=8615 (http://www.locoscene.co.uk/locodetail.php?locoid=8615)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 09, 2014, 11:11:14 am
Is this website of any use to you. You just key in the loco number in top RH corner and prefix it with S for Steam and you get sightings on dates, and location.

[url]http://www.locoscene.co.uk/locodetail.php?locoid=8615[/url] ([url]http://www.locoscene.co.uk/locodetail.php?locoid=8615[/url])


Wow! That looks like an excellent resource that I had never heard of before, Chris. Many thanks, again.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 26, 2014, 08:33:46 pm
I have just had the initial detailed sketches for the baseboard for Cant Cove emailed to me, a nice birthday present.  :claphappy: However, as all the comments are in Czech and I need to make some amendments, I'm not posting these two sketches yet.

Basically it is a standard (but thin) long oblong wooden frame with three additional cross members (for rigidity) mounted on small castors underneath with a thin board surface fixed on top onto which are to be glued two layers of insulating block with a third layer glued on the right-hand side. However, before they are glued, I want them roughly cut and shaped to fit the detailed scale plan rather than try to cut and carve them afterwards! And there will be a LOT of cutting required! The board will be sea level and fiddle yard level (although the fiddle yard will be raised slightly by the cork underlay). The first insulating block will be for the mainline track and station yard. The second and third blocks will form the upward sloping meadow hillside area (through which the Castle Estate branch will pass in a cutting) and a small cutting on the mainline on the right. Cork insulation strip shaped for the Chinchilla Dust ballast to be glued onto will go under the track and also under the fiddle yard track (no ballasting required).

The four protective sides have to be fitted with the front (perspex) being removable. (The other sides will need to be painted both sides first: sky blue inside and 'SR Green' outside. Provision for arches for the mainline to link to track on future modules with sliding dustproof doors will have to be made)

As soon as possible, the DCC power bus also needs to be fitted with two additional buses, one for lighting and one for (eventually) point points although 'wire-in-a-tube' might be easier and cheaper? Point motors can be buried in cutouts in the insulation board with ballasted card covers, if I go that route.

The frame and the baseboard top will need to be varnished both sides before any gluing of insulation boards takes place.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jonclox on March 26, 2014, 09:05:41 pm
Soon be time to get down and dirty then :)
We shall be watching so keep us well informed  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 26, 2014, 09:23:21 pm
Soon be time to get down and dirty then :)
We shall be watching so keep us well informed  :thumbsup:

Thanks, John. It's been a long time planning but that has meant I have avoided a lot of probable mistakes by learning from others. Wiring should be very inexpensive and the baseboard should not be too expensive. I still need to buy one more Peco Code 55 right-hand point (£8 only) plus 11 metres of Peco Code 55 track wooden and concrete sleepered combined, an order with Hattons, as soon as I get my (expected) tax refund plus pay the remainder of the money (£50 put aside) for the DCC controller. I have most of the scenery already (probably too much of some items, especially figures!). I will have to buy paints and glues; a trip to the local DIY should suffice. Then a trip to a local modelling shop for balsa wood, plastikard etc. for scratch building and kitbashing. I should be able to do some basic scenery work over Easter but most work will have to wait until July and August. I also need to pay for more DCC conversions (I have all the locos., except for a SR 'N') and pay for some locos., after weathering and renumbering, to be shipped here. Not a cheap hobby is it!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on March 26, 2014, 09:56:40 pm
Looking forward to seeing those sketches/plans.
Soon be time to get going on the layout itself.
Looking forward to seeing developments in the near future.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: ParkeNd on March 26, 2014, 11:46:31 pm
Great stuff Chris. Burying points motors in the scenery is easier than I thought it would be, so you should be fine too. 5 of my 9 are buried and just 2 are defeating my imagination so far. I have only used one glue type from a DIY store- the rest tend to be model shop glues. Although creating wild guffaws from the Antipodes gel superglue has proved horrifically expensive - £5.95 for a squeezey container that looks big but empties almost immediately - contains just 3 gms which must be only say 2cc and thus works out at £3000 per litre!!  I reckon my layout has used 3 x 3 gms so far so will use about 25 by the time I have finished just glueing unusual combinations of materials - say £150.

A straight Tracksetta has been the most useful tool and the Swann Morton scalpels were an absolute bargain that get used all day - just £3.80 on Amazon with 5 blades - post free. I have just bought 20 more genuine Swann Morton blades for £3.56 post free via Amazon. If you haven't used them before the how to fit the blades isn't obvious and it's worth looking at their website - substitute long nosed pillars for forceps and keep your fingers well out of the way. They are sharper than you wildest dreams.

The Chinchilla Dust for ballast I have read about. But I wonder if this is taking scale considerations too far?  In N there comes a point where you actually have to see a feature to appreciate it. The videos of a little girl putting it in a plastic globe make it look like flour. Combined with PVA might this not look like slurry? A lot of it on a layout might look like the aftermath of a mudslide. Perhaps a trial first.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 27, 2014, 11:35:18 am
Many thanks Martin. Burying points seems to be the best solution so I'm very glad to read that it's working for you. A far more knowledgeable friend gave me a list of what glues I will need and I'll see what I can source here from both DIY and modelling stores. On my old layout, I think I just used UHU and standard plastic kit tube glue! I'm definitely going to see if I can find cheaper super glue.

I don't have a Tracksetta but I do have a small red plastic track gauger (Peco, I think) and, as on my old layout, I'll rely on pencil and ruler to align tracks and see how that works out!

I have a surgical scalpel with blades, again, from a far more knowledgeable friend who warned me of the dire consequences of not paying 1000% attention when using it! I also have a cheap knife with break off blades inside for cutting cardboard, etc. I do have a small power drill, pliers and a few other household tools but there is an old-fashioned DIY store just around the corner and that will be my first place to go to. However, I will also bear in mind your recommendation for Swann Morton scalpels and blades from Amazon as there will be a lot of material to cut. I will need something large to cut the insulation blocks but am hoping my landlord will come with his toolbox!

I have not bought a soldering iron, etc., but that will have to be done, soon.

First priority will be to get all the scenic blocks of insulation board roughly cut and glued in place. Then tracklaying and wiring. I'm hoping for help with the wiring.

I have a big variety of ballasting and grass materials and will be trying them out on the layout to see what looks best; probably in the fiddle yard where the mistakes won't matter! Chinchilla dust, if I can source it, will be tried for ballasting and yard surfaces. I've read that talcum powder on wet paint is good for roads and platform surfaces so will be trying that out on card and scrap platform pieces, too.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 27, 2014, 11:39:11 am
The plans and visualisations can be found here:

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=album;in=563 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=album;in=563)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on March 27, 2014, 12:12:18 pm
The plans look good.
You are certainly putting a lot of effort into this project.  I really look forward to the actual construction.
Good luck !!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 27, 2014, 12:15:55 pm
Thanks again, Martin. How's the rebuilding of Port Perran going? I can't wait to see some pictures.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 27, 2014, 12:20:00 pm
The plans and visualisations can be found here:

[url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=album;in=563[/url] ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=album;in=563[/url])


These are the earlier plans. There is a full-colour way earlier on this thread. I have added a small single-road loco shed.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on March 27, 2014, 12:42:15 pm
Port Perran is going reasonably well but slow progress at the moment. Unfortunately work gets in the way !!
I will post a few photos when I have the platform area of my main station back on the baseboard. I'm currently reconstructing the station platforms off the layout and bit by bit. I am looking forward to getting it all back in situ.
Very much looking forward to semi-retirement in December when hopefully I can reduce my working week to 2 days or so. I can then start on construction of the extension towards LSWR metals which is only at the planning and ideas stage at the moment. 
My current  idea is that the extension (probably approx. 3ft by 2ft) will be joined to the main  Port Perran layout by a single track girder bridge (similar to the one at Padstow) but it will be removable so that I can take it as a standalone to exhibitions.  Living in a 200 year old Cornish cottage, I find it difficult these days to get my 6X3 main layout down our steep and narrow stairway without damage (either to me or the layout) !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: ParkeNd on March 27, 2014, 01:05:18 pm
Many thanks Martin------------------------ that is my brothers name so close enough Chris

I don't have a Tracksetta but I do have a small red plastic track gauger (Peco, I think) and, as on my old layout, I'll rely on pencil and ruler to align tracks and see how that works out!-----------------------

The function of Tracksettas is far more than just making curves to a specific radius and following pencil lines I found.

The track in the box is far from straight and running the straight Tracksetta along beyween the rails gets the kinks out - the rail might look straight but it wriggles about as you move the Tracksetta along proving that it wasn't straight. Overlapping it from a straight into the toe of a point gets the alignment perfect - and holds it perfect while you fix them down. Also joining rails with a straight Tracksetta in the new piece allows perfect cuts without finding after you join them with rail joiners that one rail is 1\16 shorter than the other because the rail wasn't straight along its whole length when you marked and cut it.

All for about £7.

The little red Peco plastic bit is good for checking after the event that the distance between two tracks is constant - if a little wiggly. But not much else.

The best way to test out what I say is not to buy one.  Hard lesson though.

End of sermon.

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: CarriageShed on March 27, 2014, 01:23:36 pm
Oops. You didn't say elsewhere that you had started a thread for Cant Cove, so I've missed this until now. You've certainly been more detailed with your scenic planning than I have so far. I've just left the white areas in between the track blank and assumed 'there be dragons'!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 27, 2014, 07:29:35 pm
Oops. You didn't say elsewhere that you had started a thread for Cant Cove, so I've missed this until now. You've certainly been more detailed with your scenic planning than I have so far. I've just left the white areas in between the track blank and assumed 'there be dragons'!

Sorry, Pete. This has been 'in gestation' since last summer. As you can see the scenic planning interests me far more than the electrical side! I've taken inspiration from many real life books on railways in North Cornwall and some great layouts set in Cornwall, beginning with Port Perran but including other WR ones like (in alphabetical order) Chetcombe, Parkend, and Teignbridge, Langstone & Holcombe, for instance. I've overbought locos. and scenic items and, ahem, still need to buy track (11 metres of it) and one remaining point and, erm, a DCC controller! (Although I have a £50 deposit on one.) The Holy Well will be moved, I've decided nearer the station.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 27, 2014, 07:40:29 pm
Many thanks, Chris, I had NO idea what a Tracksetta is, having never read of anyone using one. On my old layout (30 years ago) I used Peco Streamline track and Setrack points and did not need a Tracksetta to get my tracks (and the sleepers and rails thereof) all nicely lined up (with no gaps) and the twin tracks nicely parallel. So, I'm guessing Code 55 track is more troublesome?

There is scarcely a straight piece of track of any length in Cant Cove. There seem to be a variety of Tracksettas. Will a standard straight one suffice? If so, I'll add one to my Hattons order for 11 metres of track (mostly wooden sleepered but with at least 2 concrete sleepered -- yes, the WR laid some shortly before line closure, of course, in real life!) plus the one point which I don't have.

My three-way point arrived (bought without box or leaflet) but VGC and has various mysterious thin wires attached  . . .
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: ParkeNd on March 27, 2014, 07:51:33 pm
Many thanks, Chris, I had NO idea what a Tracksetta is, having never read of anyone using one. On my old layout (30 years ago) I used Peco Streamline track and Setrack points and did not need a Tracksetta to get my tracks (and the sleepers and rails thereof) all nicely lined up (with no gaps) and the twin tracks nicely parallel. So, I'm guessing Code 55 track is more troublesome?

There is scarcely a straight piece of track of any length in Cant Cove. There seem to be a variety of Tracksettas. Will a standard straight one suffice? If so, I'll add one to my Hattons order for 11 metres of track (mostly wooden sleepered but with at least 2 concrete sleepered -- yes, the WR laid some shortly before line closure, of course, in real life!) plus the one point which I don't have.

My three-way point arrived (bought without box or leaflet) but VGC and has various mysterious thin wires attached  . . .

I used the straight and the 12" radius more than anything else. not sure if Hattons do them. Got mine from Rails of Sheffield.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 27, 2014, 08:02:32 pm
Thanks, again, Chris. I'll buy a straight one, then. I think as i have no full curves (as you do) that should suffice.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 27, 2014, 08:35:18 pm
Thanks, Chris. A picture really is worth a LOT of words. Definitely a straight Tracksetta but I think I can manage the curves myself (I doubt whether any would fit these templates anyway).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Michiel on May 11, 2014, 08:19:23 pm
Hello Chris,

I just discovered your layout project. I kind of miss the images and track plans to illustrate the text, but from what I have found, I can see a very lovely little station with lots of opportunity of detailing and shunting. One thing that jumped into my mind looking at the track plan, was the rather small hidden yard. I would maximise it, because once you start running those trains across the layout, you never have enough hidden yard tracks.

I'll follow your project with interest and curiosity.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 11, 2014, 09:37:07 pm
Many hanks, Michiel, the plans and visualisations can be found here:

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=album;in=563 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=album;in=563)

Unfortunately the layout is sized to fit under half of a double bed so there is no way of extending the hidden sidings. Its designed as the first module of a (distant) future larger layout, one end of which will be the module containing the busy dockside terminus of Penmayne (inspired by Padstow, North Cornwall). Intermediary modules(s) will feature bridges and country scenes.

Cant Cove is meant as a working diorama with frequent changes of figures and vehicles to tell small stories. (There is an extensive back story.) The detailing and scenic work is what I'm really looking forward to and, apart from rolling stock, is what i have heavily invested in. You're right that there are a lot of shunting possibilities, I'm glad to say! It is based on a real-life former station in the area (on the former line to Bude) with a couple of additions and a change of location to the side of an estuary (the mouth of the River Camel).

Most trains are through trains to / from Penmayne with BR Southern and Western Region steam and diesel trains running according to Working Timetables for the years 1961 - 1969 which was a period of incredible changes.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jonclox on May 12, 2014, 10:53:10 am
Looking forward to seeing work commence  :)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: belstone on May 12, 2014, 11:14:59 am
You can't spend too much time planning a layout. It saves you from having to take a Stanley knife to one of your new bits of scenery, chop it all out and start again...  :-[
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on May 12, 2014, 07:07:49 pm
Not sure I follow that last post ??
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 12, 2014, 07:42:45 pm
Err, me neither, Martin. I'm still waiting for my baseboard to be delivered but as I won't have any free time to work on it until the end of June, i don't mind. I have bought a lot of kits to adapt, make, paint and weather though not to mention a LOT of other scenic items including little people. However, next month, I need to visit my local DIY (there is one very close to me) and modelling supplies shops to stock up with glues, paints, and a few more cutting and smoothing items!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: A.Carter (BiG-T) on May 12, 2014, 07:46:41 pm
You can't spend too much time planning a layout. It saves you from having to take a Stanley knife to one of your new bits of scenery, chop it all out and start again...  :-[
Not sure I follow that last post ??
I had to do exactly this on a layout I bought the head shunt was too short by about 100mm so I had to attack the scenery with a Stanley knife to enable me to extend the track. I then had to re-do the scenery along the cut etc.
Much the same as they do on the 12'' to the foot scale only they do it with excavators and nature replaces the scenery!

Tony
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on May 12, 2014, 07:46:58 pm
Hopefully you will have plenty of time to enjoy building your layout over the Summer months.
I'm certainly looking forward to seeing a start being made.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 12, 2014, 08:02:23 pm
Ah, now, I understand, Tony. As the scenery (hilly meadows) rises towards the back I can squeeze one storage siding under a hill whilst the others will be behind the backscene. The (very) short branchline will be in a cutting lined with trees above so the gap in the backscene where it enters the fiddleyard should be hidden. It's only for goods trains, except for the old four-wheeled coach used for Castle guests, and the locos will be 0-6-0s, pannier tanks or Class 03 or 04 diesel shunters (although my outside crank Class 08 will be used for gauging trials as elsewhere. The "Atlantic Coast Express" to / from Waterloo, the "Cornish Belle" Pullman to / from Waterloo, and the "Cornubian" to / from Paddington will NOT be running along there, if Cant Cove's signalman wants to keep his job that is"
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 12, 2014, 08:08:46 pm
Hopefully you will have plenty of time to enjoy building your layout over the Summer months.
I'm certainly looking forward to seeing a start being made.

Me, too, Martin. However, the enforced delay has enabled me to read up a lot and study what other members have done. It's the scenery that I'm REALLY looking forward to (I have lots of little stories to tell with all the figures). I've laid N Gauge track before BUT only very simple DC with hand operated points and two separate controllers. This time, I'm using DCC and have a three-way point to cope with! At first, I'm using joiners with wires presoldered and all points will be hand operated (with provision to add Cobalt motors following Michiel's example, later. Having the baseboard covered in insulating tile makes 'burying' points much easier!

I still have to order the 11 metres of track and one more point from Hattons and a DCC controller. I already have quite a few DCC-fitted locos to run but many more await the trip to Wickness Works!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: belstone on May 13, 2014, 07:54:43 am
Err, me neither, Martin.

Sorry if my last comment baffled you, it was a reference to what I have had to do to the scenery on my own layout, which I might have avoided if I'd spent a bit more time thinking before I started actually constructing anything.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 13, 2014, 09:16:47 am
Err, me neither, Martin.

Sorry if my last comment baffled you, it was a reference to what I have had to do to the scenery on my own layout, which I might have avoided if I'd spent a bit more time thinking before I started actually constructing anything.

Thanks. I understand your point, now. Well, I have had nearly 6 months to think everything out and have learnt a tremendous amount from NGF members (and books) so, I hope, that I will avoid some of the worst mistakes but I'm sure that I will still make some. However, as I wrote, Cant Cove is very much meant to be an exercise in 'learning by doing'. It's principal purpose is a working diorama (so I can create realistic scenery) with many interesting through trains (alas no continuous running) and interesting shunting operations with a small goods yard, PWM siding, and branch to the Castle Estate (which generates a LOT of diverse traffic). It's designed as a module for the future when (if) I have more space next decade.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on May 13, 2014, 12:53:30 pm
Cant Cove is very much meant to be an exercise in 'learning by doing'.

Soldering  :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: belstone on May 13, 2014, 02:42:09 pm
'learning by doing'

Same here.  This is the first layout I've built in 15 years and the first ever to have anything resembling proper scenery. So I'm trying lots of new (to me) techniques, and have a long (and still growing) list of things I will do differently on the next layout. Baseboard construction, point motors, wiring, ballasting....
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 13, 2014, 05:24:14 pm
'learning by doing'

Same here.  This is the first layout I've built in 15 years and the first ever to have anything resembling proper scenery. So I'm trying lots of new (to me) techniques, and have a long (and still growing) list of things I will do differently on the next layout. Baseboard construction, point motors, wiring, ballasting....

My last layout (also N Gauge) was more than 30 years ago and I have the same long list of things to learn, too. However, I'm having the baseboard built for me by a local 'handyman', which is why I still don't have it! However, I won't have time until the end of June to work on it.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 13, 2014, 05:25:51 pm
Cant Cove is very much meant to be an exercise in 'learning by doing'.

Soldering  :D

I know I won't be able to avoid soldering but am doing my best to postpone it!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on May 13, 2014, 06:05:22 pm
I know I won't be able to avoid soldering but am doing my best to postpone it!

It's really not that bad. If I can do it (and I was dreading it!) you can.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 13, 2014, 06:07:25 pm
I know I won't be able to avoid soldering but am doing my best to postpone it!

It's really not that bad. If I can do it (and I was dreading it!) you can.

Thanks, Martin, for the encouragement. :beers:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on May 13, 2014, 06:15:01 pm
I look at my first (ever) attempts at soldering the droppers to the rails, and they have big blobs of solder on the sides of the track.
They don'y look good, but once they are rust painted they disappear. I melted a few sleepers too, but they will disappearing when ballasted.
I know that if I did it again now I would do a much much better job, but it really doesn't matter as it serves its purpose.
I never ever dreamed that I would be able to do the intricate soldering needed for the 25 pin connectors, but I did it.
You don't know what you can do until you try it.
I had a 10 minute demo shown to me at my club, that's all........
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 13, 2014, 06:20:02 pm
Thanks, Mike. Ironically, my father was an expert at soldering but learning how to do it never interested me when I wa sgrowing up; unlike woodwork and painting which i did learn the basics of and enjoyed.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chetcombe on May 15, 2014, 04:40:01 am
Thanks, Mike. Ironically, my father was an expert at soldering but learning how to do it never interested me when I wa sgrowing up; unlike woodwork and painting which i did learn the basics of and enjoyed.

Same with me as a young lad - my dad did all the soldering. As a child I was fascinated by the soldering iron and would often have a play with it when he was not looking. I remember turning a late 1970s white metal HST kit into something that inspired us to create a scrap yard in a corner of the layout :whistle:

As for the burns on my hands and fingers and the odd singed item of clothing, the less said the better. Seriously though, with a decent soldering iron practice makes perfect. Just don't forget the flux, ignore the advice of anyone who says it is not necessary!

Good luck
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chinahand on May 15, 2014, 09:41:41 am
Lots of excellent pre-planning has been done Chris so I'm looking forward to seeing your project start soon now.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Michiel on May 15, 2014, 10:22:31 am
Hello Chris,

I'm coming back to your hidden yard. Why don't you maximise it? I modified your track plan as an illustration.
(http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/ab181/Modelspoor/Varia/Chris_zps1961f893.jpg) (http://s862.photobucket.com/user/Modelspoor/media/Varia/Chris_zps1961f893.jpg.html)

Note the quantity of small tracks left an right to hold locomotives and small railcars. The centre tracks can hold a multiple of small trains per track, or if choosen, one large train per track. A large hidden yard is a big added value during the operation of your layout. Just a suggestion, nothing more.  ;)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 21, 2014, 10:44:01 pm
Thanks, Trevor. Your layout was one of my early inspirations although set about 30 - 40 years earlier and on the GWR rather than a ex-LSWR line with GWR running powers.

Thanks, Michiel, for going to all that trouble. Much appreciated. My very first N Gauge layout on a baseboard was the standard twin ovals with two stations at the top and bottom of the long straight sections and a goods yard in the middle, a small, twin road diesel shed in the bottom right-hand corner and a quarry line on the left hand edge. I know I will miss watching trains go round and round but i wanted to model something based on a real life prototype and make it as authentically ex-LSWR in North Cornwall as possible (not least so that I can enjoy all the escenic work and place all my figures) so I will stick with what I worked out after much time and thought. (And I have all but one of the points already bought, here.) I know the fiddle yard will only be enough to hold the goods wagons going to and from the Castle Estate plus the private four-wheeled Teak coach and the mainline passenger trains will just run through from one cassette to another but it is designed to be modular and, in the distant future, will be connected to little modules on either side with bridges, maybe a tunnel, and then the terminus of Penmayne itself. Eventually, at the other end, maybe Wadebridge? I can dream. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Michiel on May 22, 2014, 09:43:17 am
No problem. I'm looking forward to it.  ;)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Bob Wild on June 09, 2014, 12:47:54 am
What's the delivery date on your base board? Can't wait to see some progress after so much detailed planning.

Bob
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 09, 2014, 06:37:00 am
What's the delivery date on your base board? Can't wait to see some progress after so much detailed planning.

Bob

Thanks, Bob. A good point. I've been so busy with academic work that I have not been chasing up about the delivery date. I will do so, this week, as I have a quiet week before the last two busy weeks at the end of this month. I plan to take delivery at the beginning of July. What i am planning to do, this week, is to start work on constructing the buildings after I have paid a visit to my local model shop(s) to stock up on plasticard, glues and paints. The delay has, if anything, only improved what I will be building as I'm still learning from others and doing research.

I will be posting a full 'back story' for Cant Cove and Penmayne and a local map.

I will also be posting detailed pictures and text about the buildings so that I can pass on what I've learned and get advice from others. I am planning to light the buildings, the station lamps and the street lamps, too. Points will not be electrically operated at first but provision to do so will be planned. After reading about others' experiences, I'm planning to use (probably) Tortoise, maybe Cobalt, and Conrad point motors. The Tortoise / Cobalt ones will be for the scenic part of my layout and the Conrad ones for the off-scene fiddle yard -- the Castle Estate.

I've been busy buying N Scale figures as Cant Cove is planned as a working diorama with lots of little stories to see. I'm also still revising (buying and selling) my rolling stock. So, whilst not much appears to be happening, actually I am working on / thinking about Cant Cove almost every spare moment! 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Bob Wild on June 09, 2014, 10:03:19 am
actually I am working on / thinking about Cant Cove almost every spare moment! 8-)

Cheers Chris. I know what you mean about thinking almost every spare moment. These things do tend to prey on your mind.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 09, 2014, 11:28:19 am
Thanks for understanding, Bob. I'm far less impetuous these days than I was 30 years ago.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on June 09, 2014, 06:32:09 pm
I'm really looking forward to seeing things develop here.
Can't wait for the first tracks to be laid.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 09, 2014, 08:35:01 pm
Thanks, Martin. I have sent a text message to my landlord (who is really very interested in my model railway plans) to ask the handyman what is happening with the baseboard and how much it will cost. I have vowed to stop buying N Scale figures from now on as I need to buy the one remaining point I don't have (E391F); (however, I have 1 spare E388F, 3 spare E389F, and 3 spare E395F if anyone wants to do a swop? but I need to check by laying every point out, first), and 11 metres of flexi track, mainly timber sleepers but at least three with concrete sleepers (as laid by the WR in 1963) for the mainline.

This week I, at least, want to buy plasticard, balsa wood, glues, and paints as I have a lot of 'stone-built' Ratio kits waiting to be adapted and buildings to scratch build. I want to start with scratchbuilding the small signalbox which stood on the platform at Whitstone and Bridgerule station -- the prototype for Cant Cove station. (I have an interior kit to adapt. I want to light the interior with a LED, so the roof will have to be removeable.)

My second BR SR Green Bulleid coach arrived, today, a very nice CK to add to my SK. Now, I need at least one BSK. As you noted, Martin, there's a good article about Bulleid coaches in the NGS Magazine that arrived today, too. It, correctly, points out that the SO is no use for the Western District (North Cornwall or North Devon). If Alan (Etched Pixels) has the overlays to make a Bulleid BCK I will then need two Bulleid BSKs. However, I can use one of my BR MkI BCKs instead of a Bulleid BCK as the SR started replacing its Bulleid BCKs with BR Standard ones first.

I regretfully have decided to sell my second DCC-fitted BR Maroon Class 42 "Warship" D829 "Magpie" as two "Warships" (I have BR Green "Dragon") are more than enough and my third BR Green (this one Factory Weathered) non-DCC fitted Class 22 as I want to buy a BR Blue D one, instead whilst Hattons still has them on special offer.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 10, 2014, 08:56:25 am
I have cut some old cereal packets so that l can make cardboard mock-ups of the scratchbuilt station buildings for Cant Cove to check I have everything right before beginning the plasticard versions. I want to start with the small signalbox as whilst i have plans for some LSWR signalboxes I don't have of the small ones used on the North Cornwall Railway. I do have plenty of pictures though for judging proportions. I'm planning to use a plasticard and clear plastic (for the large windows) combination with stone and slate sheet overlays and fittings from Ratio and / or cannibalised Kestrel kits.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Michiel on June 10, 2014, 09:13:43 am
Great! First real constructive activities. Don't be shy now, and show us the result of the mock-up works, will you?  I'm curious to see this project getting build. ;)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2014, 05:22:42 pm
Alas, not much progress to report, Michiel. I pulled out the scale plans which I have for other LSWR (Corfe Castle and Wool) signalboxes but the are not very similar to the North Cornwall Railway (NCR) ones at all. So, I have just ordered "Signal Boxes of the London and South Western Railway: A Study of Architectural Style" which, I have read, has a more useful signalbox diagram for the NCR.

However, I do have scale plans of North Cornwall Railway station buildings so I may start with mock-ups of those instead, this weekend.

ABM Railcraft now produce very nice looking cardboard kits of LSWR 'North Cornwall' station buildings but, again, the signalbox is nothing like that at Whitstone & Bridgerule (the model for Cant Cove) and I'd rather scratchbuild / kitbash everything in plasticard / plastic kit parts. However, the ABM Railcraft NCR (Padstow) canopy might tempt me. The quick way out would be to buy all the kits, (except the signalbox), and then use the cardboard kits as templates for my own plastic ones. However, that would end up rather expensive! (About £70, in total.)

Regarding the long curved platforms of Whitstone & Bridgerule, they were 460 feet long, which translates to, I think, 920mm or 92cm, in N Scale. As the whole baseboard will have a length of 194cm (a little over 6ft.) that means that I can pretty much build scale length platforms. But how do I match the curve of the platforms to a specific radius (e.g. a Tracksetta?) I'm planning to use a combination of PECO N - Lineside Kit: NB 27: PLATFORM EDGING: CONCRETE TYPE (5 items) (X 2) and Lineside Kit: NB 28: PLATFORM EDGING: STONE TYPE (5 items) -- I think I will need another kit -- and PECO N - Lineside Kit: NB 67: PLATFORM EDGING RAMPS: STONE TYPE (2 x pairs) (X 2) with plasticard platform surfaces on plasticard spacers. (Whitstone & Bridgerule had just such a mixture of platform edging on one platform.) The platform side pieces will have to be curved (by scoring vertical lines on the reverse side) to match a template. (Hence my question about setting a radius). My DCC-fitted outside crank Class 08 will be used for gauging trials. I need to allow for the 1.5mm height of the cork strip underlay under the twin tracks though which will represent the base of the shoulder of ballast. That, probably, means that the station platform edging will need to be increased in height correspondingly. However, at Whitstone & Bridgerule the stone-built platform facing has two narrow and one wider 'steps' built under the platform surface edge, probably from brick when the platform height was raised? I can use Ratio brick sheets, I think, again scored on the reverse and curved with a plasticard backing sheet. The concrete-edged section of station platform was noticeably higher with a visible ramp upwards from the older section and this can be achieved by simply placing plasticard strip underneath the Peco platform edging sections and having the platform surface in three sections.

Thinking about it, the solution would appear to use a Tracksetta as the template for the curve of the platform and cork underlays. So far I have 30 and 36 inch radius ones and, to my eyes, the 36 inch one looks about right. (I should also have 18, 15, and 12 inch radius and a 10 inch straight Tracksettas coming.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2014, 05:51:59 pm
CORRECTION: ABM Railcraft do NOT produce the NCR (Padstow) canopy in 2MM, only in 4MM.

My landlord was coming on Friday to discuss my baseboard with me but I, now, will be out all day so it will have to be postponed, again.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2014, 09:43:06 pm
I have cut out a photocopy of the NCR station building and, tomorrow, or the weekend plan to stick them on card (from cereal packets) to make a mockup of Cant Cove station which I will then use as a guide for constructing it from plasticard as the buildings are quite complex in 3D. It will be pretty fiddly to make but I have the summer (well, most of July and August.) Tomorrow afternoon I plan to go to some model shops in the city centre to stock up on plasticard, glues and paints and to see what else they have that would be of use! (Such as embossed stone card.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2014, 09:47:59 pm
I'm going to be putting up for sale two surplus BR SR Green Mk1s, a SO (Blue Riband) S3840 and another BCK (not Blue Riband) S21275 plus my surplus DCC-fitted BR Maroon "Warship" D829 "Magpie" as I need money to buy track and a DCC controller and, anyway, simply don't have space for duplicate stock in my small flat. (I still have two BR SR Green Mk1 SOs and have ordered a BR SR Green Bulleid SO for the "Car Carrier" from Surbiton to Penmayne. Apart from the "Car Carrier" SOs were simply not seen in the SR's Western District.)

Good news! The baseboard should, finally, be ready next week. Alas, I'm busy with visiting U.S. students and professors the last two weeks of June.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 12, 2014, 09:51:20 am
The Gaugemaster Scenics Cloudy Sky backscene (suitable for early summer in North Cornwall I think) has just arrived. It comes in three adjoining sections about 1372 mm / 54" long by 152mm / 6" high so not long enough but high enough. The backscene will be gently curved at the ends. So, I think I need to order another identical backscene as the left and right hand sides of the module for Cant Cove will also have a back scene. I'll see how these look first.

This afternoon I'm off to the (translated) "At The King of Railways" model shop!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Tim.hynd on June 12, 2014, 12:36:10 pm
It comes in three adjoining sections about 1372 mm / 54" long by 152m / 6" high

That's a very high back scene! ;)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on June 12, 2014, 01:02:22 pm
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That's a very high back scene! ;)
I think it's Ok. Just measured my backscene which is also 6 inches high.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Tim.hynd on June 12, 2014, 03:09:02 pm
I was just messing as Chris put 152m instead of mm! ;)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 12, 2014, 04:13:10 pm
Thanks, Martin. The maximum backscene height (and I think this includes the height of the baseboard) is only 18cm which is just over 7 inches so 6 inches is fine.

Yes, sorry, I missed a 'm' out. (I was in a hurry to leave for a meeting.)

Well, "At the King of Model Railways" was underwhelming: the helpful owner spoke no English and I realised I did not have the specialist Czech vocabulary required. The shop overwhelmingly caters for HO gauge, too. Nevertheless I was able to buy four nice Bruchsteinplatte klein (small stone walling) plastic pieces (all he had) which look to be enough to build Cant Cove station buildings at least; plus two larger Heki natural stone pieces (plastic with a foam filling) but no good for buildings; maybe, parts could be used for platform edging? They look designed for walling. The MPL shop selling plastic kits (military models) was far more successful; an assistant spoke English and they had all the basic Humbrol paints (I bought all the colours for a Cornish stone wall; also good for 1960s mens' clothing: browns, blacks, greys; mainly matt, some satin, but I plan to dry brush with matt black afterwards), a very expensive aerosol can of Tamiya grey undercoat, Humbrol thinners, specialist glues including Tamiya cement, very fine paint brushes, set of files files, a scoring knife, plasticard etc. I needed. Certainly enough to begin scratchbuilding, kit constructing, and model figure painting next month (however, I forgot flesh colours). The problem now remains where will I get BR SR colour paints from? I believe it is illegal to post tinlets of paint now from the U.K.? Maybe a model shop in Germany can supply by post?

Another trip to a 'paper shop' enabled me to buy more glues for paper, etc. I did not have the energy (another heatwave day, here) to go to another modelling shop to buy balsa wood. The plasticard was a shock: I remember buying big sheets for next to nothing in thicknesses of a thousandth of an inch and transparent plastic too. Instead I could only buy small rectangles of white polystyrene sheets in fractions of a mm. I bought .2, .3, .4, and .5mm. It will be cheaper to cannibalise the Kestrel kits I bought cheap I think for the basic building walls!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jonclox on June 12, 2014, 04:26:53 pm


Yes, sorry, I missed a 'm' out. (I was in a hurry to leave for a meeting.)
.................................................................(however, I forgot flesh colours)..................
 

That's 2 mistakes in one day.  :dunce:
Please try and concentrate on what your doing or we shall be reporting you to the mods
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 12, 2014, 04:37:21 pm
Two mistakes? Now I know how my students must feel when I grade their assignments!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 13, 2014, 08:59:44 pm
Very busy with meetings all day but managed to return to the plastic kit shop to buy some more Humbrol enamel paints. Of course, I was wrong they do sell acrylic paints, too, I simply did not recognise them! (Having last constructed and painted models 30 years ago!) I still do not have all the colours I need for all the N Scale metal kits that I have collected but, by July, I will have and can get gluing painting! Ian very kindly gave me detailed instructions how to prepare and paint metal kits / figures only some of which i knew. particularly helpful were his detailed instructions on how to paint model people of whom I have quite a few. Some of the old 1960s Preiser N Scale figures I have collected could also do with a more accurate paintjob, too.

Whilst I plan to model LSWR / SR bufferstops, as a stopgap (literally!) I will be using Peco 'rail-built' bufferstop kits (of which I have prior experience) with, later, scratch built buffer-beams from layers of shaped plasticard to look more like the types seen at Padstow (I have an excellent photo showing three types in use). I forgot to buy some 'rust' brown paint so am thinking of mixing some of the colours I have to make my own and match colour pictures. (Or I will simply buy rust along with the other colours I forgot; I have some scooters to paint so will have to research 1960s Lambretta colours! I'm thinking they would have been bright colours?) I'm also planning to mix matt and gloss red paint for the red on the bufferstop beams. Anyone done anything similar?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on June 13, 2014, 09:28:55 pm
Yes Chris, that works well for the bufferstops. Might needs a little "trial & error" to get it just so. Painting the little white lamp on the top requires care - especially the red dot for the glass lens !

Indeed-mixing paint is a good way to get authentic colours. I use acrylics for most things.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 13, 2014, 10:01:34 pm
Thanks, Martin. As I'm used to Humbrol paints, I will use what I've just bought but, when they've been used up will switch to acrylics.

Tomorrow, I hope to make the cardboard mockups of Cant Cove station buildings. Kit construction and painting will have to wait until next month, I think. I will see how much free time I will get the next two weeks. I will begin by spraying everything with an undercoat of Tamiya Grey. (Note to self: must collect a LOT of newspaper and look online for how to use aerosol paint for such purposes!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on June 14, 2014, 08:44:34 am
Hope you will be posting images of those mock-ups for us to have a  little look at.
I may well purchase the baseboard for Trepol Bay in the next few weeks (possibly wait till after Lostwithiel Show) so that I can start to think about track formations etc.
I've als got to decide exactly how I connect the extension to Port Perran which will probably be a spur off the fiddle yard at the back.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 14, 2014, 11:02:58 am
Yes, Martin, I will be posting as many pictures and descriptions as possible to help others in the same way that I have been helped. I will try not to assume any level of pre-existing knowledge and explain what, how, and why I am doing things including the mistakes I make.

The principal problem I face is that U.K. postal regulations prevent the posting of paints and glues (glues I can get from local model shops and general enamel and acrylic paints but not British railway specific ones). Therefore, I will try German online suppliers in the hope that I can order from them as I don't think the German postal services have such restrictions and post is quicker, in any case. Alternatively, I will have to buy generic dark green and cream (I have a Humbrol tinlet of cream) and mix as close an approximation as I can get to BR SR Green and Cream. Of course fading due to sunlight and the sea air would affect the colours anyway, colours in the 1960s not being as long-lasting as they are today. Judging colours from a colour photo on a PC screen is problematic, too; however, I have a nice colour photo of Padstow station freshly repainted in BR SR colours in the 1960s that I can use. Then there is the affect of scale on coloured objects to take into account (see below).

In practice, the so-called scale effect requires a proportion of white paint to be added to the basic colour in order to reduce its chromacity, particularly if your model is to be painted in very dark colours and is especially relevant for small-scale models as the scale viewing distance is much greater for N Scale than 00 Scale. the actual proportions of white paint added will depend partly on the scale of the model, and largely according to the personal preference of the modeller. Therefore, I will be adding some matt white to the US Army Olive Drab I bought for my N Scale Jeep and trailer (for Cant Cove) to lighten the colour. So, I think I can get away with mixing my own BR SR Green and Cream colours.

The reason for the delay in my baseboard is that i will only, my landlord informs me, be paying for the cost of materials. Which is very kind. Although the baseboard should be available for delivery, next week, I won't have uninterrupted free time until the beginning of July to work on it so may delay delivery until the end of this month.

Connecting the extension to Trepol Bay from Port Perran as a spur off the fiddle yard at the back sounds a very good idea. The fiddle yard can then become Wadebridge, Exeter, Exmouth Junction, Waterloo, or Paddington, as required and feed both lines as well as allowing interworking 'via Wadebridge' which would add to the operating interest and would, IMHO, make the most geographical sense, particularly, if you want to have a BCK off the "Atlantic Coast Express" running to Trepol Bay as Wadebridge makes much better operating sense than Padstow as the place where it would be attached / added.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 14, 2014, 12:15:56 pm
Another potential source of traffic for Cant Cove (and Penmayne) as well as Trepol Bay is the 14 SR 4-wheel luggage vans (I presume SR CCTs) fitted internally with hooks for bicycles in 1951 for use on boat trains for use by cyclists going on holiday. They had a bicycle stencilled on the sides, top right corner. Apart from boat trains one was used for new bicycles Ashford to London. They reverted to normal use in 1969. So, I think one each for the use of cyclists to explore the beautiful countryside around Cant Cove and Trepol Bay would be good! (I already gave tree N Scale cyclists.) Now, I need to find a picture of such a Cycle Van.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 14, 2014, 12:47:30 pm
The Cycle Vans were the SR 4-wheel PMVs not CCTs. I believe that the PMVs will also be available in N, soon, though.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 14, 2014, 01:42:04 pm
Cambridge Custom Transfers Sheet BL97 - BR Ex-GWR Dias. P19, P22, P25; Ex-SR Dias. 3091, 3092, 3094, 3101, 3103, 3105 4-wheeled passenger brake, CCT & PMV vans; sufficient for 26 vans; has the stencilled cycle symbols for the bike vans.

2mm scale price is £7.00

http://www.cctrans.freeserve.co.uk/products.htm (http://www.cctrans.freeserve.co.uk/products.htm)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 14, 2014, 01:45:13 pm
There is a photo. of a SR Cycle Van, I've been told, in the Gould book 'SR Passenger Vans' and King 'An Illustrated History of Southern Coaches', the same photo (by H. Casserley). Alas, I have neither book.

Interestingly, Czech Railways still has diesel railbus trailers fitted out as Cycle Vans used in the summer. Imagining BR having built Cycle Vans for use with Pacers!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on June 14, 2014, 08:59:08 pm

Slightly off topic, but a few years ago, to encourage people to use bikes rather than cars in the town centre, Ipswich buses ran a double decker bus that towed a trailer for cycles.
It had a really catchy appropriate name, but was so memorable I have forgotten it  :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on June 14, 2014, 09:11:28 pm
Suffolk Buscycle !
I didn't know, I "googled" it.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 14, 2014, 09:32:39 pm
SR CCTs had opening end doors, with four vents. The forthcoming Graham Farish SR PMV is OK for a Cycle Van; so I will buy a second one (when they are available) and buy the transfers to convert my first SR PMV to a SR Cycle Van for tourists arriving on through trains from Waterloo to Penmayne from where the cyclists will have to cycle, or take the summer only two-car (twin brake end coaches) Cant Cove Shuttle, to Cant Cove.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 14, 2014, 09:33:59 pm
Alas, no time to build the Cant Cove station mockups, today. I hope that I will have some free time, next week.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 25, 2014, 11:04:44 pm
At last progress!

The baseboard for Cant Cove arrived, this afternoon, brought by my landlord in his company's big van!

Despite careful measurements the board is both slightly too long (the cardboard template fits under the bed at 194cm long but the board at the same length does not -- it has to be slid under the bed diagonally) and the the cover too tall (because of the castor wheels underneath the baseboard). So, it's gone away to be shortened slightly (down to just under 190cm) and the castors repositioned to reduce the overall height of the board with the cover on (which also needs handles fitted and the hand holes covered up -- to keep dust out), which is not a problem as it was already as long as it could be to fit through doors and in the lift. (The board should return in a week or so for fitting the polystyrene insulating sheets for building up the trackbase and scenery.)

I don't mind losing a few cm / inches off one end. (I can, simply, shorten the station slightly which is a decent length, with platforms about 80cm, about 16 wagons, or about 5 coaches long, without a loco. 2 coaches will be the norm for local services and 4 -5 for London trains, 5 - 6 for summer specials as the station loops are much longer than the platforms and, in fact, they platforms could be extended by about 10cm). The width of the board, however, is very limited (74cm) so the Castle Estate branch will be VERY short before it disappears behind the back scene into the fiddle yard which has a very short headshunt (about 30cm; i.e. 6 wagons! Even less with a small loco.) However, I think I can move the fiddle yard entrance point to the left which will enable me to lengthen the headshunt somewhat.

I will post pictures, tomorrow.

Time for bed.

I have also been sorting out N Scale plans for the station buildings and the LSWR Type 4 signalbox so that I can make cardboard mockups before commencing building in plastic knowing what goes where and what parts I still need to buy.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: daveg on June 26, 2014, 07:31:37 am
Looking forward to seeing the layout come to life, Chris!

Dave G
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on June 26, 2014, 09:03:38 am
Some progress at last then Chris.

I'm beginning to wish that I had somebody professional make up my boards, as I am beginning to see that my carpentry skills were not up to scratch.
I didn't really have a clear idea of what I was supposed to be making.
Never mind, they will just have to do now as I have got too far with the layout to start again.
Lessons learned for next time though....
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 26, 2014, 09:54:12 am
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-MODEL-CantCovebaseboardcover_zps5e611551.jpg)

Here is the baseboard cover designed to keep dust out of the layout when it is stowed under the bed.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 26, 2014, 09:57:25 am
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-MODEL-CantCovebaseboardtop_zps2b38714f.jpg)

Cant Cove baseboard top. (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-MODEL-CantCovebaseboardtop_zps2b38714f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 26, 2014, 10:03:01 am
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-MODEL-CantCovebaseboardbottom_zpsa1f29f85.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-MODEL-CantCovebaseboardbottom_zpsa1f29f85.jpg.html)

Cant Cove baseboard bottom showing frame and castors. It's proposed that the castors be repositioned on pieces of wood within the frame rather than on the frame to reduce the overall height of the baseboard. There are grooves for wires cut into the frame crosspieces. 'Roady tape' will be used to fix the wires underneath the board to enable them to be repositioned as required.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 26, 2014, 10:05:09 am
Looking forward to seeing the layout come to life, Chris!

Dave G

Thanks, Dave. Cardboard mockups of the station and other buildings are next on the list. Then mass spraying of Tamiya Undercoat grey on all the plastic and metal kit parts (and there are a LOT).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 26, 2014, 10:13:57 am
Some progress at last then Chris.

I'm beginning to wish that I had somebody professional make up my boards, as I am beginning to see that my carpentry skills were not up to scratch.
I didn't really have a clear idea of what I was supposed to be making.
Never mind, they will just have to do now as I have got too far with the layout to start again.
Lessons learned for next time though....

Sorry to read that. I spent a lot of time reading on the forum and elsewhere about baseboard construction. Whilst I got good grades for woodwork at school I have none of the tools or the workshop space to build a baseboard so my landlord's volunteering to get it built for me was a big help. The downside is that I have to wait until the handyman has time to work on it. However, my landlord is hopeful that the reduction in length of the board and cover and alterations to the board and cover should not take more than a week or so. The next step will be to glue the layers of insulating material on top which will form the trackbase and the layers of scenery. All the basic arranging of the scenic blocks will be done before tracklaying and wiring commence.

Next week, I'm planning to draw the plan on to the cardboard template to see how everything will look full size. I still have to buy one point and the track plus the DCC controller.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on June 26, 2014, 11:50:41 am
Glad to see progress at last.
Looking forward to seeing the developments in the near future
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: newportnobby on June 26, 2014, 01:22:38 pm
Huzzah - now we're cooking, Chris :claphappy:
Really looking forward to seeing things come together :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 26, 2014, 02:28:59 pm
Thanks, guys. The long wait has been worth it as it has given me plenty of time to read, plan, and think. A nice coat of mid-green, approximating to BR SR Green, for the layout cover is planned depending on what paint I can pick up from a local DIY store!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jonclox on June 26, 2014, 02:33:46 pm
Thanks, guys. The long wait has been worth it as it has given me plenty of time to read, plan, and think.A nice coat of mid-green, approximating to BR SR Green, for the layout cover is planned depending on what paint I can pick up from a local DIY store!
Quick self drying wet paint would be your best option and its fairly cheap if you buy 2 litre tins
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: CarriageShed on June 26, 2014, 02:37:35 pm
There is a photo. of a SR Cycle Van, I've been told, in the Gould book 'SR Passenger Vans' and King 'An Illustrated History of Southern Coaches', the same photo (by H. Casserley). Alas, I have neither book.

I have the Mike King book. The cycle vans are nothing special, just standard Luggage PMVs (essentially the same as PLVs), with a bicycle stencil in the top right corner of each side, the normal single vent ends, horizontal bars behind the windows, and the letters PMV below the BR (SR) running number on each side. Interestingly the unit in the photo doesn't have the short rainstrips over each of the doors.

The books says that in the 1950s fourteen vans were reserved for the use of cyclists travelling to/from the Continent. The vans were Nos 1055/7, 1103/13/75, 1208/82/93, 1305/14/7. 1454, 1728, and 1882.

Interestingly, Czech Railways still has diesel railbus trailers fitted out as Cycle Vans used in the summer. Imagining BR having built Cycle Vans for use with Pacers!

I'm dreading the withdrawal of the HSTs on West Country routes for just that kind of reason. The cycle capacity on the newer CrossCountry DMUs is ridiculous - a two-bike vertical hanging rack. You try getting your bike hanging there when the train is packed, let alone when it's empty and you have room to manoeuvre (and the strength to haul up a heavy steel-framed bike). It's horrible.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 26, 2014, 03:39:21 pm
There is a photo. of a SR Cycle Van, I've been told, in the Gould book 'SR Passenger Vans' and King 'An Illustrated History of Southern Coaches', the same photo (by H. Casserley). Alas, I have neither book.

I have the Mike King book. The cycle vans are nothing special, just standard Luggage PMVs (essentially the same as PLVs), with a bicycle stencil in the top right corner of each side, the normal single vent ends, horizontal bars behind the windows, and the letters PMV below the BR (SR) running number on each side. Interestingly the unit in the photo doesn't have the short rainstrips over each of the doors.

The books says that in the 1950s fourteen vans were reserved for the use of cyclists travelling to/from the Continent. The vans were Nos 1055/7, 1103/13/75, 1208/82/93, 1305/14/7. 1454, 1728, and 1882.

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Many thanks. If I may, I'll PM you to ask you to send me a scan of the picture of the cycle van.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: CarriageShed on June 26, 2014, 05:26:21 pm
Many thanks. If I may, I'll PM you to ask you to send me a scan of the picture of the cycle van.

Go right ahead, although it'll probably be a photo rather than a scan. The scanner is problematical at best.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 28, 2014, 10:19:55 am
Many thanks, Pete. PM sent.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 28, 2014, 01:52:46 pm
I'm still working on scale plans for the station buildings for Cant Cove. I've been using a Preiser N Scale figure of a surveyor with measuring stick (!) to judge whether I have correctly scaled building plans by putting him next to building's doors but then realised that he is, as a friend mentioned, 1:160 not 1:148 so need to rescale, again, the building plans using a Merit N Scale 1:148 figure. The main thing will be to have the buildings which will be located next to each other to the same scale. Currently, 75% of 00 seems to be right rather than 50%.

This weekend, I plan to draw up the plans for my LSWR Type 4 signalbox (the two books with plans that I needed arrived this week, especially useful is: "Signal Boxes of the London & south Western Railway: A Study of Architectural Style" by G. A. Pryer, The Oakwood Press, 2000) and, I hope, start to make the cardboard mockups of the station buildings ready to use as guides for the plasticard versions so that I will know what goes where and what parts I still need to buy. (A job lot of assorted windows have arrived.) I now have to decide what Evergreen strip I will need to build the signalbox. (Hence the need for a correct scale plan!) What size strips have you found the most useful, please?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 28, 2014, 07:59:33 pm
Thanks, guys. The long wait has been worth it as it has given me plenty of time to read, plan, and think.A nice coat of mid-green, approximating to BR SR Green, for the layout cover is planned depending on what paint I can pick up from a local DIY store!
Quick self drying wet paint would be your best option and its fairly cheap if you buy 2 litre tins

Thanks, John.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 28, 2014, 08:00:02 pm
Chris

Looking forward to seeing it develop.   It is a detailed overview.  Do you have a trackplan you could publish?

Thanks.

Thank you. Yes, there is a trackplan for Cant Cove (and Penmayne) and the original visualisation for Cant Cove based on a a station on the former Bude branch: Whitstone & Bridgerule. They can be found in the Layout Plans directory. I moved the geographical location and added a branchline. (I'm also thinking of adding a single-road engine shed off a second 3-way point where the prototype had a point linking the station loop the headshunt and the entrance to the goods yard.) I'm still updating the trackplan plus scenery but will scan it and replace the previous version posted elsewhere on the forum.

Cant Cove is designed to be a modular unit which could, in the future, be linked by bridging sections (which may, literally be a bridge on the right) on the left to the future Penmayne board (already planned out) and on the right to a bigger fiddleyard representing Wadebridge, Bodmin, Exeter, Plymouth, Nine Elms, Waterloo, Paddington, etc. Until then, I will have to use cassettes at left and right. (Very boring, but I will have the station yard which is a challenge to shunt and the branch for goods traffic to the Castle Estate: milk, meat, grain, beer, stone, timber, for which I have all the necessary wagons. I also have a full Working Timetable for Summer Saturdays in 1961-1965 based on Padstow's with additions from Newquay.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 28, 2014, 08:06:24 pm
At last, I have a scale plan for Cant Cove signal box (scaled down from Farncombe East Signal Box but adapted for being on the station platform instead of the ground and with only one small window under the nameboard and stone-built instead of brick). I am using standardised door heights of 15mm (based on a Merit N British railway man figure).

Now to scale a plan of a North Cornwall Railway waiting shelter.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on June 28, 2014, 08:46:43 pm
Good to see that progress is being made here. Looking forward to the actual models. Are you still planning to make cardboard mock-ups first ?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 28, 2014, 09:32:39 pm
Good to see that progress is being made here. Looking forward to the actual models. Are you still planning to make cardboard mock-ups first ?

Thanks, Martin. Yes, I am still planning to make cardboard mock-ups first just to make sure everything looks fine. I still have to decide which rough stone sheets to use to build the actual plasticard models. I have 4 X German Auhagen sheets, bought in Prague, and 2 X RATIO N: 302 COARSE STONE sheets. However, I'm also considering the Slaters 0435 0.5mm x 300 x 174mm Dressed Stone Grey 2mm Plastikard Sheets and the the KIBRI PLASTIC KIT 37960 N WALL SECTION NATURAL sheets. Ideally, I want to use the same type of sheets for all the station buildings.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 03, 2014, 11:06:16 am
Not a very productive week as I've gone down with some kind of cold (aches, pains, high temperature, sore throat, etc., etc.). However, I have now got N Scale plans ready for all the station area buildings including the distinctive LSWR Type 4 Signal Box. (However, I'm still debating which type of rough stone plastic sheets to use.) I've been reading up, further, on model building construction. I've also had the full-size cardboard template for the baseboard out to begin marking in what goes where from the scale plans and, so far, it's looking good. I've also found a suitable kit-built small bridge (from my big collection of different types and sizes) that with a bit of TLC, glue, plasticard strip and painting should be fine for the bridge before the station where the line crosses the narrow entrance to Cant Cove itself. I also have a slightly longer one (ready built, not from a kit) and I have various 'stone' bridge abutments in plastic and plaster that can be used but until the first layer of insulating board is placed on top of most of the baseboard will not know how high the bridge abutments will need to be.

I've also been studying prototype pictures, especially colour ones to get a visual 'feel' for how everything should look.

Next week is time for spraypainting with Tamiya matt grey undercoat aerosol all the plastic and metal kit parts for the scenic items I've amassed. Then I will begin mass painting, one colour at a time.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: johnlambert on July 03, 2014, 01:27:29 pm
Sorry to hear about the cold, hope you make a swift recovery.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 03, 2014, 01:40:05 pm
Sorry to hear about the cold, hope you make a swift recovery.

Thanks, John. I now have a set of standard dimensions for doors so that I can check that I have correctly rescaled plans to N Scale: Door Height: 15mm, Door Width: 6mm. Door steps: 1mm Height, 8mm Length. Lintel: 2mm Height, 8mm Length. Fanlight over door (where applicable): 1.5mm Height, 6mm Length. However, for some buildings, door heights could be reduced to as little as 12mm or, even less for medieval buildings!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 03, 2014, 08:38:41 pm
What exactly are these medieval buildings ??
I guess they are old barns  etc
Hope your cold gets better soon.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 03, 2014, 09:23:34 pm
What exactly are these medieval buildings ??
I guess they are old barns  etc
Hope your cold gets better soon.

Thanks, Martin. It's got to the annoying cough stage. I meant those half-timbered houses and medieval stone-built castles etc. where I have to duck my head going through doorways. (I'm not planning to build any for Cant Cove.) I read that station doors were built so that a gentleman could walk through without removing his top hat!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: newportnobby on July 03, 2014, 09:31:43 pm

 I read that station doors were built so that a gentleman could walk through without removing his top hat!

Any gentleman knows that his hat should be removed before entering a room ::) :P ;)
Hope you're feeling better soon, Chris :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 03, 2014, 09:47:56 pm
Thanks, NewportNobby but in order for the gentleman to remove his hat as he entered and left the room he would have to be able to pass through the doorway with his hat on! 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Bob Wild on July 03, 2014, 10:54:09 pm
Up t'north all gentlemen wear cloth caps.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 04, 2014, 08:30:42 am
Up t'north all gentlemen wear cloth caps.

AS do I, albeit a Marks & Spencers one, except in the summer when it would be too hot!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 06, 2014, 09:12:27 pm
I have spent the day sitting in my friends' summerhouse I helped to build (I did all the 'painting' with wood seal of the timbers), washing all my model railway kit bits and figures in warm soapy water, leaving them to dry, then returning them to their plastic bags,  prior to spraying them with Tamiya Grey undercoat, tomorrow. However, I still have a few more kits to wash, in the morning, before I can start spray painting! (I brought plenty of clean transparent plastic boxes to place over the painted items to keep dust, insects, etc. off) It would have been quite difficult to do all of this in my little flat!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chetcombe on July 07, 2014, 12:44:30 am
Thanks, NewportNobby but in order for the gentleman to remove his hat as he entered and left the room he would have to be able to pass through the doorway with his hat on! 8-)


Better not use these hats or your doors might end up a tad over scale :dunce:
 (A bit like the doors on a Metcalfe kit :-X )
http://youtu.be/ZgJTY3cfqvY (http://youtu.be/ZgJTY3cfqvY)

This ad has been playing at pretty much every break during our US World Cup coverage...
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 07, 2014, 09:35:37 am
Good grief, Mike. Now THAT would result in grossly over scale door heights!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 07, 2014, 09:40:46 am
Another sunny calm day. Time, soon, to finish washing in warm water the remaining kit parts prior to spray painting with Tamiya grey undercoat! Very therapeutic not to have to use my brain! 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 07, 2014, 07:20:58 pm
The first time I have spray painted anything; three lessons: 1) small can of Tamiya aerosol undercoat paint does not go a long way. 2) Spray painting something with only faint details (some plastic rough stone sheets) too enthusiastically results in loss of detail. I hope I can remove some of the excess coating. Other spraypainted items came up well; especially the Atlas oblong girder bridge which I may leave in matt grey and just weather? 3) even outdoors wearing a facemask is advisable.

Now, I'm hoping that the local Tesco megastore will have matt aerosol grey or white paint in stock in the car maintenance section so that I can undercoat all the other items painstakingly washed. However, although the shade of undercoat grey is unlikely to match I'm hoping that the application of the top coat of 'granite grey' (assuming I can find a suitable shade in sufficient quantity) on all items will resolve that problem.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: CarriageShed on July 07, 2014, 08:50:15 pm
The first time I have spray painted anything; three lessons: 1) small can of Tamiya aerosol undercoat paint does not go a long way. 2) Spray painting something with only faint details (some plastic rough stone sheets) too enthusiastically results in loss of detail. I hope I can remove some of the excess coating. Other spraypainted items came up well; especially the Atlas oblong girder bridge which I may leave in matt grey and just weather? 3) even outdoors wearing a facemask is advisable.

:D

I did my first spray undercoating back in January or February, in a custom-made cardboard box 'studio' in the utility room in my house. It seemed to go okay, and the few tiny gaps were filled with a bit of acrylic undercoat. The real trick is to get that side-to-side spray just right so that you don't swamp the item with paint!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 07, 2014, 09:14:15 pm
Yes, Pete. The problems were due to me not spraying from side to side all the time when the first spray over did not seem to be covering well. Still i hope I can remove the extra paint with a cloth soaked in thinners, tomorrow. All good experience. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 09, 2014, 06:28:15 pm
The 'oversprayed' areas don't look too bad on most of the various moulded plastic sheets so, for now, I'll leave them as they are. It's only undercoat after all. If, after the top coat the detail does not seem prominent enough it'll be out with a rag and plenty of thinners!

Alas, the weather has totally changed: cool, overcast, and plenty of rain, today. However, a trip to the local Tesco hypermarket produced (with much else) two aerosol cans of matt grey acrylic car paint undercoat that I'm eager to try out so I sprayed a few test pieces, this evening. However, once again, I'm finding I use an awful lot of paint! Even spraying side to side.

The revised baseboard for Cant Cove should be delivered, by my landlord, at the end of this week. After checking my bank account, it will be time to order the Peco Code 55 track and remaining points. Meanwhile, next week, I hope to get started on constructing the buildings after all the undercoat spraypainting. Some more rough stone and concrete platform edge pieces should also be arriving. However, another trip to the model shop for more paints will be required plus a trip to another, recommended, Prague model shop I've yet to visit to buy more modelmaker's materials like balsa wood. I also need some big pots of glue for the insulation board layers and the grass sheets.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jonclox on July 09, 2014, 07:23:49 pm
The 'oversprayed' areas don't look too bad on most of the various moulded plastic sheets so, for now, I'll leave them as they are. It's only undercoat after all. If, after the top coat the detail does not seem prominent enough it'll be out with a rag and plenty of thinners!

 I also need some big pots of glue for the insulation board layers and the grass sheets.
Lots of thinners on plastic=   wet, soft, sticky ruined plastic.
Best bulk glue is PVA, available in a wide variety of shops
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 09, 2014, 07:29:19 pm
Many thanks for the warning, John, re: thinners and PVA glue. I'll experiment on some scrap plastic, first, with removing excess paint with thinners.

I think the Prague modelmaker's supplies shop (a friend of a friend makes architect's models and passed on the recommendation) will either have suitable glue or can tell me what brand of PVA to buy in a DIY store.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 10, 2014, 08:44:33 pm
After using up the two cans of acrylic off-white (it says grey on the cans but it isn't) I have most of the plastic kit parts, etc. undercoated and drying overnight on the floor of the car porch. I think I'll buy two more cans as there are still some items left and more at home. The fumes seem to be less strong than the Tamiya aerosol grey undercoat paint and, in the warm weather, here, the acrylic paint dries almost as quickly as the far more expensive Tamiya paint does. So, I'm pretty pleased, so far. Maybe a couple of items got oversprayed in a few places but this can be remedied I think without excessive use of thinners.

On my return, I think I will see if I can buy some 'granite grey' spray paint (maybe Wehrmacht grey?) from the plastic kit shop as I have a lot of buildings that will be built from dark stone. The granite grey will then be overpainted with different coloured stones (I have colour pictures of Bodmin General station building as a guide) then carefully weathered with drybrushed matt black after the mortar has been added with runny dirty white paint. Next will be the problem of mixing my own approximation for BR SR Green and Cream.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 10, 2014, 09:08:22 pm
Hopefully you can get get a good approximation of LSWR green/cream. I will face the same problem with Trepol Bay. If you go for a slightly weathered approach, I feel that the green/cream doesn't need to be too exact as it will end up somewhat off colour with grime.
Being a volunteer at the Bodmin & Wenford Railway, I know that they experimented with the green(in particular)/cream (particularly for Boscarne Junction) to get the correct colour.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 10, 2014, 09:25:00 pm
Thanks, Martin, that's good to know. I'm planning to add some matt white to my attempt at BR SR Green and Cream as colours in N Scale need to be lighter anyway. The station buildings will be freshly painted ready for the summer season but the goods shed and loco shed I'm planning to look more weathered, particularly the loco. shed as it is supposed to be ex-BR and used by the local preservation society who have not had time to repaint it! So, that will be at least two batches of paint to be mixed up. I have a Humbrol cream but need to buy a suitable Humbrol gloss green from the plastic kit shop and a gloss yellow. I have Humbrol matt grey and matt black. I have tiny little plastic pots for mixing paint in ready, too.

My first kit-bashing 'job' will be converting Peco railbuilt bufferstops to approximations of LSWR and SR pattern ones by replacing the bufferbeams with plasticard ones as they are very distinctive. I will post the details for you and Christopher.

The Ratio engine shed will also be kit-bashed as will the coaling stage and water tank. The distinctive LSWR goods shed will be scratchbuilt.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 12, 2014, 11:06:50 am
Everything that I brought with me has now been spraypainted with undercoat and nearly everything dried very nicely. (Just a little paint left in the last of the four acrylic grey car undercoat spray cans bought locally.) After I return to Prague it will be time to paint the top coats of 'granite grey' for all the walls and 'slate grey' for all the roofs. Then it will be time for kit-building / kit-bashing / scratch-building with, I plan, plenty of pictures. after construction will come painting of random stone blocks in different colours, painting in mortar, then weathering.

To be built are:
Ratio Weighbridge and Office
Ratio Loco Shed -- to be adapted to look more like the one formerly at Bodmin General / St. Ives
Ratio Loco Servicing Depot --parts used to look like Bude Loco Shed's coaling platform
Ratio Cattle Pen -- parts used to look like typical NCR one
Ratio Water Tower -- parts used to look like typical stone-built NCR one, e.g. Halwill Jn.
Peco Platform Edging -- rough stone and concrete -- will need to be curved
Ratio Station Building Canopy -- to be adapted to look more like typical NCR one
Peco SR Concrete Platelayers' Hut
Peco SR Concrete Footbridge -- not brought so will be spraypainted in Prague
Ratio Coal Depot -- not brought so will be spraypainted in Prague
Peco SR Concrete Panel Walls and Gates -- not brought so will be spraypainted in Prague
To ensure the colours look the same for the platform edging (I had to order some more) I will buy another can of Tamiya grey undercoat.

Other items like bridges and tunnel mouths have all been spraypainted so I have a big choice. One pair of bridges will have to be adapted for the old mineral tramway bridge with a slope -- I have a picture of a suitable Cornish stone-built bridge.

I have plenty of granite walling sections ready.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: johnlambert on July 12, 2014, 11:31:57 am
Sounds like you've got plenty to do. :)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 12, 2014, 01:23:22 pm
Sounds like you've got plenty to do. :)

Yes, John, but I'm looking forward to doing it. I have about 5 free weeks and will be working on a 'production line' basis: one colour / process at a time for all the buildings which should save time and ensure colour consistency. (I hope.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: johnlambert on July 12, 2014, 02:29:27 pm
Sounds like a sensible approach.  Looking forward to seeing the results.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 12, 2014, 02:54:42 pm
Thanks, John. I aim to post as many pictures as possible to help others.

One stage I have yet to do, as I want to use Tamiya undercoat (I need to buy another can, in Prague) is all the delicate brass etchings. Two useful tips that I will follow (Cif I have):

I've found that it's best to give brass etches a good clean with a toothbrush and some Cif cleaner to get rid of any residual oils that would prevent good paint adhesion. (Trevor, Chinahand)

Then undercoat the windows with white or grey car primer -- obtainable in spray cans from Halfords or car accessory shops. If the windows are on a fret it's best to paint them before cutting them out, and then just touch up any edges once they are attached to the building.
(GerryB)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 12, 2014, 03:46:20 pm
Once I have found the right 'granite grey' paint paint for the main colour of all the embossed stone-built structures, carefully painted them with a very good quality brush and slightly thinned Humbrol enamel paint (if I cannot find a suitable aerosol paint) and they are all dry -- we should have warm weather, again, next week (it's now cool and very rainy) -- comes the time to paint the mortar. I've read, elsewhere on the forum, that the trick is to really thin the mortar paint and touch a small brush with it against each line of embossing -- capillary action should make the mortar colour run along the embossing (an extra touch of thinners will move it if it doesn't).

The next stage will be to add the different coloured stones and then dry brush with matt black to bring out the rough stone surface (I hope).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 12, 2014, 05:02:33 pm
I'm looking forward to seeing the painted results of all your endeavours.
I'm about to re-solder 2 wires to a point motor which became detached when taking the layout back upstairs after Lostwithiel show. A job I've been putting off !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Caz on July 12, 2014, 05:15:27 pm
My word Chris, you are a busy bee, looking forward to seeing it all come together.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 12, 2014, 06:05:16 pm
Thanks, Martin. I really enjoy painting and model making so am looking forward to making more progress, next week.

I have a DC controller and some locos which have yet to be sent for DCC conversion so once I have track laid I can run some trains (the 3-way point won't be fitted, at first, as I need to get and install something called a 'frog juicer', first!) However, the track will not be permanently fixed, let alone ballasted, at first. I will put track pins alongside the track to keep it in place. I need to have the track temporarily laid so that I can glue the sections of insulating board around (as well as under it) for the scenery.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 12, 2014, 06:08:02 pm
Thanks, Caz. Summer is the one time of the year when I can work for long periods of a time.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 12, 2014, 06:13:21 pm


I have a DC controller and some locos which have yet to be sent for DCC conversion so once I have track laid I can run some trains

Nothing like having a few trains running. It will serve as a BIG incentive to make progress.
My point motor is now rewired by the way so fully operational again.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 12, 2014, 06:25:56 pm
Glad you got your point motor rewired without any problems, Martin. As my outside crank Class 08 is already DCC fitted I will measure it up to make a gauging wagon to test clearances until I get my DCC controller.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 13, 2014, 06:28:45 pm
Safely back in Prague with two boxes of undercoated kit parts. Tomorrow should be a trip to at least one model shop to buy more Humbrol enamel paints (colours) and another aerosol of Tamiya matt grey (also dark grey if possible) to ensure colour consistency on some extra station platform parts that are in the post.

Following Martin (Port Perran's example) a P&D Marsh Cat. No. B66 N Gauge Chocolate / Weighing Machines & luggage was in my post box. These will also be undercoated and will join the production line! Should the weighing machines be gloss dark green and the chocolate machines bright red and navy blue?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 13, 2014, 06:36:19 pm
I went by memory on those. Weighing machines definitely red but I remember (albeit GW) choc machines being orange, hence the colour of mine but colours probably varied.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: johnlambert on July 13, 2014, 07:08:56 pm
Not sure I'd use gloss paint, Chris.  I think matt or satin paint looks better even on things that are supposed to look glossy.  But it is up to you, of course.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 14, 2014, 07:00:21 am
Thanks, Martin, John. I'll add some matt white to the pain to tone down the gloss. For some reason, I remember station weighing machines being a medium green. Red was Cadbury's Bourneville colour and Blue Cadbury's Dairy Milk but, again, my memory may be wrong.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Greybeema on July 14, 2014, 09:04:52 am
Matt paint into gloss paint will not result in a Matt finish (trust me - I tried).  Paint gloss then use a Matt varnish once dried. 

The white will fade the colour but consider also using light grey.  Do a test first though..

Dark washes can enhance shadows.  Dry brushing can be used to fade areas..

If you are using decals always have a gloss finish to put them onto then Matt afterwards.  This will prevent 'silvering' or the edge of the decal being seen...
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 14, 2014, 09:16:07 am
Thanks for those painting tips. I will buy some matt grey paint and experiment with using it as well as with matt white to 'tone down' colours. All my undercoats are either matt grey (Tamiya spray) or off-white (acrylic car spray).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 14, 2014, 01:08:36 pm
The baseboard with cover has just arrived and, with cover, just fits under the bed. The total cost is a very reasonable 12,000 Kc. (about £350). However, that is without any wiring (buses for power and lighting) and scenery (layers of insulation boards from a local DIY) for which I will go shopping with my landlord, next week. Fortunately, even after the large transfer to my U.K. bank account to buy the DCC controller (already part-paid as I had a credit note) plus 14 metres of Peco Code 55 track and the remaining three points -- these all from Hattons, my Czech bank account can just about stand these costs. :claphappy: And I still have my DCC-fitted Class 42 on sale and a spare non-DCC-fitted Class 22 to sell.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on July 14, 2014, 03:38:28 pm
Hopefully we'll see some track soon then Chris  :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 14, 2014, 04:08:47 pm
Hopefully we'll see some track soon then Chris  :D

Thanks; as soon as the money has been confirmed transferred my order for the track and points will go off to Hattons. So, in about two-three weeks from now I should be able to lay the track and points (at least partly and temporarily so that i can fit the insulation boards under and around it.  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 17, 2014, 02:01:17 pm
I have been informed that Games Workshops Warpstone Glow paint is a good match for SR Green as that should be possible to buy here, or by post from next-door Germany. However, yesterday, I bought various Humbrol gloss green paints along with gloss yellow and white and am going to try to mix my own version (I have colour photos to help). For SR cream I bought some standard Humbrol gloss cream which i will try; again, I may try mixing in some gloss yellow and / or white,

I'm still busy mass painting (colour by colour) but, yesterday, ordered the track and 3 remaining points from Hattons. For less than an extra £1 they are coming by DHL so they may be here by the end of the week if not early next. I really need the track (at least roughly placed) so that I can place the scenic blocks (insulating 'slabs') in place, next week.

Until I sell my last 3 spare locos. (3rd Class 22, 3rd Class 42, 5th 61XX), I will delay buying the DCC controller as I have a DC one and some non-DCC fitted locos., here.

I also have up to 7 spare wagons that I will sell.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 17, 2014, 03:22:43 pm
Track laying is getting nearer and nearer. Looking forward to seeing a start being made.
I know you have shown plans etc on here but there's nothing like seeing it for real as it were.
I'm off to B&Q on Saturday to buy the timber for the baseboard etc for Trepol Bay. Looking to make a gentle start over the coming weeks.  I had a call from the organiser of a model rail show in Camborne wanting me to show Trepol Bay on July 4th next year so I have an incentive to crack on !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on July 17, 2014, 04:36:05 pm
I will delay buying the DCC controller as I have a DC one and some non-DCC fitted locos., here.

If they've been set up right, DCC chipped locos will run on DC - all mine do...
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 17, 2014, 05:02:46 pm
Thanks, Martin. Delighted you're about to start on Trepol Bay. A year should be long enough to get it ready? I look forward to watching the progress.

I've not posted any pictures of kit parts drying but will do if people are interested. I will post pictures of the track when it arrives though!

i hope the next pictures will be of some of the fully completed buildings.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 17, 2014, 05:05:00 pm
I will delay buying the DCC controller as I have a DC one and some non-DCC fitted locos., here.

If they've been set up right, DCC chipped locos will run on DC - all mine do...

I know that, in theory, DCC chipped locos will run on DC (certainly the ones converted by Wickness Models should) but I have read horror stories of DCC locos having their chips fried (or worse) on DC so am rather nervous to try that with ones bought DCC fitted. 8-(
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on July 17, 2014, 05:22:40 pm
I've got a variety of all sorts of chips in mine, and they are fine.
My class 14 runs on my very old DC controller but won't run on any club layouts.
I'm told it's because it has a tiny US chip that get confused by modern DC signals (which alternate) whereas my old controller uses a dead smooth signal
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 17, 2014, 08:28:06 pm
Thanks, Mike. I may risk running one of my DCC locos then. (I have an old -- maybe 20 yo? -- Graham Farish 'trainset' controller.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 17, 2014, 10:57:23 pm
Another afternoon and evening painting one colour after another on every kit item. The 'wood' brown has come out semi-gloss so I may try dry-brushing with matt light grey. Once all the basic colours have been done I'm going to try dry-brushing with matt black on some items, too.

Tomorrow, I'm going to try painting 'concrete' on my SR footbridge, wall sections and platelayers' huts.

I still need a slate grey for roof tiles.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Michiel on July 18, 2014, 08:36:46 am
Great to read you are actually constructing, building and painting kits. It's nice to read what you are doing, but call me curious. I really like to see some picture of how it turned out to be. ...something about one picture and a thousand words?...  ;)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 18, 2014, 08:54:02 am
Thanks, Michiel. I haven't started gluing anything together, yet. But I do have some pewter models and plastic bridges and plastic huts bought ready made that I have painted that I can photograph. However, none have been completed with all colours then weathered and one of the 'steel' bridges needs repairs. The bought kits (mainly Ratio plastic ones) are all still in the stages of being painted: one colour at a time. With so many items to paint this is a long process.

One problem I have is deciding the 'stone colour' I will use for the Ratio plastic kits; I'm thinking of a light to medium grey. Today, I will also try out a dirty cream (over grey undercoat) for the characteristic Southern Railway concrete buildings. (I do have colour photos but, as you know, a picture is not the same as seeing the object in real life; plus, in N Scale colours have to be lightened.)

However, once all painting has been completed, construction of the Ratio plastic kits should proceed quite quickly. Although most of the kits will be adapted / altered most of the adaptions are simple. Only the loco shed will be substantially altered.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Michiel on July 18, 2014, 09:34:35 am
Perhaps I'm even more interested in HOW one does it, then the finished product. Of course I like to see what you have done, and the final glorious picture. But like you, I'm also interested in the techniques you use, the methods tried... So these pictures of the in-between works are very welcome, as I post them in my thread. I like to learn, see what goes and what not, and use what proves to be useful. So, let's share! ;)

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 18, 2014, 03:38:38 pm
Hi Michiel, thanks for your message. Yes, good point. I have taken some pictures and will be posting progress pictures with explanations of painting particular items.  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 18, 2014, 04:20:14 pm
The DHL man has just arrived with my 14 metres of track and the three remaining points I needed.  :claphappy: (Actually, two are needed but, for the engine shed siding I need to try whether a short or medium radius point will look best.) Next week, I will try to layout the track on the baseboard. Pictures to follow. This weekend, I have more painting to do plus some academic and client work. I will post some pictures of the items being painted with comments, as requested.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: lionwing on July 18, 2014, 05:15:09 pm
Looking forward to seeing the photos!

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on July 18, 2014, 08:24:48 pm
Looking forward to seeing the photos!

Me too mate, the build up and the anticipation has got me dribbling  :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 06:53:44 am
Temperatures climbed on Friday to above 30 degrees Celsius in many parts of the Czech Republic with even hotter weather and temperatures of up to 33 degrees Celsius expected on Saturday. The hot weather is expected to break on Monday night when heavy storms are predicted. So, excellent weather for painting!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Caz on July 19, 2014, 09:14:55 am
Got similar temperatures here Chris so I know what it is like, we are expecting 37-38 in the week.  It is the only time of year I don't like living here, as soon as the middle of July arrives the temperatures shoot up and stay that way until the end of August, oh for a shower of cool rain.  :)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 09:19:32 am
Normally, 28-30, is as high as it gets, here, Caz. Still, paint dries VERy quickly in such temperatures which is very helpful.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 09:32:28 am
Cant Cove station buildings -- paper templates:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-06-12092104_zps9a887660.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-06-12092104_zps9a887660.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 09:45:15 am
Boxes still containing some items

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-19073913_zpse81acec1.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-19073913_zpse81acec1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 09:47:43 am
N Scale US Army Jeep -- part painted

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-19073726_zps3ff605af.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-19073726_zps3ff605af.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 09:49:47 am
N Scale US Army Jeep 2 -- part painted

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-19073637_zpsaeb16978.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-19073637_zpsaeb16978.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 09:50:46 am
Painting under way, in Prague:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-19073315_zpsc1b7f225.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-19073315_zpsc1b7f225.jpg.html)

At the bottom you can see most of the SR concrete items part painted.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 09:53:21 am
Painting under way, in Prague 2

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-19073131_zpse9dd1dca.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-19073131_zpse9dd1dca.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 09:54:47 am
Detail of Wadebridge Goods Shed and part of SR Concrete Footbridge - early 1960s (colours probably rather lighter than in real life)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-WadebridgeGoodsShedampConcreteFootbridge-COLOUR_zps5ef25c79.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-WadebridgeGoodsShedampConcreteFootbridge-COLOUR_zps5ef25c79.jpg.html)

Some SR concrete lamp posts in N Scale would be very nice. 3D printing?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 09:55:51 am
1961 SR Concrete Footbridge demolished 2013

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-1961SRConcreteFootbridgeatCharingKentdemolished2013_zpsdbffe837.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-1961SRConcreteFootbridgeatCharingKentdemolished2013_zpsdbffe837.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 09:57:08 am
Bere Alston SR Concrete Footbridge and Platform edge 1970s

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-BereAlston-ConcreteFootbridgeandPlatformEdge_zps1ddd81b6.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-BereAlston-ConcreteFootbridgeandPlatformEdge_zps1ddd81b6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 09:58:14 am
Peco Barrel Wagonload after matt black painted:
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-18161254_zps9f4b5672.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-18161254_zps9f4b5672.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 09:59:03 am
Lightly weathered Peco Buffer Stop

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-18161031_zps2a38f20d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-18161031_zps2a38f20d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 09:59:57 am
Lightly Weathered Girder Bridge side:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-18135433_zpsc8fd8e2e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-18135433_zpsc8fd8e2e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 10:00:54 am
Girder Bridge from above - painting incomplete:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-18135423_zpsb63949e7.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-18135423_zpsb63949e7.jpg.html)
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Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 10:01:44 am
Lightly Weathered Girder Bridge - other side:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-18135415_zps510872c4.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-18135415_zps510872c4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 10:03:00 am
Peco Buffer Stops - Painted - NOT weathered yet:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-18135345_zpsaf416721.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-18135345_zpsaf416721.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 10:04:18 am
Ratio Coal Depot bunkers -- wood incompletely painted:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-18135335_zps62a1d0c5.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-18135335_zps62a1d0c5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 10:05:16 am
Boat Dock -- NOT weathered yet:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-18135321_zpsba75fc84.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-18135321_zpsba75fc84.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 10:06:27 am
3D-printed (?) motor launch BEFORE filling used:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-18135303_zps14abd326.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-18135303_zps14abd326.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 10:07:27 am
Painting under way, in Prague, 3:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-18135220_zpsc1a4b5f3.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-18135220_zpsc1a4b5f3.jpg.html)
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Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 10:08:27 am
After spray painting with Tamiya Grey undercoat:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-16180807_zps129614b9.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-16180807_zps129614b9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 10:09:53 am
First items spray painted with Tamiya Grey undercoat, in friends' garden:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-07155607_zps8fe30317.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-07155607_zps8fe30317.jpg.html)
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Post by: scotsoft on July 19, 2014, 10:11:51 am
Peco Buffer Stops - Painted - NOT weathered yet:

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-18135345_zpsaf416721.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-18135345_zpsaf416721.jpg.html[/url])


This picture reminds me of an airport  :sorrysign:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 10:17:33 am
Some Notes on Painting SR Concrete Buildings:

Looking at photos, the SR Concrete PWay hut it is much more creamy/yellow than the weathered concrete which is much greyer. Having painted my huts a creamy yellow, I will try a thin wash in the lighter colour. (I know it's the wrong way round). Alas, the 'thin wash' was too strong.

Notice the difference in the colour photos between the SR concrete platform edging and the footbridge and how the concrete footbridges seem to darken in colour with age?

I will post more photos of my SR concrete platform edging (some for Christopher), footbridges (one is for Christopher) and huts, later. One footbridge (Cant Cove's) came out worse than the other so out will come the very fine sandpaper on one sand and repainting, later.

Now, I must get back to painting!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 10:18:54 am
Yes, those grey undercoat sprues are lined up like planes. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Western Exile on July 19, 2014, 10:21:04 am
Indeed they do. As I was scrolling through the pictures my daughter said, " look, there's an aeroplane!"  ::)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: johnlambert on July 19, 2014, 11:17:16 am
Wow, those photos show just how busy you've been!

The station mock-up looks good, can't wait to see the actual building.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Caz on July 19, 2014, 12:22:54 pm
Lightly Weathered Girder Bridge - other side:

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-18135415_zps510872c4.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-18135415_zps510872c4.jpg.html[/url])


What make is this Chris?
 :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 19, 2014, 01:01:52 pm
You have certainly been busy !
My only point, I think those N Scale planes are a tad too small :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 01:59:16 pm
Lightly Weathered Girder Bridge - other side:

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-18135415_zps510872c4.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-18135415_zps510872c4.jpg.html[/url])


What make is this Chris?
 :thankyousign:


Hi Caz,

It's Atlas, made in the USA, bought on eBay, last year. It's one of the two alternatives for the bridge over the inlet to Cant Cove from the River Camel.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 06:35:55 pm
More painting completed: basic light stone colour for all stone-built structures including the loco shed (which I'm thinking might need to be lengthened slightly). I also tried mixing my own SR gloss green for the station running in boards, benches, trolleys and doors and windows on huts. I think the colour is OK but the paint was very runny and is taking a long time (even in this heat) to fully dry. It will also need several coats for the running in boards, benches. It's come nice and faded though for the loco shed doors painted over the grey undercoat.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 07:07:28 pm
An attempt at SR Gloss Green (the large splodge is where I knocked over the mixing container):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-19192649_zpsd2157bbd.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-19192649_zpsd2157bbd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 07:08:56 pm
Loco shed walls in light grey stone:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-19192710_zpsbd4c000e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-19192710_zpsbd4c000e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 07:10:47 pm
To be 'converted' (removal of existing text) into a BR ex-LNER Toad brake van as used at Wadebridge:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-MODEL-NGAUGEPECONR-49E-NE20TONGUARDSVAN_zps058ba14f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-MODEL-NGAUGEPECONR-49E-NE20TONGUARDSVAN_zps058ba14f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 19, 2014, 07:58:07 pm
I think that SR green isn't far off. Perhaps a very tiny bit too dark but it is a job to tell.
Certainly not far enough away from reality to worry.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 20, 2014, 07:12:46 am
Thanks, Martin. It's a mix of (mostly) Humbrol Enamel Gloss 3 with some Gloss 38 to lighten it. I think the result is close enough, judging by colour photographs and what I remember from the Mid-Hants Railway. It may be TOO glossy though, even for a freshly repainted station so I may buy some matt varnish and try a very thin coat of that?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 20, 2014, 07:35:28 am
I thought I'd move the trackplan with visualisation here so that people can compare it with the rough track layout that I plan to do, on the baseboard, next week (you will see my surveyors, track crew and construction vehicles all in attendance!):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-MODEL-CantCoveTrackampSceneryPlan_zps2a098b94.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-MODEL-CantCoveTrackampSceneryPlan_zps2a098b94.jpg.html)

There may be a slight change; the fourth siding into the fiddleyard depends on the remaining clearance under the sloping down to the station and sea, hillside behind Cant Cove. Until I buy the scenic sections (insulation boards) and cut and lay them out I don't know the exact relative heights.

The central support running lengthwise was found not to be necessary.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chetcombe on July 20, 2014, 06:47:59 pm
It is a great plan Chris. Remind me of the story behind the decaying wooden loading stage. I assume it comes down the hillside from somewhere, crosses above the railway to end at the river...
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 20, 2014, 09:06:33 pm
Hi Mike, the decaying wooden loading stage was once part of an old mineral tramway with stone block sleepers that came down and through (via a cutting) the hillside from a quarry (off stage) and crosses above the railway on a sloping stone-built bridge (I have a photo of a suitable Cornish stone slanting overbridge) to end at the river where sailing ships once tied up at high tide to (carefully) take on the tipped stones. The tramway was, later, replaced by a branch off the Castle Estates branch once that branch and the line from Wadebridge to Cant Cove opened (later extended through Cant Hill to terminate at Penmayne). I thought such an overgrown tramway would make a nice scenic break. The nearby "Tramway Inn" used to cater to the tramway workers and sailing ship crews.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 20, 2014, 09:17:13 pm
"In N the SECR birdcage stock previously announced in 00 will be added to the Graham Farish range." I have a picture of a Birdcage Brake end coach in departmental stock at Wadebridge so I think I'll buying one of those and respraying it in BR departmental crimson, next year! 8-)

"The SR PLV 4-wheel van [I have a BR SR Green and a BR Blue one on order] is still with the development team before entering the drawing office, along with the following:  GWR Castle Class 4-6-0 [I will stick with my remaining two old ones] . . . and the GWR [BR WR, Hawksworth] Auto Trailer [I have one on order for my 14XX].

The SR Bogie B luggage van [I have a BR SR Green and a BR Blue one on order] along with the GWR Hawksworth coaches have progressed to the tool room whilst the BR Standard 4MT (80xxx) 2-6-4T [I will stick with my remaining three old ones] and GWR 64xx [I will resist] are still in the drawing office.

The Graham Farish N Class and 3rd series Merchant Navy [too heavy for North Cornwall] now moving to livery artwork stage.
Engineering Prototype  samples have been received for the SR Ventilated vans whilst the SR N Class 2-6-0 and SR Merchant Navy Class 4-6-2 are now at the artwork preparation stage."

SOURCE: http://grahammuz.com/ (http://grahammuz.com/)

So, plenty of N Gauge SR and WR 'goodies' coming!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 20, 2014, 09:29:23 pm
"Heavy thunderstorms to snap heat wave

The heatwave that has lasted over the last several days in the Czech Republic will be snapped on Monday with the coming of heavy thunderstorms across the country, meteorologists have warned. Bohemia is expected to be hit by storms on Monday morning. Warnings for Prague and elsewhere are in place between 9 AM and 8 PM. [Hmm, I need to visit the model shop to buy some more Humbrol thinner and a couple of tins of paint I don't have.] Public pools and swimming areas saw major interest this weekend as temperatures rose well above 30 degrees Celsius."
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: CarriageShed on July 20, 2014, 11:01:50 pm
"Heavy thunderstorms to snap heat wave

The heatwave that has lasted over the last several days in the Czech Republic will be snapped on Monday with the coming of heavy thunderstorms across the country, meteorologists have warned. Bohemia is expected to be hit by storms on Monday morning. Warnings for Prague and elsewhere are in place between 9 AM and 8 PM. [Hmm, I need to visit the model shop to buy some more Humbrol thinner and a couple of tins of paint I don't have.] Public pools and swimming areas saw major interest this weekend as temperatures rose well above 30 degrees Celsius."

With my historian hat on it's interesting to note that the Bohemia name is still in use. I thought it had fallen out of use early last century. Is 'Moravia' still used too?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 21, 2014, 05:40:22 am
"Heavy thunderstorms to snap heat wave

The heatwave that has lasted over the last several days in the Czech Republic will be snapped on Monday with the coming of heavy thunderstorms across the country, meteorologists have warned. Bohemia is expected to be hit by storms on Monday morning. Warnings for Prague and elsewhere are in place between 9 AM and 8 PM. [Hmm, I need to visit the model shop to buy some more Humbrol thinner and a couple of tins of paint I don't have.] Public pools and swimming areas saw major interest this weekend as temperatures rose well above 30 degrees Celsius."

With my historian hat on it's interesting to note that the Bohemia name is still in use. I thought it had fallen out of use early last century. Is 'Moravia' still used too?

Hi Pete, as a fellow historian, yes the ancient names of Bohemia, Moravia, and Silesia (only a very small part around Ostrava is left in the Czech Republic of today), are still very much used in their local equivalents. Bohemians, Moravians and Silesians do see themselves as having distinct identities and characteristics.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 21, 2014, 05:42:46 am
Some mild, distant rumblings of thunder and a light shower of rain, this morning so far, only. If the weather worsens, I'll start marking out the baseboard with a grid to help position where the scenic areas and track should go.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: mika on July 21, 2014, 10:42:29 am
Chris,

very good progress. I like the idea of painting one colour at a time.
Hope you get a good deal done until the new semester starts.

All the best
Michael
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 21, 2014, 10:57:26 am
Thanks, Michael. It makes a lot of sense to paint colour by colour. It saves time and thinner!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 21, 2014, 10:59:24 am
Incredibly humid but safely made the trip to the model shop to stock up with more paints (not all of the ones I wanted are still in production), matt varnish, more thinner and a good sharp, pointed craft knife with an ergonomic (I hope) handle.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: mika on July 21, 2014, 01:05:36 pm
Thanks, Michael. It makes a lot of sense to paint colour by colour. It saves time and thinner!

I thought as much, it just never occured to me. Then again, my layout plans have never been as thouroughly planned as yours and I added buildings as I found them...
Perhaps fomy next project... :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: CarriageShed on July 21, 2014, 03:54:29 pm
Hi Pete, as a fellow historian, yes the ancient names of Bohemia, Moravia, and Silesia (only a very small part around Ostrava is left in the Czech Republic of today), are still very much used in their local equivalents. Bohemians, Moravians and Silesians do see themselves as having distinct identities and characteristics.

I hadn't realised that Czechia laid claim to part of Silesia as well. Of course, the Bohemians certainly to have a distinct identity (and probably the Moravians too). The very name is Celtic, and with a good deal of early Germanic influence too. I might have to get you to update the relevant History Files page for the modern Czech/Slovak region ;)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 21, 2014, 07:28:21 pm
OK, Pete, but in a PM, please, as it is far from the topic of Cant Cove. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 21, 2014, 07:33:15 pm
Painting continues . . . Today's new colour wa sthe closest I could find to dark slate grey for all the roofs and tile sheets. May have to be dry brushed with a lighter grey?

The basic light grey stone colour continues. (1st tin of 3, even with thinners, nearly all gone.) I now realise that I should have bought three not two pots of thinners, today as the 1st is half-used already. 8-(

Finally, reasonably happy with the painting of my station running in boards with my ersatz BR SR Green. I will post pictures, tomorrow. Soon it will be time to order the CANT COVE station name 'stickers'.

After a brief thunderstorm, rain and a drop in temperatures, this evening. Tomorrow, I hope for an uninterrupted day of painting!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 21, 2014, 08:18:36 pm
I still have the stone-built station building and goods shed to scratchbuild in plastic for Cant Cove; I do have the scale plans though and the rough stone plastic sheets and tile sheets plus a station canopy kit to adapt. I also have the stone and concrete platform edging sections painted and ready. Not to mention the SR concrete wall panels and footbridge. However, for the LSWR Type 4 signalbox I will be able to use a few parts (the wooden stairs and handrails, at least) from the Kestrel "N" Kit GMKD12 Small Signal Box kit which arrived, today. (I already have one of my Ratio signalbox interior kits part painted to be adapted to fit in it.) So, I may build the station signal box first.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 21, 2014, 08:31:02 pm
Looking forward to the pictures Chris.
Could you not print the names for your station running in boards yourself ?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 21, 2014, 08:40:44 pm
Model Signs will supply N GAUGE CUSTOM REGIONAL TOTEMS & STATION NAMEBOARDS, Martin, as a set. I will need two sets for both platforms: £7.98 in total. Otherwise, normally, yes, I could print the station running in board nameplates, myself. (However, my HP printer has died so I cannot. Rather than buy a new one, now, I'm waiting until semester starts as I'll have no time for model-making then, whereas now, I want to spend all I can on getting Cant Cove well under way, this month.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 21, 2014, 08:56:11 pm
I was already going to adapt the Ratio loco shed to look more like the ones at Bodmin General / St. Ives which includes not using the second entrance and doors, etc. which come with the kit but adding a solid stone end wall and adding a side building for a small repairs workshop and an office (built from plastic sheets I have ready painted) but the shed sides seem too short so, now I'm thinking of buying a second kit and cutting the walls in half and adding them to increase the shed's length. That would leave 50% over for someone else to extend their loco shed, too?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 22, 2014, 02:36:18 pm
I have just ordered a second Ratio 203 Single Road Engine Shed (Plastic Kit) N Gauge to cannibalise to extend my existing kit by at least about half a length (enough to house a 45XX / 55XX 2-6-2T or, maybe, two 57XX 0-6-0PTs or two Class 03 / 04s). The exact length will depend on the space available on the layout.

The kit was despatched, today. With luck, it should be here by the end of next wek so that I can get started on assembling / altering it.  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 22, 2014, 09:56:24 pm
OK; the first of the promised photos for today. Here you can see the items painted with my ersatz SR Green (the Southern Region used the standard BR cream as a base with a green shade that was exactly the same as the SR Middle Chrome Green (Precision P93 SR Middle Chrome Green); the paint continued to be supplied by the same manufacturer and the specification did not change.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-22071039_zpsf56c2e59.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-22071039_zpsf56c2e59.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 22, 2014, 10:05:43 pm
A close-up of the station running in boards:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-22071048_zpse6b05b29.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-22071048_zpse6b05b29.jpg.html)

The paint was rather problematic: taking a long time to dry and needing many coats. I'm still not 100% happy but with the printed CANT COVE station signs I think they'll be OK.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 22, 2014, 10:10:15 pm
A close-up of the station benches. Same problems with the paint and a final slight touch-up of the paint is required.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-22071111_zps5edcf07c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-22071111_zps5edcf07c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 22, 2014, 10:13:01 pm
This small hut was bought, ready-assembled (not very well) and unpainted as part of a job lot on eBay. This is it almost completed as far as painting goes. I'll post another picture, tomorrow.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-22071221_zpsb4a6af27.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-22071221_zpsb4a6af27.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 22, 2014, 10:15:37 pm
This is part of a kit-built (again, not very well) girder bridge; again, bought as part of a job lot on eBay and unpainted. You can see that part is missing in the bottom left-hand corner.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-22083003_zps2bc1c2a8.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-22083003_zps2bc1c2a8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 22, 2014, 10:18:31 pm
This is the same part with double-layer plasticard sections added to replace the missing ones. However, although they are not quite thick enough I think painted and in place, this side not facing the front of the layout, this will not matter. (The bridge was 'cleaned up' with files and sandpaper before these photos. were taken and, again, after this photo was taken once the glue had set.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-22101215_zps863dfd16.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-22101215_zps863dfd16.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 22, 2014, 10:21:52 pm
This is the rest of the bridge after a plasticard 'deck' had been added (but before it was painted and a few 'touch-ups' of paint) as I thought it more realistic to have a deck for the ballasted track to rest on.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-22183145_zps5ae8812b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-22183145_zps5ae8812b.jpg.html)

This is the second, and more likely, candidate for the rail bridge over the inlet to Cant Cove.

After positioning my outside cranks Class 08 on a piece of track on the bridge, I realise that the track will need to be raised to allow the moving cranks to clear the walkways parallel to the track. Some strips of cardboard with plasticard edging should do the trick. (Pictures to follow.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 23, 2014, 01:24:28 pm
Bodmin Road to Boscarne Junction (GWR) was upgraded to take GWR 43XXs as a diversionary route in WW2, so a 43XX / 63XX has been on my 'want list'. Today, I read that DJ Models have announced a Churchward 63xx 2-6-0 GWR Mogul in N. It will replace one of my 61XX for taking over from larger GWR locos., the WR summer timetable through trains from Bodmin Road to Penmayne.

SOURCE: grahammuz.com/2014/07/23/dj-models-announce-class-71-in-00/
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 23, 2014, 04:19:42 pm
Bodmin Road to Boscarne Junction (GWR) was upgraded to take GWR 43XXs as a diversionary route in WW2, so a 43XX / 63XX has been on my 'want list'. Today, I read that DJ Models have announced a Churchward 63xx 2-6-0 GWR Mogul in N. It will replace one of my 61XX for taking over from larger GWR locos., the WR summer timetable through trains from Bodmin Road to Penmayne.
One will be on order for me too no doubt
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 23, 2014, 05:15:25 pm
Bodmin Road to Boscarne Junction (GWR) was upgraded to take GWR 43XXs as a diversionary route in WW2, so a 43XX / 63XX has been on my 'want list'. Today, I read that DJ Models have announced a Churchward 63xx 2-6-0 GWR Mogul in N. It will replace one of my 61XX for taking over from larger GWR locos., the WR summer timetable through trains from Bodmin Road to Penmayne.
One will be on order for me too no doubt
I was pretty certain that you'd want one, too, Martin.

Now all I need is a Peco Collett 0-6-0 to be renumbered as Exmouth Junction's WR pet, 3205!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 23, 2014, 08:02:36 pm
My outside crank BR Blue Class 08 being used for gauging trials on the girder bridge as originally designed:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-23135539_zpsc078a49c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-23135539_zpsc078a49c.jpg.html)

The cranks would have hit the side walkways. 8-(
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 23, 2014, 08:05:05 pm
My outside crank BR Blue Class 08 being used for gauging trials on the Atlas plate girder bridge as originally designed:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-23135719_zpsab848e74.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-23135719_zpsab848e74.jpg.html)

No problem here as the track is higher than the side walkways. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 23, 2014, 08:09:12 pm
My outside crank BR Blue Class 08 being used for gauging trials on the girder bridge as subsequently modified with a central built-up section to raise the track above the level of the walkways:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-23171240_zps5cfcf0a8.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-23171240_zps5cfcf0a8.jpg.html)

Now, no problems; the Class 08 from Wadebridge, delivering empty china clay wagons from Wenfordbridge for the attention of the C&W fitter at Penmayne, can now safely pass through the bridge outside Cant Cove station.  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 23, 2014, 08:10:51 pm
Now, to glue back the repaired side-piece.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 23, 2014, 08:21:25 pm

[/quote]
I was pretty certain that you'd want one, too, Martin.

Now all I need is a Peco Collett 0-6-0 to be renumbered as Exmouth Junction's WR pet, 3205!
[/quote]

Those Peco 0-6-0s go for silly prices on Ebay I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 23, 2014, 08:23:51 pm

I was pretty certain that you'd want one, too, Martin.

Now all I need is a Peco Collett 0-6-0 to be renumbered as Exmouth Junction's WR pet, 3205!
[/quote]

Those Peco 0-6-0s go for silly prices on Ebay I'm afraid.
[/quote]

I know, Martin; I'll wait.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 23, 2014, 08:25:19 pm
It was a good idea to use that 08 for clearance tests. If that will pass through anything will.
One other thing to watch is with the Dapol panniers. Their detailing, being very low, will sometimes catch on small obstructions which other locos will miss.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 23, 2014, 08:29:08 pm
That's why I bought the Class 08 as I don't really need one having two Class 03s and two Class 04s! Thanks for the tip about the Dapol panniers, Martin. I have one (DCC-fitted and here) so it will also have to have a trial run, then, too, after the Class 08.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: newportnobby on July 23, 2014, 09:30:10 pm
Very neat repair on that girder bridge, Chris :thumbsup:
I can't really tell from the photo but now you have raised the track level to suit the 08, it looks taller than the bridge itself :hmmm:
Would that be the case?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 23, 2014, 10:04:44 pm
Very neat repair on that girder bridge, Chris :thumbsup:
I can't really tell from the photo but now you have raised the track level to suit the 08, it looks taller than the bridge itself :hmmm:
Would that be the case?

Thanks; it was a lot of work but, as the bridge will be at the front of the layout, I think it is worth it.

Alas, yes, trains will be slightly taller (the WR added new girders which involved raising the deck, as part of upgrading the line for 'Hymeks' to be used), now than the top of the girders which will stop me putting cross-pieces between the girders, now, I think. I have glued the missing side back to the bridge and left it it to 'set' overnight with a cardboard 'box' placed inbetween the two sides to hold it in place. Tomorrow, I will clean up the glue smears with a small file then repaint it. Before that, I'll take another photo(s) so that you can see the height of the Class 08 on the track in relation to the sides.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 24, 2014, 11:57:45 pm
Been busy adapting two double-track stone bridge sides into ones with slanting sides for carrying the abandoned mineral tramway over the mainline. I had to go out to buy a special saw for cutting the hard plastic pieces. Tamiya filler was then used to fill in the remaining gaps between the original bridge pieces and the embossed plasticard additions. Photos to follow tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:29:42 pm
Ensuring the repaired girder bridge side glues firmly in place:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-23233221_zps2bd2179f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-23233221_zps2bd2179f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:32:05 pm
The pieces for the first 4 LSWR-pattern bufferstop beams marked out on a sheet of 0.5mm polysytrene sheet (plasticard). (For more, see later.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-23235208_zps1ac61301.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-23235208_zps1ac61301.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:33:12 pm
The track arrives from Hattons, courtesy of DHL, late last week.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-24142016_zpsa73a7ee5.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-24142016_zpsa73a7ee5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:34:51 pm
14 metres of track. (I should only need about 11, so I have some to spare.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-24143409_zpsb3ac1b5b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-24143409_zpsb3ac1b5b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:35:54 pm
The Class 08 on the repaired girder bridge (1):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-24142103_zps37c0adde.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-24142103_zps37c0adde.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:38:11 pm
The Class 08 on the repaired girder bridge (2):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-24143454_zps9a96460b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-24143454_zps9a96460b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:40:45 pm
The Class 08 on the repaired girder bridge (3):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-24143507_zps2c3b62c9.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-24143507_zps2c3b62c9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:42:22 pm
The Class 08 on the repaired girder bridge (4):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-24143526_zpsfbcca957.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-24143526_zpsfbcca957.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:43:51 pm
The Class 08 with Bulleid BR SR Green SK on the repaired girder bridge:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-24143657_zps3c2851e4.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-24143657_zps3c2851e4.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:45:38 pm
The Class 08 with Kronenbourg Ferry Van (must be another wild garden party at Cant Castle!) and BR SR Pillbox Guard's Van on the repaired girder bridge:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-24143927_zpse584c533.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-24143927_zpse584c533.jpg.html)

The WR added extra supporting girders, which involved raising the track deck, to support higher axle-loadings so that 'Hymeks' can work through passenger trains to Paddington, in future (as they do / did to Bude). Fortunately, the increased depth of ballasting means that the tracks either side of Cant Cove bridge match the new track base height. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:47:41 pm
The sloping sides mineral tramway bridge sides with the original curved tops cut-off, below. (The mainline, built to broad gauge double-track spacing, will pass through below.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-25082938_zps6c09978e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-25082938_zps6c09978e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:48:42 pm
The reverse side of the tramway bridge sides:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-25082959_zpsa6df5ad1.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-25082959_zpsa6df5ad1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:50:31 pm
2 painted SR concrete footbridge kits (Cant Cove's is bottom right; the concrete has a slightly yellow tinge as a few truck loads of sand from Cant Cove were sent to the SR concrete works at Exmouth Junction to make the SR concrete 'fittings' for Cant Cove -- Lady Penelope of Cant Castle said that unrelieved grey was 'simply too dreary for words'!) and bridge piers needing filler:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-25092856_zpse51a4c69.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-25092856_zpse51a4c69.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:51:23 pm
Various huts painted:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-25093040_zpsbe50ff24.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-25093040_zpsbe50ff24.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:52:31 pm
Close-up of part assembled huts (1):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-25093057_zps97609aa4.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-25093057_zps97609aa4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:54:00 pm
Close-up of part assembled huts (2):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-25093104_zps002d4612.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-25093104_zps002d4612.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:54:45 pm
Close-up of part assembled huts (3):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-25093126_zpsb82f88d2.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-25093126_zpsb82f88d2.jpg.html)

Final dry-brushed weathering still to be done.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 05:56:53 pm
 Painted moulded stacks of beer casks needing filler:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-25093239_zps1ff38ad0.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-25093239_zps1ff38ad0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 06:00:59 pm
Peco NE Guard's Van after removing printed text with a needle file and an old toothbrush with "Cif" and then washed and dried. (One wheel removed as it was lose.) I'm awaiting delivery of reels of masking tape so sellotape was used, instead!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-25132702_zps62e72c94.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-25132702_zps62e72c94.jpg.html)

This was the first of three bought. It had a splash of gloss green paint on one end so was a suitable test vehicle for painting as one of Wadebridge's BR Grey LNER Toad brakevans.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 06:02:35 pm
The Wadebridge Toad E Brake Van with first coat of BR Grey livery:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-25170121_zps9caf51f4.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-25170121_zps9caf51f4.jpg.html)

Ex-LNER Toad E Brakevans at Wadebridge:

It would appear that an ex-LNER 'Toad E' brakevan was more often than not seen on Wenford freights, so at least one seems to have been was based at Wadebridge. Looking at lots of photos the Toad B/E can be spotted on Wenfordbridge to Wadebridge goods trains and sitting around in the yard at Wadebridge (including one behind Class 03 D2183), but I've not seen it on the main North Cornwall route. I'm concluding that there was one or two of these ER vans held at Wadebridge especially for use on the Wenford route. Sample numbers that ran to Wenford include: E153583 and Toad Es E162261 and E178583. Photos also appear of an ex-LNER 'Toad E' brakevan in BR Bauxite Brown, probably E178583.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 06:05:23 pm
The other side of the Toad E brakevan:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-25170133_zps15c7663e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-25170133_zps15c7663e.jpg.html)

Some very gentle sanding of this coat of paint in a few spots, cleaning and a thin final coat of (thinned) lighter grey paint should see it looking good. Once the masking tape arrives, I'll paint the tiny black oblong for wagon details on both sides as well as the white hand rails.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 06:07:22 pm
The two painted mineral tramway bridge sides:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-25170202_zps960bf14a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-25170202_zps960bf14a.jpg.html)

The tops of the bridge will be overgrown with shrubs growing on both sides of the parapet but thickest on the tramway side. (I suppose glued on green flock will do plus pieces of N Gauge hedge?)

I still need to rescore some of the stone courses with a craft knife, add mortar and, maybe, pick out some individual stones in different colours (I will do that, colour by colour, on each stone-constructed building -- eventually).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 25, 2014, 09:34:50 pm
Looks like good progress is being made Chris.
I see that lager and beer seems to be a bit of a recurrent theme !  :beers:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 10:00:01 pm
Yes, it is, Martin. I have a LOT of beer casks and two open wagons full of them plus the painted Peco wagon loads. There are two pubs at Cant Cove (the "Station Hotel" of local notoriety as far as regards what goes on upstairs, and the "Tramway Inn") and at least two more near Penmayne station (one near the loco. shed., the "Railymen's Arms", which winches up the casks from a Castle Ales wagon parked below) and one near the actual station; SR staff drink in one and the WR guys in the other!). I have Bass, Worthington, and Fremlins vans and will be converting some wagons to liveried Castle Ales vans and grain wagons, too. I also have a N Scale German horse-drawn brewer's dray to be converted to an English looking one and painted in Castle Ales colours. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 10:16:34 pm
Lady Penelope of Cant Castle's pink U.S. 'runabout' car (which inspired her good friends, Gerry & Sylvia Anderson, to give her fictional namesake, in "Thunderbirds", a pink Rolls Royce!):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/LadyPenelopesPinkUScar_zpsb2e915ea.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/LadyPenelopesPinkUScar_zpsb2e915ea.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 10:27:15 am
More Tamiya Putty time!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-26074946_zpsddd9859a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-26074946_zpsddd9859a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 10:30:59 am
Yet More Tamiya Putty Time!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-26075931_zpsa840d91d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-26075931_zpsa840d91d.jpg.html)

These are the top candidates for the piers for the Cant Cove girder bridge as rounded piers are preferred for use with fast-moving water (tidal in this case), I believe.

The left-hand pier is the original height; the right-hand one has been shortened to closer to what I reckon the required height will be by simply breaking off a couple of the modular sections.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 10:33:43 am
Ratio kit pallets, barrels, sacks painted and ready for use:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-26103007_zpsc5cbe6f5.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-26103007_zpsc5cbe6f5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 10:36:45 am
Class 14 D9501 plus one of Wadebridge's BR Grey ex-LNER Toad E Brake Vans on the just rebuilt, strengthened Cant Cove girder bridge arriving for a trip working up the Castle Estate branch to collect cask beer vans for the morning pickup goods to Wadebridge to collect, one loaded goods van going on to Port Perran. 8-)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-27084707_zpsdf4c1352.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-27084707_zpsdf4c1352.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 10:40:01 am
Painted parts of Ratio coal bays for coal merchant and loco shed at Cant Cove (1). Inside wooden sections.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-27110642_zpsff45f747.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-27110642_zpsff45f747.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 10:40:58 am
Painted parts of Ratio coal bays for coal merchant and loco shed at Cant Cove (2). Outside wooden sections.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-27110903_zps4160960f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-27110903_zps4160960f.jpg.html)

The other parts will be weathered / dirtied once the model is constructed.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 10:45:16 am
Cant Cove girder bridge after rebuilding by BR WR (new girders under new, raised deck) to enable higher axle-loadings on the Bodmin - Wadebridge - Cant Cove - Penmayne line, principally for what would become Class 35 "Hymeks" on through trains to Paddington (similar to the last summer of through trains to Bude from Paddington).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-27110703_zps0f4a1533.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-27110703_zps0f4a1533.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 10:47:33 am
Cant Cove girder bridge after rebuilding by BR WR (2).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-27110716_zpsb6c4472d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-27110716_zpsb6c4472d.jpg.html)

Making the deck out of 2 layers of compressed corrugated cardboard was NOT a good idea; however, once the Peco Code 55 flexi track is laid no-one will see, I hope! (I suppose I could add plasticard siding to increase the deck width?)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 10:49:28 am
The other side of Cant Cove girder bridge showing underneath sides. After application of Tamiya Putty, Basic Type, sanding (once dry), and painting (after washing and drying).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-27110729_zps20d24f32.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-27110729_zps20d24f32.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: NeMo on July 27, 2014, 10:49:42 am
Oh my, have painted two sets of these... soul destroyingly boring putting the pallets together afterwards. They do look nice though. I did the oil drums much more subdued, but think your approach with bright colours much better. More eye-catching, and presumably once weathered they'll look more "used". I found that painting them dull green and reds they became more or less grey after weathering.

Cheers, NeMo

Ratio kit pallets, barrels, sacks painted and ready for use:

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-26103007_zpsc5cbe6f5.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-26103007_zpsc5cbe6f5.jpg.html[/url])
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 10:56:25 am
Thanks, NeMo. The brightly coloured ones will receive a very thin wash of matt black to tone them down. However, I have seen pictures of oil drums with these colours (well, at least, red and yellow) in colour photos of mid-1960s steam loco. sheds. In N Scale, the general principle is to use brighter and lighter shades than the full-size prototype to achieve a realistic effect at normal viewing distance.

The black oil drums (I have many more of differing sizes and manufacture) are all painted gloss black and then partly dry-brushed with matt black. Some have colour coded tops (like the P&D Marsh pack illustration of three colours on the barrel tops) in gloss red and yellow. Gloss blue tops will follow when I get to that colour. Some drums will be left in plain black.

I find painting and kit building very therapeutic. (I have had a 'special case' mature student's thesis to deal with and she has really, inadvertently I'm sure, tried my patience!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 11:02:25 am
Cant Cove girder bridge decking with track showing the deck is too narrow (after I removed the card sides which were too high).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-27110942_zps6e68c783.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-27110942_zps6e68c783.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 11:04:25 am
Peco Toad E van after final coat of slightly darker grey paint (attempt at weathering with different shades of . . . grey!)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-27111115_zps39e4f0fa.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-27111115_zps39e4f0fa.jpg.html)

The tops of the van's sides need gentle sanding to ensure the roof fits properly after it has been weathered with a thin wash of thinned matt black paint (see next but one photo.).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 11:08:23 am
The van end -- NOT the end which had had a splash of green paint on it!).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-27111133_zps386f5f07.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-27111133_zps386f5f07.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 11:10:16 am
The van roof after its second coat of paint -- darker grey on top of the very dark grey undercoat on the white plastic). Still needs to be weathered, as previously mentioned. Also the couplings need to be painted matt black, you'll be surprised at the difference that will make! (That's a job for tomorrow; the roof has been nicely weathered and a photo will be posted, tomorrow.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-27111155_zps26fa2348.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-27111155_zps26fa2348.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 11:13:57 am
Painting is, finally, nearing the end. The next stage will be actually constructing some buildings. The second loco shed kit should, I hope, arrive this week. After cutting and spraying with Tamiya grey undercoat, adaption to Cant Cove's longer single road shed with side workshop and office will follow. The various painted huts and Ratio kits (coal stage, coal depot, weighbridge, cattle dock) should be assembled quite quickly. The mainly scratchbuilt Cant Cove signalbox will probably be next, after the loco shed, followed by the down platform LSWR pattern waiting shelter. The far more complex main station building will be last.

A few things I've learnt: not being used to painting with gloss paints, I've discovered that painting with gloss paints requires far more care: thinner coats, no attempts to paint both sides at once! Close-up photos REALLY show up imperfections. 8-( Painting in batches, colour by colour really saves time. You can never have enough thinner to hand! (I'm still using Humbrol enamel paints.)

Baseboard work awaits the trip to the DIY store to buy the insulating board pieces and construction of a few buildings. (That is why construction of the slanting bridge was a priority as the embankment of the former mineral tramway has to be matched up to it as do the cutting sides at the Wadebridge end of Cant Cove station.) Until the basic scenery sections are in place no tracklaying can take place as the baseboard surface is sea level with everything being built up, in layers of insulating board, on top of it from the front, flat, zero datum sea and beach section to the steep hillside (over the 'fiddle' sidings) at the back. Until the station track is in place, the curved station platforms cannot be built although the platform sides (stone and SR concrete extensions) are painted and ready as are the SR concrete panel and other fences plus the running-in bords (nameboards) and benches plus trolleys. The SR concrete footbridge also has to be assembled and then weathered. I have my eye on some suitable Chinese-made 'gas lantern' style green electric lamps for the station platforms but, alas, like all such working lights, still overscale.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 27, 2014, 08:59:24 pm
Thanks for the updates Chris.
Looking forward to seeing the baseboard taking shape.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 09:07:57 pm
Thanks, Martin. I'm aiming to complete the 'mass painting' early this week then get down to kit construction / conversion.

The baseboard depends on when my landlord is free as he will take me to the DIY store to buy the insulation panels and then will help me cut them to size and glue them in place. I hope that will be this week? Temporary tracklaying will then take place to ensure clearances using the Class 08 and Dapol 57XX as advised.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 09:29:52 pm
I'm still pondering the problem of (ideally, working) signals in the absence of any LSWR pattern lattice-post signals. SR concrete post upper-quadrants would be fairly easy to make (non-working) from LMSR upper quadrant signals, I think? However, I have just won on eBay: CR Signals N Gauge Colour Light Signal Kit N Gauge KN01 2x3 Aspect which will be used on the mainline, before and after the station loop. 2-aspect colour light signals would be, I believe, more typical, as used by the WR when they took over the Exeter-Salisbury route to control entry / exit from loops. But, in the summer season the line IS very intensively used, so . . .
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 28, 2014, 10:37:42 pm
More filler on the stone bridge piers plus the (unsuccessful) attempt to add mortar to the tramway bridge sides.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-28102032_zps34d0959f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-28102032_zps34d0959f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 28, 2014, 10:39:37 pm
A far more successful paint job (IMHO); ironically, back to close to the original plastic colour!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-28134102_zps3bc88891.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-28134102_zps3bc88891.jpg.html)

At least, I now have the different shades of grey I was trying to achieve. Fortunately, the better of the two (the R/H one) is the one which will face Cant Cove station. There will be plenty of overgrowth on the inside of the bridge parapet sides, some of which will hang over the sides of the bridge parapet of the side NOT facing the station! (The passengers won't see that.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 28, 2014, 10:43:55 pm
More scenes from my painting table:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-28134116_zps4799c197.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-28134116_zps4799c197.jpg.html)

If you look carefully, you can see the level crossing gate gloss white paint disaster!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 28, 2014, 10:46:12 pm
Yet more scenes from my painting table:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-28134132_zpsbfc89de7.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-28134132_zpsbfc89de7.jpg.html)

Plenty of beer casks for the Castle Brewery on view! Also the nicely weathered roof of the ex-LNER Toad brake van BEFORE the matt (which was not) varnish disaster!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 28, 2014, 10:47:47 pm
Dapol 57XX and half of one of my two B Sets tests the clearances on Cant Cove bridge 1:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-28170203_zps71b103a3.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-28170203_zps71b103a3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 28, 2014, 10:48:42 pm
Dapol 57XX and half of one of my two B Sets tests the clearances on Cant Cove bridge 2:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-28170319_zps3faa9a8d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-28170319_zps3faa9a8d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 28, 2014, 10:49:41 pm
More pictures and (I hope) positive progress, tomorrow, folks!

After over a week, I'm getting rather tired of production line painting, so, I think it's really time to start constructing some of those kits!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 29, 2014, 06:04:32 pm
Realised that there are still some kit parts which need painting and the beer casks needed the flash trimming off and repainting afterwards. i also realised that the 'grockles' (tourists) would need some of the excellent "Kronenbourg" lager that the Castle Brewery imports by the ferryvan, so found some suitable casks that, painted silver, would be good.

After the final, relative success of painting the tramway bridge sides, I then painted the 'stonework' parts of the first loco shed kit and was very pleased with the results after I had practiced on three huts. With one hut I had slightly too much thinner in the diluted dark grey paint with the inevitable result! However, nothing that a subsequent, light coat of paint could not fix.

I was also able to 'fix' the ex-LNER Toad brake van roof (still looks much worse than it should) and, successfully, lightly weather the undercarriage. The next two 'conversions' should be better.

After tomorrow, I'm going to take a few days' break to get some fresh air and enjoy some good Czech beer. (All those beer casks have caused me to work up a thirst!)

I hope the second loco shed kit will come, tomorrow. At least, I'll be able to spray it with Tamiya matt grey undercoat (together with two more bridges from my 'bridge box' one of which is that are also a possible candidate for Cant Cove's bridge).
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Post by: Chris in Prague on July 29, 2014, 07:04:32 pm
The first loco shed kit 'stone' parts. (Later, I will add a few other different coloured stones to these and the other stone-built buildings, using a colour photo. of Bodmin General station building as a guide.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-29170143_zps1a69821b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-29170143_zps1a69821b.jpg.html)

The secret is thinning the final colour down enough to colour the lighter undercoat and painting 'patches' in places so that the colour varies. (Look at a colour picture of a stone-built building for inspiration.) I also picked out a few stones for thicker paint. Different coloured stones will be added, later, as previously mentioned.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 29, 2014, 09:22:50 pm
The first batch of LSWR-pattern bufferbeams with a Peco one for comparison. I had no plans for these, just a good close-up photo. Tomorrow morning they will be finished. Some have 'buffers' that are too large, I think. The second one from the top looks the best, I think. (I actually only need four bufferbeams but will make some more, tomorrow and choose the best four.) I still have to think how to fix them to the Peco plastic bufferbeam supports which are all painted and weathered. (Again, I will use the best four of these.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-29214705_zps66fd01a6.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-29214705_zps66fd01a6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 29, 2014, 09:48:20 pm
My first (of a planned 3) attempts at converting 3 Peco NE Brake Vans into BR ex-LNER ones as 'allocated' (in real life) to Wadebridge (1).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-29222838_zps81faba27.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-29222838_zps81faba27.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 29, 2014, 09:49:30 pm
My first (of a planned 3) attempts at converting 3 Peco NE Brake Vans into BR ex-LNER ones as 'allocated' (in real life) to Wadebridge (2; in hideous close-up!).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-29222935_zps0992db19.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-29222935_zps0992db19.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 29, 2014, 09:52:39 pm
My first (of a planned 3) attempts at converting 3 Peco NE Brake Vans into BR ex-LNER ones as 'allocated' (in real life) to Wadebridge (3; in hideous close-up!).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-29223205_zps35c7b47f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-29223205_zps35c7b47f.jpg.html)

Quite a few lessons learnt from this for the next two attempts:

Use several THIN coats of paint rather than one thick one followed by a thin one.

Do NOT use 'matt' varnish, that isn't it! (That is one reason why the roof looks bad,; I had to paint over the varnish!

Always ensure that the roof and paintbrush are 100% dust-free!

With white painted handrails and black data panels, at normal viewing distance this should still look OK, I think. (Pity about the roof.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 30, 2014, 09:59:51 pm
Not too much to report, today. The second Ratio loco shed kit has not arrived so no progress there. I finished painting most of the wooden beer casks and started painting / repainting the aluminium beer casks. I also started painting two open wagons in a special livery . . . (I also need to find a spare Peco box van to paint similarly). Any guesses what livery this could be? Photos, later!

The (very thin) masking tapes have arrived from China, so I will be able to have a go at painting the handrails and data panels on my BR Grey ex-LNER Toad E brakevan, (E162261 or E178583, not that I'm attempting any white text!).

The second Peco NE brake van arrived (see below). This one is due to be painted in BR Red Oxide (which I believe is the predecessor to BR Bauxite?) as Wadebridge's ex-LNER Toad E brakevan E178583. I have some Graham Farish vans in this livery as a colour reference for when I try to mix up my own equivalent colour. If the end result is paler that will be down to the North Cornish sun and sea air! At least painting a brown model van BR Red Oxide (or as close as I can get) will be rather easier than light BR Grey! If successful, I will also have a go at painting the handrails and data panels on this one, too. It is then due to be tripped from Penmayne depot once the C&W team have finished with it to Wadebridge in one of the daily scheduled goods services and then on to Trepol Bay.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-30183442_zpsee2bea55.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-30183442_zpsee2bea55.jpg.html)

The third Peco NE brake van should arrive soon. This one is also due to be painted in BR Red Oxide with handrails and data panels and, as with the prototype, should then see the most use. Now all that is missing is for me to buy one of the N Gauge Society's Queen Mary brakevans as Wadebridge had one of these, also in BR Red Oxide / Bauxite and it worked with Wadebridge's ex-LNER Toad E brakevan E178583.

I'm going to take a break for fresh air and good beer for the next couple of days but will return to modelling Cant Bay, its buildings and rolling stock, from next Monday.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 31, 2014, 07:28:59 am
I almost forgot; I manged to find two suitable matching rocks for placing at either end of the beach section of Cant Cove. One (the right hand rock) even has a suitable ledge (top right) for the mermaid to sun herself without being seen from the beach or the trains! (Thanks to Bart of Julia Berg for prompting me to add a mermaid. The mermaid will appear, next week, in a photo.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-31074621_zpseff1d8fd.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-31074621_zpseff1d8fd.jpg.html)

I hope that the rocks look suitably 'North Cornish'! The colours are not far off those I have chosen for Cant Cove's stone-built structures.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 31, 2014, 07:47:26 am
I think those colours look pretty good.
If you need some granite rocks just let me know and I'll pop a handful in the post.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 31, 2014, 09:51:38 am
Thanks, Martin, for the confirmation. Once I get to setting out the edge of the River Camel I'll let you know about more smaller granite rocks.

The second Ratio loco shed kit, finally, arrived this morning. Being brand new rather than 'old shop stock' bought on eBay, the type and colours of the plastics are different. However, I hope with an undercoat of Tamiya aerosol grey, on Monday (together with two bridges and piers) and then painted the same shade of dark grey as the first kit pieces I hope it will look the same. (I already have embossed stone and tile plastic sheets painted the same colours -- an advantage of the batch painting process -- ready to construct the lean to office and small workshop modelled on the ones at Bodmin General. I should also have enough suitable doors and windows.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 31, 2014, 10:17:12 am
W30W, fresh from an overhaul at Swindon Works using the best parts from its withdrawn sisters at Worcester loco shed, sets off for Port Perran with a Penmayne driver and Worcester depot traction inspector conveying a group of staff from the Castle Brewery at Cant Cove. W30W has a "Castle Brewery" dark blue liveried wagon behind carefully loaded with casks of "Castle Ale" and Alsace-brewed "Kronenbourg" lager (for the tourists) for delivery to the pubs in Port Perran and Trepol Bay (such an opportunity for quick delivery was too good for the brewery manager to miss). You may be sure that the diesel railcar was standing in the cool interior of Cant Cove loco shed for 48 hours to let the small casks of "Castle Ale" in the guard's compartment for the passengers' refreshment to 'drop clear'! 8-)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-31110223_zpsfc7a816f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-31110223_zpsfc7a816f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 31, 2014, 10:18:23 am
W30W and tail load wagon crossing Cant Cove bridge (2).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-31110400_zpse8e3ece8.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-31110400_zpse8e3ece8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on July 31, 2014, 04:43:31 pm
Ah yes, the local factory setting off on their works beano  :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on July 31, 2014, 05:57:25 pm
A big crowd is expected at the Cornish Arms this evening all anticipating the arrival of a new ale. Morris Dancing and a folk group are booked for what should be a special evening.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 01, 2014, 06:48:41 am
Ah yes, the local factory setting off on their works beano  :D

And, of course, after a glorious week of hot, sunny weather, Saturday morning when they set off from Cant Cove was dull and raining! However, the forecast for the evening, at Port Perran, was much better!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on August 01, 2014, 05:07:34 pm
I hope somebody remembered a tap for the barrels of beer :)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 01, 2014, 05:31:25 pm
I hope somebody remembered a tap for the barrels of beer :)
The head brewer always carries one in his large leather briefcase. :beers:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 01, 2014, 06:10:06 pm
Some of the large wooden casks contain a special light refreshing summer brew for the "Cornish Arms" that the head brewer is hoping will be a big success.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Candy Apple Head on August 01, 2014, 09:25:29 pm
My first (of a planned 3) attempts at converting 3 Peco NE Brake Vans into BR ex-LNER ones as 'allocated' (in real life) to Wadebridge (3; in hideous close-up!).

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-29223205_zps35c7b47f.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-29223205_zps35c7b47f.jpg.html[/url])

Quite a few lessons learnt from this for the next two attempts:

Use several THIN coats of paint rather than one thick one followed by a thin one.

Do NOT use 'matt' varnish, that isn't it! (That is one reason why the roof looks bad,; I had to paint over the varnish!

Always ensure that the roof and paintbrush are 100% dust-free!

With white painted handrails and black data panels, at normal viewing distance this should still look OK, I think. (Pity about the roof.)


I've learned that the best way to get a nice finish on stock is to use a spray rather than brush. Here are two wagons I've refinished using Halfords grey and red oxide primer sprays. Of course, the same rules about thin coats apply just as much.

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg161/pronovotech/DSC_0414_zps775b2aad.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/pronovotech/media/DSC_0414_zps775b2aad.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: johnlambert on August 02, 2014, 10:39:56 am
I invested in an inexpensive airbrush for painting wagons, I find it easier to get a light coat of paint from the airbrush than from a spray can.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 04, 2014, 10:40:44 am
I'm back from a relaxing long weekend out of Prague. Thanks for the posts re: painting wagons, guys. I use Tamiya grey undercoat from an aerosol can and am very pleased with it and find it very easy to use. Unfortunately, not living in the U.K., I do not have access to Halford's car spray paint aerosols. Aerosols and paints cannot be posted from the U.K., but can, I think, be from neighbouring Germany so I would have to find similar colours to BR Bauxite / Red Oxide and BR Light / Dark Grey from a German brand(s) of car spray paint aerosols. With careful painting I think I can get better and better results with painting using brushes. The first ex-LNER brake van was very much a learning experience. It looks fine though from normal viewing distance. I hope to try out my masking tapes on it when i paint all the vans' handrails and data panels. (I'm still waiting for the 3rd Peco NE brake van.)

As I have another holiday break coming up for the week after next I'm running out of railway modelling time. I want to finish all the painting so I can clear everything away at the end of the month. (I don't need so much space to construct individual buildings and, if everything is painted, then it is just a case of cutting and gluing with final 'touch-ups' of paint at the end.) I hope to, at least, start and finish the loco shed this month as the scenery has to be designed around it (specifically the grassy lane down to Cant Cove itself from the station). There is still a lot of detail painting to do (individual, different coloured stones, mortar, weathering) which takes a surprising amount of time. I also want to finish painting the Castle Brewery goods wagons. (I will design a logo, later, and print it on photographic paper in various sizes and then glue the logos on plasticard prepainted boards which will then be affixed to the wagons.)

I suspect that tracklaying will have to be postponed if I cannot get the scenic elements (insulation boards) cut and fitted onto the baseboard before the end of the month. The final, this time a 9" radius, Tracksetta arrived with more scenic accessories and rolling stock. I think a 9" radius should be suitable for the Cant Cove Estate branch but, until I lay track and run a few test trains (nothing with a long fixed wheelbase) I cannot be sure.

The CR colour light signals kits have arrived and they have been left for a future time.

I have two different backscenes to try out once the backscene boards have been constructed (anther postponed job).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Gooner1953 on August 04, 2014, 01:36:17 pm
I use Tamiya grey undercoat from an aerosol can and am very pleased with it and find it very easy to use. Unfortunately, not living in the U.K., I do not have access to Halford's car spray paint aerosols. Aerosols and paints cannot be posted from the U.K., but can, I think, be from neighbouring Germany so I would have to find similar colours to BR Bauxite / Red Oxide and BR Light / Dark Grey from a German brand(s) of car spray paint aerosols.

Hi Chris,

I can recommend the following two car aerosols as being good matches for BR freight bauxite and the freight grey and worth considering:

Bauxite - Alfa Romeo 834 Bruno Cilento . On top of a grey primer it's a good match for early BR bauxite, on top of a red primer it's a good match for late BR bauxite
Grey - VW LA6E Eisgruen. Again, depending on the primer used it works for both the early and late BR freight greys

I obtained my acrylic versions from a car parts dealer who can mix paints to any particular manufacturer's shades, there are loads of such dealers here in the UK and I would have thought you would be able to do the same thing over there in the Czech Republic?

Hope this helps
Nick
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Gooner1953 on August 04, 2014, 04:33:29 pm


Chris, I should have added that car parts or paint suppliers won't have these shades 'on the shelf' as it were, they mix them to order in much the same way as you can get paint for home decorating. There are a number of suppliers on eBay as a search for one of the shades will show.

Nick
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 04, 2014, 06:21:32 pm
Thanks, Nick. I will try German eBay.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 04, 2014, 06:34:22 pm
The third Peco NE brake van has arrived. Now I have to decide whether to wait until I can see if I can buy some aerosol car paint in the correct red brown colour? I can buy 3x 400ml HAFTGRUND ROTBRAUN [Red Brown]  rust Primer car paint antirust filler aerosols on German eBay for under 10 Euros plus P&P. I can also buy a 400ml 1K Primer Red Brown 7405 primer spray 4CR primer filler aerosol can there for under 9 Euros plus P&P and the buyer ships here.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 04, 2014, 07:08:38 pm
The Castle Brewery recently bought an ex-SR long wheelbase tarpaulin open wagon for increased capacity. Here it is fresh from the paintshop with one of the previous generation open wagons for comparison:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-07-31114540_zpsc245771c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-07-31114540_zpsc245771c.jpg.html)

Both wagons will get matt black data panels and a VERY light wash of 'dirt' to tone down the gloss and bring out the detail. (Lady Penelope of Cant Castle abhors dirt!)

Some of those barrels still need attention I see to make them truly look like barrels and not the misshapen lumps of plaster they arrived as!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 04, 2014, 09:30:35 pm
Just finished removing all the white lettering from the two Peco NE brake vans and another short wheelbase open wagon I found. After washing them, I left them to dry overnight.

Tomorrow, I want to paint the second short wheelbase open wagon in Castle Brewery blue (before it heads off to Port Perran) and start on the locoshed for Cant Cove and, maybe, some of the other Ratio kits. And some of those beer barrels still need some filler and painting!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2014, 07:16:39 am
Thanks to Nick, I now have an eBay supplier who will ship (via DHL) aerosols with the suitable grey and red-brown (bauxite) colours:

Grey -  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Spraydose-Volkswagen-Audi-LA6E-Eisgruen-Einschichtlack-400ml-/161118587394?pt=Autopflege_Wartung&hash=item25836a8a02 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Spraydose-Volkswagen-Audi-LA6E-Eisgruen-Einschichtlack-400ml-/161118587394?pt=Autopflege_Wartung&hash=item25836a8a02)
 
Bauxite - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Spraydose-Alfa-Romeo-834-Bruno-Cilento-A-S-Einschichtlack-400ml-/390667016269?pt=Autopflege_Wartung&hash=item5af591984d (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Spraydose-Alfa-Romeo-834-Bruno-Cilento-A-S-Einschichtlack-400ml-/390667016269?pt=Autopflege_Wartung&hash=item5af591984d)

As I have two Peco NE brake vans ready to paint in red oxide / bauxite (it is hard to tell from the colour photos in a book the exact shade of red-brown but then colour would have faded over the years and 1960s colour film was not that good anyway) it would make sense to order the red-brown colour aerosol ASAP. One van is for Trepol Bay. Meanwhile, I can continue other painting and kit building / conversion.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on August 05, 2014, 12:29:18 pm
Some of those barrels still need attention I see to make them truly look like barrels and not the misshapen lumps of plaster they arrived as!

They are not very good are they? I got some as well - what I really wanted were the coal sacks, and I bought a load, but the bl***y things are so out of scale I ditched them!
It would take ten coalmen to lift one sack. Some I bought from a different guy were even worse!
More suitable for OO gauge - do these people really understand how tiny figures are in N gauge?

OK, rant over  8)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2014, 02:21:37 pm
I think the problem could be the moulds the guy uses as I also bought a lot of items from him, last year. Some are much better than others but all need some attention, I'm afraid to look realistic. I have not been through all the items, yet.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on August 05, 2014, 02:36:47 pm
His dry stone walling is very good, I'm pleased with the finished article for that, but the "farm sacks" (just brown blobs) went straight in the bin.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2014, 04:39:20 pm
His dry stone walling is very good, I'm pleased with the finished article for that, but the "farm sacks" (just brown blobs) went straight in the bin.

I agree with you about the stone walling.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2014, 07:01:19 pm
Today's candidates for repainting:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140804_182609_zps13bc9af5.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140804_182609_zps13bc9af5.jpg.html)

The two NE vans have had all text removed and their roofs painted dark grey. Repainting of the bodies will await the red-brown paint aerosol from eBay Germany, following Nick's suggestion.

The SR open wagon is now ex-works in Castle Brewery royal blue reading to be sent, via Wadebridge, to Port Perran with the week's regular delivery of casks. (I'm still working on getting all the cask stacks to look like stacked casks!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2014, 07:03:46 pm
Establishing how long Cant Cove's loco shed should be (1 with 61XX)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140805_162358_zps454fa208.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140805_162358_zps454fa208.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2014, 07:04:58 pm
Establishing how long Cant Cove's loco shed should be (2 with 2 X 57XX -- equivalent to a GWR diesel railcar)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140805_162715_zps45a7756c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140805_162715_zps45a7756c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2014, 07:06:42 pm
Establishing how long Cant Cove's loco shed should be (3 with 2 X 57XX -- close-up of Graham Farish -- Preserved by Bodmin GWS -- and one of Wadebridge's 2 -- Dapol)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140805_162811_zps6b287e7b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140805_162811_zps6b287e7b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2014, 07:08:00 pm
Establishing how long Cant Cove's loco shed should be (4 with 2 X 57XX -- equivalent to a GWR diesel railcar)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140805_162826_zps0554b24f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140805_162826_zps0554b24f.jpg.html)

The conclusion? Cut off the last bay from each of these 'extension' pieces before spray-painting the kit pieces with Tamiya grey undercoat, tomorrow, ready for painting to match the first kit's pieces.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2014, 07:09:13 pm
The Castle Brewery's 3 open wagons:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140805_163236_zpsef2f0789.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140805_163236_zpsef2f0789.jpg.html)

The middle wagon is the latest repaint and is bound for Port Perran. The last (R/H) wagon has now been weathered.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2014, 07:13:29 pm
Close-up of the weathered open wagon 1

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140805_163349_zpsf0b9c48e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140805_163349_zpsf0b9c48e.jpg.html)

The marks inside are from where the previous owner had glued casks / barrels which I removed for repainting.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2014, 07:15:41 pm
Close-up of the newly painted (ex-SR) third open wagon -- for Port Perran cask deliveries.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140805_163432_zpsb629bcc3.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140805_163432_zpsb629bcc3.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2014, 07:17:15 pm
Having 'mulled over' the loco shed design for weeks, I now have a good idea of what it will look like; 7 (rather than the 4 that St. Ives's had) window bays with an offset workshop at the end and a lean-to for the staff alongside the last two bays. These two additional structures will be built from the pre-painted embossed plastic sheets. I already have a big selection of suitable windows and doors.

The inspiration is mostly St. Ives' but also Bodmin General's former loco shed:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-BodminGeneral-LocoShed-COLOUR_zpsd95b9860.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-BodminGeneral-LocoShed-COLOUR_zpsd95b9860.jpg.html)

However, only some elements will be used and they will be changed and some repositioned (e.g. the office will be moved to one side and be extended). I like the idea of having the 'chimney' smoke vents though; however St. Ives shed did not have them so the Ratio kit roof will do. The workshop will have a slanting and not a flat roof. I like the idea of having the water tank mounted on columns over the coaling stage (like St. Ives) as that will save space. I also like the vegetation that grew over part of the stone walls of St. Ives loco shed. Such vegetation will help Cant Cove's loco. shed blend into the countryside.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-StIvesLocoShedwithvegetation_zpsf6b2b2b7.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-StIvesLocoShedwithvegetation_zpsf6b2b2b7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2014, 07:43:22 pm
A view of how I envisage the interior of Cant Cove loco shed -- based on Bodmin General's:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-BodminGeneral-LocoShedInteriorpre-1962_zps23f8639f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-BodminGeneral-LocoShedInteriorpre-1962_zps23f8639f.jpg.html)

I will 'dig' the inspection pit in the insulation tile 'surface' under the loco shed and I also have the Peco inspection pit for use if necessary, too. (However, it is not really deep enough.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Bob Wild on August 06, 2014, 12:11:25 pm

 I also like the vegetation that grew over part of the stone walls of St. Ives loco shed. Such vegetation will help Cant Cove's loco. shed blend into the countryside.

I like that. I'm going to have a go at that too

Quote
I will 'dig' the inspection pit in the insulation tile 'surface' under the loco shed

I was going to do that too - until I realised that directly under the shed was the termination of a mass of wiring. C'est la vie!

Bob
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 06:59:24 am

 I also like the vegetation that grew over part of the stone walls of St. Ives loco shed. Such vegetation will help Cant Cove's loco. shed blend into the countryside.

I like that. I'm going to have a go at that too

Quote
I will 'dig' the inspection pit in the insulation tile 'surface' under the loco shed

I was going to do that too - until I realised that directly under the shed was the termination of a mass of wiring. C'est la vie!

Bob

Thanks, Bob. I'm going to try the vegetation on the corner of a lineside hut, first. One of the advantages of having insulation board as the surface of my baseboard is that it should make it easy to 'dig' things out or 'bury' them (like point motors, I hope).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:07:05 am
Painting of scenic items continues but, at last, construction of Cant Cove loco. shed has commenced. As requested, I will be posting pictures of the construction with detailed commentary.

Yes, it's those beer casks (again) but also the Cadbury's chocolate vending machines and weighing machines (one will be for Penmayne) for Cant Cove station.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140806_191501_zps9644a553.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140806_191501_zps9644a553.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:09:29 am
Finally, I'm happy with the stacked beer casks.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140806_191518_zpscdece1c4.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140806_191518_zpscdece1c4.jpg.html)

You can also see the underneath of one of the sets of 6 beer casks on wooden frames.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:12:43 am
More bridges and piers (not all will be used at Cant Cove; some were bought with future extension boards to Penmayne and, maybe even Wadebridge -- if only a fiddle yard, in mind).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140806_191619_zpsd5f76521.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140806_191619_zpsd5f76521.jpg.html)

The double track width stone bridge piers are for a future extension where the line was built for double track if required.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:14:42 am
After spraypainting with Tamiya grey undercoat the Ratio kit parts from the second pack.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140806_191647_zps21c7c6ac.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140806_191647_zps21c7c6ac.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:17:20 am
The spraypainted parts of the second loco shed kit and Ratio roughcast sheets (ready for future use).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140806_191804_zps56a2dc54.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140806_191804_zps56a2dc54.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:18:35 am
Construction of Cant Cove loco. shed under way (at last). Parts from first (painted) and second kits.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_082316_zpsa2acbe2d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_082316_zpsa2acbe2d.jpg.html)

The objective is to reuse as much parts as possible, not least to ensure a similar style. Note the very useful Tamiya filler!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:24:24 am
Close-up showing new shed end build from parts from the two open ends and the extension part cut to be joined onto the pained section. (I wanted the join not be visible so did not use the joining pieces Ratio supplies.) The cut-out sections, cut down, will form the sides of the workshop extension.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_082341_zpsf09a5563.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_082341_zpsf09a5563.jpg.html)

The brown oblong is the back of the door and doorframe unit (cut from the base part of a Kestrel signalbox kit bought for spare parts to help construct Cant Cove signal box). The brown oblong will be hidden by the workshop extension.

The new shed end shows filler before scribing in and sanding.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:30:56 am
Close-up of the shed end showing how it was made from a shed entrance with infilling of strips cut from another shed entrance with filler then applied. The lower half will (mostly) be covered by the offset workshop extension.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_082358_zpsdc4145dc.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_082358_zpsdc4145dc.jpg.html)

Cant Cove was the temporary terminus of the line from Wadebridge whilst funds were being raised to tunnel through Cant Hill and build the rest of the line to Penmayne. Therefore, a quite large single-road shed was required with a workshop to house and maintain the line's (long since scrapped) original two 0-6-0Ts.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:32:25 am
The inside of the loco shed end with the door to the workshop. Some filler has already been applied but not sanded.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_082414_zpsbce4b994.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_082414_zpsbce4b994.jpg.html)

The door will be cleaned up.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:42:23 am
One of my two additional NE Brake Vans with text removed and roof repainted. (Waiting for suitable red-brown aerosol spray paint to arrive for use after a couple of weeks.) The pair will represent Wadebridge's ex-LNER 'Toad E' brakevan in BR Red Oxide / Bauxite Brown, probably E178583. (One van is destined for Trepol Bay for goods trains to Wadebridge and Cant Cove and Penmayne; hence there should be two identical vans made by me!)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_115050_zps44ba5ac8.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_115050_zps44ba5ac8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:44:32 am
Another view of one of my two additional NE Brake Vans with text removed and showing repainted roof. (Waiting for suitable red-brown aerosol spray paint to arrive for use after a couple of weeks.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_115550_zpsad64a621.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_115550_zpsad64a621.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:49:10 am
High summer. Crossing a bridge over an inlet of the River Camel, east of Cant Cove, Cant Cove's Class 04 diesel shunter heads a short freight of three loaded Castle Brewery wagons plus ex-LNER Brake Van to Wadebridge from where the second wagon will be taken to Port Perran.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_120154_zps717e1f39.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_120154_zps717e1f39.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: newportnobby on August 07, 2014, 12:05:16 pm
Nice bit of 'cut & shut' on the shed, Chris :thumbsup:
Can I ask what you used to remove the lettering from the guard's van please?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Bealman on August 07, 2014, 12:11:21 pm
They are certainly clear photographs.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 01:13:37 pm
Nice bit of 'cut & shut' on the shed, Chris :thumbsup:
Can I ask what you used to remove the lettering from the guard's van please?

Thanks, Nobby. The work continues and will be documented.

All I used was a needle file (used carefully) and an old nylon toothbrush with 'Cif' cleaner. Then a good wash and left to dry. With a couple of thin coats of paint the remaining old text does not show through.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 01:15:23 pm
They are certainly clear photographs.

Thanks, Bealman. I've now got used to the focus function camera on my Samsung Galaxy S4.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:36:05 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 2) (1st picture):

The first two sides ready to be 'mated'!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_131723_zps16004d33.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_131723_zps16004d33.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:37:31 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 2) (2nd picture ):

'Mated' successfully!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_143352_zpsebc75bec.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_143352_zpsebc75bec.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:39:04 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 2) (3rd picture):

The inside -- this won't do as I want to illuminate the shed (eventually).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_143401_zps8dc06126.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_143401_zps8dc06126.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:42:26 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 2) (4th picture):

The second side showing what needs to be cut.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_143425_zps813732c9.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_143425_zps813732c9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:43:51 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 2) (5th picture):

The cuts begun.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_144112_zps6f372871.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_144112_zps6f372871.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:46:52 pm
An example of heavy weathering (1). An old Castle Brewery (ex-SR) insulated van body used for storing the empty beer casks at Cant Cove station from the "Station Hotel" opposite ready for loading on the next branch goods train to the Castle Estate.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_144221_zpsdeb86ed4.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_144221_zpsdeb86ed4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:47:26 pm
An example of heavy weathering (2). An old Castle Brewery (ex-SR) insulated van body used for storing the empty beer casks at Cant Cove station from the "Station Hotel" opposite ready for loading on the next branch goods train to the Castle Estate.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_144231_zps3201fa4b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_144231_zps3201fa4b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:49:46 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 2) (6th picture):

The cuts almost finished.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_144946_zpsb1aad8dc.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_144946_zpsb1aad8dc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:50:56 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 2) (7th picture):

The cuts completed.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_145242_zps5e6728a5.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_145242_zps5e6728a5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:51:49 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 2) (8th picture):

The second side parts ready for 'mating'!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_150212_zps1d4b460a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_150212_zps1d4b460a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:53:16 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 2) (9th picture)

The main parts for the workshop extension with the linking back wall before adding a small round window. Like St. Ive's former loco. shed, it will be covered in vegeatation; probably climbing ivy with some small bushes and wild grasses.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_162616_zpsbe1ad4d8.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_162616_zpsbe1ad4d8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:54:31 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 2) (10th picture)

Success; two 'mated' sides:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_165759_zpsd95684f7.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_165759_zpsd95684f7.jpg.html)

Once again, the Tamiya Filler comes in very handy!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:57:01 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 2) (11th picture)

The reverse side of the workshop back wall showing the use of a clip to hold the glued matchstick in place that will be used to ensure a good strong corner joint.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_170117_zpsb67f572d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_170117_zpsb67f572d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:58:32 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 2) (12th picture)

The first (offset) side wall of the workshop glued in place behind the loco shed rear wall.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_180521_zps0dfb0a9d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_180521_zps0dfb0a9d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 08:00:44 pm
More to come later!  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: newportnobby on August 07, 2014, 09:31:40 pm
More to come later!  :thankyousign:

Sorry Chris, but can I ask why you don't post all the pics/descriptions in the one post?
Or are you trying to catch me up on post count :D ;)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: johnlambert on August 07, 2014, 09:32:47 pm
It's coming along nicely Chris.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on August 07, 2014, 10:21:15 pm
Or are you trying to catch me up on post count :D ;)

If so, he's got a bit of a way to go  :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:02:18 pm
More to come later!  :thankyousign:

Sorry Chris, but can I ask why you don't post all the pics/descriptions in the one post?
Or are you trying to catch me up on post count :D ;)

Thanks. It's easier for me to post this way. I like to add pictures as I go so have something to look back on as I my concentrated modelling time will come to an end in a few weeks, alas. I hope such individual posts are easier for readers, too?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:29:15 pm
Or are you trying to catch me up on post count :D ;)

If so, he's got a bit of a way to go  :D

Very true, Mike. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 11:43:33 pm
It's coming along nicely Chris.

Thanks, John. It's a key building as beyond and below it will be the rutted grassy lane leading down to Cant Cove from the station. The workshop is offset because of the angle at which the loco. shed is sited in relation to the lane. Beyond the lane will be the hillside.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 08, 2014, 09:45:12 am
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 3) (1st, 2nd and 3rd pictures)

Cant Cove loco shed 2nd wall interior cardboard strips (cut from an envelope that a secondhand book arrived in) added:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140807_193615_zps4878087e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140807_193615_zps4878087e.jpg.html)

Contrasting treatments:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140808_090612_zps9c46af0e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140808_090612_zps9c46af0e.jpg.html)

Top: after spreading Tamiya filler

Bottom: after spraypainting with Tamiya grey undercoat

Next, the filler spread version after spraypainting with Tamiya grey undercoat

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140808_092012_zps30369948.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140808_092012_zps30369948.jpg.html)

Definitely better.

Now needs to be painted a gloss pale cream (faded SR cream). The bottom up to the window recesses then needs to be painted gloss SR green. Both I will have to mix up, myself.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 08, 2014, 07:54:28 pm
A bit of a disaster: cream is NOT yellow with white added but white with a little yellow added! Duh! Having almost run out of both matt white and gloss white to dilute the resulting creamy yellow colour I mixed up, the only alternative was to give the creamy yellow interior walls a wash of diluted matt white (what's left) and it seems to have toned the colour down! Maybe, once it has dried fully, I should give the walls a wash of diluted matt grey? I hope that the creamy yellow external woodwork of the loco shed won't look too bad. I can always give it a grey wash, too...

The workshop extension is almost finished; I cannot assemble it completely until I have fitted the windows which I have now found the second pack of. The other pack is with other packs of windows which I need to find.

Have decided how to make the planned office lean-to using a modified front wall from one of three identical Ratio kit huts.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 09, 2014, 09:25:03 am
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 4) (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th pictures)

1) Modifying the main roof sections.

Showing the two parts from the first loco. shed kit that have to be removed to make the central raised roof section continuous. I've found it very important to lay the pieces out and envisage where they will go to make sure I'm removing the right part from each piece!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140808_121301_zpsd15dbcc6.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140808_121301_zpsd15dbcc6.jpg.html)

All four roof sections laid out in their correct positions (the second pair have yet to be adapted to enable the upper roof section to be continuous across the centre of the lower roof):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140808_121729_zps2d94eabd.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140808_121729_zps2d94eabd.jpg.html)

The (unshortened) pieces laid out alongside a loco. shed wall section:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140808_121813_zpscd8ad2d6.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140808_121813_zpscd8ad2d6.jpg.html)

The (unshortened) pieces laid out alongside a loco. shed wall section to get an idea of how much nees to be removed:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140808_121942_zpsf18bf08c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140808_121942_zpsf18bf08c.jpg.html)

Checking a roof section alongside the original loco. shed wall to check how much overhang should be left after shortening:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140808_122607_zpsa79b9d93.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140808_122607_zpsa79b9d93.jpg.html)

Checking the roof sections alongside the loco. shed wall to check how much overhang should be cut and from where!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140808_130245_zps21ef7713.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140808_130245_zps21ef7713.jpg.html)

Checking the upper roof sections against the new central gap (there will need to be some of the previously cut-off roof sections added to fill a small gap in the lower roof. (Also showing the inside of one of the loco. shed walls.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140808_163340_zps53d2d062.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140808_163340_zps53d2d062.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 09, 2014, 09:48:42 am
2) The inner sides of the two loco. shed walls after filler and sanding:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140808_163358_zps7ed62710.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140808_163358_zps7ed62710.jpg.html)

Unfortunately, on one side the cardboard did not take kindly to be sanded! So, this will be the side which will be placed on the near side of the loco. shed (when viewed from the front of the layout) as the viewer will be seeing the other wall through the windows, especially when the shed interior (roof) lights are working!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 09, 2014, 09:56:25 am
Someone recently asked about drybrushing and washes, so I took a picture of part of the generic Ratio kit instruction kit which explains these techniques pretty well:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140808_163425_zps3824501b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140808_163425_zps3824501b.jpg.html)

I'm still using Humbrol enamels for washes and Humbrol thinner BUT if too much thinner is added then it 'attacks' the plastic! (I practised on one of three identical Ratio lineside huts.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 09, 2014, 09:59:40 am
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 4) (10th and 11th pictures)

The loco. shed rear workshop (inspired by the rear extension to Bodmin General's former loco. shed) under construction:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140808_170053_zps4a4f42ff.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140808_170053_zps4a4f42ff.jpg.html)

The rear round window fitted into the rear wall of the workshop was left after 'cutting and shutting' two of the spare Ratio loco. shed entrances (from the second kit) to make the loco. shed rear wall. (I'm assuming that, in real life, when the extension was built the original stone exterior wall was left unplastered).

Overhead view of the loco. shed workshop showing the black card temporary insert to ensure the wall stayed parallel:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140808_170104_zps771a1a5b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140808_170104_zps771a1a5b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 09, 2014, 10:06:03 am
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 4) (12th picture)

The successful (I think) inner loco. shed walls after a wash of dilute matt white paint applied over the original (too bright and too yellow) semi-gloss yellow cream:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140809_080245_zps2ed3c3d8.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140809_080245_zps2ed3c3d8.jpg.html)

In reality, the walls look rather creamier.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 09, 2014, 10:14:32 am
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 4) (13th picture)

Gluing windows in lineside huts (just as a trial):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140809_080334_zps6db85d1b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140809_080334_zps6db85d1b.jpg.html)

The clear plastic came from a pack of tomatoes.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 09, 2014, 10:16:18 am
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 4) (14th picture)

The loco. shed roof sections glued together and filler applied to the two longest (but not, yet, the shortest) sections:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140809_080347_zps82adc1a1.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140809_080347_zps82adc1a1.jpg.html)

Also the U.S. Army Jeep bought as 'War Surplus' and used by a local farmer with a matching trailer for his stall set out on the lane to Cant Cove for holidaymakers to buy his produce.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 09, 2014, 10:20:04 am
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 4) (15th picture)

The loco. shed workshop with the modified Ratio lineside hut front section (before sanding and painting with a wash of matt dark grey) for the adjoining office:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140809_080359_zps6c907bcb.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140809_080359_zps6c907bcb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 09, 2014, 10:22:34 am
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 4) (16th picture)

The second wall of the loco. shed workshop (before painting with a wash of matt dark grey) after Tamiya filler was applied to the cutout remaining from adapting the second wall of the second Ratio loco. shed kit:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140809_080512_zpsca875f06.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140809_080512_zpsca875f06.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 09, 2014, 10:24:54 am
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 4) (17th picture)

The inside of the workshop side wall showing the piece of plasticard for the base for the filler and the piece of matchstick for reinforcing the corner joint:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140809_080530_zps2690ec01.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140809_080530_zps2690ec01.jpg.html)

My apologies for the blurring but I think the two key details can be seen?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on August 09, 2014, 07:28:42 pm
Just catching up on all of this after a week away.
Looks like good progress and plenty of detail.
Keep up the good work Chris and keep the updates coming.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 09, 2014, 09:14:56 pm
Thanks, Martin. I hope that Trepol Bay is progressing well. Alas, I'm running out of days devoted just to railway modelling. My target is to complete building the loco. shed, at least. (The roof will be removeable as I'd like to fit, later, the supporting wooden beams together with LED lighting.) I have, though, done a great deal of painting of items so have quite a few other kits ready to construct with all the parts already painted. I have also done some other small tasks like painting wagons, and glueing figures and wagon loads on clear plastic bases.

After my experience modifying the loco. shed kits I really will make cardboard mockups of the scratchbuild station buildings, first, as I can see how that will save a LOT of time and avoid mistakes when building the final plasticard version!

I won't be able to do the red-brown spraypainting for a couple of weeks so no more progress on the two remaining ex-LNER Wadebridge brake vans and I won't be trying painting matt black wagon data panels until after that.

Tracklaying is postponed until the scenic sections (insulating board squares have been bought, cut and laid in place as the track will be laid on the lowest level one).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 10, 2014, 10:18:31 am
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 5 -- only 2 more days to go!) (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th pictures)

The two loco shed walls now painted in identical washes of dark grey paint (with some deliberate variation on the upper wall -- one end is closer to the sea so I imagine it will be slightly more faded):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140809_135221_zps63378483.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140809_135221_zps63378483.jpg.html)

The back of the workshop (which will be almost covered by ivy) attached by one side wall to the back (original exterior stone wall) of the loco shed:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140809_135235_zps2709a8e3.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140809_135235_zps2709a8e3.jpg.html)

Some of the pieces laid out for the lean-to office plus some of the Ratio chimneys as both the workshop and the office will have coal (of course) fires:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140809_135314_zps2dd1c2f6.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140809_135314_zps2dd1c2f6.jpg.html)

Close-up of the pieces for the office (the white plasticard will be scored as stone edging, then painted):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140810_080157_zps42bd92db.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140810_080157_zps42bd92db.jpg.html)

An example of why a cardboard mock-up is a good idea! Retro-fitting the door from the loco shed to the office with a new window sill for the now smaller window (and the obligatory filler -- before sanding, after it dries):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140810_080220_zps84aa0494.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140810_080220_zps84aa0494.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140810_080233_zpsff50369c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140810_080233_zpsff50369c.jpg.html)

Now, that spare set of painted shed doors will come in useful for the rear doors for the workshop -- there should be a fire exit and means of carrying in equipment from outside (again, retro-fitting, I'm afraid!):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140810_103724_zps1d233b08.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140810_103724_zps1d233b08.jpg.html)

I should have listened more to Sid the Surveyor (a key member of the Cant Castle Estate management team and a sharp dresser in the best 1960s Carnaby Street style!):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140810_103733_zps89a3d03c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140810_103733_zps89a3d03c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: newportnobby on August 10, 2014, 01:34:17 pm
As Eric Morecambe would have said "You can't see the join"
Good work, Chris :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 10, 2014, 01:49:03 pm
As Eric Morecambe would have said "You can't see the join"
Good work, Chris :thumbsup:

Many thanks, Nobby. (BTW, I've always been a very BIG fan of the late, great Eric Morecombe.) I'm really enjoying this.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 11, 2014, 09:10:59 am
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 6 -- only 1 more day to go!)

Exterior of workshop showing opening cut for adapted doors and new lintel:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140810_175125_zps79ec67a5.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140810_175125_zps79ec67a5.jpg.html)

Loco. shed rear interior wall and workshop pieces laid out:

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Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 11, 2014, 08:32:29 pm
Not much achieved, today. I managed to paint all the new interior walls with a matt white wash over the gloss cream, did a bit more work on the shed roof and searched for suitable 1960s pictures to hang on the office and workshop walls! I also did some work on the work benches to go around the workshop walls.

More pictures should follow, tomorrow, my last day of railway modelling for a short while.

Does anyone know, approximately, the dimensions of a standard BR poster?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 12, 2014, 08:12:17 am
I have spoken to my landlord and we'll arrange, in about 10 days (as I'm taking a short break) in Prague, to go to buy the insulation boards to cut and fix onto the baseboard for Cant Cove. Once the first layer is down I can begin tracklaying!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jonclox on August 12, 2014, 09:33:29 am
Once the first layer is down I can begin tracklaying!
:goggleeyes: As soon as that? :goggleeyes: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 12, 2014, 09:56:15 am
Once the first layer is down I can begin tracklaying!
:goggleeyes: As soon as that? :goggleeyes: :laughabovepost:

I have a detailed, scale trackplan that I've worked on, on and off, for half a year so once I have the first layer of insulation board to pin the track down on the baseboard tracklaying should be quite quick. I have more track than I should need and all the points. It's also a quite simple trackplan based on a real-life North Cornish LSWR prototype (with three minor additions: a headshunt with a loco. shed line off it and a short branchline) so it should work fine and not need major alterations. I will also have the loco. shed ready so can use it to ensure the loco. shed siding is the correct length and correctly positioned for it to fit properly. I already have the overbridge sides (for carrying the former mineral tramway over the railway) so can ensure that this sole overbridge is fitted (at a slant) to clear the trains on the tracks below. I also have a choice of bridges (with supporting piers) to carry the track over the inlet to Cant Cove itself. So, all the key scenic elements which need to be ready for the tracklaying are to hand. I also have the components (platform sides) for building the curved station platforms once the two tracks are laid. Plus, I have wired rail joiners (no soldering) and tackpins. All points will be manually operated, to begin with (with provision for burying point motors, in future, in the insulation board). So, yes, as soon as that! 8-) The only caveat is the infamous 'hex frog juicer' still needs to be bought and fitted for the three-way point in the goods yard.

I've learnt, the hard way, that the more thought and preplanning, the less extra work will be required. I do not want to have to rip up track or alter / damage scenic elements (built around it) just because I'm in a rush to get track down and run trains on it. I'm sure I will still make mistakes but they won't be from rushing things!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Bob Wild on August 12, 2014, 11:16:22 am
I'm sure John was only joking. Actually I admire your patience and thoroughness. I wish I was the same. In my enthusiasm I have already deferred phase 2 of my original plan to start on phase 5 - the colliery. I really must learn to be a bit more disciplined!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 12, 2014, 11:26:44 am
Thanks, Bob, I'm sure John was. That is the problem with text messages. When i was younger I was far more impulsive. Kitbashing the loco. shed has reminded me, again, of the importance of preplanning and trial construction! (I forgot to add the interior door from the loco. shed to the foreman's office, I did not think about an exterior door to the workshop large enough for equipment to pass through and to provide a fire exit.) I solved the problem of the lack of staff 'facilities' by designating an already constructed and painted wooden hut to provide them behind the workshop!

All the scratchbuilt buildings will have cardboard mockups made, first!

On my first N Gauge layout, I laid the surface for my goods yard BEFORE I had all the points installed (as a poor schoolboy, I could not buy everything at once and was impatient), lifting the goods yard surface and track to fit the missing point resulted in damage to the track and existing point . . . Trains ran but the point did NOT look good (the point rails were held in place by track pins!).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 12, 2014, 12:35:19 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 7 -- last day for a short while!) (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th pictures)

Sid the Surveyor approves the loco. shed staff facilities:

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A selection of (mainly) 1960s pictures, railway posters and official notices for brightening up the loco. shed interior! Remember this is the 1960s and an all-male adult environment! . . . Printed on normal (R/H) and photographic (L/H) paper.

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Loco. shed lower roof. The two unwanted end-pieces will make excellent transverse strengtheners, suitably trimmed:

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The lower shed roof with the extra fill-in sections added (with filler but before sanding and scribing):

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Loco. shed side walls after extra 'touch-up' painting and chosen entrance with filler added (but before sanding and painting, of course):

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Loco. shed workshop and office pieces after final painting with matt white wash over glossy cream:

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(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140812_111433_zpsd16985b5.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140812_111433_zpsd16985b5.jpg.html)

Equi-distant placing for strengthening pieces:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140812_112134_zps5e1d5b10.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140812_112134_zps5e1d5b10.jpg.html)

Cut-down pieces and side piece showing piece of match used as a joining spacer:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140812_112157_zpsa68b0795.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140812_112157_zpsa68b0795.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 12, 2014, 06:16:33 pm
Cant Cove Loco Shed (Day 7 -- last day for a short while!) (10th, 11th, 12th, 13th and 14th pictures)

Upper roof supports; need gluing and touch-up painting:

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Work benches and cupboard: first coat of thinned gloss leather paint, after second (also thinned) coat will be brushed with thinned matt mid-brown to age them and remove most of the gloss sheen:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140812_173815_zps8c5a2308.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140812_173815_zps8c5a2308.jpg.html)

Freshly overhauled at Penmayne depot and repainted at Cant Cove loco. shed, Castle Brewery beer cask wagon for Port Perran and Trepol Bay deliveries / collection of empties (the load is removable as the barrels are glued to a piece of transparent plastic):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140812_173845_zpsb1a5b9c7.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140812_173845_zpsb1a5b9c7.jpg.html)

Interior of loco. shed entrance after painting with gloss cream. Awaits a wash of matt white paint:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140812_175530_zpsb9e07452.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140812_175530_zpsb9e07452.jpg.html)

Last picture (for now), taken in artificial light and before 'dusting' the roof sections showing completed upper roof supports with roof sections alongside -- these had to be trimmed by a couple of mm at one end to reduce what would have been excessive overhang:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20140812_224928_zps503e6e41.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20140812_224928_zps503e6e41.jpg.html)

I hope these detailed descriptions and photos have been useful / inspiring to someone?

The loco. shed is close to being finished and, so far, I'm pretty happy with it. The basic Ratio shed kit is very similar to the (short) loco. shed which was at Bude which is a bonus!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on August 12, 2014, 06:39:37 pm
Sid seems happy with the work so far !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Candy Apple Head on August 12, 2014, 07:29:26 pm
Impressed with the industrial efficiency on display here!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 12, 2014, 08:40:18 pm
Sid seems happy with the work so far !

Yes, thanks, Martin. He's always reminding me: measure twice, cut once and always trial fit before gluing! I can now see why cardboard kits are so popular, they take much less time to build than plastic ones and don't need to be painted. I reckon the loco. shed is about 90% complete. Windows and doors need to be fitted before final assembly then 'touch-up' painting followed by final weathering.

I have given up hopes of finishing the road vehicles (I have plenty anyway) and have not tried painting any figures (again, I have more than enough). They will all be packed away for completion next summer break. Any remaining time this year will be used for scenic sections (the insulation boards), tracklaying and kit construction. If I still have any time after these, there's Cant Cove signalbox to scratchbuild, the platform shelter and, maybe a start on the main station building (but I doubt it). I might be able to make up the cardboard prototypes, though from the preprinted plans?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 21, 2014, 11:17:15 am
I'm now safely back in Prague after a very enjoyable short break in England where I was able to pick up some parcels of railway items and books and buy a few more items for painting and gluing (pictures soon) and had time to think over a few details for the loco. shed. With just over a week left, completing that is the target followed by some other Ratio kits.

Amongst the parcels picked up was one of three wagons which included a GIANT Lima BR Standard Brake Van!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 21, 2014, 07:37:14 pm
What I bought in England (1):

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Undercoat paint sprays from Halfords for BR Bauxite and BR Grey

Clips and magnet pairs from a street stall in Lymington. (I now wish that I had bought 2 pairs of each more.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 21, 2014, 07:40:32 pm
What I bought in England (2):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-21090032_zpsd19e2838.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-21090032_zpsd19e2838.jpg.html)

Super Glue and Cable Ties from Poundland.

Facemasks from Halfords for when I'm paint spraying. (Also I bought a tube of T-Cut.)

(The masking tapes I bought from a Chinese eBay supplier.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on August 21, 2014, 07:58:00 pm
Should keep you busy !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 21, 2014, 08:01:22 pm
Thanks, Martin. Although I'm already spending a lot of time on academic work, I hope to spray paint two ex-LNER brake vans and a SR box van in Halfords red this week. I also want to continue work on the loco. shed. I need to adjust the wooden roof slats as one end was wider than the rest (as the posted photo. shows).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: newportnobby on August 21, 2014, 09:18:18 pm
Careful with those clips, Chris :uneasy:
I bought a pack of 2 from Poundland and the springs are so strong I reckon they'll crush anything they latch onto, including fingers :worried:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on August 21, 2014, 09:27:13 pm
Careful with those clips, Chris :uneasy:
I bought a pack of 2 from Poundland and the springs are so strong I reckon they'll crush anything they latch onto, including fingers :worried:
Ouch >:(
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 21, 2014, 09:28:03 pm
Thanks, Nobby. The Poundland I visited in Winchester did not have any; I bought these on a market stall in Lymington. I tried them out, there, and whilst they are indeed strong, I don't think they will crush what I intend to use them for. For holding more delicate items together I have the little pairs of magnets and some other items given to me by a fellow railway modeller.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 22, 2014, 02:56:10 pm
My goodness that Halford's undercoat spray paint STINKS! I had my face mask on and all the windows in the flat open but STILL the smell lingers. The red paint does dry amazingly quickly and the results are indeed excellent; much better than painting with a brush. I painted the first of two Peco ex-LNER brake vans (for Trepol Bay) and an ex-SR box van bought cheaply on eBay. Pictures to follow. Now, I need to find the third ex-LNER brake van which will be also spraypainted red. I think this one I may have to do outside . . . I have now bid for another two vans: one in NE brown and one in LMSR grey to be resprayed BR Early Bauxite and BR Early Grey (with the Halford spray cans) respectively. My original painted BR Grey ex-LNER brake van will then be 'retired', if anyone wants it?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on August 22, 2014, 08:32:12 pm
Sorry to read about such smelly paint. Hope the fumes subside quickly. And thanks for the work on the Brake Van for Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 23, 2014, 10:15:01 am
Cant Cove Loco. Depot painters' busy weekend:

An ex-Southern Railway box van, as transferred (to become BR SR van for Penmayne and Cant Cove):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/GrahamFarishNGaugeSR10TTwinVentVanNo52783_zps0e9fa316.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/GrahamFarishNGaugeSR10TTwinVentVanNo52783_zps0e9fa316.jpg.html)

An ex-LMSR open wagon as transferred (to become duplicate of Castle Brewery open wagon (with removable cask load) for Port Perran and Trepol Bay):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/NGaugeFarishLMS5PlankWagon_zpsb613bb84.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/NGaugeFarishLMS5PlankWagon_zpsb613bb84.jpg.html)

Painting under way (matt black for underframes and silver for buffers still to be applied) on the ex-LNER brake van (for Trepol Bay) and the ex-SR box van (for Cant Cove & Penmayne):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-22153154_zpsf7881c40.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-22153154_zpsf7881c40.jpg.html)

Close-up of the ex-LNER brake van showing how the (BR Early Bauxite -- Halford's Red Plastic Primer) paint covers everywhere (excellent):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-22153201_zps91824c40.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-22153201_zps91824c40.jpg.html)

Close-up of the ex-SR box van:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-22153218_zps0723c884.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-22153218_zps0723c884.jpg.html)

Close-up of the ex-SR box van and the ex-LNER brake van (roof only loosely fitted), (side view):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-23081910_zps00fc9ca3.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-23081910_zps00fc9ca3.jpg.html)

I swapped the wheels around as the white-rimmed wheels were originally on the brake van and got spray painted whilst I had remembered to remove the goods van wheels! (I have plenty of spare wagon wheels so no painted rim wheels will be running!)

Close-up of the the ex-SR box van and the ex-LNER brake van (3/4's view):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-23081937_zps0ec29069.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-23081937_zps0ec29069.jpg.html)

Ex-LNER brake van and Castle Brewery open wagon (with removable cask load) for Port Perran and Trepol Bay (painting of brake van roof not finished):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-23082018_zps1e4c47f3.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-23082018_zps1e4c47f3.jpg.html)

Close-up of the ex-LNER brake van and the ex-SR box van (roofs temporarily removed):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-23083417_zps07909d60.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-23083417_zps07909d60.jpg.html)

Duplicate of Castle Brewery open wagon (with removable cask load) for Port Perran and Trepol Bay -- to allow 'through' running (after wagon's first coat of blue paint; was LMSR grey):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-23083628_zps6688af4a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-23083628_zps6688af4a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Bealman on August 23, 2014, 10:31:03 am
Careful with those clips, Chris :uneasy:
I bought a pack of 2 from Poundland and the springs are so strong I reckon they'll crush anything they latch onto, including fingers :worried:

Jimmy Nail's crocodile clips. (Old Viz mag joke)  ;D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 23, 2014, 07:32:55 pm
On the production line, today, were a series of lineside huts of various types and for various purposes (including weighbridge and coal merchants' office -- with different windows added as the Ratio kit buildings are identical) and the Cant Cove loco. shed (72G, [would have been 84E if the WR had taken it over instead of building a new diesel light maintenance depot at Penmayne, instead]) painters have had their matt black paints out on the wagons (and then the loco. shed noticeboards: 9.5mm high seems to be the standard for N Scale railway notice boards). Also the loco. shed clerestory has been rebuilt so that the sides are more parallel than they were. (The overhang on the top roof still looks as though it will be excessive though so I'm thinking of shortening the two roof halves further.) Tomorrow, 'silver' buffers and red buffer shanks -- a Cant Cove trademark -- for the repainted wagons and completing the huts. (Pictures to follow.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 24, 2014, 10:34:51 am
Yesterday's paint jobs:

Ex-LNER brake van and Castle Brewery wagon with removable load of casks (ropes to be added) for Port Perran and Trepol Bay plus ex-SR goods van. (Awaiting final painting details.):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-24083326_zps4d60ca5b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-24083326_zps4d60ca5b.jpg.html)

Ex-LNER brake van and Castle Brewery wagon with removable load of casks (ropes to be added) for Port Perran and Trepol Bay and duplicate for Cant Cove (to allow 'through trains'):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-24083412_zpsf335b10b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-24083412_zpsf335b10b.jpg.html)

Sid the Surveyor with parts of Cant Cove loco. depot with 1960s posters added on the walls including Terence Cuneo's Waterloo on the end wall, a 1960s pin-up (for the 'workshop boys'!) and Cuneo's Clapham Junction in the Shed Foreman's office:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-24085918_zps409daf64.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-24085918_zps409daf64.jpg.html)

Sid the Surveyor with parts of Cant Cove loco. depot with posters added on the walls including Terence Cuneo's Waterloo on the end wall, a 1960s pin-up (for the 'workshop boys'!) and a Southern Railway network map in the Shed Foreman's office:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-24085900_zps4633e849.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-24085900_zps4633e849.jpg.html)

Loco. shed clerestory roof complete showing where tiles have been replaced (painting not complete):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-24102921_zpsee2ed30d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-24102921_zpsee2ed30d.jpg.html)

Underside of clerestory roof showing 'bodge job' of middle supports (I'm hoping to, later, install LED lighting here):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-24102951_zpsdf31fa2d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-24102951_zpsdf31fa2d.jpg.html)

Clerestory roof showing realistic sagging (as the timbers aged), inspired by one of Martin's buildings at Port Perran:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-24103019_zps9c13bc17.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-24103019_zps9c13bc17.jpg.html)

The timber louvres have been repaired and freshly painted in SR gloss cream though by the local railway preservation society which bought the shed from BR. (Paintwork needs some final 'retouching' after all parts of the clerestory roof are complete.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on August 24, 2014, 02:17:52 pm
Keep up the good work. All looking remarkably good.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 24, 2014, 08:09:52 pm
Thanks, Martin. More pictures, tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 25, 2014, 10:15:32 pm
Another day of slow but steady progress in my last week before semester begins.

Two vans awaiting only gloss white lining (brake van) and red buffer shanks and black data panels (both):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-25084515_zps9d906423.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-25084515_zps9d906423.jpg.html)

Identical twin Castle Brewery open wagons with removeable cask loads for traffic to Port Perran (both awaiting red buffer shanks and black data panels plus ropes):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-25084541_zpsf9aa1fbf.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-25084541_zpsf9aa1fbf.jpg.html)

Newly weathered interior of weathered Castle Brewery open wagon (awaiting black data panels) plus completed coal staithes for Cant Cove station goods yard:

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Rear inside wall of loco shed with more added details:

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Cant Cove loco shed front and sides all checked for accurate fitting and similar colouring:

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Cant Cove loco shed front proudly bearing 72G shed code on 'weathered SR Green board' (this will be replaced by a painted plasticard board with the printed shed code glued onto it):

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Maybe Trepol Bay loco. shed would be 72H?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 26, 2014, 11:43:00 am
A couple more photo updates:

The fireplace and chimney for the loco shed workshop:

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(I did think about fitting a red LED fire but, as it is always early summer at Cant Cove . . . I'm not! 8-) )

Sid the Surveyor reminds me to check whether locos. can safely enter the loco. shed so summons a Bulleid Light Pacific from Wadebridge shed, especially!

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And the answer is . . . no. The plastic base that Ratio supplies for the shed to 'sit' on has to be used; I will have to adapt mine to suit.

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Sid the Surveyor is now happy as the base for Cant Cove loco. shed indeed provides sufficient vertical clearance. The Bulleid Light Pacific has now returned to Penmayne to work the 11:00 "Atlantic Coast Express" to Waterloo. (A crate of bottled Castle Brewery "Summer Ale" for the loco. crew and Penmayne's shedmaster -- to be consumed only after working hours -- were carefully secured on the tender!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on August 27, 2014, 09:57:59 pm
That unrebuilt bullied looks the part.
I'm sure one will eventually find it's way to Trepol Bay !!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 27, 2014, 10:11:33 pm
They are magnificent locos., indeed, Martin, and could be seen, in North Cornwall, hauling just two carriages, or a goods train, as well as the "Atlantic Coast Express"; so I'm sure Trepol Bay will see one, at least. 34064 "Fighter Command" is the only one I have here as it is DCC-fitted (after upgrading by Bob at BRLines, first), the others are all awaiting DCC fitting at Wickness Models. (I need quite a few for the full WTT.) A good friend also got for me the parts to upgrade them to a more realistic appearance (including new front bogies) but my model engineering skills are not up to that. However, as they come, the Graham Farish Bulleid Light Pacifics still look very good to my eyes and are a bargain. One is still slightly too long for my extended loco. shed though. It would have to be 8 bays not 7!

More pictures, tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 28, 2014, 08:22:28 am
Yesterday and today's updates:

The ex-LNER Brake Van and ex-SR box van with the completed loco. shed workshop chimney (built from  scrap materials left over from constructing the shed plus a Ratio chimney piece):

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Close-up of the ex-LNER Brake Van (just needs gloss white paint on handrails, today) and ex-SR box van

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-27170654_zps60d1ad3f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-27170654_zps60d1ad3f.jpg.html)

Close-up of original ex-LNER Brake Van with data panel painting under way:

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End wall of interior of loco. shed (showing signs of damp before the shed roof was repaired) with cupboard, official notice, blackboard and Southern Railway clock added:

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Interior of loco. shed workshop showing workbench with cupboards underneath:

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Interior of loco. shed workshop showing official notice, 1960s pinup and Southern Railway clock:

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Interior of shed manager's office showing Southern Railway route map poster and Southern Railway clock:

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Interior of shed manager's office showing Terence Cuneo poster of Clapham Junction:

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Completed two SR wooden huts for Cant Cove awaiting weatherboards, gutters and drainpipes:

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Completed loco. shed clerestory roof showing different tiles following repairs after the Cornish Locomotive Preservation Society bought the disused Cant Cove loco. shed from BR WR following the takeover of the former SR North Cornish lines:

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Modified loco. shed base to fit the available area:

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Completed rake of wagons for Cant Cove (and the duplicate for Port Perran) with Sid the Surveyor standing in the weathered Castle Brewery open wagon:

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Interior of loco. shed workshop with fireplace and chimney and work benches fitted (details designed to be seen through the two large side windows):

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(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-28093044_zpsbbafc8a5.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-28093044_zpsbbafc8a5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on August 28, 2014, 11:37:03 am
Certainly going for nice detail there Chris.
Looks good.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 28, 2014, 12:38:39 pm
Thanks, Martin. I'm still on track for completing the loco. shed by the end of this week and your ex-LNER Brake Van and the Castle Brewery open wagon (it just needs the 'ropes' adding).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 28, 2014, 08:10:52 pm
More slow but steady progress on the loco. shed building (had some problems with the windows) and some other buildings.

I remembered that I had a Peco brake van kit (bought for its chassis to be used with a shunter's truck kit) so have a spare replacement roof for the ex-LNER brake van for Trepol Bay which i can paint the correct dark grey shade.

More photos. tomorrow.

Had to stop work to read and grade some student theses. (I also sorted out some unwanted duplicate wagons which I will put on eBay.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on August 28, 2014, 08:35:35 pm
Looking forward to receiving our parcel Chris (no rush at all) and thanks for thinking about Mrs Port perran as well.
I'll send you some postage by Paypal in the next day or so.
I have received some harbour walling from Ebay which I'm very pleased with and also some Z scale track very kindly posted to me by John on the forum here which will allow me to complete my narrow gauge line on Trepol Bay. Will post some pictures eventually but I'm a bit busy at the moment to do much modelling :'(
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 29, 2014, 07:56:42 am
Thanks, Martin. £5 should cover the postage as the items are very light: two wagons and a tiny plastic box of new Preiser figures. I'm aiming to post them late Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday late morning.

I plan to do the white handrails on the two brake vans, today.

I also bought some plaster harbour walling (along with other items), last year, on Ebay, for Penmayne. (AS you know postage went up several times so it makes sense to stock what I know I will need).

I did think about buying some Z Gauge track for a narrow gauge 'forest line' (like in Slovakia) to a timber mill (German plastic kit I had my eye on) at Cant Cove but there simply is not room so the timber mill will be 'off stage' on the Castle Estate branch.

I look forward to seeing Trepol Bay develop. "Steam Trails: The Withered Arm" arrived this week with some excellent new (to me) photos including two old colour ones of Bude harbour and the tramway.

I need to tidy up everything as semester starts next week. I want to complete my loco. shed this weekend and a few Ratio plastic building kits before putting everything away. Scenic work on the layout has been postponed until next month when I will go with my landlord to buy the insulation sheets and he will help me cut and glue them to the baseboard. (I need to plan on the board where the sheets will go but I do have a scale plan on paper.) Tracklaying can then take place but will not be completed before the end of October, if not Christmas, as I'll have very little free time from now on. So I do understand about being too busy to do much railway modelling, alas! (I spent half a day, yesterday, on academic work and will have to do some more, this weekend.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 29, 2014, 10:16:30 pm
After recently visiting the Pilsener Urquell (Pilzenske Prazdroj in Czech) brewery in Pilsen (Plzen) and admiring the preserved steam loco. and Pilsener Urquell goods van, I felt I had to have a model of one. Alas, the only N Gauge model I could find is this one and, as Sid the Surveyor points out, it is out of gauge in its present form:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-29091211_zpse3357ba0.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-29091211_zpse3357ba0.jpg.html)

And I'm loathe to subject it to major surgery to remove the brakesman's hut and shorten the chassis.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 30, 2014, 09:30:45 am
Continuing progress on Cant Cove loco. shed:

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Red warning notices and fire hose cabinets added.

Workbenches and cupboards added to loco. shed workshop area:

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Cant Cove coal merchant's office (adapted from Ratio kit -- otherwise there would be three identical buildings):

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I found some Graham Farish metal spoked wagon wheels (from BRLines) and fitted them to the ex-SR van and they greatly improve its running (and looks):

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Prepared ex-LNER brake vans for painting white handrails (a time consuming and fiddly process; it is necessary to smooth down the masking tape as much as possible to create a barrier to the paint spreading where it should not -- I hope):

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The Cant Cove coal merchant's office front wall plus the next conversion project: an unwanted LMSR short wheelbase brake van body to the Cant Cove beach cafe building:

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Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 30, 2014, 09:46:01 am
Alas, the Cant Cove loco. shed painters had been at the bottled Castle Brewery Summer Ale before painting:

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I'll try to remove the surplus white paint from the right-hand van with a sharp knife. (I think the fact that the spray-paint left a much thinner coating enabled the paint to spread whilst on the grey van it, largely, did not). With the grey van, I can paint out the unwanted white with a cocktail stick end. However, i have no paint to match the spray-paint BR Early Bauxite so it may have to go to the Trepol Bay painters for remedial work. 8-(

Completed first side of Cant Cove loco. shed with the interior door to the shedmaster's office being also a fire exit it was painted red (needs a second thin coat of paint):

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Interior wall of loco. shed entrance -- needs another brush with matt white then some smoke staining added:

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Conversion of old brake van body to Cant Cove's beach cafe underway:

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Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 30, 2014, 10:22:29 am
Having sobered up, and not wanting the Trepol Bay painters to laugh at their efforts, the Cant Cove painters remedied their sloppy work:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-30111148_zpsd2a25fe5.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-30111148_zpsd2a25fe5.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-30111206_zpsee4fe651.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-30111206_zpsee4fe651.jpg.html)

Just a 'touch-up' with matt black and the rest of the white hand rails to go. 8-) (The roof for the right-hand van still needs a little more painting.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 30, 2014, 12:06:26 pm
Work on Cant Cove loco. shed continues:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-30125525_zps658da590.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-30125525_zps658da590.jpg.html)

After fitting the windows on the first side, the night before, the (now sober) painters have repainted the window alcoves. Meanwhile fitting of the windows on the second side has commenced -- two clamps are used to ensure that the window is firmly fixed to the side. (Unfortunately, the windows supplied in the later Ratio Engine Shed kit are white not cream -- the Cornish Loco. Preservation Society had to replace all but one window (the one furthest away) on the side of the shed which is facing the lane that runs past from the station to Cant Cove. (Even in Cant Cove, in the 1960s, there were vandals, I'm sorry to say.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on August 30, 2014, 04:55:41 pm
Maybe the Castle Summer Ale is a tad too strong !! :beers:
However whatever hangover remedy they used seems to have worked pretty well !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 30, 2014, 06:54:32 pm
I think it was the quantity the painters drank, Martin. 8-( However, the further painting is looking good. It should be finished, tomorrow.

I have just to mix up more SR Green to paint the lower interior loco. shed shed walls and then, after the paint is dry, I can glue it together. (The roofs will be removeable, though, so I can, later fit LED lighting.) Monday afternoon is the completion deadline.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 31, 2014, 12:03:33 pm
Work continues on Cant Cove loco. shed, the two ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake vans, and Cant Cove's beach cafe converted from a 'very old' brake van body.

The brake van body:

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The 'Wadebridge' ex-LNER brake vans prepared for more gloss white painting (VERY fiddly and time consuming):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-30184721_zps06cd11c1.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-30184721_zps06cd11c1.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-30184744_zps23bbbcea.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-30184744_zps23bbbcea.jpg.html)

The brake van body with grey undercoat on plasticard additions (showing the gloss blue paint to be used):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-31082055_zps304281cb.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-31082055_zps304281cb.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-31082108_zpsd1e59bca.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-31082108_zpsd1e59bca.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-31082142_zps972bbf10.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-31082142_zps972bbf10.jpg.html)

Besides being a good source of clear plastic for windows and bases for N Scale figures, plastic fruit containers provide good dust-free protection for items as the paint dries -- should have done this before):

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Close-ups of the contents:

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(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-31121354_zps9193bfa4.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-31121354_zps9193bfa4.jpg.html)

Those brake vans after Stage 2 of 3 of gloss white painting:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-31122142_zps6b66edb2.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-31122142_zps6b66edb2.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-08-31122209_zpsda0d39bd.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-08-31122209_zpsda0d39bd.jpg.html)

Pictures taken before trimming of surplus white gloss paint with a sharp knife -- more will be done after Stage 3 -- and, for the grey van for Cant Cove, 'touching up' of the matt black paint on the 'data panels' with the end of a cocktail stick!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 31, 2014, 04:59:10 pm
The full last day of railway modelling (this summer) continues.

Cant Cove loco. shed is now fully windowed. (Some panes are not 100% clean, however.) Some individual stones will be picked out in additional colours when I do the stone mineral tramway bridge sides, stone platform sides and some stone-built huts all in one future long session: colour by colour. (Using colour pictures of Bodmin General station building as a guide.)

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Lining tape applied inside ready for the application of gloss 'SR Green' I mixed up. (A wash of dark grey will be applied after it has fully dried.) The alcoves around the windows on one side will be painted matt white after the lining tape has been removed as I expect some 'touching up' may be necessary. (Ditto with my gloss 'SR Cream' on the other side.

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Those vans, again, after careful work with my sharp craft knife -- the trick is to push the vertical unwanted white paint towards the handrail (and a cocktail stick end with matt black on the grey van):

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From normal viewing distance they look fine. Just third and final stage to go: the vertical handrails and the horizontal bars to be done; plus some 'touching up' with gloss white using a cocktail stick end. Also 'BR Early Grey' paint on a cocktail stick end for the grey brake van around the black data panels and around the gloss white handrails when all have been finished. (All good practice for when I paint my half-finished 'Shark' brakevan for Cant Cove PWM dept.)

Cant Cove Cafe needs some 'touching up' with 'Castle Estate Blue' then some blackboards and advertising posters will be fixed to the sides.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on August 31, 2014, 06:43:02 pm
Good work today Chris.
No work on Port Perran or Trepol Bay as we had a long coastal walk today in glorious weather to Nare Point.
Did a little repair job on Mrs PP's layout earlier though which has been effective.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 31, 2014, 06:50:03 pm
Thanks, Martin. Here it is cold, grey and has been raining. Not good for going outside and the lack of heat means that gloss paint takes longer to dry.

The two ex-LNER brake vans should be finished tomorrow as will, I hope the retaining ropes for the stacks of casks. Cant Cove loco. shed should be, finally, assembled, tomorrow -- at least the body shell.

The plan is for the brake van and cask wagon to leave for 'Wadebridge', Tuesday, along with some farm animals for Mrs. PP!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 31, 2014, 09:25:55 pm
Cant Cove loco. shed walls, with bottom section now painted gloss 'SR Green', under a plastic cover, drying. Tomorrow, I plan to remove the masking tape edging and see what 'touching up' is required before gluing the walls together. (The roof will also be glued together but will be removable to allow, later LED lighting to be fitted and, maybe, the supporting roof beams [as in the former Bodmin General loco. shed].) Before assembly of the walls, more pictures will be added to the walls, also shelves and a first aid box plus a fire extinguisher box. (The second first aid box plus a fire extinguisher box along with another very small picture will be added to the loco. shed workshop walls.)

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N Scale copies of "The Cornishman" (well, front page) have been glued to a bench in the loco. shed workshop and the shed manager's office desk. 8-) (I had wanted "The Sporting Life" for the bench in the loco. shed workshop but could not find a suitable picture in Google Images! Not that anyone could possibly tell!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 31, 2014, 10:17:35 pm
Some cheap old N Gauge Graham Farish and Peco wagons should be on their way, via eBay, for cleaning and repainting in Castle Brewery (a van) and Castle Estate blues. Maybe also one or two for spraypainting in BR Early Bauxite?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 01, 2014, 03:01:48 pm
Continued progress towards completing the Cant Cove loco. shed plus the beer cask wagons and brake vans.

The loco. shed inner walls after the masking tape was removed and before 'touching up' (small cupboard and blackboard added outside the door to the shedmaster's office):

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Latest items being painted (cover temporarily removed):

Cant Cove cafe:

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With sign for Cant Cove coal merchant's office

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The latest brake van (bought cheaply on eBay -- note the strange tail light!) arrived, this morning, for conversion to another BR Early Bauxite one (to replace the one being transferred to Trepol Bay):

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The three ex-LNER brake vans (roof not fully fitted on bauxite van):

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After spraying with BR Early Bauxite (Halford's red undercoat):

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Making the retaining ropes for the beer cask loads:

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The three ex-works open Castle Brewery cask wagons with loads after retaining rope added:

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The first two brake vans after Stage 3 of painting with a cocktail stick dipped in gloss white paint. (After the paint has dried, I'll trim off -- with my sharp craft knife -- surplus paint then use a cocktail stick to 'touch up' the grey on the right-hand van.):

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Cant Cove loco. shed interior walls after 'touching up':

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Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 01, 2014, 08:55:14 pm
That tail light on the brakevan is certainly..........unusual !!  Are you sure it's not some form of rocket propulsion secretly trialled by the CME of the NE Railway  :D
I'd almost be tempted to keep it as a topic of conversation.  Similarly, when displaying Port Perran , I always had two LARGE (relatively) bright green  tortoises hidden somewhere. It was great to get the kids (old & young!) searching for them.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 01, 2014, 09:02:34 pm
I 'surgically' removed the tail light, Martin, without any great damage being done. If I ever display Cant Cove there will be a mermaid to find . . . (not very difficult as she'll be on a rock at the front). A unicorn, however, in amongst the trees that line the Castle Branch entrance is an idea! 8-)

Railway modelling is rapidly coming to an end for now as semester began today.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2014, 07:42:38 am
The morning pickup goods from Penmayne to Wadebridge, headed by 'Hymek' D7028 of Plymouth (Laira), after calling in at Cant Cove to pick up more wagons about to cross an inlet of the River Camel as it nears Wadebridge. The last two wagons (Castle Brewery open cask wagon and ex-LNER brake van) are to be then sent on the next goods train from Wadebridge to Port Perran and then tripped to Trepol Bay.

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From right to left, the first two wagons are empties from Penmayne returning to the LMR and ER, via Nine Elms, the third contains the famous 'Cornish Fisherman's jumpers from the Penmayne Fishermen's Wives' Co-operative for Nine Elms and sale in London, the fourth (insulated) van crabs from Penmayne, the sixth (Shocvan) crates of damaged beer bottles from the Castle Brewery going for recycling at a London glassworks, via Nine Elms, the seventh is an empty grain wagon returning from the Castle Brewery to East Anglia, via Nine Elms, and the last two are for Trepol Bay, as above.

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(And all the wagons, except the last two, of course, are for sale as they are duplicates of ones I already have.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 02, 2014, 07:45:11 am
Thanks Chris.
That's a very nice looking rake of wagons there.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2014, 07:57:26 am
Close-ups of the wagons and the very lightly weathered 'Hymek':

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(All wagons are brand new and come in their original boxes, except the Peco Grain wagon.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2014, 08:01:25 am
Thanks Chris.
That's a very nice looking rake of wagons there.

Thanks, Martin. Except for the last two, which are yours, the wagons are all for sale as they are duplicates. Maybe Trepol Bay needs an insulated van for fish traffic and an ex-LNER van (the first van from the right) for delivery of sacks of grain from East Anglia to the brewery? 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2014, 08:06:19 am
The Wadebridge yard master will telephone Port Perran as soon as the two wagons have arrived to inform Control at Port Perran when they will be leaving for onward transfer to Trepol Bay.

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Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2014, 04:25:08 pm
The Wadebridge yardmaster has confirmed the arrival of the two wagons for onward transfer to Trepol Bay via Port Perran.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2014, 09:08:15 pm
Only time to do some limited painting of small items including shelves and cupboards (as supplied in the Ratio kits) for Cant Cove loco. shed and small items for the Ratio small buildings such as the weighbridge and coal merchant's office buildings. I still need to dry brush the gloss 'SR Green' lower interior walls of the loco. shed with dark grey to remove most of the gloss. (When that is done and all the shelves, cupboards and ladders are done, I can, finally finish gluing the shed walls together!

Some second-hand open wagons and vans, bought on eBay, are on their way; I hope they will arrive next week for repainting in Cant Cove Estate and Castle Brewery liveries. Painting wagons is very relaxing!

Tomorrow, I need to put the surplus BR wagon rakes up on eBay.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 02, 2014, 10:28:17 pm
cant wait to see the loco shed. I was wondering what br wagons you got. I am thinking of turning Weaver Cove in the a ex GW line so running Class 22 maybe 35 and 52 Class 121 and class 122 as well. if they are clay wagons that you are selling I might be interested.
Jon
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2014, 10:53:58 pm
Thank you. The loco. shed is very close to final assembly. The two halves have been assembled. (Pictures, tomorrow.) Unfortunately, my china clay wagons (from Kernow Models) are not for sale.

If Weaver Cove is an ex-GWR line in the mid-1960s to early 1970s then some of the vans and wagons I have spare would be suitable for fertiliser traffic for the local farmers, calcified seaweed, parcels, etc. Maybe, even sea sand. (Send me a PM and I'll send you the details, tomorrow. I'd rather sell to a forum member than on eBay!)

A Class 22 with a BSK and a CK, and a Class 121 and Class 122 single diesel passenger unit would be good for local passenger traffic with the Class 22 also operating local goods trains. A Class 35 "Hymek" could handle through trains to Paddington and a Class 52 "Western" could appear on through trains at the height of the summer season.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 03, 2014, 07:57:36 am
Looking forward to seeing yet another Western scene develop.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 04, 2014, 04:11:54 pm
Managed to snatch a couple of hours for more small painting tasks (a pity I have to work as the weather is superb, warm and sunny -- ideal for painting!).

The two halves of the loco. shed -- still need brushing with matt white where I had to add more 'SR Cream' plus adding some more detailing items:

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The end of the loco. shed with the workshop:

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The red warning notice has since been 'touched up' with more gloss red (close-up pictures REALLY show any mistakes that need fixing!):

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Every North Cornwall railway station needs a lamp hut, this is one of an identical pair bought secondhand on eBay with my 'SR Gloss Green' carefully overpainted on the BR WR Brown. (Maybe the Green is now TOO light?):

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12 spare wagons (duplicates) I need to sell to make room for the secondhand old wagons and vans coming for repainting in Castle Estates and Castle Brewery liveries or early BR Bauxite or Grey:

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If I have time, tomorrow, I will photograph them as two goods trains: early 1960s stock behind my Graham Farish 57XX in BR Black and late 1960s stock behind my Class 14. (Both locos. have yet to be renumbered.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 04, 2014, 07:37:07 pm
Great little huts.
I think the green is fine and looks the part.
Keep up the good work but I guess the day job will now be taking over.
By the way, you'll need a lampman (is that the correct title?) - what will he be called ?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2014, 09:05:19 am
Thanks, Martin. I'm very pleased with the lamp huts: one for Cant Cove and one for the future Penmayne.

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to clear up this weekend and put everything away as I won't have time to work on the models from now on. The most I will be able to do is to complete some of the other part-finished Ratio kits. However, I do plan to complete the loco. shed as there is very little more left to do. This morning I've been working on the base for the loco. shed.

I have a lot of N Scale figures bought ready painted but no specific figure for a lampman. I do have a lot more figures which need painting but they must be left for another time, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 05, 2014, 09:10:44 am
Hi Chris. The lamp hunt looks great as dose the engine shed. Its a shame that you will be packing up for a while, but r/l commitments have a habit of cropping up and put your modelling on hold lol.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2014, 09:15:15 am
Hi Chris. The lamp hut looks great as does the engine shed. It's a shame that you will be packing up for a while, but r/l commitments have a habit of cropping up and put your modelling on hold lol.

Thank you for those kind words. Alas, yes, I need to dedicate my time to earning the money to pay for my railway modelling! 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2014, 05:51:43 pm
Well, a lot of this week, apart from teaching, was spent in meetings. SO Cant Cove loco. shed is still nearing completion.

The good news is that my PECO NB-56F Locomotive Inspection Pit Code 55 Rail N Gauge New Boxed, bought on eBay has arrived so I can fit that to the base for the shed. (I have a secondhand completed one but decided that nothing but the best should be fitted!) However, I'm still thinking that the pit is not deep enough for a N Scale man to stand upright in, so am thinking of cutting the supplied base out and lengthening the sides. (As the base will be mounted on a layer of insulating board forming the ground level on the baseboard -- representing sea level -- there should be enough space for a deeper inspection pit to be cut.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2014, 06:28:04 pm
I'm now thinking that I will make my own inspection pit (as I did on my original N Gauge layout) as I think it will look much better.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: smileyjon on September 05, 2014, 07:08:42 pm
Really nice work young man. . .  keep it up :wave:


Jon
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Mrs Port Perran on September 05, 2014, 07:31:17 pm
Yes, fab work Chris.

Just to let you know the parcel arrived safely today (quicker than expected) and the farmyard birds and animals will be perfect for my layout.  Many, many thanks, much appreciated.  I'm sure Mr PP (Martin) will write later when he's home from work.

 :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2014, 08:40:57 pm
Really nice work young man. . .  keep it up :wave:


Jon

Many thanks, Jon. I'm now trying to construct a plasticard base for the loco. shed tht will hide the join between the walls and the ground. (Photos tomorrow.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2014, 08:43:03 pm
Yes, fab work Chris.

Just to let you know the parcel arrived safely today (quicker than expected) and the farmyard birds and animals will be perfect for my layout.  Many, many thanks, much appreciated.  I'm sure Mr PP (Martin) will write later when he's home from work.

 :thankyousign:

That's great news that the parcel arrived so quickly and safely. I look forward to seeing the farmyard animals on your layout (and the wagons arriving at Port Perran -- from 'Wadebridge' and then being taken to Trepol Bay!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 05, 2014, 09:02:25 pm
Looking forward to seeing the inspection pit eventually.
As Mrs PP said, parcel arrived - no doubt you will see my Trepol Bay thread on this subject.
Many, many Thanks.
Martin
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2014, 09:12:59 pm
My great pleasure, Martin. I've decided to build my inspection pit for the loco. shed rather than use the Peco one.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2014, 09:17:32 pm
Please, post your two excellent photos of the new arrivals at Port Perran, here, too, Martin.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 05, 2014, 09:25:09 pm
No problem at all Chris.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 05, 2014, 09:29:57 pm
Chris has very kindly provided me with two beautifully detailed wagons (an open wagon with barrels of ale and an ex NE Brake Van) for Port Perran & Trepol Bay.
The pictures below show first a Class 22 with the two wagons (plus WR horsebox) about to depart Port Perran for Trepol Bay and also the very excellent detail that Chris has achieved :
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Many thanks Chris, excellent work indeed and they do look really good at Port Perran.
Martin
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2014, 09:58:04 pm
Many thanks, Martin. I'm delighted to see them arriving at Port Peran and look forward, in due course, to seeing them arrive at Trepol Bay. The open wagon is an ex-SR one painted in the Castle Brewery livery and is an exact duplicate of one I have at Cant Cove so we can run 'through' trains between our two Cornish layouts. (Eventually, I will make logos on boards to fix on the sides of the Castle Brewery wagons.)

The brake van is similar to the ex-LNER vans allocated to Wadebridge for use on the Wenfordbridge branch -- I have posted details earlier in this thread. I began with a handpainted (BR Early Grey) one then this (BR Early Bauxite) van for Martin for Trepol Bay (as a birthday present for him) and am making one for myself which is only in the spraypainted stage with matt black underframe only done. Detailing will follow as time allows.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2014, 10:10:17 pm
A corner of the loco. shed workshop showing the first aid box added. (There is a speck of dirt that had to be brushed off after I saw this photo.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-05082839_zps55253955.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-05082839_zps55253955.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2014, 10:13:00 pm
I decided to make a cardboard mask for spraypainting wagons with, in this case, Halford's Red Plastic Undercoat (BR Early Bauxite) without spraypainting the chassis, buffers and couplings! Of course, the colour is NOT pink; that is just due to the lighting. 8-)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-05183513_zps697446a4.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-05183513_zps697446a4.jpg.html)

This will be a similar ex-LNER brake van (as allocated to Wadebridge) as transferred to Trepol Bay (as shown above).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 06, 2014, 10:39:37 am
Work proceeds on the base for Cant Cove loco. shed. The idea is that the base and building will all be one unit, recessed as required into the layer of insulation board overlying the baseboard surface. (The roofs will be removable to allow future LED lighting to be fitted. The inspection pit will be built into the insulation board. I plan to light that, too, using fibre optic cables?)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-06083744_zpsebd6aa0d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-06083744_zpsebd6aa0d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 06, 2014, 08:51:16 pm
Are you sure that brake van isn't pink Chris ?
Only joking !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 06, 2014, 09:13:12 pm
Are you sure that brake van isn't pink Chris ?
Only joking !

It does, indeed look like it should belong to the Pink Panther but it's only because I did not take the picture in daylight, Martin.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 06, 2014, 09:15:12 pm
Maybe Lady Penelope has taken up a new post as the guard. With Parker to help her aboard of course.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 06, 2014, 09:17:00 pm
Well, Lady Penelope of Cant Castle does often entertain Gerry and Sylvia Anderson, Martin. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 06, 2014, 09:21:04 pm
Isn't Gerry dead ?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 06, 2014, 10:08:57 pm
Alas, yes, Martin, but in the 1960s he was very much alive. 8-)

Gerry Anderson, MBE (born Gerald Alexander Abrahams; 14 April 1929 – 26 December 2012) was an English television and film producer, director, writer and occasional voice artist. He was known for his futuristic television programmes, especially his 1960s productions filmed in "Supermarionation" (a process involving the use of modified marionette puppets). SOURCE: Wikipedia.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: smileyjon on September 06, 2014, 10:23:02 pm
Real men can do pink so why not railway wagons. . . . although I doubt if there has ever been a real pink one  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 06, 2014, 10:25:11 pm
I promised two pictures of goods trains from Penmayne and Cant Cove bound for Wadebridge:

First, with a Wadebridge 57XX at their head, a rake of early 1960s wagons:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-06105451_zps959dff3f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-06105451_zps959dff3f.jpg.html)

Second, with Penmayne's D95XX (later Class 14) -- to be renumbered D9501, at their head, a rake of late 1960s wagons:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-06110740_zps79a6a1ab.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-06110740_zps79a6a1ab.jpg.html)

All wagons except my Wadebridge BR Early Grey ex-LNER brake van are for sale (they are duplicates).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 06, 2014, 10:30:15 pm
Cant Cove's beach cafe:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-06120827_zps11d2cd55.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-06120827_zps11d2cd55.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-06120841_zps481953f3.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-06120841_zps481953f3.jpg.html)

Just needs the vertical hand rails painted gloss white and some 'Cornish Pixie' dairy ice cream (another wonderful product of the Castle Estates) logos adding. Also the sandy-coloured floorboards adding in the counter area and the wooden steps for the small customers on one side and the counter staff on the other.

I should post pictures of the ice cream seller, next. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 07, 2014, 12:52:31 pm
Work on the base for Cant Cove loco. shed continues:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-07083149_zps3c2a84d3.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-07083149_zps3c2a84d3.jpg.html)

I've adding edging and pavements to ensure that there won't be 'daylight' between the bottom of the shed and its base. Below, you can see all the pavements added, this morning, before painting them.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-07135526_zps6586cb5d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-07135526_zps6586cb5d.jpg.html)

The top right-hand edge will be supported by a shallow embankment; down below will be the sunken lane to Cant Cove, itself, from Station Road. However, the impecunious Wadebridge & Penmayne Railway kept land purchases to a minimum and, as a result,  the embankment in the top right-hand corner supporting the loco. shed was a little too steep so the pavement around the wall has slipped downwards slightly.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 07, 2014, 06:45:44 pm
I love the idea for a beach café.
If you don't mind, I may do something similar for Port Perran.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 07, 2014, 08:25:56 pm
I love the idea for a beach café.
If you don't mind, I may do something similar for Port Perran.

Please, do, Martin. I had the LMS brake van body kit spare as I had bought two separate kits to make an ex-GWR shunter's truck. I think it is a very good use for an old unwanted brake van body. 8-)

I will post more pictures, tomorrow as I've added a couple of details after checking with Sid the Surveyor!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Mrs Port Perran on September 08, 2014, 02:33:32 pm
Yes, the beach café is a beauty and will be a great addition to Cant Cove.

I'll buy a 99 off you Martin if you build one at Port Perran  :D

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 08, 2014, 02:54:17 pm
One of the final checks that all the parts of Cant Cove's loco. shed will fit together well:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-08090654_zpse0ee2083.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-08090654_zpse0ee2083.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 08, 2014, 02:55:53 pm
The base for Cant Cove loco. shed. Areas in brown will have rough grass glued on, after:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-08090726_zps2a07d2f3.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-08090726_zps2a07d2f3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 08, 2014, 02:59:21 pm
More wagons and containers after just being spraypainted BR Early Bauxite (Halford's Red Plastic Undercoat) -- and NOT pink:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-08092140_zps0c7f283d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-08092140_zps0c7f283d.jpg.html)

The one on the right was bought, cheaply, last year, on eBay and the buffers were not gluedo n properly, in fact one is missing. However, it will be a good example for when I make one -- it is a kit from the N Gauge Society, I believe.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 08, 2014, 03:02:39 pm
For Mr. and Mrs. Port Perran: Cant Cove's beach cafe after adding the sandy floorboards in the serving area and some concrete paving slaps making steps and a platform for the smaller customers to be able to see over the counter!

You can just about see the clear plastic super-glued as windows behind the serving area.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-08154053_zps7b5ea243.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-08154053_zps7b5ea243.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-08154113_zps034631f1.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-08154113_zps034631f1.jpg.html)

The dark grey 'granite' steps need 'touching up' with a lighter grey and some super fine Cornish sand (when I can get some) glueing around the bottom edges.

I will glue some more paving slabs in front to double the width and some on either side of the serving entrances, too. (Planned for tomorrow morning.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 08, 2014, 03:07:34 pm
Disaster time, my hurried attempt at spraypainting BR Early Grey (Halford's Grey Plastic Undercoat) resulted in FAR too much being spraypainted on the unpainted kit-built covered van which will, probably, have to have its body scrapped. (The unpainted van was bought for a couple of quid on eBay as part of a collection of wagons, so it's not too much of a loss.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-08154154_zps18d6ba15.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-08154154_zps18d6ba15.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-08154216_zps67b4dcf6.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-08154216_zps67b4dcf6.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-08154218_zps1e77a72d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-08154218_zps1e77a72d.jpg.html)

Would be good for a van covered in china clay dust, I suppose!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 08, 2014, 03:09:41 pm
Another cheaply bought secondhand wagon - an old Peco long wheelbase low-sider, that arrived, today, after spraypainting (from a strange metallic silver-grey colour):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-08154229_zpseec0cb46.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-08154229_zpseec0cb46.jpg.html)

I over sprayed the top decking but I can remove the worst of that with my craft knife once it is 100% dry.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 08, 2014, 03:14:50 pm
I have bought a number of cheap, secondhand covered vans to be repainted in Castle Estates and Castle Brewery liveries. This is the first one, it was in LMSR livery and looks almost brand new. After removing the white text, with a sharp craft knife and an old toothbrush with 'Jif' / 'Cif'; as an experiment, I lightly painted over the areas with a thin coat of dark grey. When it was dry, I very lightly rubbed the painted area with very fine sand paper to remove any areas that were too 'high' from the surface. Tomorrow, it will be painted Castle Brewery dark blue.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-08154254_zps657ea68d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-08154254_zps657ea68d.jpg.html)

When the other vans have arrived and, I hope, been successfully treated, I'll have a couple in Castle Brewery livery (maybe one will travel to Port Perran and Trepol Bay for the beer deliveries) and a couple in Castle Estates' livery.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 08, 2014, 08:50:20 pm
Is it just me?
I can't see any of the pictures you loaded today Chris, just a blank box !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 08, 2014, 08:54:11 pm
Is it just me?
I can't see any of the pictures you loaded today Chris, just a blank box !

Hi Martin, there may have been a problem earlier but I am seeing all the pictures present and correct.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Caz on September 08, 2014, 09:03:32 pm
Is it just me?
I can't see any of the pictures you loaded today Chris, just a blank box !

This often happens if members change the default album settings, if they are not tampered with then pictures should always display.   ;)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 08, 2014, 09:08:54 pm
Ah. All OK now so maybe it was just a glitch.
I love the detail on the beach café. We often visit the beach café at Maenporth Beach near Falmouth. That café is called Life's a Beach - might be a good name for your version.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 08, 2014, 09:24:07 pm
Thanks, Caz, Martin. I didn't change any of the album settings.

'Life's A Beach' is a great name but I think it will be simply called 'The Beach Cafe' when I get around to making all the signs and printing them, in colour, on photo quality paper in my new ink jet printer. Glad you like it. It was something I'd been thinking about for many months, originally for the small beach at Penmayne, almost as soon as I bought the Peco LMS 10-foot brake van kit with its unwanted body.

I have a full set of ice cream stall accessories (two old German sets bought on eBay Germany). I will post them when I get time to find and photograph them.

Alas, as semester progresses, I'm getting busier and busier so, very reluctantly, this weekend, I really must tidy up and put everything away.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 08, 2014, 09:50:38 pm
I've been VERY impressed with the difference that replacing old plastic wagon wheels with new metal ones makes, so I've bought 2 packs of Graham Farish 379-411 Wagon Wheels Spoked (x10 Axles) to refit all the old wagons I'm going to repaint / have repainted.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Mrs Port Perran on September 09, 2014, 07:42:53 am
Your Beach Café already sums up sea, sand and summer Chris.  Looking forward very much to seeing it finished and in situ.  Very creative!  :)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 09, 2014, 08:08:21 am
Many thanks, Mrs PP. I have been thinking out all the scenic details (what I enjoy best) for Cant Cove for many months. There will be a scout camp and a nudist beach (an interesting juxtaposition!) a sunken wooden boat in the centre of the cove, a pair of Weeping Willows (bought) where the stream enters the cove, a caravan or too and a surfers' VW minibus plus a 1940s Ford Woody with surf boards with two surfers, one with his board. One of the surfer's being Lady Penelope's daughter.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Mrs Port Perran on September 09, 2014, 08:48:35 am
I'm beginning to see that the 'thinking and planning' stage can be important - and enjoyable too.  The sunken boat will be a great feature and I like the idea of a surfing scene.  Will they have the original old-style wooden body boards as used by surfers at the annual Wold Bellyboarding Championships held near us at Chapel Porth?  This year's event took place last weekend.

We own a 1973 VW camper and love buying models of them.  I'm going to have a bay window panel van on my farm, just like the one my Dad used to have  :)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 09, 2014, 09:02:50 am
Yes, indeed, the thinking and planning stage is very enjoyable and can save making mistakes later. Yes, the surfboards are the old wooden ones. I think my model VW vans are early 1970s rather than 1960s models (which is my modelled period) but, in N Scale, the difference is not so noticeable as it would be in larger scales. I bought enough 'beach items' for both Cant Cove and Penmayne as prices will only go up and some items may no longer be available in future?

Having a bay window panel van on your farm, just like the one your Dad used to have, is a lovely idea. I'd like to have a N Scale model of all the 1960s cars my father owned. I'm also buying some of the old N Gauge models I had 30 years ago! 
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: daveg on September 09, 2014, 09:58:33 am
I've been VERY impressed with the difference that replacing old plastic wagon wheels with new metal ones makes, so I've bought 2 packs of Graham Farish 379-411 Wagon Wheels Spoked (x10 Axles) to refit all the old wagons I'm going to repaint / have repainted.

Agree with you, Chris.

Did that swap with a dozen or so early GF wagons I bought earlier in the year. They really improve the appearance and running.

Hope the new 'term' goes well and you get at least some time between now and Christmas to build a few more of your kits.

Dave G
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 09, 2014, 10:06:26 am
Thanks, Dave. I had a pack of metal disc wheels bought in a job lot and tried them out on my repainted ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake van (i did not want to use the original white-rimmed plastic wheels) and, as you write, they really improve the appearance and running. So, all my old Graham Farish wagons will get new, metal but spoked wheel replacements.

I have several few Ratio kits (loco. servicing depot, cattle dock) with all the parts painted that I could assemble if I get any free time but, realistically, it will be the Christmas break before I am able to. If I can complete the loco. shed and all the little sheds and huts (they need weather boards, gutters and drainpipes fitting) this weekend, I'll be very happy.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 09, 2014, 01:00:51 pm
For Mrs. PP; one of the items bought for Cant cove itself and part-painted by me:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-09124115_zps3a9ab3fa.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-09124115_zps3a9ab3fa.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-09124123_zps632e6849.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-09124123_zps632e6849.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-09124151_zpsb1c4dd1e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-09124151_zpsb1c4dd1e.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-09124202_zps20f5d052.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-09124202_zps20f5d052.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 09, 2014, 01:02:45 pm
More wagon repainting under way:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-09124248_zpsff78fb9f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-09124248_zpsff78fb9f.jpg.html)

Included are two ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake vans and the first covered van in Castle Brewery livery (first coat of paint).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 09, 2014, 01:08:05 pm
For Mr. and Mrs. Port Perran, "The Beach Cafe", Cant Cove, is nearly complete:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-09131249_zps1c36275d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-09131249_zps1c36275d.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-09131304_zpsf52a11ab.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-09131304_zpsf52a11ab.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-09131759_zps62e3229f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-09131759_zps62e3229f.jpg.html)

A similar but taller, name board will be fixed along the top of the roof. (This one is for the Coal Merchant's office.)

The wagon body and pavement slabs are all glued (mainly superglue) on a piece of paper. Matt sand will then be painted around the van body and paving slabs. Real sand will be added, later. A small stone retaining wall (I had a scrap piece just the right size) has been stuck behind the van body to hold back the earth (and resultant damp) into which the van body will be slightly recessed.

The paving slabs need to be 'weathered' to match the original ones added, yesterday.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 09, 2014, 01:26:08 pm
Martin, if you also want a similar ex-LMSR 10-foot brake van body (free) to convert into your beach cafe for Trepol Bay, I should be receiving an unwanted one with some more secondhand wagons, soon. I will carefully remove the body from the chassis, I hope, and then post it off to you.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/LMSRBrakeVan_zps5d61976f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/LMSRBrakeVan_zps5d61976f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 09, 2014, 02:52:43 pm
That would be most kind Chris, Thank you.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 12, 2014, 05:19:03 pm
A day off work, today so I was able to work on the final details for the loco. shed and paint some of the secondhand wagons I recently bought. Here are three vans, from the right, a Castle Brewery van (needs another coat of blue, the roof painted and detailed painting), a second Castle Brewery van (has received two coats of blue, needs detailed painting before departing for Port Perran and Trepol Bay for brewery deliveries), and the first Castle Estates van (needs another coat of the lighter blue and detailed painting).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-12165818_zpsa2ae9bf1.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-12165818_zpsa2ae9bf1.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-12165833_zpsc9aa5073.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-12165833_zpsc9aa5073.jpg.html)

It's much easier to paint grey wagons. The two Castle Brewery vans were grey: one bought in dark grey livery, the kit-built one was sprayed in light grey. (It's the 'disaster' one; I was able to scrape off, with my trusty craft knife / file -- on the roof -- the surplus dried grey paint.) The third van was bought in dark brown livery. The two non-kit built vans had their white text removed in my normal way with a sharp craft knife and then a toothbrush dipped in 'Cif' before washing and drying.

The two flat wagons, painted and weathered, need some slight detailed painting (will post better pictures, tomorrow, I hope we will get some sunshine as it was overcast when I took these pictures):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-12170023_zpsedc65257.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-12170023_zpsedc65257.jpg.html)

All wagons have had their wheels removed during painting. Metal spoked wheels will, ultimately, be fitted for smoother running and better appearance. The first flat wagon was bought on eBay as part of a job lot and has fixed couplings and some missing buffers / badly glued buffer shanks; it will probably be withdrawn from service or used for a wagon that came off the rails and was damaged when a train derailed.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: smileyjon on September 12, 2014, 07:14:49 pm
I love those spoked wheels, I'll have to go find some !

any recommendations old chap ?

Oh, nice workmanship by the way  :thumbsup:

Jon  :wave:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 12, 2014, 07:19:21 pm
Many thanks, John. I ordered on eBay: 2 packs of Graham Farish 379-411 Wagon Wheels Spoked (x10 Axles) from Modelscape:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321489460465?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321489460465?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 12, 2014, 07:22:09 pm
The right-hand van has damaged couplers. I do have replacement ones but I don't know how to fit them. The van is an old Peco one with the upside down U-shaped coupling holders.

Now that the paint has dried, I can see by turning it over, that the body of the kit-built van is fixed to the chassis by two screws which, IF I could remove them, would enable me to replace the couplings . . .
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 12, 2014, 07:26:16 pm
Am now working on completing "The Beach Cafe", Cant Cove, except for the actual name to glue on the signboards. Pictures to follow. Also to follow, pictures of the completed loco. shed interior before I glue the two halves together and place it on its base.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 12, 2014, 08:11:48 pm
Keep modelling whilst you still have the time before Academic work take over.
Looking forward to more pictures.
Not sure if I'll get much done this weekend. We have the Cornish Pasty Festival in Redruth to attend tomorrow !
Mustn't sample too many !!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 12, 2014, 08:23:51 pm
Thanks, Martin. I love real Cornish Pasties. Alas, they are impossible to buy here. Hope the weather keeps fine for you.

I can do some modelling and painting and, inbetween, whilst I'm waiting for glue or paint to dry, answer academic emails but, very soon, I will have student assignments to work on and that will leave me with virtually no free time for Cant Cove.

The interior detailing of the loco. shed is almost finished and I have measured out the tiled roof for the workshop extension ready to cut it out tomorrow. I will need to make and paint a lot of the V-shaped wooden roof ends (I forget the architectural term for them) for the small buildings and the roofs for the workshop and the shedmaster's office. I also have all the gutters and downpipes (I have a big selection ready painted) to fit.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: CarriageShed on September 12, 2014, 10:40:12 pm
A day off work, today so I was able to work on the final details for the loco. shed and paint some of the secondhand wagons I recently bought. Here are three vans, from the right, a Castle Brewery van (needs another coat of blue, the roof painted and detailed painting), a second Castle Brewery van (has received two coats of blue, needs detailed painting before departing for Port Perran and Trepol Bay for brewery deliveries), and the first Castle Estates van (needs another coat of the lighter blue and detailed painting).

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-12165818_zpsa2ae9bf1.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-12165818_zpsa2ae9bf1.jpg.html[/url])


I'd be itching to give those freshly painted wagons a nice wash of black, followed by a wash of frame dirt and then a drybrushing of a bit more frame dirt...
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 12, 2014, 10:49:43 pm
Thanks, Pete. The two flat wagons were weathered with dirty black and, when I paint more vans, most will be weathered in varying stages. However, the Castle Brewery and Castle Estates vans include some ex-works examples used for the goods traffic with Port Perran and Trepol Bay! 8-)

I will post pictures of my weathered wagons if we have some sun, tomorrow. The underframe of my first (grey) 'Wadebridge' ex-LNER brake van was weathered and so will be my two brown ones.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 14, 2014, 11:59:41 am
I'm still fiddling around with "The Beach Cafe" (Sid the Surveyor said that a skylight would be good in the roof as, otherwise, the interior would be too dark) and the details for the loco. shed interior including a bufferstop -- I had to scrap the first attempt as it did not look good.) No photos., yet, as it is very overcast, here.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 14, 2014, 04:49:56 pm
I think Sid is right.
When I'm having a cup of coffee, I like to be able to see it !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 14, 2014, 05:53:59 pm
Whilst the shutters at the end of the cafe could also be opened, a skylight is definitely a good idea and has now been fitted. I hope, tomorrow, we'll have some sun so that I can take some pictures. The cafe's large roof sign has also been finished (minus the lettering).

The shelves for fitting inside the loco. shed have been finished. The roof for the workshop has nearly been finished. The coal merchant's office has been finished and the weighbridge office is also nearly finished. The bufferstop in the loco. shed now looks much better but still has to have the bufferbeam painted in SR white with a thin horizontal stripe added. I'm thinking of painting it white then, when its dry, adding masking tape strips and painting the red line on top.

The vans are nearly finished. The Castle Estates' van will be weathered as, after two coats of paler blue, some of the underlying brown is still faintly visible. A wash of dirt should hide that. The wagons need the buffer ends painting silver as do the vans'. The vans which are ex-works will also have the buffer painted red. The weathered wagons will not have any red.

I managed to get academic work done inbetween waiting for models to dry. Some a productive afternoon.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 14, 2014, 06:01:32 pm
A busy afternoon. Looking forward to photos.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 15, 2014, 10:19:20 am
Some quick photo updates (comments to be added):

34064 on loco. shed base with Mark II bufferstop and Sid the Surveyor:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-15091035_zpse16045e9.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-15091035_zpse16045e9.jpg.html)

You can see the small brown area - to be grassed - that forms part of the edging of the loco. shed.

34064 inside loco. shed:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-15091253_zpsa67728bf.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-15091253_zpsa67728bf.jpg.html)

Mark II bufferstop in place but still needing 'cosmetic' work:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-15093540_zpsae64084d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-15093540_zpsae64084d.jpg.html)

3 wagon bodies after two coats of paint awaiting detailed painting and weathering (especially the ecentr van in Castle Estate livery):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-15093648_zps38626fae.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-15093648_zps38626fae.jpg.html)

Weathered flat wagon on loco. shed base with coal merchant's office (the name on the board will be added later):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-15093728_zpsa3ccfe4d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-15093728_zpsa3ccfe4d.jpg.html)

Roof for cafe with skylight aperture (but before fitting the 'glass' on top and filling and filing):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-15093827_zpsfb317bb6.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-15093827_zpsfb317bb6.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-15093914_zpse5621e65.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-15093914_zpse5621e65.jpg.html)

Loco. shed interiors finished except for fitting of shelves:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-15094009_zps2a0b03ff.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-15094009_zps2a0b03ff.jpg.html)

Workshop with doors fitted and roof (flashing will be added around the chimney but the roofs have to be removable to allow lighting to be fitted, later):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-15094123_zps5d427219.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-15094123_zps5d427219.jpg.html)

Front of loco. shed manager's office:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-15094226_zps50f7a72c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-15094226_zps50f7a72c.jpg.html)

Lineside buildings (1 and 2), detailing (especially guttering and downpipes) still to be added:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-15094338_zpsa30cc780.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-15094338_zpsa30cc780.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-15094500_zps56b3f379.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-15094500_zps56b3f379.jpg.html)

I have not added the bases to the Ratio concrete huts as I don't know if these buildings had such concrete bases in real life?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: mika on September 15, 2014, 11:32:43 am
Chris,

your loco shed interior looks great. Interior deteailing is something I should have thought of before building my loco shed for Zinnroda... :-[

Anyway, yours looks brilliant and you can be more than pleased with it. :admiration:

Michael
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 15, 2014, 11:36:59 am
Great detailing Chris.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Mrs Port Perran on September 15, 2014, 12:50:04 pm
Brilliant Chris!  :)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 15, 2014, 12:58:58 pm
Hi Chris that is outstanding. The attention  to detail is first class.
Jon
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: smileyjon on September 15, 2014, 06:31:47 pm
Nice stuff Chris . . . as they say, keep it up  :P
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: johnlambert on September 16, 2014, 07:46:45 am
Hi Chris.  Did you say one of your Peco wagons had a damaged coupling?  The way the wagons are constructed means that undoing the two nuts on the underside of the wagon will allow you to separate the van body from the underframe and the couplings are held in place between the two.

I've probably got a couple of spare Peco couplers from wagons I've converted to NEM pockets, if you need a couple of spares I could post them over to you.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2014, 07:51:22 am
Hi Chris.  Did you say one of your Peco wagons had a damaged coupling?  The way the wagons are constructed means that undoing the two nuts on the underside of the wagon will allow you to separate the van body from the underframe and the couplings are held in place between the two.

I've probably got a couple of spare Peco couplers from wagons I've converted to NEM pockets, if you need a couple of spares I could post them over to you.

Thanks, John. Yes, that's correct. What was wondering is what to use to undo the nuts? I do have plenty of spare couplings, but thanks for your kind offer. (I have some springs, too.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: johnlambert on September 16, 2014, 08:12:01 am
A pair of fine pliers should allow you to grip the nut to undo it - it will be slow and fiddly but it should work.  Or you can buy a tool for the job; Expo tools sell them, I think they're called nut spinners.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2014, 08:13:35 am
Thanks, John, for your quick reply. I have a pair of pliers and will try those, first.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2014, 10:08:46 am
Chris,

your loco shed interior looks great. Interior deteailing is something I should have thought of before building my loco shed for Zinnroda... :-[

Anyway, yours looks brilliant and you can be more than pleased with it. :admiration:

Michael

Many thanks, Michael. It's been very time consuming but, as I plan to later fit interior lighting, I think the interior detailing is worth the time and effort. I've tried to model the shed as it would be in the mid-1960s after a loco. preservation society has taken it over and renovated it for their use after it having been abandoned for many years.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2014, 10:09:43 am
Great detailing Chris.

Thanks, Martin. I have enjoyed doing it.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2014, 10:11:02 am
Brilliant Chris!  :)

Thank you, Mrs. PP. It's been great fun but now I have less and less time for railway modelling.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2014, 10:12:58 am
Hi Chris that is outstanding. The attention  to detail is first class.
Jon

Many thanks, John. I was originally inspired by a picture of the interior of Bodmin General loco. shed., as I've described earlier on this thread.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2014, 10:14:24 am
Nice stuff Chris . . . as they say, keep it up  :P

Many thanks, Jon. Alas work is severely limiting my free time for railway modelling for the next few months.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2014, 10:16:54 am
A beautiful sunny day, here, today. I have a seminar, this afternoon, but I hope to paint the bufferstop, paint more of the wagons, finish the cafe skylight and, maybe, add the shelves to the loco. shed.

More photos. to follow.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2014, 07:11:22 pm
Just a couple of quick update pictures, today. The replacement packs of metal spoked wheels have arrived to replace the old all-plastic wheels on my wagons.

I decided not to weather the newer BR type vans as I now have two older type vans: one painted in Castle Brewery and one in Castle Estate livery this morning and weathered this afternoon. (Photos will be posted soon.) Alas, the van body of one of the BR vans has three of the four end vertical metal frames missing where they project downwards beyond the solebar so I will have to buy a kit to replace it and use the body instead as a grounded store (which will mean repainting it in BR brown livery). However, I was able to remove the nuts holding the body with the pliers shown in the pictures below and can fit a replacement coupling.

I have also painted the loco. shed bufferstop gloss white after a not very successful attempt to mask off a horizontal line to be painted gloss red, later. I have also fitted the 'skylight' in the cafe roof and, since these two pictures were taken, have repainted the cafe roof and painted the vans' roofs. I also painted the handrails at the serving counter end (which will need to be tidied up once the paint is 100% dry). The large roof sign (in the picture) is ready to be glued to the roof.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-16133232_zpse44e5cdf.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-16133232_zpse44e5cdf.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-16133248_zpsf3f4128f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-16133248_zpsf3f4128f.jpg.html)

Finally, on the three ex-works vans, I painted the buffer areas gloss red. Silver for the buffers will be added, later. Maybe, tomorrow afternoon?

I need to find some suitably naturally coloured herbal tea for the unkempt grassy areas around the loco. shed! (Inspired by Juliaberg.)

Now, I have to begin on student assignments.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 16, 2014, 07:16:59 pm
Bet you pop on here for a peek between assignments !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2014, 07:19:09 pm
That I do, Martin, to give my brain a 'refresh'! 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: mika on September 16, 2014, 07:41:41 pm
That I do, Martin, to give my brain a 'refresh'! 8-)

 :laugh3: I do that, as well.  :NGF:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 17, 2014, 07:34:10 pm
Not much to report as my time is very limited and I got back home too late to take any pictures: finished painting the reliveried four vans (apart from the underframe on one), painted more details on the two ex-LNER brake vans and the loco. shed buffer stop which still needs some 'touching up'. The shelves for the loco. shed still need some 'touching up' as does the shedmaster's office window. The brake van body cafe needs the roof sign gluing on. With luck, this weekend, all will be finished. However, I have some more wagons (mainly wooden open ones) coming for relivering in Castle Estate livery, very therapeutic. Some will be weathered. But no major work (scenic sections, tracklaying) I'm afraid.

I even doubt whether I will get time to complete the other Ratio kits or the two KESTREL DESIGNS kits that have come: KD 20 COAL OFFICE, (will be for Penmayne if I don't decide to swap it for the Ratio one I have already made) and KESTREL DESIGNS KD24 WATER TOWER which looks a lot like the one at Bude, (Martin). If I don't use it at Cant Cove (there may not be room), it will also be stored for Penmayne. However, I plan to replace the brick walls for these two Kestrel kits with stone ones for Cant Cove. I also got (in the same lot) two packs of RATIO MODELS 311 DOORS (ideal for scratchbuilding and replacing the poor Kestrel ones) to go with my Ratio windows packs: RATIO 309 INDUSTRIAL WINDOWS (Brass) and RATIO 310 DOMESTIC WINDOWS (Brass), (again, ideal for scratchbuilding and replacing the poor Kestrel ones).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 17, 2014, 08:12:33 pm
Don't rush anything Chris. Just do what modelling when you can as time permits.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 17, 2014, 08:20:09 pm
Thanks, Martin. I have meetings, tomorrow from 8AM and will be teaching till 9PM and I'm out most of Friday, too; so nothing more will be done before Saturday.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 19, 2014, 06:49:54 am
Well, I survived the longest day. This weekend the student assignments grading begins. In between, for a break, I'll try to finish the outstanding tasks and take some pictures. I'll also wash, dry and spraypaint with Tamiya matt grey undercoat, when I can, my new KESTREL DESIGNS kits and the RATIO brass windows.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 19, 2014, 08:48:41 am
Some quick pictures before I go out for the day:

Cant Cove loco. shed buffer stop (modified Peco buffer beam) after initial painting in SR style; white paint needs 'touching up' to make the red central line straighter and a more equal width:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-19091937_zps35c69f42.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-19091937_zps35c69f42.jpg.html)

Most of the repainted wagons (some without wheels as the underframes still need painting; if possible, the new all metal Graham Farish spoked wheels will be fitted to the vans):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-19092118_zps18413bf3.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-19092118_zps18413bf3.jpg.html)

The two central vans are ex-works and in Castle Brewery (one of a pair, this one for traffic to Port Perran and Trepol Bay) and Castle Estates liveries, followed by older design lightly weathered vans -- no rust added, yet.

The shelves for fitting inside the loco. shed:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-19092314_zps50c35706.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-19092314_zps50c35706.jpg.html)

The painted weighbridge for Cant Cove goods yard:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-19092327_zpsa4cb5338.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-19092327_zpsa4cb5338.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 19, 2014, 09:02:07 am
As ever, great attention to detail Chris.
I know you won't be happy with the bufferstop but I find that the camera greatly exaggerates small imperfections. I expect that with the naked eye the red strip looks fine !
It will need a very steady hand to get that straight so  best do it before you sample the products of the Castle Brewery.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 19, 2014, 09:14:57 am
Thanks, Martin. I think I can 'tidy up' the white around the central red line a bit in daylight and, as you write, with a steady hand!

The far right-hand van needs some repainting as the area where the GW logo was shows through. (I didn't paint a patch of dark grey undercoat on it as I had with the other vans).

The first of my three rakes of duplicate numbered wagons on eBay has a bidder. (I need to make room for my new wagons!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 19, 2014, 09:16:25 am
Looking great Chris as always.  :bounce:  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 19, 2014, 09:17:48 am
Thanks, Jon. Progress from now until Christmas will be very limited.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 19, 2014, 09:24:25 am
Thanks, Jon. Progress from now until Christmas will be very limited.

Well its not that long until Christmas lol only 96 days  :worried:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: smileyjon on September 19, 2014, 02:57:26 pm
Stunning attention to detail Chris.  Well done  :no:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 19, 2014, 05:55:39 pm
Hi Jon,

Many thanks. Inbetween academic work I hope to get a few little jobs done.

A lot of secondhand wagons arrived today; some are for repainting in Castle Estates livery (some will be weathered, too), such simple painting is always relaxing.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 19, 2014, 07:47:37 pm
I'm sure that little jobs will be done fairly regularly. Do keep the pictures flowing.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 19, 2014, 08:01:51 pm
Thanks, Martin. I will do so. Unfortunately, I'm still waiting for some wagons, including the LMSR short wheelbase brake van for the beach cafe at Trepol Bay. I hope that it will arrive, next week. The Castle Brewery covered van is ready and waiting to be sent off with the brakevan body on a flat wagon to 'Wadebridge' for onward transfer to Port Perran and Trepol Bay. The yardmaster at Wadebridge will telephone his counterpart at Trepol Bay to have a crane and a lorry ready to transport the brakevan body to its final location!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 19, 2014, 08:08:41 pm
Thank you. No hurry because as you know the staff at Port perran will be away for a few days next week.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 19, 2014, 08:16:44 pm
Yes, Martin, it will take a week to get a suitable crane to Trepol Bay to offload the brakevan body, the Wadebridge yardmaster has since been informed so the two wagons won't leave, now, until the Friday goods to Wadebridge from Penmayne, calling at Cant Cove.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 19, 2014, 08:19:06 pm
My landlord is eager to buy some insulation board and try out cutting, shaping and gluing a section on the baseboard so I may have some progress on that earlier than I expected! The first layer forming the trackbed would be a very good start. It stretches from the beach along the edge of the River Camel to the backscene with cutouts for Cant Cove itself and the hidden fiddle sidings.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 19, 2014, 08:48:01 pm
My landlord is eager to buy some insulation board and try out cutting, shaping and gluing a section on the baseboard so I may have some progress on that earlier than I expected! The first layer forming the trackbed would be a very good start. It stretches from the beach along the edge of the River Camel to the backscene with cutouts for Cant Cove itself and the hidden fiddle sidings.
Looking forward to seeing this, and good news that it will be sooner  than expected. Academic Work will have to take a back seat (only joking).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 19, 2014, 08:52:52 pm
My landlord is eager to buy some insulation board and try out cutting, shaping and gluing a section on the baseboard so I may have some progress on that earlier than I expected! The first layer forming the trackbed would be a very good start. It stretches from the beach along the edge of the River Camel to the backscene with cutouts for Cant Cove itself and the hidden fiddle sidings.
Looking forward to seeing this, and good news that it will be sooner  than expected. Academic Work will have to take a back seat (only joking).

It should be next week that we will go, one morning, to buy a trial piece and try out the cutting device, Martin. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 19, 2014, 09:00:53 pm
Great news Chris. Well I'm sure you can mix both modelling and your coursework.  :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on September 19, 2014, 09:08:13 pm
What's a bit of paint on the paperwork between friends  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 19, 2014, 09:31:06 pm
I need a break between each assignment so I can do some painting put the model under a plastic cover or gluing and leave it to dry whilst i get on with my work. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 20, 2014, 08:40:40 pm
Some more quick photos:

The secondhand wagons I recently received (including a nice fish van which will be painted in Halford's red undercoat as an Early BR Bauxite one -- I hope prototypically -- I like unusual wagons and a fish van is very appropriate for Penmayne so it will be seen in goods trains passing through Cant Cove).

After removing most of the text (the last of the text on the brake van was removed, this evening):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-20073255_zps1d270eb0.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-20073255_zps1d270eb0.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-20073305_zps4104868a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-20073305_zps4104868a.jpg.html)

The orange wagons will be spraypainted Halford's red plastic undercoat as Early BR Bauxite. The other wagons, apart from the fish van and brake van, of course, will be painted Castle Estates blue; I hope, tomorrow.

Yes, yet another ex-LNER short wheelbase brake van; this one will be spraypainted grey (Tamiya Grey Undercoat) for a change. That means I will have my original grey (painted) 'Wadebridge' ex-LNER brake van surplus to requirements.

Two mineral wagons, one of which that I'm not sure I want to keep (if anyone is interested in the dark grey one?):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-20073331_zps65e6af27.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-20073331_zps65e6af27.jpg.html)

The two Kestrel kits and Ratio doors kits I won as an item on eBay recently for an excellent price plus my two Ratio brass window kits (which I also mentioned):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-20073416_zps5c3b2c82.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-20073416_zps5c3b2c82.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-20073441_zps59963d70.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-20073441_zps59963d70.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-20073449_zpsef0ef027.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-20073449_zpsef0ef027.jpg.html)

With Ratio gutters and drainpipes (I have a few packs of those ready painted) -- the Kestrel ones are awful, I think I could make those Kestrel kits look much better. (I already mentioned that the water tower is VERY similar to the former one at Bude. However, I am thinking of making one using grey stone instead of bricks, like the former one at Halwill Junction).

This evening, after checking student draft assignments all day, I got time to patch paint the wagons where the text was removed and paint the wagon roofs. (Pictures tomorrow.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 20, 2014, 09:11:01 pm
A great way to chill out after a busy day Chris. Looking forward to the updates tomorrow :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 20, 2014, 09:27:25 pm
A great way to chill out after a busy day Chris. Looking forward to the updates tomorrow :D

Thanks, Jon. Yes, it was. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 20, 2014, 09:56:14 pm
It's always good to relax.
Will await further updates on Sunday.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2014, 06:53:38 am
Thanks, Martin. Yes, it is.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2014, 10:06:29 am
Good morning from sunny Prague. More quick update photos.

The results of patch painting, plus the completed Castle Brewery van (with the damaged body; it's missing the continuation of several of the vertical edge stanchions -- maybe, repairable with plasticard and superglue?):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-21081436_zps1d402239.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-21081436_zps1d402239.jpg.html)

Interestingly, Humbrol Rust seems to be a good approximate match for goods wagon brown (on the two left-hand wagons). It would even be possible, to carefully repaint the LNER brake van into faded brown and leave the white handrails?

The previously repainted vans; however, one van (top left, in Castle Brewery dark blue) needs patch painting to cover the removed GW logo then repainting and reweathering:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-21081513_zps2ee82765.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-21081513_zps2ee82765.jpg.html)

Note the van roofs need to be painted on the underside edges, too!

Two unfitted (grey) mineral wagons showing how much larger the Minitrix one is! (I thought only Lima wagons were out of scale?)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-21081542_zpsaf33b8a2.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-21081542_zpsaf33b8a2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2014, 11:53:55 am
A relaxing morning spent painting wagons: the first coats of Castle Estates blue on two of the wooden-bodied opens and matt black on the various wagon underframes. Also, patch-painted the old Castle Brewery van (to cover up where the GW logo was). It will need reweathering but the patch-painting looks good as though it had had some bodywork repairs but not a full repaint.

That leaves the wagons to be spraypainted, tomorrow, and silver and red to be done.

More photos., tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 21, 2014, 03:03:18 pm
Keep up the good work Chris.
Beautiful day down here in Cornwall so all that I've done modelling wise it a base coat on 4 swans and 4 ducks !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2014, 04:10:42 pm
Having won another Peco LNER short wheelbase brake van, I now will have too many! If anyone wants one in either BR Grey or BR Brown liveries (repainted by myself and as supplied to Trepol Bay!), please, send me a PM! I can also lightly weather one according to prototype colour photos.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 21, 2014, 04:12:28 pm
Having won another LNER short wheelbase brake van, I now will have too many! If anyone wants one in either BR Grey or BR Brown liveries (repainted by myself and as supplied to Trepol Bay!), please, send me a PM! I can also lightly weather one.

Pm for you Chris
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2014, 04:17:25 pm
Thanks, Jon. Practice makes better . . . I have my first ex-LNER Toad 10ft. wheelbase 'Wadebridge' brake van, handpainted in BR Grey, (IMHO only looks good from normal viewing distance), my second (first one spraypainted) in BR Brown (and delivered to Martin's Trepol Bay has appeared on both my thread and Martin's) I was MUCH happier with. I'm now on to my third and fourth brake vans, both already spraypainted in BR Brown and only awaiting completion of the white handrails (a time-consuming, fiddly job) with my fifth (will be my first one in grey which is spraypainted) following. A sixth brake van is coming and will also be spraypainted in grey, for me (at present). I find painting them very relaxing. 8-) However, I really only need one in grey and one in brown.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2014, 04:31:26 pm
So, my first grey spraypainted ex-LNER brakevan will be going to Jon, nicely weathered. Photos. will be posted. I hope to do spraypainting tomorrow morning.

I have a nice selection of colour photos of theses 'Wadebridge' brake vans in use in the 1960s.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 21, 2014, 05:31:29 pm
So, my first grey spraypainted ex-LNER brakevan will be going to Jon, nicely weathered. Photos. will be posted. I hope to do spraypainting tomorrow morning.

I have a nice selection of colour photos of theses 'Wadebridge' brake vans in use in the 1960s.

Thanks Chris. :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2014, 05:44:22 pm
Having weathered some old box vans, i decided to lightly weather one of my two Brown ex-LNER brake vans that I am currently painting, as an experiment, Jon. (NO point in having both look ex-works!) I will post pictures, tomorrow, so you can see.

I'll also post some pictures of the real-life prototypes.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 21, 2014, 07:45:39 pm
Having weathered some old box vans, i decided to lightly weather one of my two Brown ex-LNER brake vans that I am currently painting, as an experiment, Jon. (NO point in having both look ex-works!) I will post pictures, tomorrow, so you can see.

I'll also post some pictures of the real-life prototypes.

Thanks Chris, I look forward to seeing them.
I'm following the rake formation that was posted in the Hornby Magazine issue 86. Its a china clay rake, now the in the magazine it shows a Class 22 ,midland 20ton brake two 12ton vent vans 14 clay wagons and two more 12ton vent vans and finally a 20ton brake van. My plan is to closely follow this but since I don't have space to run the full rake to do it as followed, the 22, midland brake van, two vented vans, 6 clay wagons and the 20 ton brake van. And that's where the ex LNER brake comes in. so that's my plan for that Chris.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2014, 07:51:30 pm
I have not seen that picture, Jon, however, I have a picture of an ex-LMSR long wheelbase brake van in BR Brown behind a N, 31842, on a fuel train (one black Shell / BP tank wagon) at Boscarne Jn., 8th May, 1964.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2014, 07:53:42 pm
The vans were used for bagged 'fine' clay.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 21, 2014, 08:01:55 pm
The vans were less likely to be covered in clay dust than the open wagons so be careful with the weathering. However, I did rather overdo the weathering on my van which I use in my china clay train.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2014, 08:26:41 pm
Colour photos of BR Bauxite ex-LNER short wheelbase brake van allocated to Wadebridge and used on Wenfordbridge branch in the 1960s (the first photo. shows one with Wadebridge's 'Queen Mary' bogie brake van -- I still have not bought one from the NGS I regret to report):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-Wadebridgeex-LNERBrakeVansinBRBrown_zps2f56521e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-Wadebridgeex-LNERBrakeVansinBRBrown_zps2f56521e.jpg.html)

Useful for weathering guidance. Note, no sign of white dust from china clay. A light 'dusting' of rust on the underframe and pale grey on the running boards, I think should be enough.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 21, 2014, 08:33:11 pm
[quote

Useful for weathering guidance. Note, no sign of white dust from china clay.
[/quote]

This is true Chris. I do like that picture so if it's ok could you follow  the weathering from that on to the one your doing for me please.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2014, 08:34:41 pm
The vans were less likely to be covered in clay dust than the open wagons so be careful with the weathering. However, I did rather overdo the weathering on my van which I use in my china clay train.

From the colour photos, I've seen a light coating of white clay dust on the van's underframe and around the bottom of the side doors of the van was typical.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2014, 08:36:29 pm
[quote

Useful for weathering guidance. Note, no sign of white dust from china clay.

This is true Chris. I do like that picture so if it's ok could you follow  the weathering from that on to the one your doing for me please.
[/quote]

Will do. Jon. I'll try out the weathering on my second brown van, this week, so you can see before I try your grey one.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 22, 2014, 09:23:27 am
More quick photos taken this morning of repainted wagons.

The Castle Brewery (darker blue) and Castle Estates' (lighter blue) vans (only need a little 'retouching'; e.g. the missing paint on one van's roof, now done) and the first ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake van (completed):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-22092317_zps81a6beeb.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-22092317_zps81a6beeb.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-22092353_zps81835fd4.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-22092353_zps81835fd4.jpg.html)

The current four ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake vans:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-22092520_zps61275863.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-22092520_zps61275863.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-22092531_zpsc9183cd8.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-22092531_zpsc9183cd8.jpg.html)

Jon's brakevan after spraypainting with Tamiya grey undercoat (close to faded -- in the Cornish sun -- BR Early Grey):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-22101027_zps91f8c9f6.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-22101027_zps91f8c9f6.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-22101055_zpsec506aa7.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-22101055_zpsec506aa7.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-22101111_zps078629a7.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-22101111_zps078629a7.jpg.html)

Alas, I was in a hurry and forgot to add the Sellotape at one end to protect the area which did not need spraypainting grey!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 22, 2014, 04:26:57 pm
Having, temporarily, cleared my academic work backload, I spent a happy morning painting wagons. (Pictures tomorrow, after the paint has dried.)

I also added a support on the cafe roof for the big sign which needs the (formerly missing) end painting:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-22162617_zpsfe7dbf16.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-22162617_zpsfe7dbf16.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-22162624_zps2676459d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-22162624_zps2676459d.jpg.html)

When I make another converted brake van body beach cafe (for Penmayne), I will put two of the Ratio brass windows with extractor fans in the sides (one per side) instead of the central blackboards. However, with this cafe, you have to imagine that the big shutters (closed) at the end of the building could be opened and that would let in a lot of sunlight. Anyway, at Cant Cove, the customers will sit outside under umbrellas, (already bought from China), and only the kitchen, refrigerators and storage shelves -- which I will NOT be modelling -- will be inside the cafe.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 22, 2014, 06:16:06 pm
The cafe is coming on nicely Chris and so is my van.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :no:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 22, 2014, 08:44:08 pm
Thanks, Jon. I'm going to enjoy completing your van and the other two ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' vans. As a trial, I've lightly weathered one side of one of the two brown brake vans and brushed rust on the underframe.

The Cant Cove Cafe should be completed (minus Cornish sand), tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 23, 2014, 11:09:10 am
Today's quick pictures.

The two formerly orange (as bought) wagons after respraying and light weathering and replacement of wheels:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-23105913_zps8bcb831e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-23105913_zps8bcb831e.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-23105932_zps189b3e1c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-23105932_zps189b3e1c.jpg.html)

Two purchased vans (only buffers painted by me; I think these are refrigerated / insulated non-BR design vans) with the weathered open long wheelbase flat wagon:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-23110028_zps8707ca22.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-23110028_zps8707ca22.jpg.html)

Completed non-BR design fish van and two open wagons (without wheels, as underframes have still to be painted matt black) in Castle Estates livery but before their interior is painted:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-23110219_zpsc9faf95f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-23110219_zpsc9faf95f.jpg.html)

Jon's ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake van after spraying but before painting the underframe matt black, the handrails gloss white and general weathering:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-23110401_zps0930a6cb.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-23110401_zps0930a6cb.jpg.html)

Wheels also removed prior to painting.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 23, 2014, 12:56:34 pm
The vans are coming a long nicely Chris.  Can't wait to see it running on Weaver Cove on the clay formation.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 23, 2014, 01:05:33 pm
The vans are coming a long nicely Chris.  Can't wait to see it running on Weaver Cove on the clay formation.

Thanks, John. The various remaining van and wagon underframes have now been painted matt black and I've continued weathering one of my two ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake vans to give you an idea of what your grey van will, I hope, look like. Pictures, later, as I have to go out, now.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 23, 2014, 07:12:15 pm
Unfortunately, even in (not very bright) daylight and closeup the weathering does not show up well.

Weathered ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake van (white handrails need retouching) and repainted roof of Cant Cove Cafe with support for roof sign:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-23140837_zps8580051b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-23140837_zps8580051b.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-23140908_zps047c0acd.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-23140908_zps047c0acd.jpg.html)

Close-up of cafe roof:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-23140923_zpsbf4c3e46.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-23140923_zpsbf4c3e46.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 24, 2014, 09:40:29 pm
Not much to report, today: just minor painting and gluing jobs but the Cant Cove Cafe building is finally finished with the big signboard mounted on the roof and painted. Just some minor 'touch-up' painting on the cafe roof around the sign, tomorrow. (Pictures should follow.) Also did some final 'touch-up'painting on the mineral tramway bridge sides so they can be put away. 'Touched-up' the green paint on the windows of the weighbridge office then glued the window 'glass' in place. The building can, then, finally be glued together. Then it will be time to glue on all the drainpipes and gutters on the buildings, apart from the loco. shed. The shelves for the loco. shed needed painting underneath so I part-painted those. Tomorrow, I hope to complete that and, later this week, glue them in place. (Some posters and blackboards had to be removed which meant more 'touching up' of paint!) After that, finally, the two halves can be glued together and the shed fitted onto its base. then the (removable) roofs can be fitted and the two parts glued together, the bargeboards adjusted and the gutters and drainpipes (following the layout on the former St. Ives loco. shed) glued into place.

I also prepared Jon's brakevan for the first gloss white painting of the handrails. (I will do the first, long, horizontal handrails on all 3 brakevans. The other handrails will be done in a day or so; it takes a long time for the paint to dry.) Some of the vans and wagons will need drybrushing with rust colour and the footboards on the two weathered brake vans drybrushed with light grey. One more Peco LNER short wheelbase brake van should be on its way; that will be my second grey one but I will try the Halford's Grey undercoat spraypaint on that one, I think. I must remember to spray a thin layer from a distance!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 25, 2014, 09:19:57 am
Today's quick pictures (unfortunately, it is grey and overcast here so the pictures are rather dull):

The (almost) completed Cant Cove Cafe building:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-25094044_zps15a01549.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-25094044_zps15a01549.jpg.html)

A piece under the sign has come lose and had to be reglued (and, afterwards, the paint 'touched up').

The serving counter end of the cafe:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-25094102_zps94d9e08a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-25094102_zps94d9e08a.jpg.html)

The roof has to be patch-painted to cover up the dried glue.

The end of the cafe showing the sign support and the piece that came lose:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-25094126_zps1fc85ae3.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-25094126_zps1fc85ae3.jpg.html)

The ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake vans all prepared for the first handrail painting in gloss white:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-25094316_zps1b2c8d59.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-25094316_zps1b2c8d59.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 25, 2014, 03:29:41 pm
I really need some N Scale dustbins, now, to stand outside the cafe. Does anyone know of any?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: scotsoft on September 25, 2014, 03:37:01 pm
Could you not make what you need using the tube from a biro pen or a straw?

cheers John.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: railsquid on September 25, 2014, 03:40:36 pm
I really need some N Scale dustbins, now, to stand outside the cafe. Does anyone know of any?

Only Japanese-style ones.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: scotsoft on September 25, 2014, 03:42:55 pm
There are always these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/P-D-Marsh-C36-Dustbins-N-Gauge-/221553571398?_trksid=p2054897.l5658 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/P-D-Marsh-C36-Dustbins-N-Gauge-/221553571398?_trksid=p2054897.l5658)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 25, 2014, 06:12:34 pm
I'm liking the look of your café Chris. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 25, 2014, 09:12:39 pm
Thank you, guys. I'll put the P&D Marsh dustbins on my 'to buy' list. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 25, 2014, 09:14:42 pm
I'm liking the look of your café Chris. Good stuff.

Thanks, Martin. I plan to post pictures of the finished version, tomorrow. (Finished apart from the lettering on the sign and the dustbins!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 26, 2014, 12:35:53 pm
Today's quick updates.

The finished bufferstop in SR colours in Cant Cove loco. shed and the completed (apart from the lettering on the signs, 'Cornish Pixie' ice cream brand logo, dustbins and sand) Cant Cove Cafe building:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-26130552_zpsbb6cbfaf.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-26130552_zpsbb6cbfaf.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-26130617_zps5d49de19.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-26130617_zps5d49de19.jpg.html)

NB The track is just temporary. A walkway in front of the bufferstop still has to be fitted.

The ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake vans showing weathering under way (on the centre two vans) but painting apart from the first grey one (R/H end) is not yet completed (drybrushing of rust, completion of the white handrails):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-26130722_zps58b49aeb.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-26130722_zps58b49aeb.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-26130730_zpsa8bbb757.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-26130730_zpsa8bbb757.jpg.html)

The second grey brake van is being heavily weathered as per Jon's wishes.

Update photos., tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 26, 2014, 05:09:22 pm
I began constructing the two P&D Marsh SR Van kits, today: A553 Planked and A554c Plywood. I have already painted in matt black two PECO NR-121 10ft. Steel type solebar wagon chassis kits for them. Many thanks to the two NGF members who confirmed that, for my period (1961-1968), both should be painted in BR Bauxite as they would have been vacuum-braked. In my case it will be Early BR Bauxite (Halford's Red Undercoat spray). Pictures to follow.

I also 'touched up' the gloss white paint on the bufferstop in Cant Cove loco. shed and am, finally, satisfied that it looks as good as I can make it with a nice straight horizontal red line.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 26, 2014, 05:12:22 pm
Good to see that things are progressing well.
I do like the ice cream hut and looking forward to seeing the final detailing and lettering.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 26, 2014, 06:10:31 pm
Rummaging through my boxes of scenic items, I was delighted to find that I DO have some N Scale dustbins (bought as one of the job lots of items I have bought on eBay). So, they will be painted and two placed outside the cafe. 8-)

Pictures tomorrow!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 26, 2014, 11:35:18 pm
Good to see that things are progressing well.
I do like the ice cream hut and looking forward to seeing the final detailing and lettering.

Thanks, Martin.

Anything which will need printing in colour on photographic paper, like the cafe sign and the brand logo as well as the Cornish Locomotive Preservation Society signs, the goods yard signs including the Coal Merchants, the Castle Brewery signs to go on the wagons and vans and the signs for the Station Hotel and the Tramway Inn will have to wait until I have created enough to fill a sheet. So it will be some time, yet, I'm afraid, Martin. (I have some signs ready for the nudist beach though!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Bob Wild on September 26, 2014, 11:41:58 pm
Coming on nicely - but the exciting bit is when we see it all on that baseboard with some track that your kindly landlord helped you with.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 26, 2014, 11:50:40 pm
Coming on nicely - but the exciting bit is when we see it all on that baseboard with some track that your kindly landlord helped you with.

Thanks, Bob. I enjoy making and painting the buildings and wagons and they are tasks which break down into easy stages which I can fit in around my work tasks. The trip to the local DIY store to buy the insulating panel sections to be cut and glued onto the baseboard for the track and scenery should be next month. We're both rather busy and need a free day. The baseboard is ready and I've all the track and points plus joiners and trackpins. And there is no shortage of rolling stock to run!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 27, 2014, 12:20:41 pm
This weekend's first quick update.

The (finally) finished Cant Cove loco. shed bufferstop (although I see I need to trim off a piece of plastic with red paint on -- an advantage of close-up photos is that you can see such details!) plus the first SR van body made up (one of the inner support pieces was too wide and had to be reduced in width):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-27115729_zpsffeccf21.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-27115729_zpsffeccf21.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-27115741_zps8e0576ef.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-27115741_zps8e0576ef.jpg.html)

Once I have made up the other, both will be spraypainted.

The walkway in front of the bufferstops still needs to be fitted; I had to raise the supports so that it cleared the rails. (The white marks are where the previous supports were removed.)

Updates later of the brakevans.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 27, 2014, 01:58:10 pm
The promised brakevan update plus the parts of the 2nd SR goods van:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-27135129_zps9e00af44.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-27135129_zps9e00af44.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-27135144_zpsb4e99ff2.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-27135144_zpsb4e99ff2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 27, 2014, 07:03:32 pm
I have made the stone base for the loco. shed's water tower (which will use the tank from a Ratio kit which I had ready) and cut the spaces for the Ratio brass door and windows in the plastic stone sheet sides. The doors and windows will be in the same style as the loco. shed, (pictures, tomorrow). The tank though is a bit damaged as I accidently filed off a very small end piece when I was preparing the ends for glueing.  :dunce: I hope Tamiya filler will come to the rescue! I used the Kestrel water tower (brick built, going to Trepol Bay as it is similar to the one at Bude) and pictures of the much taller former stone-built water tower at Launceston as inspiration but it is strictly freelance. I hope though that it will fit in well with Cant Cove's loco. shed as being in the style of the Wadebridge & Penmayne Railway! (Later a joint LSWR / GWR line then joint SR / GWR before becoming a Southern Region then Western Region line.)

Earlier I did more white handrail painting on the three ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake vans and left them to dry before doing any more work on them (I hope tomorrow). Very nice sunny weather, here. The second SR van awaits supergluing. (I plan to spraypaint them both, tomorrow.)

I also need to prepare the paving stones for the two painted dustbins to stand on outside Cant Cove Cafe.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 27, 2014, 07:06:40 pm
I'm sure that the filler will do the job. I make good use of filler to repair minor blemishes !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 12:34:21 am
Thanks, Martin. It is so small that only a really closeup look will reveal that a piece is missing. I'm not sure how much free time I will get tomorrow as I have a LOT of student assignments. However, I want to finish the brakevans, and glue together the second SR van so that I can spraypaint them. Beyond that I'm not sure what I'll be able to do. I will post pictures of the water tower, though.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 08:50:49 am
I will post more pictures of the finished brakevans, soon, including one of Jon's heavily weathered grey one with my china clay wagons and one of my two Class 22s renumbered as Plymouth Laira examples that worked out of Exmouth Junction shed after the WR takeover of the SR lines in North Devon and North Cornwall. (Maybe also with my two new kit-built SR vans and the ex-works Castle Brewery van for Port Perran and Trepol Bay traffic?)

I have found a small pack of BR head and tail oil lamps for the brakevans so will add one per van (although I also have a kit for a working tail light I will try that, later, on a larger van, when I have a jeweller's drill! I'm still learning how to paint and weather wagons (I will be making a third grey one, but for myself, and spraypainted, when my last Peco NE van arrives; two BR brown and two BR grey will be enough! I don't think Wadebridge had very many; maybe around four?)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 09:38:37 am
The components (and other parts) for the stone-base water tower for Cant Cove; not all painted in their final colours. A bit of a 3D jigsaw puzzle. The German plastic stone sheet pieces are VERY thick and I have had to try to bevel the edges with my craft knife and a metal file but thin plasticard vertical edging stones will be added as per one of the parts of the workshop behind the loco. shed. Looking at my picture of the the Okehampton water tank, I should add a thin plasticard stone base overlay and an upper base overlay for the tank.

I think the metal tank is supposed to slightly overhang the base? Mine won't though as the stone pieces were cut to the same width as the tank sides. The good news is that the tiny piece I filed off one end of the water tank does not show! However, my messy (hurried) gluing does and will have to be cleaned up with my craft knife and a metal file. (My set of metal files, bought on eBay, were a GREAT purchase.) Very annoyingly I have a perfectly glued (but badly painted) Ratio water tank in my bits box bought as part of a job lot. It's so well glued that I cannot take it apart for re-use even if I could remove the paint!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-28090927_zps8dc16e6c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-28090927_zps8dc16e6c.jpg.html)

The room under the water tank will be the loco. crews' mess room. The water tank will, eventually, have an sign advertising the Cornish Locomotive Preservation Society (the shed's owners). BR SR and WR staff working in their spare time, the members form the support crew for the post-1964 SR steam locomotives running on summer services including the "Atlantic Coast Express" and provide facilities for their visiting colleagues from the Great Western Society at Bodmin General when their preserved WR steam locos. are running on the line. (WR and visiting SR and other region diesels are serviced at the purpose-built WR TRSMD at Penmayne, in the style of Plymouth Laira's main building but MUCH smaller.) There is also a small single-track loco. shed with coaling and watering facilities (to be modelled on Bude's; another Ratio kit) for visiting steam locos there with a (Peco) turntable (to be motorised).

The BR tail lamps for the brakevans and the SR bufferstop after final, final 'touching up' with white paint and removal of tiny bits of paint and plastic that were annoying me!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-28091048_zps4cc958b7.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-28091048_zps4cc958b7.jpg.html)

The eagle-eyed will have spotted that one 'jewel' has come out of a lamp. Gluing THAT back in will be fun . . .
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: NeMo on September 28, 2014, 10:50:28 am
The eagle-eyed will have spotted that one 'jewel' has come out of a lamp. Gluing THAT back in will be fun . . .
Indeed. Try this instead: a big blob of bright red acrylic paint. Works for me! Doesn't fall out but looks just as bright as the crystal.

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 11:27:30 am
Many thanks, NeMo. I'm not a big fan of 'jewels' in any case. However, I don't have any acrylic paints (although I could buy some bright red from the plastic model kit shop, here, where I buy a lot of my railway modelling supplies).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: NeMo on September 28, 2014, 12:30:59 pm
Many thanks, NeMo. I'm not a big fan of 'jewels' in any case. However, I don't have any acrylic paints (although I could buy some bright red from the plastic model kit shop, here, where I buy a lot of my railway modelling supplies).

Enamel might work if you have some. But for this sort of job I have a dozen small tubes of cheap acrylic paints (http://www.wilko.com/wilko-assorted-acrylic-colours-12ml-x-12/invt/0300142) picked up from Wilkinson's, £2.25 the lot, and there are useful amounts of reds, greens, browns, etc. for little jobs where serious colour-matching isn't needed. I'd have thought any art shop in the world will have similar packs, often targeted at kids, but provided the paints are opaque, they'll do the job! I use these paints for slapping paint onto small whitemetal bits (like station lamps) and with a bit more care even small plastic and brass kits (such as bicycles and platform trolleys). Pretty much anywhere the precise colour doesn't matter!

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 28, 2014, 12:40:20 pm
I too prefer paint to jewels. I think it looks better.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 12:54:46 pm
Thanks, guys. I think I'll look for some kids' acrylic paints then, as I only need a very small amount of red.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 02:43:09 pm
Those P&D Marsh SR Van kits are really pretty crude. (And the prototypes were, I believe, 9ft. not 10ft.) I spent ages, this morning, on the second, 'planked' one trying to get it to fit under the supplied roof after much filing and regluing it sort of looks OK. They also seem to suck up spraypaint. I think I may also have to use some Tamiya filler on it. Still it is a beautiful sunny day so I can have the windows open to dispel the stink of the Halford's spraypaint! If I did not already have the kits and the Peco chassis kits I don't think I would recommend them. Alas, I have more 10ft. Peco wagon chassis kits needing bodies so may try some of P&D Marsh's GWR wagons and hope they fit together better.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 28, 2014, 03:23:57 pm
I've never bothered with those P&D Marsh kits - seems easier to get RTR to me but I'm sure that you will beaver away and persevere Chris.
Lovely day here too!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 03:44:39 pm
Thanks, Martin. I bought the two kits, last year, before I knew that RTR SR Vans were coming from Graham Farish. I thought they would be good practice before moving on to NGS kits. The spraypainting has shown up where filing and filler will be required. I will indeed persevere and try to make them look better before another respray, tomorrow. I have two windows (on opposite of the flat open) it is so warm and sunny to dispel the smell of the spraypaint! Even with a LOT of TLC they won't look as good as even early Graham Farish vans but they ARE typically SR and the real life prototypes appear in many pictures of goods train in Cornwall so I will not give up on them!

I want to have ivy on part of the loco. shed and the water tower so I am interested in how you achieved your green weed effect as (minus varnish for the 'wet' look) I think the techniques could be similar?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 28, 2014, 03:50:06 pm
I think it would work for moss but you'd need to apply it very carefully. With the sea-weed, I could be quite heavy handed !
It is very simply paint (in my case sea green and black) pasted on quite thickly then add scatter material and press it firmly down with fingers to make it stick. I used gloss effect acrylics . I think for moss (and I will try it on some of my buildings) you will need a light green paint (matt effect) then a lightish scatter material spred carefully so as not to give a "thick" effect.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 03:57:24 pm
Thanks, Martin. I think I will need to experiment on a piece of dry-stone or SR concrete panel walling (there will be some around the loco. shed 'garden' area, first. I need to check if I have fine enough green scatter.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 28, 2014, 04:24:32 pm
Thanks, Martin. I think I will need to experiment on a piece of dry-stone or SR concrete panel walling (there will be some around the loco. shed 'garden' area, first. I need to check if I have fine enough green scatter.
Yes, I think fine is the key here. I have some fairly light green which would probably suffice colour wise.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 04:40:11 pm
Thanks, Martin. I think I will need to experiment on a piece of dry-stone or SR concrete panel walling (there will be some around the loco. shed 'garden' area, first. I need to check if I have fine enough green scatter.
Yes, I think fine is the key here. I have some fairly light green which would probably suffice colour wise.

Thanks, again, Martin. I need very fine dark green for ivy. I need to check what I have.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 28, 2014, 05:52:15 pm
Sorry Chris. Don't know where the moss came from. I think it will work OK for Ivy as well.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 05:53:33 pm
Three vans at various stages:

Completed ex-works Castle Brewery van for Port Perran and Trepol Bay traffic, heavily weathered ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake van for Jon and not very good ex-SR van for Cant Cove (and Penmayne) showing where paint had to be stripped off and the surface smoothed with a file (prior to respraying, tomorrow); the second ex-SR van is now in two pieces and also had to have paint removed and the under surface filed, probably some Tamiya filler, too:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-28173712_zps533f5dd2.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-28173712_zps533f5dd2.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-28173727_zpsf6e0bf86.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-28173727_zpsf6e0bf86.jpg.html)

The brakevan (and some of my recently painted, weathered wagons) has since been dry brushed with rust and a bit of grey patch painting. The white handrails on one end have still to be done then a final wash of matt black overall and it will be ready to depart for Weaver Cove. (It's now too dark for more pictures, today.) I slightly overdid the rust on one of my weathered vans and it will have to be drybrushed with matt black in places.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 28, 2014, 05:57:40 pm
Looks very, very good Chris. Looking forward to seeing that van on Port Perran & Trepol Bay.
It's good to have a corporate livery.
I may well do something similar for the Headland Brewery.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 28, 2014, 06:06:31 pm
its going to look great on the clay wagons Chris thank you very much.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 06:35:03 pm
its going to look great on the clay wagons Chris thank you very much.

My pleasure, Jon. I plan to complete your van, tomorrow, and take some pictures for you before packing it up in its box ready to post.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 08:10:04 pm

I may well do something similar for the Headland Brewery.

I think that's an excellent idea, Martin. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 10:05:05 pm
Hi Martin, here is the Castle Brewery logo which will be printed much smaller on photographic paper ready for gluing on all the Castle Brewery wagons once I've bought some more photographic paper! (I'll send you two panels for gluing on the existing wagon):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/CastleBreweryLogoREVISED_zps06d212f1.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/CastleBreweryLogoREVISED_zps06d212f1.jpg.html)

Hmm, I need to add a slogan under the logo! I like Bateman's: "Good honest ales", I hope they won't mind me adapting it: "Good honest Cornish ales".
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 29, 2014, 06:59:19 am
Looks very good Chris.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 07:04:08 am
Looks very good Chris.

Thanks, Martin. I should add a 'phone number, too but in N Scale it will be so tiny that I don't think it matters.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 11:52:55 am
The former Trevelver Castle Brewery,  justly famous for its award-winning ales, has also invested in continuing services both passenger and freight to distribute its local ales (via Cant Cove yard), as well as having a reciprocal arrangement with Messers Bass Worthington to distribute theirs locally for all the thirsty summer tourists from the Midlands and North! (So, I needed some Trevelver Castle Ales 4w vans to go with my Bass and Worthington ones!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 12:20:10 pm
This morning's update (the sun was a bit weak so the pictures are a little dull):

The latest photos of the ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake vans (still some weathering to do on the first and third one), the two dustbins on their paving stones (before the edges were painted) and Sid the Surveyor who always puts his bin out Monday mornings!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-29095510_zps8bbdc10e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-29095510_zps8bbdc10e.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-29095532_zps54f5efa7.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-29095532_zps54f5efa7.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-29095608_zps09ce53ac.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-29095608_zps09ce53ac.jpg.html)

Jon's grey van still has to have the roof weathered and a little more drybrushed black in places.

Cant Cove Cafe with its new bins ready!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-29120827_zps0fa7c1e5.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-29120827_zps0fa7c1e5.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-29120858_zpseefa85a9.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-29120858_zpseefa85a9.jpg.html)

The two dustbins really add the perfect 'touch', I think.

Only the signs and sand to be added, now.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on September 29, 2014, 02:45:42 pm
Love the cafe Chris.  Not sure about that last brake van though - could get a bit cold with no roof! :)

Best

Paddy
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 02:54:19 pm
Love the cafe Chris.  Not sure about that last brake van though - could get a bit cold with no roof! :)

Best

Paddy

Thanks, Paddy. The cafe was 'in planning' in my head for months. The next time I make one, for Penmayne, I'll add a window with extractor fan (Ratio brass), in each side instead of the central blackboard.

The roofless brakevan had to have a tiny break in the van roof end support superglued before I can put the roof back. Jon's van now has a smoke-stained roof.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 03:04:43 pm
As promised the lightly weathered wagons, two BR bauxite open wagons, and old Castle Estates van plus old, patch-painted, more heavily weathered Castle Brewery van:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-29143713_zps86a16b38.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-29143713_zps86a16b38.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 04:40:17 pm
Now more picture's of Jon's brakevan, only the black data panels need to be 'tidied up' with grey paint and the horizontal handrails, on the body whilst the roof needs some dry brushing with grey to reduce the impact of the black smudges:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-29163200_zps0bb0ad6c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-29163200_zps0bb0ad6c.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-29163221_zpsaaada680.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-29163221_zpsaaada680.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-29163232_zps8400e72a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-29163232_zps8400e72a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 29, 2014, 06:07:16 pm
The brake van looks good.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 29, 2014, 07:14:47 pm
Looks amazing chris. I've heard on the grip vine that the WR management have had a meeting and I've heard that a Class 22 with a rake of grain wagons has being given the go a head to run to Castle Brewery via Can't Cove yard. I believe this service will start running in November. ;)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 29, 2014, 07:36:56 pm
Looks amazing chris. I've heard on the grip vine that the WR management have had a meeting and I've heard that a Class 22 with a rake of grain wagons has being given the go a head to run to Castle Brewery via Can't Cove yard. I believe this service will start running in November. ;)
I do hope that WR Management have a firm hold on that vine !! :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 29, 2014, 07:53:20 pm
Looks amazing chris. I've heard on the grip vine that the WR management have had a meeting and I've heard that a Class 22 with a rake of grain wagons has being given the go a head to run to Castle Brewery via Can't Cove yard. I believe this service will start running in November. ;)
I do hope that WR Management have a firm hold on that vine !! :laugh: :laugh:

Well I know Mrs Cove as a firm grip on my wallet  :help: but thankfully she not on the management team lol and what she doesn't know wont hurt her lol
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 08:56:42 pm
Looks amazing chris. I've heard on the grip vine that the WR management have had a meeting and I've heard that a Class 22 with a rake of grain wagons has being given the go a head to run to Castle Brewery via Can't Cove yard. I believe this service will start running in November. ;)

Thanks, I'm enjoying painting these brake vans. I have two Class 22s and various grain wagons: the Dapol grey ones, the Peco brown ones and the blue whisky ones which will be changed to blue Castle Brewery ones. Hops from Kent and Worcestershire and barley from East Anglia would be typical and would reach the SR on cross-London inter-regional freights. North Cornwall was  served by goods trains departing from Nine Elms to Exeter, I believe.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 29, 2014, 09:22:05 pm
I must have missed the picture of the café with the dustbins. It's really good and you are quite right - those bins do add a nice touch. I'm thinking that when my brake van body arrives, I could use it to make a harbour café serving tea/coffee to the local workforce.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on September 29, 2014, 09:29:52 pm
Looks amazing chris. I've heard on the grip vine that the WR management have had a meeting and I've heard that a Class 22 with a rake of grain wagons has being given the go a head to run to Castle Brewery via Can't Cove yard. I believe this service will start running in November. ;)

I have two Class 22s and various grain wagons: the Dapol grey ones, the Peco brown ones and the blue whisky ones which will be changed to blue Castle Brewery ones. Hops from Kent and Worcestershire and barley from East Anglia would be typical and would reach the SR on cross-London inter-regional freights. North Cornwall was  served by goods trains departing from Nine Elms to Exeter, I believe.

I'm getting the dapol pre weathered ones and the clean ones as well. I know what your saying about the grain run, its just I was using Castle Brewery as it give me a excuse to run them under a rule 1  :-[
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 09:32:56 pm
The 22.43 from Wadebridge to Penmayne (arr. 22.56), calling at Cant Cove at 22.50, (the last train of the day to call there to pick up the guests of the "Tramway Inn" and the "Station Hotel"), was delayed from its normal 22.52 departure to Penmayne -- where the two Bulleid carriage set is stabled whilst the 57XX retires to the shed at 23.07 and the crew 'sign off' at 23.17 -- by the necessity to shunt off the tail load, an ex-LMSR short wheelbase brakevan, that, en route to North Cornwall from Birmingham, had been taken down the Burnham branch of the S&D by mistake after some scallyway removed the cardboard routing instructions from the side of the van. Retrieved the errant brakevan was then sent on to Wadebridge, today, where the yardmaster gave instructions that it be taken to Cant Cove ASAP so the body can be removed by the Cornish Loco. Pres. Soc., who have sold the body to a cafe owner in Trepol Bay to raise funds to restore the loco. shed. A suitable flat wagon has been stabled in Cant Cove loco. shed and the van's body will be placed on it by the yard crane, tomorrow, and the wagon and its load sent off on the 10.10 goods from Penmayne to Wadebridge, arr. 10.24, hauled by a Class 22. From Wadebridge it will be sent on to Trepol Bay via Port Perran. The wagon and its load will have previously been taken from Cant Cove (d. 09.03) to Penmayne (a. 09.07) behind an engine running on test Light Engine from Penmayne, rumoured to be a WR 82XXX that the Penmayne shedmaster has got his hands on! A society member took the photo. with all the shed lights turned on, and a tripod and long exposure:

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Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 09:36:08 pm
Looks amazing chris. I've heard on the grip vine that the WR management have had a meeting and I've heard that a Class 22 with a rake of grain wagons has being given the go a head to run to Castle Brewery via Can't Cove yard. I believe this service will start running in November. ;)

I have two Class 22s and various grain wagons: the Dapol grey ones, the Peco brown ones and the blue whisky ones which will be changed to blue Castle Brewery ones. Hops from Kent and Worcestershire and barley from East Anglia would be typical and would reach the SR on cross-London inter-regional freights. North Cornwall was  served by goods trains departing from Nine Elms to Exeter, I believe.

I'm getting the dapol pre weathered ones and the clean ones as well. I know what your saying about the grain run, its just I was using Castle Brewery as it give me a excuse to run them under a rule 1  :-[

It could be a barley special but where would it originate from? It could get to Exeter from Bristol, of course.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 09:38:23 pm
I must have missed the picture of the café with the dustbins. It's really good and you are quite right - those bins do add a nice touch. I'm thinking that when my brake van body arrives, I could use it to make a harbour café serving tea/coffee to the local workforce.

Thanks, the bins really make it come to life. See, below, Martin, for the good news about the brake van!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on September 29, 2014, 09:44:35 pm
Thanks.
Port Perran locoshed will be preparing a local 0-6-0PT to run over to Wadebridge to collect the flat wagon (with brake van body) for onward transmission to Trepol Bay harbour. The local seamen's association have offered to help with unloading the van body as they are keen to have a tea hut in the harbour. The last one was destroyed by fire two years ago !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 09:49:39 pm
The Wadebridge yardmaster was informed by the stationmaster at Cant Cove as the yardmaster returned to Wadebridge on the 22.10 from Cant Cove to Wadebridge (a. 22.16) after darts night in the "Station Hotel". Cant Cove railwaymen just beat Wadebridge railwaymen and plenty of Castle Ales were still being drunk as the yardmaster hurried across the road to join the 2 Bulleid carriage set behind the 57XX.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 10:28:34 pm
Photos from tomorrow morning, bright and early at Cant Cove loco. shed:

82005 shunts in two wooden bodied open wagons for unloading and subsequent repainting in Castle Estates livery.

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Having removed the two now empty wagons, 82005 returns with the brakevan body now on the low-loading wagon for the body to be chained down securely before taking it to Penmayne where it will be shunted into the goods train for Wadebridge and then transfer to Trepol Bay:

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Photos taken by a bleary-eyed photographer from the "Western Morning News" staying at the nearby "Station Hotel" who took, at first, the wrong picture: the two mineral wagons!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 30, 2014, 08:00:33 pm
My last Peco NE brakevan arrived, today, and has been cleaned and the text removed before spraypainting with Halford's Matt Grey plastic undercoat, tomorrow afternoon, I plan. I also plan to finish Jon's grey 'Wadebridge' brakevan, tomorrow, too. There's very little left to do: just tidy up the black panels with grey edges of the right dimensions and tone down the black on the roof with drybrushed dark grey. I hope to finish it, tomorrow afternoon. As per Jon's wishes, I've weathered it much more than I will my brakevans, but have tried to avoid making it look only fit for scrapping! I plan to take pictures of it, finished, and with my china clay wagons and one of my two green D63XXs (future Class 22s).


Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 30, 2014, 08:54:47 pm
This morning's goods train from Penmayne to Wadebridge included an ex-works (Cornish Loco. Pres. Society members at Cant Cove loco. shed) Castle Brewery van and a low-loader wagon with an ex-LMSR brakevan body (nicely restored and painted in grey undercoat) for onward transmission to Trepol Bay via Port Perran.

The lads and lasses at Cant Cove loco. shed are putting back into running order an old unfitted ex-LNER 10ft. wheelbase brake van which had been standing out of use at Wadebridge and which has been requested by Weaver Cove for its china clay train. As it happens, a short rake of empty china clay wagons are due to leave Penmayne TRSMD after a light overhaul, behind one of the two (out-shedded from Plymouth Laira) D63XXs (future Class 22s) for Wadebridge, and the brake van will be added to the train and then forwarded from Wadebridge down to Weaver Cove by a suitable train. The Cornish Loco. Pres. Society have promised pictures.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 30, 2014, 09:20:32 pm
Two old ex-SR insulated vans have arrived at Cant Cove, via and have jumped the queue for repainting and a light overhaul. One will be used for 'Cornish Pixie' ice cream traffic and will be painted in Castle Estates livery whilst the other will be painted in Castle Brewery colours and used for local distribution of imported Kronenbourg lager after the Castle Brewery's management paid a very enjoyable visit to Strasbourg to sign the distribution agreement. It may also carry a small Kronenbourg logo. (The Kronenbourg ferry vans only work to and from the Castle Brewery.) Photos of the two vans in their plain white livery have been promised for tomorrow with photos of them in their new liveries as soon as the painters complete them.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: lil chris on October 01, 2014, 03:50:13 pm
By the way Chris if you are after point motors that have no need for soldering buy the Cobalt motors they have push terminals. They are a bit dear but are cheaper if you buy in batches of ten or more  from Hattons.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 01, 2014, 04:15:35 pm
Many thanks, Chris, for that valuable tip. Cobalts are one of the three brands I'm considering (Tortoise -- for the scenic part of my layout -- and the cheaper but less reliable Conrad -- for the off-scene storage sidings -- being the others but they DO require soldering). I have 10 standard points plus a three-way point and often buy items from Hattons. I need to buy one point motor very soon so that I can make the cut-outs to house point motors -- which I will buy and fit later -- in the insulating board above the baseboard and below the track and scenery. However, without soldering help I think I may as well bulk buy Cobalts from Hattons
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on October 01, 2014, 05:28:43 pm
Hi Chris for my next micro planned for 2015 I will be using Cobalt motors. I love the action you get with them.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 01, 2014, 05:34:01 pm
Hi Chris for my next micro planned for 2015 I will be using Cobalt motors. I love the action you get with them.

Thanks, John. So, it looks like I should buy one Cobalt, this month, as a template and then bulk buy 10 more from Hattons, later, when I get fed-up with hand-operating points! The baseboard is quite narrow and will sit on the double bed when I'm operating the layout so I can reach all 11 of the points quite easily. Before I can fit and use the three-way point I also need, I'm informed, a hex frog juicer so that has high priority, too.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on October 01, 2014, 05:37:35 pm
Hi Chris for my next micro planned for 2015 I will be using Cobalt motors. I love the action you get with them.

Thanks, John. So, it looks like I should buy one Cobalt, this month, as a template and then bulk buy 10 more from Hattons, later, when I get fed-up with hand-operating points! The baseboard is quite narrow and will sit on the double bed when I'm operating the layout so I can reach all 11 of the points quite easily. Before I can fit and use the three-way point I also need, I'm informed, a hex frog juicer so that has high priority, too.

Yes on the three way Chris But I'm going to use them for all my points as I want to control LED on the control panel
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 01, 2014, 05:44:45 pm
Anything more complex than a simple switch to set a point open or closed is beyond me, Jon.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: lil chris on October 01, 2014, 09:03:37 pm
Another Tip Chris, if you buy the Cobalts in a multi-pack you get the template kit with the box. You can buy sticky pads to mount them under your board(paint the board first) but I bought some double sided sticky tape off e-bay.It does make it easy mounting the motor and you can add screw after when you have checked its working correctly. I would imagine you want the analogue motors, they also have two built in switches, very handy. I am on dcc but control my points from a panel, so I have a  seperate power supply for the motors,if my dcc trips I still have power for my points.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 01, 2014, 09:32:02 pm
Thanks, Chris. That is a valuable tip. I will be operating a DCC layout but only about 25% of my motive power is DCC-fitted yet. (I bought enough to operate a Summer Saturday service c. 1962, based on the Padstow WTT, which is a LOT of locos!) I'm hoping to mount the point motors next to the points but sunken into the 'ground'. Analogue motors sounds right: two switches (open / closed)! I'm not planning a panel; maybe in the future when everything else is done. However, I am planning to have a separate power supply for the point motors (also lighting), so that will be three buses.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 01, 2014, 09:48:55 pm
Unfortunately, the local photographer did not have time to take pictures of the latest arrivals at Cant Cove loco. shed being shunted into the building but, in the workers' lunch break, he did take this picture of the three wagons with their roofs already removed for repair and repainting. He was also very puzzled to see two strange additional objects . . . (or was it the effects of the Castle Ales?)

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Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: lil chris on October 01, 2014, 11:46:01 pm
If you plan on powering the motors from a seperate bus you might be better buying the digital motors instead, they have the decoder built in I think. Check DCC's site.....
http://www.dccconcepts.com/ (http://www.dccconcepts.com/)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: railsquid on October 02, 2014, 05:36:38 am
He was also very puzzled to see two strange additional objects . . . (or was it the effects of the Castle Ales?)

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-01144413_zps6c0ab207.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-01144413_zps6c0ab207.jpg.html[/url])


Maybe the photographer should see a doctor?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 02, 2014, 06:04:51 am
If you plan on powering the motors from a separate bus you might be better buying the digital motors instead, they have the decoder built in I think. Check DCC's site.....
[url]http://www.dccconcepts.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.dccconcepts.com/[/url])


Thanks, Chris, for your reply. The idea is to have three separate power buses: one DCC for powering the locos on the track, one for powering point motors and signals (which don't have to be DCC), and one for powering lighting in buildings etc. I will ask a friend who is an electrical engineer for advice when I get to that stage but I want to put the actual under baseboard wiring in early on.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Caz on October 02, 2014, 09:09:14 am
. . . The idea is to have three separate power buses: one DCC for powering the locos on the track, one for powering point motors and signals (which don't have to be DCC), and one for powering lighting in buildings etc.

Exactly what I ended up doing, more wiring but means you can still operate the points even when a loco is shorting out and also all the lights and colour light signals don't flash when you get a short.   :thumbsup: 
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 02, 2014, 09:15:04 am
. . . The idea is to have three separate power buses: one DCC for powering the locos on the track, one for powering point motors and signals (which don't have to be DCC), and one for powering lighting in buildings etc.

Exactly what I ended up doing, more wiring but means you can still operate the points even when a loco is shorting out and also all the lights and colour light signals don't flash when you get a short.   :thumbsup:

Thanks, Caz. I think there are a lot of practical advantages in having three separate power buses, as you write. The wires can be colour-coded, too, to help fault-finding. (Again, which I plan to do.) With three buses around the edge of the (relatively small) baseboard I can then get the individual wires run to the track, points, lights, etc. I plan to use connection blocks rather than soldering.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 02, 2014, 09:32:44 am
Just time to do some quick Halford's matt grey plastic undercoat spraying (including wagon roofs), early this morning:

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With the paint dry, they can be prepared for final painting, later this week.

I also did some 'tidying up' of the black data panels on Jon's brakevan but more work is still needed.

Interestingly, the two strange objects have 'dematerialised' from Cant Cove. Four people were seen entering one, an old man with white hair, a young woman and a young man, and a young girl who they called Susan . . . Someone who simply said,"I am the Master", was then seen entering the other . . .
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 03, 2014, 10:16:23 am
It looks like the Cant Cove painters are in for a busy Monday as another wagon (Peco flat long wheelbase unpainted) has arrived to join the queue for painting in Castle Estates' livery due to increased traffic to / from the estates including to Trepol Bay as well as Penmayne, Wadebridge, Exeter, Plymouth, London and beyond. However, although only one 7-plank wagon was going to be repainted out of the two grey ones the second one has been recalled from Wadebridge for traffic to Trepol Bay now that the line to the busy harbour has been reinstated and a new contract signed with BR (SR).

A couple of crates of 'Castle Light Ale' for the painters arrived on the morning branch goods to Cant Cove and are safely stored in the shed manager's office. Sausage rolls, Cornish pasties and sandwiches to accompany the light ale have been pre-ordered from the 'Station Hotel' for Monday.

Photos to come.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 03, 2014, 10:34:07 am
Due to harbour wall repairs (ready for the winter storms) at Penmayne, more goods traffic to Cant Cove and Penamayne is expected from Trepol Bay where the harbour walls are in excellent condition!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 03, 2014, 08:51:04 pm
Due to harbour wall repairs (ready for the winter storms) at Penmayne, more goods traffic to Cant Cove and Penamayne is expected from Trepol Bay where the harbour walls are in excellent condition!
And....the Permanent way gang at Trepol harbour have completed the installation of a run round loop well ahead of schedule so that trains can, once again, run to and from the harbour area.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 04, 2014, 06:56:59 am
The managers of the Castle Brewery and the Castle Estates are delighted to learn that the PWM gang have done such an excellent job at Trepol Bay so quickly. Accordingly, some crates of Castle Light Ale have been sent in the latest van load of Castle Ales to thank them. The Wadebridge yardmaster has confirmed to the managers that the Castle Brewery van arrived safely at Port Perran and will soon be forwarded to Trepol Bay. At Cant Cove, the "Railway Hotel" and "Tramway Inn" look forward to its 'return' with the current much anticipated guest ale from the Headland Brewery.

The Cornish Loco. Pres. Society at Cant Cove are very pleased that the old ex-LMSR brake van body that they carefully removed from its chassis and then sold to a cafe owner at Trepol Bay arrived safely, too. After they have caught up with painting the new wagons for the Castle Estates (the proceeds going into the society's coffers to help them to support the summer steam train service) they intend hiring an ex-GWR diesel railcar for a trip to Trepol Bay to inspect the new harbour cafe as soon as it opens for custom and for a visit the renowned hilltop Headland Brewery.

As Trepol Bay will have a very active harbour area, (much busier than I plan for Penmayne which will only handle a limited range of goods, e.g. fuel oil for ships), the Castle Estates are now likely to be sending wagons to Trepol Bay, too, with exports and returning with imports! The may also open an office at Trepol Bay harbour.

I have so much academic work, this weekend, that I have not been able to do any painting of the new Castle Estates wagons that arrived this week or even finish Jon's brake van or mine, maybe tomorrow, Monday. So, no more photos. I regret.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 06, 2014, 08:48:50 am
This morning I managed to grab some time to 'tidy up' the black data panels on Jon's ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake van. Once the paint is dry, I will apply a final thin wash of matt black over the areas where I added more grey and drybrush the roof with grey to 'tone down' the matt black smudges. I then aim to post it off on Tuesday. (It will be sent to 'Wadebridge' for onward transfer.) I also plan to take some photos of it with my empty china cay wagons and one of my Class 22s (the 'Terrible Twins').
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 06, 2014, 09:52:31 am
I also got some time to paint the first (partial) coat of medium blue on the Castle Estate wagons (all Peco). One 7-plank open wagon will be for traffic to / from Trepol Bay. It's a sunny day, here, so I hope to take some pictures later.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 06, 2014, 03:30:58 pm
The latest quick photo updates -- very little free time and no sunshine:

Jon's ex-LNER brakevan (slowly) nears completion in Cant Cove loco. shed:

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The coupling is not broken, BTW. Just a slight repaint of grey around the black date panels then a wash with matt black over the fresh grey and drybrushing with dark grey on the roof and it's done! (I hope tomorrow.)

An overview of all the various projects and tools on my kitchen modelling table which really should be cleared:

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Alas the two halves of the loco. shed can be seen which have still to have the shelves fitted. They then could be glued together and the painting 'touched up' where they join. However, I have liked using one half as a photographic backdrop!

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The Castle Estate insulated van bodies and the 7-plank open wagon body (for Trepol Bay traffic in the foreground (plastic dust cover removed from this area) ). In the background, the body of the Castle Estate's latest long wheelbase wagon can be seen with the body of my second grey ex-LNER brakevan. Also Ratio brass windows which need a spray undercoat of Tamiya matt grey before painting; two will be for the stone tower supporting the water tank for Cant Cove loco. shed.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: lil chris on October 06, 2014, 09:44:33 pm
I thought my modeling table was bad, it doubles has my computer desk too. Like your weathering on your waggons and van's.
I intend to have a go at some of that in the near future. The wife bought me a new Iawatta airbrush last Christmas and I have not used it yet in anger.I have used one before I have a old Badger double action which is about 30 years old. I have now just got myself a book off Amazon,"Airbrushing for Railway Modelers",by George Dent.  So I have started to read it, it looks pretty good and very informative.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 06, 2014, 09:55:03 pm
Thanks a lot, Chris. I've been honing my simple weathering skills all summer; hence all the Peco LNER brakevans! Jon's van is far more weathered than I would want mine to be. Most of my wagons are ex-works as are all my carriages and motive power (there is a brand new carriage washer at Penmayne and Lady Penelope insists it is used!). However, I will lightly weather more old wagons as I enjoy it and it is not difficult after a little practice.

Many years ago, I was a military modeller, 4mm WW2 Desert Campaign plastic kits / scratchbuilding, so I'm used to painting and weathering just using Humbrol enamel paints and good paintbrushes.

I'm impressed with aerosol paint (Tamiya light grey and Halfords darker grey and red good for Early BR Bauxite and Grey, so far, but matches for Late BR Bauxite and Grey are on my list to buy from Germany, £20 each) but do not have an airbrush or any immediate plans to buy one as I don't plan to do much serious weathering.

My work table has my notebook PC and piles of books!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 06, 2014, 09:58:14 pm
I now need another insulated van body for painting in Castle Brewery blue. (I have a surplus of underframes with wheels and couplings.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 07, 2014, 07:32:14 am
The latest quick photo updates -- very little free time and no sunshine:
An overview of all the various projects and tools on my kitchen modelling table which really should be cleared:

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That makes me feel better Chris.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has tools and materials scattered all over the place !
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2014, 12:19:23 pm
Ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brakevan update time!

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The four vans (sorry, bad light) with Jon's finished, heavily weathered van (L/H) followed by my lightly weathered and ex-works fitted vans. My original grey van far left.

Close-up of the two weathered vans:

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Close-up of the three spraypainted vans:

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Close-ups of the two grey vans:

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(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-07123901_zpsbc1de0fc.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-07123901_zpsbc1de0fc.jpg.html)

Again, the end coupling is not broken.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2014, 03:04:35 pm
Alas, both my remaining Class 22s were out of service (I forgot that they're still away for renumbering and light weathering) so one of my two very lightly weathered Class 35 'Hymeks' was rostered instead to take back the short rake of empty china clay wagons and brake van which had been repaired by the fitters at Penmayne depot to Wadebridge:

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(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-07152653_zpsd431b0ab.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-07152653_zpsd431b0ab.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-07152720_zps634248d4.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-07152720_zps634248d4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2014, 03:06:04 pm
I really am tempted to buy another rake of three china clay wagons but there are no china clay mines in the Padstow area!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 07, 2014, 03:17:43 pm
Rule 1 ??
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Denemarken on October 07, 2014, 04:08:14 pm
I really am tempted to buy another rake of three china clay wagons but there are no china clay mines in the Padstow area!

First thing I was told when I was thinking the wagon's I had didn't fit the layout was it's my layout I'll run what ever I like, Watching video's online has showed me anything can appear anywhere near enough on a railway  :beers:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2014, 07:39:52 pm
I really am tempted to buy another rake of three china clay wagons but there are no china clay mines in the Padstow area!

First thing I was told when I was thinking the wagon's I had didn't fit the layout was it's my layout I'll run what ever I like, Watching video's online has showed me anything can appear anywhere near enough on a railway  :beers:

Thanks. I have my 'cover story': empty china clay wagons from Wadebridge are sent for repairs when needed to Penmayne where there is a Traction & Rolling Stock Maintenance depot. I have a Class 08 for hauling them but in BR Blue. The question is whether 3 is enough for such a working?
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Post by: Paddy on October 07, 2014, 07:45:51 pm
Those China clay wagons look great Chris.  Are they the flat or ridged topped versions?

Many thanks

Paddy

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2014, 07:56:41 pm
Thanks, Paddy, mine are:

377-475Z Graham Farish China Clay 5 Plank Wagon Flat Triple Pack, £34.99
Contains 3 x UCV Wagons with original axle box in BR Bauxite livery and weathered finish complete with flat style tarpaulin. [Appropriate for my 1960s layout. I have left the tarpaulins off.]
Running numbers B743689, B743790 and B743804.
Totally new tooling exclusive to Kernow Model Rail Centre.
http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/images/prod_40806.jpg (http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/images/prod_40806.jpg)

However, it is also possible to buy:
377-476Z Graham Farish China Clay 5 Plank Wagon Tent Triple Pack, £34.99
Contains 3 x UCV Wagons with original axle box in BR Bauxite livery and weathered finish complete with tent style tarpaulin.  Running numbers B743142, B743169 and B743113.
Totally new tooling exclusive to Kernow Model Rail Centre.
http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/images/prod_40805.jpg (http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/images/prod_40805.jpg)

I suppose I could buy these and, again, leave the tarpaulins off, if I wanted three more.

Best wishes,
Chris
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Post by: Paddy on October 07, 2014, 08:03:10 pm
My understanding is that the flat roofed version is the earlier type suitable for the BR steam period.  Sadly even I cannot justify these on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  :'(

Paddy

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 07, 2014, 08:19:54 pm
I think 3 wagons going for repair would be about right but.....I also think that 6 in a train looks good so yes, go ahead and buy 3 more.
I was in Kernow MRC this afternoon and saw a set on the shelf !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2014, 08:27:44 pm
My understanding is that the flat roofed version is the earlier type suitable for the BR steam period.  Sadly even I cannot justify these on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  :'(

Paddy

I believe through trains of these china clay wagons used to run to Stoke-on-Trent which was on the LMR. Maybe three wagons had to be detached so the contents could be unloaded for use by a local pottery near Hollerton Jn.?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on October 08, 2014, 07:21:11 am
Do you two work for Kernow's marketing department? :)

Visited Kernow's a couple of times and it is a great model shop.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: railsquid on October 08, 2014, 08:00:51 am
Rule 1 ??


Rule one would imply that it's OK to run everything but the kitchen sink; however from the photos I see the running is being done *on* the kitchen sink, which is an intepretation I wasn't previously aware of.

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Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 08, 2014, 08:48:57 am
Rule 1 ??

Rule one would imply that it's OK to run everything but the kitchen sink; however from the photos I see the running is being done *on* the kitchen sink, which is an intepretation I wasn't previously aware of.
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Chris - you don't need the baseboard !!  Build the whole thing on your worktop! The sink will make a great deep water harbour for Cant Cove !! ::)

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 08, 2014, 12:24:55 pm
I'm trying to build up a collection of SR vans and wagons to match my SR coaches. I will, therefore, return to my two metal kit SR vans vans, later. If I can do a satisfactory job on them I'll buy some more as well as ex-GWR wagon / van body kits as I have plenty of suitable Peco chassis kits ready for them!

When I was going through my wagons' box to find my china clay wagons to take a photo., I discovered that I have a duplicate boxed Peco Conflat with BR furniture container and a duplicate boxed Peco Worthington No. 3 van, both in very good condition. (If anyone wants to buy them for a good price, please, send me a PM.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 08, 2014, 12:28:41 pm
Thanks, guys. 8-) The sink worktop is about the only free, flat space with good natural lighting so I often use it for train photos. I think real water is best avoided on a N Scale layout.

I have the baseboard but it needs the insulated board sections fitted before I can lay the track and points. I also have yet to buy a Hex Frog Juicer and a DCC Controller (part-paid for). I can only work on the actual layout in holiday time as I need long uninterrupted periods to work (I hate stop-start working on major tasks). In termtime, if I can grab a few minutes to work on a model, then I'm happy (I find it very relaxing).

The next plan is to kit-bash "The Station Hotel", notorious among the young (and not so-young) London 'Smart Set'. They often travel down in reserved compartments in the CK on the 00.15 from Waterloo, on Friday nights, after partying in Chelsea, arriving at Penmayne at 07.26 from where a prebooked station taxi whisks them to the "Station Hotel" at Cant Cove. (Expresses don't stop at Cant Cove, normally.)

I know most people are eager to get the track laid but my priority is the scenic elements around which the track will be laid. Cant Cove is very much conceived as a working diorama telling stories. My hands, alas, will not always be so dextrous!
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 08, 2014, 04:28:09 pm
Time for a break, this afternoon: I continued painting wagons and painted some timber, planks, and crates to go into them. Pictures, tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 09, 2014, 10:59:30 am
It's morning in Cant Cove loco. shed and Sid the Surveyor is waiting for the local newspaper's photographer to arrive to take some pictures of the newly overhauled and repainted Castle Estates wagons with loads ready to be sent on to Wadebridge.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-09085349_zps5eac55e7.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-09085349_zps5eac55e7.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-09085423_zps52230066.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-09085423_zps52230066.jpg.html)

Later, I will be making a transfer sheet with Castle Brewery and Castle Estates branding for wagons and vans plus signs for buildings in yellow and white lettering respectively. (Probably over Christmas.)

In view of the reconstruction of the harbour wall at Penmayne, and the ability for larger ships to use Trepol Bay's Harbour, the General Manager of the Castle Estates has just signed agreements with BR SR and WR to use the timetabled goods train service to / from Wadebridge to Port Perran and Trepol Bay and with the Trepol Bay Harbour authority for imports / exports from the Castle Estates. Accordingly, the yardmaster at Wadebridge has sent out a request for wagons suitable for sale to the Castle Estates to cope with this regular traffic. Until then, BR SR and WR wagons will be used. A search has also begun for a suitable small office building for the Castle Estates' goods agent at Trepol Bay. (I will have a few for Martin to choose from once he is ready for them.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 09, 2014, 11:58:26 am
Lovely pictures Chris.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 09, 2014, 12:02:54 pm
Lovely pictures Chris.

Many thanks, Martin. Makes a very nice break from student assignments and academic meetings! 8-)

Tomorrow, the next batch of Castle Estates' wagons will be ready for detailed painting.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on October 09, 2014, 01:42:40 pm
Great work Chris.  Did you make the wagon loads?

Paddy

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 09, 2014, 10:37:32 pm
Many thanks, Paddy. No, the planks are the Peco wagon load and the larger crates are from a U.S. seller. All I did was to paint them with diluted Humbrol enamel brown paint. That said, I was very pleased at how the planks came out and the large crates. The smaller boxes which are supposed to be fishboxes are poorly moulded small boxes from a U.K. seller. The wagon load and large crates were too 'plasticy' and yellow.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chinahand on October 10, 2014, 08:28:57 am
Very nice work there Chris and I love the back story.

You mentioned China Clay wagons in your earlier post. Which make are you using and any chance of a picture of them ?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 10, 2014, 12:02:27 pm
Empty china clay wagons were always moved with the hoods on btw - a wet empty clayhood is almost as bad news as a wet full one.

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 10, 2014, 12:31:32 pm
Empty china clay wagons were always moved with the hoods on btw - a wet empty clayhood is almost as bad news as a wet full one.

Many thanks, Alan. I had not thought about that. The wagons did come with their tarpaulin covers so I will have to put them on, then.

Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 10, 2014, 12:37:22 pm
Very nice work there Chris and I love the back story.

You mentioned China Clay wagons in your earlier post. Which make are you using and any chance of a picture of them ?


Thanks, Trevor. If you scroll up a few posts you'll see my three china clay wagons behind one of my 'Hymeks' with one of my ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brakevans made for a fellow NGS member, Jon's, Weaver Cove layout. My china clay wagons are:

377-475Z Graham Farish China Clay 5 Plank Wagon Flat Triple Pack, £34.99
Contains 3 x UCV Wagons with original axle box in BR Bauxite livery and weathered finish complete with flat style tarpaulin. [Appropriate for my 1960s layout. I have left the tarpaulins off but, as Alan has kindly pointed out this is a major error.]
Running numbers B743689, B743790 and B743804.
Totally new tooling exclusive to Kernow Model Rail Centre.
http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/images/prod_40806.jpg (http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/images/prod_40806.jpg)

It is also possible to buy:
377-476Z Graham Farish China Clay 5 Plank Wagon Tent Triple Pack, £34.99
Contains 3 x UCV Wagons with original axle box in BR Bauxite livery and weathered finish complete with tent style tarpaulin.  Running numbers B743142, B743169 and B743113.
Totally new tooling exclusive to Kernow Model Rail Centre.
http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/images/prod_40805.jpg (http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/images/prod_40805.jpg)

I suppose I could buy these and make some old style flat tarpaulin covers, instead if I wanted three more.

Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 10, 2014, 07:23:18 pm
I had time to do a little more model wagon, crate and building painting. Unfortunately, I discovered that I had broken the corner off one of the vans with the corner of the dust cover over it! So, I have superglued on a replacement piece. I also glued transparent bases on my two photographers as I'm always mentioning them. Alas, I cut one piece too short and had to superglue another piece on it to stop the figure falling over. Pictures, tomorrow, I hope.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 10, 2014, 07:26:21 pm
A while ago I promised a picture of Lofty, the "Cornish Pixie" brand ice cream seller, and his outdoor cafe area (which will be) in front of the "Railway Hotel", Cant Cove.

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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 10, 2014, 07:30:16 pm
Three goods yard buildings in various stages of completion:

From left to right: Cant Cove Coal Merchant's office (complete apart from gluing on of already painted gutters and drainpipes, still to be fitted, and sign), and Castle Estate's goods office and a second Coal Merchant's office which will both be 'kitbashed' using Ratio products (windows, gutters, drainpipes, roof, etc.) to improve them.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-10175237_zps1009b199.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-10175237_zps1009b199.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 11, 2014, 09:30:51 am
Good morning from a dull and overcast Cant Cove. After breakfast in the "Station Hotel", the official photographer and his young auburn-haired assistant have been in the nearby loco. shed taking pictures of the first wagons overhauled and repainted by members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Society (off-duty local railway staff and their friends) for the Castle Estates for the circuit: Castle Estates, Cant Cove, Penmayne, Wadebridge, Port Perran and Trepol Bay and return.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-11083728_zpsf45966a6.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-11083728_zpsf45966a6.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-11083754_zpsc41dc886.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-11083754_zpsc41dc886.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-11083819_zps1639e451.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-11083819_zps1639e451.jpg.html)

The van is the first refurbished insulated / refrigerated van for "Cornish Pixie" brand ice cream products and other dairy products from the estate's prize-winning dairy herd.

The well-watered rough grass in front of the loco. shed can now be seen.
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Post by: wookie on October 11, 2014, 12:34:31 pm
Very nice Chris
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on October 11, 2014, 12:39:11 pm
He is lucky to have such a lovely assistant!  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 11, 2014, 01:16:35 pm
He is indeed a lucky man, Paddy. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 11, 2014, 01:19:10 pm
Very nice Chris

Thank you. 8-) I have bought a lot of N Scale figures for 'story scenes'. Unfortunately, this particular Preiser set is not well-painted. Eventually, I will repaint some of the details on the figures, like the hair.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 11, 2014, 06:55:22 pm
Looks good.
I like the little stories that accompany your posts - brings the whole thing to life.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 11, 2014, 07:09:13 pm
Looks good.
I like the little stories that accompany your posts - brings the whole thing to life.

Many thanks, Martin. When I first began planning Penmayne and then Cant Cove (as I don't have the space, here, for Penmayne) I was creating a 'back story' for the railway and key people involved with it. (One of these days I will write up the full story in the planning thread.) I like the little stories that Bart created for Julieberg and they are another inspiration. I have a lot of different little people for various stories that will be set in Cant Cove. For me the railway should be set within a time and place so scenery and people are just as important as the locomotives and rolling stock (which, for me, are also very important). I really appreciate all the little scenes in Port Perran, too, and look forward to seeing Trepol Bay develop and Descanso Farm which, I think, will also have some very attractive scenes.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 11, 2014, 10:58:57 pm
This evening I saw a colour photo of Class 22 D6328 on a school train at Padstow, 13-7-65: https://flic.kr/p/pCq9TZ. The stock is S15884, S105S and W220W (BR Standard Mark I CK, Bulleid SK, these two in BR SR green and BR Maroon Hawksworth BSK with maroon ends). Now, as I've based my WTT on Padstow's I have a school train in my timetable. I have 2 Class 22s, 3 BR SR MkI CKs and 1 each of the BR SR Green Bulleid coaches that Graham Farrish produce including a SK, so now all I am waiting for is the Hawksworth BSK carriage in BR Maroon. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: willike1958 on October 12, 2014, 05:30:06 am
Hi Chris,
You look to be progressing well with the rolling stock and buildings for Cant Cove. When do you expect to start the track laying, or it already underway?
And thanks for the Flickr link which amongst other things provides some very interesting photos of pre-BR carriages in all blue and blue-grey livery.
Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 12, 2014, 06:49:27 am
Hi Wilkie,

Many thanks for your kind comments. I have the baseboard and removeable cover (under one half of the double bed, the central legs prevent anything wider) plus all the track, joiners, trackpins and points (in fact a surplus of points) and a detailed track and scenery plan (see below) but have still to buy the insulating board sections which, in layers, will go on the baseboard.

The baseboard will be sea level (beach area, edge of River Camel estuary, Cant Cove itself), the first layer will be track level and the (part) second, third and, maybe, fourth layers will form the scenery above track level, including part of the hidden sidings representing the Castle Estates and Castle Brewery. However, I only have time to do major work (on the baseboard) over my long summer and Christmas - New Year breaks. Additionally, I have to wait until my landlord and friend has time to take me in his car to a local DIY store then come back to my flat and help me cut and glue the insulating board panels (which requires a whole day we estimate). We also still need to fit the three buses (wire loops under the board for DCC power, lighting, and points -- for the future -- then wire up the track and points and fit the wires for lighting the buildings (which requires all the buildings to be complete -- hence they have priority -- and positioned).

Lastly, I still have to buy a 'Hex Frog Juicer', as I have a three-way point in the goods yard for the two sidings and the Castle Estates branch, and a DCC controller (part paid) as I only have an old Graham Farrish trainset DC controller. I have never had a DCC layout before nor done any soldering (I plan to get someone in to do all the soldering once I have all the wires and holes ready!).

I'm also paying to have my stockpile of locos. and DMUs DCC-fitted by Wickness Models (only about 1/3 done so far). (I have virtually every loco., DMU, diesel railcar and carriage that I need to operate a full Summer Saturday timetable between 1961 and 1968 to / from Penmayne -- based on Padstow -- with SR and WR steam and diesel motive power. I expect inflation to return in the future and such models will not get any cheaper.) I do have a week off coming, at the end of this month and MAY be able to go to buy then fit and glue the scenic boards but I am not certain and it also depends on my landlord's availability.

At present, if I can grab a break to work on buildings and wagons I am happy as I find it very relaxing after work. I have still to construct the platforms, station buildings, goods shed, and signal box (I have the plans), the "Station Hotel" (I have my eye on a suitable German plastic kit to convert) and the "Tramway Inn" (I have a Lyddle End Georgian style house but may scratchbuild something similar). To get back into railway modelling, this summer, I have begun with kits then altering kits (kit bashing), before returning to full scratchbuilding, as experience has taught me that I still make a lot of mistakes and under-estimate how long it takes to do a job properly.

I have been using Peco LNER short wheelbase (10 ft.) brakevans (bought cheaply on eBay) to practise my painting skills on as Wadebridge had several of these in fitted (BR Bauxite) and unfitted (BR Grey). Currently, I have two of each plus have repainted one in BR Early Bauxite for Trepol Bay and one in BR Grey (heavily weathered) for Weaver Cove. Just one van takes a surprisingly long time to complete.

Like many, I suspect, on the forum, I am not in my youth and want to do the fiddly work of building and wagon construction and painting whilst I can still use my hands without any problems (e.g. arthritis). I want to light all the buildings and fit detailing which also adds to the time required to complete any model. (I am not up to Trevor (China Hand's) and others' standard in building construction but I am aiming there!) Once I have all the buildings for Cant Cove complete it will be time to start constructing those for the (distant future) Penmayne extension.

Lastly, I live in a small flat and the space to do modelling and painting and to store the boxes of railway items is at a premium so I cannot work on everything at once.

I'm glad that you enjoyed the photo. and Flickr link. I have invested in a pile of books about the railways of North Cornwall and, in the 1960s, a fascinating collection of carriages in BR Green, Chocolate and Cream, and Maroon livery of LSWR, SR, GWR, LMSR and LNER design could be seen, hence my interest in the Flickr collection of non-BR design carriages. I am waiting for Maunsell and Hawksworth design carriages and parcels stock plus a N Class steam loco. Then I have to detail my fleet of refurbished Graham Farish Bulleid Light Pacifics . . .

I should also mention my good friend, Martin, whose Port Perran (WR) and, now, Trepol Bay (SR) Cornish layouts have been a great inspiration and we run 'through trains' using duplicate models so I am constructing duplicate wagons that will appear on both layouts in Castle Brewery and Castle Estates' liveries. I also hope to see Headland Brewery vans, in the future, too, from Trepol Bay, as the two independent breweries have a guest ales exchange program which prevents the vans coming back carrying only empty casks and barrels!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-MODEL-CantCoveTrackampSceneryPlan_zps2a098b94.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-MODEL-CantCoveTrackampSceneryPlan_zps2a098b94.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 12, 2014, 02:03:47 pm
I decided to have a break this morning and 'create' the Cornish Pixie dairy ice cream logo for the vans and retail outlets (e.g. the Cant Cove cafe). The management is confident that it will not only prove to be a hit in Penmayne and Cant Cove but also Port Perran and Trepol Bay and, maybe, further afield?

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Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 12, 2014, 02:09:42 pm
It being a beautiful sunny afternoon in Cant Cove, the official photographer and his young auburn-haired assistant have been enjoying some delicious 'Cornish Pixie' dairy ice cream cones at the pavement cafe outside the "Station Hotel" served by the ever cheerful (not), Lofty, whose picture appears in an earlier post. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 12, 2014, 02:55:07 pm
Great poster/ logo Chris.
Keep up the good work.
Incidentally, I have run a schools train on Port Perran for a couple of years usually comprising a pannier or prarie tank and two old Great Western suburban carriages in chocolate & cream livery.
No doubt that train will eventually extend its daily route to Trepol Bay and beyond.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 12, 2014, 03:45:48 pm
Many thanks, Martin. Alas, my graphics skills are limited to editing others' handiwork so the pixie and ice creams were 'borrowed' from the Internet then edited together and tidied up and the background blue substituted which is a reasonable match for Castle Estates blue. Once all my graphics are done, I will print together on photographic paper the various sized advertising posters, signs and boards.

The schools train is a great idea. I'm guessing that, like Penmayne (as had Padstow), Port Perran has a grammar school taking schoolchildren from the surrounding district who travel by train (as I did from 11-18 but to Worcester). My model school term school train (d. 16.20 from Wadebridge, arrives at Cant Cove at 16.29 where it waits 2 minutes to allow the 09.30 from Paddington, booked for a Manor or, later, a Class 35, from Bodmin General, arriving at Wadebridge at 16.23, to pass it before departing for Penmayne a. 16.35 two minutes behind the Paddington train) will also be hauled by a pannier or prairie tank in the early 1960s and a Class 22 or Class 35 in the later 1960s. The trainspotting scholars try to get to Wadebridge before 16.14 on Fridays in summer to see the summer timetable relief train from Waterloo behind a Bulleid Light Pacific depart due into Penmayne at 16.23. My school train will, usually, be two old carriages, too. Maybe Bulleids? Later, when they become available two Maunsells? But I would like to model the three coach mixed train behind a Class 22: BR SR Green Mark I CK and Bulleid SK plus a Hawksworth BSK with maroon end, too. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 13, 2014, 02:35:26 pm
Cant Cove and Penmayne benefit from good marketing (Lady Penelope, before her marriage to the Lord of Trevelver Castle, worked as the PA to David Ogilvy who was widely hailed as "The Father of Advertising"; in 1962, Time called him "the most sought-after wizard in today's advertising industry") and local and county council support, not to mention help from Trevelver Castle and its Castle Estates and Castle Brewery.

An ex-GWR diesel railcar, W30W, was refurbished at Worcester depot by BR WR and moved to Penmayne for off-peak local services and specials for group hire (including to Port Perran and Trepol Bay), after local complaints of old, dirty carriages! (Must have been those old Maunsells.) Another ex-GWR diesel railcar, preserved in GWR livery, will also run on summer specials from Bodmin GWS depot (along with preserved GWR steam tank locos). A new Class 122 diesel railcar is also being provided by BR WR from Plymouth Laira; not to mention Class 22 and Class 35 diesel locomotives. At Lady Penelope's insistence, the WR has provided Penmayne TRSMD with a carriage washer to keep trains clean, too! Steam services will still run, however, for enthusiasts, locally supported by the Cornish Loco. Preservation Society.

Ex-GWR Railcars outside Worcester Carriage Paintshop after overhaul (early 1960s) for use from Penmayne and Port Perran:

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Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 13, 2014, 02:55:41 pm
Lady Penelope often hosts the BRB Chairman and the Chairmen of the SR and WR at her Chelsea parties, and Trevelver Castle's two main businesses are investing in their own wagons, as we've seen. (Two more wagons arrived, this morning for the attention of the Cornish Loco. Pres. Group. Pictures, later.)

Lady Penelope prefers the SR (she likes the elegant Green livery and Waterloo is SO more convenient for Chelsea, dahling!) whilst her husband, like his father and grandfather, is a (G)WR man through and through. After hearing that one of the SR's brand new Mk2 FKs (should be running by the end of this year, courtesy of Pauline McKenna) was going to be allocated to the 8.30 from Penmayne to Waterloo, Paddington promised to allocate Chocolate & Cream Mk1s with the brand new Swindon-designed smooth riding B4 bogies (I just bought 4 pairs of B4 bogies on eBay) for the 10.00 from Penmayne to Paddington. The SR has countered by allocating some of its brand new Mk 1 BCKs (the last to be built and ordered for the "Atlantic Coast Express") to the 8.00 Summer only from Penmayne to Waterloo as well as the 8.30! (Rumour has it that they will also be fitted with B4 bogies -- true, I have 2 Minitrix BR SR Green BCKs with B4 bogies). Isn't competition wonderful! 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 14, 2014, 10:51:48 am
Good morning from a slightly overcast Cant Cove. The official photographer and his blonde assistant have been down to Cant Cove to take some pictures of the latest wagons sold to the Castle Estates which are in for repair and repainting by the hard-working members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group:

First, the completed three wagons for services to Trepol Bay. The two open wagons, containing crates of spare parts and firewood for the fireplace in the shed workshop, have yet to be unloaded:

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The latest two wagons to arrive:

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The foreman can be seen in the corner, sitting on some timber, waiting for the photographers to finish!

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The photographers have been asked to take photographs of two wagons which have just arrived from the Castle Estates sidings (with new wagons arriving, the yard foreman at the Castle Estates has had to despatch any duplicate wagons found in the sidings) for an inspection before being sent off on the 11.10 (d) weekdays' goods from Penmayne, arriving at Wadebridge at 11:17 (connecting services to Port Perran, Trepol Bay, and Weaver Cove):

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The Conflat wagon has been confirmed for onward delivery to Weaver Cove after it arrives at Wadebridge whilst the Worthington van is stabled at Cant Cove sidings, for now.

The two photographers have had their bases replaced with much thinner, more transparent plastic (from plastic containers which had tomatoes in from a local supermarket, which is what I have used before) instead of the thicker offcuts from Ratio plastic window sheets (not suitable at all).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 14, 2014, 11:26:05 am
A new, long-term kit-bashing project will begin soon: the iconic "Station Hotel" for Cant Cove. Like the loco. shed., it will have interior detailing and provision for the fitting of interior lighting (but not as sophisticated as Lemland, I'm afraid). This is an expensive kit with a LOT of parts and I will not be rushing into converting it. Based on my experience of kit-bashing the loco. shed I need to spend plenty of time and constructing mock-ups before starting work on it.

After studying suitable German kits, I have bought this one: Faller 2275 N Eckhaus [corner building] "Hotel Sonne" [Hotel Sun] which, suitably adapted should make the hotel that I have in mind.

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The main changes will be to the roofs (substitute tiles and remove ornamental metal work -- maybe, use it for new room balconies? -- add dormer windows in the roof for more rooms, modify the ornamental 'gable') and the replacement of the 'onion dome' cupola from roof base level with a windowed four-sided tower with a small spire on top. The two 'blind' walls will be replaced with windowed stone walls (sourcing suitable windows may be a problem) and the more florid decorative details on the building will be removed. The ground floor is exactly what I had envisaged and will only need larger signboards and suitable signage adding. However, the interior will need to be fitted for the ground (and other floors). 'Lofty' will be selling "Cornish Pixie" dairy ice creams at the pavement cafe outside. I have some furniture and figures for various rooms but they must remain secret!

The two large windows of the rooms facing the sea (and the railway station and yard) will need to have balconies added and, ideally, somehow, I would like to match them with the balconies supplied for the side windows. If anyone knows of some suitable N Scale balustrades?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 14, 2014, 11:35:54 am
Looking forward to this. Seems like a big and challenging hob to me but I'm sure it will look great when done.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 14, 2014, 11:41:42 am
Thanks, Martin. It may well be a job for the Christmas / New Year break; which gives me plenty of time to mull things over and construct some cardboard mockups. I think it will be fine to replace the 'blind' walls with plain stone walls (but with added windows) as these would not be the sides seen from the road by the arriving guests.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on October 14, 2014, 01:12:13 pm
I'm guessing the onion dome will be the first piece left in the box  :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 14, 2014, 01:18:45 pm
I'm guessing the onion dome will be the first piece left in the box  :D

It certainly will be! 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on October 14, 2014, 03:47:56 pm
Looking forward to seeing the hotel progress Chris.

Best of luck.

Paddy
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Post by: jonclox on October 14, 2014, 04:34:32 pm
I find that Faller kits are very good for price and quality. The only thing that lets them down to my mind is the colour of the plastics. Change/spray a basic colour over the top and they become a good kits to bash/modify.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 14, 2014, 04:35:10 pm
The first task is to select appropriate plastic rough stone wall sheets big enough to replace the two 'blind' side walls. I'm open to recommendations.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 14, 2014, 04:41:58 pm
Thank you, Paddy and Jon. I certainly agree with you, Jon, about the need to paint the Faller kits rather than leave them in their the 'gaudy' plastic colours. I will spray all the parts with Tamiya matt grey plastic undercoat (as I have done with all my plastic kits and plastic sheets).

I made enough mistakes (fortunately all correctable) with the relatively simple task of kit-bashing the loco. shed so this hotel conversion needs to be a slow, carefully thought out process.

I will document it, here, though, in the hope that others may learn from my errors and give advice.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 14, 2014, 04:57:37 pm
The Wadebridge yardmaster has just telephoned his colleague at Cant Cove to confirm that the BR Conflat, with Furniture Container, has left on a special goods train to Weaver Cove.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on October 14, 2014, 07:04:23 pm
The Wadebridge yardmaster has just telephoned his colleague at Cant Cove to confirm that the BR Conflat, with Furniture Container, has left on a special goods train to Weaver Cove.

Thanks Chris I was told today it will be passing through on its way up to station and goods yards where it will be picked up and join a rake of conflats from Plymouth up to Exeter
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 14, 2014, 07:09:20 pm
Thanks, Jon. I'll look forward to the photo. of it in your Conflat rake. The last Conflats went out of revenue service in the early 1970s so they are well within your chosen period. (The Conflat Ls lasted until the end of that decade.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 14, 2014, 10:12:00 pm
The marketing department of the Castle Estates is looking to expand its customer base; could a Castle Estate liveried standard ventilated van make an appearance on other railway layouts, soon? 8-) The Castle Brewery is a bit more cautious about sending its prize-winning ales too far away but its liveried vans are also likely to be seen further afield within the West Country.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on October 14, 2014, 11:13:13 pm
The marketing department of the Castle Estates is looking to expand its customer base; could a Castle Estate liveried standard ventilated van make an appearance on other railway layouts, soon? 8-) The Castle Brewery is a bit more cautious about sending its prize-winning ales too far away but its liveried vans are also likely to be seen further afield within the West Country.

I'm open to them running through Weaver Cove.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 15, 2014, 03:27:06 pm
Thanks, Jon. I think there will be at least one spare covered van (standard ventilated or refrigerated / insulated) and one open wagon available in Castle Estates (lighter blue) or Castle Brewery (darker blue) liveries once all the secondhand wagons I've bought on eBay arrive and have been painted.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on October 15, 2014, 06:55:19 pm
Thanks, Jon. I think there will be at least one spare covered van (standard ventilated or refrigerated / insulated) and one open wagon available in Castle Estates (lighter blue) or Castle Brewery (darker blue) liveries once all the secondhand wagons I've bought on eBay arrive and have been painted.

Just let me know when they are ready Chris.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 15, 2014, 07:21:05 pm
Thanks, Jon. Here are the first set (of, now, three sets) of three Castle Estate wagons for through services to / from Port Perran, Trepol Bay, and Weaver Cove from / to Cant Cove:

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I have yet to add the 'ropes' to the crates.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 15, 2014, 07:52:52 pm
Lovely looking wagons - as ever and looks like the photographer and his assistant got some good snaps.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 15, 2014, 08:10:38 pm
Thanks, Martin. Yes, the photographer and his assistant were able to wait until they could catch the late afternoon sunshine in Cant Cove.

I'm waiting for more wagons and vans to arrive and to complete some wagons and vans I already have.

Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 16, 2014, 09:20:32 am
Three interesting old vans arrived at Cant Cove for inspection and photos. this morning:

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From left to right: two ex-SR refrigerated / insulated vans in BR Bauxite (bought, as a pair, on eBay, very nicely painted) and an old pre-BR design 'NE' Fish Van resprayed by me in BR Early Bauxite (I should have a second one of these soon and it will also be resprayed). I should have some Fish Van transfers arriving soon to put on them but have no idea where the transfers should be placed? These vans will be used for local traffic to / from Port Perran and Trepol Bay and from / to Cant Cove:and the first two will supplement the Castle Estate and Castle Brewery liveried versions of these vans.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 17, 2014, 11:18:11 am
Greetings from an overcast Cant Cove.

There have been some arrivals and departures at Cant Cove. Here are the arrivals.

First, an old open wagon has come down via the Somerset & Dorset for repair and repainting in Castle Estates livery for deliveries to Weaver Cove for local farmers:

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Second, two of the Castle Estates' prize black bulls are about to be loaded into a cattle truck for a local farmer at Port Perran and one at Descanso Farm. (The track to Cant Cove's cattle loading platform is under repair.)

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Third, the first of a pair of identical 5-plank open wagons is being serviced before despatch to Trepol Bay where local painters will reliver it in Headland Brewery colours, later this year:

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Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 17, 2014, 01:54:59 pm
With the photographers gone, the Cornish Loco. Pres. Group members have got to work on the wagons, removing the markings and preparing them from painting after checking the chassis, wheels, and couplings. The wagon for the Headland Brewery is ready for despatch and that for traffic to Weaver Cove is ready for painting. However, the goods train train to Wadebridge has left and the next train will be on Saturday when they will leave for onward transmission to Trepol Bay via Port Perran and Weaver Cove. (Photos. to follow.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on October 17, 2014, 05:53:49 pm
Such a busy time at Cant Cove Chris.  Good to see that your folks take a pride in their rolling stock too.

Paddy
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 17, 2014, 06:42:30 pm
Thanks, Paddy. More trains of old wagons and vans are due to arrive at Cant Cove for repainting and servicing, next week.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 18, 2014, 12:55:51 pm
Good morning from sunny Cant Cove.

Once again, the photographer and his pretty auburn-haired assistant have been down to Cant Cove loco. shed after enjoying a hearty breakfast at the nearby "Railway Hotel". (I wonder what gave them such a big appetite?) They found the members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group already 'hard at work' as you can see!

First, the serviced open wagon for the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay has been finished and is ready for despatch via Wadebridge:

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A society member is rolling a small cask of Headland Brewery Best ale (a 'thank you' present) to the Shed Foreman's office where it will be left to settle. Another member is carrying a crate of spare parts for the workshop whilst a fitter chats to the foreman who is sitting, as usual, on a stack of timber.

The 10.35 (a) 11.10 (d) goods to Wadebridge (a 11.17) departs behind Cant Cove's SR Class 04 pilot (being a autumn Saturday the line is not so busy so the usual BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4T or D63XX Class 22 has not been rostered for the short journey):

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From left to right behind the Class 04 diesel shunter: ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake van, Castle Ales covered van with casks for the forthcoming cricket match at Port Perran CC (no ex-works condition van was available as the only one standing at the brewery needed minor repairs), BR cattle truck conveying two prize black bulls, BR Late Bauxite ex-SR insulated / refrigerated van, Castle Estates ex-SR insulated / refrigerated van, Castle Estates 7-plank wagon with timber planks for loading onto a ship at Trepol Bay harbour, Castle Estates 5-plank wagon carrying crates for loading onto a ship at Trepol Bay harbour, and the serviced 7-plank wagon for painting into Headland Brewery livery at Trepol Bay. (The last 5 wagons all being transferred to Trepol Bay.)

To the left can also be seen the Castle Estates' goods agent's office at Trepol Bay.

The yardmaster at Wadebridge has informed the Castle Estates that they will need to invest in longer wheelbase, modern wagons if they want to continue to send and receive freight via the Exmouth Junction to Nine Elms fast freight service. Accordingly, three BR wagons (Ferry Wagon for Continental traffic, Tube, Plate wagons) were lent and the Estates bought two of its own wagons (ex-SR high-sided tarpaulin open, Plate) to join the Castle Brewery's own ex-SR high-sided tarpaulin wagon:

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Lastly, repainting has begun on the serviced 5-plank Castle Estate's open wagon for services to Weaver Cove. This will depart, early next week with two BR covered vans conveying agricultural products and fresh fish on the new service to to Weaver Cove:

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The sharp-eyed will note the large tin of Castle Estates' blue paint resting on a small paint-splashed crate in the background in front of an old piece of timber where the painter can rest after his labours!

It is rumoured that the Fat Controller from divisional headquarters at Plymouth and the Lord of Trevelver Castle are due to pay a visit, this afternoon, after enjoying lunch at the "Station Hotel".
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 18, 2014, 03:10:43 pm
After an excellent lunch at the "Station Hotel", the lord of Trevelver Castle with his dog and the 'Fat Controller' from divisional headquarters at Plymouth, have walked over to Cant Cove loco. shed (the lord being the President and Honorary Patron of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group) to inspect S21271, one of the new SR Mark I BCKs allocated for the "Atlantic Coast Express" to Penmayne and other Waterloo trains:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-18154612_zpsa711bdba.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-18154612_zpsa711bdba.jpg.html)

However, after his wife, Lady Penelope joins them, the 'Fat Controller' has a surprise for the local aristocrat: thanks to his wife, two new SR BCKs allocated for the "Atlantic Coast Express" to Penmayne and other Waterloo trains have been experimentally fitted with the brand new Swindon B4 bogie after Lady P. complained ("it simply will NOT do!") to Waterloo about the rough-riding qualities of the Standard BR bogies mounted under the new BCKs:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-18154944_zps491f0458.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-18154944_zps491f0458.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-18161743_zps5382782c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-18161743_zps5382782c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 18, 2014, 04:24:20 pm
BTW, this first SR BCK, S21271, Graham Farish by Bachmann 374-076A is a duplicate and is for sale. Please, PM me if interested.

I have S21264, S21268, S21271 (twice), S21272 (Blue Riband and, strangely without yellow stripe), S21275, and S21179, which I think is wrongly numbered? I'm just missing S21273. (The two Minitrix BCKs need renumbering within the S21263 - S21275 series as two of the last SR Mark I BCKs, built in 1964, for the "Atlantic Coast Express" which, however, did not run after 1964 as the WR cancelled it! However, it still runs to Penmayne, albeit D65XX Class 33 hauled, with electric train heating (ETH) fitted late Mark 1 stock, outside the summer season when the number of carriages is reduced.)

NB I know of no Class 33 reaching Plymouth via the ex-LSWR route through Okehampton but I believe some did. There was a Brighton - Plymouth through train, for example, which may have been Class 33 worked all the way in summer; however, I have only seen photos of it with Class 42 "Warships" hauling a mixture of SR Green Bulleid and Mark I stock. In winter, the Brighton - Plymouth reverted to steam haulage as the Southern coaching stock then used was steam-heated only but the Class 33 locos. were only equipped for electric heating. By the time ETH-fitted coaching stock was available the route beyond Okehampton had closed (the central part of the line closed in 1968) and that train terminated at Exeter St. Davids.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 18, 2014, 08:03:06 pm
Class 03s were used to Wenford Bridge, to Hayle Wharf and on other light duties in Cornwall.

The SR has lent Cant Cove a Class 04 (from 72D Plymouth Friary) because the WR's Class 03, D2398, is at Swindon Works being overhauled:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-MODEL-BRGREENClass03D2398_zpsc416c24b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-MODEL-BRGREENClass03D2398_zpsc416c24b.jpg.html)

Unfortunately, St, Blazey's Class 03 D2127 (used on the Wenford Bridge line) is also away:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-MODEL-Class03D2127GR_zps64ace68f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-MODEL-Class03D2127GR_zps64ace68f.jpg.html)

(Three Class 03s that were at one point or another allocated to St Blazey: D2127, D2129, D2183; I had been tempted to add D2183 but realised that I really do have enough Class 03s and 04s! D2127 was withdrawn in 1968 -- so within the period I'm modelling, D2129 was withdrawn in 1981, and D2183 was withdrawn in 1968 -- also within the period I'm modelling. John Vaughan mentions an 03 being used on the St Blazey to Wenford Bridge line in the interim between the Pannier tanks and the 08s ("An Illustrated History of West Country Clay Trains", Edition 2). D2127: 24/08/1964, arrived St Blazey; 14/05/1967 reallocated to Laira; so was at St Blazey the longest, hence I chose this one to have as a model. D2129: 07/10/1961, arrived St Blazey; 11/04/1965, reallocated to Landore (Swansea); D2183: 21/04/1962, arrived St Blazey; 19/05/1962, reallocated to Laira; 08/11/1964, reallocated back to St Blazey; 14/05/1967, reallocated to Taunton. I have read that there is a good picture of D2183 in ex-works condition at St Blazey in "The Newquay Branch & Its Branches" (plate 94). If anyone has this could they scan it and send me a PM?)

When D2398 returns from overhaul at Swindon Works in 1968 (the end of the period that I'm modelling at Cant Cove (and Penmayne) ) it will look like this:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-MODEL-Class03D2398BL1_zpsd0ac8461.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-MODEL-Class03D2398BL1_zpsd0ac8461.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-MODEL-Class03D2398BL2_zps2bb09f43.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-MODEL-Class03D2398BL2_zps2bb09f43.jpg.html)

Locomotive model renumbering, light weathering and detailing by Pauline McKenna, highly recommended!
(All my Class 03s are awaiting DCC fitting. My BR Green Class 04 is DCC fitted but my BR Blue Class 04 is not; however, the two D2398's are next in the queue!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: johnlambert on October 18, 2014, 09:16:15 pm
Lovely photos of your diesels, Chris.  Once I've built my next layout (which will be a terminus and shunting layout) I may get an 03 or 04 to work the goods yard and serve as station pilot.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 18, 2014, 09:29:55 pm
Thanks, John. That sounds like an excellent idea. Personally, I think the Class 03s are more handsome and are far more typical WR light diesel shunters. Pauline McKenna also took these excellent photos. for me. D2398 was bought as D2388 and the very first loco. I bought when I began collecting for Penmayne (later I decided to start with the far simpler and smaller Cant Cove). D2398 in BR Blue and dual-braked with SR-style high-level duplicate connections was bought as straight dual-braked ER 03 066. D2127 was bought as D2011; I have a colour photo. of D2127 on an enthusiast's brakevan special at Wadebridge still without 'wasp stripes' so had to have a model of it. D2127 will regularly pass through Cant Cove taking china clay wagons from Wadebridge (where D2127 was 'sub-shedded' for a while on china clay train working) for repair at Penmayne and it will be serviced and refuelled there, too.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 19, 2014, 08:28:11 am
In real life, D2398 was withdrawn from service on 31st October 1971, only three years after overhaul and conversion to dual-braking:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-Class03-D2398BLatformerFrattonsteamshedintheprocessofbeingcutupbyPoundsShipbreakers08101972copyCopyrightGordonEdgarCU_zps6ece632b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-Class03-D2398BLatformerFrattonsteamshedintheprocessofbeingcutupbyPoundsShipbreakers08101972copyCopyrightGordonEdgarCU_zps6ece632b.jpg.html)

It is seen at the site of the former Fratton steam shed in the process of being cut up by Pounds Shipbreakers on 8th October 1972. (It was completed at Doncaster Works on 30th September, 1961.)

However, my D2398 in BR Blue will live on as Penmayne pilot, in 1968.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on October 19, 2014, 08:35:22 am
Nice collection of 03/04 Chris.  And great background detail as well. 
I do have a question for you Chris I fancy a 08. I've being searching rail archives and can't find any based down in Plymouth. I was wondering if you knew of any?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 19, 2014, 08:48:34 am
Nice collection of 03/04 Chris.  And great background detail as well. 
I do have a question for you Chris I fancy a 08. I've being searching rail archives and can't find any based down in Plymouth. I was wondering if you knew of any?


Thanks, Jon. The model photos were taken by Pauline McKenna; the backgrounds are hers.

One of Plymouth Laira's long stay Class 08 was 08 644 which has carried a wide variety of liveries:

shunterspot.myfreeforum.org/archive/08644__o_t__t_794.html

http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/08644/Interesting (http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/08644/Interesting)

Plymouth Laira had quite a few Class 08s over the years, you can find them here:
http://www.brdatabase.info/sites.php?page=depots&subpage=locos&id=298 (http://www.brdatabase.info/sites.php?page=depots&subpage=locos&id=298)

St Blazey had 08s D4007, D4008 and D4009 (among others).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 19, 2014, 05:49:01 pm
Among the secondhand 5-plank, 7-plank and covered ventilated vans of various designs I have successfully bid for (for relivering in Castle Estates blue), I have also won a long wheelbase SR 20-ton brake van hoping that it is authentic and widely used? (I don't have one and plan to respray it in BR Early Bauxite.) However, I'm now thinking that such a heavy brake van might be better for controlling unfitted / partially fitted goods trains descending on the steep Trepol Bay Harbour branch?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 19, 2014, 10:23:46 pm
Here are the first(*) seven vans which have arrived for repainting of the various models I've bought on eBay. (*Assuming that none of the others don't get lost or damaged in the post.) The NE (LNER) Fish Van in the top left will be sprayed in BR Early Bauxite and is for Trepol Bay (matching mine), the unpainted BR Brake Van (top right) is for anyone who wants it (as is, or sprayed grey or bauxite), the two vans on the left in the middle will be will go to the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay; one will return to Cant Cove), the Insulated / Refrigerated Van will be in Castle Estates' lighter blue (maybe spare if not used for "Cornish Pixie" ice cream!), the NE Brake Van will be another ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' van (BR Early Grey / Early Bauxite, as required) if someone wants one or it will go into Castle Estate Blue (for Estates' branch use), whilst the other van on the right will also be in Castle Brewery darker blue (for local use):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/7Vans_zps56118638.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/7Vans_zps56118638.jpg.html)

This van will go to the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/BRBauxiteVan_zpscb018875.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/BRBauxiteVan_zpscb018875.jpg.html)

These three vans will also be repainted in Castle Estates lighter blue: one is for Claverdon, Warks. and one is for Weaver Cove, Cornwall -- NB the third one, spare is minus a roof, which I will have to replace (anyone have a spare? any donor of a suitable roof can have the wagon in the livery of their choice!):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/3SRInsulatedVans_zps2ad076c7.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/3SRInsulatedVans_zps2ad076c7.jpg.html)

And, here are three more vans coming for repainting. The two on the left will, probably, be in Castle Estates' lighter blue (one for Cant Cove and one, probably, for Port Perran and Trepol Bay?) whilst the one on the right will go to the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay (and then return to Cant Cove):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/3LMSVans_zps78e21a28.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/3LMSVans_zps78e21a28.jpg.html)

There will also be at least three each of 5- and 7-plank open wagons coming and at least one of each will be spare in either Castle Estates or Castle Brewery liveries. I plan that the Castle Estates wagons will have a timber load (7-plank) or crates (5-plank), loads will be removable; see the earlier pictures of the wagons departing for Port Perran and Trepol Bay. One pair (5- and 7-plank open wagons) is for Claverdon, Warks. and a second pair is for Weaver Cove, Cornwall. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2014, 09:12:57 am
The stationmaster at Cant Cove has just received a telephone call from the Wadebridge yardmaster to inform him that the overnight express goods from Nine Elms, London, has brought down a collection of wagons and vans which will be delivered to Cant Cove, this morning, on the 09.13 (d) Mixed from Wadebridge, arriving at Cant Cove at 09.22, where they will be dropped off for servicing and (most) repainting. Wadebridge has, unusually, rostered a Bulleid Light Pacific for the train. The official photographer and his auburn-haired assistant have been informed and will arrive at the loco. shed after their usual hearty breakfast at the "Railway Hotel". The members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group will be ready to get to work on the rolling stock later today.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2014, 12:02:34 pm
The 09.13 (d) Mixed from Wadebridge nears Cant Cove:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20120222_zps46b69d3a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20120222_zps46b69d3a.jpg.html)

Close-up of the Bulleid Light Pacific, Bulleid BSK and a brand new BR Mark I BCK:
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20120237_zpsd473394a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20120237_zpsd473394a.jpg.html)

Close-up of the second-hand vans:
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20120253_zps754d5923.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20120253_zps754d5923.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2014, 12:09:59 pm
Two interesting old unfitted wagons which arrived from the London Midland Region for unloading at the Castle Estates have arrived at Cant Cove loco. shed for servicing and official photographs:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20120625_zpse7d5739e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20120625_zpse7d5739e.jpg.html)

Two old pre-BR Fish Vans have replaced these LMR wagons for attention and photographs so that the painters can see what has to be done on the second van, just arrived, before it is despatched, marked 'FISH' (as both will be) to Trepol Bay for local use:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20120906_zps3a882f5a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20120906_zps3a882f5a.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20120931_zpsd570b0dc.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20120931_zpsd570b0dc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2014, 12:13:09 pm
The standard three Castle Estates' wagons and van which will despatched to Claverton, Trepol Bay, and Weaver Cove:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20121455_zps4ae77d11.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20121455_zps4ae77d11.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2014, 12:15:00 pm
The Mixed returns to Wadebridge conveying wagons and vans for onward transmission to Trepol Bay via Port Perran:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20121934_zps623123a5.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20121934_zps623123a5.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20121954_zps74ad01f7.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20121954_zps74ad01f7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2014, 12:17:59 pm
Cant Cove loco. shed interior, before the wagons, vans, and painters arrived, this morning:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20122353_zps3fd4c02b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20122353_zps3fd4c02b.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20122430_zpsd4745977.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20122430_zpsd4745977.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20122515_zps7b1cc416.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20122515_zps7b1cc416.jpg.html)

The bufferstop has finally been painted to my satisfaction.  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2014, 12:20:59 pm
The BR Standard Mark 1 BCK, S21271, seen in the previous photos., (a duplicate; Graham Farish by Bachmann 374-076A) which is for sale:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20122550_zps65d3064c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20122550_zps65d3064c.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20122614_zps94fc8dff.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20122614_zps94fc8dff.jpg.html)

Please, PM if interested.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2014, 12:24:26 pm
Cant Cove is famous for its mild climate so when an eBay seller had this job lot for a good price which could be shipped with the two LMR wagons I bought them:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20122735_zpsae4c57b9.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20122735_zpsae4c57b9.jpg.html)

However, there are a) too many and b) most are too large. (I think I will only use the two smallest.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2014, 12:27:16 pm
The wagons ready for cleaning and spray painting:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20122906_zpsade8f386.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20122906_zpsade8f386.jpg.html)

NB The BR Standard Brake Van is not required so, if anyone wants it, please, PM me. It is missing a coupling from one end and can be sprayed in either grey or bauxite undercoat.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Mrs Port Perran on October 20, 2014, 04:47:24 pm
Hi Chris.  Here's Martin (Mr PP) taking photos for you of the Bude Station model in the museum.  I thought you'd like to see him 'in action'!   :)

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Budemuseum_zps1f9c8422.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Budemuseum_zps1f9c8422.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on October 20, 2014, 08:59:36 pm
Hi Chris. I saw this and thought of you when I saw it.
http://www.osbornsmodels.com/archn0015-arch-laser--lswr-signal-box-based-on-bideford-31980-p.asp (http://www.osbornsmodels.com/archn0015-arch-laser--lswr-signal-box-based-on-bideford-31980-p.asp)
oh and this
http://www.osbornsmodels.com/archn0006-arch-laser--station-name-boards-n-gauge-x28southern-typex29-31104-p.asp (http://www.osbornsmodels.com/archn0006-arch-laser--station-name-boards-n-gauge-x28southern-typex29-31104-p.asp)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2014, 09:08:16 pm
Many thanks, Mrs PP. Very interesting to see that. A pedigree black bull is on its way for Descanso Farm (as well as Port Perran farm).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2014, 09:45:49 pm
Many thanks, Jon. It is quite similar (but not the same, it's a different LSWR signalbox type) as the signalbox I plan to make for Cant Cove (based on the real life prototype station, Whitstone & Bridgerule, on the former Bude line) and rather expensive. I have the wooden steps and handrails (as plastic parts from a kit) for my signalbox which were the most difficult part apart from the windows. The rest should be fairly easy to scratchbuild. (I have scale plans.) I won't be tackling it, yet, though as I need to build up my skills.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 01:48:30 pm
Two more wagons arrived this morning at Cant Cove, via the Somerset & Dorset, a van for the Headland Brewery and an open wagon for the Castle Estates traffic to Weaver Cove.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 01:52:10 pm
Work is already under way on the 3 wagons for the Castle Estates traffic to Claverdon, Warks.:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-21130012_zpsf13382e9.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-21130012_zpsf13382e9.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-21130034_zps94dc42ae.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-21130034_zps94dc42ae.jpg.html)

As always, the official photographer and his attractive auburn-haired assistant were at Cant Cove loco. shed to record the work.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 01:56:03 pm
Two ex-SR vans arrived for servicing; however, one was judged not to be in good enough condition by the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group for their friends at Trepol Bay:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-21130141_zps3787e315.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-21130141_zps3787e315.jpg.html)

The two vans selected for the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-21131022_zps1dd72e94.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-21131022_zps1dd72e94.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 03:44:35 pm
Twin BR WR (ex-SR type) vans for services on the circuit Penmayne - Cant Cove - Wadebridge - Port Perran - Trepol Bay:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-21150407_zps17bb7767.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-21150407_zps17bb7767.jpg.html)

These two vans are too good to repaint so I'm substituting my ex-SR van which I had previously resprayed in BR Early Bauxite for my Headland Brewery van instead.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 03:46:40 pm
Twin BR standard ventilated vans for the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay, undergo servicing before despatch:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-21162852_zpsa53cd8ba.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-21162852_zpsa53cd8ba.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 21, 2014, 04:23:07 pm
Thanks for the picture update Chris.
I bought one of those laser cut wooden signal boxes whilst I was in Osborne models (Bideford) on Friday but I got the WR version for Port perran.
They do look good but I agree, they are a little expensive.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 21, 2014, 04:36:56 pm
Empty china clay wagons were always moved with the hoods on btw - a wet empty clayhood is almost as bad news as a wet full one.

Many thanks, Alan. I had not thought about that. The wagons did come with their tarpaulin covers so I will have to put them on, then.

Best regards,
Chris
Just as an update, I recently purchased Working with Steam in Cornwall (Philip Rundle) which contains a picture of 7709 in 1960 passing through Bodmin Road with a rake of empty china clay wagons uncovered.  There is also a picture of one of the Beattie's shunting wagons at Wadebridge which includes two uncovered clay opens.
I agree though that this is very much the exception rather than the rule. Both pics taken on sunny days though !!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 05:11:22 pm
Work is well under way, at Cant Cove, on overhauling 2 pairs of vans (ex-SR type with uneven width horizontal planking and BR standard type; see photos. above) for despatch to the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay which has arranged for a local firm of painters to put them in the brewery's livery. One of each pair will be used on traffic: Trepol Bay - Port Perran - Cant Cove - Penmayne following the signing of a guest ales exchange agreement between the Headland and Castle Breweries.

Additionally, after the 'Fat Controller's recent visit to Cant Cove (must have been the fine lunch at the "Station Hotel" the BR Plymouth Divisional Manager enjoyed, hosted by the Lord of Trevelver Castle), BR WR has allocated a freshly overhauled van [actually it is a matching pair for 'through services] (with uneven width horizontal planking; see photo. above) for the Penmayne - Cant Cove - Port Perran - Trepol Bay circuit in view of the increasing goods traffic between them. Official photographs have been promised when they depart in the Mixed to Wadebridge.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 05:16:14 pm
Empty china clay wagons were always moved with the hoods on btw - a wet empty clayhood is almost as bad news as a wet full one.

Many thanks, Alan. I had not thought about that. The wagons did come with their tarpaulin covers so I will have to put them on, then.

Best regards,
Chris
Just as an update, I recently purchased Working with Steam in Cornwall (Philip Rundle) which contains a picture of 7709 in 1960 passing through Bodmin Road with a rake of empty china clay wagons uncovered.  There is also a picture of one of the Beattie's shunting wagons at Wadebridge which includes two uncovered clay opens.
I agree though that this is very much the exception rather than the rule. Both pics taken on sunny days though !!

Many thanks, Martin. I had thought that I had also seen pictures of 'hood-less' china clay wagons. I think I can still run my little rake of empty wagons without their hoods through Cant Cove going for repairs at Penmayne TRSMD. (It will be a conditional working and only on sunny days!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 05:23:11 pm
Thanks for the picture update Chris.
I bought one of those laser cut wooden signal boxes whilst I was in Osborne models (Bideford) on Friday but I got the WR version for Port perran.
They do look good but I agree, they are a little expensive.

I'm sure the signal box will look excellent at Port Perran and am really looking forward to seeing it in place.

You were asking about a signalbox interior on the forum, recently, it is the Ratio kit (for their GWR signalbox but I'm hoping to use parts of mine in Cant Cove signalbox and, eventually, the second kit for Penmayne signalbox, too; I have pictures of LSWR signalbox interiors).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 05:27:47 pm
A couple of the secondhand wagons and vans I've bought are missing buffers but I have a good supply of previously painted new wagon underframes so can simply swop underframes to make the model as good as new. Out of interest, I may then see if I can then make good an underframe (for stock) by replacing and supergluing a missing buffer from another underframe which also has a missing buffer.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 08:46:11 pm
This morning, in a rather large cardboard box (partly explaining why I paid so much for P&P) my Faller 2275 N Eckhaus [corner building] "Hotel Sonne" [Hotel Sun] kit arrived. Although it had been opened, all parts seemed to be present and correct but as there are very many of them, I cannot be sure. It is not a project to enter into lightly so it has been put up on a shelf until I'm ready to tackle it over a continuous period of days. I also need to buy some more plasticard (stone) for the outside back walls and for interior details plus source suitable doors and windows (Ratio brass doors and windows plus, I think, modified Kestrel windows for the back which will not, usually be seen). Some balsa wood will come in handy, too. I think, though, I have a solution for the additional room balconies for the front windows: some plastic very ornamental fences. The first job will be to wash every plastic part in warm soapy water then dry and spray everything with Tamiya matt grey undercoat, a job better done outside as there are so many parts so it may be months before I tackle this one! Still, I'm glad that I have bought it at a reasonably good price. I think I need to build the Cant Cove goods shed and then the signalbox, first, to develop my skills.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on October 21, 2014, 09:00:37 pm
Getting nearer Chris, looking forward to this project.

Paddy
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 09:01:28 pm
Some research points I'd like to share:

Duty Numbers (Engine Working Numbers) for Southern Region Engine Sheds, Weekdays 1951

Exmouth Junction 494

Bude 601
Wadebridge 602

So, I'm making Penmayne 604 and Cant Cove 603 (won't be used until 'preserved' steam locos. are based there as the shed closed in LSWR days once the line to Penmayne was completed).

Trepol Bay could be any number from 605-609.

One of the last rakes of ex-LMS stock survived until the end of 1964 and was used on an enthusiast's excursion to the SR. (Another use for my rake of BR livery of ex-LMS stock.)

United Glass Bottle was located at Angerstein Wharf, SE London. That is where my two BR Shoc Vans (Minitrix, one grey and one brown) will travel to and from, via Nine Elms, to collect beer bottles for the Castle Brewery, Cant Cove and return broken ones. (Maybe also the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay?)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 09:07:07 pm
Getting nearer Chris, looking forward to this project.

Paddy

Thanks, Paddy. That just leaves the "Tramway Inn" for which I have a Lyddle End Georgian house but that may be replaced by a scratchbuilt 'copy' as it seems a little too small and I want to make some changes.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 10:25:34 pm
Getting nearer Chris, looking forward to this project.

Paddy

Thank you, Paddy. I think I'll tackle the hotel after scratchbuilding the platform shelter, then the goods shed, followed by the signalbox (I have scale plans for all three) but before scratchbuilding the main station building (for which I also have plans).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 22, 2014, 09:38:51 am
Sounds like the hotel will be a big project.
Looking forward to progress but I know that you will take your time and make an excellent job of it.
The Directors at Headland Brewery are thinking about a special Celebratory Ale to mark the opening and have asked the head brewer to start considering it.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 22, 2014, 02:59:40 pm
Thanks, Martin, it is a big project as, although there is an assembly instruction sheet, it is rather like a 3D jigsaw puzzle. I will need time and space to spread all the items out and see how they all fit together before measuring up the parts I need to add or replace. I may well not be able to start on it until the end of this year if not next year. However, I will be choosing the plasticard for the replacement back walls and the additional windows and doors and buying the extra plasticard and the balsa wood I will need for the interior. (I also need balsa wood for the roof beams for Cant Cove loco. shed.)

Although the "Station Hotel" is owned by the Castle Estates and is 'managed' by one of the sons of the Lord and Lady of Trevelver Castle, there is a trading agreement between the Castle Brewery and the Headland Brewery so a special Celebratory Ale to mark the opening (after extensive refurbishment) of the hotel would be very gratefully accepted. The head brewer of the Castle Brewery will be paying a visit to Port Perran to share a few beers with his colleague from Trepol Bay to ensure that the ales that their respective breweries will be providing will be in a different style. (The special invited guests for the opening celebration will get the opportunity to vote on their favourite.) Celebrated 1960s beat combo, the Beachcombers, have been invited to play and the 'Chelsea crowd' will attend with a special 1st-class only train from Waterloo (d. 16:30) chartered to convey them to Cant Cove (a. 23.00) and back for the weekend's celebrations; a bar extension until 1AM for Friday and Saturday nights has been granted by the local magistrate. Channel Television Limited (which began operations in 1962) has been invited to send a camera crew to record the Beachcombers play. With her eye for PR, Lady Penelope said she could not resist the headline: "Beachcombers at Cant Cove!"
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 22, 2014, 07:06:26 pm
Not much to report, today. Another Ratio 229 Coal Depot (Plastic Kit) arrived as I needed two more coal 'bins' for Cant Cove goods yard plus a replacement Coal Merchant's office (for the Castle Estates goods agent's office that will be located at Trepol Bay Harbour), together with a Kestrel KD19 Weighbridge & Office (Plastic Model Kit) as the building is very similar to one in North Cornwall (Wadebridge, I think) that I have a photo of so can be 'kit bashed' rather than use an identical Ratio office (which will be kept for Penmayne, instead).

In the same package, from 'kitlady' (from whom I have bought before) came: Pre-Cut Signs.BR Platform,Pub & Street - BR Southern.(N) plus Pre-Cut Signs. Loco & Goods Depots - BR Southern Region.(N) which, together, will really enhance Cant Cove. The pub signs are for "The Station Inn" (including a very nice pair of pub sign boards with a Bulleid Pacific) which will be the name for the pub part of "The Station Hotel" which I will make some matching, in style, larger signs for. The hotel will have a separate entrance, of course.

Painting continues on the first set of 3 Castle Estates Wagons and Van for Claverdon, plus a replacement Castle Brewery van body for Cant Cove to replace the damaged body (which will go to Trepol Bay Harbour as a brewery store next to the goods agent's office). The first Castle Estates wagon for Weaver Cove is also being painted. More vans and wagons are due this week and next. However, Cant Cove loco. shed will be closed from this Saturday to Tuesday, inclusive, as the workers of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group take a long weekend break!

Photos, tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 22, 2014, 08:20:43 pm
Hope you and the CLPG enjoy your break.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 22, 2014, 08:43:14 pm
Thanks, Martin. I hear the members of the CLPG have booked the ex-GWR diesel railcar to take them to Port Perran for a long weekend break. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 23, 2014, 01:01:12 pm
The 'Fat Controller' has returned to Cant Cove (after another excellent lunch at "The Station Hotel", still open but refurbishment is scheduled for the New Year) to view two more overhauled secondhand wagons ready for despatch after the van roof has been replaced to Trepol Bay (for painting there) for use of the Headland Brewery, via Wadebridge and Port Perran:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-23123216_zpscd7bd11a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-23123216_zpscd7bd11a.jpg.html)

Three refrigerated / insulated vans arrived at Cant Cove, this morning, (unfortunately, the seller only had roofs for two of them so I need an extra roof!) and have been stripped of the text on their sides and then spraypainted prior to painting in Castle Estates or Castle Brewery liveries:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-23123257_zps71183408.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-23123257_zps71183408.jpg.html)

Here is the 3rd van in its undercoat (Halford's Grey Plastic Undercoat) plus an earlier arrival which had no grey undercoat (after two coats of blue paint). From now on I will always spraypaint a grey undercoat.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-23132940_zps79850d6e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-23132940_zps79850d6e.jpg.html)

The two best vans will go to Claverdon and Weaver Cove. One of the remaining pair will be painted in Castle Brewery livery and will be used for deliveries of "Kronenbourg" for which the Castle Brewery has a local distribution agreement. "Kronenbourg" ferryvans bring the lager to Cant Cove but these vans are 'out of gauge' for the Castle Estates branch and elsewhere. (Wadebridge to Cant Cove was originally broad gauge.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 23, 2014, 01:58:40 pm
Here is the first of two vans spraypainted with Tamiya Grey Undercoat (I think a second coat will be required):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-23144813_zpsd611fc84.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-23144813_zpsd611fc84.jpg.html)

Two more vans for Trepol Bay, an old Fish Van and a second van for the Headland Brewery, have been prepared for painting:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-23144846_zpsf3c8a7dd.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-23144846_zpsf3c8a7dd.jpg.html)

The Fish Van will be spraypainted in BR Early Bauxite (Halford's Plastic Undercoat).

Lastly, and the principal reason why the 'Fat Controller' from BR divisional headquarters, in Plymouth, was visiting, a second BR Ferrywagon has been allocated for traffic to / from Cant Cove and Penmayne and the Continent:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-23145120_zps2968548a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-23145120_zps2968548a.jpg.html)

The wagon floor has been lightly painted but the plastic interior side 'braces' have yet to be removed.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 23, 2014, 07:11:11 pm
Thanks for the pictures but for some reason, I can't see the first two !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 23, 2014, 09:02:18 pm
The pre-BR Fish Van has been resprayed in BR Early Bauxite:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-23170859_zpsce3fac1f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-23170859_zpsce3fac1f.jpg.html)

And its roof has also been resprayed in a light grey (to help keep the contents cool by reflecting sunlight) and then refitted:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-23171052_zpse5b6c33a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-23171052_zpse5b6c33a.jpg.html)

Now, it and its 'twin' just need the 'FISH' transfers applying and they will be finished and ready for 'through' trains from Trepol Bay - Port Perran - Wadebridge - Cant Cove and Penmayne. The chef at "The Station Hotel" is looking forward to regular deliveries of fresh fish landed at Trepol Bay Harbour.

The latest wagons and vans all also need their buffers painting. [Now done.]
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 23, 2014, 09:07:43 pm
Thanks for the pictures but for some reason, I can't see the first two !

I'm sorry, Martin. I don't know what happened there. I have reposted the pictures.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 23, 2014, 09:19:07 pm
The Station Hotel chef will not be disappointed.
In the Summer months he can expect regular deliveries of Pollock, plaice, sole, monkfish, mackerel, bass (my own favourite), sea bream and red gurnard. Plus, of course fresh crab and lobster. Other fish will be supplied according to the day's catch.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 23, 2014, 09:30:01 pm
And when in season (late May to July) special deliveries of Samphire Grass (which grows in abundance in the estuary just to the West of Trepol Bay) will be made.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 23, 2014, 09:48:48 pm
That sounds excellent, Martin. Now, we will have to schedule the Fish Van via Wadebridge, Mondays to Fridays. (Or do fishing boats also unload their catch on Saturdays?) The 09.05 (a), 09.13 (d) Mixed from Wadebridge to Penmayne 09.22 (a) could pick up the Fish Van arriving from Trepol Bay via Port Perran, if there is a suitable service? In the Summer the Cant Cove Shuttle (57XX plus two old ex-SR carriages) which departs from Penmayne at 09.30, arriving at Cant Cove 09.34, (d 09.36) to Wadebridge (a 09.43) can drop off the Fish Van at Cant Cove with deliveries for "The Station Hotel". The ex-GWR Diesel Railcar and the BR Class 122 Diesel Railcar are also used on this service.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 23, 2014, 09:55:58 pm
I have to admit that I have not tried all those different types of fish, Martin, although I do like fish and have never heard of Samphire Grass but then Prague is a LONG way from the sea! 8-(
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 24, 2014, 07:25:51 am
Samphire grass is a type of succulent grass that grows in estuaries, along the shore in certain places and in some harbours. It adds a real "taste of the sea" to fishy recipes and is best eaten fresh from the ocean.
Delicious with Cornish new potatoes and grilled sea bass.
It will be a big hit at the Station Hotel.
Probably no fish trains on a Monday as there is no fishing on Sundays. Not sure about Sunday trains though.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 24, 2014, 09:23:08 am
Samphire grass is a type of succulent grass that grows in estuaries, along the shore in certain places and in some harbours. It adds a real "taste of the sea" to fishy recipes and is best eaten fresh from the ocean.
Delicious with Cornish new potatoes and grilled sea bass.
It will be a big hit at the Station Hotel.
Probably no fish trains on a Monday as there is no fishing on Sundays. Not sure about Sunday trains though.

Thanks, Martin. The Cant Cove Shuttle runs 7 days a week in the summer timetable period so taking the fish van from / to Wadebridge will not be a problem. (I also have a Dapol White Fish Van which will alternate with the old design van.) The Mixed from Wadebridge to Penmayne runs all year round. Outside the Summer season, alternative arrangements will be made to take the van on from Penmayne to / from Cant Cove.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 24, 2014, 09:41:50 am
Three wagons (including a refrigerated / insulated van) are scheduled to leave Cant Cove for Wadebridge and, via the Somerset and Dorset, up to Birmingham (WR) passing through Claverdon, Warks.:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20121455_zps4ae77d11.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20121455_zps4ae77d11.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 24, 2014, 09:47:01 pm
The wagons left for Wadebridge, today, on the 'Mixed':

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-20121440_zps68a6245e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-20121440_zps68a6245e.jpg.html)

Work continues on the various wagons and vans for services to Port Perran and Trepol Bay and the those for Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay plus another set of three for Weaver Cove plus a Castle Brewery Van. More secondhand wagons and vans should arrive next week.

Spraypainting the 3 refrigerated / insulated van bodies with Halford's Grey Plastic Undercoat seems to worked out very well judging by the first coat of Castle Estates blue applied on top. The van painted without undercoat has been repainted Castle Brewery blue and that seems to look OK. I may attempt to make the missing van roof in plasticard.

The Ratio 229 Coal Depot (Plastic Kit) and the Kestrel KD19 Weighbridge & Office (Plastic Model Kit) have both been spraypainted with Tamiya Grey Undercoat. The Kestrel kit will be 'kit-bashed'.

There will be a pause for a few days whilst the members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group enjoy their long weekend at Port Perran. (The ex-GWR Diesel railcar they have hired departs tomorrow morning with a tail load of a loaded Castle Brewery van. 8-) )
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 24, 2014, 09:55:55 pm
As ever, a great job well done Chris.
I'm sure that Jon will be well pleased with his wagons.
The Head Brewer at the Headland Brewery is wondering whether to make approaches to public houses in the Claverdon area in order to expand trade.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 24, 2014, 10:04:52 pm
The Castle Brewery sales rep. has signed up some pubs in the Weaver Cove area and deliveries, by rail, via Wadebridge, will begin next month. The brewery is readying its Old Strong Winter Ale for deliveries to its Cornish trading area.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 24, 2014, 11:44:44 pm
The Wadebridge yardmaster will telephone Port Perran when he has been informed of when the wagons for Trepol Bay will be departing on the 10.30 goods from Penmayne arriving at Cant Cove at 10.35 and departing at 11.10 for Wadebridge for arrival there at 11.17. (More deliveries of wagons for overhaul and selective repainting are awaited at Cant Cove.) Normally, the 10.30 goods is headed by a BR Standard 4MT (all away for DCC fitting) or a N (on order) from Exmouth Junction (Exeter); or a D63XX 'Baby Warship' (Class 22) from Plymouth (Laira) sub-shedded at St. Blazey but a Plymouth (Laira) D70XX 'Hymek' (Class 35) (arriving at Penmayne via Bodmin Road) will be rostered to ensure that the longer than usual train with its valuable cargo of prize bulls arrives safely at Wadebridge. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 27, 2014, 01:20:15 pm
I have just collected a nice selection of twigs of varying sizes and lengths which should, I think, make suitable N Scale logs for wagons after I have cleaned and dried them (I believe putting them on an oven tray in a low heat oven is recommended) and cut them to length to fit various lengths of wagons. Timber is both (mainly) sent to the Castle Estates and (less) from it. Some timber is imported via Trepol Bay Harbour. Finished timber, in the form of logs and wooden crates, is sent from the Castle Estates to Port Perran and Trepol Bay and wagon loads pass through both Claverdon and Weaver Cove.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 27, 2014, 02:16:14 pm
Some of the wagons that will be used for timber loads (three BR ones to the left; two, freshly overhauled Castle Estates ones to the right):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-18093156_zps5cf33af6.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-18093156_zps5cf33af6.jpg.html)

All have still to have their axleboxes painted gloss yellow to show that roller bearings (for faster, smoother running) have been fitted. I now have two of the BR 'Ferry Wagons' (the far left-hand wagon) and will have a spare second tarpaulin wagon in Castle Estates livery (second from the right) for 'through running' if someone is interested?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on October 27, 2014, 05:18:41 pm
(I believe putting them on an oven tray in a low heat oven is recommended)

There speaks a man who doesn't have to explain to his missus what he is up to hahahahaahaa
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 27, 2014, 06:16:49 pm
I can do it during the day as I'm not at the university 9 - 5, every day. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 29, 2014, 11:56:46 am
I'm back in Prague and have safely 'cooked' the twigs so can now trim them into N Scale logs to fit my wagons. I'm also continuing to paint wagons for Trepol Bay and Weaver Cove.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 29, 2014, 05:13:46 pm
Hope that you had a good break.
Looking forward to seeing painted wagons and perhaps some pictures of the "logs".
I will try to post some pictures of my log train in due course.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 29, 2014, 07:18:49 pm
Thanks, Martin. I hope to post some more photos., tomorrow. Today, there was a delivery of ex-LMSR wagons from Derby via the Somerset & Dorset and a pair of ex-SR wagons from Eastleigh, including a special 20t long wheelbase brake van for braking unfitted / partly fitted goods trains on the steep incline down to Trepol Bay Harbour. Unfortunately, one of the ex-LMSR vans is missing a buffer and, as I am unable to swop the chassis (it is not removable), it will have to have a 'buffer transplant' from one of my spare damaged underframes.

However, that does mean that completion of the wagons for Trepol Bay and Weaver Cove is near and they are scheduled to leave for Wadebridge early next week to begin their journeys.

The General Manager of the Castle Estates was, today, informed via the Wadebridge yardmaster, that three of their ex-works wagons (two open wagons carrying planks and crates) and a refrigerated / insulated van of dairy products have safely arrived with goods for the Estates' new customers in the Birmingham area. The General Manager has been promised photos of the trio passing through Claverdon, Warks.

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=18048 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=18048)

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=18049 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=18049)

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=18050 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=18050;preview)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 29, 2014, 08:42:28 pm
So.....Just to spur you on Chris - here is a picture of a train of logs having just arrived from the Somerset area(via Truro) at Port Perran station from where it will reverse into the wood yard/sawmills in Perran Lane.
In the goods loop a newly arrived load of cask ales from the Castle Estates Brewery at Cant Cove is waiting to be shunted into the goods yard for onward delivery to the Cornish Arms.  No doubt the ales will be eagerly awaited by the locals.
The T9 is at the head of the 14.54 departure for Padstow via Trepol Bay whilst the Class 121 is on shed awaiting its next duty.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Train1_zps943795e4.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Train1_zps943795e4.jpg.html)
I've taken the opportunity to also show a pannier at the head of a pw train descending into my fiddle yard from the non-scenic link to Trepol Bay :
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Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 30, 2014, 11:19:39 am
Thanks, Martin, for those nice pictures. I have a couple of Graham Farish bogie bolster wagons but one is S&T, Reading one (and another kit-made one has a brass tube stuck to it) so I only have one long wagon on which I can place some big logs. I will use some of my Peco long wheelbase wagons instead and, as I have another ex-SR tarpaulin wagon coming, I can paint a duplicate one in Castle Estates livery for through working. I will post pictures later. It's very grey here, today.

I also have various ballast wagons for a PWM train including a Shark brakevan that needs to be finished and spraypainted. Once tracklaying commences (at the end of the year) it and the trackworkers (I have a few sets of these) will be out in action! My Class 14, (will be D9501), is meant to haul PWM trains but awaits DCC fitting as it is a long way down the priority list!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chinahand on October 30, 2014, 12:34:01 pm
I'm seeing lots of pictures of rolling stock Chris but no sign of somewhere to actually run them yet  :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 30, 2014, 01:14:58 pm
Thanks, Trevor. I have the baseboard, track, and points but the board needs the insulated board sections fitted on top before I can lay the track and points. This also depends on when my landlord, who will help me with buying, cutting, and gluing the insulating board sections on which the track will be laid, is free. I also need to work out how to print out the plan full-size (on A4 sheets) and place them on the baseboard.

I also have yet to buy a Hex Frog Juicer and a DCC Controller (part-paid for). I can only work on the actual layout in holiday time as I need long uninterrupted periods to work (I hate stop-start working on major tasks). In termtime, if I can grab a few minutes to work on a model, then I'm happy (I find it very relaxing).

I know most people are eager to get the track laid but my priority is constructing the scenic elements around which the track will be laid. I have still to scratchbuild the platform shelter, goods shed, signal box, and station building. Cant Cove is very much conceived as a working diorama telling stories. My hands, alas, will not always be so dextrous!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 30, 2014, 01:47:40 pm
The 'Fat Controller' from Divisional Headquarters in Plymouth, has become a regular visitor to the restaurant in "The Station Hotel" and Cant Cove loco. shed where he has joined the photographer and his young assistant to view the latest batch of second-hand wagons which have arrived for attention.

The two ex-SR wagons, which arrived from Eastleigh, yesterday, prior to the painters' attention:

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The glued-in load has, since, been successfully removed. The items have been cleaned of glue and will be painted in appropriate colours.

The ex-LMSR vans, which arrived from Derby, via the Somerset & Dorset, prior to the painters' attention:

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From left to right: van for Castle Brewery; two vans for the Headland Brewery.

The ex-LMSR open wagons, which arrived from Derby, via the Somerset & Dorset, prior to the painters' attention:

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All, bar one, are for the Castle Estates; the 7-plank wagon is for traffic passing through Weaver Cove.

The two vans for the Headland Brewery (the second pair, to enable 'through' working) after overhaul and patch painting ready for the livery to be applied on arrival on Trepol Bay. The van for Cant Cove has had to have a broken buffer replaced.

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The SR 20-ton brake van ready for use on the Trepol Bay Harbour branch on unfitted / semi-fitted goods trains:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-30142303_zpseaa905f7.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-30142303_zpseaa905f7.jpg.html)

After spraypainting but before final painting.

Two ex-SR tarpaulin long wheelbase open wagons (after and before repainting in Castle Estates' livery); the second wagon (in SR livery) is ready for 'transfer'; both will have a removable matching load of logs. (Pictures to follow.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-30142511_zps687fef8f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-30142511_zps687fef8f.jpg.html)

The two open 5-plank wagons for the Headland Brewery (to enable 'through' working) after overhaul and patch painting ready for the livery to be applied on arrival on Trepol Bay. :

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-30161431_zps1e4eede1.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-30161431_zps1e4eede1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on October 30, 2014, 06:59:53 pm
The arrival of the various wagons seems to have caused a bit of a stir with various locals turning out to see them.
They all look good.
Those two box vans are ideal for Headland Brewery livery.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 30, 2014, 07:46:06 pm
I think the excellent chef at "The Railway Hotel" restaurant has something to do with the 'Fat Controller' appearing, Martin. The photographer and his assistant are on a monthly retainer from the castle Estates to record all the comings and goings at Cant Cove. (However, again, I think the excellent chef at "The Railway Hotel" restaurant has something to do with their eagerness to attend.) Ensuring that the overhauled wagons and vans for the Headland Brewery are in excellent order is very important for everyone in the county, whilst the wagons for the Castle Estates are important for the local economy, too.

The bufferbeams have still to be painted and final photos. taken. The wagons have been booked on next Tuesday's 11.10 to Wadebridge and a Class 35 has been rostered in view of the unusual length of the train. Connections to Trepol Bay via Port Perran and through Weaver Cove have been booked by the Wadebridge yardmaster.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on October 30, 2014, 08:11:46 pm
Hi Chris I hope you had a great time away. There is some great rolling stock there Chris I can't wait to see the ones which are tagged to run through Weaver Cove.  :bounce:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 30, 2014, 10:54:11 pm
Hi Chris I hope you had a great time away. There is some great rolling stock there Chris I can't wait to see the ones which are tagged to run through Weaver Cove.  :bounce:

Thanks, John. Yes, I did. I had to return on Tuesday though because I had a meeting, yesterday, and another, tomorrow. However, in between academic work I have been working on the wagons which are nearly complete. I plan to post them all off on Tuesday, next week.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on October 31, 2014, 09:06:53 am
You have certainly got the repainting of wagons mastered Chris - well done.

Paddy
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 31, 2014, 09:15:00 am
You have certainly got the repainting of wagons mastered Chris - well done.

Paddy

Thanks, Paddy. It is really a case of practice makes perfect. I'll be posting more pictures of the latest completed batch, soon, for Trepol Bay and Weaver Cove.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 31, 2014, 11:56:49 pm
I've been busy making matching loads of crates plus (not quite matching) loads of logs for the open wagons for Trepol Bay and Weaver Cove. This weekend (work allowing), the open wagons and vans will get the final 'touching up' painting and then should be ready to photograph and post off.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 03, 2014, 01:45:25 pm
A bright, sunny morning in Cant Cove. The 'Fat Controller', together with the photographer and his assistant, have been to see the finished wagons and vans.

First, the ex-SR 20-ton long wheelbase brakevan for helping control unfitted or semi-fitted goods trains descending down to Trepol Bay Harbour:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-03140946_zpsa03f2111.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-03140946_zpsa03f2111.jpg.html)

Second, a rake of two open wagons and a van in Castle Estates' livery for services through Weacer Cove:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-03141142_zpsf2b2b800.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-03141142_zpsf2b2b800.jpg.html)

Third, two more open wagons in Castle Estates' livery and one in grey undercoat with a load of logs:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-03141310_zps2bfdc074.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-03141310_zps2bfdc074.jpg.html)

Fourth, the ex-SR brakevan and another open wagon (5-plank) in Castle Estates' livery for services to Trepol Bay:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-03141758_zps5271a365.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-03141758_zps5271a365.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 03, 2014, 02:23:17 pm
As ever - great painting and great pictures
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 03, 2014, 02:36:49 pm
As ever - great painting and great pictures

Many thanks, Martin. I was not able to devote much time to the wagons recently. I still have some 'touching up' of red paint to do on the bufferbeams, putting the FISH transfers on the Fish Vans and the gutters and drainpipes on the hut. The pair of dustbins are done though! I'm still planning to post off everything to Jon and you, late tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on November 03, 2014, 06:33:53 pm
As ever - great painting and great pictures

Many thanks, Martin. I was not able to devote much time to the wagons recently. I still have some 'touching up' of red paint to do on the bufferbeams, putting the FISH transfers on the Fish Vans and the gutters and drainpipes on the hut. The pair of dustbins are done though! I'm still planning to post off everything to Jon and you, late tomorrow.

looking great Chris. I can't wait to see them passing through the cove on a 35 or the 22 :D along with the other wagons I got to join this rake :D Thanks again Jon
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 03, 2014, 08:12:58 pm
Don't feel you need to rush Chris.
My railways will be out of action for a couple of weeks from Friday anyway.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 03, 2014, 10:02:06 pm
As ever - great painting and great pictures

Many thanks, Martin. I was not able to devote much time to the wagons recently. I still have some 'touching up' of red paint to do on the bufferbeams, putting the FISH transfers on the Fish Vans and the gutters and drainpipes on the hut. The pair of dustbins are done though! I'm still planning to post off everything to Jon and you, late tomorrow.

looking great Chris. I can't wait to see them passing through the cove on a 35 or the 22 :D along with the other wagons I got to join this rake :D Thanks again Jon


Many thanks, Jon. I hope to take a picture of them all behind one of my "Hymeks", tomorrow, heading for 'Wadebridge' from where they will travel to Weaver Cove. As you like weathered wagons, the Castle Brewery van (ex-SR with uneven width horizontal planks) will be the weathered and 'patch painted' one I mad e earlier but it has had an overhaul of its running gear! If you have bought the new Graham Farish metal wheels you might want to rewheel it though? (I have run out and will buy two more packets when I get paid in a fortnight.)

Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 03, 2014, 10:06:48 pm
Don't feel you need to rush Chris.
My railways will be out of action for a couple of weeks from Friday anyway.

Many thanks, Martin. The paint takes longer to dry than it did in the summer and I am pretty busy with student assignments. If you don't mind waiting a bit longer, I may post your box off later this week. I will, at least, post a picture of them all, behind one of my "Hymeks" heading for Wadebridge! I think you'll be impressed.

Similarly, please, hold off posting the real Cornish sand and tiny rocks until December as I will have no time until then for major work on the layout, alas.

I may, soon, have to pack up everything else that I have not completed until December. 8-(
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 04, 2014, 07:30:45 am
That's fine Chris.
The sand and rocks are waiting here until you ask for them to be posted off. I'd forgotten that the sand was in a plastic bag so emptied it out onto a plate to dry a few days back and it's now completely dry.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 04, 2014, 07:34:50 am
That's fine Chris.
The sand and rocks are waiting here until you ask for them to be posted off. I'd forgotten that the sand was in a plastic bag so emptied it out onto a plate to dry a few days back and it's now completely dry.

Many thanks, Martin.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on November 04, 2014, 09:24:20 am
A bright, sunny morning in Cant Cove. The 'Fat Controller', together with the photographer and his assistant, have been to see the finished wagons and vans.

First, the ex-SR 20-ton long wheelbase brakevan for helping control unfitted or semi-fitted goods trains descending down to Trepol Bay Harbour:

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-03140946_zpsa03f2111.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-03140946_zpsa03f2111.jpg.html[/url])

Second, a rake of two open wagons and a van in Castle Estates' livery for services through Weacer Cove:

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-03141142_zpsf2b2b800.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-03141142_zpsf2b2b800.jpg.html[/url])

Third, two more open wagons in Castle Estates' livery and one in grey undercoat with a load of logs:

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-03141310_zps2bfdc074.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-03141310_zps2bfdc074.jpg.html[/url])

Fourth, the ex-SR brakevan and another open wagon (5-plank) in Castle Estates' livery for services to Trepol Bay:

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-03141758_zps5271a365.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-03141758_zps5271a365.jpg.html[/url])


Hi Chris,

The white handrails on your brake van are excellent.  How did you paint these so neatly?  Any tips?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 04, 2014, 09:40:27 am
Many thanks, Paddy. Again, it comes with practice. (All those ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake vans I painted over the summer.) Specifically, I used lining tape to ensure that any stray paint did not go on the sprayed body. I also used very thick gloss white paint (Humbrol Enamel) and a very small paint brush. The paint being very thick means that it does not flow past where you want it to go. A slow, steady action gently pulling the paint along the top of the rail is needed. Being thick the paint is easy to apply on the rounded end of the handrail. A steady hand and bright sunlight are also important. Lastly, it is possible to remove any stray paint with a sharp craft knife after it is dried as it becomes 'rubbery' and can be gently rolled up and removed. The stray paint should be removed towards the white paint that you want to stay in place and then cut away.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 04, 2014, 01:59:51 pm
Alas, the second coat of red paint on the wagons for Weaver Cove is still drying (and, afterwards, some more 'touching up' will be required) so posting will not be today.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on November 04, 2014, 02:03:21 pm
Many thanks, Paddy. Again, it comes with practice. (All those ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake vans I painted over the summer.) Specifically, I used lining tape to ensure that any stray paint did not go on the sprayed body. I also used very thick gloss white paint (Humbrol Enamel) and a very small paint brush. The paint being very thick means that it does not flow past where you want it to go. A slow, steady action gently pulling the paint along the top of the rail is needed. Being thick the paint is easy to apply on the rounded end of the handrail. A steady hand and bright sunlight are also important. Lastly, it is possible to remove any stray paint with a sharp craft knife after it is dried as it becomes 'rubbery' and can be gently rolled up and removed. The stray paint should be removed towards the white paint that you want to stay in place and then cut away.

Mmmm, sounds like one of those tasks that is easier to write about than to do!  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 04, 2014, 07:48:17 pm
Eastleigh has had another clear out of ex-SR rolling stock and the following three items arrived, via the 'Mixed' from Wadebridge, this morning:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141104_095646_zps23a8f516.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141104_095646_zps23a8f516.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141104_095711_zps26868fea.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141104_095711_zps26868fea.jpg.html)

The 20-ton brake van will be a 'twin' for 'through' services to Trepol Bay Harbour, the SR Box Van is going to be a 'twin' Headland Brewery van for 'through' services to Trepol Bay Harbour, and the SR Tarpaulin Wagon was also scheduled to be a 'twin' for 'through' services to Trepol Bay Harbour for logs.

The second 'twin' pair of Castle Brewery vans for 'through' services to Port Perran and Trepol Bay are ready although the right-hand van (which will stay here) looks like it needs a third coat of paint:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141104_133802_zps99d45b3b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141104_133802_zps99d45b3b.jpg.html)

Two more vans and a private owner open wagon are scheduled for delivery, tomorrow. Initially, one of the vans' roofs will be used with an already painted van which had no roof. The second, a BR Standard Van could become another Castle Brewery van if deliveries are expanded to, say, the Bristol area! I'm reluctant to repaint the private owner wagon and would be happy to sell it on to a good home. (Pictures to follow.)

This weekend I have to clear everything away until the Christmas break as I will have no time for any railway modelling for the next 6 weeks. 8-(
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on November 05, 2014, 11:24:42 am
Alas, the second coat of red paint on the wagons for Weaver Cove is still drying (and, afterwards, some more 'touching up' will be required) so posting will not be today.

Hi Chris the wagons look really good. Just gives us a heads up on when you send them.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 05, 2014, 07:05:08 pm
Thanks, Jon. I will post a picture, tomorrow, so that you and Martin can you see all your wagons that are very nearly complete. I must finish them this week so that I can clear everything away and concentrate on my other work until Christmas. I do apologise for the delay (I was out all day; mainly in meetings) but you will both be receiving two extra wagons (1 BR van -- different types, 1 Castle Estates open wagon with load) as compensation, these are all duplicates of what I have so that we can run 'through' trains.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 05, 2014, 07:35:59 pm
Looking forward to seeing the vans. I'm sure that they will be up to your usual high standards.
I've managed to fit the road surfaces to the Trepol Bay bridge this evening. Currently I have various bits and pieces weighing it down until the glue sets.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 05, 2014, 07:57:23 pm
Looking forward to seeing the vans. I'm sure that they will be up to your usual high standards.
I've managed to fit the road surfaces to the Trepol Bay bridge this evening. Currently I have various bits and pieces weighing it down until the glue sets.

Thanks, Martin. That's (partly) why it is taking longer than planned; I won't send them out until they look just right. (Most are done and the mailing boxes are ready.) It doesn't help that gloss paint takes much longer to dry than in the summer and, in addition to my normal work, I have a great deal of extra meetings (the details of which i will not bore anyone with). Whenever I try to rush anything I make mistakes. I tried to paint yellow axleboxes on all my Peco long wheelbase wagons (except the two SR livery ones which belong to the Cornish Loco. Pres. Group -- one has a load of loco. coal, the second is it's empty twin!) and made a mess of one or two per wagon! So I have to wait until the yellow is dry then repaint.

That's great news about the road surfaces. I'm looking forward to seeing the pictures. From the pictures you're using a dark grey almost black paint for the stonework? (I need to paint the Castle Estates' agent's office stonework.)

I'm really hoping to finish everything tomorrow morning. (I'm teaching in the evening and will have no time after tomorrow.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 05, 2014, 08:02:00 pm
Yes, the bridge is indeed quite dark but it will lighten up a little when I weather it.
Some of my buildings will be lighter however so no real worries re the agent's office.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 05, 2014, 08:22:15 pm
Yes, the bridge is indeed quite dark but it will lighten up a little when I weather it.
Some of my buildings will be lighter however so no real worries re the agent's office.

Thanks, Martin. As we're modelling the same area (North Cornwall) and you can see real buildings easily, I'm really hoping to follow your example (and the colour photos I have of Bodmin General station building) for the colours of the stonework. I am using shades of grey from quite light to very dark. I'm also using very dark grey for slate roofs.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 05, 2014, 08:30:26 pm
Yes, the bridge is indeed quite dark but it will lighten up a little when I weather it.
Some of my buildings will be lighter however so no real worries re the agent's office.

Thanks, Martin. As we're modelling the same area (North Cornwall) and you can see real buildings easily, I'm really hoping to follow your example (and the colour photos I have of Bodmin General station building) for the colours of the stonework. I am using shades of grey from quite light to very dark. I'm also using very dark grey for slate roofs.
You are quite right to use very dark grey (almost black) for slate roofs. Granite is an interesting material and almost changes colour depending on the light. In some lights a building will look very dark whilst in sunlight it is much lighter.
Granite also varies quite considerably from very dark grey to almost light brown and often differing colour blocks can be used on buildings to give a mottled effect.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 05, 2014, 09:09:51 pm
Many thanks, Martin. That information is most useful. At least, I'll get the roofs right! In the summer, after studying the colour pictures (online) of Bodmin General station building I did buy a selection of colours including from very dark grey to almost light brown in matts (and even satins). I have not attempted to add any different coloured blocks yet but will experiment with that. As Cant Cove is 'set' in early summer -- the start of the Summer timetable -- the granite should, then, look lighter than very dark grey because of the sunlight effect. (I would find too much dark grey a bit depressing.) However, as you wrote, a range of greys on different buildings and constructions will probably, look best. the only major structure that i have tackled, so far, the two sides of the mineral tramway bridge ended up quite a dark grey.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 06, 2014, 03:34:02 pm
A last photo. of my 'workbench' before it gets cleared away this weekend ready for Christmas! (After semester ends I will have 6 weeks free, some of which i will spend finishing some of the tasks shown here.) The huts were awaiting repainting of their slate roofs to the darkest grey I have (now done).

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141106_094135_zps3169e49d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141106_094135_zps3169e49d.jpg.html)

On view are a couple of wagons for Trepol Bay and Weaver Cove and the Castle Estates' agent's office (bottom right; parts since painted, just need gluing together) for Trepol Bay. Most wagons and vans for both locations are finished and ready to go (next Tuesday):

Wagons and vans, van body for Castle Brewery store at Trepol Bay, pair of prize black bulls, and pair of dustbins for Trepol Bay awaiting packing:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141106_095036_zps90cb4b2e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141106_095036_zps90cb4b2e.jpg.html)

The unpainted wagons and vans are for the Headland Brewery; light blue are Castle Estates and the dark blue van is another Castle Brewery one.

Some of the wagons for Weaver Cove already packed:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141106_095052_zpscc308dca.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141106_095052_zpscc308dca.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 06, 2014, 03:43:33 pm
For all those who wanted to see some progress on the actual layout of Cant Cove!

My landlord came, today, with some of the insulation boards which I have placed on the baseboard in their approximate locations. (We will buy two more of the large thin boards; part of the second of this pair will go on top of the first to make the base for the uphill slope.) I already have the electric 'cutter' and another oblong piece. Work is scheduled for January when my landlord and I should have a free day. The two large oblong pieces are located approximately where the hidden sidings representing the Castle Estates, Castle Dairy, Castle Brewery, Castle Sawmill and Quarry will be under the hollow hillside.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141106_141616_zps6a80ea1a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141106_141616_zps6a80ea1a.jpg.html)

The metres of wire to go under the baseboard also arrived, today.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 06, 2014, 04:17:02 pm
I have a spare ex-LNER short wheelbase "Wadebridge" brake van, as supplied to Trepol Bay and Weaver Cove and could spray it in Early BR Grey or Early BR Bauxite if anyone wants one? (I already have two grey, the second not completed; and two brown, one weathered.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 06, 2014, 07:53:09 pm
Looking forward to the delivery of several wagons, prize bulls, agent's hut and dustbins arriving at Port Perran for forwarding on to Trepol Bay.
Glad to see the baseboard making an appearance Chris and looking forward to track laying after Christmas.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 06, 2014, 09:43:07 pm
Thanks, Martin. I'm out most of tomorrow and Monday. But, I plan to post pictures of the two trains to Wadebridge with wagons and vans for Trepol Bay via Port Perran (plus the completed office) and the Weaver Cove area, this weekend. Late Tuesday afternoon I plan to post both boxes. Then there will be nothing happening for 6 weeks.

The next step is to draw out on the baseboard and the first large scenic 'flat' where everything (track, buildings) will go, according to the plan. Tracklaying should then follow in January. I'm hoping my landlord (being a typical Czech guy with 'golden hands') will take care of all the soldering. i have 30 metres of wire which should be enough. I realise that will be a year since detailed planning but I have learnt a lot in the interim which might save me from making any terrible mistakes. I need to buy one point motor as a 'master' to mark out where they will all (eventually) be sunk in the insulation board surface. I'm hoping that I will be able to retrofit them without uprooting the track!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 06, 2014, 09:46:30 pm
Thanks, Martin. I'm out most of tomorrow and Monday. But, I plan to post pictures of the two trains to Wadebridge with wagons and vans for Trepol Bay via Port Perran (plus the completed office) and the Weaver Cove area, this weekend. Late Tuesday afternoon I plan to post both boxes. Then there will be nothing happening for 6 weeks.

The next step is to draw out on the baseboard and the first large scenic 'flat' where everything (track, buildings) will go, according to the plan. Tracklaying should then follow in January. I'm hoping my landlord (being a typical Czech guy with 'golden hands') will take care of all the soldering. i have 30 metres of wire which should be enough. I realise that will be a year since detailed planning but I have learnt a lot in the interim which might save me from making any terrible mistakes. I need to buy one point motor as a 'master' to mark out where they will all (eventually) be sunk in the insulation board surface. I'm hoping that I will be able to retrofit them without uprooting the track!
If you only want a point motor as a master, I have a damaged one (Seep) going spare if it would help .  Not sure if you are using Seeps but if so, you can have it.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 06, 2014, 09:50:06 pm
Many thanks, Martin. I have not decided which type(s) of point motor to use. Are you happy with Seeps? Have you any which are surface- or, better, sub-surface mounted? (Clearance under the baseboard is very limited.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 06, 2014, 10:03:02 pm
I've used Seeps because they mount under the baseboard. I found that others which are surface mounted are a bit too obtrusive.
The Seeps take up about (roughly) 3/4 inch below the baseboards. I have used 1inch square timber as the surround and cross battens for my baseboards and this allows the motors to  sit neatly and not foul anything when operational.
Maybe the Seeps are a bit noisy and a bit harsh in action but they do the job well. They do, however, require soldering which was alien to me (hence the damaged motor!!). However, I managed it and if I can do it so can you (or your landlord).   I have some 15 point motors on Port Perran (and an associated maze of wire) but I am pleased with them and they work perfectly. I wired the whole of Port Perran just after Christmas last year and that required lifting all the existing points, drilling out the holes and fixing the motors and wires after the layout had been built and the track ballasted. So, you have the advantage of fitting the motors as you build. Much easier !!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 06, 2014, 10:10:09 pm
Thanks, Martin. As the layout is not intended for show, I could cope with the points being a bit noisy and a bit harsh in action, especially as they seem to be the cheapest option and I'd rather spend the money on getting more of my motive power DCC-fitted!

Having an insulation board base under the track I COULD surface mount my points. I still need to mull that over.

I remember you rebuilding Port Perran station but had not realised that you had wired the whole of Port Perran and lifted all the existing points, drilled out the holes and fixed the motors and wires after the layout had been built and the track ballasted. That is quite an achievement! I'm planning to make the track easily liftable wherever possible for retro-fitting points.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: weave on November 06, 2014, 10:24:11 pm
Hi Chris in Prague and Port Perran,

Sorry but when you have the time could you explain to me the whole Weaver Cove, Port Perran, Cant Cove (and Penmayne) and Wadebridge relationship thing?

I dip in and out of the forum and have obviously missed something along the way and my tired, lazy, red wine fueled mind gets confused  :confused1:

Thanks weave.

(or is that weave cove - cant cope)

Cheers  :beers:

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 06, 2014, 10:36:02 pm
Hi Weave,

Delighted to explain. Martin (Port Perran) announced that he wanted to model a North Cornwall SR line extension to Trepol Bay from his excellent layout, Port Perran WR, at around the same time that I began work on another North Cornwall line (Cant Cove and Penmayne): SR with WR running powers which became fully WR. I am beginning with modelling the only station, Cant Cove, on this mythical line from Penmayne (across the River Camel from Padstow) to Wadebridge. (Penmayne is planned for the future, a sis, maybe Wadebridge). We decided that it would be nice to run 'through' trains and running them via Wadebridge makes geographical sense. So I have painted some duplicate wagons and vans in the livery of two of the businesses located near Cant Cove station: the Castle Estates and the Castle Brewery. Others, including Claverdon and Weaver Cove (also set in Cornwall) wanted to join in the fun so I have painted and sent them duplicate wagons, too. A big delivery is nearing completion for Trepol Bay and Weaver Cove. When deliveries are reading to be posted they are sent 'via Wadebridge'. Martin and I also have some common other rolling stock for 'through' trains, such as an ex-GWR BR Green diesel railcar. I hope that makes some kind of sense! 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: weave on November 06, 2014, 11:38:50 pm
Hi,

Think so...hic....

So you (Chris in Prague) model Cant Cove and Penmayne,

Port Perran models Port Perran and Trepol Bay,

jd models Weaver Cove,

john lambert models Claverdon

 and are you all just linking/swapping wagons/coaches or will the layouts ever meet?

Sorry if being thick.

Will have to print this and any reply as prob won't remember next time.

Thanks again weave

PS. Whose modelling Wadebridge?  :doh:  :beers:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: ColinH on November 07, 2014, 01:06:52 am
Hi,

Think so...hic....

So you (Chris in Prague) model Cant Cove and Penmayne,

Port Perran models Port Perran and Trepol Bay,

jd models Weaver Cove,

john lambert models Claverdon

 and are you all just linking/swapping wagons/coaches or will the layouts ever meet?

Sorry if being thick.

Will have to print this and any reply as prob won't remember next time.

Thanks again weave

PS. Whose modelling Wadebridge?  :doh:  :beers:

 :hmmm: Now there's a thought for you 4 -  TINGS 2016 should give you all time to get the layouts done, won't it??  :laugh:.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2014, 06:39:42 am
Good morning Weave. Yes, that is correct except no-one (yet) is modelling Wadebridge although I would like to in the distant future when I will have more space; it will, probably just be a fiddle yard at the end of a scenic section added to the right of Cant Cove. A scenic section to the left would then run into the terminus of Penmayne (which is all planned: track and scenery). Incidentally, Cant Cove and Penmayne all exist in North Cornwall on the north bank of the River Camel but not as I will model them.

By having some duplicate wagons between us, we can run make believe 'through' trains. (I have a full working timetable, WTT, for summer weekends and summer weekdays based on Padstow in the early to mid-1960s with some WR trains added based on the Newquay WTT for the same period). Martin and I also have similar locos. and carriages which means that 'through' passenger trains are also possible.

Martin's layouts are actually in Cornwall but only Trepol Bay will be travelling. However, Cant Cove is in Prague so will be VERY unlikely to be travelling. Thus, the layouts will never meet in real life, alas.

Claverdon is set in Warwickshire and has through goods wagons and a van running from Cant Cove to Castle Estates' customers in the Birmingham area; however, Weaver Cove is set in Cornwall (and the model is in England, too) and, I believe, Jon is planning another layout set in the West Country? And I should not forget Descanso Farm, also set in Cornwall, which belongs to Mrs. Port Perran (Martin's partner) and that could, I believe, easily travel. So, Descanso Farm could, like Weaver Cove, also see through trains from Cant Cove running! The next logical area to have Castle Estates' goods stock running is Bristol.

Trepol Bay provides a link from Martin's (fictitious) Port Perran based deep in former GWR territory (near to the area between Hayle and Portreath) with the former LSWR "Withered Arm" at Wadebridge (hence my references to sending trains "via Wadebridge".

It is imagined that Port Perran connected with the former Chacewater to Perranporth/Newquay branch and there was also a line from Wadebridge to Newquay (which would have been a joint GW/LSWR line; the (also fictional) line from Wadebridge through Cant Cove to Penmayne was also ex-LSWR but with GWR running powers. This means that trains could run from Penmayne and Wadebridge through to Newquay and on to Truro or West Cornwall as well as much further afield. Martin's portion of the line assumes that Trepol Bay is halfway(ish) between Newquay and Wadebridge but on the coast. Penmayne and Cant Cove are both on the north bank of the River Camel and are served by both SR and WR trains, including passenger trains to Waterloo and Paddington as well as other destinations.

Martin is modelling a single line branch from the eastern edge of his existing Port Perran layout  terminating in a fishing port station named Trepol Bay. Trepol Bay has a small goods yard and an engine servicing siding. At a lower level (with a slight incline) there is a small port facility with sidings at sea level with a harbour alongside with various businesses, including the Castle Estates' agents' office. The Castle Estates, Cant Cove, sends and receives goods via Trepol Bay which has superior facilities compared with the more restricted harbour at Penmayne.

As a fishing port, Trepol Bay provides fish traffic and other general port traffic for onward transmission to West Cornwall (GWR) and up country (LSWR). One of the customers of the fresh fish landed at Trepol Bay is the chef at "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove.

As mentioned above, both Martin and I have a mix of former SR/WR locos and rolling stock and whilst Trepol Bay, like Port Perran, models the era of 1959-64 (very loosely), Cant Cove and Penmayne can run trains of the period from 1961-68 (approximately).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: weave on November 07, 2014, 08:52:52 am
Thanks again for taking the time to reply.

 All makes sense now and will go back and read through it all when I have the time.

Know some don't, but I like timetables and I think they're a must. Makes destinations more real in the land of make believe.

Love Cornwall too although only been to Minehead in the north.

Happy modelling weave
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2014, 09:40:15 am
My pleasure, Weave. I totally agree that realistic timetables are must for making operations more real in the land of make believe. I wish that I had begun with a Working Timetable because then I would have bought the correct types of locomotives and in the correct amounts! (I spent a happy time, last Christmas, devising my WTTs.) I'm looking forward to running a full Summer Saturday's trains!

Now, I have enough stock for trains to and from Penmayne (running through Cant Cove) and all the locos., except SR 'N's which are coming out and more SR vans and wagons, some of which are coming out and some of which are available as N Gauge Society kits. A WR 1396 0-6-0PT and a 22XX 0-6-0 loco. (3205 that was allocated to Exmouth Junction) would both be nice, too!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2014, 10:02:09 am
The Cornish Loco. Preservation Group members have finally been able to complete the last of the open wagons for Castle Estate services through Weaver Cove and the Fat Controller plus the photographer and his assistant were present to see the finished rake of three at Cant Cove loco. shed, this morning:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141107_091500_zpscb981dbb.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141107_091500_zpscb981dbb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2014, 11:04:12 am
The wagons for Weaver Cove have been booked on next Tuesday's 11.10 to Wadebridge and a Class 35 has been rostered in view of the unusual length of the train. Connections through Weaver Cove have been booked by the Wadebridge yardmaster.

Here we can see Plymouth Laira's D7028 (sub-shedded at St. Blazey and often running from Penmayne) at the head of the Weaver Cove portion of the scheduled goods train to Wadebridge:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141107_114655_zps8078dd18.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141107_114655_zps8078dd18.jpg.html)

A close-up of the Castle Estates' (lighter blue) and Castle Brewery (weathered dark blue) vans and wagons with my weathered ex-LNER "Wadebridge" brake van:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141107_114727_zpsdfc4199c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141107_114727_zpsdfc4199c.jpg.html)

A close-up of the BR vans:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141107_114741_zpsf54ed455.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141107_114741_zpsf54ed455.jpg.html)

And, lastly, a close-up of D7028:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141107_114804_zpscbe486a9.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141107_114804_zpscbe486a9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 07, 2014, 11:25:14 am
As ever, great painting/detailing and great pictures Chris.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2014, 06:47:12 pm
Many thanks, Martin. Tomorrow, I plan to post pictures of your wagons in the next Tuesday's 11.10 to Wadebridge, too. (Actually, they would be in the same train as those going on to Weaver Cove but the picture would be too long!) I look forward to the photos. of their arrival at Port Perran and Trepol Bay. This evening I bought two of the smallest paintbrushes that the plastic kit modelling shop had which should enable me to put paint only where I want it to go and avoid 'touching up' afterwards!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2014, 07:02:12 pm
Today, I had some emails from Hattons about the following items which every SR North Cornwall layout needs at least one of:

Graham Farish 372-932 Class N 2-6-0 31831 in BR black with late crest £110.46

Graham Farish 377-426 12 Ton Southern 2+2 Planked Ventilated Van BR Grey £10.16

Graham Farish 377-427 12 Ton Southern 2+2 Planked Ventilated Van BR Bauxite £10.16

[For all of the above:] Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us between March 2015 & April 2015.

So, I need to ensure that I have £140 put aside in my account in March 2015.

For my Working Timetable, I really need 4 Ns but one can be replaced by a T9 (from Union Mills) and two by BR Standard Class 4MT 2-6-4Ts (of which I have 3 stockpiled).

31831 is ideal for a North Cornwall layout set in the 1950s as it was shedded at 72A Exmouth Junction (Exeter) from 1952 to 1959 but was at 75A Brighton in 1963 and was withdrawn in April 1965. However, it might be better to renumber it 31841 as it was shedded at 72A Exmouth Junction (Exeter) from 1955 to 1963 and was withdrawn in March 1964. Another even better possibility is 31834 as it was shedded at 72A Exmouth Junction (Exeter) from 1952 to 1963 and was withdrawn in September 1964. So, 31834 it will be! 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 07, 2014, 07:05:31 pm
Thanks Chris. I look forward to the train arriving at Port Perran. Unfortunately, pictures may be delayed as both Port Perran and Trepol Bay (and Descanso Farm for that matter) have been packed away and stored as we have guests arriving on Sunday for 8 days or so.
It may then take another few days to restore the bedroom to a railway room. Although all the layouts are designed to be portable and easily stowable for when we have guests, it is hard and time consuming work to set everything up again.
I have , by the way, been experimenting with the livery for the Headland Brewery box vans. As you know, I want the vans to be black with gold trimming (representing the Cornish gold and black). To that end, the head brewer has come up with what he hopes will be a winner- namely Triple Spot Ale (ABV - 5.8%).
The vans will be adorned to represent this but it will be a very simple design. I purchased a gold paint pen today (from The Range)which should make it relatively easy(hopefully) to add the detail to the vans. Not sure that I can get near to the perfection which you have achieved though !
I'll post pictures of the "trial" van eventually but it may be in a couple of weeks time.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 07, 2014, 07:08:12 pm
Today, I had some emails from Hattons about the following items which every SR North Cornwall layout needs at least one of:

Graham Farish 372-932 Class N 2-6-0 31831 in BR black with late crest £110.46

Graham Farish 377-426 12 Ton Southern 2+2 Planked Ventilated Van BR Grey £10.16

Graham Farish 377-427 12 Ton Southern 2+2 Planked Ventilated Van BR Bauxite £10.16

[For all of the above:] Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us between March 2015 & April 2015.

So, I need to ensure that I have £140 put aside in my account in March 2015.

For my Working Timetable, I really need 4 Ns but one can be replaced by a T9 (from Union Mills) and two by BR Standard Class 4MT 2-6-4Ts (of which I have 3 stockpiled).
Thanks for the update. I have one N on pre-order (and have had for many months).  Will keep an eye open for the ventilated vans.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2014, 07:47:16 pm
I look forward to the photos in due course of the goods train's arrival, Martin, and the prototype Headland Brewery goods van. From your description, it should look very good. I think the Graham Farish by Bachmann BR grey box van, when it arrives, should look especially good in this livery. (I'm including a very similar Graham Farish van for my Headland Brewery van and will add a similar Peco van in case you want to produce one for Weaver Cove?) There will also be a pair of 6-plank open wagons for the Headland Brewery so that I can also have one of these, too.

The Triple Spot Ale (ABV - 5.8%) sounds excellent and, I'm sure will be a popular guest ale within the Castle Brewery trading area which now includes Weaver Cove and enquiries are being made in the Bristol area! The Castle Brewery's Old Strong Winter Ale (ABV - 5.5%), which the head brewer describes as "a very fruity, full-bodied late hop dark brew" is now available and proving as popular as always.

My N has been on backorder for many months, too, as have the two vans. However, the N Gauge Society also makes a kit for SR Vans and I mean to try one of those, next year. (My experience of the two whitemetal kits has, as you know, not been a happy one although one has been re-assembled and glued to its chassis there is a noticeable gap between the roof and the body which I need to fill before completing the first on and then tackling the second.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: johnlambert on November 07, 2014, 08:54:27 pm

Here we can see Plymouth Laira's D7028 (sub-shedded at St. Blazey and often running from Penmayne) at the head of the train to Wadebridge:

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141107_114655_zps8078dd18.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141107_114655_zps8078dd18.jpg.html[/url])



Hi Chris.  I love that photo, but I couldn't help feeling that the train looked familiar.

Not quite the same vehicles but here's another train with the Castle Estates wagons, behind D7084 (a Bristol Bath Rd Loco, I think).
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/37/thumb_18351.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18351)

Sorry for the minor thread hijack but I couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2014, 10:25:17 pm
No problem, John. It's always nice to see pictures of model Hymeks and, of course, Castle Estates' wagons. 8-) Pauline McKenna lightly weathered the roof of my two "Hymeks" to look more realistic.

"Hymek" D7084 was indeed a Bristol (Bath Road, 82A) loco. and D7028 a Plymouth Laira (84A) one in the mid-1960s.

Tomorrow, there should be a picture of an even longer train bound for Port Perran and Trepol Bay. Both Weaver Cove and PP & TP have an additional 5-plank wagon.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 07, 2014, 10:32:22 pm
Thanks for the picture John.
The Hymeks are such distinctive locomotives (along with the Westens ).
I remember , as a small lad, seeing the early ones on trials running on the Bristol to Weymouth services (if memory serves me correctly) in green livery with no warning panels
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2014, 10:38:53 pm
They were / are my favourite diesel locos. I never saw them without the warning panels and, alas, I never saw them all, I needed 12 locos. to clear.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 08, 2014, 09:33:24 am
Good morning from a sunny Cant Cove. The photographer and his assistant have been out to take some photos. of Plymouth Laira's D7028 (sub-shedded at St. Blazey and often running from Penmayne) at the head of the Trepol Bay portion of next Tuesday's 11.10 to Wadebridge conveying wagons and vans for Trepol Bay via Port Perran:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141108_100246_zpsf7bf4d76.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141108_100246_zpsf7bf4d76.jpg.html)

At the head of the train are two types of vans and a pair of open wagons for the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay, for traffic to Cant Cove and Penmayne (one of each) to enable 'through' running -- actually, one of the first two vans is a spare as an identical van has been posted to Martin -- next is an ex-SR refrigerated / insulated van in BR Bauxite, a second type of Castle Brewery van, an ex-SR refrigerated / insulated van and three types of open wagon all in Castle Estates' livery and, finally, an ex-SR 20-ton long wheelbase van for use on the incline down to Trepol Bay Harbour (all for through traffic).

Here is a close-up of the vans and wagons prepared for the Headland Brewery:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141108_100310_zps7aec5527.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141108_100310_zps7aec5527.jpg.html)

And, finally, a close-up of the BR livery and Castle Brewery vans followed by the Castle Estates' van and wagons and the brake van:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141108_100332_zpsa218361d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141108_100332_zpsa218361d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Bob Wild on November 08, 2014, 12:23:17 pm
Good morning from a sunny Cant Cove.

Huh, it's throwing it down here. Still, it means I don't have to find an excuse for not clearing up the mountain of leaves in the garden and can get on with something a bit more interesting.

Bob
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 08, 2014, 12:45:38 pm
It's a really nice sunny day here, in Prague, Bob, with blue skies. I have the flat's windows (slightly) open.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 08, 2014, 12:54:22 pm
The pre-BR design Fish Van has not been forgotten, as soon as the signwriter has finished his work it will be taken by the ex-GWR diesel railcar (carrying the Cant Cove and Penmayne members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group on a 'study visit') through to Trepol Bay. 8-)

In view of the high value of the pair prize bulls (for the farm near Trepol Bay and Descanso Farm), it has been decided that the cattle truck with them will be taken along with the fish van straight through from Cant Cove through Wadebridge to Port Perran then Trepol Bay as a tail load by the ex-GWR diesel railcar rather than the goods to Wadebridge where they would have waited for the connecting service.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 08, 2014, 10:01:52 pm
Whenever I need a break from student assignments I am working on the Castle Estates' agent's office for Trepol Bay. It should be complete, tomorrow, so can be photographed, I hope. Those two very small paintbrushes are REALLY useful.  :claphappy: Earlier I repainted the yellow axlebox covers on the long wheelbase Peco wagons with the first one. Now, most of them look perfect. The rest should be remedied tomorrow. Tomorrow is also 'tidying up' day!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 10, 2014, 08:03:10 am
Good morning from a dull, grey Cant Cove. Some quick pictures; from left to right: Castle Estates' agent's office for Trepol Bay Harbour (awaiting gluing on of bargeboards and drains under downpipes), Coal Merchant's office, Cant Cove (awaiting gluing on of downpipes and drains under downpipes) and extended coal bins:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141110_082851_zps3136a1b9.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141110_082851_zps3136a1b9.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141110_082919_zpsf5fb8c42.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141110_082919_zpsf5fb8c42.jpg.html)

To the right is the Coal Merchant's office for Cant Cove and coal bins. This office had a new front wall (actually the back wall which was replaced with plastic sheet) with different windows and door.

I will be producing colour printed nameboards on photographic paper to fit the roof boards in the Christmas break.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 10, 2014, 08:06:18 am
They look good Chris. Excellent painting.
Lovely bright morning here and very mild but heavy rain and gales forecast for mid afternoon onwards.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on November 10, 2014, 08:07:40 am
They are looking good Chris.  Thought you were supposed to be packed away?  Have you got an extension?  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 10, 2014, 08:11:52 am
Thanks, Martin. I still have to put the "FISH" transfer on the two vans but, otherwise, everything else is packed in a large cardboard box ready to post off to you, tomorrow.

If the sun comes out, here, I'll take some more pictures of the finished versions.

I plan to make transfers to go on the nameboards on the roofs. I'll post you some when they're ready, later.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 10, 2014, 08:13:53 am
Thanks, Paddy. Satisfying work. Virtually everything IS packed away. These are the last three items. Once they are dry they will be packed and the kitchen table cleared ready for Christmas! (I will be restarting work at the end of the year.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 10, 2014, 03:15:27 pm
The Wadebridge yardmaster has just confirmed the arrival of the wagons and vans scheduled to be forwarded to Weaver Cove. The "Hymek", D7028, with its "Wadebridge" brake van, have now returned through Cant Cove to Penmayne ready to take out the same 10.30 (Penmayne d.; Cant Cove: 10.35 a, 11.10 d) Goods to Wadebridge (11.17 a), tomorrow. Although scheduled for a N (the 3rd N Duty in the Penmayne WTT), in practice, it should have been allocated a 80XXX 4MT 2-6-4T or a D63XX (Class 22); however, in view of the importance of the train's contents, a D70XX has been rostered today and tomorrow (as well as Wednesday if required).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 10, 2014, 03:24:30 pm
The kitchen table is now cleared and cleaned. However, I still have to add the drains under the downpipes on the agent's office, tomorrow morning, as well as apply the "FISH" transfers on the two Graham Farish four- wheeled ex-Great Northern Railway vans in Early BR Bauxite livery (a few of these survived into early BR days; another duplicate 'pair' for 'through' running). Then the box to Martin in Cornwall can, finally, be posted!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 11, 2014, 08:05:04 pm
Unfortunately, one of the drainpipes on the wall of the Castle Estates' agent's office for Trepol Bay came off so will have to be reglued (with super glue, again). However, it shows that, as I thought, the pipe needs to be glued at the bottom (to a raised drain) as well as at the top (to the gutter) if it is to survive the journey. Alas, a thesis student had a disaster so I will have to put railway modeling to one side for a few days. Fortunately, Martin is not in a hurry.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 11, 2014, 08:45:27 pm
Have just won a very nice selection of 'wooden'-bodied vans and open wagons at very good prices which I will enjoy repainting over the Christmas break.  :claphappy: So, if anyone is interested in any Castle Estates or Castle Brewery stock, please, PM me. The next batch should be arriving at Weaver Cove this week or early next. I may also respray some in BR Grey or Bauxite liveries.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: lil chris on November 11, 2014, 08:55:06 pm
Hi Chris I am envious of your growing wagon fleet, something I need to attend to on my layout. I need to start collecting coal wagons, from what I have read in a book, coal along with some form of grass used to make paper was transported  to the local goods yard. Not sure what kind of wagon would have been used to carry that.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 11, 2014, 09:07:46 pm
I have many pictures of goods trains and, in the 1960s, both wooden and steel-bodied coal wagons were used. As the 1960s progressed the wooden-bodied wagons were slowly withdrawn. Alas, i have no idea what grass would have been carried in; maybe, any clean wagon that was available? If the grass needed to be kept dry maybe sacks in vans?

It is possible to pick up old Graham Farish goods wagons and vans for good prices (as I have just done) on eBay but the older ones do not have the latest coupling housings so are not suitable for those who want to change the couplings, I think.

I try to ensure that I have no duplicate numbered wagons and that they are the types of wagons which ran in North Cornwall (from the photos).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: lil chris on November 11, 2014, 10:51:36 pm
Thanks Chris, I have just looked in the book and it was Esparto Grass which came from Preston docks apparantly. Also were other raw materials for local industries,there were a few paper mills around the area. Materials included wood pulp, Esparto grass,there was a grain and cotton warehouse on the site, by 1907 it had 17 sidings. So my 4 siding yard does not do it justice really, but compromises after to be made,my layout is already 8'x4', I could not go any bigger or swmbo would have something to say on the matter..he..he.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: weave on November 12, 2014, 05:17:11 am
Hi lil Chris,

Googled esparto grass as didn't know what it was and found this...

http://www.grantonhistory.org/harbour/esparto.htm (http://www.grantonhistory.org/harbour/esparto.htm)

Hope helps.

Cheers weave
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 12, 2014, 09:07:40 am
Hi lil Chris,

Googled esparto grass as didn't know what it was and found this...

[url]http://www.grantonhistory.org/harbour/esparto.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.grantonhistory.org/harbour/esparto.htm[/url])

Hope helps.

Cheers weave

I too have never heard of Esparto grass so many thanks for the link. It is surprising just how many obscure items/materials were transported by rail over the years.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: lil chris on November 12, 2014, 04:07:42 pm
thanks for that weave, looks like it was loaded in coal type wagons. Apparantly it used to blow round the goods yard like in the old western films, you can see why if it was just loose.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 12, 2014, 06:48:20 pm
Hi Chris I am envious of your growing wagon fleet, something I need to attend to on my layout. I need to start collecting coal wagons, from what I have read in a book, coal along with some form of grass used to make paper was transported  to the local goods yard. Not sure what kind of wagon would have been used to carry that.

I'll send you a PM, Chris, as I do have some good duplicate wagons and vans for sale (Not my repaints) which may interest you?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 12, 2014, 07:34:30 pm
thanks for that weave, looks like it was loaded in coal type wagons. Apparantly it used to blow round the goods yard like in the old western films, you can see why if it was just loose.

Looking at the photos., any type of open wagon from old wooden bodied ones to steel-bodied ones, including mineral (coal) wagons and of various side heights, too! So, any open wagon you've got could be used, Chris.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 14, 2014, 07:36:40 pm
thanks for that weave, looks like it was loaded in coal type wagons. Apparantly it used to blow round the goods yard like in the old western films, you can see why if it was just loose.
Looking at the photos., any type of open wagon from old wooden bodied ones to steel-bodied ones, including mineral (coal) wagons and of various side heights, too! So, any open wagon you've got could be used, Chris.
Should result in an interesting train. I quite like seeing a mixture of open wagon types in one train and this would allow it to be done realistically and prototypically.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 14, 2014, 07:40:01 pm
Yes, I agree, Martin. It would make a great model train formation.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: lil chris on November 14, 2014, 08:51:56 pm
Thanks Chris & Martin, fortunatley I am not in a rush I have plenty of Scenic work today Plus build a control panel. I was looking at my wagons, I have 7 prvt owner wood wagons,3 vans,1 is BR and a rake of 3 13t High sided BR bauxite wagons plus a Lms brake van and a Lms open wagon. So I have a way to go, I was watching George st ii the other night, he had a goods train with 30 open wagons, sounded good too.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 14, 2014, 09:07:31 pm
I can understand your priorities, Lil Chris.

I have every type of wagon in the picture so could model such a train but it would never have run in North Cornwall!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 14, 2014, 10:21:02 pm
Two pictures quickly taken this morning (it was sunny) of the Castle Estates' agent's office for Trepol Bay but before the final 'touching up' of paint:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-14085326_zps6e4aff8d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-14085326_zps6e4aff8d.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-14085416_zpsa3d875ff.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-14085416_zpsa3d875ff.jpg.html)

As usual, such close-ups really show minor faults which are NOT visible at normal viewing distance!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on November 15, 2014, 01:55:29 pm
That is a lovely little office Chris.  I know what you mean about these close up photos - they show things that my eyes cannot see even with my glasses on!  :D

Paddy
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 15, 2014, 02:27:49 pm
Many thanks, Paddy. I appreciate that as your model buildings are excellent. Being short-sighted, I see very well close-up but photos still show up details that I have missed but which, at normal viewing distance, would be invisible. There is also a battered dustbin and a freshly painted Castle Brewery van body as a store to accompany this little office for Trepol Bay Harbour.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 17, 2014, 10:06:10 pm
The scratchbuilt Cant Cove station building and canopy is planned to look just like the one at Brentor which can be seen here:

http://www.lynton-rail.co.uk/story/work-progress-13th-november (http://www.lynton-rail.co.uk/story/work-progress-13th-november)

Brentor former railway station is on the old LSWR route from Exeter-Okehampton-Tavistock-Bere Alston-Plymouth. Brentor old station is between Tavistock and Lydford.

Cant Cove is on the (fictional) Wadebridge - Penmayne old LSWR line over which the GWR had running powers. The overall layout of Cant Cove is closely modelled on Whitstone and Bridgerule station which was on the former Bude line.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 17, 2014, 10:41:08 pm
Draft map of LSWR and GWR lines in the Wadebridge area showing Cant Cove and Penmayne (actually closer to Rock) and the Wadebridge - Newquay - Truro line off which are located, I believe, both Port Perran and Trepol Bay as well as Descanso Farm and Weaver Cove, although this is subject to confirmation by local management as the map draughtsman has just spent the evening in the "Railway Hotel" saloon bar drinking The Castle Brewery's infamous Old Strong Winter Ale!

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-LinesinWadebridgearea_zps66197667.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-LinesinWadebridgearea_zps66197667.jpg.html)

The GWR had running powers from Bodmin Road - Wadebridge, Wadebridge - Penmayne (via Cant Cove) and Wadebridge to Truro via Newquay. The WR continued these services and, later, took over the ex-SR services in North Cornwall.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on November 18, 2014, 06:38:32 am
That is gorgeous Chris - you are a fine artist.

Paddy
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 18, 2014, 07:06:11 am
Alas, Paddy, the skills are not mine. I just edited a map from a book. It's also a first draft; I will do a better job of the final version.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 18, 2014, 08:16:27 am
Chris.
What is the best way for me to add on the approx. trackbeds and fictional locations of my layouts on the map?
Print it out, draw it on and re-scan to you ?
Or is there a better way ?

Martin
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 18, 2014, 09:03:25 am
Hi Martin, thanks for your reply. I will email you the draft version, now. If you can then print it and amend it then scan it and email it back I will replace the draft version. Over the break I will make a final neat version with all the corrections and neater labelling.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 20, 2014, 11:42:40 am
The "Railway Hotel", Cant Cove having, temporarily run out of the Castle Brewery's Old Strong Winter Ale (ABV - 5.5%),(described by the head brewer as "a very fruity, full-bodied late hop dark brew") the signwriter was sober enough to finish the lettering on the sides of the just overhauled and repainted ex-Great Northern Railway fish van which arrived at Wadebridge with a rake of ex-LNER short wheelbase guard's vans, mainly for use on the Wenfordbridge branch.

Fortunately, Penmayne's ex-GWR diesel railcar had been chartered by the local members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group for their 'study trip' to Port Perran and Trepol Bay and the empty fish van was added to the cattle truck containing the two prize black bulls who were also booked to Port Perran and Trepol Bay and the train set off in time to arrive at Port Perran for a pub lunch where the bulls will be watered and inspected before the train goes on to Trepol Bay in the afternoon.

The train en route to Wadebridge:
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-20115403_zpsb96ceb66.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-20115403_zpsb96ceb66.jpg.html)

Close-up of the ex-Great Northern Railway fish van:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-20115527_zps250cc5a8.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-20115527_zps250cc5a8.jpg.html)

Unfortunately, the photographer was not able to obtain a better close up. The letters at the top are FISH.

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 20, 2014, 11:51:15 am
The railway map will be updated, next month.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 21, 2014, 09:30:41 am
Through the publicity efforts of Lady Penelope of Cant Castle, tourist traffic from Paddington, Waterloo, Bristol, Wales (Cardiff) the Midlands (Birmingham), and the NW (Manchester) and NE (York) of England continues to rise with through trains in the summer timetable running through Wadebridge to Penmayne and other major local destinations where they connect with augmented local services. The North Cornwall Rover ticket valid for local trains and buses marketed jointly by BR SR and WR and Cornish local authorities is proving to be a great success; so much so that overhauled (ex-Worcester shed) ex-GWR diesel railcars have been drafted in to supplement Plymouth Laira's allocation of Gloucester R.C. & W. Co and Pressed Steel Co. diesel railcars (which later became Class 122 and 121). The efforts of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group (sponsored by the Castle Brewery), GWS Bodmin and Port Perran (sponsored by the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay) to support continued steam passenger trains, including the "Atlantic Coast Express" hauled by a small stud of overhauled Bulleid Light Pacifics and a pair of T9s and 700 Class 'Black Motors' amongst others maintained by the Cornish LPG, in the summer timetable also are proving very successful at attracting passenger traffic; outside the summer season a shortened "ACE" still runs but D65XX (Class 33) hauled. Last but by no means least, the delicious cornish pasties produced in Port Perran and the excellent food prepared by the new chef at the just refurbished "Railway Hotel", Cant Cove, are also bringing more visitors to the area to the delight of local publicans and hotel owners!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on November 21, 2014, 09:34:19 am
Through the publicity efforts of Lady Penelope of Cant Castle, tourist traffic from Paddington, Waterloo, Bristol, Wales (Cardiff) the Midlands (Birmingham), and the NW (Manchester) and NE (York) of England continues to rise with through trains in the summer timetable running through Wadebridge to Penmayne and other major local destinations where they connect with augmented local services. The North Cornwall Rover ticket valid for local trains and buses marketed jointly by BR SR and WR and Cornish local authorities is proving to be a great success; so much so that overhauled (ex-Worcester shed) ex-GWR diesel railcars have been drafted in to supplement Plymouth Laira's allocation of Gloucester R.C. & W. Co and Pressed Steel Co. diesel railcars (which later became Class 122 and 121). The efforts of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group (sponsored by the Castle Brewery), GWS Bodmin and Port Perran (sponsored by the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay) to support continued steam passenger trains, including the "Atlantic Coast Express" hauled by a small stud of overhauled Bulleid Light Pacifics maintained by the Cornish LPG, in the summer timetable also are proving very successful at attracting passenger traffic; outside the summer season the "ACE" still runs but Class 33 hauled. Last but by no means least, the delicious cornish pasties produced in Port Perran and the excellent food prepared by the new chef at the just refurbished "Railway Hotel", Cant Cove, are also bringing more visitors to the area to the delight of local publicans and hotel owners!

Sounds like Lady Penelope and Co. are transforming the local economy.  More power to their elbows!

Paddy
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 21, 2014, 09:58:53 am
Thanks, Paddy. Lady Penelope is a very energetic woman who learned all about marketing and PR when she was the secretary, in Manhattan, U.S.A., of David Ogilvy, a British advertising executive who was widely hailed as "The Father of Advertising". After returning to England, following her marriage to the Lord of Trevelver Castle, near Cant Cove, whilst her husband overhauled the Castle Estates and the Castle Brewery, his wife devoted her time to improving the marketing of the family businesses. She soon realised that publicising the region helped the family businesses grow outside Cornwall, as well as the wider community, and expanded her marketing and social activities (including her famous Chelsea parties). Her husband being prominent in local politics was also a great help. Later, her equally intelligent, vivacious, and beautiful daughter, who became involved in the London scene of the "Swinging Sixties" as well as her mother, brought a younger generation of pop musicians, photographers and artists to the area hosting parties in a reserved carriage of the 00.15 from Waterloo to Penmayne (arrival 07.26), one of the Southern Region's very latest Mark II FKs being allocated for her, thanks to her mother's friendship with the General Manager of the SR at Waterloo! (The carriage gangway door to the adjoining Maunsell 3L set (BSK+CK+BSK)+loose SK being locked.) One of the SR's new RMB Mini Buffets (S1849-52) has even been known to appear, next to the FK, upgraded to 1st class, its tables complete with starched damask tableclothes and the finest cutlery, crystal glasses and china porcelain from the family's Chelsea townhouse, overseen by the family's formidable Head Butler (ex-SAS) and staffed by the chef and his assistants from "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove, with casks / barrels of Castle Brewery, Headland Brewery and Kronenbourg on tap together with a selection of fine wines supplied by an up and coming Chelsea wine merchant, Giles (also ex-SAS), and mineral water from a spring on, where else, the Castle Estates! Meanwhile, her dissolute brother 'manages' "The Railway Hotel" famous for its restaurant's excellent cuisine but notorious for its popularity with couples wanting to escape the possibility of being seen together and, with his German hippy wife, Brigita, the restaurant on a rock off the beach at Penmayne, (very popular with the Pink Floyd), famous for its Greek cuisine, never closing and serving alcohol at all hours of the summer season! The fact that the Restaurant on the Rock is cut off every high tide adds to its appeal. An ex-GWR semaphore signal mounted on the rock outside the white-washed restaurant signals (literally) when it is open.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Mito on November 21, 2014, 05:55:29 pm
What superb imagination you have :thumbsup:
It makes everything seem so real and elevates the reality of a model to almost reality.
Well done :claphappy:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 21, 2014, 06:07:43 pm
Great stuff Chris.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 21, 2014, 09:54:00 pm
Many thanks Mito and Martin. Over Christmas I plan to write up (on the layout planning thread) the full history of the Wadebridge to Penmayne Railway and the part played by the Lords of Trevelver Castle in the development of the area and its railways. I will also write more of the family's current (1960s) members, the Castle Estates, the Castle Brewery, the Cornish Locomotive Preservation Group and how the "Atlantic Coast Express" kept running behind Bulleid Light Pacifics until 1968 (the end of steam ln BR)!

As far as possible, the locomotives and rolling stock are those that could be seen in the Wadebridge are between 1961 and 1968. The working timetables are based on those for Padstow to Wadebridge with WR trains and other through trains added from a Newquay summer weekend timetable of the period to add WR trains to the SR ones. The result is probably the most intensively worked single line railway ever! This has involved an investment in a ridiculous amount of rolling stock but this is a layout that is planned to last me for the rest of my life.

It all began when I tried to work out how a North Cornwall railway line could have survived closure, how the "Atlantic Coast Express" could have escaped the axe in 1964 and kept running (at least in the summer) behind Bulleid Light Pacifics until 1967 (and the end of steam on the SR) and even beyond to 1968 (with preserved steam like 4472 "Flying Scotsman" did): the answer better marketing and more passengers and freight and more private involvement in the operation of a tourist railway still run by BR. The back story for those answers: an energetic rich, talented and politically and socially influential local family who believed in investing in and promoting the area, its economy, and its railway. Being a fan of the "Swinging Sixties" there is plenty of background details available. Trains did not run in isolation, they served an area, carried people, and transported goods in and out and there should be reasons for this traffic, in my opinion. (But, then, this is my railway and I have no wish to tell others how to run theirs!) Penmayne HAD to be a much bigger tourist attraction than Padstow was in the 1960s (in fact, like it is now, more than 50 years later) to keep the line open; so I imagined that it was developed like Newquay which required the line to Penmayne (near Rock, opposite Padstow) opening much earlier than the line to Padstow did (1899!). And that required wealthy and forward looking local backing . . . After all, the Wadebridge-Dunmere line opened in 1834!

Cant Cove and Penmayne were conceived as a working model which could be used to tell stories (hence my enormous number of (mainly German) N Scale figures and vehicles who will be posed on the layout to tell stories. Lady Penelope and her husband have already appeared; their daughter will soon.

Martin of Port Perran and Trepol Bay is a great inspiration with his stories of the people who 'live' and work in these parts of North Cornwall. Jon of Weaver Cove is also an enthusiastic member and others, too, as far as Warwickshire (John with Claverdon) have joined in the tales of the Castle Estates, the Castle Brewery, and the Cornish Locomotive Preservation Group.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on November 21, 2014, 10:05:51 pm
Many thanks Mito and Martin. Over Christmas I plan to write up (on the layout planning thread) the full history of the Wadebridge to Penmayne Railway and the part played by the Lords of Trevelver Castle in the development of the area and its railways. I will also write more of the family's current (1960s) members, the Castle Estates, the Castle Brewery, the Cornish Locomotive Preservation Group and how the "Atlantic Coast Express" kept running behind Bulleid Light Pacifics until 1968 (the end of steam ln BR)!

As far as possible, the locomotives and rolling stock are those that could be seen in the Wadebridge are between 1961 and 1968. The working timetables are based on those for Padstow to Wadebridge with WR trains and other through trains added from a Newquay summer weekend timetable of the period to add WR trains to the SR ones. The result is probably the most intensively worked single line railway ever! This has involved an investment in a ridiculous amount of rolling stock but this is a layout that is planned to last me for the rest of my life.

It all began when I tried to work out how a North Cornwall railway line could have survived closure, how the "Atlantic Coast Express" could have escaped the axe in 1964 and kept running (at least in the summer) behind Bulleid Light Pacifics until 1967 (and the end of steam on the SR) and even beyond to 1968 (with preserved steam like 4472 "Flying Scotsman" did): the answer better marketing and more passengers and freight and more private involvement in the operation of a tourist railway still run by BR. The back story for those answers: an energetic rich, talented and politically and socially influential local family who believed in investing in and promoting the area, its economy, and its railway. Being a fan of the "Swinging Sixties" there is plenty of background details available. Trains did not run in isolation, they served an area, carried people, and transported goods in and out and there should be reasons for this traffic, in my opinion. (But, then, this is my railway and I have no wish to tell others how to run theirs!) Penmayne HAD to be a much bigger tourist attraction than Padstow was in the 1960s (in fact, like it is now, more than 50 years later) to keep the line open; so I imagined that it was developed like Newquay which required the line to Penmayne (near Rock, opposite Padstow) opening much earlier than the line to Padstow did (1899!). And that required wealthy and forward looking local backing . . . After all, the Wadebridge-Dunmere line opened in 1834!

Cant Cove and Penmayne were conceived as a working model which could be used to tell stories (hence my enormous number of (mainly German) N Scale figures and vehicles who will be posed on the layout to tell stories. Lady Penelope and her husband have already appeared; their daughter will soon.

Martin of Port Perran and Trepol Bay is a great inspiration with his stories of the people who 'live' and work in these parts of North Cornwall. Jon of Weaver Cove is also an enthusiastic member and others, too, as far as Warwickshire have joined in the tales of the Castle Estates, the Castle Brewery, and the Cornish Locomotive Preservation Group.

I love the back story and its great to be able to join in this with the Cove. It also gives the Cove its only little back story which is great as I'm not so good on that part lol.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 21, 2014, 10:12:08 pm
Many thanks, Jon. Your superbly landscaped Weaver Cove is another great inspiration for Cant Cove. I will be happy to write up (with you) the story of the line through Weaver Cove and its link to the Wadebridge to Penmayne and Trepol Bay lines (with Martin). I'm very happy that you're part of our stories about North Cornwall and its railways (in our alternative North Cornwall, that is).

I will have an agreed summary of the Weaver Cove back history ready for you when you exhibit it.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on November 21, 2014, 10:21:02 pm
Many thanks, Jon. Your superbly landscaped Weaver Cove is another great inspiration for Cant Cove. I will be happy to write up (with you) the story of the line through Weaver Cove and its link to the Wadebridge to Penmayne and Trepol Bay lines (with Martin). I'm very happy that you're part of our stories about North Cornwall and its railways (in our alternative North Cornwall, that is).

I will have an agreed summary of the Weaver Cove back history ready for you when you exhibit it.

Well you have till October 2015 lol so no rush lol
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chinahand on November 21, 2014, 11:21:36 pm
That's an incredible back story you've devised Chris. I thought I'd done a decent job with the back story to Market Havering but yours beats mine into a cocked hat. Great imagination.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 22, 2014, 06:08:32 am
Many thanks, Trevor. Your detailed history of the Market Havering line also inspired me when I first read it but, last year, I was too busy with the Working Timetable (which should have been the first thing / think I did) to write down the detailed history of the Wadebridge to Penmayne line. Over the year the other stories developed in my head and on this thread encouraged by Martin of Port Perran and Trepol Bay and Jon of Weaver Cove (other Cornish lines) as well as others modelling the WR as far as Bristol and North Warwickshire. I laso have read and studied a lot of books on the railways of North Cornwall and the West Country as well as, via the Internet, the local scenery and history. I can 'see' all the people and places in my head. Many years ago I did a lot of research for a book set on a fictional island off Cornwall and this helped too.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 22, 2014, 09:48:07 pm
The Wadebridge yardmaster has confirmed that, after the delay caused by the WR relaying the track between Wadebridge and Trepol Bay, the wagons sent from Cant Cove, including those for the Headland Brewery, are finally on their way. (The ex-GWR diesel railcar and its tail load were allowed through before the PWM gang from Cant Cove PWM depot got to work using their new Class 14 on loan to Penmayne from St. Blazey who had it on loan from Bristol Bath Road!) The PWM gang were ordered to have the line upgraded ready for the Christmas steam specials between Penmayne - Wadebridge - Trepol Bay and return with some running via Weaver Cove one way.

Due to the passed steam loco. crews not having 'signed' for Weaver Cove it looks like the specials passing one way through Weaver Cove will, this season, have to be diesel hauled with diesel locos. replacing steam ones at Weaver Cove Junction (in the north) and St. Eval Junction (in the south) or a connecting diesel railcar shuttle with a special cask ale bar in the guard's department supplied courtesy of the Castle and Headland breweries with Port Perran Cornish Pasties. A varied selection of diesel and steam power has, however, been promised and enthusiasts are eagerly awaiting the confirmed details. A rake of SR Green and one of WR chocolate and cream mainline stock has been promised from Penmayne and WR stock from Port Perran and SR stock from Trepol Bay. The Penmayne rakes will both include a RMB Mini Buffet serving Castle Brewery Old Strong Winter Ale (ABV - 5.5%) and Christmas Ale (ABV 7%) on draught together with a Headland Brewery special ale brewed to commemorate these special trains details of which will be announced at the beginning of the season. Penmayne Pasty Co. Cornish Pasties served hot will also feature on the menu. It is rumoured that Father Christmas and his unusually attractive elves will also appear!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on November 23, 2014, 12:09:16 am
I was looking at some of my pictures and I thought you might like this Chris.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/36/thumb_18883.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18883)
Jon
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 23, 2014, 10:11:27 am
Many thanks, Jon, that's a great action shot. Actually, I have two "Castles": 7004 "Eastnor Castle" with double chimney and 4096 "Highclere Castle" (withdrawn: 09/02/1963) with single chimney but they are at the back of the queue for DCC-fitting and one or both may be renumbered and renamed (7022 "Hereford Castle" being a likely choice for 7004) being bought from BR WR after withdrawal and subsequently operated by the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group. (In 1959, Laira still had 10 allocated.) However, the last three Castle class locos. to be withdrawn were all finally allocated to Gloucester shed (85B), with 5042 "Winchester Castle" and 7022 "Hereford Castle" both being withdrawn in June 1965 whilst the very last to be withdrawn was No. 7029 "Clun Castle" in December 1965, which worked the last steam train out of Paddington on 27 November 1965 and is preserved. On 4 March 1967, preserved "Clun Castle" and No. 4079 "Pendennis Castle" hauled specials from Banbury and Oxford respectively to Chester, to mark the end of through trains between Paddington and Birkenhead. Eight Castles survive in preservation.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 23, 2014, 12:09:57 pm
The first details of the recently overhauled (at Eastleigh Works) special 'pool' of unrebuilt Bulleid Light Pacifics to work the "Atlantic Coast Express" in the summer 1965 season and local and long distance special trains have just been announced by BR SR at Waterloo, the 'Fat Controller' from divisional headquarters at Plymouth, and the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group whose volunteer crews will clean and service them in Cornwall at Cant Cove and Penmayne. CLPG members who are also BR SR and WR drivers, firemen and loco. inspectors will drive and fire them. The locomotives' overhaul and coal are proudly sponsored by the Castle Brewery, Trevelver Castle, Cant Cove. The agreement is set to last until the scheduled end of SR steam in 1967.

The four locos. are (with real life details):
34007 “Wadebridge” (withdrawn: October 1965; now preserved);
34015 “Exmouth” (at Padstow, 1964, hauled the last “ACE”; withdrawn: April 1967);
34065 “Hurricane” (withdrawn: April 1964);
34066 “Spitfire” (at Wadebridge, 1964; withdrawn: September 1966);

Additionally, a reservation has been placed on:
34107 “Blandford Forum” (on “ACE”, 1964; withdrawn: September 1964);
If the specials raise enough funds, 34107 will be bought as a spare back-up loco. and will be moved to Penmayne for safe keeping. As bookings for the specials are already exceeding the most optimistic expectations, a reservation has also been placed on 34023 “Blackmoor Vale” (at Padstow, 5th September 1964, hauled the last UP “ACE”; withdrawn: July 1967; also now preserved). As a backup, 34036 “Westward Ho!” (withdrawn July 1967) is also being considered.

Most of the unrebuilt Bulleid Light Pacifics were withdrawn before the end of steam on the Southern Region but seven survived until until July 1967, when the last steam locomotives on the Southern Region were withdrawn. The initial four, rising to six, unrebuilt Bulleid Light Pacifics for summer services to Penmayne from Summer 1965 to 1967 are not necessarily the same as these last seven.

Additional announcements have been made concerning other preserved steam ex-GWR, ex-LSWR and ex-SR locos. in the North Cornwall area (Port Perran, Trepol Bay, and Weaver Cove) and sponsorship by the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on November 23, 2014, 08:11:47 pm
I'm glad you enjoyed it Chris. I took it a couple of years ago while visiting family just before Christmas. It was a very cold morning. It was the 5043 Earl of Mount Edgcumbe.
I have some more but not of any castle classes, some black 5's and A1 peppercorn class.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 23, 2014, 08:28:02 pm
No wonder the clouds of steam look so good then, Jon.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on November 23, 2014, 08:30:43 pm
No wonder the clouds of steam ook so good then, Jon.

Yes lol not great side by the side of the track with the temp just above freezing lol but totally awesome when they blast past you.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on November 23, 2014, 09:03:45 pm
Yes a freezing cold day does help - this was shot in December about 5 minutes before it started snowing......

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/uk2day/trains/sirnigel.jpg)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on November 23, 2014, 09:13:24 pm
That is lovely wookie. yes also wet days work as well for a bit of clag.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/36/thumb_18931.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=18931)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on November 23, 2014, 09:17:49 pm
There's quite a story goes with that Sir Nigel pic, and it was almost enough to influence my choice of modelling area and era.
I'm glad diesel hydraulics won though  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 23, 2014, 09:22:30 pm
They're both really super photographs, thanks for posting them. Both are superb locomotives but I'm still a WR man at heart. I do have a N Gauge "Jubilee" though which will be renumbered and renamed as "Alberta" (I have the transfers and plates) as it was a schoolfriend's favourite loco. and lasted until 1967. Towards the end of WR steam, when the WR was very short of locos., all sorts of steam locos. got beyond Bristol . . .
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 24, 2014, 03:15:52 pm
The first details of the recently overhauled (at Eastleigh Works) special 'pool' of unrebuilt Bulleid Light Pacifics to work the "Atlantic Coast Express" in the summer 1965 season and local and long distance special trains have just been announced by BR SR at Waterloo, the 'Fat Controller' from divisional headquarters at Plymouth, and the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group whose volunteer crews will clean and service them in Cornwall at Cant Cove and Penmayne. CLPG members who are also BR SR and WR drivers, firemen and loco. inspectors will drive and fire them. The locomotives' overhaul and coal are proudly sponsored by the Castle Brewery, Trevelver Castle, Cant Cove. The agreement is set to last until the scheduled end of SR steam in 1967.

The four locos. are (with real life details):
34007 “Wadebridge” (withdrawn: October 1965; now preserved);
34015 “Exmouth” (at Padstow, 1964, hauled the last “ACE”; withdrawn: April 1967);
34065 “Hurricane” (withdrawn: April 1964);
34066 “Spitfire” (at Wadebridge, 1964; withdrawn: September 1966);

Additionally, a reservation has been placed on:
34107 “Blandford Forum” (on “ACE”, 1964; withdrawn: September 1964);
If the specials raise enough funds, 34107 will be bought as a spare back-up loco. and will be moved to Penmayne for safe keeping.

Additional announcements are expected concerning other preserved steam ex-GWR, ex-LSWR and ex-SR locos. and sponsorship by the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay.

Will provide details as soon as is possible.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 24, 2014, 09:08:06 pm
Thank you, Martin.

Advance bookings for the Christmas Specials are looking very strong and a reservation will be placed on a sixth Bulleid Light Pacific as the full Summer Saturday timetable on the Penmayne to Wadebridge line will require up to 6 Bulleid Light Pacifics. The identity of the 6th loco. will be announced in due course as CLPG members are visiting Nine Elms shed and Eastleigh Works to discuss which loco. to choose.

It is still not known whether the B Set used on the Wadebridge - Weaver Cove - Trepol Bay shuttle will be steam-hauled (by a 57XX) or by a D63XX (Class 22 as they became) on the stretch from Weaver Cove Jn. to St. Eval Jn. However, as this stretch is 'rare mileage', advance passenger bookings are already encouraging.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 24, 2014, 10:31:01 pm
There is a lot of excited chatter both locally and further afield about the sponsored program of special trains running from Penmayne - Wadebridge - Trepol Bay (some via Weaver Cove) and from Wadebridge on to Port Perran. The SR from Waterloo and the WR from Paddington will be running a special steam-hauled train to bring enthusiasts to the area, each day. The SR has promised the first overhauled Bulleid Light Pacific from the 1965 Summer timetable pool whilst the WR has promised one of their last "Castle" Class locos. The SR have allocated a SR Green rake of Bulleid and BR Mark 1 coaches for their train whilst the WR has obtained special permission to assemble a rake of Chocolate and Cream Mark 1s for theirs.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 24, 2014, 10:35:47 pm
The CLPG Cant Cove and Penmayne branches are delighted to be joined by their colleagues from Weaver Cove as special guests along with employees from the Castle Brewery at Port Perran and Trepol Bay to witness the arrival of the delayed special train of overhauled and (some) repainted wagons and vans from Cant Cove to Port Perran and Trepol Bay.

The chairmen of the CLPG and GWS branches (Bodmin General and Port Perran), along with the chairmen and head brewers of the Castle and Headland Breweries and the Penmayne NOT the Port Perran Pastie Co., will be using the opportunity to meet with local BR SR and WR management and other interested parties to agree the final details of the Christmas program of special trains in the area as part of the area's tourism promotion program devised by Lady Penelope of Trevelver Castle. The chef and his team from "The Railway Hotel", Cant Cove (the hotel being temporarily closed for refurbishment) will also be present to discuss the special menu on the specials' RMB buffet cars which has been designed to accompany the special beers from the Castle and Headland Breweries.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 24, 2014, 10:58:03 pm
Some more details are leaking out on the enthusiast grape vine about what locos. could be part of the program of Christmas special trains in the North Cornwall area. Port Perran shed has a specially cleaned and maintained 0-6-0 pannier repainted in GWR livery currently on loan to (and partially operated by) the West Cornwall branch of the Great Western Society who are hoping to raise the funds to buy the loco. (at a specially reduced rate) from BR WR. While the shedmaster at Trepol Bay has a SR T9 restored to Southern livery by the SR at Eastleigh Works and returned to North Cornwall which, although owned by the fledgling National Railway Museum, the Trepol Bay Branch of the Cornish Loco Preservation Group (CLPG) are operating under a special agreement but under the ultimate control of the shedmaster at Trepol Bay. Finally, there is a specially restored ex-GWR railcar (housed at Port Perran) owned by the Great Western Society.

Now rumours are circulating about whether the Weaver Cove line specials really will have the booked D63XX hauling the B Set. Some rumours mention that 57XX 4607, cleaned up and still with its BR Early Crest, could be rostered instead. But the enthusiasts won't know until 19th of December. However, advance bookings mean that the Christmas Day special will now also be running on Boxing Day.

The Chairman of the Weaver Cove Train Spotting Association has been given a special trackside pass to take photos and a 35MM film for post-Christmas club meetings of local associations. Cant Cove's official photographer and his pretty young assistant have also been given trackside passes after special detailed trackside safety training by the BR staff of the CLPG at Cant Cove shed who have grown very fond of the shy couple.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 08:57:52 am
The latest rumours are that the chef from Cant Cove's "Station Hotel" has had a 'full and frank' discussion about the shortcomings of the kitchen in a British Railways Mark 1 Miniature Buffet (RMB) if he and his team are to prepare the planned celebratory dinner on the Christmas Eve special from Penmayne to Port Perran (via Wadebridge) hosted by the Lord and Lady of Trevelver Castle for the representatives of all the organisations that have come together to make the program of special trains a success. A further rumour is that British Railways Board Chairman, Dr Richard Beeching, (1963–1965) has pointed out to local BR management that, in 1962, the Western Region had been officially ordered to abandon the use of rakes of chocolate and cream livery and whilst he would not prevent a rake of existing chocolate and cream painted carriages being temporarily put together for this limited period (as he does not want to be taken off Lady Penelope's Chelsea guest list) the general ban remains. As a result it has been rumoured that, on Lady Penelope's earnest request, Paddington will be sending an additional special rake of BR Maroon liveried carriages, including one of the new 19XX series (RU) Unclassed Restaurant Cars on B5 bogies, (for smooth running), to Penmayne. It is not known, however, what locomotive(s) will be hauling the scratch set.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 01:40:38 pm
The Cant Cove photographer and his assistant were present to record the arrival of the first overhauled unrebuilt Bulleid Light Pacific with a train of old wooden bodied vans and wagons for overhaul and repainting at Cant Cove on behalf of the Castle Brewery and the Castle Estates due to increased traffic to the Weaver Cove area:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-25133711_zpsbe997549.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-25133711_zpsbe997549.jpg.html)

And yet more similar vans and wagons plus a few different types are on their way to meet future demand.

The sharp-eyed may have spotted that this loco. is, currently, No. 34064 "Fighter Command", which was fitted with a Giesl ejector in 1962. Most of the unrebuilt Bulleid Light Pacifics were withdrawn before the end of steam on the Southern Region but seven survived until until July 1967, when the last steam locomotives on the Southern Region were withdrawn. The initial four, rising to six, unrebuilt Bulleid Light Pacifics for summer services to Penmayne from Summer 1965 to 1967 are not necessarily the same as these last seven.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 01:55:04 pm
To placate the "Great and Good Doctor" (Beeching) the WR photographer was sent out to record the all BR Maroon train of WR carriages heading to Bodmin Road behind "Western" D1023 "Western Fusilier" for the coaches to be transferred to Penmayne (via Wadebridge) for the VIP Christmas Eve special:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-25135357_zpsc5871fbd.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-25135357_zpsc5871fbd.jpg.html)

Behind D1023 is W1915, the RU Restaurant Car, followed by the Second Open which will have its tables covered with starched damask tableclothes and the finest cutlery, crystal glasses and china porcelain from Cant Castle and overseen by the family's formidable butler (ex-SAS) for the celebratory dinner prepared by the chef and his assistants from "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove. In the RU, casks / barrels of Castle Brewery, Headland Brewery and Kronenbourg will be installed together with a selection of fine wines supplied by an up and coming Chelsea wine merchant, Giles (also ex-SAS), and mineral water from a spring on the Castle Estates. Beyond that is a First Corridor (FK) for the important guests before the dinner is served followed by a Collett Brake Composite (BCK) for the press and support staff.

The WR has recently upgraded the track from Bodmin Road to Wadebridge and on to Newquay for D10XX "Westerns" including the Weaver Cove loop at great expense, as a diversionary route. However, the cost of upgrading the line from Wadebridge through Cant Cove to Penmayne for "Westerns" could not be justified. At present the most powerful diesel locos. cleared for this stretch are D70XXs and D65XXs although the cost of upgrading to allow D8XX "Warships" to run occasionally on the heaviest trains is still being investigated.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 02:11:40 pm
The latest news from the enthusiast grapevine is that a Truro-based "Manor" is being specially prepared and cleaned. It is also thought that a Black Motor may just arrive at Trepol Bay in order to take part in the Christmas program of special trains. Sales of advance tickets are such that the daily special trains from Paddington and Waterloo to Wadebridge to connect with the specials are already almost sold out!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 07:40:25 pm
Lady Penelope and Lord Charles' daughter, Sylvia's good friend, Mary Quant, a fashion designer and British fashion icon who is a key figure in the 1960s London-based youth fashion movement, (she is one of the designers who took credit for the miniskirt and hot pants), and who encourages young people to treat fashion as a game, is strongly rumoured to have designed the outfits for the 'Christmas Elves' who will be accompanying Father Christmas on the Christmas Specials as a thank you for Sylvia's mother's marketing advice.

This photo. was found in a plain manilla folder, with Quant's signature daisy drawn on it, left on a table in S1849, the chartered RMB of the 00.15 from Waterloo to Penmayne, earlier this week . . .

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/MaryQuantSantaElfCostume_zpsf350725c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/MaryQuantSantaElfCostume_zpsf350725c.jpg.html)

On the back of the photo someone has scrawled: 'model - Jenny, Sylvia's friend'. It looks like someone was enjoying a glass of red wine whilst studying it . . .

"Apart from the mini, Quant is also credited with popularising white "go-go" boots [above we can see a fake fur variation?], patterned tights, brightly-coloured "Paintbox" make-up, the micro-mini skirt, plastic raincoats, the "wet look", and hot-pants, which she designed in 1966, the year she received an OBE from the Queen for her services to the fashion industry."
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Mito on November 25, 2014, 08:23:43 pm
Now that would make my Christmas :heart2:
Can you confirm that there are seat available still? :)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 08:39:36 pm
Now that would make my Christmas :heart2:
Can you confirm that there are seat available still? :)

I believe that there are still a few 1st class seats left; another BR Maroon Mark 1 CK has been requested for the Restaurant Car rake so your seat reservation can be assured. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on November 25, 2014, 09:02:20 pm
I am so glad I signed up as Santa now  :heart2: :o :drool:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 09:05:24 pm
I am so glad I signed up as Santa now  :heart2: :o :drool:

As I wrote, a VERY wise decision, Jon. (Rumour has it that, Sylvia, who has learnt more than a few marketing tactics from her mother, DELIBERATELY left a Mary Quant folder with the photo. where she knew it would be found . . . )
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on November 25, 2014, 09:58:11 pm
I am so glad I signed up as Santa now  :heart2: :o :drool:

As I wrote, a VERY wise decision, Jon. (Rumour has it that, Sylvia, who has learnt more than a few marketing tactics from her mother, DELIBERATELY left a Mary Quant folder with the photo. where she knew it would be found . . . )

A very wise decision indeed. Now I've heard from the same driver I was chatting to last night as confirmed that the Christmas day and Boxing day special will be on a twin set of B set coaches and now might be a 57XX in late crest pulling them.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 26, 2014, 12:04:02 pm
Sounds very good, Jon. I need to find my B Set and take a picture of it with my Dapol BR Late Crest 57XX.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: MinZaPint on November 26, 2014, 05:12:02 pm
Now you have my undivided attention, please reserve me a seat close to the bar in one of your specials, prepared to chip for a bottle of Fizz for Sylvia if that helps  :thumbsup:  :beers:   David
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 26, 2014, 05:36:40 pm
I believe that there are still a few 1st class seats left; another BR Maroon Mark 1 CK has been requested for the Restaurant Car rake so your seat reservation can be assured, David. 8-) The offer of a bottle of "champers" for Sylvia certainly helped! 8-) The Restaurant Car will be stocking Veuve Clicquot, Moët et Chandon and Dom Perignon, any of which would prove most acceptable for Sylvia and her friends. Although the 'Christmas Elves' are not allowed to drink alcohol on duty, they will be collecting donations for Dr Barnardo's. [I will be posting a picture of the 'Chelsea Girls', a Preiser 1960s set of mini-skirted young ladies!]

It has been rumoured that Mary Quant will be travelling down with Sylvia (daughter of the Lord and Lady of Trevelver Castle) and her model (deliberate pun) friends in the 00.15 from Waterloo (Penmayne a. 7.26, booked for a Bulleid Light Pacific) the night before the specials begin running. It has even been suggested that David Bailey, fashion photographer for "Vogue" magazine from 1960 who is helping drive the iconic ‘Swinging London’ scene of the 1960s and is becoming regarded as one of Britain’s best photographers, will be joining the party. He dated the most beautiful woman of the 1960s, Jean Shrimpton, and was a close friend of the Rolling Stones and the Beatles. Did he take the photo. of the 'Christmas Elf' left by Sylvia in the RMB the other day? Others rumoured to be on the train in the specially reserved FK, with adjacent RMB, include models Jean Shrimpton, "The Face of the '60s" and "the symbol of Swinging London" and Twiggy as well as Cathy McGowan, the host of the popular television rock show, 'Ready Steady Go!' (from 1964 to 1966).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 26, 2014, 06:37:06 pm
By popular request, a photograph of Sylvia (RIGHT) with one of her friends, Monique, a Louis-Faurer model (LEFT), in a Wagon Lits in 1960, on her way home after completing her year of studies at her Swiss finishing school (the Institut Alpin Videmanette, now closed, which Diana, Princess of Wales was, later, to attend), has been found:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/SylviawithLouis-Faurer-model-LEFT-on-WagonLitstrain1960_zpscccc071c.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/SylviawithLouis-Faurer-model-LEFT-on-WagonLitstrain1960_zpscccc071c.jpg.html)

This was before Sylvia started work as a secretary in S H Benson Ltd., a leading London advertising agency (through her mother, Lady Penelope's contacts), and became part of the "Swinging London" art, fashion, and photography scene.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 27, 2014, 08:42:39 am
Sylvia, in 1960s London, with her mini bike:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/SylviawithbikeinLondon_zpsd7a22b15.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/SylviawithbikeinLondon_zpsd7a22b15.jpg.html)

Sylvia and her 'Chelsea Girls' are keen cyclists (as is common in the 1960s) and are used to going on cycling tours of the Continent; by train of course. The SR had cycle vans for this traffic; nothing special, just standard Luggage PMVs (essentially the same as PLVs), with a bicycle stencil in the top right corner of each side, the normal single vent ends, horizontal bars behind the windows, and the letters PMV below the BR (SR) running number on each side. Interestingly the example in a photo. I was kindly emailed from a book doesn't have the short rainstrips over each of the doors.

The books says that, in the 1950s, fourteen vans were reserved for the use of cyclists travelling to/from the Continent. The SR PMV vans were Nos. 1055/7, 1103/13/75, 1208/82/93, 1305/14/7. 1454, 1728, and 1882.

I am assuming that at least some survived as Cycle Vans into the 1960s and that Sylvia was able, through her mother's influence, to have at least two SR Cycle Vans transferred for use Spring - Autumn on Waterloo to Penmayne trains. So, as soon as the N Gauge SR PMVs are available, I will buy two and and the appropriate transfer set and make two SR Cycle Vans! Maybe, one will also be worked through to Trepol Bay?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 27, 2014, 09:27:16 pm
I'm planning to make a promotional poster for the program of steam specials as soon as the semester is over in 3 weeks time!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on November 27, 2014, 09:29:47 pm
I'm planning to make a promotional poster for the program of steam specials as soon as the semester is over in 3 weeks time!

That is great Chris I look forward to that :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 27, 2014, 09:39:55 pm
Thanks, Jon. I want to make it 1960s style!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on November 27, 2014, 09:58:57 pm
Thanks, Jon. I want to make it 1960s style!

That sounds great Chris
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 27, 2014, 10:06:21 pm
Thanks, Jon. I want to make it 1960s style!

That sounds great Chris
Good stuff and pounds, shillings and pence of course .
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 27, 2014, 10:20:17 pm
Of course, pounds, shillings and pence! 8-) I had not thought of specific prices; it would be a general announcement poster to advertise the program across the BR network but, once I have an approved template I could, of course produce local ones for Cant Cove, Penmayne, Trepol Bay and Weaver Cove for local train programs and include prices? However, I would welcome realistic prices for all-day Runabout tickets, singles, returns (adult, child; first and second class). Hmm, Lord Charles' retriever would need a dog ticket, too?

BTW, the latest rumour concerns a through ER/LMR special, with the last set of BR livery Stanier design carriages (it lasted until the end of 1964 and did, in fact, visit the SR) hauled by one of the last 'Jubilees', "Alberta", right through to Wadebridge!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 28, 2014, 02:22:25 pm
Further fuelling ticket sales on the WR, SR, and now joint ER/LMR, specials to Wadebridge as well as ticket sales in Cornwall is the latest rumour that a Drummond 700 ('Black Motor') has just undergone a full overhaul and repaint at Eastleigh works and is expected to make its way to North Cornwall over the next day or so to take up duties there. Enthusiasts are debating whether it will turn out to be a survivor of Exmouth Junction's 1960's 'Black Motors': 30317 3/58 - 8/61, 30327 2/59 - 5/61; 30689 9/61 - 11/62, 30691 11/54 - 8/61 (allegedly hauled the 3.13 Perishables from Padstow in October 1960), 30697 9/61 - 11/62, 30700 9/61 - 11/62, or another which was put aside at Eastleigh Works a couple of years ago?

'Jubilee' class No. 45562 "Alberta" (the last of the class to be withdrawn, in October 1967, after working for about 32 years), of 55A Leeds (Holbeck) has just been confirmed as being booked for the joint ER/LMR special hauling the last full rake of BR Maroon Stanier-designed stock starting from Leeds and running through to Wadebridge.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 28, 2014, 02:58:35 pm
Further fuelling ticket sales on the WR, SR, and now joint ER/LMR, specials to Wadebridge as well as ticket sales in Cornwall is the latest rumour that a Drummond 700 ('Black Motor') has just undergone a full overhaul and repaint at Eastleigh works and is expected to make its way to North Cornwall over the next day or so to take up duties there. Enthusiasts are debating whether it will turn out to be a survivor of Exmouth Junction's 1960's 'Black Motors': 30317 3/58 - 8/61, 30327 2/59 - 5/61; 30689 9/61 - 11/62, 30691 11/54 - 8/61 (allegedly hauled the 3.13 Perishables from Padstow in October 1960), 30697 9/61 - 11/62, 30700 9/61 - 11/62, or another which was put aside at Eastleigh Works a couple of years ago?

'Jubilee' class No. 45562 "Alberta" (the last of the class to be withdrawn, in October 1967, after working for about 32 years), of 55A Leeds (Holbeck) has just been confirmed as being booked for the joint er/LMR special hauling the last full rake of BR Maroon Stanier-designed stock starting from Leeds and running through to Wadebridge.
Enthusiasts will have to play a waiting game to discover the identity and livery of the Black Motor !!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 28, 2014, 03:29:44 pm
Plenty for the enthusiasts to discuss over their pints of Castle or Headland ale then, Martin. 8-)

The latest gossip centres around whether the line from Bodmin Road to Wadebridge and on to Newquay and Truro, just very expensively upgraded by the WR to take up to and including D10XX "Westerns", is cleared for "Jubilees"? Enthusiasts are getting their reference books out to check! Rumour has it that the "Jubilee" will have to come off the train at Bodmin Road. However, a "Jubilee" working that far beyond Bristol (apart from Weston-super-Mare, usually Locking Road, with summer holiday traffic), their normal limit, is still cause for great excitement (Leeds Holbeck "Jubilees" were regular visitors to Bristol during 1962-63 and 45562 was reported at Bath Green Park, 04/08/62, Sat.). Definitely, a Western pilotman, who had signed for the route, would be required beyond Bristol.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 28, 2014, 03:51:53 pm
I spent many an hour at Bristol TM around 1962-65 and saw quite a few Jubilees from Leeds (and other places) plus the resident Barrow Road ones.
Had a few trips round Barrow Rd just after Bath Rd shed closed whist it was turned into a diesel depot. At that time Barrow Rd was absolutely crammed with ex GW and LM engines. Great days.
A jubilee getting as far as Bodmin would not of course have happened except for Special Trains so no doubt great excitement is mounting in the area.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 28, 2014, 04:19:04 pm
Lucky you, Martin. According to "The Western Since 1948" (highly recommended) by G. Freeman Allen, page 55, "there was the unique occasion on 15 September 1962 when No. 45560 "Prince Edward Island" was appropriated to head the afternoon Plymouth - Bristol [I think this should be reversed] parcels as far as Exeter". Later (22nd September 1964), it was reported to have been used on banking duties at Weymouth! (And was not the only "Jubilee" to have reached Weymouth! (http://www.southernregion.net/strangers.html (http://www.southernregion.net/strangers.html))

So, there is a precedent for a "Jubilee" on the WR mainline to the SW!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on November 30, 2014, 09:37:44 am
I actually lived only 5 miles from Westbury when I was a young lad so saw a great variety of locos in the period 62-68.
Westbury was a proper main line station of course and saw all types of GW locos plus some SR & MR visitors. Even on the odd occasion we had B1s and even a V2 (those two worked on through from Swindon I believe).
Westbury was also a stopping off point for withdrawn locos sadly.
We also saw all the WR hydraulics and the early class 47s (often ex works).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 30, 2014, 10:12:15 am
Again, lucky you, Martin. I remember going around Westbury stabling point in the 1970s when there were still "Westerns" left. The smell of diesel . . . According to "The Western Since 1948" (highly recommended) by G. Freeman Allen, page 50, "Class B1 4-6-0s were a new ingredient of Birmingham - Bristol line power, especially on the 12.48 from York, which introduced a Class V2 2-6-2, N. 60954 of York, to Bristol Temple Meads for the first time on 16 November 1959. The V2 should never have slipped through, for when another York 2-6-2 slipped into Bristol from Birmingham in late January 1963, someone suddenly realised that it had infringed the route's clearance restrictions and No. 60945 was sent home via Didcot on a night freight to Woodford Halse, on the GC line. In following years Class K1 and K3 2-6-0s and Class O1 and O4 2-8-0s augmented the ex-LNER representatives in the Bristol area."

Bulleid Pacifics worked into Bristol via Salisbury (and into Bath, of course, from Bournemouth over the S&D).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 30, 2014, 10:01:11 pm
Route Availability by Diesel Locomotive Class

1   Shunters: 01, 03, 04*, 11104, 15097
2   Shunters: 02, 04*, 05
4   15, 16, 17, 22, 10800   
5   20, 23, 25, 27, 29, 31*, 37*, 43, 55; Shunters: 06, 08*, 09, 10, 11, 12
6   24, 26, 31*, 33, 35, 40, 42, 47*, 48, 50, 53, 73; Shunters: 07, 08*
7   44, 45, 46, 47*, 52

* Depending on sub-class.

In real life the North Cornwall Line must have only been RA4 Wadebridge to Padstow but, as the WR upgraded the Bude line and "Hymeks" were used on passenger trains to Bude, at least part must have been upgraded to RA6. Furthermore as "Warships" (Class 42) worked Exeter - Okehampton - Plymouth that must have been RA6. SR class 33s and WR Class 47s also worked that route, too. However, even on the most generous assumption of SUBSTANTIAL investment by WR in new track and strengthened bridges, 'Peaks' and 'Westerns' would, I'm afraid, still have been barred. So, I'm going to assume that Bodmin Road - Wadebridge (- Cant Cove) - Penmayne WAS upgraded to RA6 so, I can run my "Warships" and D1662 on particularly heavy trains but at reduced speed compared with the WR mainline. Normally, my "Hymeks" will be the highest RA diesel locos. used.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 30, 2014, 10:07:27 pm
Now, I need to discover what RA the SR Bulleid Class D16/2 (10201 to 10203) and Class D16/1 (10000 and 10001) LMSR mainline diesels (used from Waterloo - Exeter on the "Atlantic Coast Express"; well, at least the Bulleids were, probably the LMSR ones also as they were all allocated to the SR in the early 1950s for a while) were.

Bulleid Class D16/2: RA6; Class D16/1: ?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: NeMo on November 30, 2014, 10:51:44 pm
Now, I need to discover what RA the SR Bulleid Class D16/2 (10201 to 10203) and Class D16/1 (10000 and 10001) LMSR mainline diesels
Given both types were ~130 tons on either 6 or 8 axles, I'd assume their RA, if they ever had them, would be comparable or worse than the 'Peaks' and Class 40s they were so similar to in many ways.

It's worth recalling that these lumbering monsters filled operating departments with a certain degree of dread. So the story goes, this was especially acute for the Western Region that had no hope of rapid electrification, hence their interest in lightweight diesel-hydraulics.

The Class 22 diesel hydraulic was the only diesel locomotive viable on the lightly laid Devon and Cornwall branch lines. The 'Hymek' was never a branchline engine. So the Class 22 was meant to do the sorts of jobs that light steam locomotives like the ubiquitous Prairie tanks had done. It's pretty much the same situation today, I believe, with the Class 37s, which are able to run along lines that the 66s can't, hence the need to keep at least a few 37s about, whereas most of their contemporaries, such as the 47s, are now all but gone.

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 01, 2014, 10:16:29 pm
Thanks, NeMo.

The SR Bulleid Class D16/2 (10201 to 10203) were RA6 so, indeed, the same as Class 40, and I suspect that the Class D16/1 (10000 and 10001) LMSR mainline diesels were also.

The North Cornwall Railway was never a branchline unless the last few years under BR WR with just DMUs and single railcars are counted. It was a mainline / secondary line. So, if modelling a WR line, and you want to justify anything bigger than a D63XX Class 22, then it has to be a line like Newquay or Kingswear that was able to carry much heavier locos. I imagine that Penmayne was developed to rival Newquay and so the line was upgraded to take "Hymeks" and, with some restrictions, also "Warships" but nothing heavier.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 02, 2014, 02:10:47 pm
As soon as I have some free time I will try to compile a RA table for the steam loco. classes that ran in (North) Cornwall.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 02, 2014, 03:47:31 pm
As soon as I have some free time I will try to compile a RA table for the steam loco. classes that ran in (North) Cornwall.
That will be very useful information. Don't forget , however, that I am very good at applying Rule 1.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 02, 2014, 04:01:44 pm
Thank you, Martin, it's for guidance only! I'm assuming that, in 1964, the whole of the North Cornwall line was upgraded to RA6 (Halwill to Torrington being excluded and the passenger trains withdrawn). For all "Western" lovers, Class 52 being RA7, are I'm afraid very hard to justify off the WR mainlines. (So, mine will be a Rule One service for my own pleasure and will never be officially rostered; ditto my Class 46 "Peak".) Even RA6 is pushing it but if a "Hymek" did run to Bude why not to Penmayne . . . And, I'm assuming that D1662 is RA6 and NOT RA7!

In my alternative history, the Wadebridge to Padstow line was never built as the Wadebridge - Penmayne (Rock) line on the opposite of the River Camel was built much earlier (1860s) and whilst Penmayne boomed as a tourist resort and harbour, Padstow remained a quiet backwater.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 02, 2014, 04:04:49 pm
Thank you, Martin, it's for guidance only! I'm assuming that, in 1964, the whole of the North Cornwall line was upgraded to RA6 (Halwill to Torrington being excluded and the passenger trains withdrawn). For all "Western" lovers, Class 52 being RA7, are I'm afraid very hard to justify off the WR mainlines. (So, mine will be a Rule One service for my own pleasure and will never be officially rostered; ditto my Class 46 "Peak".) Even RA6 is pushing it but if a "Hymek" did run to Bude why not to Penmayne . . . And, I'm assuming that D1662 is RA6 and NOT RA7!

In my alternative history, the Wadebridge to Padstow line was never built as the Wadebridge - Penmayne (Rock) line on the opposite of the River Camel was built much earlier (1860s) and whilst Penmayne boomed as a tourist resort and harbour, Padstow remained a quiet backwater.
Don't tell Rick Stein !!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 02, 2014, 04:27:39 pm
Is that the same Rick Stein who is employed as the kitchen boy at the "Railway Hotel" restaurant in Cant Cove, Martin? 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 02, 2014, 04:39:20 pm
Is that the same Rick Stein who is employed as the kitchen boy at the "Railway Hotel" restaurant in Cant Cove, Martin? 8-)
Quite possibly. Do watch that he doesn't get too big for his boots !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 02, 2014, 05:35:49 pm
The wagon and van painters of the Cant Cove branch of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group have been absent, so far, from photos. To remedy this, two sets of Preiser painters (79176 and 79177 the set with the accessories) has just been despatched from Germany. I hope they will arrive next week and can photographed at work. Until then, here are two official Preiser pictures:

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(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-MODEL-PreiserSpurN116079177MalermitZubehoumlr_zpsf2cf1c4e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-MODEL-PreiserSpurN116079177MalermitZubehoumlr_zpsf2cf1c4e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 02, 2014, 07:38:30 pm
That guy bottom left looks like Elvis ! :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 02, 2014, 07:58:52 pm
Ssssh! Elvis likes to spend some time, incognito, staying at the "Railway Hotel", Cant Cove, where he had a tragic love affair with Alice, one of the beautiful local barmaids, which inspired the song "Heartbreak Hotel". (It was released as a single on January 27, 1956, Presley's first on his new record label RCA Victor. It was written by Tommy Durden and Mae Boren Axton.) Elvis finds joining the painting gang very relaxing. Evenings, in the snug, over pints of Castle Brewery Best Bitter, he sings songs on his acoustic guitar. 8-)

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Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 02, 2014, 08:44:48 pm
I feel another storyline developing here.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Mito on December 02, 2014, 08:58:42 pm
Over imbibing one night he finds himself as a guest of the local constabulary. "Jail House Rock" celebrates that evening. :beers:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 02, 2014, 09:03:28 pm
Ah, that was the time when he tried to drive Alice home, on the wrong side of the road, and the local constable stopped the car and took Elvis off to the police station to sober up overnight! (I guess Elvis wasn't used to too many Castle Ales!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on December 02, 2014, 09:05:54 pm

I'm guessing "In the ghetto" was inspired by Cant Cove  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 02, 2014, 09:12:07 pm

I'm guessing "In the ghetto" was inspired by Cant Cove  :smiley-laughing:

No, not a bit, Mike! The locals would NOT be pleased AT ALL to hear that suggestion.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Mito on December 02, 2014, 09:18:03 pm
Could it be that the reason for his transgression to the wrong side of the road was that he was thinking "It was now or never"? :o
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on December 02, 2014, 09:19:44 pm
"All shook up" was recorded after his trip on the branch line  :bounce:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on December 02, 2014, 09:23:11 pm
"Harbor Lights" was after he trundled down to Weaver Cove  :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 04, 2014, 12:06:20 pm
Motive power used on the NCR over the BR years included:

Maunsell N Class (ones with straight sided tenders)

Drummond T9 (8 wheel tender most suitable; 30729 was the only one in the BR period to have a narrow cab and 6 wheel tender; other regular NCR T9s included:
30313 - wide cab & splashers & Late BR Crest; 6-wheel tender [this will be my Union Mills T9]
30338 - wide cab with 8-wheel watercart tender
30709, 30715, 30717, 30718 and 30719 - narrow cab and 8-wheel watercart tender)
30313, 30709, 30715, and 30717 were at Okehampton until July 1961 when they were finally withdrawn.  (After 1961, Ns took over most of their duties. All had gone by September 1964.)

Bulleid original Unrebuilt Light Pacific (narrow 4500gal tender with no tender raves are most suitable; that can cover lots of renaming options)

BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4 tanks (replaced the Ns on some duties), arrived in 1962 to augment / replace 3MT 2-6-2Ts; lasted until the last day of steam on 2 January 1965

Beattie Well Tanks (on Wadebridge to Wenfordbridge line)

The above 5 were most common and are 'signature' classes but the following also ran:

Maunsell U and U1 (Us were rare visitors on the NCR; the unpopular U1s: 31901-4 were tried as T9 replacements 1n 1961)
Maunsell 700 "Black Motors" (rare): 30315, 30317, 30327, 30689, 30691, 30697, and 30700 were allocated to Exmouth Junction shed. All were withdrawn between 1961 and 1962.
Fairburn 2-6-4 tanks (short period in 1951: Exmouth Junction's three 42099, 42103, 42105)
Ivatt 2-6-2 tanks, Drummond O2 tanks (replaced by 0-6-0PTs), GWR 45xx 2-6-2 tanks, GWR 8750 0-6-0PTs (replaced by Ivatt 2MT 2-6-2Ts), GWR 1366 0-6-0PTs (replaced Beattie Well Tanks on Bodmin duties through the years

Closing years saw:
BR Std Class 3MT 2-6-2T tanks (some first appeared in 1952; re-appeared in 1954; re-appeared, again, in 1963; not, usually, used on Padstow line; lasted until the last day of steam on 2 January 1965)
BR Std Class 4 75XXX: (some first appeared in 1955; re-appeared in 1964, replaced the Ns on some duties; transferred away in May 1965)

Class 22 D63XX Type 2 (on passenger and goods), appeared in 1961
Class 121 and (mainly) Class 122 single car units, took over in 1965
Derby-built suburban 3-car* 'heavyweight' units, took over in 1965
BRC&W Co. suburban 3-car* units, took over in 1965
Swindon-built Cross-Country 3-car* units, took over in 1965
*Some ran without centre cars

AC Railbus on Bodmin North shuttle:
In 1964, W79977, with small yellow warning panel was the resident (and formed the last train from Wadebridge to Bodmin North on 28th January 1967 – with suitable wreath).
In October 1965, (and maybe longer than that), W79978 with 'speed whiskers' was working the line though this may have been because W79977 was away for overhaul or etc.?

Later:
Class 03 BR D2XXX (replaced 1366 0-6-0PTs on Wadebridge to Wenfordbridge line; in turn replaced by Class 08 BR standard diesel shunters)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 06, 2014, 04:24:32 pm
A special working arrived at Port Perran this afternoon from Penzance.
The train contained a rare sulphates wagon and three grain hoppers. The wagons were redundant at Penzance but are en-route to Cant Cove where they will be restored by the Castle Brewery/Castle Estates.
The wagons will move on from Port Perran to Trepol Bay where Castle Estates have an area office and their operatives have agreed to perform some preparatory restoration work on the wagons before they move on to Cant Cove (probably in the New Year) for final overhail and re-painting into the Castle Estates distinctive blue livery.
The train is seen here waiting to reverse back into the goods yard at Port Perran where the wagons will wait for the next goods working to Trepol Bay.
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The staff at the Headland Brewery at Trepol Bay are currently working on repainting several box vans into a new Black & Gold livery. Hopefully, these will be completed in the New Year and two or three will be included in the train that will include the grain hoppers and sulphate wagon bound for Cant Cove (working via Weaver Cove where one of the vans will be delivered).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 06, 2014, 04:47:31 pm
Many thanks, Martin. Very nice to see them running at Port Perran. I have a spare roof for the Peco grain hopper that is missing its. (I have two damaged blue Peco grain hoppers which have their roofs and I was planning to make one good hopper wagon from.) They will, as Martin, states, be repainted in Castle Brewery dark blue livery and I plan to make side boards with the Castle Brewery name and logo plus some wording such as 'Best Barley for Best Beers!'. Two hoppers may have the Headland Brewery logo and name as well, if I can fit it in! (As the two independent breweries have a co-operation agreement.) Then it can run to Trepol Bay. I also have Dapol BR Grey Grain Hoppers which will NOT be repainted, for variety.

The rare sulphates wagon was bought for repainting in Castle Estates's lighter blue livery to carry granite from the estates' quarry (the present load will be replaced with another removable one with real Cornish granite, courtesy of Martin, planned). It will be an experiment. If the finished wagon looks good, I plan to buy and make a 'twin' for it, next year when another wagon comes up for sale at a reasonable price on eBay.

The Headland Brewery box vans in the Black & Gold livery are eagerly awaited.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 06, 2014, 05:12:27 pm
The LMR, at Derby, have had another clear out of redundant vans which were sent down the Somerset & Dorset then forwarded to Cant Cove for overhaul and repainting over the Christmas break. Eastleigh had forwarded another redundant van to be added to the train and Nine Elms had sent a brand new milk tanker for conveying milk from the Castle Estates' prize-winning herd. One of Plymouth Laira's Class 42's, D814 "Dragon", being spare, was used to convey them to Cant Cove, at slow speed, following the WR's recent heavy investment in track upgrading in the Wadebridge area. As usual, the official photographer was there to record the train:

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Apologies for the poor quality photo., no bright sunlight here, today.

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Close-up of D814:

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The eagle-eyed will notice that D814 was sold to me without ANY standard couplings fitted. (They will be replaced in due course.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 06, 2014, 06:42:04 pm
Looks good and , of course, reminds me that I don't have a Warship.
They are not my favourite diesel type but I think one needs to be on the wishlist!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on December 06, 2014, 06:45:31 pm
The warship looks great Chris.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 06, 2014, 06:52:38 pm
Thanks, Martin and Jon. Of course, in reality, a Class 42 could never have run from Bodmin Road - Wadebridge - Padstow [Penmayne]. But they DID regularly run over the North Cornwall line from Exeter to Plymouth via Okehampton, so I have two: BR Maroon and BR Green and am tempted to add a BR Blue One! I do prefer "Hymeks" but am fond of "Warships", too. I think Port Perran should see one. 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 06, 2014, 06:54:42 pm
Thanks, Martin and Jon. Of course, in reality, a Class 42 could never have run from Bodmin Road - Wadebridge - Padstow [Penmayne]. But they DID regularly run over the North Cornwall line from Exeter to Plymouth via Okehampton, so I have two: BR Maroon and BR Green and am tempted to add a BR Blue One! I do prefer "Hymeks" but am fond of "Warships", too. I think Port Perran should see one. 8-)
Maybe in the future. To complement my Western, Hymek and Class 14.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 06, 2014, 06:57:44 pm
Class 42s also ran from Waterloo to Exeter and also hauled the "Atlantic Coast Express" to Exeter in its last summer.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 06, 2014, 06:59:13 pm
Thanks, Martin and Jon. Of course, in reality, a Class 42 could never have run from Bodmin Road - Wadebridge - Padstow [Penmayne]. But they DID regularly run over the North Cornwall line from Exeter to Plymouth via Okehampton, so I have two: BR Maroon and BR Green and am tempted to add a BR Blue One! I do prefer "Hymeks" but am fond of "Warships", too. I think Port Perran should see one. 8-)
Maybe in the future. To complement my Western, Hymek and Class 14.
I forgot my favourite, my Class 22 !!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on December 06, 2014, 07:33:53 pm
Yes I love the babies too. I get very tempted by all the different running numbers from Dapol, but can't really justify more than one.
I have "Dragon" too Chris....I might eventually go for a maroon one too.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on December 06, 2014, 07:43:17 pm
I have one more D63xx to get. This one will Dapol 2D-012-008 number D6311 in BR Green with disc headcodes.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 06, 2014, 07:47:13 pm
Many thanks, Martin. Very nice to see them running at Port Perran. I have a spare roof for the Peco grain hopper that is missing its. (I have two damaged blue Peco grain hoppers which have their roofs and I was planning to make one good hopper wagon from.) They will, as Martin, states, be repainted in Castle Brewery dark blue livery and I plan to make side boards with the Castle Brewery name and logo plus some wording such as 'Best Barley for Best Beers!'. Two hoppers may have the Headland Brewery logo and name as well, if I can fit it in! (As the two independent breweries have a co-operation agreement.) Then it can run to Trepol Bay. I also have Dapol BR Grey Grain Hoppers which will NOT be repainted, for variety.

The rare sulphates wagon was bought for repainting in Castle Estates's lighter blue livery to carry granite from the estates' quarry (the present load will be replaced with another removable one with real Cornish granite, courtesy of Martin, planned). It will be an experiment. If the finished wagon looks good, I plan to buy and make a 'twin' for it, next year when another wagon comes up for sale at a reasonable price on eBay.

The Headland Brewery box vans in the Black & Gold livery are eagerly awaited.
Just to report that those 4 new wagons have had quite a few circuits of my Port Perran layout this evening (hope you don't mind!), plus a run up to Trepol Bay.
They look good running first behind the Black Motor and later the Hymek and should be a very nice addition to your stock (especially when repainted and rebranded).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 06, 2014, 08:20:25 pm
I have one more D63xx to get. This one will Dapol 2D-012-008 number D6311 in BR Green with disc headcodes.

Plymouth Laira certainly had examples of the class with discs but I have not seen a photo. of one running in North Cornwall. If I buy a third Class 22 it will be in BR Blue but with a D. My two were renumbered (to D6313 and D6348) and lightly weathered by Pauline McKenna. However, I think my D6313 may not have the correct body type for one of the early D6313 to D6325 batch, although the headcode boxes are fine.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 06, 2014, 08:22:48 pm
Yes I love the babies too. I get very tempted by all the different running numbers from Dapol, but can't really justify more than one.
I have "Dragon" too Chris....I might eventually go for a maroon one too.

I am planning to have my D814 renumbered and renamed (as I did with my Maroon "Warship") to one known to have worked over the North Cornwall line.

I have read that "Warships" as well as "Hymeks" worked the Paddington - Bude trains the last summer the line was open. A mixed rake of BR Maroon ex-LMSR Stanier-design coaches and BR Standard Mark 1s was used.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 06, 2014, 08:30:13 pm

Just to report that those 4 new wagons have had quite a few circuits of my Port Perran layout this evening (hope you don't mind!), plus a run up to Trepol Bay.
They look good running first behind the Black Motor and later the Hymek and should be a very nice addition to your stock (especially when repainted and rebranded).

No problem, Martin, please, run them whenever you like and want to take a photo. of them with your "Hymek". I am glad that they not only reached Port Perran but also Trepol Bay and hope that one of those grain hoppers will return, regularly to Trepol Bay! I think they will look at home in North Cornwall when I have completed them, next month (I plan).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 10, 2014, 07:50:36 pm
A further batch of redundant wagons (indeed, an interesting selection!) has been moved up to Port Perran and Trepol Bay for eventual onward movement to Cant Cove (where they will be restored and repainted).
This batch of three wagons has come up to Port Perran from the Helston Branch via Gwinnear Road and Redruth (where they were held at Drump Road sidings for a few days).
The wagons will, in a few days, be moved on to Trepol Bay where they will be stored with other wagons (which came up from Penzance  last week) for eventual onward movement to Cant Cove where (no doubt) the Castle Estates painters will get to work.
The train is seen here (somewhat unusually, behind a Hymek) having just left Lanharrack (where it was held to allow a local passenger train to pass) en-route to Port Perran :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/wagons3_zpsb8ff4e1f.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/wagons3_zpsb8ff4e1f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 10, 2014, 08:00:51 pm
Many thanks, Martin. I agree they are an eclectic collection! But they will all be repainted in Castle Estates blue livery. That's a particularly nice picture which shows a lovely area of your layout. It cheered me up after a trying afternoon.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 10, 2014, 09:20:38 pm
Many thanks, Martin. I agree they are an eclectic collection! But they will all be repainted in Castle Estates blue livery. That's a particularly nice picture which shows a lovely area of your layout. It cheered me up after a trying afternoon.
Thanks Chris. I don't often photograph the Lanharrack side of the layout as it's a bit awkward for the camera. However, that area is possibly my favourite so I might try to get a few more pictures later.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 10, 2014, 09:48:52 pm
Thank you, Martin. I'd really appreciate more pictures of the Lanharrack side of the layout when you can. There is so much to study and admire. Very nice to see the horse-drawn log cart, too.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 12, 2014, 07:22:43 pm
In terms of Private Owner (PO) vans and wagons, I know that Cant Cove is NOT typical but there is a 'back story' to explain that that I plan to write over the Christmas break. However, for those who are interested (from the GWR Elist) here is, in terms of wagon types the data from 1956 (thanks to Paul Bartlett) where the split was as follows:

Mineral                                             43.3%             
Open merchandise                             32.4%
Covered merchandise                         15.8%
Rail & timber                                      5.4%
Goods Brake                                       1.6%
Cattle                                                 1.2%
Specials                                              0.3%

Another point to bear in mind is that the North Cornwall line was unusual in its lack of coal storage (staithes like the Ratio kit) in goods yards as coal wagons were unloaded directly into carts and, later, lorries, for distribution to customers. That said, Cant Cove WILL have coal storage in its goods yard (as I have already built one!) to supply local farms, etc., not to mention the "Railway Hotel"!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 13, 2014, 07:17:39 am
So, normally, almost half of my wagons should be mineral wagons. However, I will reduce that proportion as North Cornwall is neither an industrial nor a highly-populated area. But I still need more open and covered merchandise wagons. So, apart from buying a few more Graham Farish 'Blue Riband' ones, my New Year's Resolution is to buy, construct and paint some NGS wagon kits starting with ex-SR Vans. (I have the transfers.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 16, 2014, 09:39:30 pm
There is mounting anticipation in the Trepol Bay and Port Perran areas.
Has the timetable for the Christmas Specials been released yet and when do the special trains start running ?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 17, 2014, 02:56:02 pm
My apologies, Martin. More details will be posted very soon. (I have been very busy with end-of-semester.) The Fat Controller at Plymouth Division HQ has been negotiating with WR HQ in Paddington, supported by Cornwall County Council and the Lord and Lady of Trevelver Castle, near Cant Cove, to finalise the program of special trains and the posters and timetables.

A new addition is a special through train from Wolverhampton Low Level and Birmingham Snow Hill to Cant Cove, Port Perran, Trepol Bay and Weaver Cove to connect with the local program Christmas specials. A specially cleaned train of BR Standard Mk1s in Chocolate and Cream (maybe with some Maroon Mark 1s added if bookings continue to increase) behind a green "Western" for the journey through Warwickshire down to the West Country has been discussed. It could call at Bodmin Road for connections to Wadebridge (change for Cant Cove), Penmayne, Trepol Bay and Weaver Cove then Truro for connections to Port Perran and a portion (3 Chocolate & Cream Mk1s and up to 2 Maroon Mk1s) behind the Green "Western" will through to Port Perran from Truro. A portion (Chocolate & Cream Mk1s) to Penmayne (reverse and return to Wadebridge), Weaver Cove and Trepol Bay may also be detached at Bodmin Road with the remainder going on to Truro. A variety of steam and diesel locomotives are being considered for working this portion of the special.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 17, 2014, 07:34:57 pm
A reporter from the "Penmayne Post and Cant Cove Courier" local newspaper, affectionately known as the "P&C", has had to be reprimanded for writing misleading information (he could not read his notes as there was a dark ring from the bottom of a glass tankard of Castle Brewery 'Old Strong Winter Ale' (ABV - 5.5%) obscuring them). One of the sponsors of the local program of Christmas Special trains is, in fact, the Penmayne Pasty Co. whose wares will be available on the RMB Mini-buffet cars. A short rake of chocolate and cream Mark 1 RMBs Nos. W1813, W1816, and W1821 has just been reported to be on its way to Plymouth Laira for use attached to an ECS working. Other sponsors now include Cornwall County Council following an excellent dinner hosted at Trevelver Castle by its Lord and Lady.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 17, 2014, 07:42:25 pm
After a shunting accident at Cant Cove, over which the local management wishes to draw a veil, the twin of the SR long wheelbase brake van for use on the Trepol Bay incline has had to be written off as beyond economic repair. Fortunately, Eastleigh has sent a replacement which, however, ended up at Trepol Bay instead of Cant Cove where it has just been reported as arriving. In view of the preparations for the Christmas specials, it has been requested that the replacement brake van be kept out of the way until January when it can be forwarded with the other wagons which have recently arrived at Port Perran. Meanwhile the Cant Cove railwaymen are debating the best use for the van's recently repainted grounded body (these include positioning it to overlook the Cove's nudist beach!).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 17, 2014, 08:18:44 pm
Just to confirm that the brakevan has indeed arrived at Port Perran and will be stored (actually at Trepol Bay) awaiting transfer to Cant Cove in January.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 17, 2014, 10:17:57 pm
The proof copies of the railway posters (delayed by a printers' strike) for the Christmas Steam specials have finally arrived at Wadebridge (SR) and Truro (WR) for local distribution:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-CORNISHSTEAMSPECIALSPOSTER_zpsbce41c11.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-CORNISHSTEAMSPECIALSPOSTER_zpsbce41c11.jpg.html)

Additional versions of the poster with the central section, (under 15/-), can be changed to list the specific trains running from specific stations.

The font has now been changed to the one which British Railways used (Gill Sans).
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 18, 2014, 07:45:01 am
Looks good. Headline in a slightly different font/colour perhaps ?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 18, 2014, 07:51:51 am
Looks good. Headline in a slightly different font/colour perhaps ?

Yes, I'm not happy about the headline font, Martin. I've changed the entire font to Gill Sans which BR used.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 18, 2014, 09:58:10 am
Some (poor quality due to bad lighting) photographs have surfaced of some of the Christmas Steam specials:

"Jubilee" with Stanier design coaches on its way to Bodmin Road:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-12-18103456_zpsf010931a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-12-18103456_zpsf010931a.jpg.html)

Bodmin GWS's preserved 61XX with WR C&C stock which will run from Bodmin Road to Wadebridge:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-12-18102711_zpscbeffa04.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-12-18102711_zpscbeffa04.jpg.html)

Bodmin GWS's preserved 57XX with WR C&C stock which will run from Wadebridge to Penmayne:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-12-18101552_zpse7476298.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-12-18101552_zpse7476298.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: wookie on December 18, 2014, 03:00:13 pm
It seems to me that this here choo choo is going to be travelling through Wookery territory.
If you don't want trouble with the unions and all the signals set to red for you, I think you are going to have to let a King or Castle haul your coaches through Bristol  :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 18, 2014, 03:30:20 pm
As you know, Mike, "Jubilees" regularly hauled cross-country expresses trains to Bristol. A Bristol Barrow Road crew (driver, fireman, both ASLEF members plus an inspector, NUR) with the necessary pilotmen (all NUR members) have already agreed to take the sold-out ex-Leeds special train through to Exeter where a second Bristol Barrow Road crew, again, with the necessary pilotman, will be waiting to take it on to Bodmin Road where the train will terminate, passengers transferring to the steam shuttle service to Wadebridge where they can change on to a variety of steam hauled specials to Penmayne or Trepol Bay (some going via Weaver Cove) or even down to Port Perran (via Newquay). There are also scheduled services from Port Perran to Truro. Some services may be diesel-hauled or diesel units where required.

As there is also a fast selling-out connecting special (provisionally formed: BCK,SK,CK,SK,BSK) from Wolverhampton LL and Birmingham Snow Hill (hauled by a brand new BR Green "Western"; by the end of 1962, diesels were making major inroads into the WR loco. fleet) calling at Bodmin Road (where a portion will be detached for Wadebridge) then Truro before going through to Port Perran, there is no reason why the Bristol Division cannot send a "Castle" or "King" hauled special to Bodmin Road and Truro, too! (Locos. to be changed over at Exeter.) I'm sure that the enthusiast grapevine has already been asking for one. However, whether a "Castle" hauled train can run through to Port Perran must be taken up with local management. 8-) There are still suitable paths as the South-West is, of course, operating the Winter 1962 and not Summer timetable.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 18, 2014, 03:59:45 pm
As the "Station Hotel", Cant Cove, will be hosting a mini beer festival with the full winter range of Castle Brewery and Headland Brewery ales plus imported Kronenbourg, all on draft, to celebrate the Christmas Steam Specials, GWS Bodmin are going to run their 14XX plus two preserved GWR autocoaches (all still in various BR liveries) in the path of the Summer Timetable's "Cant Cove Shuttle" between Wadebridge, Cant Cove and Penmayne. Should passenger numbers require it, the Collet SK used on market days with the local B Set will be added; Penmayne's station pilot (a SR Class 03 or 04) and Wadebridge's (a GWR 1366 Class 0-6-0PT dock tank) will have to smartly move the Collett to the rear of the train, a manoeuvre sure to add extra interest for the railway enthusiasts!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 18, 2014, 07:22:57 pm
It is to be hoped that pictures of  the special arriving at Port Perran will be published tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 18, 2014, 07:55:32 pm
It is to be hoped that pictures of  the special arriving at Port Perran will be published tomorrow.

Excellent, news. The first day of the Cornish Christmas Steam Specials looks like getting off to a great start, Martin! 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on December 18, 2014, 08:37:29 pm
Looking great Chris. Weaver Cove running specials will be coming up this weekend. :D :D
Your running specials look great Chris.


Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 18, 2014, 09:05:41 pm
Looking great Chris. Weaver Cove running specials will be coming up this weekend. :D :D
Your running specials look great Chris.

Thanks, Jon. (The "Jubilee" needs the tender connector fixing and the GWR 61XX has some missing patches of paint, which will need fixing.) I hope to actually be able to run these (non-DCC) trains, next month! I look forward to the Weaver Cove specials, this weekend.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 19, 2014, 12:16:47 am
The local railwaymen in the Wadebridge area have heard that a special train from Wolverhampton LL and Birmingham Snow Hill will be departing tomorrow morning carrying excited railway (and beer) enthusiasts to the Cornish Christmas Steam Specials. The stationmaster at Bodmin Road has been warned that the special hauled by one of the brand new Green D10XX "Westerns" (with a travelling Swindon trained fitter in attendance), will be leaving a portion there to be taken forward to Wadebridge and Penmayne. The details will be sent by telex early tomorrow but the BR WR Chocolate & Cream Mark 1 formation is said to be: BCK, SK, SO, RMB, CK -- 1st class section next to RMB, BSK, Green "Western"; with both the guard's sections positioned at the outer ends (as was BR regulations for many years for passenger safety reasons). I have all of those coaches so can show a portion (BCK, SK, SO) running through to Penmayne, via Wadebridge, with one of my WR steam locos. with the other portion RMB, CK -- 1st class section next to RMB, BSK, Green "Western" running through from Truro to Port Perran, assuming the catering crew are willing to man their coach all that way. If not the RMB will run through to Penmayne at the end of the BCK, SK, SO formation and a local crew supported by staff and supplies from the "Railway Hotel" will take over. it is rumoured that a FK may be added at Wadebridge for the Lord and Lady of Trevelver Castle and their special guests. Tomorrow, we will see! 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Paddy on December 19, 2014, 03:35:59 am
Looking great Chris. Weaver Cove running specials will be coming up this weekend. :D :D
Your running specials look great Chris.

Thanks, Jon. (The "Jubilee" needs the tender connector fixing and the GWR 61XX has some missing patches of paint, which will need fixing.) I hope to actually be able to run these (non-DCC) trains, next month! I look forward to the Weaver Cove specials, this weekend.

Looking forward to seeing them run Chris.

Merry Christmas

Paddy
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 19, 2014, 08:21:56 am
Thanks, Paddy. I wish you a Merry Christmas, too, and continued excellent railway modelling. The plan for Cant Cove is to lay the scenery blocks of insulating material after Christmas, install the wiring underneath and then add the track and wire droppers. Not all the track will be permanently positioned immediately as trial running will have to take place and a Hex Frog Juicer purchased. At first, operation will be DC only until the DCC Controller arrives. However, not all locos are DCC and not all DCC-fitted motive power is here, yet.

Excellent news: my landlord is a pro with wiring and soldering! :claphappy: So, come January he can put his skills to the test!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 19, 2014, 02:52:23 pm
The local owners of boarding houses, inns, and hotels in North and West Cornwall are already stating that the Cornish Christmas Steam Specials program of events is the best thing that has happened to the local tourist trade for decades. BR WR and SR HQs are congratulating themselves for backing it as is Cornwall County Council; after all it is said that success has many proud parents! The directors of the Castle Brewery, Headland Brewery, and Penmayne Pasty Co., are similarly congratulated themselves on listening to the eloquent Lady of Trevelver Castle and her enthusiastic daughter, Sylvia, for sponsoring such an unusual program of events. Meanwhile, the Head Chef of the "Railway Hotel", Cant Cove, is turning the air blue with oaths as he tries to oversee all the special culinary events. Fortunately, only those who understand Cornish can comprehend his Breton oaths! Sylvia and her Chelsea Girls have been to the final fitting of their Christmas Elf costumes and distributing the collecting boxes for Dr. Barnados, their chosen charity for this Christmas' events.

The latest rumour is that a specially reinstated BR WR "King" class locomotive will reappear (the last ones having been withdrawn from BR service earlier in the year) at Exeter on a special train of BR Maroon Collett coaches promoted by the previously little-known Wookery Preservation Society, (WPS). The "King" will haul the coaches to Exeter, where a "Battle of Britain" class loco. (rumoured to be 34064 "Fighter Command") is now provisionally booked to take the train on from Exeter to Bodmin Road (for connections with the steam specials to Wadebridge) and then on to Truro (for connections with the steam specials to Port Perran and Newquay). Some coaches may be detached for Wadebridge at Bodmin Road and some at Truro for Port Perran if there is sufficient demand and suitable local arrangements to take them forward can be made in time.

Meanwhile, BR SR HQ in Waterloo has been dusting off a faded copy of the 1954 timetable and making plans to temporarily reinstate the 'Special Connection' of 26 & 27 December 1954 for the coming weekend to bring enthusiasts to Penmayne in time for the next days' events. The train is scheduled to depart Waterloo at 16.00 and will arrive at Exeter at 20.16 where a N Class loco. will take charge (unfortunately as it will be running at night, no photos. are likely). The 'Special Connection' is scheduled to arrive at Wadebridge at 23.31, Cant Cove at 23.38, departing at 23.40 (this very unusual stop is for guests of the "Railway Hotel" -- a bar extension has been granted until 1AM in the back bar) and Trevelver Castle (where the bar never closes over Christmas and New Year) ), finally arriving at Penmayne at 23.44 (local accommodation owners at all stops have been warned). The volunteer railwaymen who are keeping the Bodmin General - Wadebridge to Penmayne line open an extra hour until midnight especially to allow the safe arrival and departure of the 'Special Connection' have been promised a crate each of bottled Castle Brewery 'Christmas Ale' (ABV 7%) and an extra large Penmayne Pasty on top of the usual overtime payment!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 19, 2014, 05:03:18 pm
The members of the Cornish Loco. Pres. Group (CLPG) at Cant Cove and the GWS at Bodmin General have been hard at work preparing their steam locomotives plus making ready for the visitors. BR staff at Penmayne, Cant Cove, and Wadebridge are at summer peak staffing levels; as have been, earlier this week, the staff at the Penmayne Pasty Co., and earlier this month, the staff at the Castle Brewery making sure that all the local licensed premises are fully stocked as if it were a summer weekend. The overnight 00.15 from Waterloo has been sold out for every night from the 18th to 24th inclusive and several extra 'loose' Maunsell SKs have had to be added as well as the reserved SR BR Mark 1 FK and RMB for the night of Friday 21st to bring Sylvia and the Chelsea crowd down for the party at Trevelver Castle following the party at the family's Chelsea town house. A loaded "Terry's All Gold" box van, from York, and a Ferry Van from Burgundy (disguised as carrying bananas) have been delivered to the end of the Castle branch for unloading! The photographer and his assistant had to be booked into a double room at the "Railway Hotel", Cant Cove, as all the other rooms were booked . . . For some reason they did not seem to be at all inconvenienced; maybe it was the chilled bottle of champagne and two flute glasses left in their room anonymously paid for by their friends in the CLPG?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: johnlambert on December 20, 2014, 08:25:47 am
The first Christmas Special from Wolverhampton Low Level to Cornwall departed behind a specially prepared green D10xx Western with a train comprising  BSK, CK (1st class section next to the RMB), RMB, SO, SK, BCK.

Pathing restrictions meant the train was routed from Birmingham Snow Hill to via Hatton North Junction where it passed through Claverdon before proceeding to Bearley West Junction.

Passing under the Warwick Road bridge a couple of young spotters are keen to get a rare look at one of the new Western diesels on this line.

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/fourwheelsteer/Train%20and%20model%20rail%20stuff/100_5053_zpscd89ce7a.jpg) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/fourwheelsteer/media/Train%20and%20model%20rail%20stuff/100_5053_zpscd89ce7a.jpg.html)

It looks like a bit of weed-killing is due on the line.

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It wasn't easy to get a picture of the whole train but here's the Western with BSK, CK and RMB

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/fourwheelsteer/Train%20and%20model%20rail%20stuff/100_5058_zpsd87b52c9.jpg) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/fourwheelsteer/media/Train%20and%20model%20rail%20stuff/100_5058_zpsd87b52c9.jpg.html)

Seasonal best wishes to one and all!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 20, 2014, 08:57:35 am
Many thanks, John, for those excellent photos. of the special going down to Cornwall calling at Bodmin Road (where a portion will be taken forward to Wadebridge and Penmayne) and Truro from where the remainder of the special will terminate at Port Perran. I can see that it is an lovely sunny morning in Warwickshire (as it is here). I hope that it is also in Cornwall.

Season's Greetings to all.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 20, 2014, 08:09:38 pm
At Cant Cove, "The Station Hotel"'s saloon bar is jam packed this evening, Thursday, 20th December, 1962 and the pints of Castle Brewery and Headland Brewery ales are disappearing fast as the members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group (Cant Cove) entertain their friends from the GWS at Bodmin General and Port Perran as well as their fellow members from the CLPG at Penmayne and Trepol Bay and friends from Weaver Cove as they discuss the events of the first two days of the Cornish Christmas Steam Specials with local railwaymen from Penmayne, Cant Cove, Wadebridge, Weaver Cove, Port Perran, and Trepol Bay. All are agreed that the events have been successful beyond their most optimistic dreams. Friendly argument follows over what was the biggest mainline success so far: the temporarily reinstated "King" running from Wookery to Exeter, the "Battle of Britain" over the WR mainline from Exeter to Bodmin Road and Truro or a brand new "Western" running through from Wolverhampton to Bodmin Road, Truro then Port Perran; making the 3rd "Western" to appear locally on long distance specials after the Maroon one on matching BR Maroon Collets on the 19th and the Green one on an 'illegal' rake of Chocolate & Cream Mark 1s earlier that day. All are agreed that Penmayne's BR Standard 82XXX and Bodmin GWS's 57XX and 61XX tank locos. were only matched by Trepol Bay's Southern T9, "Black Motor", and newly arrived surprise M7 for their performance on trains of packed carriages on the local lines. Their colleagues from Weaver Cove add that tomorrow will see a program of specials working over the normally freight only loop line which they are sure will be at least as as successful. Grinning, they add that they have been tipped off that a camera crew from Westward Television (only launched the year before and already well-regarded locally) will be busy filming at Weaver Cove, tomorrow.

Finally, long after last orders should have been called (the local PC being safely asleep in the police house in Penmayne), all agree to meet, again, tomorrow evening at the "Cornish Arms", Port Perran, where, again, free Cornish Pasties will be served to the party. At precisely 23.28, the 'Christmas Special Connection' ex-Waterloo, arrives at the station's down platform where Trevelver Castle's waiting staff take the Castle's guests' baggage and see them settled into the waiting taxis as the last stragglers board the packed train, formed of a scratch set of whatever serviceable coaches could be found in Clapham Junction's sidings, taking them to their waiting beds in Penmayne. As Cant Cove's yawning stationmaster sees the last unsteady passenger safely on the train, checks all doors are closed and shows a green light on his SR lantern to the driver of, surprisingly, an immaculate Bulleid "Battle of Britain", 34064 "Fighter Command" no less, (returning to Penmayne after its triumphs on the WR mainline), as he watches the receding tail lamp, he reflects happily that the extra hour's overtime every night from the 19th to 24th will come in very handy for a last minute extra present for his wife patiently waiting upstairs in their quarters with a large mug of hot cocoa for him. Who was that designer his wife was mentioning who was a friend of Miss Sylvia from the Castle, Mary Quint was it, he wonders as he listens to the train rumble over the iron bridge over the inlet to the Cove, then, whistling, plunge into Cant Hill Tunnel before following the bank of the River Camel to Penmayne and the end of the line. He yawns, again, turns off the station lights, pats his faithful dog unused to being up at this late hour, locks the last door and slowly climbs the creaking stairs to bed. These Cornish Christmas Steam Specials have really been most successful; why, even that Dr. Beeching is said to be impressed with this example of local commercial initiative but has asked to see the proof that the trains have, indeed, made a profit. Ah, well, that's not his problem; the Castle Estate's chief accountant will take care of that!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 20, 2014, 09:17:35 pm
The Cornish Arms at Port Perran has been similarly busy.
Many enthusiasts are anticipating other special arrivals on Sunday (tomorrow), though these have not been confirmed.  It is also rumoured that a special train will make its way from Trepol Bay and Port Perran to the Weaver Cove area to witness the various specials traversing the freight only branch there.
News has reached the Cornish Arms that today's special headed by a green Western has now arrived back at Wolverhampton LL some 15 minutes early. Overall, a faultless trip by the Class 52.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 21, 2014, 08:17:00 pm
All the happy railway enthusiasts crowded into the the "Cornish Arms", at Port Perran, have certainly had plenty to celebrate. Many are making plans to travel to the Weaver Cove area, the next day, to enjoy the program of special trains there. Port Perran's stationmaster has left a chalked up noticeboard above the bar confirming that there will, indeed, be a special train from Trepol Bay and Port Perran to the Weaver Cove area. No-one though yet knows what the loco. or stock will be. The expertise of the Swindon fitter, travelling in the rear cab of the returning BR Green "Western", was not required once; just as well, as he spent the entire return journey to Wolverhampton Low Level sleeping off the effects of too many Headland Brewery ales consumed in that very same inn!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 22, 2014, 05:13:41 pm
For the first part of a Christmas story about Sylvia and one of the 'Santa Specials' from Wadebridge, via Weaver Cove, to Trepol Bay, please, see: A Cant Cove (well, Weaver Cove) Christmas Story, on the Weaver Cove thread. I hope you like it; Sylvia and the Chelsea Girls will never forget that day, nor will the Wadebridge crew, driver Dave Hollow and fireman Mike Harris of pannier tank 5759, not to mention its crowded B Set of passengers and guard, 'Father Christmas', and one small boy from Weaver Cove!

WADEBRIDGE 57XXs:

3633 and 3679 (November to December 1959) were replaced by 4666 and 4694 (to 73F Wadebridge in late 1959, which lasted for about three years before being reallocated to 72A Exmouth Junction, in February 1963, being withdrawn from there in 1965).

(Another source lists the following as having been Wadebridge  allocated: 4666, 4669, 4694, 9770.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 23, 2014, 07:46:01 pm
ELVIS at Cant Cove (a belated reposting after the previous post never appeared)

Excellent responses, guys. 8-) If the truth ever gets out about Elvis' secret times spent in North Cornwall, I'm sure there is at least a Master's thesis to be written on the true influences behind the songs that Elvis sang in the 1950s and 1960s!

The 1957 song, "All Shook Up" recorded by Elvis Presley was composed by Otis Blackwell and Elvis Presley. The old four-wheel coach, which is used for private parties from Cant Cove to Trevelver Castle, certainly was not renowned for its smooth riding on the branchline before it was relaid in the 1960s. No doubt Elvis recalled that experience when singing this song in the "Railway Hotel" snug.

"It's Now or Never" was recorded by Elvis Presley in 1960. The lyrics were written by Aaron Schroeder and Wally Gold. It is indeed rumoured that those lyrics were going through young Elvis's head when he left the "Station Hotel", with Alice, after closing time and a few too many 'Castle Best Bitters' . . .

"Harbor Lights" was, indeed sung by Elvis Presley. However, it was written by Hugh Williams (pseudonym for Will Grosz) with lyrics by Jimmy Kennedy. This song was originally sung by Frances Langford in 1937, and was published again in 1950. However, it was, indeed, another of the songs that the regulars in the "Railway Hotel" snug remember Elvis singing sometimes and Elvis had, often, ridden with Penmayne railwaymen on the Penmayne - Wadebridge - Trepol Bay (often via Weaver Cove) trains and, when they had booked off, they had often taken their young friend to one or more of the local hostelries in the area and he must, therefore, have seen the harbour lights passing through Weaver Cove as well as at Trepol Bay . . . 8-)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 24, 2014, 02:53:34 pm
Late afternoon Christmas Eve 'Santa Special' from Penmayne to Trepol Bay between Wadebridge and Weaver Cove East Junction behind one of Wadebridge's 57xx 0-6-0PTs, 4666, with every carriage (Mark 1s plus two Bulleids) left in the area full of happy families:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-SantaSpecialChristmasEvebetweenWadebridgeampWeaverCoveEJn_zps146e589a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-SantaSpecialChristmasEvebetweenWadebridgeampWeaverCoveEJn_zps146e589a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 24, 2014, 09:20:02 pm
After Friday, 21st December, 1962 and yet more pints of Castle Brewery and Headland Brewery at the "Cornish Arms", Port Perran, (an update is expected, later), the next evening the members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group (Cant Cove, Penmayne, and Trepol Bay) together with their friends from the GWS at Bodmin General and Port Perran, travelled on a special ex-GWR diesel railcar service (so only two railwaymen had to draw lots to stay sober instead of three) to visit their friends at Weaver Cove, in the "Smugglers' Den", where they reviewed the events of the first four days of the Cornish Christmas Steam Specials with local railwaymen from Cant Cove, Newquay, Penmayne, Port Perran, Trepol Bay, Truro, Wadebridge, and Weaver Cove. All are agreed that the events have been even more successful than anyone, even Lady Penelope of Trevelver Castle, who was the marketing genius who drove the program forward by getting everyone together at the Castle earlier that year, had ever hoped for. Across the area, guest houses, inns and hotels have been exceptionally busy; as have the pubs!

Much money has also been raised for the continued restoration and operation of the GWS's 57XX and 61XX tank locos. and Trepol Bay's Southern T9, "Black Motor", and newly arrived surprise M7 on the local lines. Their colleagues from Weaver Cove announced that the program of specials working over the normally freight only loop line have been a complete sell-out, too, and that the camera crew from Westward Television had indeed been filming at Weaver Cove, as promised. The Castle Estate's Chief Accountant was seen almost grinning when he was going through the profit and loss sheet for the Cornish Christmas Steam Specials which, everyone who knows him, agrees is a VERY positive sign!

Dr. Beeching has sent a congratulatory telegram after receiving a very positive preliminary report from the BR Plymouth Division manager. Rumour has it that, if the promised subsidies from Cornwall County Council and local businesses together with the rising revenues from increased passengers plus investment by local businesses in continuing use of railfreight, including their own rail wagons and vans, continue, the local lines, after suitable rationalisation, including the long-promised (but never implemented by the SR) Centralised Traffic Control, may escape recommendation for closure in the good doctor's coming report on the future of BR. Lady Penelope's lobbying and marketing campaigns are proving to be highly successful.

With the Dr. Barnardo's collecting boxes safely in the Castle safe, no-one knows, yet, just how successful Sylvia and her girls have been in collecting money from the passengers on the specials but their enthusiasm, friendliness and, not least, Christmas Elf costumes, have been judged a great contributory success to the program.

Finally, again long after last orders should have been called (the local PC being safely asleep in the police house in Trepol Bay), the ex-GWR diesel railcar and autocoach trailer, which had been waiting for them at the temporary platform, departed for Trepol Bay, where the autocoach was uncoupled, before departing for Wadebridge then Penmayne, stopping at Cant Cove, where they crew picked up a crate each of mixed bottled ales from the Castle and Headland Breweries to take home as an additional thank you from all their happy passengers.

The only puzzle has been the non-appearance of one of the "Smugglers' Den" regulars who had stepped in as a temporary replacement 'Father Christmas' on the Santa Specials . . .
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 25, 2014, 08:05:52 am
All the members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group (Cant Cove, Penmayne, and Trepol Bay) with their friends from the GWS at Bodmin General and Port Perran, together with their friends at Weaver Cove, in the "Smugglers' Den", the Lord and Lady of Trevelver Castle, and Sylvia and all the 'Chelsea Girls' (who send their kisses), the staff of BR SR and WR Plymouth Division, the Castle and Headland Breweries, Castle Estates, and the Penmayne Pasty Co., send their Christmas Greetings and all best wishes to all for the coming year. See you in Cornwall in 1962!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 27, 2014, 09:22:30 pm
The Christmas story of Sylvia and the 'Chelsea Girls' on the Santa Special to Weaver Cove is now complete and the parts can be found on Jon's Weaver Cove thread for anyone who is interested.

In Layout Planning, as promised, I will be writing the backstory of the Penmayne and Wadebridge Railway and the intertwined history of the family who live in Trevelver Castle. Next Christmas, I'm planning to write of how Dr. Beeching was visited by the (Cornish) Christmas Ghosts!

For those who would rather see models of the railway kind, I will be painting more Private Owner vans and wagons, some for Jon (Weaver Cove) and working on transfers for the various companies' PO stock. And for those who want to see scenery in place with track and wiring, that, too, is planned for Cant Cove early next year!
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Bob Wild on December 27, 2014, 11:17:14 pm
And for those who want to see scenery in place with track and wiring, that, too, is planned for Cant Cove early next year!

Can't wait.

Bob
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 29, 2014, 10:41:56 am
And for those who want to see scenery in place with track and wiring, that, too, is planned for Cant Cove early next year!

Can't wait.

Bob

Thanks, Bob. I have had a year to read and think about others' experiences, get the scenic pieces (insulating material offcuts and squares) and the 'ring main' (bus) wire ready. (And I'm happy not to have rushed into doing everything.) I have had all the track and points (with a couple to spare), both types of rail joiners (not Fleischmann though) and plenty of track pins since the summer. As my landlord is an excellent handyman and electrician I have also been waiting for when we both have free time to cut and glue the scenic pieces, lay the bus wire underneath, lay the track on top of the scenic pieces and drill the holes alongside and connect all the droppers. Not everything will be done immediately as I need to try out the track fitting before nailing, wiring and soldering everything in place. However, the aim is to have some trains running on some of the track by the end of January. I definitely need the 'main line' in place as it is curved and the station platform has to be made to fit with my BR Blue outside crank Class 08 (already DCC-fitted) plus rolling stock used for track gauging.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 29, 2014, 12:37:12 pm
Glad to hear that the layout is about to "take off". Very much looking forward to seeing pictures.
I know opinion is divided on track pins but just to say that I used them on Port Perran but have used Copydex on Trepol Bay as I found it easier to use. That's just a personal opinion though.
Will be doing a bit of work on either Trepol Bay or on wagon painting this afternoon.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Mito on December 29, 2014, 06:37:52 pm
After all the rush of organizing all the specials a nice quiet time getting your own "special" up and running will make a nice change.
What an imagination you have and the Christmas story was superb. Thanks to all the layouts it made model railways into a railway that was believable. I enjoyed it very much, thank you.
I'm sure Sylvia would make a lovely Easter Bunny. :heart2: :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 30, 2014, 07:24:38 am
Glad to hear that the layout is about to "take off". Very much looking forward to seeing pictures.
I know opinion is divided on track pins but just to say that I used them on Port Perran but have used Copydex on Trepol Bay as I found it easier to use. That's just a personal opinion though.
Will be doing a bit of work on either Trepol Bay or on wagon painting this afternoon.

Thanks, Martin. I am looking forward to getting the layout under way, too. Four weeks should be enough to make good progress. I used Peco track pins, successfully, on my previous layout that had a chipboard base. I'm hoping pins will work as well with insulating board on a wooden frame. I have not seen 'Copydex' for sale, here, although I am sure that there must be a local equivalent. For straight sections of track I might try gluing.

I look forward to seeing further progress on Trepol Bay and the wagons.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 30, 2014, 07:34:06 am
After all the rush of organizing all the specials a nice quiet time getting your own "special" up and running will make a nice change.
What an imagination you have and the Christmas story was superb. Thanks to all the layouts it made model railways into a railway that was believable. I enjoyed it very much, thank you.
I'm sure Sylvia would make a lovely Easter Bunny. :heart2: :goggleeyes:

Thanks, Nito. Organising the specials was some pre-Christmas fun for a group of us. It was nice to 'see' trains travel from one layout to another (another reason why I must get some track laid). I think it made operating various layouts special as it captured various members' imagination and made them feel part of a larger, 'real' railway. It did for me, anyway. It helped, of course, that several of us have similar locos. and rolling stock. I hope we will do more at Easter and over the summer. All the organisations and people involved with the Cornish Christmas Steam Specials were very pleased with the results. 8-)

I have always had a good imagination and really enjoy thinking over the 'back story' for the somewhat different history of the railways in North and West Cornwall. I am very happy that you enjoyed the Christmas story. I was hoping that others had, too. I am sure that Sylvia and her friends will appear, again. I actually have several sets of 1960s Preiser N Scale figures in 1960s fashions including the 'Chelsea Girls', beat group, an air hostess, and some 'cool guys'! They will be seen at Cant Cove.

Research (mainly, there were many others) came from two books that I was reading over the holidays and which I thoroughly recommend: "Beeching: Champion of the Railway?" by R.H.N. Hardy and "Ready, Steady, Go! Swinging London and the Invention of Cool" by Shawn Levy.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on December 30, 2014, 12:58:05 pm
I enjoyed the story and the fact that Cove was asked to be used I was very honoured. I am looking forward to running Easter special as well as summer ones.
Jon
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 30, 2014, 01:00:41 pm
Yes....great story.
More to come at Easter ?
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 30, 2014, 09:58:31 pm
The Cornish Arms at Port Perran is well stocked with the produce of the Headland Brewery and the Castle Brewery at Cant Cove and is expecting a VERY lively evening tomorrow.
No doubt there will be some sore heads in the area on Thursday morning !
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on December 30, 2014, 10:43:26 pm
I know the it will be a busy night in the smuggler arms tomorrow night.  :D :D
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 31, 2014, 06:33:01 am
Yes....great story.
More to come at Easter ?

Thanks, Jon and Martin. There are plans for more Cornish Steam Specials at Easter and in the Summer in North and Northwest Cornwall and I have an idea for a new Christmas story featuring Dr. Beeching. There will be celebrations for the (re)opening of the "Railway Hotel" at Cant Cove, the steam-hauled "Cornish Belle" Pullman train (there will be a "Miss Cornish Belle", too), the steam-hauled "Atlantic Coast Express" (both summer only) and pop concerts in the grounds of Trevelver Castle. Sylvia and the 'Chelsea Girls' will certainly want to be involved with at least some of these events.

Late licences have been applied for and granted for the hotels, inns, pubs, and taverns in Cant Cove and Penmayne. Due to the great success of the special trains over Christmas and all the rail enthusiasts in the area, the Castle Brewery and Headland Brewery were in full production in the weeks before Christmas and, based on previous years' records, there should be enough beer delivered, settled and ready to tap in cellars for New Year's Eve. Rail wagons were despatched and unloaded on the 27th  so the beer should be in fine condition for this evening.

The last train of the day is the 22.43 (FSO, public holidays, 24 & 31 December; normally, the last train is the 21.08 from Bodmin Road to Penmayne and then Penmayne to Wadebridge, a. 22.16) from Wadebridge, a 57XX with a SR Maunsell 2P set, arriving at 22.50 and departing at 22.52 from Cant Cove and terminating at Penmayne at 22.56. The 57XX is then scheduled to run as a Light Engine to Penmayne steam shed at 23.07 and be on shed at 23.17. (In practice the crew will be eager to have their loco. safely berthed and to sign off as quickly as possible.) Apart from one member of railway staff at Penmayne shed, all other railwaymen will be off duty by 11PM and in their favourite hostelry. Taxis have been prebooked for those who do not want to walk home in the early hours of New Year's Day!

At Trevelver Castle there will be the customary New Year Celebrations, including a Ball with Fireworks at Midnight and Sylvia and her friends are eager to show off their new ball gowns.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 31, 2014, 06:43:16 am
The back story for the Trevelvers plus the Penmayne and Bodmin Railway and associated lines is well under way. This morning though I have to return to Prague. In Brno there is a light coating of snow and the low temperatures usual for December.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: weave on December 31, 2014, 06:59:18 am
Hi Chris,

Like the 'Taxis have been pre booked'. Very PC for us now.

Am sure your local 'other PC's will been in fine fettle...blind eye, tractor cross the fields etc. Throw the really messy ones in the trailer!  :beers:

Safe trip and HAPPY NEW YEAR.

PS Looking forward to the Chelsea girl Easter bunny outfits  ;)

Cheers weave

Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on December 31, 2014, 07:41:35 am
By the Spring/Early Summer, Trepol Bay station should be up and running so will be able to take part in the various Summer specials.
Hopefully, we will also be in a position to run even more through goods/parcels trains.
Have a good trip back to Prague.
After 3 or 4 days of chilly starts then beautiful cloudless skies it's dark and dank (but milder) here this morning.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: weave on December 31, 2014, 08:25:35 am
Hi Chris,

Like the 'Taxis have been pre booked'. Very PC for us now.

Am sure your local 'other PC's will been in fine fettle...blind eye, tractor cross the fields etc. Throw the really messy ones in the trailer!  :beers:

Safe trip and HAPPY NEW YEAR.

PS Looking forward to the Chelsea girl Easter bunny outfits  ;)



Cheers weave

Just read that back...with regard to the tractor/trailer thing, meant helpful farmers not the Police!  :)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 01, 2015, 11:35:31 am
Happy New Year to all! I safely returned to Prague, yesterday afternoon. There was no fresh snow but quite a lot in Prague.

The Cant Cove PWM trolley (a white metal kit I will build later this year -- I wonder should it be painted SR Green or BR Crimson & Green, more difficult) was found safely stabled in Wadebridge station sidings but, as this has happened before, and no trains were running (although some one must have operated the points a local signaller must also have been involved) local management are not investigating with the assumption that a sober PWM department member will return it ASAP to its little wooden shed before it is officially reported as being missing.

From "The Railway Hotel", Cant Cove, the prebooked taxis arrived and departed with their 'tired and emotional' passengers in the early hours of the morning. Whilst, at little faster than walking pace, Farmer Menadue did indeed take home the last remaining customers of the nearby "Tramway Inn", in a trailer lined with bales of hay and loose straw, behind his Fordson tractor.

The local Police Constables at Cant Cove, Penmayne, and Weaver Cove were indeed out and about on their bicycles inbetween drinking black coffee in the public bars of the various local hostelries where they kept an eye open for anyone likely to cause trouble for themselves and others. Wearing thermal underwear gifted (in return for testimonials and photos -- in uniform -- by one of the clients of the London advertising company for which Sylvia works (a large contribution to the Policemen's Ball was also given together with a brace of pheasants and a bottle of vintage port to the Chief Constable by Lady Penelope) the PCs survived the chill night on duty, sober.

In his chauffeur-driven Black & Grey Daimler, the Chief Constable (fortified by brandy from his silver hip flask) also made a tour of inspection before the official Licence Extensions expired before, gratefully, returning to the New Year's Ball at Trevelver Castle where he would be staying for the New Year's Day celebrations. Once the the Chief Constable's chauffeur had returned home, a discreet 'phone call was made to the landlord of the hostelry where each local PC had previously arranged to be at a certain time and the policeman gratefully locked his push bike in one of the pub's outbuildings before removing his police helmet and coat and gratefully settling down on a reserved stool at the bar to join in the celebrations until dawn!

No-one has dared to suggest any Easter Bunny outfits to Sylvia, as yet, and is highly unlikely that Mary Quant would produce such outfits, even for the 'Chelsea Girls', as the Christmas Elf outfits were a special favour with no official order number given them. (However, as Lady Penelope did spend some time in the U.S.A., before her marriage, she would certainly be aware of the 'Easter Bunny' and did arrange Easter Egg hunts at Trevelver Castle for her two children and their friends when they were younger.) However, there will be the "Cornish Belle" bikini beauty competition coming at Easter to promote the steam-hauled, summer only "Cornish Belle" Pullman service to / from Waterloo, publicised by leading London advertising agency, S H Benson Ltd., where Sylvia now works.

However, in the early hours of New Year's Day, Sylvia's reprobate elder brother, Gerald, (who 'manages' "The Railway Hotel" famous for its restaurant's excellent cuisine but notorious for its popularity with couples wanting to escape the possibility of being seen together and, with his German proto-hippy wife, Brigita, the restaurant on a rock off the beach at Penmayne, (very popular with the Pink Floyd), famous for its Greek cuisine, never closing and serving alcohol at all hours of the summer season) ) was overheard trying to interest various of the 'Chelsea Girls' in a summer morning 'artistic' photo shoot at Cant Cove for his planned 'gentlemen's magazine, "Avant". After his offer was repeatedly turned down, Suzi slapped Gerald, hard, before his wife, Brigita, with the help of the Head Butler, escorted him to his bedroom and locked him in! However, Gerald is a rich and persuasive young man so he is confident that he will find some pretty young models willing to pose 'artistically' for his magazine! Alas, being a family Website, such scandalous pictures will have to remain unseen. (The photo shoot will also have to be scheduled for when Cant Cove's stationmaster and family, staunch Methodists, as many Cornish are, are on holiday and a more 'flexible' relief stationmaster, from out of the district, is in charge. The other railway staff, alas, being regular recipients of Gerald's hospitality in the public bar of the "The Railway Hotel", have no moral scruples about such activities; indeed the signalman has offered the use of his signal box as a changing room!)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 01, 2015, 12:31:07 pm
By the Spring/Early Summer, Trepol Bay station should be up and running so will be able to take part in the various Summer specials.
Hopefully, we will also be in a position to run even more through goods/parcels trains.
Have a good trip back to Prague.
After 3 or 4 days of chilly starts then beautiful cloudless skies it's dark and dank (but milder) here this morning.

Thanks, Martin. That is good news. I still need to examine the Working Time Table for Penmayne - Cant Cove - Wadebridge to see which services could be extended; however, most are out-and-back services. In general, connections are made at Wadebridge as part of the rationalised, integrated services in the area; however, there will be some regular through workings from Penmayne to Trepol Bay and return, especially in the summer passenger train timetable. I need to work out the times for traveling from Wadebridge to Trepol Bay (20 -30 minutes?). A timetable for Wadebridge - Newquay - Truro trains would be very useful but, I realise, a major undertaking.

There is a thaw, here, with rain and low clouds, today.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on January 01, 2015, 12:35:59 pm
I'd say 25 mins from Wadebridge to Trepol Bay and a futher 20 minutes to Newquay would be a reasonable assumption.
I'm spending the whole day working on Tepol Bay today (stopped for lunch and glue/paint drying just now). It's a lot of detailed work today so won't be much to see later but I will try to take a photo or two.
Very mild here (12 degrees) , windy and slightly damp - very overcast.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 01, 2015, 01:01:41 pm
I'd say 25 mins from Wadebridge to Trepol Bay and a further 20 minutes to Newquay would be a reasonable assumption.
I'm spending the whole day working on Tepol Bay today (stopped for lunch and glue/paint drying just now). It's a lot of detailed work today so won't be much to see later but I will try to take a photo or two.
Very mild here (12 degrees) , windy and slightly damp - very overcast.

Thanks, Martin: 25 mins from Wadebridge to Trepol Bay and a further 20 minutes to Newquay, it is. Wadebridge to Trepol Bay services would have to fit in with the Wadebridge - Newquay - Truro services which would also be complex as I'm assuming the joint SR and WR Wadebridge - Newquay - Truro (junction) line would be single track with passing loops at stations? Some Wadebridge - Trepol Bay services would go on to Newquay and some would go on to Truro? The summer timetable would be busier of course, especially at weekends, with the holidaymaker changeover day on Saturdays seeing the peak service. However, I'm assuming long distance trains to Newquay were routed via Par.

Weaver Cove would be 20 minutes from Wadebridge and only five minutes from Trepol Bay; however, it never had a regular passenger service, passengers changing at St. Issey (the station before Weaver Cove East Junction on the Wadebridge - Newquay 'mainline') where railway buses or local taxis took the few tourists on to Weaver Cove.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: jd on January 01, 2015, 01:03:12 pm
I'm looking forward to the Easter/ Summer specials. I know the Cove is more freight based but any specials being routed that way will be recorded :D.
 
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 01, 2015, 02:23:14 pm
In view of the success of the "Santa Specials", the local BR management at Wadebridge having decided to leave the temporary wooden platform near Weaver Cove in place for the already being discussed Easter and Summer specials. (Just like, later, at the wooden Boscarne Exchange Platform, at Boscarne Junction, opened in 1964, the Weaver Cove platform is provided with paraffin oil lamps for illumination.)
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: port perran on January 01, 2015, 05:25:08 pm
I'd say 25 mins from Wadebridge to Trepol Bay and a further 20 minutes to Newquay would be a reasonable assumption.
I'm spending the whole day working on Tepol Bay today (stopped for lunch and glue/paint drying just now). It's a lot of detailed work today so won't be much to see later but I will try to take a photo or two.
Very mild here (12 degrees) , windy and slightly damp - very overcast.

Thanks, Martin: 25 mins from Wadebridge to Trepol Bay and a further 20 minutes to Newquay, it is. Wadebridge to Trepol Bay services would have to fit in with the Wadebridge - Newquay - Truro services which would also be complex as I'm assuming the joint SR and WR Wadebridge - Newquay - Truro (junction) line would be single track with passing loops at stations? Some Wadebridge - Trepol Bay services would go on to Newquay and some would go on to Truro? The summer timetable would be busier of course, especially at weekends, with the holidaymaker changeover day on Saturdays seeing the peak service. However, I'm assuming long distance trains to Newquay were routed via Par.

Weaver Cove would be 20 minutes from Wadebridge and only five minutes from Trepol Bay; however, it never had a regular passenger service, passengers changing at St. Issey (the station before Weaver Cove East Junction on the Wadebridge - Newquay 'mainline') where railway buses or local taxis took the few tourists on to Weaver Cove.

Yes, Trepol Bay has a through line with passing facilities. I envisage that it will see Wadebridge to Newquay services and Wadebridge to Truro services (some of which will be via Port Perran).
Yes, trains from up-country for Newquay would normally have bee routed via Par but in Summer months I'm going to assume that on Saturdays(due to congestion on the Par to Newquay line) occasionally some (shorter) trains ran the "long way round" via Truro, Port Perran and on to Newquay.  It was , of course, also a useful diversionary route.
Trepol Bay has a very mixed past as will become apparent when you start to see a mixture of former GW and LSWR buildings emerging.  Essentially, I'm assuming it to be an LSWR station but.....the original line, down to the harbour from the Newquay direction was a former GW freight only line. Originally the two were unconnected until an agreement was reached in 1901 to construct a connecting line for passenger services.  Up until that time Trepol Bay was an LSWR terminus.
Title: Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 01, 2015, 07:14:18 pm
Thank you, Martin. I am still working on the 'back story' of the railways around Wadebridge. In my history things happened two decades' earlier and whilst the Bodmin Road to Wadebridge line was built by a GWR ally, but opened in 1867, the Wadebridge to Cant Cove (and a year later, to Penmayne) line was built by a company, backed by the Trevelvers, allied to both the LSWR and the GWR, which opened the same year.

That leaves the history of the 1893 North Cornwall Railway extension from Wadebridge to