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Title: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 12, 2011, 09:13:24 pm
The boards are completed at last. They can be seen here sporting an NGF mug :NGF:

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1311873882/gallery_7509_261_35959.jpg)

Once the boards and legs have been painted over the next three weeks, the next step is to lay out the track bed.
Here's another view
(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1311873882/gallery_7509_261_28678.jpg)
and a view of how the legs are constructed
(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1311873882/gallery_7509_261_27874.jpg)

For those that havent seen, this is the plan (albeit slightly amended since this version was posted)

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1309975593/gallery_7509_257_336622.jpg)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2011, 09:19:27 pm
Oi, Tank! When are we going to get that 'envy' button?
If there was ever a case of needing it, this is the time.
This layout is going to be bigger than my bungalow :'(
Kirky - if you can build a railway room for me in the station on the layout, I'll come and be the station master :D
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: cloughie on August 13, 2011, 07:00:14 am
kirky you filthy fellow, you cannot put naked photos up on the forum :o, even if it`s having a brew from a :NGF: mug :-[
cloughie
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Tank on August 13, 2011, 09:39:44 am
Oi, Tank!

Don't Oi me!   >:(    ;D ;D ;D

Wonderful start to the layout.  I don't envy all of that wiring though!

Thanks for showing off the mug.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 13, 2011, 10:08:31 am
Guys
I'm not doing it all by myself you know!!

This is undoubtedly a club project and we have a few blokes involved.

Cloughie: some of it is painted with only its b*m showing. A bit like that bond girl in Goldfinger.  :o

 :beers:
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 13, 2011, 10:11:57 am
   I don't envy all of that wiring though!

Tank
Its dcc. Only two wires you know!!!  ;)

 :beers:
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on August 13, 2011, 03:54:41 pm
[quote author=kirky link=topic=1671.msg16968#msg16968 date=1313226511

Cloughie: some of it is painted with only its b*m showing. A bit like that bond girl in Goldfinger.  :o

 :beers:
Kirky
[/quote]

Ah, Shirley Eaton :-* :-* (eyes glaze over and he starts to dribble)

Hey Tank. Looky here - found a use for that 'kiss' button!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 15, 2011, 07:17:59 pm
Here's a photo showing a bit more progress.(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1317518221/gallery_7509_270_33890.jpg).

You can ignore the roll of cork.We're not using that.
Hopefully some more pics next week.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: longbridge on October 15, 2011, 09:00:13 pm
Crikey that layout should keep you out of trouble for a while, great plan and benchwork :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 16, 2011, 08:29:22 am
Hi ORB
Yes, it will keep a few of us occupied for a while. Its a four year project (at the moment)

Cheers
 :beers:
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Stew2000 on October 17, 2011, 10:12:49 pm
Looks like fun. definitely one to watch :)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 26, 2011, 08:03:59 am
Hi Guys
A little bit more progress on the layout. We're not too far off finishing the track bed. (Sorry the photo is a bit blurred. Think i'll take me proper camera next time and try and get some better shots.)
(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1318606071/gallery_7509_270_69832.jpg)
The photo is taken from the north end of the layout with the fiddle yard on the left hand side. The Fiddle yard track bed is complete, along with the ramps allowing a move from low level slow line to hgh level fiddle yard and four line section at the south of the layout.
We've begun to stick down some of the plastazote underlay. That's the white stuff you can see on the raised curve in the foreground.
And somewhere on there is me  :NGaugeForum: mug.

Cheers

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bikeracer on October 26, 2011, 08:39:29 am
Hi Kirky,

I'm just about to price up the materials for my new layout so can I ask what thickness plywood you've used for the base and the track bed ?

Allan
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris on October 26, 2011, 09:32:58 am
You''ll do well to get all that done in four years! Like the look of this so far.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 26, 2011, 01:00:42 pm
Hi Bikeracer

The track bed and the base boards are made using 6mm ply. That's a nominal 6mm, in actual fact its about 5.2 mm!
The base boarsds are made using girder construction of 6mm x100mm x 1500mm lengths sandwiched between 20mm thick PAR softwood. You can see more pics and some limited description here;http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index.php?automodule=blog&req=showblog&mid=7509 (http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index.php?automodule=blog&req=showblog&mid=7509). Hope this helps

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bikeracer on October 26, 2011, 02:41:54 pm
Thanks Kirky,

Can't see your blog,so I've registered with that forum and am waiting for the OK.

I've been and priced some sheets of plywood and the local timber merchant will cut a sheet into strips and deliver for no extra charge.I'll sort out what extra timber I need as well and get it all delivered in one go.
I'm getting excited now. ;D
Hope to finish dismantling my old set up later today.

Allan
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bikeracer on October 26, 2011, 02:49:24 pm
Hi Kirky,

I've logged in okay but I can't see anything in your blog.

Allan
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 26, 2011, 04:38:56 pm
Hi Bikeracer

Sorry that you cant read the blog. (you're probably not missing much). Try this link http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/blog/kirky02 (http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/blog/kirky02)
It seems I didnt have the friendly URL box ticked.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bikeracer on October 26, 2011, 05:30:40 pm
Hi Kirky,

I think someone has stolen the contents of your blog  ;D,anyway,not to worry I think I've got the general idea.

Allan
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Lawrence on October 26, 2011, 07:59:09 pm
It's a bit funny you know, I was at Leeming for 3 years and sat my driving test in Northallerton (in the pouring rain, just when the schools were coming out for lunch  :o), damned if I can remember a railway station though  ???
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on October 26, 2011, 08:46:59 pm
It's a bit funny you know, I was at Leeming for 3 years and sat my driving test in Northallerton (in the pouring rain, just when the schools were coming out for lunch  :o), damned if I can remember a railway station though  ???

Ammunition for lots of comments there, Lawrence but................no, I couldn't :-X
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Lawrence on October 26, 2011, 09:22:05 pm
It's a bit funny you know, I was at Leeming for 3 years and sat my driving test in Northallerton (in the pouring rain, just when the schools were coming out for lunch  :o), damned if I can remember a railway station though  ???

Ammunition for lots of comments there, Lawrence but................no, I couldn't :-X

Auld age disnae come alone and fine I ken it  :D
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 26, 2011, 10:48:25 pm
Lawrence
Wikpedia says this about Northalleton: 'It is also very popular with rail enthusiasts, as the station is situated on one of the fastest parts of the East Coast Mainline, and trains pass at speeds up to 125 mph.'
You obviously weren't a ferro equinologist in your Leeming days then?
Maybe it was before 125 mph trains?
Maybe it was before 25 mph trains ? :smiley-laughing:

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on October 27, 2011, 08:05:37 am
Lawrence
Wikpedia says this about Northalleton: 'It is also very popular with rail enthusiasts, as the station is situated on one of the fastest parts of the East Coast Mainline, and trains pass at speeds up to 125 mph.'
You obviously weren't a ferro equinologist in your Leeming days then?
Maybe it was before 125 mph trains?
Maybe it was before 25 mph trains ? :smiley-laughing:

Cheers
Kirky

Lawrence still has a man with a red flag walking in front of his car ;D
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 05, 2011, 07:02:11 pm
It seems my blog has not been available when I thought it was.
If you want to bore youself silly looking at photos of the boards under construction you should now be able to read it in the blog here. http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index.php?automodule=blog&req=showblog&mid=7509. (http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index.php?automodule=blog&req=showblog&mid=7509.)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bikeracer on November 05, 2011, 08:32:06 pm
You have been a busy boy  :wave:

Allan
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Lawrence on November 05, 2011, 09:45:24 pm
Kirky - no I wasn't and probably never will be  ;)

Nobby - right, you're going to get it you are  :evil:   :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bikeracer on November 11, 2011, 06:27:54 pm
Hi Kirky,

Wondering how you're fastening the track to the foam and how you'll stick the ballast down if PVA won't work.
I'm curious because I'm thinking of using some sort of foam underlay myself.

Allan
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 11, 2011, 09:23:06 pm
Hi bikeracer
The track will be stuck down with copydex also. The ballast will then go on top of that so the PVA for the ballast will be stuck to the dried copydex, not to the foam. Having said that, I think PVA will be fine on top of the foam where the air can get to it, it's just trying to stick it to wood where there seems to be no bond because it can't dry, if you see what I mean. I've not tried to ballast directly onto it though, just onto copydexed  track, so that is speculation.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 12, 2011, 02:56:00 pm
Update

We started laying track this morning  ;D

Photos to follow.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 12, 2011, 07:10:28 pm
Here are some photos of the track going down. Not all the track bed is complete but we need to put the lower level junction down first so that we can get the main line upper level ontop of it.

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1320941755/gallery_7509_279_735965.jpg)
lower level lines into ramps

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1320941755/gallery_7509_279_30498.jpg)
The same section of track from the operators side

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1320941755/gallery_7509_279_239568.jpg)
The boards are split in half to enable the tubby memmbers of aour club to access the track sections they are working on. The lower level cross over section goes in glued down with copydex and held down with map pins.

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1320941755/gallery_7509_279_1036971.jpg)
Obligatory mug shot.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: portland-docks on November 12, 2011, 07:45:19 pm
ahem kirky, if you dont mind me saying...i work for network rail in the plant department which involves generators/ point heating etc, and one of our sites is northallerton...please dont forget our point heating on the points please :P

if you need to know where the trainsformers are i will let you know lol, including the kiosk, then i know someones looking after our patch while we aint there haha
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 12, 2011, 07:48:23 pm
ahem kirky, if you dont mind me saying...i work for network rail in the plant department which involves generators/ point heating etc, and one of our sites is northallerton...please dont forget our point heating on the points please :P

if you need to know where the trainsformers are i will let you know lol, including the kiosk, then i know someones looking after our patch while we aint there haha

Hi PD
Nice one, any extra information is absolutely completely useful. Not that I know what point heating looks like......photos??

cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: portland-docks on November 12, 2011, 08:03:03 pm
i will try get some photos when im back at work on monday,

but put simply, point heaint are heating element strips that fit to the outside of the rails and the inside of the switch rails (the parts that move), so in cold weather the temperature probes (hot probe underneath where the strips are, cold probe off on an unheated part of track) detects the cold temperature, turns it on and heats up the points, and stops when it reaches a certain temperature.

a precipitation sensor also sits ontop of the supply kiosk so when it rains, it kicks in. but you would have a supply kiosk, and down northallerton, you have two transformers for each set of points. send me the track plan, and i can put on where the kiosks and transformers are (you have no chance of putting on strips lol)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 12, 2011, 08:13:42 pm
i will try get some photos when im back at work on monday,

but put simply, point heaint are heating element strips that fit to the outside of the rails and the inside of the switch rails (the parts that move), so in cold weather the temperature probes (hot probe underneath where the strips are, cold probe off on an unheated part of track) detects the cold temperature, turns it on and heats up the points, and stops when it reaches a certain temperature.

a precipitation sensor also sits ontop of the supply kiosk so when it rains, it kicks in. but you would have a supply kiosk, and down northallerton, you have two transformers for each set of points. send me the track plan, and i can put on where the kiosks and transformers are (you have no chance of putting on strips lol)
H PD
The track plan is at the beginning of the thread. Or do you want the anyrail original?

I think it might be a challenge to try and put them strips on the blades just to show it can be done  :smiley-laughing:
Cheers
K
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: portland-docks on November 12, 2011, 08:33:04 pm
whichever format i can use to open it up in paint just to mark where transformers go etc...i will upload a picture of point heating on here for you

and i thought northallerton already was a challenge lol
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 12, 2011, 08:49:56 pm
whichever format i can use to open it up in paint just to mark where transformers go etc...i will upload a picture of point heating on here for you

and i thought northallerton already was a challenge lol

Then right click on the image of the plan and save (assuming you are using windoze)

It is a challenge - a big scary challenge - every time I walk into the club and see it stretching out in front of me it scares the sh*t out of me. Luckily there a few of us tackling it.

cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Tank on November 12, 2011, 10:10:38 pm
That looks great!  I like the shot of the mug to, and good to see some lovely DeWalt power tools. :thumbsup:  My favourite. ;D
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 13, 2011, 09:54:06 am
That looks great!  I like the shot of the mug to, and good to see some lovely DeWalt power tools. :thumbsup:  My favourite. ;D


Cheers Tank.  :thumbsup:

Dewalt power tools: after years spending small amounts on power tools only to burn them out after five minutes... I took the plunge and spent a small fortune on power tools of the yellow variety - they haven't burnt out.......yet ???

Portland:
having had your kind offer of telling me where the transformers are cited, I thought I better take another look at the layout plan that was posted six months ago.... here is an updated version, with some changes.

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1321166547/gallery_7509_279_1660682.jpg)

Cheers
kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: polo2k on November 13, 2011, 10:33:38 am
Cor Blimey!

Hats off to that man!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Tank on November 13, 2011, 10:34:36 am
Same here.  When I bought my first lot of power tools they were all Ferm (the cheap ones from Screwfix), but most of them just didn't last.  It's worth paying more for quality (although I buy mine new on eBay, as they're far cheaper)!!!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 13, 2011, 12:27:27 pm
Cor Blimey!

Hats off to that man!

cheers mate.... but its men - as Dave mentioned the other day 'there's no I in team'

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: polo2k on November 13, 2011, 01:03:08 pm
Cor Blimey!

Hats off to that man!


cheers mate.... but its men - as Dave mentioned the other day 'there's no I in team'

Kirky



Really?

(http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/092010/theres_i_in_team.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 13, 2011, 01:17:46 pm
Cor Blimey!

Hats off to that man!


cheers mate.... but its men - as Dave mentioned the other day 'there's no I in team'

Kirky



Really?

([url]http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/092010/theres_i_in_team.jpg[/url])

 ;D


ROFL ;D

I'll need that when they don't do as they're told!!

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 20, 2011, 01:53:06 pm
Update

We have been finishing off and painting the track bed. The track bed has just about been completed. Plastazote has been applied to all track areas bar the siding off the southbound platform. The track bed has begun to be manufactured for the siding and will be completed this week.
Track continues to be laid in various parts of the layout.
Some track lengths have had droppers soldered to them in the middle of the length under the rails. These have been done by John P and Paul and they are good strong joints. One piece of track has been laid like this and the effect is very good, no visible solder joints. We have taken the decision to solder droppers to every separate piece of track, which might be over engineering the wiring but we feel that its very much a belt and braces approach.

The paint we used for the track bed is just an undercoat which seems to have gone on well.
(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1321166547/gallery_7509_280_927690.jpg)
(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1321166547/gallery_7509_280_181784.jpg)

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1321166547/gallery_7509_280_622348.jpg)
Thios is looking south at ramps to and from the slow lines.

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1321166547/gallery_7509_280_739960.jpg)
And looking in the other direction with the station area on the high level lines.

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1321166547/gallery_7509_280_97051.jpg)
And from the south end looking north.

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1321166547/gallery_7509_280_55887.jpg)
(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1309975593/gallery_7509_257_1761620.jpg)
These two photographs showing the real railway and its modelled counterpart.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: polo2k on November 20, 2011, 02:38:18 pm
looking good! nice to see careful track laying (i.e. the straight centre section on the S bend.)

do you have a deadline yet?
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 20, 2011, 03:58:55 pm
Hi Polo2k
No specific deadline as such. We are about six months in to what is supposed to bne a four year project. Having said that we would like to see something sunning in a couple of months. Track laying will start in earnest in the next week.

That S bend is only down tempoarily, as you can see on the other bit of trtack. However, we are pleased with the results so far.

cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on November 20, 2011, 05:52:04 pm
Hi Polo2k
No specific deadline as such. We are about six months in to what is supposed to bne a four year project. Having said that we would like to see something sunning in a couple of months.
cheers
Kirky

Something sunning? In  the middle of winter? Methinks Kirky has had the wrong mushrooms for breakfast :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 20, 2011, 05:59:49 pm
Hi Polo2k
No specific deadline as such. We are about six months in to what is supposed to bne a four year project. Having said that we would like to see something sunning in a couple of months.
cheers
Kirky

Something sunning? In  the middle of winter? Methinks Kirky has had the wrong mushrooms for breakfast :smiley-laughing:

Nobby, you've obviously never experienced a Teesside winter - if we can see more than ten feet in front of us, we think its summer :o

Its supposed to say 'running'.

Mushrooms were splendid tho - wibble wibble  :beers:

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 27, 2011, 08:01:06 pm
Hi Guys
A few more photos to have a look at. And at the bottom of this post, a vid of the first trial running of a train up the slow incline.

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1322338186/gallery_7509_285_545641.jpg)

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1322338186/gallery_7509_285_612463.jpg)

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1322338186/gallery_7509_285_1244639.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYtKM3Pn1ys

We also tested the bank with a Farish 66 and some ad hoc coaches we had lying about, but forgot to film it. doh!

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: OwL on November 28, 2011, 11:42:55 am
Well done so far! Im glad your test run went well :thumbsup: keep em coming :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Flakmunky on December 01, 2011, 07:26:13 pm
Hi,

Northallerton is just down the road from me... I've looked but can't see, what era are you modelling?

Looks great. Wish I had the space for something like this! You'll need binoculars to see the other end!

fM
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on December 01, 2011, 09:39:49 pm
Hi,

Northallerton is just down the road from me... I've looked but can't see, what era are you modelling?

Looks great. Wish I had the space for something like this! You'll need binoculars to see the other end!

fM

Hi Flakmunky

Where do you live fM?
You are right, I haven't actually said what the concept is etc..... that's because this thread started life on another forum but this thread is much more acttive than that one, however, I do update it and that forum hosts my blog. But  :NGF: rools IMHO.

Anyway, I digress; to answer your question here is the original concept proposal (which is on the blog, but not on this thread)


So, how have we done so far?. Well we're pretty much sticking to plan, except we now have 300 mm curves in some places, but only in non viewing areas.
hope this answers your question.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Flakmunky on December 01, 2011, 10:03:11 pm
Hi,

I'm in Middleton St. George, Darlington...

We go to Northallerton quite often, along the A167. I've been trying to see where the A167 level crossing is on your plan... And where B&Q is!

Have sat at the A167 crossing whilst *very* long trains have gone by!

Regards,

fM
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Mustermark on December 01, 2011, 10:04:45 pm
Very impressive... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on December 01, 2011, 10:25:49 pm
Hi,

I'm in Middleton St. George, Darlington...

We go to Northallerton quite often, along the A167. I've been trying to see where the A167 level crossing is on your plan... And where B&Q is!

Have sat at the A167 crossing whilst *very* long trains have gone by!

Regards,

fM



Hi

On the layout plan, the A167 is the road that goes underneath both platforms (yellow on the plan) and has the pinkish block of flats on the left. In reality I think only one platform goes over the A167, but this is part of the compromise. I have said elsewhere, I think, that if we were to fit the junction in to scale, the model would be twice as long and we would need it to be 20 feet deep, instead of the five foot depth we have. But that's the nature of model railways for you.

As an a aside, I was having a laugh with one of our O gauge modellers tonight. On their new layout, the platform length is probably shorter than the the platform length on Northallerton!

Cheers
Kirky


(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1321166547/gallery_7509_279_1660682.jpg)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Flakmunky on December 02, 2011, 07:27:09 am
Right, got you. Just looked at Google Maps... Couldn't figure out your plan as I didn't realise the A167 crosses the railway again! Doh!

Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on December 05, 2011, 08:32:07 pm
A few more photos showing a little more progress.These mainly show the method we are using for board connections; namely small copper clad strips cut to sleeper sizeish (they are actually overly wide.) There is one large piece of copper clad glued onto the wooden track bed and the n the smaller sleeper sized pieces glued to the thick pieces with superglue. This gives the correct height when the sleepers and the plastazote underlay are taken into account. Of course on the non-scenic areas we have not used the sleeper sized copper clad, rather a thicker piece.

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1322662900/gallery_7509_291_133415.jpg)

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1322662900/gallery_7509_291_354435.jpg)

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1322662900/gallery_7509_291_1117725.jpg)

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1322662900/gallery_7509_291_736091.jpg)

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1322662900/gallery_7509_291_355896.jpg)

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1322662900/gallery_7509_291_638936.jpg)

I'll try and get some better photos next week, with a little less clutter on the layout. :camera:

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on December 05, 2011, 08:39:24 pm
Very neat trackwork, Kirky :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on December 05, 2011, 08:55:10 pm
Very neat trackwork, Kirky :thumbsup:
Cheers Nobby, I was pleased with it too. I have to confess tho', it wasn't me that laid most of what you see in the photos.

However, more impressively I think are the dropper connections which are in the first two photos. They are soldered on the underside of the rails making them almost invisible. Believe it or not, that stretch of track has three pairs of connections! Very neat. And again I can't take responsibility

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Southernboy on December 08, 2011, 09:03:13 pm
This is a layout I seem to have missed, but one to keep an eye on in future: I love the grand scale of it :)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: 4x2 on December 08, 2011, 09:17:36 pm
This is a layout I seem to have missed, but one to keep an eye on in future: I love the grand scale of it :)
I could say the same about your layout ! - I followed the link on your post. what an amazing layout you're building !  :thumbsup:
Sorry i hadn't noticed it before  :-[  Can only hope i can do something half as good !  ;D
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on December 09, 2011, 04:34:17 pm
This is a layout I seem to have missed, but one to keep an eye on in future: I love the grand scale of it :)
I could say the same about your layout ! - I followed the link on your post. what an amazing layout you're building !  :thumbsup:
Sorry i hadn't noticed it before  :-[  Can only hope i can do something half as good !  ;D

And me too! Just don't know how I've missed this.

Amazing stuff..... I'm popping off to the Frankland thread to write some comments...

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: portland-docks on December 09, 2011, 05:36:14 pm
hey mate, i woulda got some fotos for you from the actual site since i have trackside access, but i found out if i did i could get sacked, why i dont know!

but the main thing i think you need to add if you are to make it modern era, is the north side platform, at the north end where the road comes up to the car park, just as it gets to track level and turns right into the car park, there is a gate on the left hand side. that leads trackside. straight through that gate is a small compound with what looks like a container. this is the standby signalling generator. when the mains fails, this powers the 650v signals. might be quite an important feature on a modern era layout.

point heating kiosks on the other hand, there are bloody loads of them haha
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on December 09, 2011, 05:52:36 pm
hey mate, i woulda got some fotos for you from the actual site since i have trackside access, but i found out if i did i could get sacked, why i dont know!

but the main thing i think you need to add if you are to make it modern era, is the north side platform, at the north end where the road comes up to the car park, just as it gets to track level and turns right into the car park, there is a gate on the left hand side. that leads trackside. straight through that gate is a small compound with what looks like a container. this is the standby signalling generator. when the mains fails, this powers the 650v signals. might be quite an important feature on a modern era layout.

point heating kiosks on the other hand, there are bloody loads of them haha


Do you mean this?
(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1322662900/gallery_7509_260_128046.jpg)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: portland-docks on December 09, 2011, 05:54:34 pm
thats it, and the green container is our generator :)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on December 11, 2011, 06:14:29 pm
thats it, and the green container is our generator :)


Cheers Portland
Here's  a better shot..... and you'll be pleased to know its definitely been added to the construction list  ;D
(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1323621360/gallery_7509_260_129138.jpg)

Is it about the length of a 20ft container? I think I might have c rail unmade one somewhere that I could have a stab at bashing.

Cheers
K



Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: portland-docks on December 11, 2011, 07:08:26 pm
yeh i think so, it has 2 doors on, the left door containing the generator, the right door leads to the control room.

im actually down northallerton tomorrow, down longlands (the long track the runs track side along the slow goods leading down the incline and loop. got point heating to doooo
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on December 27, 2011, 07:15:50 pm
Hi Guys
A little bit of an update, just to show thnat we are laying track, albeit fairly slowly at the moment.

This shows the layout from the north end, looking south.

(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1324634492/gallery_7509_291_914399.jpg)

And this is the bit of track which has been laid today - fiddle yard centre running lines:
(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1324634492/gallery_7509_291_1042338.jpg)

and from the other end:
(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1324634492/gallery_7509_291_793033.jpg)

There are a pair of points at both ends, with the length being 2 and half boards long, so about twelve feet for that section.

The next two boards will complete the running lines throiugh the fiddle yard. We only then have to connect up to the as yet unlaid main lines on the scenic side and we can play with trains ;D

One dilemma we have; we were planning to cut the tracks bewteen board joints using a dremel and cutting disc. personally, I'm not convinced it cuts thinnly enoiugh. Any other ideas would be appreciated.

Cheers
kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Oldman on December 27, 2011, 07:32:59 pm
Another option to the Dremel may be a Razor Saw
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1095446&_requestid=3375745 (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1095446&_requestid=3375745)
probably find one cheaper if you hunt around.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: polo2k on December 27, 2011, 10:40:27 pm
A few thoughts in no particular order:
- Keep going, it looks great so far!
- if the gap is bigger than you like then you could consider it an expansion gap
- Dremel make a 90degree adaptor for a proper vertical cut.
- I used a 1:1 hacksaw and despite the larger than ideal gap its fine
- if you really want smaller gaps then see if its possible to shim the boards apart by the width of the blade minus the ideal gap, it will close by the thickness of the shim when removed

oh and:
This is the Gap from a junior hacksaw (painfully slow though!)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c171/polo2k/Models/YVR/track%20laying/merced%20falls/DSCF1278.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c171/polo2k/Models/YVR/track%20laying/merced%20falls/DSCF1280.jpg)

This is the gap from a full size hacksaw (32 TPI blade I think)

 (http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c171/polo2k/Models/YVR/track%20laying/El%20Portal/pt%202/?action=view&current=DSCF1304.mp4)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Tank on December 27, 2011, 10:44:09 pm
Looks good to me. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: grid078 on December 27, 2011, 10:53:01 pm
Completely agree with Polo2k`s suggestions here, the only thing i would throw in as a word of caution though is, if you make the gap too small they can expand in exhibition halls and cause all sorts of problems with the electrics, mainly "shorts", fortunately our gaps on saneham tey are rather on the large side so we`ve never experienced this problem, but i have heard and witnessed layout operators trying to locate a short on a track join.

 Just my two penneth worth.

  Stu
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on December 28, 2011, 07:45:21 am
Hi Guys
Thank for the suggestions. I was thinking a razor saw might be better than the dremel discs.

The problem with the discs seems to be two fold. firstly, if we use a large disc, its difficult to get it to sit square on the spindle, so this has the effect of the disc wobbling as it spins, thus creating a large gap. Secondly, if we use a small disc, the dremel doesn't6 allow us to get close enough to the board to cut at right angles, and therefore we end up with an angled cut.
Polo: I don't think I can shim all the boards apart, we've already soldered down in parts, although that might be possible for some areas, like on the scenic side, so thanks for that idea.

So, does anybody know how thin the thinnest saw is that is available?

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: polo2k on December 28, 2011, 08:30:54 am
Secondly, if we use a small disc, the dremel doesn't6 allow us to get close enough to the board to cut at right angles, and therefore we end up with an angled cut.



http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-575-Right-Attachment-Rotary/dp/B00005AXI0 (http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-575-Right-Attachment-Rotary/dp/B00005AXI0)

Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Flakmunky on December 29, 2011, 07:40:59 am
Hey Kirky,


- if you really want smaller gaps then see if its possible to shim the boards apart by the width of the blade minus the ideal gap, it will close by the thickness of the shim when removed



This is the method I used. My gap is quite small indeed. With my layout the detachable board is a return loop so electrically I need a gap but sometimes it requires a little fine adjustment as if the boards aren't entirely level the gap can close up. To this end I had to file the rails down a little.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa203/Flakmunky_photos/Layout%20Album/P1010418.jpg)

Over this joint, my stock bounces less than over my double slip!


Secondly, if we use a small disc, the dremel doesn't6 allow us to get close enough to the board to cut at right angles, and therefore we end up with an angled cut.



I too worried about this but then came to question whether this was / is really a problem? I know aesthetically you might want a square cut, but functionally I couldn't see how it would make any difference and once ballasted would be nigh on invisible. If anything, it might even be better?!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on December 30, 2011, 09:12:10 am

[url]http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-575-Right-Attachment-Rotary/dp/B00005AXI0[/url] ([url]http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-575-Right-Attachment-Rotary/dp/B00005AXI0[/url])



Thanks for that Polo, one is now winging its way to Teesside from Amazonland.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: polo2k on December 30, 2011, 06:36:26 pm
look forward to seeing how you get on :)

Dont forget specs of some kind, the disc will be at an unfamiliar angle so you will be more likely to shatter one or 2
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 03, 2012, 09:41:52 pm
Hi guys
A few more photos to share with you all, showing the progress in the fiddle yard.


This is the middle section between the two sets of fiddle yards (on the plan, the red/blue fiddle yard and the pink/green fiddle yard which you can just make out in the corner of the photo, although it is posted earlier in the thread). These points are effectively the entrances/exits to the fiddle yards from the main through centre running lines. 
(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1325455802/gallery_7509_295_1052299.jpg)

The next shows the south end curves of the four tracks (there being only two on the upper level at the north end).
(http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/uploads/1325455802/gallery_7509_295_132822.jpg)

The inside radius is about 15 inches. I tried something new when forming these curves and I was wondering what others do. This is what I did: where sections were to be joined on the curve, instead of curving and then cutting to fit the curve, I soldered two lengths of track together before bending. With one end firmly secured, I then bent round the sections of track as if it were one piece. This has the effect of avoiding kinky joins on the curves, but wth the disadvatage of missing a large section of sleepers, as can be seen in the photo. This doesn't matter for the fiddle yard of courrse. Just wondered how others form curves when you need more than one piece of track?

Cheers
kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Southernboy on January 03, 2012, 10:07:29 pm
Hello Kirky,

For joining curved track (or straight to curved) I read about the following method which I've used and am happy with:

Take your two lengths of track.
For one of them cut the rail on one side (say) an inch longer, and the rail on the other side an inch shorter.
For the other section of track do the same, but cut the rails in the opposite fashion to above.
You then thread the two sections of track together.
For one section you're threading the left hand rail through the chairs of the opposite section. And for the other section you're threading the right hand rail through the sleepers of the other section.
You need to cut the sleeper/chair bases accordingly (ie. cut the left and right sections short, and have a middle section of sleepers/chairs to allow you to get the rail-joiners in place) - but when it's all pushed together you don't get any gaps in the sleepers and you do get a robust and reliable curve.

I hope my description makes sense!

Nice work by the way - I am following - just nothing constructive or of interest to add :)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Cimmerian on January 05, 2012, 08:20:16 pm
The railway is looking really good, however...I am a little concerned about the lack of  :NGF: mug. :)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Sprintex on January 05, 2012, 11:06:07 pm
For joining curved track (or straight to curved) I read about the following method which I've used and am happy with:

Take your two lengths of track.
For one of them cut the rail on one side (say) an inch longer, and the rail on the other side an inch shorter.
For the other section of track do the same, but cut the rails in the opposite fashion to above.
You then thread the two sections of track together.
For one section you're threading the left hand rail through the chairs of the opposite section. And for the other section you're threading the right hand rail through the sleepers of the other section.
You need to cut the sleeper/chair bases accordingly (ie. cut the left and right sections short, and have a middle section of sleepers/chairs to allow you to get the rail-joiners in place) - but when it's all pushed together you don't get any gaps in the sleepers and you do get a robust and reliable curve.

I hope my description makes sense!

Nice work by the way - I am following - just nothing constructive or of interest to add :)

Not sure that would work with Code 55 track given it is embedded in the plastic base  ;)


Paul
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Southernboy on January 05, 2012, 11:43:37 pm
Thanks Sprintex,

"  Not sure that would work with Code 55 track given it is embedded in the plastic base  ;)  "

Well it worked for me and others, so I'd be interested to know what you experienced to the contrary?

Maybe there's something I did differently to the way you did it??

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Sprintex on January 07, 2012, 02:37:42 pm
Wasn't intended as a criticism Mark, just that I'd have thought the rail being embedded into the plastic (as opposed to just retained in chairs like code 80) would have caused a problem getting the adjoining rail threaded in? Obviously not if you have done exactly that, well done  :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Southernboy on January 07, 2012, 02:52:18 pm
Hello Paul,

Sorry, didn't intend my post to sound negative - I was just curious (as always!) - but in retrospect didn't word my reply as well as I could :)

Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Sprintex on January 07, 2012, 03:25:10 pm
LOL, I thought the same about MY post  ;D

Easily done on forums, the way things read to others isn't necessarily the way the poster meant it to sound  ;)


Paul
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 08, 2012, 05:58:23 pm
Hi Sprintex and Southernboy

I've had a go at splicing two pieces of track together. here are the photos (new album feature used, so this has an added interest to me at least, to see if they work)

two bits of track, one concrete, one wooden, just to show up the two bits
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=15)

The next one shows the two bits cut away and the sleepers left in place
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=17)

And then the pieces pushed together. This is where it is a bit of a disappointment to me, or I have not done it correctly. Whichever way I tried to bend the two bits together,I end up with an unacceptable gap, but also with a kink, which I didn't get with the soldered rails method. I must be doing something wrong, maybe not enough sleepers shared between the two pieces?
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=19)

Any further thoughts anyone??

Kirky

Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bikeracer on January 08, 2012, 06:44:36 pm
I think your result is inevitable just relying on the fishplates to keep it all lined up,what was wrong with soldering the fishplates on like you were doing ?

If you turn the track over and cut the plastic out that separates the sleepers every two or three sleepers a couple of times each side of the join,you can slide the blocks of sleepers away from the joint,make the joint and then slide the sleepers back again.

I soldered one of my curves direct onto the toe of a turnout so the curve would make a smooth entry.

Allan
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Southernboy on January 08, 2012, 07:38:37 pm
That's strange, it worked ok for me.

Having said that, I'd usually have the track held to the shape of the curve I want with pins or screws (and then when happy with alignment, glue it down, keeping the pins/screws in place until the glue was dry).

If you just bend Code 55 Flexitrack by hand, it is better at holding the curve you want than code 80, but still has a small degree of 'spring-back' - at least in my experience.

One other thing. Did you know you're only supposed to bend Flexitrack in one direction? Underneath the track, there's an occasional small arrow, and you're supposed to bend the track in that direction only. I had some problems with track 'arching' into the air when I tried to bend it - and after days of head-scratching, came across that answer by total coincidence. I'm not saying that's what's happening here - just thought I'd drop it into the equation.

Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Mustermark on January 08, 2012, 08:43:15 pm
One other thing. Did you know you're only supposed to bend Flexitrack in one direction? Underneath the track, there's an occasional small arrow, and you're supposed to bend the track in that direction only.

I did not know that!  I haven't actually noticed a problem but that is a very useful tip for future track laying... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: polo2k on January 08, 2012, 08:48:01 pm

[url]http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-575-Right-Attachment-Rotary/dp/B00005AXI0[/url] ([url]http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-575-Right-Attachment-Rotary/dp/B00005AXI0[/url])



Thanks for that Polo, one is now winging its way to Teesside from Amazonland.

Cheers
Kirky


Have you recieved this yet? whats it like?
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 08, 2012, 09:06:02 pm
I think your result is inevitable just relying on the fishplates to keep it all lined up,what was wrong with soldering the fishplates on like you were doing ?

Allan


Nothing wrong with the fish plates, I just wondered what other people did.

That's strange, it worked ok for me.

Having said that, I'd usually have the track held to the shape of the curve I want with pins or screws (and then when happy with alignment, glue it down, keeping the pins/screws in place until the glue was dry).

If you just bend Code 55 Flexitrack by hand, it is better at holding the curve you want than code 80, but still has a small degree of 'spring-back' - at least in my experience.

One other thing. Did you know you're only supposed to bend Flexitrack in one direction? Underneath the track, there's an occasional small arrow, and you're supposed to bend the track in that direction only. I had some problems with track 'arching' into the air when I tried to bend it - and after days of head-scratching, came across that answer by total coincidence. I'm not saying that's what's happening here - just thought I'd drop it into the equation.



I knew about bending one way only, and I wondered whether it might make a difference if the sleepers were glued down. I think that is probably the issue. As you can see from the phiotos, this my effort was on the work bench. As it happens none of the curves except one will need this kind of attention. This is one that we have had some problems with, and I think we might try and glue down the sleepers first.
I'll report back in due course, hopefully with photos if I remember.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 08, 2012, 09:08:13 pm

[url]http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-575-Right-Attachment-Rotary/dp/B00005AXI0[/url] ([url]http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-575-Right-Attachment-Rotary/dp/B00005AXI0[/url])



Thanks for that Polo, one is now winging its way to Teesside from Amazonland.

Cheers
Kirky


Have you recieved this yet? whats it like?



It indeed has arrived.
I'm impressed. It means I can use a small disc and thus it doesn't wobble like a larger disc and create a bigger cut  I'll try and get some photos on Tuesday.

cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: polo2k on January 08, 2012, 10:37:47 pm
please do
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bikeracer on January 09, 2012, 03:15:35 pm
All this about flexitrack only bending one way is a fallacy,but don't take my word for it,do what I did and phone the technical dept. at Peco.

Allan
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Fratton on January 09, 2012, 04:04:54 pm
ive just had a great 15 minute read of this thread, some fantastic trackwork there will be following this one with interest, love the long run distance and a nice long platform :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 09, 2012, 05:31:23 pm
ive just had a great 15 minute read of this thread, some fantastic trackwork there will be following this one with interest, love the long run distance and a nice long platform :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Cheers Fratton,
I'm not sure the platforms are really long enough, basically they are limited to about five foot each. Yes we can fit an Electra in and the passegers wont have to walk on the ballast :D, but really there should be a much greater amount of platform and they should be much more oblique (is that the right word?) but like nearly all model railways, this is one of the compromises.

Cheers again
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Flakmunky on January 10, 2012, 11:50:10 am
All this about flexitrack only bending one way is a fallacy,but don't take my word for it,do what I did and phone the technical dept. at Peco.

Allan

I can only speak for Code 55 flexitrack here, which has an arrow emobossed on the underside every 12" or so and on the little paper insert between the rails it states 'Track is flexible in both directions but for best results curve with the arrows pointing inwards'. In addition, there is a gap between the sleepers on the underside every 4th sleeper, presumably to allow for contraction.

I would imagine this is the source of the 'fallacy'...

As for bending it, I found it best to bend it a little at a time and to start in the middle, then 'massage' the bend towards the end. It will end up 'S' shaped until the inner track starts sliding through the sleepers. Then you can massage the bend through to the end...
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Southernboy on January 10, 2012, 09:52:20 pm
Top marks from me too - especially the handrails, they must have been very fiddly, especially getting the angles right. Did you guestimate them? Or did you have some fiendishly clever technique?
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 12, 2012, 06:19:33 pm

[url]http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-575-Right-Attachment-Rotary/dp/B00005AXI0[/url] ([url]http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-575-Right-Attachment-Rotary/dp/B00005AXI0[/url])



Thanks for that Polo, one is now winging its way to Teesside from Amazonland.

Cheers
Kirky


Have you recieved this yet? whats it like?



As promised, here is a picture of said appliance in action;
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/thumb_214.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=214)
and this
(http://[url=http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=216][img]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/thumb_216.JPG)[/url]

And one not very good photo of the section laid on the front of the layout.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/thumb_218.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=218)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 12, 2012, 06:24:25 pm
Top marks from me too - especially the handrails, they must have been very fiddly, especially getting the angles right. Did you guestimate them? Or did you have some fiendishly clever technique?

Sorry Southernboy, you've confused me. Easily done I know. I don't know what you are referring to when you say 'handrails', what handrails?

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: point blank on January 12, 2012, 07:32:17 pm

Sorry Southernboy, you've confused me. Easily done I know. I don't know what you are referring to when you say 'handrails', what handrails?

Cheers
Kirky
My guess is that it was refering to the subway handrails in the Reading General thread but posted here by mistake.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on February 03, 2012, 04:38:31 pm
A bit of an update:

Hee are one or two photos of the scenic area of the layout. Completed so far is the track work on the slow lines and the through main line section, with only the connecting line to install. Hopefully that may be completed in the next week. Then the wiring begins.....
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=329)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=331)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=332)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=334)

sorry if they aren't great photos, but my phone was being tempramental and it was very cold the other night.

The thorny topic of how to cut the track at the board joints has finally been addressed and a solution found.
Contrary to previous postings we have decided to use this approach
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=335)
... a zazor saw.

We cut a rail using the cutting disc (pictured elsewhere) and compared the cut using the razor saw. As you can see in this next picture, the nearest rail is the one cut with a cutting disc, whereas the next three rail are all cut believe it or not - done with the razor saw. Its a Zona saw - someone here suggested it, I think - it was only 4.50 and has a kerf of 0.2 mm. Very thin.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=337)
The photo probably exagerates the difference between the cuts, but you can certainly tell. Don't worry though, this is all in the fiddle yard and won't matter in terms of look.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Tank on February 03, 2012, 04:59:08 pm
It looks fantastic Kirky. The camera always makes things look exagerated with such close up shots.  The track is looking great. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 07, 2012, 10:11:41 pm
Hi Guys
Its been a while since the last update. Sorry.
Ive been busy working on the layout and one or two othewr things have cropped up in the meantime, so its been difficult to find time to post.
Nevertheles, the bus wiring is in and all the droppers for the existing loops are installed. Last week we had our first propper running right the way round. We currently have three of the four circuits installed, so we can have three thrains running continuously. the fourth will probably be finished next week, The the only track to istall will be the fiddle yard loops.
Here are some photos, and hopefully later (if I can remember how) I'll upload some video.

Cheers
Kirky
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Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 07, 2012, 10:47:50 pm
Hopefully this will show a video of Northallerton with a working test train, a NMT, no less..... well it is testing  ;D
(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

Thats actually four trains on three tracks. All dcc of course. (Please ignore the fact the load haul 60 has lost its buffer beam)

Hope you like it.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: portland-docks on May 07, 2012, 11:11:01 pm
Your load haul lost its buffer beam :p
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 07, 2012, 11:15:03 pm
And here is another one
(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

The NMT falls off on the point at the end of the video, due to a dodgy coupling on a coach. Now awaiting repair.

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on May 08, 2012, 08:01:22 am
Very impressive - just as well the commentary was cut off at the end :evil:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 08, 2012, 12:00:39 pm
Very impressive - just as well the commentary was cut off at the end :evil:
I should really listen to videos before I post them shouldn't I.
Needless to say, its not my voice what you can hear.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: swisstony on May 08, 2012, 01:10:15 pm
Excellent Video, what words did we miss on the audio cut off ;) ???
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on May 08, 2012, 01:42:34 pm
Just me being stoopid (again ::))
At the derailment we hear "Aw.........................................."
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 08, 2012, 06:33:59 pm
Just me being stoopid (again ::))
At the derailment we hear "Aw.........................................."

Dave says: 'Aw............................................ bother!'                                          of course.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Donkey on May 08, 2012, 07:13:23 pm
Thanks for the update Kirky. Great to see the progress being made on this great looking layout  :thumbsup:

Marty
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 08, 2012, 09:38:28 pm
Just another quick update.
Tonight we have connected up all four lines (temporarily), which means that we can have four trains running right round, which we tested tonight. If I have time on Thursday I'll try and take a few more shots with trains going on all four lines.
The fiddle yard really only has the running lines in at the moment, although, as I think you can see on one of the recent photos, there is one end of the fiddle yard points in. We will only be adding little bits at a time,  of the rest of the fiddle yard, as and when we can afford to. With another thirty odd points to buy, you can see it is going to be costly.

Thanks for looking.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 10, 2012, 10:28:27 pm
And just another video, this time showing the Grand Central HST coming up the link line.
Please notice the mugshot at the beginning of the video.

(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Pengi on May 11, 2012, 06:23:33 am
This is mightily impressive! The Grand Central HST looks good too.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on May 11, 2012, 04:27:16 pm
I must just say how much I have enjoyed reading this thread. It is a magnificent layout representing an area I have sped through many times on my way to D'ton. I just didn't realise so much was going on there. I am a novice as far as modelling is concerned and have a small roundy roundy layout that I want to add an extra board on to. I was wondering how to make it detachable. Your copper board tutorial has shown me the way. Many thanks. Do you use board joiners of some sort to keep them aligned?
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Sprintex on May 11, 2012, 04:38:13 pm
'Tis a fantastic layout  :thumbsup:

Don't envy the work involved even though it's a team effort, bad enough having the workload I have with my 'little' 12'x3'  ::)

Great work so far though by all involved, looking forward to seeing it finished at an exhibition sometime in the future  :)

Malc, regarding joining boards have a look at THIS POST (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=5448.msg60810#msg60810) which gives another method of fixing/aligning track at board-edges and also has a link to suitable dowels for making sure the boards line up every time  :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 11, 2012, 05:16:51 pm
I must just say how much I have enjoyed reading this thread. It is a magnificent layout representing an area I have sped through many times on my way to D'ton. I just didn't realise so much was going on there. I am a novice as far as modelling is concerned and have a small roundy roundy layout that I want to add an extra board on to. I was wondering how to make it detachable. Your copper board tutorial has shown me the way. Many thanks. Do you use board joiners of some sort to keep them aligned?
Hi Malcolm
Thanks for your kind comments.
We do use dowels, brass dowels to align the boards, but I would say much more crucial than that is having boards that are straight and square. Straightness and squareness makes the boards line up easily. This is achieved by using good grade ply which is all cut cut on a machine, and a jig used to assemble the girders. A different jig was used to put the girders together. There is still some movement  but it has been minimised.
We only use two m10 bolts between two boards, though we could use a third in the middle if needs be. So far, the problems have been more to do with poor track laying/ soldering than anything else. But mainly we've been pleased with the results.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 11, 2012, 05:26:26 pm
'Tis a fantastic layout  :thumbsup:

Don't envy the work involved even though it's a team effort, bad enough having the workload I have with my 'little' 12'x3'  ::)

Great work so far though by all involved, looking forward to seeing it finished at an exhibition sometime in the future  :)

Malc, regarding joining boards have a look at THIS POST ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=5448.msg60810#msg60810[/url]) which gives another method of fixing/aligning track at board-edges and also has a link to suitable dowels for making sure the boards line up every time  :thumbsup:

Paul

Hi Paul
It's the building of a project like his that I find highly rewarding. It's great working with others, when you look at it as time well spent. That's actually something I have learned since the project started. Somewhere in he thread i thinkive said that I spent a lot of my summer holiday putting he boards together. I have to say that that was the most unfulfilling part of the project because I was working by myself. Working (if you can call it work?) in a team is so much more fun, for me at least.
We hope to be exhibiting at our own show in August 2013, although it will be on show at our club room open day in September.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on May 11, 2012, 05:41:30 pm
Hi Malcolm
Thanks for your kind comments.
We do use dowels, brass dowels to align the boards, but I would say much more crucial than that is having boards that are straight and square. Straightness and squareness makes the boards line up easily. This is achieved by using good grade ply which is all cut cut on a machine, and a jig used to assemble the girders. A different jig was used to put the girders together. There is still some movement  but it has been minimised.
We only use two m10 bolts between two boards, though we could use a third in the middle if needs be. So far, the problems have been more to do with poor track laying/ soldering than anything else. But mainly we've been pleased with the results.
Cheers
Kirky

Thanks for the info...just off to B & Q for some M10 bolts and wing nuts.

Regards

Malc
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Donkey on May 11, 2012, 07:20:23 pm

We hope to be exhibiting at our own show in August 2013, although it will be on show at our club room open day in September.
Cheers
Kirky

Details of open day nearer the time please kirky, I would love to see this layout "in the flesh" so to speak.

Marty
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 11, 2012, 07:39:17 pm

We hope to be exhibiting at our own show in August 2013, although it will be on show at our club room open day in September.
Cheers
Kirky

Details of open day nearer the time please kirky, I would love to see this layout "in the flesh" so to speak.

Marty
I'll try to remember, a gentle prod might be needed in August.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 12, 2012, 04:31:08 pm
Some more videos, taken with the ipad;

http://youtu.be/PSEH5UyPkyc (http://youtu.be/PSEH5UyPkyc)
http://youtu.be/Vhwmec6N6Yk (http://youtu.be/Vhwmec6N6Yk)
http://youtu.be/tiENFVaDV2s (http://youtu.be/tiENFVaDV2s)
http://youtu.be/DqpMx2vmME8 (http://youtu.be/DqpMx2vmME8)

Various test runs to check track work before we stick it down, its still only attacked at the ends of the boards.
Still need to iron out one or two issues.
Running, is a dapol voyager with sound chip fitted but not on. A farish 66 pulling dapol spines with a few containers. A farish ews 60 pulling some dapol megafrets and a farish freightliner shanks without train.
Enjoy.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on May 12, 2012, 06:34:47 pm
Thanks for posting these. I particularly liked 4 and 7 where the Voyager goes past the freight train. Its certainly going to be a very, very impressive layout when it is finished. Looking forwards to seeing it in the flesh (so to speak).

Malc
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Pengi on May 13, 2012, 06:42:54 am
Thanks for posting these. I particularly liked 4 and 7 where the Voyager goes past the freight train. Its certainly going to be a very, very impressive layout when it is finished. Looking forwards to seeing it in the flesh (so to speak).

Malc

So do I - that Dapol voyager goes much quicker than my slowcoach Farish ones! Love this layout
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 13, 2012, 09:03:09 am

So do I - that Dapol voyager goes much quicker than my slowcoach Farish ones! Love this layout
That's interesting. We were saying yesterday we thought it was a bit slow. It's partly due to the chip too though. That voyager has a CT Electronik sound decoder installed, which are great for slow running!
Anyway it is flat out on the videos, whereas the other locos are set to a more realistic speed.

Glad you like it though.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Greybeema on May 13, 2012, 09:11:36 am
Brilliant build - really enjoying this - keep the videos coming.  Quite interested in the Fiddle Yard as we dont see them very often and am interested in its design (really looking for the best wat to get the longest loops into the shortest space)...

 :Class414:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 13, 2012, 09:37:25 am
Brilliant build - really enjoying this - keep the videos coming.  Quite interested in the Fiddle Yard as we dont see them very often and am interested in its design (really looking for the best wat to get the longest loops into the shortest space)...

 :Class414:
Glad you like it.
The fiddle yard really isn't built yet. This is due to funds more than anything. We're hoping to get a couple of loops in soon though.
You might be best looking at the plan, at the beginning of the thread, in order to see what the fiddle yard will look like. Incidentally when we started planning in earnest, we started with the fiddle yard. That's because we nicked he idea from allerton junction.
I think he longest loop we have is twelve feet long, but I'll measure it on Tuesday if I remember.

Cheers
kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Pengi on May 13, 2012, 09:53:38 am

So do I - that Dapol voyager goes much quicker than my slowcoach Farish ones! Love this layout
That's interesting. We were saying yesterday we thought it was a bit slow. It's partly due to the chip too though. That voyager has a CT Electronik sound decoder installed, which are great for slow running!
Anyway it is flat out on the videos, whereas the other locos are set to a more realistic speed.

Glad you like it though.

Cheers
Kirky
My Voyagers do 85mph top speed.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: hawkeye on May 13, 2012, 11:01:09 am
Hi Kirky,
This thread gets better & better :thumbsup:. Really interested in this location as it's my local station, so can't wait to see further progress. Hope to get to see it when you have your open day so don't forget to give us the date asap.

Tony
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 13, 2012, 11:42:28 am
Hi guys
According to our website the provisional date for our open day, where you can see Northallerton is 22nd Sept, see herehttp://www.cleveland-mrc.org.uk/events.html (http://www.cleveland-mrc.org.uk/events.html) for further details?

Don't forget you can come and talk to me about the project at our exhibition on August 4th and 5th, I'll be on a dcc demo stand.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Maurits71 on July 10, 2012, 01:16:50 pm
Any updates yet as this is one of the topics I love to follow  :)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 11, 2012, 12:12:31 am
Thanks for that, glad that it interests you.
The update is basically that we are up to point control. This has been discussed in a different thread which I think I called 'servo point control'.
I'll check that in a minute or two, I'll see if I can work out how post a link ( after several glasses of vino, hick)
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 11, 2012, 12:20:34 am
I think I've found the link, it was entitled 'servo operated points'

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6335.msg71755#msg71755 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6335.msg71755#msg71755)

We have just bought a load of components to make up the servo control boards.
It's a job for the next few weeks I think.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: polo2k on November 22, 2012, 02:07:54 am
Hi Kirky, Long time no see. How did you get on with the servos?
Did you mean my YVRR hread where ive used SG90 servos on MERG Servo4 boards, interfaced with Cbus via some rudimentary relays. The frog polarity is done mechanically with micro switches
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 12, 2013, 02:38:36 pm
Well, it's nearly a year since I last reported on Northallerton.
Unfortunately there have been some delays due to becoming a dad for the first time, and then being struck down with illness a few months ago.

Anyway work continues on Northallerton, and hopefully in the next couple of weeks the fiddle yard track laying and wiring will be completed. Photos to follow.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on July 12, 2013, 06:16:03 pm
Glad to see you're back in action. You have certainly had a stressful time, parenthood is bad enough itself without the added illness.
Looking forward to a progress upgrade when you get the chance. Congratulations by the way on becoming a dad.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: scotsoft on July 12, 2013, 06:28:44 pm
Well, it's nearly a year since I last reported on Northallerton.
Unfortunately there have been some delays due to becoming a dad for the first time, and then being struck down with illness a few months ago.

Anyway work continues on Northallerton, and hopefully in the next couple of weeks the fiddle yard track laying and wiring will be completed. Photos to follow.

Cheers
Kirky

Good to hear you are over your illness and I hope you are enjoying being a dad  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 12, 2013, 07:29:37 pm
Cheers for the replies guys.
I wish I was over my illness, unfortunately, that's not the case.
Being a dad is stressful but great. Unfortunately it eats into modelling time!

A bit of the fiddle yard:
(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

Sorry, I can't seem to orientate the picture, but you get the idea.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on July 12, 2013, 09:50:36 pm
Well, it's nearly a year since I last reported on Northallerton.
Unfortunately there have been some delays due to becoming a dad for the first time, and then being struck down with illness a few months ago.


Cheers
Kirky

Hi Kirky,

I hope you are enjoying the first event and are recovered from the second :)
Do you have a boy or a girl? :beers:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 12, 2013, 11:37:47 pm

Hi Kirky,

I hope you are enjoying the first event and are recovered from the second :)
Do you have a boy or a girl? :beers:

Hi Nobby
A girl, followed by another girl.
They are of course, fantastic! And they have had their first train ride!

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: scotsoft on July 12, 2013, 11:55:13 pm
Cheers for the replies guys.
I wish I was over my illness, unfortunately, that's not the case.
Being a dad is stressful but great. Unfortunately it eats into modelling time!

A bit of the fiddle yard:
(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

Sorry, I can't seem to orientate the picture, but you get the idea.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: petercharlesfagg on July 13, 2013, 06:39:21 am


A bit of the fiddle yard:
(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

Sorry, I can't seem to orientate the picture, but you get the idea.

The only thing I can think of saying is OINVU!

I am amazed that becoming a father permits the construction of such a beautiful fiddle yard, what with all the other purchases!!!

Regards Peter.

Apologies, I only saw the image in the picture section and didn't read the whole post!  NOW I understand!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: trainsdownunder on July 13, 2013, 07:34:22 am
I like the bit that says

Quote
A bit of the fiddle yard:

If this is a bit then ...............
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 13, 2013, 09:06:21 am

The only thing I can think of saying is OINVU!

OINVU
???
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 13, 2013, 09:09:52 am
I like the bit that says

Quote
A bit of the fiddle yard:



If this is a bit then ...............

Seriously, the image only shows 1 1/2 boards. The layout, and thus the fiddle yard, is five boards long. I'll try to get full length photo this morning.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Leo1961 on July 13, 2013, 11:28:10 am

The only thing I can think of saying is OINVU!

OINVU
???

Oh, I Envy You  ;)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 13, 2013, 02:10:41 pm

[/quote]
Oh, I Envy You  ;)
[/quote]

Thanks.

A couple more photos.
Obviously not quite finished, but I've loose laid the track in the missing areas so you can get an idea of the completed fiddle yard.
(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)
You can pick out the Northallerton fiddle yard between the forbidden gauge layouts.


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Note the filthy mug shot.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Jack on July 13, 2013, 02:39:02 pm
I know this is a Club layout but that is some Fiddle Yard!!  :goggleeyes:  :envy:  ;D
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 13, 2013, 02:55:56 pm
I know this is a Club layout but that is some Fiddle Yard!!  :goggleeyes:  :envy:  ;D

It's not as big as you think. Remember this is a model of the ECML. There are in fact four fiddle yards, two on the main line, north and south and two on the Teesside line, east and west. If you think that on the ECML you can see (and we have available in N) class 91s, HSTs and voyagers in different liveries, north and south. And then there are coal trains, lots of them, the odd oil train, and containers. To and from Teesside there are similarly GC HSTs and more coal and containers, and also a bit of steel, then there is a lot to fit in.
Given that we are running it as a post 2000 layout, the only regular train we don't have in N is a 185.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 19, 2013, 03:42:38 pm
We've turned the fiddle yard boards over to find .....

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We're in the process of tidying up the droppers. (The green wires are to switch frog polarity and will be just tied up but remain unconnected for a while yet)

Here's a board looking a little more acceptable

(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

Still some work to do before we can test the fiddle yard fully.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Alycidon on September 03, 2013, 11:44:34 am
fantastic layout.  I need to join a club !!.

A
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on September 03, 2013, 04:40:22 pm
fantastic layout.  I need to join a club !!.

A
Thank you.
You are of course welcome to join our club, although it might be a bit inconvenient for you in Norhampton.
However, we do offer an associate membership which is very good value which I think is only £5 a month, plus a contribution for the days you turn up.
We also have an open day on Sept 21st, which I think is a pound. Hopefully we should have some trains moving on Northallerton.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on September 03, 2013, 05:16:40 pm
Any more updates to the layout, Kirky?

Regards

Malc
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on September 03, 2013, 06:31:10 pm
Indeed there are.
I tried to take some photos of the layout last week, only to find a full phone message. But thanks, you've reminded me I need to sort out me phone. If I can get that done tonight I'll take some his evening and hopefully post later.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on September 04, 2013, 03:17:55 pm
As promised, an update.
You can see from the photos we have been working on storage. The boards fold up into five pairs which are held together with a ply board.

(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

And on the reverse we have the hinges which slip into the sandwich construction.
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We've been working on the points. A couple of servo mechanisms have been installed
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This board being displaying gravity defying feats.
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As mentioned the other day, you can see Northallerton working on sept 21 at the Cleveland model railway club open day.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: CF-FZG on September 08, 2013, 12:54:59 am
Hi Kirky,

I'm new to the forum, and reading through most layout planning/build threads on here.

I'm trying to build a set of 'layout features', such as different junction types, styles of fiddle yards etc.

I saw mention earlier in this superb layout that you's used Anyrail - would it be possible for you to post the .any file so I can have a closer look at how you've laid out the fiddle yard and a couple of the junctions please.

Regards,

Mark.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on September 08, 2013, 09:20:40 am
Yep, no problem. Just pm your email address.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Boroboy40 on October 06, 2013, 03:19:06 pm
Some pictures of our open day

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7301.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7301)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7299.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7299)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7298.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7298)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7296.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7296)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7295.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7295)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7293.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7293)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7292.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7292)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7290.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7290)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7289.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7289)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7287.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7287)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Boroboy40 on October 06, 2013, 03:25:46 pm
More servo`s fitting just two to go then some testing

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7288.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7288)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7291.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7291)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7294.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7294)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7297.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7297)

with frog juicer

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7300.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7300)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 08, 2013, 06:29:54 pm
It's great isn't it, you encourage people to join the forum who you think are friends and all they do is post images of you that remind you how unsuccessful the diet is, and what a miserable git you are.  You wouldn't have thought I was celebrating me birthday. :goggleeyes:

Thanks for posting those pics bb40...... Sort of.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Danfilm007 on October 10, 2013, 08:11:41 pm
Come on ladys - let's put the handbags away!  :'(

 :NGF:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 10, 2013, 09:04:53 pm
I suppose when I've read my post again it can look a little bit like I'm having a go.
I'm not, I should have included a big smiley.
And it's me that's the miserable git I the photos. And what's more m actually thoroughly enjoying myself in the pics.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Danfilm007 on October 10, 2013, 09:38:27 pm
No probs :)

I LOVE THE LAYOUT. FOREVER HAVE I DREAMED OF A MODEL OF NORHTALLERTON!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: portland-docks on November 27, 2013, 11:06:54 pm
Hows progress?
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 15, 2014, 09:19:41 am
Well it's been a while since I've updated this thread.
Here are some pics of Northallerton that I took a couple of weeks ago. As you can see we are using the woven card and glued down kitchen towel method for 'first fix' scenery. This has then been covered with textured paint. THe one I used is from b and q and is their own brand. The brown paint is acrylic.

I should say ballasting is just about complete and there is some fine titting-up to do.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13181.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13181)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13182.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13182)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13183.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13183)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13184.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13184)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 15, 2014, 09:59:33 am
Oh yes, I also found these of a a house. If I could get some sense out of googles ipad app I would be able to post a link of the street view of this house. Needless to say its on the A167 just after (or before) the crossing.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13196.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13196)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13197.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13197)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13198.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13198)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on June 15, 2014, 10:34:19 am
Glad to hear progress is still being made, Kirky :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on June 15, 2014, 10:43:27 am
Nice to see it coming along. How long to finish do you think?
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Greybeema on June 15, 2014, 11:08:11 am
Good to see you "back" Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 15, 2014, 11:36:51 am
Cheers for the responses guys.
How long to finish? Well it was always a four year project from 2011. We are also booked for our own show (Cleveland model railway club) next year. I'm a teacher so hopefully I might get a bit of time in the summer holidays.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: PhilD on June 15, 2014, 11:57:07 pm
Wow!!
What a magnificent project with some real engineering built in.

What are the cable holders that you have used - they look like ring binder spines?

Phil
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 16, 2014, 08:52:12 am
Hi Phil
That is exactly what they are. They are not my favourite part of the layout.

cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 21, 2014, 07:41:06 pm
Just a few pics to share of Northallerton progress.
We've had some problems with the textured paint slipping and therefore not filling the various grooves that needed filling. We've therefore used plaster and polyfilla. The latter gives a very smooth finish after a light sand.
The final image in this set shows the artists trowel I used to apply the plaster or polyfilla.
The paint is acrylic burnt umber.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13316.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13316)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13317.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13317)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13318.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13318)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13319.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13319)

Cheers
Kirky



Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 22, 2014, 07:16:02 pm
Here's a little bit of info about the Northallerton control panel.

As stated elsewhere on the thread, Northallerton is run using an ESU ECoS. We use iPhones and iPads with the excellent touchcab to give us a handheld option. This works well. However controlling the points was always intended to be controlled by a Panel (ie not DCC). As such the panel is actually very small, and integrates with the base boards so we won't have any extra panels to lug around with us when exhibiting. As you can see in the photos the panel consists of a row of toggle switches which are simple on offs connected to the servo4s from MERG. As yet we have no decision made on how to operate the fiddle yard and as such is manual for the foreseeable future.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13320.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13320)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13321.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13321)

As can be seen in the pis, we have a track diagram which is colour coded to show which points need throwing for which route.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 30, 2014, 05:53:22 pm
Just a quick update guys.
I mentioned in an earlier post that I was struggling to make my ipad play ball.
Hopefully the link below will take you to a google street view. There you can hopefully see a vague similarity to this:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13197.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13197)

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.331488,-1.442012,3a,75y,128.37h,75.61t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1scGfR6CCmnCtD6WUVqG_Cqw!2e0 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.331488,-1.442012,3a,75y,128.37h,75.61t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1scGfR6CCmnCtD6WUVqG_Cqw!2e0)

cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Sprintex on June 30, 2014, 08:29:19 pm
Hopefully the link below will take you to a google street view. There you can hopefully see a vague similarity to this:

It didn't, it does now :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Captain_Swoop on July 23, 2014, 11:50:36 am
Hi, Andy from the Club here.
Just signed up for the Forum and thought I should make my first post here :) :wave:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Sprintex on July 23, 2014, 01:45:19 pm
Welcome in Andy :wave:


Paul
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Caz on July 23, 2014, 02:04:44 pm
Welcome to the friendly forum Andy, nice to have you join us, how about letting us know a bit more about you and your interests in the Welcome & Introduction thread.   :)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Captain_Swoop on July 23, 2014, 02:52:46 pm
Hi guys. I intend to, but thought I should post a hello to the guys for mthe Cleveland Model Railway club along the way. :)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 23, 2014, 06:41:43 pm
Hi guys. I intend to, but thought I should post a hello to the guys for mthe Cleveland Model Railway club along the way. :)

Have you started on them trees yet? :D

Welcome of course!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 30, 2014, 06:31:32 pm
Update.
Just a few pics to share.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_15294.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15294)
A view of the newly installed platform bases looking north. Some brick work completed but that's about it. The 91 is heading south through the station.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_15291.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15291)
A view of the new fiddle tray over the top of the fiddle yard.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_15290.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15290)
The beginnings of a little gulley and some relief added at the front.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_15288.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15288)
More platform views

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_15289.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=15289)
Platforms looking south. Obviously not glued down. Also showing location of allotments where the drill is.

Cheers
Kirky

Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: njee20 on August 31, 2014, 04:33:57 pm
I've seen this thread pop up periodically and always ignored it on the assumption it was LNER, like so many ECML layouts! Very excited to see its modern! Shall watch with interest now, it looks a beast!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 31, 2014, 07:15:22 pm
I've seen this thread pop up periodically and always ignored it on the assumption it was LNER, like so many ECML layouts! Very excited to see its modern! Shall watch with interest now, it looks a beast!
So what made you look this time I wonder?

And just to confirm that Northallerton is definitely modern, ie post 2000, it's unlikely that we will even have preserved kettles. Or if we do, I have a lovely dummy 67 to whack on the back. That should keep the kettle fans steaming :D

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on August 31, 2014, 09:25:06 pm
I've got news for you, Kirky.
The real ones are dummies, too :-X
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 04, 2014, 05:55:39 pm
In an attempt to avoid confusion I'm posting this link here which is Paul's thread with a link to a video taken last week.

I've seen this thread pop up periodically and always ignored it on the assumption it was LNER, like so many ECML layouts! Very excited to see its modern! Shall watch with interest now, it looks a beast!

Or if we do, I have a lovely dummy 67 to whack on the back. That should keep the kettle fans steaming :D

Indeed the video shows Paul's A4 with said 67 on the back.

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=23758.msg250892#msg250892 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=23758.msg250892#msg250892)


Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 05, 2015, 05:03:49 pm
A bit of an update.
We've been building bridges. Here's a couple.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/22/thumb_26792.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=26792)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/22/thumb_26787.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=26787)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/22/thumb_26786.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=26786)

I'll try and get round to posting a few more pics sooner rather than later.

Cheers
Kirky

Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on July 05, 2015, 07:15:57 pm
It's been a while since we had an update, Kirky. You must have done more than a few bridges since August last year?
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 08, 2015, 01:44:06 pm
It's been a while since we had an update, Kirky. You must have done more than a few bridges since August last year?
I suppose we have done a bit more than bridges.
Lots of landscaping, getting ready to plant trees and grass.
Put in roads, built layout ends, started to build some houses and tested a few bits and pieces.
As I might have mentioned once or twice, I'm a teacher and im hoping to get a lot done through the summer holidays. That's if I get my way. Hopefully the updates will be more frequent over July and August.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 01, 2015, 11:01:29 am
A slight deviation from the model, to the real thing.
Last week I was in Northallerton for a course. I had the opportunity to spend an hour or so on the platform taking a few pics. Here's what I saw

A one box freight liner

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_31128.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=31128)

An HST being dragged
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_31135.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=31135)

A rail and sleeper train
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_31129.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=31129)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_31130.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=31130)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_31132.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=31132)
37s

A rake of three deltics on their way from York to Shildon

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_31133.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=31133)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_31134.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=31134)


Hopefully I'll get some of the model posted soon.
Cheers
Kirky


Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 16, 2016, 02:33:24 pm
Some pics of Northallerton showing our recent progress.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_34260.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34260)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_34259.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34259)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_34258.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34258)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_34257.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34257)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_34261.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34261)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_34273.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34273)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_34272.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34272)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_34271.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34271)

Enjoy.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on January 16, 2016, 04:32:22 pm
Good to see some 'colours' appearing on Northallerton, Kirky :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 17, 2016, 08:15:40 am
Hi Nobby
Glad you spotted the 'colours'. The intention is to go for an autumnal feel.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on January 17, 2016, 09:44:53 am
Hi Nobby
Glad you spotted the 'colours'. The intention is to go for an autumnal feel.

Cheers
Kirky

Something you have all succeeded very well with :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 17, 2016, 10:19:56 am
Thanks for that Nobby. Im glad you think we have achieved the desired effect so far. It feels like sometimes we get our heads so far up the bottom of something we can lose sight of the reality. We have had such massive arguments about the colour green, and what green looks like in autumn.
Ultimately though we agreed that if it looks right, it is right!
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 17, 2016, 12:40:07 pm
 :hellosign: Kirky yes agree with N N that is nice modelling, the colours look spot on &   :greatpicturessign: thanks for sharing.
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Pengi on January 17, 2016, 12:47:23 pm
Good work Kirky :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on January 17, 2016, 01:54:31 pm
Have you got a date/location for its first outing?
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 17, 2016, 02:01:00 pm
Have you got a date/location for its first outing?
Squeaky bum time!
Yes, we are exhibiting at our own club exhibition for its inaugural outinging. Redcar College, corporation Road, Redcar, August 6th and 7th 2016.
That's a mere seven months away!
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: port perran on January 17, 2016, 02:29:48 pm
Starting to look very good to me.
I'm sure the layout will be ready in time for the exhibition.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on January 17, 2016, 03:23:20 pm
I know it's a bit off topic, and not even our gauge, but how is the zig zag project going, @kirky (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=492) ? Saw a presentation at last year's show and as a local lad, was very interested.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 17, 2016, 03:33:02 pm
I know it's a bit off topic, and not even out gauge, but how is the zig zag project going, @kirky ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=492[/url]) ? Saw a presentation at last year's show and as a local lad, was very interested.


Interesting question Malcolm. I suppose the simple one word answer is 'slowly'.
There's been issues around where the layout will go (at the museum) so no work has begun on the baseboards as yet. Having said that buildings are being built and I believe the rolling stock kit building is well under way too. I think it will be very impressive when finished.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on January 17, 2016, 04:48:30 pm
My dad worked on the railways and Skinningrove was on his patch, so I had heard about the zigzags, but never saw them. Tell the lads to get a move on, I'll be in Redcar in August!!  :D
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 17, 2016, 04:50:57 pm
My dad worked on the railways and Skinningrove was on his patch, so I had heard about the zigzags, but never saw them. Tell the lads to get a move on, I'll be in Redcar in August!!  :D
As you know Malc, you can't rush 'pbore'
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on January 28, 2016, 11:10:55 pm
Here is a bit of an update.
There's a couple of snaps showing some allotment features. Kindly painted by one of our OO members!

Here is a couple of allotments, the nearer one being an unpainted cast, the rear one being a Harburn hobbies pre painted model that cost a small fortune.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_34882.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34882)

Here's another pre cast unpainted one.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_34881.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34881)

And a couple of views of the southern end of the layout.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_34884.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34884)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_34885.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34885)

That's all for now.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on February 06, 2016, 02:30:03 pm
A few photos showing the progress made this morning.
Mainly showing the path to the network rail cabin.
And Dave working on the culvert at the southern end of the railway.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_35138.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=35138)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_35137.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=35137)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_35136.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=35136)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_35135.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=35135) g

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_35134.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=35134)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_35133.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=35133)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_35132.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=35132)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_35131.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=35131)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_35130.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=35130)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: portland-docks on February 07, 2016, 12:47:51 pm
the cabin is a track sectioning cabin for the overhead line :)

so what you need is a non flat roof building, with wires coming up from the building to the OHL, i will try get a picture for you this week!

also dont forget our generator and UPS room at the north end of the station on the northbound side, then there is 2 relay rooms on the southbound side, still on the northern end of the platforms, inbetween the "up main" and sidings

paul :)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on February 07, 2016, 02:23:39 pm
Hiya Paul
Many thanks for that info. We are indeed struggling getting hold of info from the southern end of the layout. A few photos from that end would be more than welcome.

I think we've got the relay buildings in. I think I've included a picture somewhere, hang on ...
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_34259.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34259)
Them two buildings Towards the right of the picture, is that them?

Many thanks again Paul.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: portland-docks on February 07, 2016, 02:25:20 pm
Yep looks like them to me!

I will sort out pics of everything else for you which you cant see unless you have my job lol

Paul
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on February 07, 2016, 03:50:05 pm
Great.
Thanks Paul.

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on April 17, 2016, 04:26:47 pm
Hi Guys
A quick update to Northallerton.
As you can see we've some headway on scenery.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/3/thumb_38293.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38293)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/3/thumb_38290.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38290)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/3/thumb_38245.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38245)

You may notice that we have built a couple of station buildings. At least a couple of first attempts. They may be rebuilt at some time in the future but for now they are a reasonable representation.
Here's a close up

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/3/thumb_38294.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38294)

Northallerton can be seen operating in its current state (pretty much what is in these pics) on Sun 1st May at the Cleveland Model Railway Club Open Day at our club room, from 10 till 4.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on April 17, 2016, 08:56:32 pm
Good to see more greenery and some buildings appearing, Kirky :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on April 19, 2016, 09:15:50 am
Good to see more greenery and some buildings appearing, Kirky :thumbsup:

Cheers Nobby.

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: wookie on April 19, 2016, 02:24:34 pm
Scenery looking very nice mate   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 02, 2016, 09:37:40 am
Some further updates.

We had a day running Northallerton yesterday at our open day. It ran well on the whole. A few niggles to have to attend to. But the best thing was that Alan turned up with the dairy. At last the great big gaping hole in the front of the layout has been filled, albeit temporarily.
Just beyond the dairy in the first picture is the allotment. I haven't got a close up picture of that I'm afraid. I'll try and rectify that tomorrow.

Some pictures:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Northallert_shy;on/Dir_3/medium_38976.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38976)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Northallert_shy;on/Dir_3/medium_38977.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38977)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Northallert_shy;on/Dir_3/medium_38980.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38980)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_38992.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38992)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_38993.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38993)

Northallerton will be making its first exhibition appearance at Cleveland Model Railway exhibition on August 6th and 7th.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 03, 2016, 10:18:15 pm
As promised, a photo of the allotments.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_39117.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39117)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: 47033 on May 09, 2016, 05:25:05 pm
That allotment scene looks fantastic, great work.

Jamie
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on May 09, 2016, 08:32:00 pm
I did wonder who'd nicked my asparagus and now I know :D ;)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: port perran on May 09, 2016, 08:50:23 pm
Fantastic allotment scene. Love it.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 15, 2016, 01:31:00 pm
I did wonder who'd nicked my asparagus and now I know :D ;)

Hi nobby
Many many thanks for the asparagus tips.


 :sorrysign:


Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 28, 2016, 06:44:41 pm
We've been having a go at the platform fencing today.
Here are three photos showing some of the fencing. By no means complete.

The etches are from Peedie Models which were specially done by Paul at  Peedie Models using photos I sent him of the fencing at Northallerton.
I have to say these are fantastic etches which cut easily from the fret but are nice and strong. A first class job by Peedie Models.
Hope you all agree.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_40147.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=40147)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_40145.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=40145)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_40143.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=40143)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on May 28, 2016, 08:39:46 pm
Fencing looks excellent, Kirky :thumbsup:
Top marks to Paul at Peedie.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Ditape on May 28, 2016, 08:53:00 pm
That fencing is V nice, a good job ,well done to all involved.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 28, 2016, 10:51:36 pm
 :hellosign: Gotta agree with Di & NN,  :thumbsup: for the fencing, thanks for sharing
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 31, 2016, 06:03:34 pm
A slight alteration to the fencing.
I forgot about the hoarding that sits on that part of the platform.
We decided the poppy advert helps define the Autumn time of year. Any comments appreciated.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_40274.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=40274)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 02, 2016, 07:42:43 pm
This afty ive been installing the phone mast and control box, and a bit of fencing, which you might have to zoom in to see.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/492-020616193903.jpeg)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on June 02, 2016, 08:14:42 pm
Looks very good, Kirky.
Seems to be something strange still in the Media section as the pic in your previous post is no longer available to see. Just says 'Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery'
@Only Me (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1328)

Sorry Both - just seen the discussions about 'old' pics in the 'Posting Images......' thread so ignore that last bit
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 02, 2016, 08:29:30 pm
Looks very good, Kirky.
Seems to be something strange still in the Media section as the pic in your previous post is no longer available to see. Just says 'Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery'
@Only Me ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1328[/url])

Hi Mick
I guess that's something to do with tank and Paul removing the old media software?? The picture above was uploaded with the new gallery system. It's taken me five years to get used to the media button, and then they go and change it - typical - tut.

Thanks tho.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Maurits71 on June 02, 2016, 09:09:56 pm
love it what you have done :)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 02, 2016, 09:31:42 pm
Just occurred to me that I may not have posted pictures of my very simple phone mast.
Simply used a Veissmann catenary post and stuck on bits of plasticard.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/492-020616212018.jpeg)

and the finished thing looks like this (not a great photo I'm afraid)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/492-020616212613.jpeg)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 02, 2016, 11:18:13 pm
 :hellosign: &  :greatpicturessign: The phone mast looking good in situ, thanks for the updates
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 19, 2016, 08:12:29 am
A little update.
The deadline is fast approaching and although there will undoubtedly be a massive surge in activity in the last couple of weeks, we are continuing to make progress.

Firstly, we just wanted to add some modernism to the allotments, so we've added blue barrels, probably used as water butts but they can often be seen on modern day allotments
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-180616163221.jpeg)
and
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-180616161414.jpeg)

We've had a little go at doing a platform sign, and there are plenty to do - modern stations are littered with signage.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-180616161332.jpeg)

And at the north end of the layout we had a little triangle of space to fill in. In real Northallerton this area is occupied by some housing but its orientation is turned by 90 degrees and of course due to our compromise in width the real space is much longer.Needlesstosay, we are pleased with the results so far. The trees will be planted once theyve been autumnised.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-180616161500.jpeg)

And finally again a much foreshortened building. The railway building in the pictures has been made using the photoshop technique, but only shows a portion of the real building. It is currently used a network rail storage building. Last time I paid a site visit, there were redundant signals piled up in the yard.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-180616161627.jpeg)
and
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-180616161547.jpeg)
Still some work to do, but hopefully you can see what we are trying achieve.

The inaugral exhibition is on 6th and 7th August at our own exhibition in Redcar. This year is a special as it is a north eastern themed exhibition with I think six n gauge layouts.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Maurits71 on June 19, 2016, 08:32:14 am
thanks for the update, like the 2 houses
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on June 19, 2016, 10:15:24 am
Very nice, Kirky.
The pics of the allotments with the 'autumnised' colours are great :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 19, 2016, 10:20:15 am
Very nice, Kirky.
The pics of the allotments with the 'autumnised' colours are great :thumbsup:
Cheers Mick. Im really pleased with the allotment, not bad when you think I left it to a couple of dublo modellers!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: GScaleBruce on June 19, 2016, 11:07:39 am
Very nice indeed. I'm sure you've told us, but I've been to bed since then, but are the trees hand made? They look superb.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 19, 2016, 12:49:58 pm
Actually Bruce, you are right. I don't think I've mentioned the trees at all. Yes they are hand built by Tony, another dublo modeller who had his arm twisted into smaller scale modelling.
They are wire and plaster. Wire rope untwisted and then plastered. And I believe he used wig hair for the foliage.
We really like them and I'm tempted to have a go meself one day.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on June 19, 2016, 01:58:57 pm
Not so much two mill modelling as toupée modelling then :-X
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 19, 2016, 02:09:43 pm
Not so much two mill modelling as toupée modelling then :-X
:laughabovepost:
Yet another scalp to add to your comedic hit list Mick
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 22, 2016, 11:32:19 pm
A few more pics

the little garden area at the north end
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-220616214824.jpeg)


A plonked unit. This might be moved yet.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-220616214634.jpeg)


Some more femcing.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-220616214331.jpeg)

Xheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 03, 2016, 08:01:27 am
Some more fairly incomplete scenic work to share.

Firstly, Ive been building another building for the industrial estate at the back of the layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-030716065937.jpeg)

The large building the on right is a cut and shut piko engine shed. Theres a couple of unpainted knightwing portakabins there and the hacked hornby building.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-030716070130.jpeg)

All building need further painwork and weathering. The large building on the right just has a wash of primer on it.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-030716070234.jpeg)

Then theres the network rail depot. Actually I think this isnt NR, but some sort of storage facility.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-030716070326.jpeg)

Ive repainted it, added drain pipes which are unpainted, a shutter door and a couple of side doors, and a couple of signs.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-030716070438.jpeg)

This really is simple building. Built from bits of plasticard left lying about. Not built to any particular plan, just what looks right and fits in there. Its about 10x10 cm. In reality the real building is 100 feet x 100 feet, so you can get the kind of compromise we are working with.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-030716070537.jpeg)

Obviously its not planted yet. It still needs weathering.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-030716070640.jpeg)

Across the road from the Network rail depot is a modern (1990s?) housing estate.
Here is the road beginnings

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-030716070741.jpeg)

And with some housing in place. Incompleted severn models houses. Lovely kits.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-030716070827.jpeg)

Im not sure about the block paving roadway. Ive used metcalf brick. I might look for something different yet.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-030716070913.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-030716070953.jpeg)

And just in case you havent seen it on its own thread, here is the antitresspass boards in place...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-250616151706.jpeg)

And this is the backscene we are going to use, hopefully.
Not sized yet, this is just the pictures stitched together.

Anyone know of adecent printer that can do custom backscenes?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-030716071436.jpeg)

Just over a month to go... starting to get a bit edgy.

Cheers
Kirky

You can see Northallerton at the Cleveland Model Rail Club exhibition August 6th/7th, Redcar College, Corportation Road, Redcar.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Caz on July 03, 2016, 08:04:08 am
Coming on nicely Kirky, hope you get it all done in time.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on July 03, 2016, 09:46:41 am
Nice work, Kirky.

I believe Lawrence had his backscene printed in one piece on vinyl so maybe he could help @Lawrence (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=16)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 03, 2016, 02:25:16 pm
 :hellosign: Excellent work, looking good &  :greatpicturessign:
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 10, 2016, 09:13:16 am
Hi Everyone
Only a couple more photos to share today.
Didnt get too much done unfortunately.

Anyway, we've been doing a bit of gardening. I think we might be puttingup new fences tho, since the photos show very wonky ones.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-100716090042.jpeg)

And this one
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-100716085933.jpeg)

All the fences you can see in these pictures are self build fences. I downloaded a few fence panel images from google images and then resized and copied into multiple lengths. Then printed out and stuck back to back. We are trying to recreate the multiple fence types that you see in modern gardens.
Obviously we havent mastered the art of laying stright fences.


cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: port perran on July 10, 2016, 09:15:55 am
Looking good.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on July 10, 2016, 10:32:44 am

Obviously we havent mastered the art of laying stright fences.


You mean you've seen some straight fences somewhere, Kirky? ???
My panels are far worse than the ones you've modelled :-[
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 13, 2016, 07:43:33 am
Fencing

We've done a bit more fencing. I think Ive said before, that in the modern world there are so many walls barriers fences and signs. Northallerton seems to be no different.

Fences around the housing estate

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-130716073015.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-130716073051.jpeg)

And some fencing around the car park. Note that thye cheeky little kink allows me to get the fence to end at a board end. Hopefully doesnt llok too obvious.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-130716073127.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-130716073153.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/492-130716074238.jpeg)

Cheers
Kirky



Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: port perran on July 13, 2016, 08:11:11 am
Very neat work.
Yes, we are a nation of fences. We all like our gardens to be fenced off from next door.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 13, 2016, 08:00:58 pm
How did you give the Peco plastic concrete sleepers a more realistic colour, please? (I need to do mine.)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 13, 2016, 10:35:32 pm
How did you give the Peco plastic concrete sleepers a more realistic colour, please? (I need to do mine.)
Well thanks for that Chris. Im not so sure they are a more realistic colour but, yes they are painted.
Essentially the process was to glue down the track and check everything electrically. We then ballasted using the spread and dropper method, and then after allowing to dry out for weeks I painted the track and ballast using an airbrush with a very weak mix of precision paints track dirt. I repainted after allowing it to dry again. In certain places a third coat was added if it looked like it needed it. The rails were wiped in between. In the station we went over with a weak blackish wash to give the appearance of oil spillage. Hope this helps.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 16, 2016, 06:43:25 pm
A couple of pics of the platforms to share. This shows the platform edges horribly close. Ive been doing some other work this morning, but not much else worth photographing

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-160716152815.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-160716152618.jpeg)

The platform edges are the one product from smartmodels that I have found to be ok.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 16, 2016, 07:30:49 pm
Thank you. The station looks excellent.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: belstone on July 16, 2016, 08:31:06 pm
Looking good, I like the allotment especially.  I wouldn't worry about the wonky garden fences - I lived for a while in a 1980s built house with wood panel garden fencing, and it looked exactly like that, at least until half of it blew over in a storm.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 16, 2016, 10:45:34 pm
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign: Them platforms do look good, thanks for the updates
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: G_N_E_R on July 20, 2016, 10:18:22 am
Looking fantastic! Cheers for sharing!
Regards Phil
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/4330-200716101739.png) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=42122)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 21, 2016, 07:16:44 am
Ive just made a list of things to do for the layout before the first showing of Northallerton on August 6th/7th.

That list has 45 jobs on it!

I think Ive got 12 full days, and the odd evening to try and get through most of this. Starting in about 20 minutes time...

Photos to follow hopefully.

Cheers
Kirky

Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 21, 2016, 07:37:38 am
The backscene arrived from the printers yesterday.

I would like to wholeheartedly recommend Art-printers.com.

The service is unbelievably good. Fast, great communication and excellent prints. And the chap who runs it, John, is just so helpful. I cannot praise him enough.
I would normally expect to pay for a service like that, but John offers completely reasonable prices.

Usual disclaimer applies.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: MinZaPint on July 21, 2016, 11:05:55 am
Really nice modelling and those allotments look terrific  :thumbsup:  :greatwork:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 21, 2016, 07:24:57 pm
Ok so a couple of pics showing the sky. I think when we add the trees it will look ok.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-210716173805.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-210716173859.jpeg)

More to follow tomorrow.

Cheers
Kirky

Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 22, 2016, 10:25:43 am
Thanks for the update, Kirky. Adding a backscene always improves the look of a layout and a plain sky one can be, as on yours, a good choice. I agree that adding trees and bushes though will help disguise the division between land and sky. I really like your ballasted concrete sleepered track and aim to achive similar results but with different coloured ballast. Did you use anything under the ballast to raise the surface to normal sleeper height? I'm thinking of using thin strips of balsa wood as used by another NGF member. I see that waiting for a train has proved too much for the passenger on the platform though! 8-)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 22, 2016, 10:09:13 pm
Some more work done today

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-220716215540.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-220716215635.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-220716215822.jpeg)

And I've  persuaded me brother to do some painting of the woodwork. Nice black woodwork now.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-220716215917.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-220716220011.jpeg)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 22, 2016, 10:45:04 pm
 :hellosign: &  :greatpicturessign: all looking good. thanks for the updates
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on July 23, 2016, 05:13:16 pm
I may be wrong, but I don't think you will get away with the drawing pins holding your fence up. Somebody will spot them. 😃
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2016, 05:46:27 pm
I may be wrong, but I don't think you will get away with the drawing pins holding your fence up. Somebody will spot them. 😃

My N gauge Ringo Starr has already been asking who nicked the cymbals from his drum kit :laugh:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: jrb on July 23, 2016, 06:18:56 pm
I may be wrong, but I don't think you will get away with the drawing pins holding your fence up. Somebody will spot them. 😃

My N gauge Ringo Starr has already been asking who nicked the cymbals from his drum kit :laugh:

I thought they were tables for a very long, thin beer garden.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Terry Marrs on July 23, 2016, 06:24:33 pm
Nice work!!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 23, 2016, 08:15:59 pm
Malc, Nobby and jrb you are such cheeky fellows.
Clearly they are frisbees that the OO people have been chucking at our model.

Kirky

Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 24, 2016, 07:56:24 am
I cleared some of the detritus from the layout yesterday and took a few more photos.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-230716153748.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-230716153855.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-230716154004.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-230716154203.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-230716154337.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-230716155856.jpeg)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on July 24, 2016, 10:36:01 am
Smashing work, Kirky. I really like the 'autumnised' trees but don't envy you guys the job of planting them all :no:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 24, 2016, 10:46:34 am
Thanks for the latest updates. Very good photos. It's looking very realistic, now. Plenty of excellent scenic work to be admired.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: port perran on July 24, 2016, 10:49:46 am
Looks very good. I particularly like the over bridge.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 24, 2016, 10:59:11 am
I'm having a day off from Northallerton today.
Might take the kids out to er ... Northallerton😀

Cheers for the positive comments, I'm gonna need all the encouragement I can get over the next week or two.

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 25, 2016, 08:57:05 pm
Hi Guys
Ive been busy making headspan catenary today. No photos to show of that though.

Just some of more trees

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-250716204653.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-250716204539.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-250716204406.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-250716204232.jpeg)

and some watery pics

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-250716204126.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-250716204047.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-250716203841.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-250716203744.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-250716203636.jpeg)

The watery areas will need some modeifying, extra folliage etc.

Cheers
Kirky




Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2016, 09:16:19 pm
Thanks for the update, Kirky. Another excellent set of photos. of your very realistic scenery. What did you use for the water, please?
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 25, 2016, 09:45:21 pm
Hi Chris
I think its Deluxe materials solid water. I cant check cos its at the club, but I will do so tomorrow.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: lil chris on July 25, 2016, 11:32:00 pm
Very nice layout and a good length of trains can be run, the scenery looks very good especially the trees.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 26, 2016, 07:47:25 am
Hi Chris
I think its Deluxe materials solid water. I cant check cos its at the club, but I will do so tomorrow.
Cheers
Kirky

Thanks, Kirky. There are a lot of options how to model water and I'm researching which to use at Cant Cove.

Best wishes,
Chris
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: lil chris on July 26, 2016, 11:12:30 am
I did my river using the loo paper and pva technique, I am happy how it has turned out. My first attempt on my old layout using the solid stuff was a disaster it curled up at the edges, I think it was some Jarvis stuff. By the way every now and then I add another coat of acrylic varnish.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 26, 2016, 08:50:20 pm
Hi Chris
I think its Deluxe materials solid water. I cant check cos its at the club, but I will do so tomorrow.
Cheers
Kirky

@Chris in Prague (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895)

Yep, I checked today and its definitely Deluxe Materials Solid Water.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 26, 2016, 09:03:00 pm
Hi
A bit of an update on catenary.

As you may well know, there is no headspan catenary available to buy, so essentially we were forced to either build our own or use something nothing like the ECML.
We opted to build our own.

Plastic was out as it was just too weak. So brass was used. 2mm H section from the excellent metalsmith.co.uk, thanks Barry.
The wires are thin brass rod, as thin as I could get away with, but clearly over scale. The register arms and the insulators are from N brasslocos. Excellent service there too. (We really do have some excellent people servicing our needs in the N gauge world!)

Here it all soldered together.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-260716172706.jpeg)

As you can see, its far from perfect, but I'm hoping that when it goes in the poor build wont be too noticable.

Heres a few together ready for painting.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-260716172628.jpeg)

First coat of grey. I just used humbrol primer.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-260716172811.jpeg)

The uprights have been given a coat of yukky brown and these are now ready for planting.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-260716172956.jpeg)

Ive built five. Now I have another seven to build when the rest of the H section arrives, hopefully tomorrow.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Ditape on July 26, 2016, 09:20:30 pm
They look really smart particularily when you see them against the layout. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on July 26, 2016, 09:39:47 pm
Top marks for creating your own catenary but the proximity of the uprights to the unelectrified running lines scares me :worried:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 26, 2016, 09:50:56 pm
Top marks for creating your own catenary but the proximity of the uprights to the unelectrified running lines scares me :worried:

Ah yes, that one doesnt go there. I have a three road one for that bit.

Cheers
Kirky.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2016, 08:54:41 am
Hi Chris
I think its Deluxe materials solid water. I cant check cos its at the club, but I will do so tomorrow.
Cheers
Kirky

@Chris in Prague ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895[/url])

Yep, I checked today and it's definitely Deluxe Materials Solid Water.

Cheers
Kirky


Thanks, Kirky. I had not realised that there were so many possibilities to model water.
Top marks for creating your own catenary but the proximity of the uprights to the unelectrified running lines scares me :worried:


Ah yes, that one doesnt go there. I have a three road one for that bit.

Cheers
Kirky.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 27, 2016, 10:43:17 pm
A few more pictures to share.
Alan came over today with the dairy. Although its not quite finished I think the photos give the idea of what is intended.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-270716223152.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-270716223230.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-270716223356.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-270716223437.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-270716223518.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-270716224103.jpeg)

The HST in Virgin livery is one of Alan's repaints. Its a Dapol HST. Very nice job too.

Cheers
Lirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on July 28, 2016, 09:05:39 am
The dairy is super, smashing, modern, unlike all those run down places I used to go to as a Sales Manager.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 28, 2016, 09:37:03 am
Thanks for these photos. The modern dairy is highly impressive; excellent work. The HST relivery is a superb job, too.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 28, 2016, 04:29:21 pm
Thanks for these photos. The modern dairy is highly impressive; excellent work. The HST relivery is a superb job, too.
I think in reality it must have been run down cos they knocked it down in 2012!

Theyre building houses on that site now!

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Pengi on July 29, 2016, 09:23:21 pm
Thanks for these photos. The modern dairy is highly impressive; excellent work. The HST relivery is a superb job, too.
Fully agree - terrific work  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: port perran on July 30, 2016, 08:34:25 am
Excellent work there
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 31, 2016, 06:23:22 pm
I had a day off from building the layout yesterday, but managed to get an early start this morning. Three of us have been working on the layout today.
The catenary went in. Most of these views show off the catenary. They are carefully selected to show off the dodgy way theyve gone in. I think I must have been born with wonky eyes. When they went in they were straight - honest...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-310716174710.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-310716174805.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-310716175021.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-310716175111.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-310716175923.jpeg)

These ones really show the fore shortening that happens in some photos. This is actually about fifteen feet long.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-310716180036.jpeg)

And this one is nigh on 20 feet
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-310716180124.jpeg)

The houses have had new front doors.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-310716180219.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-310716180416.jpeg)

A new - old fence for the scrap yard.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-310716180638.jpeg)

Someones nicked the dairy!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-310716180749.jpeg)

A couple more days toil and then its testing time.  :D

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: port perran on July 31, 2016, 07:25:52 pm
Looks brilliant. I'm very impressed.
That catenary would be a nightmare for me, I'm ham fisted, I'd have it down in seconds if there was a problem with a train  :D
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on July 31, 2016, 08:31:39 pm
Yep - looks good now the 'knitting' is up :thumbsup:


Someones nicked the dairy!


And the scrap yard has filled up! I wonder whether we can come to a conclusion, readers :hmmm:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: njee20 on July 31, 2016, 09:21:35 pm
The HST is superb. Look forward to seeing the layout, looks excellent.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 01, 2016, 11:58:51 pm
 :hellosign: Excellent modelling by all concerned Kiirky, all looking superb, love the HST repaint &  :greatpicturessign: thanks for the updates
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: MinZaPint on August 02, 2016, 12:02:27 pm
That scenic work looks really good, love the colour variation on the grassed areas  :thumbsup: Guess I'll just have to imagine the Steamers passing through  ::)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: belstone on August 02, 2016, 12:20:06 pm
This is looking really good.  I don't suppose it will be travelling to any shows far south enough for me to see it?

Richard
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on August 02, 2016, 04:39:05 pm
Spectacular,Kirky. Well done to all the crew.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 02, 2016, 04:43:25 pm
That scenic work looks really good, love the colour variation on the grassed areas  :thumbsup: Guess I'll just have to imagine the Steamers passing through  ::)

Tornado passes through occasionally. Will that do you?

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 02, 2016, 05:53:35 pm
This is looking really good.  I don't suppose it will be travelling to any shows far south enough for me to see it?

Richard
Hi Richard
Well, we would certainly like to bring it down south. But after the weekend we have exactly zero bookings.
We are certainly available 2017 onwards.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: MinZaPint on August 04, 2016, 02:48:19 pm
That scenic work looks really good, love the colour variation on the grassed areas  :thumbsup: Guess I'll just have to imagine the Steamers passing through  ::)

Tornado passes through occasionally. Will that do you?

Cheers
Kirky

Will look forward to the vid  :thumbsup:  cheers  David
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 08, 2016, 07:05:33 pm
Heres some pictures of us getting ready for the exhibition.
Apologies for the pictures of ridiculousluy ugly people in red t shirts.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-080816104829-426631422.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-080816104829-42663662.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-080816104843-42665541.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-080816104843-426652004.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-080816104908-426691328.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-080816104927-42673984.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-080816104939-4267581.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-080816104939-42675514.jpeg)

Sadly someone has posted a photo on farcebook of this pillock who is usually on the other side of the lens.
(facebook page is at https://www.facebook.com/northallertonngauge/ (https://www.facebook.com/northallertonngauge/) )

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-080816182900.jpeg)

We had a great time. Its been a particulrarly stressful time over the last two weeks. I spent thirteen hours at the club on Thursday last week just to get finished. Well worth it though, and we are finally available for exhibitions.

cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: lil chris on August 08, 2016, 07:10:25 pm
It looks pretty impressive to me, Is there any chance of it on this side of the pennines ?
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 08, 2016, 07:27:19 pm
Hi
Is there any chance of it on this side of the pennines ?
As I've mentioned before we have had no invites yet. I'm hoping we can travel to a variety of locations over time. So hopefully yes we can come to Lancs, that's if you LP have us gentle Yorkshire folk?

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 08, 2016, 07:55:04 pm
Thanks for the photos. A very impressive layout, indeed.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: port perran on August 08, 2016, 07:57:53 pm
Seconded. Very impressive indeed.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: The Cuckoo on August 08, 2016, 08:52:32 pm
I called in for a flying visit to the show on Saturday morning but ended up staying almost until the end! this was largely due to spending a long time admiring Northallerton, I have to say that the layout looks even better in person! You guys have done a wonderful job.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: njee20 on August 08, 2016, 09:05:57 pm
Certainly looks superb, well done!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on August 08, 2016, 09:34:32 pm
Hi
Is there any chance of it on this side of the pennines ?
As I've mentioned before we have had no invites yet. I'm hoping we can travel to a variety of locations over time. So hopefully yes we can come to Lancs, that's if you LP have us gentle Yorkshire folk?

Cheers
Kirky

True to the prototype the operating crew will have to depart at the Lancs/Yorks border and be replaced by indigenous layout operators >:D
What I find scary about your pics is I've seen at least 3 operators with their heads plugged into the mains. What's all that about, then? :confused2:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 08, 2016, 09:50:45 pm
What I fins scary about your pics is I've seen at least 3 operators with their heads plugged into the mains. What's all that about, then? :confused2:

Yep 

   we     are     all      robots      :bounce: :bounce:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 08, 2016, 09:55:07 pm
Actually when Ive reviewed those pctures its only Alan who has his head plugged in. There is a massive amount of irony about that since I spent most of Saturday getting him to understand how to use an iphone.

cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on August 08, 2016, 10:12:43 pm
Actually when Ive reviewed those pctures its only Alan who has his head plugged in. There is a massive amount of irony about that since I spent most of Saturday getting him to understand how to use an iphone.

cheers
Kirky

Pics 3, 4 and 8 Kirky. Maybe you should rename them all 'Roberts' :laugh:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 08, 2016, 10:27:07 pm
Yep, that is 'Alan the Robert' in all those pictures.

cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 09, 2016, 11:01:11 pm
A quick update.
We've been busy installing frog juicers. We have most of the scenic side completed. We've used the gaugemast dcc80 autofrog. There has been some controversy around the use of these little gizmos. For us it works, no more dead frogs.
Also we've been installing some signals.
This shows one of the berko signals using a Merg sensor to control. Train runs over light sensor and triggers green light. Train not over light sensor and signal is red. Works quite well.

the sensor - one sleeper removed.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/492-091016224920.jpeg)

green light
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/492-091016224947.jpeg)

red light
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/492-091016225029.jpeg)

And some bad news.
I've lost me cars. I had two curry boxes with cars vans, buses and lorries. I've lost them. Pretty sure I took them to the club and they've disappeared. So the next time we exhibit, we will be short of cars and vans.

Talking of which, our next exhibition outing is fairly local to us, at Spennymoor on Oct 29th and 30th.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 11, 2016, 10:03:37 pm
I've already posted this video and a couple of others in the TEA thread.
However I'm posting it again just to point out the working colour light signal. Automated with a merg pocket money kit.



Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 17, 2016, 05:29:28 pm
Just to say I've now found the cars.

However I have received some freebie cars from @GScaleBruce (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3603) .

I've documented the story here
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=34942.0;topicseen (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=34942.0;topicseen)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 23, 2016, 01:08:35 pm
I really like those working colour light signals, Kirky. I'm tempted to add a couple to Cant Cove, later, as there are no LSWR or SR semaphore signals available, at present. (After all the WR, when it took over Salisbury-Exeter from the SR, fitted colour light signals . . . ).
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 23, 2016, 11:49:05 pm
Thanks Chris. The one in the video is a berko one. It's nice, it works, but the ones we've been planting yesterday are the CR Signals ones. They are superb. I really wish I'd just used the CR ones because they are truly magnificent pieces of kit. And on top that we had a couple specially made as Northallerton is signalled 'wrong line' through the station. One of the those is a ground signal mounted on a post - odd but interesting.
I'll try and get some pictures done.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 24, 2016, 08:53:48 am
Thanks, Kirky. I do have at least one CR Signals colour light signal kit somewhere. I'd like to fit the sensors to activate the colour light signals like you've done. However, I also want to incorporate auto-stop and reverse to stop trains plunging off either end of Cant Cove's through line! Something for my landlord / engineer friend to think about over Christmas! 8-)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 24, 2016, 11:04:32 am
Are you a member of Merg Chris?  We've used pocket money kits for the sensors from merg. They cost a couple of quid for the kit, but obviously you have to build it yourself. And membership is reasonable I think at about £16 a year. And cheapish for you at the moment with the weakness of Stirling?
We've also bought some signal drivers for the more complicated four aspect signals which use SMD components. Very tiny little components they are too. Magnification a necessity. These cost about three pounds I think.
Advert for Merg over.

I tried to build a CR signal kit once. It was a long time ago and I should try again at some point. Very fine wire needed I recall. When it came to doing Northallerton it was going to be more time efficient to buy them ready made.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: njee20 on October 24, 2016, 11:42:54 am
The kits certainly are very small! Soldering SMDs concerns me!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 24, 2016, 11:52:47 am
The kits certainly are very small! Soldering SMDs concerns me!

I think I'll try and post some pictures.
The one I am doing currently is my first. It's not actually so bad. And at three quid for the kit, I think it's worth the money purely as a learning experience. I watched a few YouTube vids first and set too. Solder paste is my choice of weapon for this particular battle.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 28, 2016, 07:13:40 pm
We have been setting up the layout for the exhibition this weekend at Spennymoor, and here's hoping some forum members can make. Sadly, Northallerton is the only N gauge layout.
However, if you can't make it, and you can bothered with Facebook, we are intending to have a live feed on our Facebook page. Fingers crossed.
That'll be 10 till 4 BST on Saturday and
10 till 4 GMT ON Sunday.

Cheers
Kirky

Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on October 28, 2016, 08:19:12 pm
Good luck for the show, Kirky.
I'm sure you'll get plenty of interest.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 28, 2016, 08:44:59 pm
Good luck for the show, Kirky.
I'm sure you'll get plenty of interest.

Seconded. I'll look out for the video on Facebook.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bornin1980something on October 28, 2016, 09:04:44 pm
Kirky, you know I will be coming, and because you are there. You were kind to me when others appeared to be rejecting my project.

Just to say I've now found the cars.

However I have received some freebie cars from @GScaleBruce ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3603[/url]) .

I've documented the story here
[url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=34942.0;topicseen[/url] ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=34942.0;topicseen[/url])

Cheers
Kirky


So that's it. When I sent a message offering to loan you some rare models, I didn't know about this, and was surprised when you sent back a message that that was the second offer that week. I might still bring along the bag of models I brought to York though, just to show you. Since you are modern image modeller, and modern cars are notoriously hard to come by, I look forward to seeing your collection of cars, including the donated ones.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 28, 2016, 10:10:02 pm
Hi @Bornin1980something (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5537)
That's very kind of you. Really interested to see the cars.
Are you coming Saturday or Sunday?
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bornin1980something on October 28, 2016, 11:13:40 pm
Saturday, about 13:00.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 06, 2016, 11:54:49 am
We had a great time at Spennymoor last weekend. We learned a lot about operating Northallerton and realised we still have a lot to do.

We now have all scenic frogs "juiced". We've mainly used the gaugemaster auto frog, which is considerably cheaper and just as effective as the hex frog juicer. Most importantly however is the fact that we didn't have one frog failure on the scenic side of the layout. All frogs and points performed perfectly.

@GScaleBruce (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3603) sent me some cars to replace the lost vehicles. Embarrassingly I found the lost cars, but Bruce was happy for me to keep these. However, a couple might be taking a drive to The Czech Republic for @Chris in Prague (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895).

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/492-061116110942.jpeg)


It was great to meet @Bornin1980something (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5537).
He kindly brought models of cars and a wheelchair to show me. He kindly allowed us to display these on Northallerton.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/492-061116111537.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/492-061116111720.jpeg)

There are other pictures on our Facebook page.
I'll try and find a link for that, but I really find Farce book a nuisance.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on November 06, 2016, 12:58:50 pm
Saw the live footage on FB, really impressive running. However, it would have been nice to identify you @kirky (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=492) on the feed. I tried waving but no one waved back.😄
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: cornish yorkie on November 06, 2016, 01:11:47 pm
 :hellosign: Thanks for the  :greatpicturessign: of "Northallerton". I don`t do Facebook either so a video or a trip back up North sounds good
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on November 06, 2016, 02:10:39 pm
@Malc (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497)
Thanks Malcolm, glad you enjoyed the live feed on fb.
There are a couple of unedited pictures of me on our fb site. I wanted them to be airbrushed to make me look fatter, and you can see the results clearly. That's me holding the shield. Much thinner in real life tho', honest!

Cheers
kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on November 06, 2016, 10:11:06 pm
It's amazing the way that the camera piles on the pounds, isn't it.😄
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2016, 09:28:22 am
Thanks, Kirky, for the photos. and update. It seems to be a fine autumn in Northallerton with a nice variety of autumn colours. I look forward to seeing the new trees in due course.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Boroboy40 on May 19, 2017, 10:59:39 am
Hi all

Please visit our new website for the layout for up to date pictures and news of upcoming shows.

If anyone viewed the live feeds on Facebook is it worth doing again, please let me know

Website www.northallertonngauge.co.uk (http://www.northallertonngauge.co.uk)

Facebook www.facebook.com/northallertonngauge (http://www.facebook.com/northallertonngauge)

Thanks Dave
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 30, 2017, 01:08:24 pm
Apologies for the lack of updates. Here's one or two photos that show some of the developments over the last six months or so.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517123233-523132301.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517123229-52312402.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517123215-523112411.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517123209-52310427.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517123154-52309939.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517123149-523081525.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517123132-523072284.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517123111-523062389.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517123056-523051325.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517123035-523012102.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517123034-52301872.jpeg)

Enjoy.
Our next outing is at Shildon in October 2017.

Thanks
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 30, 2017, 01:46:30 pm
And a few more pics
A couple of night time pics included.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517131719-523281271.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517131713-52327643.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517131702-523261840.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517131645-523251993.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517131639-52324603.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517131612-5232210.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517131600-5232179.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517131542-523201028.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517131534-52319155.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517131519-523181773.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517131511-523171094.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517131500-523161999.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/492-300517131454-523141458.jpeg)

Enjoy

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Yet_Another on May 30, 2017, 02:06:57 pm
What a cracker!  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: red_death on May 30, 2017, 02:12:40 pm
Lovely work - looking forward to seeing it at an exhibition at some point.

Cheers, Mike
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on May 30, 2017, 03:33:35 pm
Wow, Kirky! That's some progress :goggleeyes:
You guys have captured that autumnal feel extremely well.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 30, 2017, 04:15:51 pm
Lovely work - looking forward to seeing it at an exhibition at some point.

Cheers, Mike
Im looking forard to running my Pendo on it.  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 30, 2017, 04:17:13 pm
Wow, Kirky! That's some progress :goggleeyes:
You guys have captured that autumnal feel extremely well.
Thanks Mick.
Unfortunately at the moment we're in the middle of dismantlingthe wiring to try and cure the dreaded servo twitch problem.

Cheers
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on May 30, 2017, 04:57:55 pm
Excellent work, Kirky. Loved the night time shots.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Milton Rail on May 30, 2017, 04:59:22 pm
Cracking photo's and superb modelling - Very impressed!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Mito on May 31, 2017, 09:47:14 pm
Is this any use? Taken from MERG's downloadable  book.
Kicking
It is well-known that most servos produce a 'kick' (an unwanted movement) when they are
first powered up. This is a feature of their internal electronics and is cleared in almost all
cases by soldering a 10k resistor between the servo's signal wire and the +5V supply line.
In some cases, it only effective if wired across the signal line and the 0V line.
Configuration of the control electronics can also minimise this effect.
Twitching
Unlike the kick, which only happens during power up, servo twitching occurs during the
running session.
This is almost always a result of external interference and can tackled by careful routing of
layout wires, or placing a capacitor between the signal wire signal and 0v to shunt away any
high frequency spikes on the signal wire.
Alternatively, the problem could be tackled at the servo controller end. If the servo needs to
keep pressure on, it requires the constant repetition of the incoming pulses. Otherwise, the
servo controller could be organised to stop sending pulses after a few seconds.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: scottmitchell74 on May 31, 2017, 10:39:04 pm
Awesome!  :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 31, 2017, 11:39:19 pm
Is this any use? Taken from MERG's downloadable  book.
Kicking
It is well-known that most servos produce a 'kick' (an unwanted movement) when they are
first powered up. This is a feature of their internal electronics and is cleared in almost all
cases by soldering a 10k resistor between the servo's signal wire and the +5V supply line.
In some cases, it only effective if wired across the signal line and the 0V line.
Configuration of the control electronics can also minimise this effect.
Twitching
Unlike the kick, which only happens during power up, servo twitching occurs during the
running session.
This is almost always a result of external interference and can tackled by careful routing of
layout wires, or placing a capacitor between the signal wire signal and 0v to shunt away any
high frequency spikes on the signal wire.
Alternatively, the problem could be tackled at the servo controller end. If the servo needs to
keep pressure on, it requires the constant repetition of the incoming pulses. Otherwise, the
servo controller could be organised to stop sending pulses after a few seconds.


Thanks for that Mito.
Its not actually of use, but very kind of you to point it out.
I am a Merg member and have followed very carefully discussions on chatter and twitching. We are using Merg's Servo4 boards to operate the servos. It is well known that interference can cause twitching. There have been extensive discussions on RMWeb.
Essentially we have put our issues down to bad wiring. We have used some very dodgy techniques in order to cut corners, and learned to our cost that a bit of planning would have saved us a lot of work.

Thanks for the interest though.

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Innovationgame on June 01, 2017, 07:04:13 am
I love the picture of the level crossing and the bridge.  I passed my driving test in Northallerton and, in those days, (1963) that was the main road into Northallerton from Leeming Bar.  The traffic lights under the bridge were the only traffic lights in the town, so couldn't be used for the test and the hill start must have been on a 1 in 200, so it was a good place to take the test.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on June 01, 2017, 08:54:28 am
I love the picture of the level crossing and the bridge.  I passed my driving test in Northallerton and, in those days, (1963) that was the main road into Northallerton from Leeming Bar.  The traffic lights under the bridge were the only traffic lights in the town, so couldn't be used for the test and the hill start must have been on a 1 in 200, so it was a good place to take the test.
Hi Laurence
Many many thanks for that. We really love it when we get people telling us their stories of Northallerton. At our last open day we had someone who said he used to have one of the allotments which was great, and he said he remembered  lots of features of the railway from times gone by.
In 1963 (the year of my birth incidently) the dairy was rail served and we have some lovely shots of this from the air. Interestingly it was rail served from the upper mainline rather than the lower avoiding lines. Sadly the dairy is no longer there. They knocked it down about five years ago. I believe it has houses on that site now.
Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 30, 2017, 06:45:21 pm
A little bit of an update by way of a few pictures of things we have been doing on Northallerton, ready for our next outing, which is on October 7th/8th at Shildon, at the National Railway Museum. I believe entry is free!

We've done a few electrical things and finally sorted the dreaded servo twitch. Not much to see there though.

On the scenic side we've added a couple of CCTV cameras for the level crossings.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/492-300817082517.jpeg)

You can have a look in the gallery for a couple more pictures showing how I made the cameras.

We also added some gas bottles to one of the factories at the back of the layout. You can see in the picture that the building is not yet fixed to the layout - the giveaway being the dreaded gap at the bottom. Gas bottles and cage are from the excellent Peedie models.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/492-300817082924.jpeg)

We tarted up the houses by adding downpipes and giving tehm a little extra paint.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/492-300817083137.jpeg)

And a view the punter wont usually see
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/492-300817083237.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/492-300817085135.jpeg)

And we finally got round to filling in a gap at the back of the layout. Mainly this is unseen by the viewing public but we decided we wanted it to be nice for the operators to view too.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/492-300817100512.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/492-300817100857.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/492-300817101158.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/492-300817182246.jpeg)

That is one of a range of houses from the very excellent Severn Models, as are the other houses shown here.

Not too far away from finishing now. Just some major electrics to do - electrifying the fiddle yard points and a couple more scenic items and we are done.

Cheers
Kirky


Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: weave on August 30, 2017, 08:03:06 pm
Hi,

All looks fantastic. Have a great time at the show. Way too far North for me  :(.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: port perran on August 30, 2017, 08:24:59 pm
Agree with Weave. Looks really good.
Shame it's too far for me to travel as well.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 30, 2017, 08:36:39 pm
Sorry, I forgot to mention that you can see Northallerton operating at our next Open Day on 23rd September, 10-4, £1 for one days membership.
Cleveland Model Railway Club, beehive centre, Skelton, Cleveland.

Come and have a little play if you like.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on August 30, 2017, 09:23:52 pm
Thanks for the update, Kirky. Very impressive buildings/gardens :thumbsup:
You really need to make some curtains for your buildings, but it might be easier to put 'For Sale' or 'To Let' signs outside them :D
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 31, 2017, 07:43:47 am
Hi @Mick
You really need to make some curtains for your buildings


Funny you should say that. We've been experimenting...I'm not convinced we have this right yet.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/492-310817073606.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/492-310817074233.jpeg)

Not the best pictures but I think you get the idea.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 07, 2017, 07:17:38 am
Morning Folks
Just to say Northallerton is appearing at The Shildon Model Railway Exhibition today and tomorrow, at the National Railway Museum in SHILDON. We are located in between the APT.
Entrance and parking is FREE :-))

Cheers
Kirky.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: weave on October 07, 2017, 07:35:14 am
Morning Kirky,

As I've said before too far north for me but just a quick question from a Southerner, what does this word FREE mean?Never 'eard of it  :no: Northern slang perhaps?

Hope you have a great 2 days. Pics please obviously.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: The Cuckoo on October 08, 2017, 10:20:28 pm
This is the second time that I've had the pleasure of seeing Northallerton. I must of gone back to look at it 3 or 4 times yesterday, a truly inspiring layout!

Link to an article in the local press about the show (even has a photo of Alan, complete with sunglasses)  8)

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/15583502.Pictures__Thousands_attend_31st_model_railway_exhibition_at_Locomotion/ (http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/15583502.Pictures__Thousands_attend_31st_model_railway_exhibition_at_Locomotion/)




Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 11, 2017, 07:50:10 am
Hi Cuckoo
Thanks for the link to the article. And of course many thanks for your kind words about the layout.

Not only is there a posed picture of Alan, there is also a (terrible) picture of your truly. Thats me, hands on hips looking quite cros, at least thats how my 5 years old daughter descibed me.

Thanks again, and glad you enjoyed the layout.
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: njee20 on October 11, 2017, 08:29:49 am
There’s a very NSFW cartoon from the Oatmeal which epitomises that Northern Echo site here (http://theoatmeal.com/comics/mobile_website). Utterly woeful!

I’m sure the photos of the layout are good though! Still hope to see it sometime, certainly looks the part here.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on April 01, 2018, 04:55:56 pm
A little bit of an update to Northallerton

We decided we would electrify the points in the fiddle yard, making operation much more straight forward for the train drivers. We've started with the fast fiddle yards, which meant lisfting all the points at the north end of the yard.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/492-010418164130.jpeg)

We have about 60 point motors to install. All servos, all operated by Merg Servo 4s. Ive built 16 servo4s and they are ready to go. Also we have the job of installing the servos onto the merg 3d printed servo mounts.
We hope to have the fast fiddle yard completed by the time we hit or open day, on April 29th.

We must have the slow line fiddle yards completed by July ready for our appearance at RalEx NE and at our own exhibition in Redcar on the first weekend in August.
More progress pictures to follow.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: DaveGlew on April 01, 2018, 05:00:17 pm
No pressure then.........with that many points and motors let's hope the modelling gremlins stay away.  :)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Malc on April 01, 2018, 09:36:38 pm
Just a quick question @kirky (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=492) how is the Skinningrove Zig Zag project going?
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on April 01, 2018, 09:48:44 pm
Hi @Malc (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497)
Its not great news I'm afraid.
The building that it is supposed to be housed in, has not yet been built. The spec of that building is not yet decided, and as far as I can tell, this is what determines how big the model will be. There are a few alternatives but it is unlikely to be the 40 foot monster that was originally planned. I should say that this is just hearsay, and I have no way of verifying what I am saying as I have no direct connection to the project. I know that some of our members (Cleveland MRC) are becoming very frustrated with the project, and that this is not down to the club.
Hopefully there will be some news soon. I'll let you know.

(And for anyone thinking that the zig zag would be modelled in N, sorry to disappoint, but its in a different scale. It would have been an interesting 2 mil model in my opinion)
cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on April 06, 2018, 09:11:44 am
A bit more from under the boards...

This is the folded up section of the middle board. It shows the one end of the fast and slow fiddle yards. The slow yards are the sections nearest the edges of the board. The fast yards are in the middle. Apologies for the dirtiness of the board, at sometime when we have a little less to do, it will be painted. The one downside of using plastazote as a track base is the colour it has gone. Its filthy. Probably should have chosen a better colour like black.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/492-040418232220.jpeg)

This is the underside of that board showing all the point motors, servos in merg brackets. The boards they are connected to are merg servo 4 boards. They need power and switches attaching, and then need testing. Hopefully completed in the next couple of weeks as we have our open day at the end of this month, April 29th.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/492-040418231958.jpeg)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 11, 2018, 04:37:24 pm
Just a couple of photos to share of Northallerton with the track tamper I built. This is the 3 d kit from modern image models. Its been sitting incompleted for a couple of years while I did other stuff. Finished now though. Not great pictures I'm afraid, but you get the idea.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/492-110518161136.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/492-110518161205.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/492-110518161236.jpeg)

cheers

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on May 11, 2018, 07:06:45 pm
This is just an excuse to post this.
Pendo on Northallerton.

https://youtu.be/s4n6zJT6RQQ
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 10, 2018, 04:21:40 pm
I hope I am not breaking forum rules by advertising the August edition of The Modeller.   :goggleeyes:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/492-100718161629.jpeg)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: njee20 on July 10, 2018, 04:27:49 pm
Awesome! Great photo. Hope you're happy with the article.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 10, 2018, 04:31:42 pm
Awesome! Great photo. Hope you're happy with the article.
If I'm not happy with it, I only have myself to blame - I wrote it!
I cant take credit for the photos though. They are indeed awesome.
Ive seen a pdf version a couple of months ago, and itll be interesting to see what its like in print, when it lands on the door mat.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on July 10, 2018, 04:33:28 pm
Excellent :claphappy:
I shall be picking up my copy on Thursday
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 10, 2018, 04:47:59 pm
Awesome! Great photo. Hope you're happy with the article.

Seconded!
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Milton Rail on July 11, 2018, 07:14:10 am
Superb - front cover too!  Brilliant news   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: belstone on July 11, 2018, 08:06:10 am
Really looking forward to reading this.  Well done.

Richard
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 11, 2018, 10:00:06 am
realistic modelling of the ecml station and a fabulous well written read in the railway modeller magazine
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Train Waiting on July 12, 2018, 07:45:38 pm
Congratulations on a splendid article and excellent photographs in this month's Railway Modeller.

The magazine has a lot to interest the 'N' gauge modeller.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 12, 2018, 08:44:30 pm
Congratulations on a splendid article and excellent photographs in this month's Railway Modeller.
Thanks for the positive feedback John, most appreciated.
As noted elsewhere I can’t take credit for the photos.
Thanks again
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 13, 2018, 06:12:50 pm
superb evening scenes
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Ryanontherails on July 13, 2018, 06:28:31 pm
Wow what a fantastic layout!! I don’t usually purchase Railway Moddeller but think it will be worth a buy for this. Great job
Ryan.
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 13, 2018, 10:35:40 pm
superb evening scenes

Hi @crewearpley40 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3894)
Thanks for the kind comments. They aren't really supposed to be evening scenes just kind of an overcast autumn day. I suppose we have the lights on but we just like it that way. Still, I was believe that art is in the eye of the beholder, and if thats what you see, then that is how it is.
Thanks again
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 13, 2018, 10:37:04 pm
Wow what a fantastic layout!! I don’t usually purchase Railway Moddeller but think it will be worth a buy for this. Great job
Ryan.

@Ryanontherails (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5799)
Thats very kind words indeed. Most appreciated.

cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 13, 2018, 10:45:01 pm
@Newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) @Tank (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and other mods and owners
I feel I owe the forum a bit of an apology.  :sorrysign:
I think my shout out to the forum got lost in the edits. My excuse is that I had a limited number of words and somehwere my comments regarding support from the forum was cut. I must emphasise I did the edit, and RM have published the article almost word for word.
So please would yould you all indulge me now; I am more than grateful to the encouragement and support from members of the forum. Some of you have persisted with this right from the beginning.  :thankyousign:

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Newportnobby on July 14, 2018, 12:38:49 pm
It's great to see 'Northallerton' keeping up the tradition of supplying quality NGF layouts to Railway Modeller. Methinks @Tank (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2) should be thinking of a commission fee for the forum :)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 26, 2018, 10:46:40 pm
Just a reminder that Northallerton will be appearing at Railex in North shields over the forthcoming weekend. Please come and say hello.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: daveg on July 27, 2018, 09:10:10 am
Too far for me to attend but hope the show is a success.  :beers:

Dave G
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bealman on July 27, 2018, 09:26:19 am
Good luck with the show. As an ex-local lad, I'd be there if I could.

Piccies please!  :beers:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 28, 2018, 06:34:47 am
Ill try George, but cant promise anything. Im afraid I have to keep the team in order. They texted me last night at about 7 pm to say they were on their fourth pint! If they kept that up all night, i'll be by myself!

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bealman on July 28, 2018, 07:19:20 am
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: belstone on July 30, 2018, 09:22:58 am
Really impressed by this layout at Railex NE yesterday.  It's bigger than it looks in the photos, a proper club exhibition layout with a good team of operators making sure there was always something going on.  Some of the other layouts there seemed to be running "Sunday service" but not this one.  Many thanks to @kirky (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=492) for showing me round "behind the scenes".

Richard
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on July 30, 2018, 10:07:58 am
Lovely to meet you yesterday Richard.
Thanks for the support, much appreciated.

I trust you enjoyed Fencehouses which I hope wasn’t running Sunday services.

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 03, 2018, 07:33:03 pm
Just a heads up. Its our exhibition this weekend (details below). We will be running the PCF coaches on Northallerton if you want to see them. You might need to ask someone to send the excursion train round. It could be steam hauled or more likely a class 40.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on August 03, 2018, 10:31:21 pm
Apparently we will be live on Facebook and Youtube tomorrow. People who cant make it can watch from afar  :goggleeyes:

@Bealman (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) I promise I will take photos this weekend. I'll have my camera with my for the PCF competition anyway  :D

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: weave on August 04, 2018, 11:05:40 am
Hi Kirky,

Glad the PCF coaches arrived OK. I hadn't heard anything so presumed as was well.

You're probably there now but good luck with the show and with the competition.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bealman on October 08, 2018, 05:02:56 am
Hi Kirky, look what I found in the local newsagents today!

Great article and pics!!  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/255-081018045636.jpeg)
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 08, 2018, 04:46:38 pm
@Bealman (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255)
Hi George, thank you so much for the kind words. Great to know that we have finally reached Oz.
Its about four months since my copy dropped through my letter box: is it usual for UK publications in Australia to be so late?

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bealman on October 08, 2018, 09:50:11 pm
No, we get them express post, but they are A$15. After a while, the newsagent drops the price to A$10! I just happened to see it peeking out on the shelf and grabbed it immediately, as I thought I'd missed that issue!

Once again, a great article. Congratulations!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 10, 2018, 07:02:21 pm
Ive been having a play with turmeric.

We are in the process of building a farm. I have a few farm building which are supposed to represent modern farm building. I thought I would try and use propriety models so here I have the Severn models stable building and a couple of kestrel cow sheds. These particular buildings are supposed to be old and pretty rough shape as is often the case on a farm. I've tried to create some lichen covered roofs, using turmeric. I may have overdone it, but I wont really know until the buildings are planted on the layout. Anyway have a look and of course any criticism is always welcome. The lichen on the longer cow shed building hasn't been brushed off yet.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/492-101018184923.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/492-101018185104.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/492-101018185245.jpeg)

cheers

Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: daveg on October 10, 2018, 07:04:52 pm
I think the roofs look good.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: GreyWolf on October 11, 2018, 07:05:54 am
What a brilliantly tasteful idea! They look really good. Excellent tip ... Thanks.  :claphappy:

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: Bealman on October 11, 2018, 08:14:27 am
Turmeric? As in the stuff that comes out of the spice jar in the kitchen?

Great idea! Does it smell ok? Hope it doesn't get viewers sneezing!  :beers:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 11, 2018, 10:38:59 am
Thanks guys.
Yep its turmeric, borrowed from the spice rack in the kitchen. Just had sort of one of them moments when you catch yourself staring at the colour of roofs and thinking that looks like the colour of turmeric. And I know from cooking with it that it can be a bit of swine for staining things you dont want it to.
It does smell a bit when applying but not an unpleasant smell. Certainly a more pleasant smell than I usually have in my train room.  :goggleeyes:

cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: GreyWolf on October 11, 2018, 01:04:49 pm
Hmmm  :hmmm:
Turmeric over a dusting of smoked paprika, and a sprinkle of nutmeg!

How do you *fix* it Kirky?

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Northallerton
Post by: kirky on October 11, 2018, 08:12:58 pm
Tbh I havent 'fixed' the turmeric at all. I want to see what it looks like in situ first which wont be till next week. I guess I'll just use matt varnish if I use anything at all.
The application method was simply to use watered down pva and paint the glue onto the roof randomly and then pat on the turmeric with an old paint brush. Leave to dry and brush off excess.

I am tempted to try other spices, I must say.
Cheers
Kirky