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Title: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 18, 2013, 03:29:40 pm
This is the August 17th list No 70, as members get more up to date lists could they post in this thread

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Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: 4x2 on September 18, 2013, 05:36:12 pm
This is the August 17th list No 70, as members get more up to date lists could they post in this thread

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Each and every one of those loco's is a bargain, the 0-8-0's are the best of the bunch - smooth, powerful and trundle round a 9" curve like it isn't there. Detail is a bit basic, but even the manufacturer suggests you should detail and weather it... could you imagine Farish or Dapol saying that ? 

Highly recommended !  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 18, 2013, 07:37:19 pm
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Each and every one of those loco's is a bargain, the 0-8-0's are the best of the bunch - smooth, powerful and trundle round a 9" curve like it isn't there. Detail is a bit basic, but even the manufacturer suggests you should detail and weather it... could you imagine Farish or Dapol saying that ? 

For most UM I renumber (or ask Colin for un-numbered ones) I also add vac pipes, lamp irons and in some cases remove the coupling rods and file to slim them down a bit. I've now got some SR head code discs awaiting painting  I don't normally go as far as handrails though.

The 0395 has the same tender as the T9 and 700 which are Drummond type, so a few tweaks needed there, not a perfect Adams one, but recognisable.

For the T9 I asked for a loco in primer as I intended a major hack with a milling machine and Colin obliged giving a slight reduction even. I also use his tender drives to power some kit and scratch built locos.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: johnlambert on September 20, 2013, 10:09:51 pm
I saw some UM locos in action at TINGS and was impressed by how well they ran.  I'd like to add a Union Mills engine to my collection but my main interest is BR Western Region.  Maybe I could sneak in a 2P or 7F?

Does anyone know if it is easy/possible to fit Dapol magnetic couplings to these locos?
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 20, 2013, 10:38:04 pm
Keep a lookout for a non runner GWR 4-6-0 with dead motor or split gears, a PD Marsh  kit and a UM tender drive, strip the Farish motor off leaving just the chassis to put under the Marsh loco body kit, put the UM tender drive into the Marsh tender body. Marsh do a few  GWR loco kits

Moguls, Grange, Manor, Star and County

http://www.pdmarshmodels.com/product_list.php?gauge=%27N%27&cat2=%2710%27 (http://www.pdmarshmodels.com/product_list.php?gauge=%27N%27&cat2=%2710%27)

Alternatively retain the Farish loco body and just get a P D Marsh tender 3,500 or 4,000 gallon to suit the loco and fit the UM drive. You probably need to use the Farish tender underframe/axle boxes as the P D Marsh body expects to fit on a Farish tender chassis. pick up the electrical feed from the wheels on the same side of the loco as the tender has tyres.

Reason for using the Marsh kit tender is for the weight, you may be  able to fit it in the Farish tender body, but pulling power would be reduced

To reduce friction on the loco wheels to a minimum remove the now unused pick ups.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 21, 2013, 01:21:46 pm
I saw some UM locos in action at TINGS and was impressed by how well they ran.  I'd like to add a Union Mills engine to my collection but my main interest is BR Western Region.  Maybe I could sneak in a 2P or 7F?

A T9 made it to Birmingham .. admittedly only ever once 8)


Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 21, 2013, 02:46:52 pm
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A T9 made it to Birmingham .. admittedly only ever once
???????????

Acording to Bradley in "The Drummond Greyhounds of the LSWR" (Page 89) Bournemouth shed between 1925 and 1930 rostered T9s for cross country turns to GWR territory via Reading "this regularly took one of Bournemouth's engines as far north as Birmingham Show Hill with loads between 8 and 11 bogie coaches" On Saturday July 28 1926 288 had the main 10 coach train, followed by 118 with a further 7 coaches of GWR stock. Also  for some years 285 713/27/9 daily worked between Salisbury and Bristol,  and up to WW2 T9s frequently took Excursions to Weston Super Mud.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 21, 2013, 03:03:18 pm
That I didn't know about - but the case I was referring to was in BR days. I didn't know it occurred pre BR and to timetable.

Alan
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: mr bachmann on October 17, 2013, 04:09:47 pm
I see the recent add in Railway Modeler shows last times new loco , shame realy ?

alan
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: painbrook on October 18, 2013, 05:21:46 pm
I see the recent add in Railway Modeler shows last times new loco , shame realy ?
Lost me there Alan. Cheers john.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: keithfre on October 18, 2013, 06:41:49 pm
I see the recent add in Railway Modeler shows last times new loco , shame realy ?
Lost me too!
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: MikeDunn on October 18, 2013, 07:18:14 pm
Well, every word is in English ... OK, nearly every word  ::)

But yes, I'd like a translation too
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: painbrook on October 20, 2013, 06:30:28 pm
Come on Alan, what was your point?. Cheers john.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Agrafarfan on October 20, 2013, 07:09:30 pm
I didn't realise they are metal die cast models, good value. Their advert in the Railway Modeller magazine advertises 2 of them on page 52a. I think you can only buy them by phone though.

I think I might get one 1 of these days.

Ian
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Agrippa on October 21, 2013, 12:56:33 am
I bought mine by phone , sent a cheque. very straightforward and quick service, I think you can also  do it
by credit card, proprietor is most friendly and efficient. You can't have too many UM locos!
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Irish Padre on October 21, 2013, 07:44:55 am
Union Mills locos are ace - just think of them as Hornby-Dublo for N gauge: characterful rather than highly detailed perhaps but they will run and run. My latest has just arrived / an LNWR 'Prince of Wales' 4-6-0, 'Lusitania' - delightful ! 
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: mr bachmann on October 22, 2013, 08:04:01 pm
I see the recent add in Railway Modeler shows last times new loco , shame realy ?
Lost me there Alan. Cheers john.

right guys , UM has got a new loco due out mid November - so why try and sell your old stock ?
after all if you just forked out 70 quid , you aint gona fork out another in a couple of weeks - er that is unless your a poor hard up pensioner  :-X =  :veryangry:


alan


Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: mr bachmann on October 22, 2013, 08:06:27 pm
Union Mills locos are ace - just think of them as Hornby-Dublo for N gauge: characterful rather than highly detailed perhaps but they will run and run. My latest has just arrived / an LNWR 'Prince of Wales' 4-6-0, 'Lusitania' - delightful !

photos please , and livery options would be nice ..
thanks



alan
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: oreamnos on October 22, 2013, 08:23:31 pm
I didn't realise they are metal die cast models, good value. Their advert in the Railway Modeller magazine advertises 2 of them on page 52a. I think you can only buy them by phone though.

I think I might get one 1 of these days.

Ian

Not true only by phone.  You can email Colin at colin.h@manx.net.  If you're squeamish about putting your credit card details in an email, phoning would be more secure, but I've got 13 UM locos now and all of them have been bought by contacting Colin through email.

Matt
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: binksforbikes on October 22, 2013, 09:35:12 pm
Hi can you get Union Mills models with late crest

Thank you
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Roy L S on October 22, 2013, 09:48:13 pm
Hi can you get Union Mills models with late crest

Thank you

No, for some reason he has only ever done early crest.

Regards

Roy
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: oreamnos on October 22, 2013, 11:27:49 pm
Union Mills locos are ace - just think of them as Hornby-Dublo for N gauge: characterful rather than highly detailed perhaps but they will run and run. My latest has just arrived / an LNWR 'Prince of Wales' 4-6-0, 'Lusitania' - delightful !

Oh that's an awful tease!  Do share more!  The price list that came with your model, does it indicate which four liveries the new loco is available in?  Also, what is the price?

Many thanks.

Matt
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Irish Padre on October 23, 2013, 06:33:02 am
Sorry - wasn't meaning to tease! I will try and post a photo later. Price is 82 and it comes in 4 liveries : LNWR black as 'Mark Twain', LMS red as 'Enchantress', LMS black unnamed , and BR black as 'Lusitania'. The last one is a bit dubious as the original loco was on BR's books briefly but never actually received its BR number and livery before scrapping. However, Rule 1 clearly applies in this case and I don't think it's too great a leap of imagination to pretend that the loco was given a reprieve and survived into the late 50s.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Trev on October 23, 2013, 09:04:22 am
Dam!
That's me succumbing to temptation then - LMS red for me.

Thanks for posting this information, would love to see a photo.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: msr on October 23, 2013, 11:00:35 am
I've started a new thread on the Prince of Wales but to whet your appetite here are some photos. These include three of the new Prince of Wales (one each in LNWR black, LMS red and BR black) plus 25694 in LMS plain black which is an older model, converted from a Union Mills Holden B12/3 with the tender cut down to represent the Bowen-Cooke style:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7720.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7720)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7719.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7719)

Mike
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: CarriageShed on October 23, 2013, 12:38:36 pm
Worryingly, 5604 looks more like James the Red Engine than an LMS Crimson Lake example...  :(


PS: Mike, do you have some stray html code in your post that might be confusing the page layout? It seems to be the only page that looks a little messed-up.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Irish Padre on October 23, 2013, 12:43:09 pm
Yes, I've never found that red colour especially convincing on his locos really. Its a pity, as 'Mark Twain is arguably the finest ready-to-run Pre-Grouping loco yet available in N. Who would ever have predicted a lined-out LNWR express loco?
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list List 71 (23/10/13)
Post by: MinZaPint on October 30, 2013, 12:28:28 pm
List 71 (23/10/13) arrived with my Adams 0395 this morning

(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb474/minzapint/UnionMillsPriceList001_zpseb9cf6b8.jpg) (http://s1207.photobucket.com/user/minzapint/media/UnionMillsPriceList001_zpseb9cf6b8.jpg.html)

Cheers David
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: CarriageShed on October 30, 2013, 01:43:59 pm
If only it hadn't come down to a choice between several tins of Dulux paint and several Union Mills locos...  :(
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: KTM on November 03, 2013, 07:44:10 pm
I like the look of these locos. Do they do anything GWR?

Ken
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Dorsetmike on November 03, 2013, 07:59:39 pm
Afraid not Ken, there are not many GWR tender locos not already available RTR

They all look the same  anyway   (http://www.freesmileys.org/custom/image/blush%5E_%5Earial%5E_%5E0%5E_%5E0%5E_%5ETONGUE%20IN%20CHEEK%5E_%5E.gif)
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: BernardTPM on November 03, 2013, 09:03:14 pm
An inside frame Dean Goods would be a good one for them to do, basically pre-grouping GWR but survived right through to BR day by which time they were the only pre-Churchward type left.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: painbrook on November 14, 2013, 08:06:35 pm
Hi can you get Union Mills models with late crest

Thank you
I've only checked a few locos, I think its because most/all would have been withdrawn by that time. Cheers john
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: painbrook on November 14, 2013, 08:18:00 pm
Dam!
That's me succumbing to temptation then - LMS red for me.

Thanks for posting this information, would love to see a photo.
Well Trev was you disappointed?. Cheers john.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Trev on November 14, 2013, 08:21:52 pm
Haven't managed to splash out on one as yet due to SHMBOs financial plans for Christmas :(  Mind you, I have been good this year (only aquired 14 locos  :-[ :-X) so maybe the man in the red suit might drop one down my chimney
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Hailstone on November 15, 2013, 12:57:22 am
although I model the Western Region, I would be seriously tempted if they made a Claud Hamilton, not an outrageous idea as they already make theB12
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: painbrook on November 15, 2013, 07:28:02 pm
Asked Colin, what he had in the pipeline, is answer,, nothing at the moment but it will probably be a LNER loco.
I've still not quite got over that :'(. Cheers john.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Agrippa on November 15, 2013, 07:35:01 pm
Must get another!
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: mr bachmann on November 15, 2013, 08:15:20 pm
a North British Glen would be nice , or a Holden E4 ?


mr bachmann
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Roy L S on November 15, 2013, 08:36:58 pm
a North British Glen would be nice , or a Holden E4 ?


mr bachmann

I suggested a D34 "Glen" to him some time ago, I would be soooo happy if he did one of those :)
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: keerout on January 20, 2014, 11:25:48 am
Hi everyone,
Here is the new UM pricelist (15/01)
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Gerard  :wave:
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: CarriageShed on January 20, 2014, 01:49:12 pm
Yum!  :envy:
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: gelboy45 on January 20, 2014, 02:26:36 pm
A Southern ex SE&CR 4-4-0 perhaps?

Gerry
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: shandy on January 20, 2014, 03:50:10 pm
Well, I've finally succumbed, just been on the phone to Union Mills and ordered a J25 in LNER Black, seems a very helpful and friendly chap and said he'll include some information on conversions to DCC.

I've never had one of these locos before and thought I had to give it a go after all the good reports on the forum.

Looking forward to getting it 8)
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: mr bachmann on January 20, 2014, 04:05:40 pm
hi shandy , wish you well with your new loco - word of warning - dont let it insight of DCC anologe running , run in on 12 volt DC  , if DCC comes in contact with un chipped Union Mills - motor will burn out within 2 seconds .




alan
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: CarriageShed on January 20, 2014, 05:36:41 pm
A Southern ex SE&CR 4-4-0 perhaps?

Gerry

Ooo, yes please!
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: shandy on January 20, 2014, 08:29:12 pm
hi shandy , wish you well with your new loco - word of warning - dont let it insight of DCC anologe running , run in on 12 volt DC  , if DCC comes in contact with un chipped Union Mills - motor will burn out within 2 seconds .




alan

Hi Alan, thanks for the info.

I won't subject it to DCC before it's chipped. I don't have a DC layout anymore but I have a switchable test track/rolling road that I use to test new locos.

Not sure what chip to put in it, I guess it depends on the space I can get in the tender.

Cheers Steve
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: mr bachmann on January 21, 2014, 03:51:25 pm


Hi Alan, thanks for the info.

I won't subject it to DCC before it's chipped. I don't have a DC layout anymore but I have a switchable test track/rolling road that I use to test new locos.

Not sure what chip to put in it, I guess it depends on the space I can get in the tender.

Cheers Steve
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the Digitrax DZ 125 will fit , most of my early attempts (as per the fitting sheets that i compiled for UM locos) i used the early Hornby R8249 as its only contolling the motor , you can safly remove unwanted wires . The Bachmann 6 pin decoder and 'flying' lead + socket is to big to fit inside the tender comfortably .


alan
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: shandy on January 21, 2014, 08:49:38 pm



the Digitrax DZ 125 will fit , most of my early attempts (as per the fitting sheets that i compiled for UM locos) i used the early Hornby R8249 as its only contolling the motor , you can safly remove unwanted wires . The Bachmann 6 pin decoder and 'flying' lead + socket is to big to fit inside the tender comfortably .


alan
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Thanks again Alan, I'll try and get hold of a DZ125, I've got a couple of locos fitted with those and they seem pretty good. Looking forward to getting the loco, it should be waiting at home when I get back towards the end of the week :)
Title: Union Mills 2014 New Release
Post by: surfaceman on February 10, 2014, 09:41:10 pm
Hi,

It now seems that the next Union Mills model will indeed be a Claud Hamilton D16/3 4-4-0. No word on livery, but I suspect it'll be offered in LNER green and BR black. 

It should be available around July / August, so better get saving!

Martin

PS. How about a J15 next?
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Hailstone on February 11, 2014, 12:39:20 am
I do hope that's right as I would like one of these as much as a Dean goods

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Union Mills 2014 New Release
Post by: Roy L S on February 11, 2014, 12:11:26 pm
Hi,

It now seems that the next Union Mills model will indeed be a Claud Hamilton D16/3 4-4-0. No word on livery, but I suspect it'll be offered in LNER green and BR black. 

It should be available around July / August, so better get saving!

Martin

PS. How about a J15 next?

If this is indeed correct a D16/3 is a great choice of loco.

I will definitely have a BR one. I wonder how much od a compromise the tender will have to be though.

I totally agree a J15 would make a perfect partner for it and i'd have one of those too!

Roy
Title: Re: Union Mills 2014 New Release
Post by: Paul B on February 11, 2014, 07:42:48 pm
Hi,

It now seems that the next Union Mills model will indeed be a Claud Hamilton D16/3 4-4-0. No word on livery, but I suspect it'll be offered in LNER green and BR black. 

It should be available around July / August, so better get saving!

Martin

PS. How about a J15 next?

If this is indeed correct a D16/3 is a great choice of loco.

I will definitely have a BR one. I wonder how much of a compromise the tender will have to be though.

I totally agree a J15 would make a perfect partner for it and i'd have one of those too!

Roy

Brilliant news! As I like to model the ex-GER section of the LNER, a Claude of any sort is something I have dreamed of being able to get at some time!  :) I have a kit and a GF chassis to make one too, but that is in the 'to do' box...  :-[ 

Last time I ordered from Union Mills I asked about a J15, as Colin is a GER fan - he said that he would love to be able to do one, but his present motors wouldn't fit into the small J15 tender. Maybe a project for future years though, with a smaller motor?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Union Mills 2014 New Release
Post by: shandy on February 11, 2014, 08:58:31 pm
Hi,

It now seems that the next Union Mills model will indeed be a Claud Hamilton D16/3 4-4-0. No word on livery, but I suspect it'll be offered in LNER green and BR black. 

It should be available around July / August, so better get saving!

Martin

PS. How about a J15 next?

Well I'll be having one of those in LNER green then :thumbsup:

The UM J25 I acquired earlier this month is superb.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Roy L S on February 23, 2014, 12:21:49 pm
I e-mailed Colin Heard the other day.

He has replied and confirms his next model will definitely be a D16/3.

He mentioned tooling for a new tender of a later pattern too big for a J15. I thought the D16/3s only ran with the short GE tender - Am I wrong?

Roy
Title: Re: Union Mills 2014 New Release
Post by: Les1952 on February 28, 2014, 08:46:36 pm


Brilliant news! As I like to model the ex-GER section of the LNER, a Claude of any sort is something I have dreamed of being able to get at some time!  :) I have a kit and a GF chassis to make one too, but that is in the 'to do' box...  :-[ 

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If you are modelling the GE in LNER days you could always justify a Union Mills J27.  Twelve were sent to the GE in the mid-twenties instead of new J39s diverted elsewhere.  In 1939 they had all moved to Grantham, and back to the NE in 1940.

All the very best
Les
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Paul B on February 28, 2014, 09:12:40 pm
Oh yes - it is on my 'to buy' list, after I read about it here - http://www.lner.info/locos/J/j27.shtml (http://www.lner.info/locos/J/j27.shtml) (I am on the LNER forum as Paul B too!)  Unfortunately, my 'to buy' list is longer than my 'money available' list...  :'(  I do already have a UM J39 and a B12 though!
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Les1952 on February 28, 2014, 11:28:52 pm
Oh yes - it is on my 'to buy' list, after I read about it here - [url]http://www.lner.info/locos/J/j27.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.lner.info/locos/J/j27.shtml[/url]) (I am on the LNER forum as Paul B too!)  Unfortunately, my 'to buy' list is longer than my 'money available' list...  :'(  I do already have a UM J39 and a B12 though!


Shame that- I've just sold one of my two ER J27s and repainted the other into BR.  Trevor Webster sold the layout they ran on so they were surplus.

All the very best
Les
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: talisman56 on March 07, 2014, 03:09:45 pm
Current UM price list as enclosed with my recent order:

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Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: CarriageShed on March 07, 2014, 05:34:05 pm
Currently saving up for a Southern Railways T9. Hopefully the price won't change before I get there.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: talisman56 on March 07, 2014, 05:39:38 pm
Currently saving up for a Southern Railways T9. Hopefully the price won't change before I get there.

I wanted a T9 as well... Waiting for the BR Black one to become available again - might also get a Southern Green one to keep my M7 company...
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: CarriageShed on March 08, 2014, 12:18:05 am
I wanted a T9 as well... Waiting for the BR Black one to become available again - might also get a Southern Green one to keep my M7 company...

The green T9 is enough for me, although I might repaint it in time. In the photos I've seen, UM's green doesn't look entirely accurate. Add the Adams 0395 in Southern black and my SR stud will begin to have some real backbone. Wohoo.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: surfaceman on March 08, 2014, 09:31:57 pm
I have the T9 in both green and in black ( said he, boastfully ). In the flesh, so to speak, the green does actually look quite convincing.

Alex
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: CarriageShed on March 08, 2014, 11:58:23 pm
I have the T9 in both green and in black ( said he, boastfully ). In the flesh, so to speak, the green does actually look quite convincing.

Alex

That's quite reassuring.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: talisman56 on April 04, 2014, 06:02:28 pm
 :laugh3: :claphappy:

Union Mills has the T9 in BR Black (Early Emblem) (no. 30300) and Southern Olive Green (no.304) available again - get them while they're in stock!

77 for the BR Black one, 79 for the Southern Green.

Just got back home and there was a nice package waiting on the dining table...  :bounce:
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Dorsetmike on April 04, 2014, 06:21:11 pm
Shame that he can't doo the narrow cab T9 with watercart tender, the wide cab 6 wheel tender one was limited to the Eastern and Central divisions for most of Southern days.

I managed to convert mine using a Fleischmasnn  8 wheel tender drive and Langley white metal body (from S15 kit)  If spoked tender wheels were available for UM drives the conversion would be easier.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: talisman56 on April 04, 2014, 07:03:45 pm
No problem for me; as I prefer to model ex-LBSC lines, a 'wide' one with 6-wheel tender is perfect... 304 was at Brighton in the mid-30s.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: talisman56 on May 14, 2014, 05:44:40 pm
Price list as at 30/03/14 - later than the previous one, but the latest I have.

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Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Tdm on July 23, 2014, 01:32:16 pm
I e-mailed Colin Heard the other day.
He has replied and confirms his next model will definitely be a D16/3.
He mentioned tooling for a new tender of a later pattern too big for a J15. I thought the D16/3s only ran with the short GE tender - Am I wrong?
Roy

What is the Union Mills email address - I don't seem able to find one in my searches so far?, and I would like more information on their range and they would ship to Tenerife.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: daveg on July 27, 2014, 09:07:34 am
I e-mailed Colin Heard the other day.
He has replied and confirms his next model will definitely be a D16/3.
He mentioned tooling for a new tender of a later pattern too big for a J15. I thought the D16/3s only ran with the short GE tender - Am I wrong?
Roy

What is the Union Mills email address - I don't seem able to find one in my searches so far?, and I would like more information on their range and they would ship to Tenerife.

Can't put my hand on anything recent but try this:

colin.h@manx.net

Hope that is still a 'live' address. Mr Heard doesn't always respond at once. If that fails or nobody can offer an update, you could always drop him a snailmail line.

Dave G
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Octavian30 on October 05, 2014, 01:36:29 am
Does anyone know what Colin's next model will be. I keep hoping he'll do a 2-4-0 of some description... any 2-4-0 would do.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: keerout on October 05, 2014, 08:35:40 am
You can call Colin on:+(0)1624 852896  :thumbsup:
Gerard  :wave:
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: CarriageShed on October 05, 2014, 11:53:34 am
But he's not there until Monday, when he returns from a break...
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: CarriageShed on October 06, 2014, 10:59:34 am
Five and-a-half minutes of pure delight. I mean placing an order with Colin at Union Mills. He's a really nice chap.

The Somerset & Dorset 3F 0-6-0s are out of stock at the moment, but a fresh batch should be ready 'in the new year'. The Adams 0395 and T9 Greyhound are both in stock, and the prices shown on Post No 67, above, are still valid.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: talisman56 on March 07, 2015, 02:14:41 pm
Got a new loco from Colin in the post today, the price list that was enclosed is reproduced below:

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Obligatory and gratuitous pictures will be posted in the relevant threads shortly...  :)

Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Wishmaster on September 26, 2015, 11:44:19 am
Hi Guys,

Other than phone, is there any other way to get in tough with Union Mills? email? Web? etc.

Failing that, does anyone have the most recent catalogue/Price List?

Ta.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Roy L S on September 26, 2015, 11:49:21 am
Hi Guys,

Other than phone, is there any other way to get in tough with Union Mills? email? Web? etc.

Failing that, does anyone have the most recent catalogue/Price List?

Ta.

He does have an e-mail: -

colin.h@manx.net

He tends to be pretty quick replying in my experience but does tend to take odd weeks out occasionally.

Regards

Roy
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: keerout on September 26, 2015, 11:49:56 am
Hi wishmaster,
Alas I have no recent pricelist, but the best way of contacting Colin is to phone him: 01624 852896  :thumbsup:
Gerard  :wave:
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Wishmaster on September 26, 2015, 11:52:03 am
Thanks, but all I get is an answer phone saying he's not there.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Roy L S on September 26, 2015, 11:55:48 am
Hi Wishmaster

There is a price list in this month's RM - was there a specific loco you wanted to know about? I have the RM open on the page so would happily look it up for you.

Kind Regards

Roy
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Wishmaster on September 26, 2015, 11:59:34 am
Thanks Roy. I did see that one. I wasn't sure if that was the whole range or if there was more. I realise now that it's a fairly small operation. Have read some good reports so just trying to get more info at this stage. I've also got a lot of 9" curves and they claim all their locos can handle them!
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Roy L S on September 26, 2015, 12:14:57 pm
Thanks Roy. I did see that one. I wasn't sure if that was the whole range or if there was more. I realise now that it's a fairly small operation. Have read some good reports so just trying to get more info at this stage. I've also got a lot of 9" curves and they claim all their locos can handle them!

He generally advertises what he has in stock, but production batches are not large and he might subsequently sell out of some.

I have been a customer for many years. The locos are very simple and robust. They were more than a match for old Farish in detail but by today's standards are very basic. There is though much scope to super detail yourself and results of some (Like Dr Al's D20) are truly impressive.

Mechanisms are very simple. Not DCC ready but many have found them easy enough to hardwire a chip and conceal it. A can motor in the tender drives the outer axles via a twin stage reduction gearbox. Pickup is "American" that is to say no wiper pickups, wheels are earthed to axles opposite sides loco and tender (which are insulated from one another). It is simple and foolproof but does mean that the actual pickup wheelbase is fairly short (just length of tender one side and loco the other) and in my experience they can and do stall occasionally on insulfrog points (irrespective of what the ad says). Haulage is prodigious pretty much unbeatable for a British N steam loco. Slow running is average and been well and truly overtaken by the most recent Farish and Dapol offerings. Yes, all will negotiate a 9 inch radius curve no problem but as with any N steam loco are not especially forgiving of poorly laid track in my experience (but that's not the loco's fault!).

Overall they are basic but represent great value for money and Colin is generally careful to produce prototypes that no mainstream manufacturer would ever be likely to do. I would personally say try one. you may well then go back for another!

hope this helps.

Regards

Roy
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Hailstone on September 26, 2015, 01:14:34 pm
I would echo what Roy LS has said, I have several of these and all ran perfectly out of the box. as for contacting Colin, I would suggest you do it weekdays

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Tdm on September 26, 2015, 01:17:21 pm
I suspect Colin my be away as I emailed him a few days ago and have not received a reply.
I too would like an up to date list of what is currently available and the cost, and I also need some replacement parts.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: daveg on September 26, 2015, 01:26:25 pm
Colin has a half-page ad in the current issue of the NGS Journal (P84).

If you dont have your copy, let me know what you may be interested in and I'll let you have what detail there is.

HTH

Dave G
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: CarriageShed on September 26, 2015, 01:37:00 pm
Thanks Roy. I did see that one. I wasn't sure if that was the whole range or if there was more. I realise now that it's a fairly small operation. Have read some good reports so just trying to get more info at this stage. I've also got a lot of 9" curves and they claim all their locos can handle them!

Colin's UM locos will handle anything you can throw at them. They have to be about the toughest, robust-est locos going, and will pull as much stock as you can stick behind them. Give him a call in a couple of weeks and have a chat and you'll find him to be the most helpful person imaginable.

He seems to produce some locos in batches (such as those in S&DJR blue) but if you specify a particular interest then he'll make sure he notes it down, and you'll probably get it within a few months at most.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: N-Gauge-US on January 14, 2016, 05:43:33 pm
I emailed Colin and he sent me a lovely price list and information sheet all the way across the pond. Currently sold out of Dean Goods but expecting a new batch in March in four liveries (3 GWR and 1 BR), so one may have slightly smaller lettering. :) Below is the price and availability list I received yesterday:


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Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: kardkits on June 20, 2017, 02:16:16 pm
Does anyone have an updated price list they could show here please, last one is over a year old. thnx
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: keerout on September 28, 2017, 12:35:42 am
!Bump!
Gerard
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: longbow on September 28, 2017, 03:23:05 am
From October's RM

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Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Rowlie on January 21, 2018, 08:20:18 pm
Just received my lastest locomotive from Union Mills (ordered 4pm Friday received Saturday am, amazing service).  The list of current locos in stock were
Collett 2251, five livery versions (3-GWR & 2-BR) 75.
2P LMS 75
2F LMS 69
3F, two livery versions (LMS & BR) 69
Colin is currently building a batch of Dean Goods, and then will start on the Dukedogs.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Rowlie on March 04, 2018, 11:36:31 pm
My Dukedog arrived yesterday, a really lovely engine. 
The price list attached shows the following in stock.
Dukedog (GWR, Great Western, BR) 85
Dean Goods (GWR, Great Western, BR) 75
Collett 2251 (GWR, Great Western) 75
2P (LMS) 75
2F (LMS) 69
3F (BR) 69
Hope this is of interest
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: broadsword on March 04, 2018, 11:57:42 pm
I got a GWR Dean goods a few months ago, phoned
the order and it arrived next day, great service
and a great product.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: squit13 on September 18, 2018, 09:39:48 pm
Hello All,

I was just wondering if anybody has been in contact with Colin lately?
I sent an email about 2 weeks ago,  and as yet no reply.

I hate to be like this but cant trust myself not to spend the money put aside for a few UM locos!

I wondered if he may be on holiday or similar.

Many Thanks,
Huccaby
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Zwilnik on September 18, 2018, 09:47:55 pm
My guess is hes knee deep in City of Truro bits to put together.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: squit13 on September 18, 2018, 09:51:46 pm
Ah, fair enough.
Thanks for the reply!  :D
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Train Waiting on September 18, 2018, 09:53:53 pm
Hello All,

I was just wondering if anybody has been in contact with Colin lately?
I sent an email about 2 weeks ago,  and as yet no reply.

I hate to be like this but cant trust myself not to spend the money put aside for a few UM locos!

I wondered if he may be on holiday or similar.

Many Thanks,
Huccaby

Mr Heard sent me an engine last week.  Usual very fast service.

I don't e-mail or telephone, though!  I always order by letter. 

Hope this helps.

John
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: longbow on September 19, 2018, 01:45:01 am
Colin told me that the phone sometimes gets him, but emails do not.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 19, 2018, 12:21:08 pm
I have not had any dealings with Colin (if I could find an excuse for a loco of his, I would) but I wonder if he has a similar preference to Shawplan...

I have not once had a response to an e-mail or even an answered phonecall; but I have had orders fulfilled within a week of sending a letter, order and cheque!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: kardkits on September 19, 2018, 12:45:26 pm
I have made a few orders from Union Mills, all via telephone, called around 1pm GMT Friday, placed order, told they would be with me Monday, all arrived next day, Saturday.

I have emailed a few times, just over a year ago, and did start to get fast replies, but still waiting for a reply on the last one.

Never tried ordering by post. Last time I ordered was about 3-4 weeks ago, by telephone, for the City of Truro, this was the first time I have not had next day delivery, but that is only because CoT is still in production and will not be ready until start of October, which I eagerly await.
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: squit13 on September 19, 2018, 01:32:35 pm
I will give him a ring now. Its rare I have time at a socialable time of day!

Edit - Answered right away, Adams 0395 ordered. :D

Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: kelstonlad on September 19, 2018, 04:43:53 pm
I had a reply to an email I sent him, just a general enquiry for a price list. He asked for my address, and it arrived in the post a few days later. Maybe he just doesn't like email for orders?

- Andy
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: squit13 on September 19, 2018, 05:18:52 pm
I had a reply to an email I sent him, just a general enquiry for a price list. He asked for my address, and it arrived in the post a few days later. Maybe he just doesn't like email for orders?

- Andy

Thats a very good point actually. To be honest my email was mainly checking stock of 3 different locos, so I could then work out how many of each I can afford and then order from there.

But the no email for orders is a good point. To take the card paynents he obviously needs the card numbers which one shouldnt send in an email!
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: mr bachmann on September 19, 2018, 06:02:39 pm
union Mills - a good supply for philatelists  :D
( don't re-call the same stamp twice !!!)
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: acook on September 19, 2018, 06:38:53 pm
My two came next day(morning)!
One of the stamps had City of Truro on it.
Masterpiece of subliminal advertising.

Alan
Title: Re: Union Mills current price list
Post by: Train Waiting on September 19, 2018, 07:52:28 pm
I will give him a ring now. Its rare I have time at a socialable time of day!

Edit - Answered right away, Adams 0395 ordered. :D


It's a really lovely little engine and I hope you enjoy it.

There is a good feature on the class in the last two numbers of Bylines.


Best wishes.

John