Put Sunday 8 January 2017 in your diary folks--info courtesy of N-Gauge Yahoo Group.
Hi
Why? It will just be another list of things that won't see the light of day for a couple of years.
Cheers
Paul
I read somewhere (possibly here) that Bachmann were going to be realistic with their announcements, so perhaps it will be a list of the things that were announced two or more years ago that are actually going to be produced in 2017.
Best catalogue is Union Mills following on from Hornby (Liverpool) - no promises but guaranteed a new model annually .
£10 says this topic turns into a wishlist by the bottom of the first page. :P
Back on topic, it is hard to believe it has been nearly 9 months since the 319 has announced.
Quote from: Karhedron on December 02, 2016, 02:22:06 PM
£10 says this topic turns into a wishlist by the bottom of the first page. :P
I want a Unicorn (http://www.locoscene.co.uk/locodetail.php?locoid=4935) :P
My guesses for next month:
Their Thompson carriages in OO shrunk down to N
Rebuilt Bulleid Pacific (Merchant Navy)
Cut-away cab class 47s with long-range fuel tanks
Next year will be the 50th anniversary of the ending of regular steam on the Southern Region so they'll present a train pack consisting of a heavily weathered Std 5 4-6-0 and a mixed rake of Bulleids and Mk1s.
It'll also be 20 years since BR was fully privatised with the sale of Railfreight Distribution, so a RfD class 47 with freight stock will be offered as a train pack.
Reliveries:
Class 150/1 in Silverlink
Class 150/2 in GWR
Should have also added - 60th anniversary (1957) of the introduction of BR's first pilot scheme diesels
class 20 D8000-19 - featuring oval buffers and ladders
class 31 D5500-19 - in original livery featuring duck egg blue stripes would go down well http://www.nrm.org.uk/globalmedia/NRM_CT_936503_2.png (http://www.nrm.org.uk/globalmedia/NRM_CT_936503_2.png)
24 in RTC colours were in the gf window at Warley perhaps they will said to next years list, cancelled all my pre orders for this.
I can see there been a split headcode class 37 coming out especially with Colas naming 37099 in memory of Merl Evans on friday it goes with the other 37s they already offer.
I'm hoping for a rebuilt merchant navy and enough time to save up for it :D
:NGaugersRule:
Morning all,
We'll I'd hate for Karhedron to loose his tenner so here is what I'd like to see:
Retooled 8F
City of Truro
N15
More variations of MK1 (BSO, BFK)
Coach bogies to be made available as a spare item!
Cheers
Ollie
Collected this list from Warley last weekend, how likely to stay on track who knows.
Quote from: georgehgv on December 04, 2016, 12:31:47 PM
Collected this list from Warley last weekend, how likely to stay on track who knows.
April and May look quite expensive to me!
Alistair
Quote from: gc4946 on December 02, 2016, 06:36:25 PM
My guesses for next month:
Their Thompson carriages in OO shrunk down to N
Rebuilt Bulleid Pacific (Merchant Navy)
Cut-away cab class 47s with long-range fuel tanks
Next year will be the 50th anniversary of the ending of regular steam on the Southern Region so they'll present a train pack consisting of a heavily weathered Std 5 4-6-0 and a mixed rake of Bulleids and Mk1s.
It'll also be 20 years since BR was fully privatised with the sale of Railfreight Distribution, so a RfD class 47 with freight stock will be offered as a train pack.
Reliveries:
Class 150/1 in Silverlink
Class 150/2 in GWR
Quote from: gc4946 on December 02, 2016, 07:02:24 PM
Should have also added - 60th anniversary (1957) of the introduction of BR's first pilot scheme diesels
class 20 D8000-19 - featuring oval buffers and ladders
class 31 D5500-19 - in original livery featuring duck egg blue stripes would go down well http://www.nrm.org.uk/globalmedia/NRM_CT_936503_2.png (http://www.nrm.org.uk/globalmedia/NRM_CT_936503_2.png)
Also:
3-car 101 in Strathclyde orange/black (good choice alongside the 371-511 blue/grey version)
150/1 in Silverlink livery but with First Great Western branding http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=238542 (http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=238542)
A set of station buildings based on a preserved railway - this year it was Shillingstone, next year, either ex-Midland based on Oakworth? or Butterley?
or ex-Great Eastern, as Farish brought out a model of Downham Market signal box in NSE colours, perhaps follow it up with a collection of other ex-GER buildings.
I just want a DMU or two with WR numbers - not too much to ask, is it?
You never know, they could bring out a three-car unrefurbished 101 in blue/grey with "W" prefixes
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wadebridge+dmu+images&biw=1093&bih=479&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinjP3W9JjRAhVOMFAKHbA_APMQ7AkINA&dpr=1.25#imgrc=kwzN5s_zfvXu7M%3A (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wadebridge+dmu+images&biw=1093&bih=479&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinjP3W9JjRAhVOMFAKHbA_APMQ7AkINA&dpr=1.25#imgrc=kwzN5s_zfvXu7M%3A)
or a refurbished white/blue 3-car 101 unit
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wadebridge+dmu+images&biw=1093&bih=479&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinjP3W9JjRAhVOMFAKHbA_APMQ7AkINA&dpr=1.25#imgrc=8bdrdjQnLKGDRM%3A (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wadebridge+dmu+images&biw=1093&bih=479&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinjP3W9JjRAhVOMFAKHbA_APMQ7AkINA&dpr=1.25#imgrc=8bdrdjQnLKGDRM%3A)
My pre orders which, at one time, stood at around £1200 ( :o) are now reduced to 3 locos and a coach, so I hope they will announce something falling into my era/location.
Only 1 of those 3 locos is a Farish item.
I'm happy to say that i'm not the least bit interested. I have all the stock I need (ie that is relevant for location and period) for my layouts so I don't intend to buy anything else. In fact I might sell a few items that don't get used - or hold on to them a bit longer as the value is probably going up as the price of new items increases.
I notice the February Castle is now April/May.
Quote from: Chris Morris on December 29, 2016, 09:46:54 AM
I notice the February Castle is now April/May.
:doh: :censored:
Quote from: newportnobby on December 29, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Chris Morris on December 29, 2016, 09:46:54 AM
I notice the February Castle is now April/May.
:doh: :censored:
Bum, but at least gives a litte longer to save up. :D Just ordered the Class 108 sound as my first venture into sound locomotives.
I don't have any Farish items on pre-order, my only current interest is their 372-628 late crest Ivatt 2MT 46443, now preserved, which was based at Saltley at the time of my birth and could have ventured down the Camp Hill line near where our family first lived.
No release date has been announced and will be subject to a price rise in the meantime :doh:
Quote from: georgehgv on December 29, 2016, 10:01:39 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 29, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Chris Morris on December 29, 2016, 09:46:54 AM
I notice the February Castle is now April/May.
:doh: :censored:
Bum, but at least gives a little longer to save up. :D Just ordered the Class 108 sound as my first venture into sound locomotives.
Interested (waited too long to be excited) to see that the Castle is now 'promised' for late spring. I'd set aside some cash for it what seems eons ago. Wonder how much it will actually land up costing?
Dave G
Quote from: daveg on December 29, 2016, 10:29:43 AM
Quote from: georgehgv on December 29, 2016, 10:01:39 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 29, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Chris Morris on December 29, 2016, 09:46:54 AM
I notice the February Castle is now April/May.
:doh: :censored:
You should have got a price quoted when you ordered it.
Bum, but at least gives a little longer to save up. :D Just ordered the Class 108 sound as my first venture into sound locomotives.
Interested (waited too long to be excited) to see that the Castle is now 'promised' for late spring. I'd set aside some cash for it what seems eons ago. Wonder how much it will actually land up costing?
Dave G
Quote from: georgehgv on December 29, 2016, 11:19:03 AM
Quote from: daveg on December 29, 2016, 10:29:43 AM
Quote from: georgehgv on December 29, 2016, 10:01:39 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 29, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Chris Morris on December 29, 2016, 09:46:54 AM
I notice the February Castle is now April/May.
:doh: :censored:
You should have got a price quoted when you ordered it.
Bum, but at least gives a little longer to save up. :D Just ordered the Class 108 sound as my first venture into sound locomotives.
Interested (waited too long to be excited) to see that the Castle is now 'promised' for late spring. I'd set aside some cash for it what seems eons ago. Wonder how much it will actually land up costing?
Dave G
Mine was pre ordered from the Farish 2013/4 catalogue and no one, not even me, would expect a retailer to hold the price for 4 years, George :no:
Ordered my blue GF DMU with sound, only £200.00. new and free delivery woo hoo be here tomorrow.
Quote from: georgehgv on December 29, 2016, 02:29:27 PM
Ordered my blue GF DMU with sound, only £200.00. new and free delivery woo hoo be here tomorrow.
I thought it was steam locos that went woo hoo :confused1:
'Only £200' :o Beyond my budget George but glad you're happy about it!
I totally agree that I/we cannot expect the Castle to come in at the original price. It was ticketed at £102 when I ordered it back in March 2013.
Just noticed that the Hatton's listing shows it at £118.96 and my order has been updated to reflect that. Not too awful considering the gestation period and recent price increases.
Dave G
Quote from: daveg on December 29, 2016, 03:51:20 PM
'Only £200' :o Beyond my budget George but glad you're happy about it!
I totally agree that I/we cannot expect the Castle to come in at the original price. It was ticketed at £102 when I ordered it back in March 2013.
Just noticed that the Hatton's listing shows it at £118.96 and my order has been updated to reflect that. Not too awful considering the gestation period and recent price increases.
Dave G
listed at £225 to £250 so my £200 is good deal ty
Quote from: daveg on December 29, 2016, 03:51:20 PM
'Only £200' :o Beyond my budget George but glad you're happy about it!
I totally agree that I/we cannot expect the Castle to come in at the original price. It was ticketed at £102 when I ordered it back in March 2013.
Just noticed that the Hatton's listing shows it at £118.96 and my order has been updated to reflect that. Not too awful considering the gestation period and recent price increases.
Dave G
Same price at Rails, Dave, but I have lots of Christmas vouchers to offset the majority cost ;D
I used to get a bit excited about their announcements, but nowadays less so.
I do have items I would like to see produced like anyone else, but to be honest I have lots of stuff and the ever increasing price percentages are a turn off for me.
I will buy some new stuff of course, but much more selectively than was previously the case. Something has to give in my case, and similar with others I imagine?
I mostly just want the mk2 dbso...
Quote from: Luke Piewalker on December 30, 2016, 10:34:59 PM
I mostly just want the mk2 dbso...
I have been waiting since they were first announced, and thought they should be available within two years and within 6 months of the Class 47/7 being released...
I got so fed up waiting at the beginning of this year I decided to temporarily modify a further three Mark 2 coaches
Looks like 2017 will be a cheap year for me, just the REGIONAL RAILWAYS 37/4 which I will have modified to the SCOTRAIL livery version, but again no Mark 2 coaches in that livery either!
A king Arthur in br lined green would be lovely, but I will take another bullied coach type and the castles arriving.
Graham
Looking forward to the new run of Jintys but that's about it. My interests are more German now which, despite the tanking pound, still represent very good value for money.
I just wish the 170 DMU would become a reality..I am sure some poor wassname is walking them here from China.
Guys
Think we will see more 20 31 37 and 47 liveries I would like the OTA and PBA china clay wagons in N maybe an updated Presflow PCA tank the Rugby cement/Cerestar ones.
Hopefully some better trainsets the recent ones look really good the NSE one is a cracker by all accounts but not my era or region.
Dave
Hi all
Farish are releasing their new model list in the next week, during/after their trade only events.
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=345 (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=345)
Bob
There is already a thread for the 2017 announcements here.
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=35448.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=35448.0)
Maybe these threads should be merged so that people only have to look in one place?
[mod]Threads merged :thankyousign: [/mod]
That's why I did not find it - it says Bachmann Announcements 2017. What's wrong with Graham Farish?
Does anyone know what time the announcements will be made on Sunday?
(Still waiting for that FP Deltic!)
Quote from: Bob G on January 06, 2017, 10:28:15 AM
What's wrong with Graham Farish?
Now that's asking for trouble, Bob :no: ;)
Oh Lord, I beseech you, please don't let this turn into another wish list!
Quote from: newportnobby on January 06, 2017, 10:45:04 AM
Quote from: Bob G on January 06, 2017, 10:28:15 AM
What's wrong with Graham Farish?
Now that's asking for trouble, Bob :no: ;)
Exactly, we all know it's Bachmann anyway ;)
Paul
translates into send it ''back man'' :D
A handful of refurbished 31s, splitbox 40 and new TEA tanks are very welcome indeed! :claphappy:
Details here - about midway down the post.
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/118606-bachmann-announce-midland-1p-class-203-bep-buffet-car-vea-prestwin-and-carflat/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/118606-bachmann-announce-midland-1p-class-203-bep-buffet-car-vea-prestwin-and-carflat/)
Highlights definitely the C class in N. I suspect the 8F will he welcomed as well. There is also an upgraded 31 and new Thompson carriages.
Here
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/118606-bachmann-announce-midland-1p-class-203-bep-buffet-car-vea-prestwin-and-carflat/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/118606-bachmann-announce-midland-1p-class-203-bep-buffet-car-vea-prestwin-and-carflat/)
New Tooling – Graham Farish (N Scale)
Stanier 8F 2-8-0 (also with 1 version with sound)
No fewer than 852 of these heavy goods locomotives were built between 1935 and 1946. The design proved so successful that it was adopted by the War Department during the Second World War and saw service as far afield as Italy, Turkey, Iran and Israel, as well as with the LNER.
The model will feature a NEXT 18 DCC decoder socket, coreless motor, loco drive, fine cab detail and NEM couplers
372-160 LNER Class O6 (8F) 2-8-0 No. 3506 in LNER Black livery
372-161 LMS Stanier Class 8F 2-8-0 No. 8035 in LMS Black livery
372-162 LMS Stanier Class 8F 2-8-0 No. 48608 in BR Black livery with early emblem
372-163DS LMS Stanier Class 8F 2-8-0 No. 48773 in BR Black livery with late crest
C Class (which is sound enabled)
Designed primarily for goods duties, Harry Wainwright's 'C' Class 0-6-0 also proved useful for local passenger and excursion trains. Built by Neilson, Reid & Co., Sharp Stewart and the South Eastern & Chatham Railway's works at Longhedge and Ashford, they proved to be a successful and long-lived class with the last trio surviving in use until 1966. No. 592 is preserved at the Bluebell Railway.
This will be a perfect companion for the SECR 'Birdcage' coaches, also due to be released this year, as well as the many Southern Railway goods wagons in the range.
The model will feature a NEXT 18 DCC decoder socket, coreless motor, loco drive, fine cab detail and NEM couplers
372-775 C Class 0-6-0 No. 271 in SECR plain green livery
372-776 C Class 0-6-0 No. 1256 Southern Railway Black livery
372-777 C Class 0-6-0 No. 31227 in BR Black livery with early emblem
Refurbished Class 31
In the mid-1980s, 137 Class 31s were refurbished to extend their working lives. A number received Electric Train Supply (ETS) equipment for passenger work and a few are still in use today with Network Rail and smaller operators.
New for this year are models with the refurbished body details, together with buffer-beam modifications and revised lighting.
371-135 Class 31/1 (Refurbished) No. 31154 in BR Original Railfreight livery
371-136 Class 31/1 (Refurbished) No. 31319 in Railfreight Petroleum livery
371-137 Class 31/6 (Refurbished) No. 31602 in Network Rail yellow livery
Thompson coaches
These will complement the Class A1 and A2 'Pacifics' in the Graham Farish range.
376-200 Thompson 1st Class Corridor in LNER Teak livery
376-201 Thompson 1st Class Corridor in BR Crimson & Cream livery
376-225 Thompson Composite Corridor in LNER Teak livery
376-226 Thompson Composite Corridor in BR Crimson & Cream livery
376-250 Thompson 3rd Class Corridor in LNER Teak livery
376-251 Thompson 3rd Class Corridor in BR Crimson & Cream livery
376-275 Thompson 3rd Class Brake Corridor in LNER Teak livery
376-276 Thompson 3rd Class Brake Corridor in BR Crimson & Cream livery
Retooled TEAs
Available in three authentic liveries for 1960s to 1980s era modellers.
373-560 100 Ton TEA Bogie Tank Wagon in 'ESSO' livery
373-561 100 Ton TEA Bogie Tank Wagon in 'BP' Green livery
373-562 100 Ton TEA Bogie Tank Wagon in 'Gulf' Black livery (Weathered)
NEW GRAHAM FARISH N SCALE PRODUCTS FOR 2017/18
Items listed are all new releases using existing tooling.
Train sets and Train packs
370-375 Avro Vulcan XH558 Collectors Pack (for details of contents see Branchline OO Scale section)
370-048 The Highlander Digital Train Set
370-090 North Eastern Freight
Locomotives
372-428 WD Austerity Class 2-8-0 No. 3085 LNER Black livery
372-425A WD Austerity Class 2-8-0 No. 90441 BR Black livery with early emblem (Weathered)
371-020A Class 08 No. 13050 in BR Black livery with early emblem
371-014 Class 08 No. 08834 in BR Railfreight Distribution livery
371-038 Class 20 No. D8158 in BR Green livery with Headcode Box and small yellow warning panel
371-032A Class 20 No. 20048 in BR Blue livery with Cabside Double Arrow and Indicator Discs
371-470 Class 37/0 No. 37068 'Grainflow' in BR Railfreight Distribution livery with Split Headcode
371-471 Class 37/0 No. 37261 in DRS livery
371-468A Class 37/0 No. 97304 'John Tiley' in Network Rail livery
371-183DS Class 40 No. 40141 in BR Blue livery with Split Head Code and Digital Sound
372-247 Class 47/0 No. 47209 'Herbert Austin' in Railfreight Distribution livery
372-248 Class 47/4 No. 47550 'University of Dundee' in BR Intercity (Mainline) livery
371-658 Class 57/3 No. 57313 in West Coast Railways livery
371-659 Class 57/3 No. 57315 in Arriva Trains Wales (Trenau Arriva Cymru) livery
371-387 Class 66 No. 66846 in Colas livery
371-398 Class 66 No. 66779 'Evening Star' in GBRf livery
Coaches
374-432 Bulleid 63ft Brake Third Corridor Open in BR (SR) Malachite Green livery
374-432A Bulleid 63ft Brake Third Corridor Open in BR (SR) Malachite Green livery
374-442 Bulleid 63ft Third Corridor in BR (SR) Malachite Green livery
374-462 Bulleid 63ft Composite Corridor in BR (SR) Malachite Green livery
374-951 BR Mk2A FK First Corridor in BR Green livery
374-631A SR 50' Bogie B Luggage Van in BR (SR) Green livery
374-816A BR Mk1 FO First Open in BR Maroon livery
374-952 BR Mk2A FK First Corridor in Maroon livery
374-078E BR Mk1 BCK Brake Corridor Composite in BR Maroon livery
374-889 50ft Ex-LMS Parcel Van in BR Maroon livery
374-819A BR Mk1 FO First Open in BR Blue & Grey livery
374-085B BR Mk1 BCK Brake Corridor Composite in BR Blue & Grey livery
374-890 50ft Ex-LMS Parcels Van in BR Blue livery (Weathered)
374-950A BR MK2A FK First Corridor in BR Blue & Grey (Weathered)
374-111 BR Mk1 RMB Mini Buffet Car in Intercity livery
374-065 BR Mk1 SK Second Corridor in Sealink livery
374-196 BR Mk1 BSK Brake Second Corridor in Sealink livery
374-066 BR Mk1 SK Second Corridor in BR Blue & Grey livery with ScotRail branding (Weathered)
374-197 BR Mk1 BSK Brake Second Corridor in BR Blue & Grey livery with ScotRail branding (Weathered)
374-213 BR Mk1 SP Pullman Second Parlour Car No. '99347' in WCRC livery
374-214 BR Mk1 SP Pullman Second Parlour Car No. '99352' in WCRC livery
374-681A BR Mk2A BSO Brake Second Open in DRS Courier livery
374-683 BR Mk2 BSO in Network Rail livery
374-633 SR 50' Bogie B Luggage Van in BR Departmental livery
Wagons
377-500B Three Plank Wagon in 'I.C.I. Buxton Lime' livery
377-506 Three Plank Wagon in 'Easter Iron Mines' livery
377-625B 12 Ton BR Plywood Fruit Van in BR Bauxite early livery
377-628B 12 Ton BR Ventilated Van with Plywood Doors in BR Bauxite late livery (Weathered)
377-850A SR 25 Ton 'Pill Box'Brake Van in SR Brown livery with white Roof
377-854A SR 25 Ton 'Pill Box' Brake Van in BR Bauxite early livery
373-602C 46T VGA Sliding Wall Van in BR Railfreight Distribution livery
373-603 46T RBA Sliding Wall Van in DB Cargo livery
373-928 30 Ton Bogie Bolster in W^D WW1 Khaki livery with Sheeted Tank Load
377-604 80 Tonne glw BDA Bogie Bolster Wagon in BR Railfreight Distribution Metals Sector livery with Load
377-603A 80 Tonne glw BDA Bogie Bolster Wagon in Departmental Yellow livery with Load
373-656 14 Ton Tank Wagon in 'Shell BP' livery
373-657 14 Ton Tank Wagon in 'Ronuk' livery
373-781 45 Ton glw TTA Tank Wagon in Weed Killing Train Departmental livery
373-775C 45 Tonne glw TTA Tank Wagon in 'BP' Green livery
373-630 31 Ton OBA Open Wagon with High Ends in BR Railfreight Distribution livery
377-353A Intermodal Bogie Wagons with 45ft Containers in 'Malcolm Logistics' livery
From RMweb
Highlight for me is definitely the C class in N.
Very pleased to see the Network Rail & DRS class 37's, on my list for sure, as is the Mk2 BSO in NR livery.
Overall a nice varied mix, and hopefully something for everyone! :)
'372-163DS LMS Stanier Class 8F 2-8-0 No. 48773 in BR Black livery with late crest'
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!
A fair few things that take my fancy but the 8F is very very welcome. Shame that they are not offering the C Class in fully lined livery but then I can see that being a BCC model. West Coast 57 and Pullmans will nicely slot in to a railtour rake.
Cheers
Ollie
Interestingly the article states both March and may 2017 for the GWR castle and no maroon Hawksworths.
However happy days overall an 8F maybe but the rest can wait so I can either get on with modelling or use the money on house renovation.
Graham
As someone has just pointed out on the Dapol Digest this 371-398 Class 66 No. 66779 'Evening Star' in GBRf livery is also the subject of the Dapol collectors club special due later this year.
:hmmm: :beers:
Thank you, Lord, for the 8F. My prayers have been answered and all I have to do now is stay alive long enough to get my grubby little mitts on one (or more) :worried:
Good to see more Bulleid coaches and the WW1 bolster with sheeted tank load may be of interest to the military modellers.
The Scenecraft quayside walls may help those building harbour side layouts.
Nope, nothing there whatsoever for me luckily! OO gauge BEP is interesting.
I don't understand how, a year on, the class 70 with the added air intake thingummies can still be in the drawing room! It's the addition of a square of plastic 5x5mm to the body side!
My prayers have been answered in that we're getting an 8F but the only late crest version has sound :thumbsdown:
I'm not paying for sound when I dislike it so unless they make a late crest version without sound I'll have to get someone to change the crest for me on the early one. As I'm likely to get more than one a renumbering will have to be done too.
I hate to say this but I'm glad it's Farish doing it rather than Dapol as I wish they had done the 9F.
Odd that there are no maroon Hawksworths as this is likely to be the best selling livery.
Sound fitted 8F and Thompsons will do very nicely, the Thompsons a fairly safe bet and the 8F a "no brainer". I can't see prices on the RM Web link - I guess they may not have decided yet!
However a note of pessimism from me, it looks like very little progress on existing projects from the updates so how long will we have to wait for any of these new announcements (OR have they jumped the queue?).
Roy
Quote from: Karhedron on December 02, 2016, 02:22:06 PM
£10 says this topic turns into a wishlist by the bottom of the first page. :P
Back on topic, it is hard to believe it has been nearly 9 months since the 319 has announced.
or grumble list ;D
Two pieces of good news:
Thank heavens for RevolutioN - at least they don't ignore EMUs :claphappy:
My money remains in the bank :claphappy:
Quote from: gc4946 on December 29, 2016, 07:51:54 AM
You never know, they could bring out a three-car unrefurbished 101 in blue/grey with "W" prefixes
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wadebridge+dmu+images&biw=1093&bih=479&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinjP3W9JjRAhVOMFAKHbA_APMQ7AkINA&dpr=1.25#imgrc=kwzN5s_zfvXu7M%3A (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wadebridge+dmu+images&biw=1093&bih=479&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinjP3W9JjRAhVOMFAKHbA_APMQ7AkINA&dpr=1.25#imgrc=kwzN5s_zfvXu7M%3A)
or a refurbished white/blue 3-car 101 unit
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wadebridge+dmu+images&biw=1093&bih=479&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinjP3W9JjRAhVOMFAKHbA_APMQ7AkINA&dpr=1.25#imgrc=8bdrdjQnLKGDRM%3A (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wadebridge+dmu+images&biw=1093&bih=479&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinjP3W9JjRAhVOMFAKHbA_APMQ7AkINA&dpr=1.25#imgrc=8bdrdjQnLKGDRM%3A)
Or they might not, which given the current situation is more likely I feel.
Has there been any indication about delivery dates on the new tooling items? On current form one would not expect most of them until 2018 but I believe GF have been indicating a quicker turnaround this year.
Well I hope the 8F has a good mechanism as there are some nice kits that use an 8F chassis but the old Farish is well past sell by date.
If they are Next18 sockets it should be possible to wire sound in the others with the addition of a speaker. I would guess that the plastic wont be different and the speakers will be available as spares.
I do like the idea of the C class, I was on one at the Bluebell a couple of months ago and was about to build the N Brass kit. I still will as it is such a nice loco but very complicated to line.
Now to see if Farish deliver what they promise on delivery dates. I guess the Castles will be the acid test.
Quote from: newportnobby on January 08, 2017, 10:47:52 AM
My prayers have been answered in that we're getting an 8F but the only late crest version has sound :thumbsdown:
I'm not paying for sound when I dislike it so unless they make a late crest version without sound I'll have to get someone to change the crest for me on the early one
Or swap bodies with someone who has bought the late crest one. (HINT HINT) I'll be wanting both Early and Late so having both sound fitted would be lovely. :)
Cheers
Ollie
Only three items of interest for me, of which only one new tooling:
Class 31/1
New tooled TEAs
Latest standard 47 in Railfreight Distribution
The refurbished 31 is of interest to me in tripple grey Petrolium (of course) although I am intreauged by that choice of Sub-Sector. I wonder if Farish have chosen this to go with the upgraded TEAs?
Also keen on the updated TEAs in BP Green. I have four of the old Poole ones and I remember spending ages trying to get hold of the green versions. Apparently popular enough livery for Farish to start with them.
I also have an early China class 47, 47306 "The Sapper" which is in RFD. The new 47/0 would (despite a different sub-class) is essentially an upgrade for me and I should ask myself do I spend cash on an upgrade or buy one of the new items I have on my list?
I suppose I could research trade-ins for older 47s and old Poole TEAs?
Skyline2uk
Quote from: Claude Dreyfus on January 08, 2017, 10:14:40 AM
Highlight for me is definitely the C class in N.
Ditto! I'm doing backflips with excitement. :bounce: I wonder what their idea of 'sound enabled' will be. Does that mean it will have a speaker? Otherwise, I don't see how anything with a socket could be any more 'sound enabled' than an extant dcc ready loco.
Philip
Quote from: N-Gauge-US on January 08, 2017, 11:28:11 AM
Quote from: Claude Dreyfus on January 08, 2017, 10:14:40 AM
Highlight for me is definitely the C class in N.
Ditto! I'm doing backflips with excitement. :bounce: I wonder what their idea of 'sound enabled' will be. Does that mean it will have a speaker? Otherwise, I don't see how anything with a socket could be any more 'sound enabled' than an extant dcc ready loco.
Philip
I assume it will have tabs on the pcb to solder speaker wires on to, just above the speaker space and you just drop the decoder in.
Alistair
The 3MT is still listed on the GF website for Feb/Mar but I can see no mention of it in today's release. An oversight presumably.
374-432 Bulleid 63ft Brake Third Corridor Open in BR (SR) Malachite Green livery
374-432A Bulleid 63ft Brake Third Corridor Open in BR (SR) Malachite Green livery
374-442 Bulleid 63ft Third Corridor in BR (SR) Malachite Green livery
374-462 Bulleid 63ft Composite Corridor in BR (SR) Malachite Green livery
As long as these are numbered in the ranges 4011-40 (BTK); 26-40 (TK); and 5823-37 (CK) then they would be correct for those who model that period. What we really need, though, are matching BCKs already...
374-951 BR Mk2A FK First Corridor in BR Green livery
Incorrect - the only Mk2 FKs that appeared in BR(SR) Green were the initial Mk2 (later Mk2Z under TOPS) variants, and these had several detail differences, most visible were the window ventilators (two part sliding portion like Mk1, not the single pane as in later Mk2s), and the style and colour of the gangway end doors.
EDIT: Just seen the image on the Farish website - it's the OO version of the Mk2 (no suffix)/Mk2z coach. The description above is incorrect. It would happen, wouldn't it - just as I've got my two Electra vinyl-sided Mk2s under way...
Thompsons - something to run with the NGS full brake...
That being said, they can take my money for a 'C' or two...
Quote from: Ollie3440 on January 08, 2017, 11:18:22 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 08, 2017, 10:47:52 AM
My prayers have been answered in that we're getting an 8F but the only late crest version has sound :thumbsdown:
I'm not paying for sound when I dislike it so unless they make a late crest version without sound I'll have to get someone to change the crest for me on the early one
Or swap bodies with someone who has bought the late crest one. (HINT HINT) I'll be wanting both Early and Late so having both sound fitted would be lovely. :)
Cheers
Ollie
Thanks Ollie,
I'll bear that in mind :claphappy:
Quote from: newportnobby on January 08, 2017, 10:47:52 AM
My prayers have been answered in that we're getting an 8F but the only late crest version has sound :thumbsdown:
I'm not paying for sound when I dislike it so unless they make a late crest version without sound I'll have to get someone to change the crest for me on the early one. As I'm likely to get more than one a renumbering will have to be done too.
I hate to say this but I'm glad it's Farish doing it rather than Dapol as I wish they had done the 9F.
I like that an 8F will make an appearance...at some stage. Have to agree with you newportnobby about Farish doing it as opposed to Dapol. I wonder how many more out there share this view? Sadly Dapol do not seem to be addressing buyers concerns, in my opinion.
This is a good an announcement, particularly the Thomson coaches, although none in maroon I notice. That's okay, that means they will come later. With the 40s expected this year that spreads the load on the bank balance a bit.
@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) It is not implausible for an early crest locomotive to run in the ate crest period. It wasn't uncommon for an early crest to be so adorned all they way up to withdrawal in the 60s. I will buy an early crest example, on that basis, for my late crest period.
As far as the 31s are concerned, I was rather hoping they would release an early skin head version, but you can't have it all.
I'm not entirely familiar with the C class. Where would they have got to on the network. I'm assuming BR(S) only, but where abouts? Would they have gotten to the south coast via the central division?
More brake vans are welcome.
I welcome the introduction of the 8F to 21st century standards and, as predicted, the introduction of Thompson carriages in the smaller scale.
With the arrival of the SECR C 0-6-0 those modelling ex-Chatham lines receive a welcome boost - the last survivors served as departmental shunters at Ashford Works and weren't withdrawn until 1966 (source: Wikipedia)
Interestingly, there's no new reliveried DMUs or EMUs announced today for this year.
Well,
I relieved not a massive selection of new stuff that interests me personally but, if its so they can catch up on stuff they have already announced then I wont argue.
The only thing they surprises me is that they haven't gone for 37099 in colas livery as it is named after Merl Evans I would have thought they would be straight onto that with its links.
Only things that are really tickling my fancy are the 57s and some wagons, but I can live with that there is enough on the want list that is already on sale!
As I have stated on the Facebook group, of the new items it will only be the Thompson coaches I will be after. I too would like maroon ones but my current 4 makeshift models include 1 Blood & Custard. So I may buy 2 initially and wait - or even just replace the 4 and get some maroon ones as well later.
I don't use my 8F or 40s very often so they are low priority.
C Class for SR modelers
8F for LMS fans
Thompson coaches for those of an LNER persuausion
What about us poor GWR fans? :(
(And I know that the Castle and Auto coach are just around the corner but they were announced ~4 years ago and there has been nothing else announced since). :'(
I love how they refer to the Class 31 & 40 as "modern image" as both stopped production over 50 years ago!
Nothing for me this time round.. they've discontinued the Class 158 DMU I was looking to re-livery as SWT and the Class 170 DMU that's been "on order" forever seems a bit crazy as SWT only ever owned 9!
On the flip side, it's nice to see the 8F. I wonder if I should wind my layout clock back 50-60 years and start again?
Thank goodness for that.
Nothing that I want!
The only item of interest for me is the 8F, presumably available some time in 2018. Disappointed that there is no 25/3.
Hattons release email with full details, estimated prices, and pictures...
http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?m=1101625934567&ca=c121cb56-5859-4bcc-add4-23e2772a8862 (http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?m=1101625934567&ca=c121cb56-5859-4bcc-add4-23e2772a8862)
No one has spotted that the Highlander train set has a class 37 37418 with two Mk 2A coaches in green and cream livery. I know a lot of folk who would want those coaches!
B
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/1517-080117155218.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47092)
Shame they're not Mk 1s!!
:'(
Quote from: newportnobby on January 08, 2017, 10:47:52 AM
My prayers have been answered in that we're getting an 8F but the only late crest version has sound :thumbsdown:
I'm not paying for sound when I dislike it so unless they make a late crest version without sound I'll have to get someone to change the crest for me on the early one. As I'm likely to get more than one a renumbering will have to be done too.
I hate to say this but I'm glad it's Farish doing it rather than Dapol as I wish they had done the 9F.
Not to worry Nobby--most 8Fs were so filthy that the crest wasn't visible!
Thompson coaches estimate to be £38 each!!!!!
bloomin ell!!!
Simon
Quote from: bridgiesimon on January 08, 2017, 04:33:48 PM
Thompson coaches estimate to be £38 each!!!!!
bloomin ell!!!
Simon
Really! Where does that price come from?
Gonna need a mortgage to buy this stuff soon.
:(
follow the link to the hattons site, estimated price I know but the Mk1 sleepers are £32.95 on the Bachmann site.
http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?m=1101625934567&ca=c121cb56-5859-4bcc-add4-23e2772a8862 (http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?m=1101625934567&ca=c121cb56-5859-4bcc-add4-23e2772a8862)
Best wishes
Simon
Quote from: bridgiesimon on January 08, 2017, 04:48:10 PM
follow the link to the hattons site, estimated price I know but the Mk1 sleepers are £32.95 on the Bachmann site.
http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?m=1101625934567&ca=c121cb56-5859-4bcc-add4-23e2772a8862 (http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?m=1101625934567&ca=c121cb56-5859-4bcc-add4-23e2772a8862)
Best wishes
Simon
Thanks Simon. That makes the Thompsons £12-£14 more than other coaches. How can that be justified I wonder?
:beers:
Quote from: austinbob on January 08, 2017, 05:01:19 PM
Thanks Simon. That makes the Thompsons £12-£14 more than other coaches. How can that be justified I wonder?
Think is down to when the tooling was done, with the drop in value of the Pound look at the 57s vs 31s, the 57s have the tooling done so basically a relivery of the models no or barely any tooling required where as the new 31s need more new tooling so the extra cost.
That been said there is some jump on some models!
Good for me if not wallet - and yes I have a part painted arriva 57, 2 pullmans in WCR and a 57 waiting maroon !
Best has to be train packs two near to my heart , then the sealink coaches - just for fun !
8F has to be very welcome hopefully 2018 will see 7f , 158,170 and 25/3
Off to preorder at hattons
cheeers
Robert
Because of the price rises, I'm sitting on my collection now, only selling when for example I have had a rush of blood to the head and bought another class 33, for example...
And now there is a wealth of high quality models to choose from, I am actually starting to reduce my collection to those locos and stock which would have worked in the area I model (Hampshire/Wessex) (with more than a few liberties taken when it comes to hydraulics), and the era(s) I model.
For instance, I just reduced my collection of Mark 2 DMUs to zero. I would like to stay in the 1970s as the most recent period I model but I still want a class 59 and so then I start to collect large logo 50s, and so it goes on.
And I am REALLY STRUGGLING to justify a Wainwright C class 0-6-0 straying over to the Eastleigh area, so yet another rule 1 purchase may happen in the future (or I relocate the layout).
Must focus....
Bob
Ref the Avro Vulcan pack...
What I'm interested in is which "pair" of Vulcans will be in the pack?
XH558 and.....?
Or two versions of XH558 (Anti-glare white and camo?)
Skyline2uk
Quote from: Skyline2uk on January 08, 2017, 05:39:18 PM
Ref the Avro Vulcan pack...
What I'm interested in is which "pair" of Vulcans will be in the pack?
XH558 and.....?
Or two versions of XH558 (Anti-glare white and camo?)
Skyline2uk
And will they howl?
Quote from: daffy on January 08, 2017, 05:50:37 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on January 08, 2017, 05:39:18 PM
Ref the Avro Vulcan pack...
What I'm interested in is which "pair" of Vulcans will be in the pack?
XH558 and.....?
Or two versions of XH558 (Anti-glare white and camo?)
Skyline2uk
And will they howl?
That's a use of sound I would like to see / hear!
Skyline2uk
Quote from: Skyline2uk on January 08, 2017, 06:04:15 PM
Quote from: daffy on January 08, 2017, 05:50:37 PM
And will they howl?
That's a use of sound I would like to see / hear!
Skyline2uk
Maybe record, and play back as your Class 37 Avro Vulcan takes to the tracks:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ARSE8jEHQ (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ARSE8jEHQ)
Quote from: Bob G on January 08, 2017, 05:21:50 PM
And I am REALLY STRUGGLING to justify a Wainwright C class 0-6-0 straying over to the Eastleigh area, so yet another rule 1 purchase may happen in the future (or I relocate the layout).
Must focus....
Bob
Me too, but I'll get one/two anyway... :)
Quote from: Skyline2uk on January 08, 2017, 05:39:18 PM
Ref the Avro Vulcan pack...
What I'm interested in is which "pair" of Vulcans will be in the pack?
XH558 and.....?
Or two versions of XH558 (Anti-glare white and camo?)
Skyline2uk
According to the box image on the Farish website, XH558 and....?
37 558 "Avro Vulcan XH558"...!
Quote from: talisman56 on January 08, 2017, 06:48:25 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on January 08, 2017, 05:39:18 PM
Ref the Avro Vulcan pack...
What I'm interested in is which "pair" of Vulcans will be in the pack?
XH558 and.....?
Or two versions of XH558 (Anti-glare white and camo?)
Skyline2uk
According to the box image on the Farish website, XH558 and....? 37 558 "Avro Vulcan XH558"...!
I have just been informed on the Facebook group that the pack will include the class 37 and two versions of the Vulcan aircraft XH558; earlier Anti-flash white and later Camouflage version.
Skyline2uk
some good stuff in there!!
class 40 split head code box sound version will do for me!
i'll also get the class 31 in railfreight livery
not sure what else, i'll wait and see what the prices are going to be and maybe just wait for them to come out and for some sales or ebay items...
no class 117 or VEA van shrunk in n though is a shame but it will happen eventually i'm sure
new tooling TEA tanks might tempt me as well but it will be expensive to trade in my existing ones for new ones...
overall a good range of stuff i think
mk2a regional railways would have been nice as well
Tim
:ngauge:
Great news about the 8F, the big question is when will they actually appear, how much will they be and more importantly how many can I justify?
Cannot understand why the only version of the split headcode class 40 will be in blue. Class 20 in green with small yellow warning panel and disk indicators still only being produced in weathered condition. Looks as if my money will be staying in the bank. Only bought one GF loco in the last 5 years. Farish need to listen to what the modellers want as opposed to produce what suits them.
Meh .... Nothing for me this year (again)!
I'm really disapointed the Class 33 models dont have a fat driver smoking a cigar. It's a very serious ommition that has put me off Farish for life................. :D :bounce: :laugh3: :-X
Guys
Really good for us Scotrail modellers the coaches the Highlander set and the Intercity 47 I like the Vulcan train as 37's and Vulcans are amazing machines. Iam may even take first steps into digital with the Highlander set is the loco in this set sound fitted?
The only small moan is still no OTA wagon and would love to have seen 37049 in N its in the OO range and also no addition green coaches for Highlander set
Hello all,
I understand the two versions of XK558 depict it in the colours it carried for its first and last flights.
Cheers
Ben A.
Not much for me in this lot which will spare my wallet some stress. A couple that will interest me are a couple of uncommon coaches from the transition era, namely the Mk2a FK in SR Green and BR Maroon. Surprised to see these in the list to be honest...
Following earlier posts, these are not Mk2A coaches but the first 1964 batch Mk2 (no suffix) coaches that were delivered in the Green and Maroon liveries. From the image on the Farish webside it looks like the OO versions are being shrink-rayed...
Quote from: austinbob on January 08, 2017, 04:45:03 PM
Quote from: bridgiesimon on January 08, 2017, 04:33:48 PM
Thompson coaches estimate to be £38 each!!!!!
bloomin ell!!!
Simon
Really! Where does that price come from?
Gonna need a mortgage to buy this stuff soon.
:(
Could it be because "Company X" says "Let's change £38 per coach" and we all say "That's a lot of money" but pay it anyway?
Just asking.
Since this thread has virtually turned into a 'wish list' can I ask why we are still waiting for some RTR D600s?
After all, many of the other diesel prototypes are available now.
Quote from: D1042 Western Princess on January 09, 2017, 01:03:28 PM
Quote from: austinbob on January 08, 2017, 04:45:03 PM
Quote from: bridgiesimon on January 08, 2017, 04:33:48 PM
Thompson coaches estimate to be £38 each!!!!!
bloomin ell!!!
Simon
Really! Where does that price come from?
Gonna need a mortgage to buy this stuff soon.
I must say I was taken aback when I saw the estimated price of £38. For me every time they have a round often heavy price increases, and a newly announced model with a provisional price that raises the eyebrows, I become further distanced from buying. Are they pushing prices to the point where they may ease off if and when sales start to decline? Do they think or know that enough modellers will some way still buy enough of their products? Will we have the £50 rrp on a coach 2-3 years down the line ?
:(
Could it be because "Company X" says "Let's change £38 per coach" and we all say "That's a lot of money" but pay it anyway?
Just asking.
Quote from: paulprice on January 08, 2017, 08:09:51 PM
Great news about the 8F, the big question is when will they actually appear, how much will they be and more importantly how many can I justify?
Don't know where, don't know when,
but I know we'll meet again the box shifters are quoting £129, I believe (add a £100 or so for sound). Dependent on the 'when' this may be subject to one or more price increases. Does anyone know how many years we have left of the Chinese government decree that wages must rise by 20% for 5 years?
It's about half way through.
Alustair
Some good stuff here for me. I will go for the Railfreight Distribution 37/0 & 47, Mainline 47, weathered blue/grey MK1 SKs and BSK with ScotRail branding, InterCity MK1 RMB and the SR 50ft Bogie B Luggage Van in Departmental livery.
I may also pick up the Hebridean MK2s if any retailer decides to split the sets.
I will resist the refurbished 31s this time around, but may pick one up a bit later.
I think it was a good call producing the Network Rail yellow 31 and another 37, as the crazy prices the last 37 was going for on eBay must have been a source of frustration for those who missed it last time around.
47550 my all time favourite 47, is great for me, l still think farish are holding back on livery types on the 47 body types available, time for more trainload sectors, RES and inter city should be appearing by now......
Yeah i would buy RES and Intercity Swallow Class 47s...
I may buy the Railfreight Distribution one though as well...
Tim
😊 definitely getting the c class and the T
I'm quite pleased with the announcements.
A Stanier 8F might be nice although not a high priority, not that I'll have to decide for a while.
Thompson coaches - I'd be more likely to buy if there was a BR maroon option (still waiting for maroon Hawksworths too, maybe next year).
Very tempted by the 370-375 Avro Vulcan Collectors Pack and the North Eastern Freight train set.
These have been on my personal wishlist for some time:
371-038 Class 20 No. D8158 in BR Green livery with Headcode Box and small yellow warning panel
374-889 50ft Ex-LMS Parcel Van in BR Maroon livery
374-890 50ft Ex-LMS Parcels Van in BR Blue livery (Weathered)
374-111 BR Mk1 RMB Mini Buffet Car in Intercity livery
The WCRC coaches sound tempting too, for modern-day rail excursions. I didn't even realise I wanted them until I saw them listed. But I'll need a suitable brake coach...
Don't quote me but I am sure WCRC use some MK2 BSO as brake coach and support coach for some of their excursions just get a normal one and paint it up
(I say that like its simple, when I am horrific myself!)
Whats in the North Eastern Freight pack, not that I'm turning my back on the LMS
Quote from: paulprice on January 10, 2017, 04:33:52 PM
Whats in the North Eastern Freight pack, not that I'm turning my back on the LMS
Looks like a nicely weathered B1 and three tank wagons plus brake van.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/1517-100117164334.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47165)
HTH
Bob
Should there not be a buffer wagon between the loco and the tankers.
Quote from: Bob G on January 10, 2017, 04:44:21 PM
Quote from: paulprice on January 10, 2017, 04:33:52 PM
Whats in the North Eastern Freight pack, not that I'm turning my back on the LMS
Looks like a nicely weathered B1 and three tank wagons plus brake van.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/1517-100117164334.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47165)
HTH
Bob
Weathered? I thought all NE loco's were supposed to be rusty lol
Quote from: Chetcombe on January 09, 2017, 05:11:05 AM
Not much for me in this lot which will spare my wallet some stress. A couple that will interest me are a couple of uncommon coaches from the transition era, namely the Mk2a FK in SR Green and BR Maroon. Surprised to see these in the list to be honest...
I wonder how many they will make? Worth waiting for box shifters to heavily discount them (a la nightcap bar)!
Such rarities. Why no a white cab deltic, weathered deltic, full yellow ended green deltic, deltic that shoots flames (dcc only) :D
I just got the 2017 Farish catalog in the post.
On sound, if there is a DCC sound version then the rest of that model type is marked as sound enabled and it looks like all you would need to do is add a sound chip.
Quote from: Snowwolflair on January 11, 2017, 11:41:02 AM
I just got the 2017 Farish catalog in the post.
On sound, if there is a DCC sound version then the rest of that model type is marked as sound enabled and it looks like all you would need to do is add a sound chip.
Do you know if they are doing a late crest Stanier 8F without sound please?
Quote from: newportnobby on January 11, 2017, 02:21:33 PM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on January 11, 2017, 11:41:02 AM
I just got the 2017 Farish catalog in the post.
On sound, if there is a DCC sound version then the rest of that model type is marked as sound enabled and it looks like all you would need to do is add a sound chip.
Do you know if they are doing a late crest Stanier 8F without sound please?
No not in catalogue. Br Black early but the late one is sound 💊
Quote from: georgehgv on January 11, 2017, 02:28:51 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 11, 2017, 02:21:33 PM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on January 11, 2017, 11:41:02 AM
I just got the 2017 Farish catalog in the post.
On sound, if there is a DCC sound version then the rest of that model type is marked as sound enabled and it looks like all you would need to do is add a sound chip.
Do you know if they are doing a late crest Stanier 8F without sound please?
No not in catalogue. Br Black early but the late one is sound
Actually if you just take out the DCC chip and put in the blanking plate it will be DC, then sell the sound chip to someone who wants sound in one of the other liveries.
Thanks Both :thumbsup:
I like the idea of selling the sound chip but wouldn't pay that much to have it in the first place. :no:
Quote from: Snowwolflair on January 11, 2017, 11:41:02 AM
I just got the 2017 Farish catalog in the post.
On sound, if there is a DCC sound version then the rest of that model type is marked as sound enabled and it looks like all you would need to do is add a sound chip.
Just as I was reading this I heard the postie at my door, so happy I got up and didn't just think it was junk mail! :D :D :D
Quote from: newportnobby on January 11, 2017, 02:35:35 PM
Thanks Both :thumbsup:
I like the idea of selling the sound chip but wouldn't pay that much to have it in the first place. :no:
Do a deal with someone who wants sound, and I am sure some of the sellers might oblige to do the swap.
Definitely:
379-017 Graham Farish 2017 Catalogue
371-137 Class 31/6 31602 in Network Rail yellow
371-468A Class 37/0 97304 "John Tiley" in Network Rail yellow
373-602C 46T VGA Sliding Wall Van BR Railfreight Distribution
373-603 46T RBA Sliding Wall Van DB Cargo
377-353A Intermodal Bogie Wagons 45ft Containers 'Malcolm Logistics'
Possibly:
371-471 Class 37/0 37261 in Direct Rail Services blue
371-659 Class 57/3 57315 in Arriva Trains Wales livery
372-775 Class C Wainwright 0-6-0 271 in SE&CR plain green
And looking more likely by the day due to problems ordering the Dapol model:
371-398 Class 66/7 66779 "Evening Star" in BR green with GBRF brandingQuote from: acko22 on January 08, 2017, 02:10:27 PM
.. surprises me is that they haven't gone for 37099 in colas livery as it is named after Merl Evans I would have thought they would be straight onto that with its links. ...
Yes, I'm surprised too that they aren't doing 37099 in N. Especially after reading this:
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To honour our great friend and colleague, we are producing a OO scale model of the Class 37 locomotive in Colas Rail livery that was recently named 'Merl Evans'. This is a mainstream catalogue item. The locomotive has just been extensively overhauled and modified for the latest chapter in its working life with Colas working on the Main Line. As part of these works, a change had to be made to the headlight position on the nose (something that we will replicate on our tooling) and it was out-shopped in the latest Colas livery proudly carrying its unique tribute to Merl. A donation will be made from the sale of each model towards LOROS, the chosen charity of Merl's family. LOROS provides hospice care in Leicester, Leicestershire and Rutland and further details can be found at www.loros.co.uk (http://www.loros.co.uk).
from http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/118606-bachmann-announce-midland-1p-class-203-bep-buffet-car-vea-prestwin-and-carflat/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/118606-bachmann-announce-midland-1p-class-203-bep-buffet-car-vea-prestwin-and-carflat/)
Quote from: GreatBigBlue on January 10, 2017, 09:35:31 PM
Quote from: Chetcombe on January 09, 2017, 05:11:05 AM
Not much for me in this lot which will spare my wallet some stress. A couple that will interest me are a couple of uncommon coaches from the transition era, namely the Mk2a FK in SR Green and BR Maroon. Surprised to see these in the list to be honest...
I wonder how many they will make? Worth waiting for box shifters to heavily discount them (a la nightcap bar)!
Such rarities. Why no a white cab deltic, weathered deltic, full yellow ended green deltic, deltic that shoots flames (dcc only) :D
Yes I've been nagging for ages on an FP Deltic; FYE green would be good too.
Quote from: newportnobby on January 11, 2017, 02:35:35 PM
Thanks Both :thumbsup:
I like the idea of selling the sound chip but wouldn't pay that much to have it in the first place. :no:
Sound chip is meant to work (with some limitations) on DC aswell, so it's not a dud device under DC.
Though of course, you may hate sound, period!
Cheers,
Alan
Hi all,
The particular Colas 37 named after Merl Evans has its headlight in an altered position I believe. They are tooling this modification in 00, where sales are usually significantly higher, but I suspect it is felt not worth doing in N.
I am not a DCC user (though I think I am heading that way) but I ran the Farish 108 with sound on DC and was really impressed. I think it is often overlooked that you get a surprising amount of the sound functionality on DC.
Cheers
Ben A.
Quote from: Dr Al on January 11, 2017, 04:43:36 PM
Though of course, you may hate sound, period!
Cheers,
Alan
Got it in one, Alan.
QuoteI think it is often overlooked that you get a surprising amount of the sound functionality on DC
Please elaborate.
My experience is with Zimo chips and they, once set up, give running (synchronized chuffs, electric whine or diesel grind) and random sounds (clanks, steam, whistles) on DC or DCC. What you don't get on DC is the ability to toot your whistle on demand.
Quote from: Snowwolflair on January 12, 2017, 09:12:49 AM
My experience is with Zimo chips and they, once set up, give running (synchronized chuffs, electric whine or diesel grind) and random sounds (clanks, steam, whistles) on DC or DCC. What you don't get on DC is the ability to toot your whistle on demand.
And, presumably, you don't get idling sounds whilst stationary?
Yes idling and any other speed determined sound programmed on the chip are automatic. All you cannot do is deliberately call up specific sounds like bells, horns, doors etc.
Quote from: Snowwolflair on January 12, 2017, 10:08:18 AM
Yes idling and any other speed determined sound programmed on the chip are automatic. All you cannot do is deliberately call up specific sounds like bells, horns, doors etc.
But presumably you need to maintain a small amount of current to the loco on DC to the idle noise? A problem for cab control?
Skyline2uk
Yes, if its set up properly it stops moving under 10% power and the sound stops below 5%. not all sound chips will be the same.
With respect. Rather than foaming about N scale sound (a waste of time IMHO) how about cleaning up the engineering on nem sockets so that they actually work like they are supposed to. Like European models. Sloppy finish makes couplers either point up or down and I for one don't see why I should have to intervene to sort them out when say fleischmann gets them spot on?
Second gripe. Has anybody noticed how easily wheels on B4 bogies pop out? Very troublesome on new MK2as.
Third (class) my standard 5mt won't do a crawl on DCC but DC is fine. They have to sort out this coreless motor thing if they are going to make more like this.
I am not impressed with the quality of engineering. Something goes wrong between the lovely CAD designs and what goes on in China i.e. quality control.
I NEVER had this trouble with German and Japanese makes. :veryangry:
Quote from: Snowwolflair on January 12, 2017, 10:50:46 AM
Yes, if its set up properly it stops moving under 10% power and the sound stops below 5%. not all sound chips will be the same.
This is interesting, I wasn't aware of that.
I am wondering however, is this not bad for the motor? Presumably the motor stops turning at 9% electrical power feed but that means it is in a constant state of stall because it is still receiving power. I'm not a motor expert by any means but can that be good for the windings? :hmmm:
Quote from: Carmont on January 13, 2017, 02:33:57 PM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on January 12, 2017, 10:50:46 AM
Yes, if its set up properly it stops moving under 10% power and the sound stops below 5%. not all sound chips will be the same.
This is interesting, I wasn't aware of that.
I am wondering however, is this not bad for the motor? Presumably the motor stops turning at 9% electrical power feed but that means it is in a constant state of stall because it is still receiving power. I'm not a motor expert by any means but can that be good for the windings? :hmmm:
No, the chip turns the motor off completely at 10% of the range so its quite happy. I'm trying to find a link to the article explaining how to do it.
On any DCC system you can use the speed table to determine where on a range the sound and motor start.
For instance I saw an American layout recently where a 4 loco train +60 gondolas, had the first and fourth loco with motor power but also with sound chips in the middle two dummy locos as well. As the locos pull away two locos are heard but at half speed you hear the second and third locos start up. It was very effective.
Good evening,
I did write to Bachmann and asked for a split headcode Class 40 - pointing out its never been available before in "N", and low and behold 40141 has been announced.
I would like to think my email helped, but I might be deluding myself! After all I did also mention the 25/3, sadly not announced this year.
A good move with the refurbished 31's too. Not any use to myself being a modeller of early/mid 80's Highland mainline, but I am sure the new liveries will be popular. A re-vamped peak maybe some day?
I will also be getting 40159 when it comes out. 40141 is going to be sound-fitted, and the price quoted of £178.00 on one trader's site represents good value compared with the DC version. I might be able to do a de-coder swap for someone who doesn't want the sound, as I definitely do!
And Scotrail Mk1 coaches too - very useful, though I seem to remember the Mk2 coaches carried the branding more often.
Cheers
Paul
Quote from: Ben A on January 11, 2017, 05:02:31 PM
.. I think it is often overlooked that you get a surprising amount of the sound functionality on DC. ...
Not guilty of overlooking it here. Because before reading this thread, I didn't know it. :dunce:
I'm just wondering if the 40141 model is going to be the chicken or the egg... :-\ It has got me considering a DCC controller.. :doh: But... I was also rather taken with the Class 37/4 and West Highland coaches set... which comes with... :hmmm: you guessed it... :uneasy: a DCC controller. ???
Cheers
Mark
Quote from: GreatBigBlue on January 13, 2017, 02:25:55 PM
Third (class) my standard 5mt won't do a crawl on DCC but DC is fine. They have to sort out this coreless motor thing if they are going to make more like this.
If it runs fine on DC but not DCC then it's the DCC fit that's the problem, not the loco. Either the chip is badly configured or badly suited to the model.
Farish coreless motors are excellent, and I've neither seen nor heard of trouble with them.
Cheers,
Alan
Yes I have used a Digitrax decoder and a Gaugemaster (the same?). Seems I should use a lenz silver or something like that?