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Author Topic: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15  (Read 1270 times)

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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2018, 01:58:56 pm »
A few touches of paint and real coal to add, however they have gone together as planned and the sound really brings them to life.





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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2018, 05:39:10 pm »
Hi, impressive finish on these locos. I've got a Langley and BH kits to work on how did you get such a smooth finish on the paint and did the lining come from transfers?

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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2018, 07:02:24 pm »
File softly to remove blemishes and uneven surfaces, then file/burnish with a fibreglass pen.

Games Workshop white as undercoat, burnish then re coat till smooth.

Spray with final coats, three lite ones to build up depth of colour.

Remember to allow 2-3 days after each coat of paint to let it cure, harden and shrink as the paint evaporates.

Transfer are from Fox

Final coat with Phoenix or similar satin varnish, lite coat and not too close to the model.      Leave to harden 2-3 days.


the mistake most often made with painting is being in too much of a hurry.  For this reason I simultaneously build several models.  Each takes longer but the paint results are worth it.
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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2018, 07:52:38 pm »
Thanks for the info I'll give it a go.

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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2018, 12:54:35 pm »
I like the look of your watercart tender on the S15. Is that the white metal Langley version?

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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2018, 01:05:20 pm »
I like the look of your watercart tender on the S15. Is that the white metal Langley version?

Yes with a bit of work

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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2018, 01:09:31 pm »
Didn't you find it to be a bit baulky? I have one that fits over a Fleischmann tender motor and it's quite wide. It doesn't help that the motor itself is incredibly chunky. I'm trying to liaise with a 3D designer to get a thinner, more accurate version made but it's slow going.

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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2018, 01:13:44 pm »
that's the bit of work  :D its a complete rebuild thinning and adjusting the walls etc.

A 3D version could be interesting for other builds but the S15 needs the weight of the white metal for traction.

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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2018, 01:25:15 pm »
I've heard tales of thinning white metals and I have to say that I'm feeling a bit fainthearted about it!

My particular Fleischmann motor (if not all of them) seems to run pretty well without the Langley tender body, even when the loco body is on, so my impression at this point is that a 3D tender body will be okay. The card and paper mock-ups of the 3D tender that I've put together so far for testing purposes show that there's quite a bit of space for adding lead for weighting.

I'm pretty sure that the designer will be happy to produce a proper scale version of the tender once my oversized Fleischmann version is done.

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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2018, 01:34:36 pm »
I've heard tales of thinning white metals and I have to say that I'm feeling a bit fainthearted about it!

My particular Fleischmann motor (if not all of them) seems to run pretty well without the Langley tender body, even when the loco body is on, so my impression at this point is that a 3D tender body will be okay. The card and paper mock-ups of the 3D tender that I've put together so far for testing purposes show that there's quite a bit of space for adding lead for weighting.

I'm pretty sure that the designer will be happy to produce a proper scale version of the tender once my oversized Fleischmann version is done.

Dremel with a flat 1/8th burr and slowly, don't let it get hot. :goggleeyes:

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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2018, 02:13:55 pm »
Have you never heard of the Reg Prescott effect...? ;)


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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2018, 05:00:40 pm »
Re the watercart tenders  for the S15,  the Urie tenders of 504-510 were transferred to N15x class during 1935/36 and replaced by Drummond Watercarts from withdrawn C8 class, they regained Urie tenders between 1955 and '58 from withdrawn Arthurs, all the rest of the Urie S15s had Urie tenders throughout.
Thus you could use the BHE tender with UM drive +extra pair of wheels with the Langley loco body and Fleischmann chassis.

You could also use a Farish B1 loco chassis and make an H15 using Langley or BHE kit for the loco, the early batch (Urie) had the raised footplate over cylinders so Langley, later (Maunsell) had level footplate so BHE.
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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2018, 10:30:04 pm »
The paint jobs are gorgeous. I've never managed to make anything white metal look remotely as good as that.

What's the contraption with the three parallel metal rods in the middle of the oval?

Jim
Believe me. These things always have a logical explanation usually

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Re: Southern Region and Golden Arrow Locos, S15 and N15
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2018, 10:33:35 pm »
The paint jobs are gorgeous. I've never managed to make anything white metal look remotely as good as that.

What's the contraption with the three parallel metal rods in the middle of the oval?

Jim

It a rolling test bed.  The circle is my test track, ie minimum radius with DC and DCC inputs and a wheel cleaning strip as well. 

If it runs round this circle a loco will work anywhere 8)

 

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