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Author Topic: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List  (Read 5526 times)

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2018, 05:16:28 pm »
Well I am happy with the announcement,

One of the 3 missing gaps in my colas fleet filled!  Just needs the 70 and  Dapol to do the 67 pair now!

Also the Virgin 47, GWR 57

Really looking forward to the Scotrail 158

Cheers

Callum

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2018, 05:26:21 pm »
I'll pass up the chance to own a South West Trains 450 unit (£240 estimated from Hattons)

http://www.hattons.co.uk/337674/Graham_Farish_371_725_Class_450_Desiro_4_car_EMU_450073_in_South_West_Trains_livery_Price_is_estimate/StockDetail.aspx

I paid £265 early bird price for Revolution Trains' 9-car Pendolino - looks value for money nowadays!

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2018, 05:26:53 pm »
If you stand back from the padding the only real new model here is the 158

I would not call the 47 new tooling, more revised

Changes to PCBs and some internal molds for speakers are straight forward

In summary only one new model the 158 - poor showing, although it is of interest, the concern is there will unlikely be any change out of £200 for a DCC ready model by the time it hits the retailers

Note Hattons estimate of £179 to draw in pre-orders therefore likely to be close to £200 by the time to usual delays in delivery happen!

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« Last Edit: January 07, 2018, 05:44:52 pm by Rabbitaway »

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2018, 05:41:14 pm »
Would have loved a suburban DMU such as the Class 117 to have been announced seen as OO guys are getting one.
I wonder if Dapol will do them as they already do the Class 121/122's...

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2018, 06:20:09 pm »
I'm happy to hear Farish's latest announcements regards developing and adding to the range.

The modern image items will be well received by me and will be bought over time from a variety of retailers.

As regards the pricing structure and what retail prices will eventually be I think recent history suggests the following will continue to happen;

  • niche liveries like Network Rail, Colas and DRS tend to sell out quickly at RRP - 15% so buy them quick.
new tooling/new technology like sound, equally sell quickly as above
the mainstream will have an initial sales surge then reality kicks in - too much stock - not enough turnover - specials begin - 2017 purchases included 37's and 47's at £70-80, 350's at £75, A2's at £75, Mk1's at £18, NSE set at £150 - all substantively below RRP and the usual discounted prices.

My strategy now is to identify what I would like and if I feel that it will sell out quickly like the Class 40 digital sound model then preorder asap.

Remainder of my purchases I simply wait and see what the market is doing as most of the releases are in stock for months and in some cases years before exhausted, and the major retailers often have sales/specials on most of the year.

N gauge has in my experience always been a reasonably costly hobby both in terms of the individual prices of models and the temptations put before us in the sheer variety now put before us, long may this continue as I would rather have the situation as it is today as opposed to the 80's when I started.

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2018, 06:29:57 pm »
no 47/8 in intercity swallow is strange??? or a res 47???

anyway I've pre ordered the 158 and rtc class 31 and i may get sound chips for them too

no wagons or coaches I want

Tim

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2018, 06:41:22 pm »
List with the RRP added where it has been announced by Farish.
How much of it will arrive before the next price increase?

372-934DS N Class No. 1823 in Southern Railway Lined Maunsell Green (DCC Sound) £239.95
372-935 N Class No. 31810 in weathered BR Black (Late Crest) livery £149.95

371-111A Class 31 No. D5616 in BR Green livery with Small Yellow Panels £129.95
371-112A Class 31 No. 31131 in BR Blue livery £129.95
371-113 Class 31 No. 97204 in BR RTC Grey & Red livery £129.95
372-260 Class 47 No. 47814 'Totnes Castle' in Virgin livery £134.95
372-261DS Class 47 No. 47727 'Rebecca' in Colas livery (DCC Sound) TBA

371-742 Western Pullman 6-Car Unit in Grey/ Blue British Rail Pullman livery £379.95
371-850 Class 158 2-Car DMU No. 158849 in Regional Railways livery TBA
371-851 Class 158 2-Car DMU No. 158711 in ScotRail (Saltire) livery TBA

371-725 Class 450 4-Car EMU No. 450073 in South West Trains livery TBA
370-160 Castle Pullman Digital Sound Train Set £374.95

371-985A Class 64xx Pannier Tank No. 6424 GWR Green £104.95
371-988 Class 64xx Pannier Tank No. 6419 BR Lined Green Late Crest Weathered £104.95
372-828 E1 Class No. 2173 NER Lined Green TBA
372-825 LNER J72 No. 2313 LNER Lined Black TBA
372-826 LNER J72 No. 68733 BR Black Early Emblem TBA
372-827 LNER J72 No. 68696 BR Black Late Crest TBA
372-429 WD Austerity 2-8-0 No. 79250 'Major-General Mc Mullen' LMR Blue £169.95

371-034A Class 20 No. 20156 BR Railfreight Red Stripe £124.95
371-249 Class 47/0 No. 47018 BR Railfreight £134.95
371-825C Class 47/0 No. D1779 BR Green £134.95
371-285A Class 55 No. D9009 ĎAlycidoní BR Two-Tone Green Small Yellow Panel £134.95
371-288 Class 55 No. 55015 'Tulyar' BR Blue £134.95

372-921 DP1 Light Blue & Cream Demonstrator £144.95
371-660 Class 57/6 No. 57603 'Tintagel Castle' GWR £134.95
371-887DS Class 108 3 Car DMU BR Green Speed Whiskers (DCC Sound) £309.95
371-885A Class 108 3 Car DMU BR Blue £219.95
371-888 Class 108 3 Car DMU BR White & Blue £219.95
371-432A Class 170/5 2 Car DMU No. 170501 London Midland £179.95
371-703 Class 350 4 Car EMU No. 350407 TransPennine Express £269.95

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2018, 07:12:12 pm »
Hattons guess at the prices of items Farish haven't announced an RRP for. I would assume that these are the expected RRP - 15%

372-261DS Class 47 No. 47727 'Rebecca' in Colas livery (DCC Sound) £219

371-850 Class 158 2-Car DMU No. 158849 in Regional Railways livery £179
371-851 Class 158 2-Car DMU No. 158711 in ScotRail (Saltire) livery £179

371-725 Class 450 4-Car EMU No. 450073 in South West Trains livery £240

372-828 E1 Class No. 2173 NER Lined Green £111
372-825 LNER J72 No. 2313 LNER Lined Black £90
372-826 LNER J72 No. 68733 BR Black Early Emblem £90
372-827 LNER J72 No. 68696 BR Black Late Crest £90

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2018, 07:32:27 pm »
Hattons guess at the prices of items Farish haven't announced an RRP for. I would assume that these are the expected RRP - 15%

372-261DS Class 47 No. 47727 'Rebecca' in Colas livery (DCC Sound) £219

371-850 Class 158 2-Car DMU No. 158849 in Regional Railways livery £179
371-851 Class 158 2-Car DMU No. 158711 in ScotRail (Saltire) livery £179

371-725 Class 450 4-Car EMU No. 450073 in South West Trains livery £240

372-828 E1 Class No. 2173 NER Lined Green £111
372-825 LNER J72 No. 2313 LNER Lined Black £90
372-826 LNER J72 No. 68733 BR Black Early Emblem £90
372-827 LNER J72 No. 68696 BR Black Late Crest £90

I wonder, actually, if these are RRP as well. The 3 car 108 is £220RRP. Take the 15% off (£33), then that drops to £187, for three cars. It would seem a bit much for the 158 to be retailing at £8 less for only two cars, albeit latest up-to-date tooling, bells, whistles, etc.

I could be wrong, but I have to say I hope I'm right.......

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2018, 08:08:33 pm »
I suspect that where Hattons have had to guess prices to facilitate pre-orders because Farish haven't fixed them yet they will over estimate rather than under so as to mitigate risk of cancellations.

A green 31 at £129,95 with Next 18 socket and plug and play sound capability actually doesn't look so bad. A max 15% discount brings it down to around £110 which I think for what you get is pretty reasonable. The same can be said for the similar 47 and yes, a state of the art 158 for maybe £160 discounted ditto.

If a weathered 64xx is your thing then around the £89 for a current spec DCC ready loco, coreless motor and all probably is too.

However, with regard to the Desiro 450, if the chassis has not been upgraded and it still has a can motor and needs 3 chips to fully DCC it I personally cannot understand how Bachmann see a RRP of £269.95 as realistic given the challenge selling through the first run of Desiros. That would make a max discounted price of just shy of £230. It may be where they need to pitch it, but I just can't see many selling.

Roy

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2018, 08:56:35 pm »
There's normally a premium for factory weathering so summat doesn't look right with the 64xx pricing :hmmm:

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2018, 09:01:30 pm »
There's normally a premium for factory weathering so summat doesn't look right with the 64xx pricing :hmmm:

I agree, but if that is the price and it's nearly as good as the 00 version I'll selling my factory fresh version.


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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2018, 09:12:35 pm »
There's normally a premium for factory weathering so summat doesn't look right with the 64xx pricing :hmmm:

Kernow and Model Rail Direct both have the RRP the same for the weathered version. Hattons price is also the same for the weathered version

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2018, 09:43:07 pm »
BACHMANN 2018/19 RELEASES
371-288 Class 55 No. 55015 'Tulyar' BR Blue
First time a BR Blue liveried Deltic with white window surrounds has been modelled in N Scale


If only they'd looked at their past products before making such a statement (maybe they thought this model was N Gauge!)

Graham Farish 8416 - 55009 Alcydon 

« Last Edit: January 07, 2018, 09:44:57 pm by Lindi »

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Re: Graham Farish New Product Announcement - 2018 Full List
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2018, 09:47:06 pm »
 :laughabovepost:

Skyline2uk
LNER A3 and A4....check
Deltic.....check
HST set......surely?!

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=4129.msg46795#msg46795

 

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