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Author Topic: Peco wagon kits - mini review  (Read 9683 times)

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Offline MalcolmAL

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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #60 on: June 15, 2015, 12:40:26 pm »
Arrrgh !
My 12th kit, my seond BR brake van,
and I have managed to wring its neck, well one plastic spigot on it ! :(

Grrrr, out with the glue , , ,

What a *%#$  &^* design from an engineering point of view !


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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #61 on: June 15, 2015, 12:42:28 pm »
Double-sided tape is not bad for attaching wagon bodies to Peco 10' chassis.

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Joe

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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #62 on: June 15, 2015, 12:53:26 pm »
I like cheap superglue

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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #63 on: June 15, 2015, 01:07:12 pm »
Thanks guys,
fractionly too late for this one but noted for the future, I'm sure there will be more ! Whata%*% etc ! :)
My superglue must be too cheep cos it didnt :(
Now it is clarted up with one of my many varieties of UHU.

If that doesna woik I'll go out and buy another super in case and a roll of double sticky as well.

Joe : I like that idea, at least I wont get my fingers superglued together !
My first thought was that the extra thicknes of the (2 ?) layers of tape would give space for droopy coupling.
My seond thought was obviously not ! cos you are using it !!
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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #64 on: June 15, 2015, 06:29:32 pm »
You have to be careful with the brand of tape you use - the thinner the better and the softer the better.

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Joe

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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #65 on: June 15, 2015, 09:24:06 pm »
When I get home today I will see if I can did one out of the stock box, and photograph it
Thanks Paul but no worries, I've found pics of the rtr Peco version on the web, so thats ok :)
( I shud av thort of that before ! duh!! )


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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #66 on: June 20, 2015, 09:20:06 pm »
Looking good, Rich.

Peco wagons are VFM and you can upgrade the axles to GF ones of which I have plenty of spares.

Quite right about the paint. I struggled like mad to get a decent finish with artists' stuff and gave up with it. Not got any modellers' paint but now prompted to get some in.

Dave G

Cheers, I have a good few packs of the GF axles but finding them too-wide for Peco (I have a post about this somewhere where apparently Parside Dundas axles are more of a direct swap).  Nevertheless, for an aerosol of halfords primer and a couple of Tamiya paints plus Daler varnish it can't be beat for the cost / time.  In any case the Peco kits are such good VFM in my oppinion.  Have been looking at Dapols' unpainted Siphon G's for a while at 6 compared to 15+ RTR but it seems they're all "outside framed" so no good for BR blue 70-80's days!?

Rich
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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2015, 03:37:26 pm »
Looking good, Rich.

Peco wagons are VFM and you can upgrade the axles to GF ones of which I have plenty of spares.

Quite right about the paint. I struggled like mad to get a decent finish with artists' stuff and gave up with it. Not got any modellers' paint but now prompted to get some in.

Dave G

Cheers, I have a good few packs of the GF axles but finding them too-wide for Peco (I have a post about this somewhere where apparently Parside Dundas axles are more of a direct swap).  Nevertheless, for an aerosol of halfords primer and a couple of Tamiya paints plus Daler varnish it can't be beat for the cost / time.  In any case the Peco kits are such good VFM in my oppinion.  Have been looking at Dapols' unpainted Siphon G's for a while at 6 compared to 15+ RTR but it seems they're all "outside framed" so no good for BR blue 70-80's days!?

Rich

The new Graham Farish axles will fit Peco chassis, the just need the following tweak for either spoked or three hole discs, just place the axle in place as usual, then holding the wagon by the axleboxes either side of the new axle, squeeze firmly but carefully then check that the wheel set runs free, if not, repeat the exercise, 2 applications of pressure are usually enough. I have treated about 40 peco wagons in this manner and all run as well as if not better than untreated stock with the benefit that they do not seem to pick up the deposit that plastic wheels seem to.

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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #68 on: December 06, 2017, 11:46:54 pm »
Sorry to dredge up an old thread and all that.... but  have a dumb question concerning the Peco kits. Do they come with the chassis, or do you need to buy the chassis separately?
Still planning a layout...

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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #69 on: December 07, 2017, 06:02:42 am »
They come complete with chassis wheels and couplings but they do need to be painted. They may be old fashioned but if you want a lot of wagons for a small outlay they are brilliant. They are pretty easy to put together. Its best to paint them before assembly.

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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #70 on: December 07, 2017, 08:40:15 am »
Totally agree for about 4 a piece you can make up quite a rake. Definitely take this advice total pain as I found out  :laugh:

Its best to paint them before assembly.

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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #71 on: December 07, 2017, 08:50:30 am »
I've always reckoned that Peco mineral wagons in a long rake  look OK. The kit way is most certainly cheaper!

Plus you can weather them yourself... plenty advice here!  :thumbsup:
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #72 on: December 07, 2017, 09:42:22 am »
They come with plastic wheels but are easily replaced with Farish metal spares.
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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #73 on: December 07, 2017, 10:18:28 am »
I have made up several wagon kits over the years.

Peco ones are fairly simple. The NGS ones available to members need a bit more thought. My opinion is that kits will become more attractive as prices of rtr continue to rise.
The old Parkside Dundas are now owned by Peco and now called Parkside. These can be a bit tricky getting the solebars in exactly the right position. They will hopefully have clearer instructions in future, and less will get thrown at the cat!

Peco have hinted they will expand the Parkside range.

I would like to think that the NGS will do the same with their wagon range once they have sorted out some tooling/parts problems. Thankfully they do have a dedicated team of volunteers working towards getting the kit range fully running again.

I see a bright future for kits. Bulk deals to build a rake would probably go down well, enabling a production line scenario...helpful if airbrushing.

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Re: Peco wagon kits - mini review
« Reply #74 on: December 07, 2017, 10:42:51 am »
They come with plastic wheels but are easily replaced with Farish metal spares.

Exactly what I did. Think it improves the running as well.

Dave G

 

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