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« on: February 23, 2015, 11:56:33 am »
After a couple of years working on the Bexhill Model Railway Clubs (BMRC) N gauge layout ‘Ensbury’, it is now certain that it will be ready for its first outing to our (BMRC) club exhibition in August or this year.

So as I have never had a layout of my own, I have decided that I should build myself one that doesn’t involve every item of its construction and operation requiring a democratic decision to implement it!

Also with the falling number of younger people entering our hobby I am taking the opportunity to start from a fresh viewpoint that maybe some of us older modellers do not normally consider.

1)   Many people have limited space in which to place their layout, and may in fact not even own the space into which they are going to build and operate it.
2)   Very few have a garage or separate room into which they can escape to build or operate it.
3)   Not many people have access to a wide variety of hand or power tools, nor enough bits, bobs, widgets and screws to overcome that niggling problem that arises.
4)   Nobody wants to make the kind of mess that woodworking and related operations create.
5)   Everybody wants quick and enjoyable results.
6)   Modern technology and techniques are sometimes ignored by the seasoned modeller.

In order to attempt to answer some or all of the above I have decided to embark on the design and build of my own personal layout taking heed of the points raised above.

My own requirements stem from those things which I have done in the recent past.

7)   I have only ever embraced DCC. All my locos are DCC fitted and points should be DCC controlled.
8      I have only collected ‘fixed’ trains i.e. specific locos hauling specific rakes of coaches and wagons, which means that I need a minimum 750mm of station length.
a.   Arnold Brighton Belle.
b.   Dapol Britannia ‘Iron Duke’ and a 5 car rake of Pullman coaches, Set up as ‘Golden Arrow’.
c.   Dapol Class 67 ‘Royal Sovereign’ and a 5 car rake of late Pullman coaches. My version of the Royal Train.
d.   Dapol Class 66 in Colas livery with rake of 5 Auto ballasters.

9)   Needs to be compatible with JMRI as a ‘Front End’
10)   Needs to be light weight.

I will not apologise for the fact that cost is not a factor for me but some savings should become obvious as the project progresses.

So the plan is to proceed with the following:
   
11)   Layout will be designed using XtrkCAD purely for the reason that the track plan can be imported into the JMRI Panel Pro
12)   Layout will be Approx ‘Door Size’ i.e. 2m * 0.8m (6ft 6in * 2ft 6in).
13)   Track will be Peco code 55 and laid at a minimum radius 250mm.
14)   Turnouts will be Peco SL-ExxxF Medium Radius.
15)   Baseboard(s) will be light, movable, easy and quick to construct.

Rule 1 will apply! so wish me luck, or shoot me down in flames.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2017, 07:21:01 pm by Only Me »
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Re: A New Start
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2015, 12:02:56 pm »
Your project sounds interesting so I will follow your progress, I too  am a firm believer in Rule 1.
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Re: A New Start
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2015, 12:42:09 pm »
Sounds like a fair plan to me, Colin, although I know half of naff all about DCC.

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Re: A New Start
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2015, 02:10:40 pm »
Will watch your progress with interest, Colin. An ambitious plan!
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Re: A New Start
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2015, 02:29:13 pm »
Interesting....

The layout will be "door sized".............
Lightweight and easy to construct without woodworking mess......

Where are we heading?  ;D

Cheers  Jon  :)
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Re: A New Start
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2015, 07:12:04 am »
This is the track plan that will form the basis of my new layout.
It is based entirely on a C.J. Freezer track plan 'Colstead' published in 1988!
The baseboard join is sited to give me the least number of tracks crossing the join at an angle.
I cannot make them all parallel to the baseboard join I expect this may be a challenge but we shall see.

Also I have added the following 3 pics to split the views
1-Main (lower) level

Upper level

Slope from lower to upper


The slope is just slightly under 3%
The plan footprint is 2meters X 0.9m (slightly wider that a standard door)

I have managed to get to grips with XtrkCAD but have yet to find a parameter file that contains buildings and structures, so I will probably
just put coloured blocks for footprints.



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Re: A New Start
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2015, 07:34:49 am »
Following along here in Aus!  :thumbsup:
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Re: A New Start
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2015, 07:58:40 am »
Interesting....

The layout will be "door sized".............
Lightweight and easy to construct without woodworking mess......

Where are we heading?  ;D

Cheers  Jon  :)
I am looking at using Woodland Scenics products wherever possible.
Therefore working on the principle that I start with nothing, then the initial product would be two of their ST4802 Mod-U-Rail. Everything in the box that you need.
I am aware that two of these 'kits' will give me a layout of only 6ft x 3ft (1.82m x 0.9m) so I am 180mm short! (no comments please) and therefore will need to extend using additional material from their range.

Tools limited to a hot wire cutter. (Well almost), and a screwdriver to remove the bedroom door and place on the bed as a temporary level solid base.
Note: Only remove the bathroom door if you live alone.
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Re: A New Start
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2015, 08:41:32 am »
Aaaaah....

I had imagined you were going to use a flush door, but I will be very interested in your chosen method - there are so many options available other than the traditional wood frame and plywood!

Cheers  Jon  :)
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Re: A New Start
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2015, 08:42:11 am »
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Re: A New Start
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2015, 02:39:16 pm »
Aaaaah....

I had imagined you were going to use a flush door, but I will be very interested in your chosen method - there are so many options available other than the traditional wood frame and plywood!

Cheers  Jon  :)
Trouble with using a door for a layout is the weight factor. Even cut down mine is heavy for me to move but then I am basically disabled  :thumbsdown:
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Re: A New Start
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2015, 05:54:43 pm »
...depends which type you go for.   The ones I use are much lighter than a traditional construction.

Cheers  Jon  :)
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Re: A New Start
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2015, 09:22:17 am »
The need to plan this project is of paramount importance as there is little opportunity for change in the future owing to the nature of the Woodland Scenics Mod-U-Rail construction 

Looking at the installation of points and motors especially, and with regard to the Scissor X over at the terminus station entry on the upper level I have to consider the following

    Cutting the track risers to accommodate point motors provides a gap into which a directly fitted Peco PL-10 point motor will drop. thus eliminating the need to fit a bridging piece of 3mm ply under the point to support a separately fixed point motor (Seep, Conrad, Tortoise etc).
 
     If I do use PL-10 throughout the layout can I fit the Peco PL-15 dual Microswitch below the point motor ie from the top:- Point/PL-10/PL-15?

Would any member recommend the Fleischmann rail joiners and isolation joiners in preference to the Peco ones bearing in mind I propose to use code55 track and points.
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Re: A New Start
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2015, 09:36:20 am »
Back in the 90s anything that started with Fleischmann was cool. Back then I would have recommended Fleischmann... except it was code 80... not sure about 55.
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Re: A New Start
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2015, 03:26:53 pm »
Wow that is some track plan - looking forward to seeing you make progress.

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