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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #75 on: January 29, 2015, 02:01:56 pm »
My pre-order with Kernow is being despatched, according the the email I've just received.  :bounce:  :claphappy:  :laugh:
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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #76 on: January 29, 2015, 03:42:29 pm »
I saw Kernow's online announcement this morning that they had theirs. Looks like it's a race to assemble the first rake of brand new Maunsells...

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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #77 on: January 29, 2015, 03:53:55 pm »
I have a little race of my own going on: Kernow have half my order, Model Railways Direct have the other half. Now will the parcel from Kernow arrive before I get the Email from MRD and I nip over to Portishead to collect...  :)
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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #78 on: January 30, 2015, 09:26:19 am »
Did these ever end up in crimson/cream or maroon on the Southern region under BR? Very hard to tell from B&W photos!

These look ace but one thing's bugging me... these are in SR 'Big Four' olive/Maunsell green right? What suitable traction is there for these lovely models currently on sale? I know the Farish N class is coming out in Southern olive green but it seems a bit silly that Dapol have left production of a Schools class in Maunsell olive green to a special limited numbers commission by Cheltenham models (which in itself could've not ended up being Maunsell...)

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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #79 on: January 30, 2015, 09:38:14 am »
Did these ever end up in crimson/cream or maroon on the Southern region under BR? Very hard to tell from B&W photos!

Crimson and cream, yes.
Maroon, no.

In the late 50s, the SR painted all of their coaches green and ignored Maroon all together. The only SR coaches I know of to wear Maroon were a handful of Bulleids that wound up in Scotland.

These look ace but one thing's bugging me... these are in SR 'Big Four' olive/Maunsell green right? What suitable traction is there for these lovely models currently on sale? I know the Farish N class is coming out in Southern olive green but it seems a bit silly that Dapol have left production of a Schools class in Maunsell olive green to a special limited numbers commission by Cheltenham models (which in itself could've not ended up being Maunsell...)

I agree, there does seem to be a slight failure of joined up thinking here. The only express RTR locos I can think of that are available currently to pull Maunsell coaches in original livery are from Union Mills. Their T9 would look great at the head of a rake.



If you are looking a little lower down the power scale, Dapol do (or have done) an M7 in Maunsell Olive and a Terrier too.





Otherwise it is a case of waiting for the Schools and Mogul.
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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #80 on: January 30, 2015, 11:32:28 am »
You could also use the BHE N15 kit or Langley S15 kit, the Union Mills 700 could appear on branch line passenger, so could the Dapol Q1 in WW2 period and up to nationalisation; Spam cans could also pull Maunsells in olive, not all received malachite before BR blood and custard, I also saw a 3 set of Maunsells in plum and spilt milk on a Waterloo Weymouth service.

On a Somerset and Dorset layout you could use UM 2P or 3F Farish black 5, 4F or Jinty.
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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #81 on: January 30, 2015, 01:32:29 pm »
Thanks for the haulage ideas Karlhedron and Mike. Could they have they been pulled by Fairburn tanks in the BR period?

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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #82 on: January 30, 2015, 01:41:28 pm »
Thanks for the haulage ideas Karlhedron and Mike. Could they have they been pulled by Fairburn tanks in the BR period?


Well, it's a high-window one, but the first coach behind the Fairburn in this picture is a Maunsell (in Crimson/Cream):

http://www.semgonline.com/steam/pics/Fairburn05.jpg

I think in practice, as most, if not all, of the Restriction 4 low-window Maunsells were on LSWR lines and the Fairburns were mainly to be found in East Sussex and Kent, it would be a rare occurrence where the Dapol models are concerned...

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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #83 on: January 30, 2015, 02:10:24 pm »
Thanks for the haulage ideas Karlhedron and Mike. Could they have they been pulled by Fairburn tanks in the BR period?

In the BR period, you have a lot more choice. Standard 3MT and 4MT tanks and standard 4 2-6-0s were common on the SR. I think both Standard and Ivatt 2MTs could be seen too. Not sure about Fairburns.

You could even get GWR types. Both Weymouth and Folkstone had panniers for shunting at times. Churchward Moguls sometimes hauled SR stock on the North Downs line and the WR and SR locos used to use each others' routes between Exeter and Plymouth on a regular basis in case the route knowledge was needed for diversions.

Of course they would probably have been in C&C or BR(S) green by then.

Standard 4 2-6-0 (Farish) on Maunsells


Standard tank (with slightly different High windowed maunsells)


GWR Pannier on mixed SR stock at Folkstone. Boat trains often added loose vehicles.


Neither the list or the photos are comprehensive, there are probably some locos I have forgotten. But hopefully it shows that much more varied motive power that is suitable is available in the BR era.
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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #84 on: January 30, 2015, 02:21:39 pm »
Most of the Brighton-built Fairburns were used in East Sussex and Kent on local services in the mid-50s, until Brighton produced enough Standard versions so that the LMS machines could be shuffled off to where they should have been in the first place.

This is why I've got the Farish BR early emblem model (the 1:1 version was shedded at various locations in Kent) to use with my mid-50s stock...
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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #85 on: January 31, 2015, 10:32:30 am »
Two brake 3rds and 2 compos arrived, they certainly look good, and have the corridor connection bits , photo to follow later unles someone beats me to it.
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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #86 on: January 31, 2015, 12:35:03 pm »
I have collected my parcel from the Post Office. One each of TK, BTK, CK, FK and Van C. The corridor connection system looks interesting, as soon as I've got the hang of it and done some testing, I'll report back... :)
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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #87 on: January 31, 2015, 12:42:43 pm »
Hattons doesn't even seem to have its stock in yet. I'm going to be late to the party...

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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #88 on: January 31, 2015, 01:37:20 pm »
Hattons doesn't even seem to have its stock in yet. I'm going to be late to the party...

Neither, apparently, has Model Railways Direct, who have the other half of my pre-orders...
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Re: Dapol Maunsell coaches
« Reply #89 on: January 31, 2015, 03:45:57 pm »
Herewith photos, the detail is excellent, coupling is quite close and with the corridor connections extended and the slot in piece inserted they look even better

T9 heading 2 BTKs and a CK, no corridor connections extended to show coupling distance.
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Close up of the corridor connection extended
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corridor connections joined; note also detail of lining and lettering and Smoking (green ) & No smoking signs (red) in compartrment windows
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The bit of plastic, slots into the extended corridor connections
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