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Your Layout and Models => Layout Construction => Topic started by: colpatben on February 23, 2015, 11:56:33 am

Title: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on February 23, 2015, 11:56:33 am
After a couple of years working on the Bexhill Model Railway Clubs (BMRC) N gauge layout ‘Ensbury’, it is now certain that it will be ready for its first outing to our (BMRC) club exhibition in August or this year.

So as I have never had a layout of my own, I have decided that I should build myself one that doesn’t involve every item of its construction and operation requiring a democratic decision to implement it!

Also with the falling number of younger people entering our hobby I am taking the opportunity to start from a fresh viewpoint that maybe some of us older modellers do not normally consider.

1)   Many people have limited space in which to place their layout, and may in fact not even own the space into which they are going to build and operate it.
2)   Very few have a garage or separate room into which they can escape to build or operate it.
3)   Not many people have access to a wide variety of hand or power tools, nor enough bits, bobs, widgets and screws to overcome that niggling problem that arises.
4)   Nobody wants to make the kind of mess that woodworking and related operations create.
5)   Everybody wants quick and enjoyable results.
6)   Modern technology and techniques are sometimes ignored by the seasoned modeller.

In order to attempt to answer some or all of the above I have decided to embark on the design and build of my own personal layout taking heed of the points raised above.

My own requirements stem from those things which I have done in the recent past.

7)   I have only ever embraced DCC. All my locos are DCC fitted and points should be DCC controlled.
8      I have only collected ‘fixed’ trains i.e. specific locos hauling specific rakes of coaches and wagons, which means that I need a minimum 750mm of station length.
a.   Arnold Brighton Belle.
b.   Dapol Britannia ‘Iron Duke’ and a 5 car rake of Pullman coaches, Set up as ‘Golden Arrow’.
c.   Dapol Class 67 ‘Royal Sovereign’ and a 5 car rake of late Pullman coaches. My version of the Royal Train.
d.   Dapol Class 66 in Colas livery with rake of 5 Auto ballasters.

9)   Needs to be compatible with JMRI as a ‘Front End’
10)   Needs to be light weight.

I will not apologise for the fact that cost is not a factor for me but some savings should become obvious as the project progresses.

So the plan is to proceed with the following:
   
11)   Layout will be designed using XtrkCAD purely for the reason that the track plan can be imported into the JMRI Panel Pro
12)   Layout will be Approx ‘Door Size’ i.e. 2m * 0.8m (6ft 6in * 2ft 6in).
13)   Track will be Peco code 55 and laid at a minimum radius 250mm.
14)   Turnouts will be Peco SL-ExxxF Medium Radius.
15)   Baseboard(s) will be light, movable, easy and quick to construct.

Rule 1 will apply! so wish me luck, or shoot me down in flames.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Ditape on February 23, 2015, 12:02:56 pm
Your project sounds interesting so I will follow your progress, I too  am a firm believer in Rule 1.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on February 23, 2015, 12:42:09 pm
Sounds like a fair plan to me, Colin, although I know half of naff all about DCC.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Malc on February 23, 2015, 02:10:40 pm
Will watch your progress with interest, Colin. An ambitious plan!
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: PostModN66 on February 23, 2015, 02:29:13 pm
Interesting....

The layout will be "door sized".............
Lightweight and easy to construct without woodworking mess......

Where are we heading?  ;D

Cheers  Jon  :)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on February 25, 2015, 07:12:04 am
This is the track plan that will form the basis of my new layout.
It is based entirely on a C.J. Freezer track plan 'Colstead' published in 1988!
The baseboard join is sited to give me the least number of tracks crossing the join at an angle.
I cannot make them all parallel to the baseboard join I expect this may be a challenge but we shall see.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22056.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22056)
Also I have added the following 3 pics to split the views
1-Main (lower) level
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22057.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22057)
Upper level
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22059.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22059)
Slope from lower to upper
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22058.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22058)

The slope is just slightly under 3%
The plan footprint is 2meters X 0.9m (slightly wider that a standard door)

I have managed to get to grips with XtrkCAD but have yet to find a parameter file that contains buildings and structures, so I will probably
just put coloured blocks for footprints.



Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on February 25, 2015, 07:34:49 am
Following along here in Aus!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on February 25, 2015, 07:58:40 am
Interesting....

The layout will be "door sized".............
Lightweight and easy to construct without woodworking mess......

Where are we heading?  ;D

Cheers  Jon  :)
I am looking at using Woodland Scenics products wherever possible.
Therefore working on the principle that I start with nothing, then the initial product would be two of their ST4802 Mod-U-Rail. Everything in the box that you need.
I am aware that two of these 'kits' will give me a layout of only 6ft x 3ft (1.82m x 0.9m) so I am 180mm short! (no comments please) and therefore will need to extend using additional material from their range.

Tools limited to a hot wire cutter. (Well almost), and a screwdriver to remove the bedroom door and place on the bed as a temporary level solid base.
Note: Only remove the bathroom door if you live alone.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: PostModN66 on February 25, 2015, 08:41:32 am
Aaaaah....

I had imagined you were going to use a flush door, but I will be very interested in your chosen method - there are so many options available other than the traditional wood frame and plywood!

Cheers  Jon  :)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on February 25, 2015, 08:42:11 am
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: jonclox on February 25, 2015, 02:39:16 pm
Aaaaah....

I had imagined you were going to use a flush door, but I will be very interested in your chosen method - there are so many options available other than the traditional wood frame and plywood!

Cheers  Jon  :)
Trouble with using a door for a layout is the weight factor. Even cut down mine is heavy for me to move but then I am basically disabled  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: PostModN66 on February 25, 2015, 05:54:43 pm
...depends which type you go for.   The ones I use are much lighter than a traditional construction.

Cheers  Jon  :)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on February 26, 2015, 09:22:17 am
The need to plan this project is of paramount importance as there is little opportunity for change in the future owing to the nature of the Woodland Scenics Mod-U-Rail construction 

Looking at the installation of points and motors especially, and with regard to the Scissor X over at the terminus station entry on the upper level I have to consider the following

    Cutting the track risers to accommodate point motors provides a gap into which a directly fitted Peco PL-10 point motor will drop. thus eliminating the need to fit a bridging piece of 3mm ply under the point to support a separately fixed point motor (Seep, Conrad, Tortoise etc).
 
     If I do use PL-10 throughout the layout can I fit the Peco PL-15 dual Microswitch below the point motor ie from the top:- Point/PL-10/PL-15?

Would any member recommend the Fleischmann rail joiners and isolation joiners in preference to the Peco ones bearing in mind I propose to use code55 track and points.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on February 26, 2015, 09:36:20 am
Back in the 90s anything that started with Fleischmann was cool. Back then I would have recommended Fleischmann... except it was code 80... not sure about 55.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Paddy on February 26, 2015, 03:26:53 pm
Wow that is some track plan - looking forward to seeing you make progress.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on February 26, 2015, 05:14:46 pm
Modified the track plan 'cos I realised that there was no access  to the sidings and depot except by reversing back from the station roads!
Now added a third track up the incline
Also shifted the reversing loop slightly
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22094.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22094)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 02, 2015, 07:40:59 am
Lightweight layout update 2nd March 2015

I have revised and probably settled on the Track Plan shown here:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22253.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22253)

As you can see I have added some Road, Structure and Water to the plan which will develop along with the build.

The water feature is to basically use a Liddle End canal lock that I bought several years ago.

You will see that I have two borders around the perimeter of the base board (two tone blue) this represents the actual thickness of the 1in (25mm) ‘Profile Boards’ that are necessary to make the structure ridged plus a further ¾ in (20mm) that gives clearance to the  track from the outside profile edge.

I have bought a Mod-U-Rail 3ft x 3ft (900mm x 900 mm) kit and have assembled the basic box. This is how I discovered the need to subtract the 1¾ inches (45mm) from the outside dimension on my track plan before drawing the track.

I won’t go into the basic construction as there are various articles and videos on the Woodland Scenics website, but if I do come across a specific problem and more importantly a solution I will highlight it.

With the Main track plan for R/H Side printed and laid into the basic box I can now see where I am going!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22254.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22254)

I will give my insight as to the suitability of the Mod-u-Rail system as we progress. For now I will say that it is aimed more towards a simple one or two track plan set in rocky terrain, as there are lots of rocks and gravel in the kit and not much to allow larger Flat areas to be constructed without the purchase of additional construction items.
On the plus side from a construction and scenic point of view everything is in the kit (except the track).
Several adhesives, grass in various colours (colors!), trees kit, rocks, ballast, paint literally everything, so if I were a complete beginner I could produce something very striking without constant trips to the shops (both those on-line and real).

I will write about tools etc in a few days.

Rule 1 does apply!
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 09, 2015, 03:17:13 am
As I am V slowly getting on with track laying on the Main (Lower) level for the R/H baseboard (Spring in the Garden).
I thought I would publish the wiring diagram for the Main (Lower) level, both Left and Right

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22585.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22585)

The upper level is somewhat more complex

It seems to me that there are modellers who do not bother with a wiring diagram and then two years later have a problem which they cannot solve for the lack of one. When asking advice on short circuits, overloads, and just 'It Stopped Working'  a lack of an accurate record will result in lot of head scratching!

 
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on March 09, 2015, 03:26:49 am
Tell me about it. I'm currently attempting to restore my ancient layout, and although I started documenting everything when I commenced in 1987, extra circuitry crept in, and it's well, let's say, a challenge.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 11, 2015, 04:10:45 am
One of the prime reasons for choosing polystyrene foam as construction material was to make it as clean as possible; therefore use of all tools should result in little or no residue during construction.

Here are some pictures of suitable tools. (I have just found a new use for that redundant card table!)
Note: No sawing tools.

Hot wire foam cutter with a wide/deep throat and a cutting guide.
Foam knife for those smaller cuts.
7inch kitchen knife, for those larger straight cuts, along with a steel or sharpening stone to keep it sharp because you want to cut not crush.
Straight edge, this boxwood rule has a brass insert along its full length as a cutting guide.
Low melting point hot glue gun and low melting point glue sticks. This speeds construction, if one uses liquid glue (PVA) you will need to leave each join for 24 hours to set.
If using a dual temperature gun always check the temperature setting is on LOW at the start of each session because the high setting will melt the polystyrene foam, trust me on this!
Soft pencils, I have both a 2B and 5B these will draw on the foam easily without leaving an indentation.
Foam nails for holding and positioning foam parts before gluing (when I was a lad these were called modelling or T pins!)
Pointed kebab sticks for boring small holes.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22645.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22645)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22646.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22646)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22647.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22647)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22648.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22648)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22649.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22649)

Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: silly moo on March 11, 2015, 05:29:26 am
I am also using polystryrene extensively for my layout. I make use of most of the tools you have mentioned with one extra. A Stanley surform shaver, which is a small surform, I use this to smooth off and sculpt the surface of the polystryrene once it has been glued in place. It makes rather a mess with polystryrene beads going everywhere but you can get nice curved shapes to your landforms.

After the sculpting process a thin layer of Polyfilla can be added to the surface but it's not always necessary, PVA paint is often enough.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 11, 2015, 09:14:40 am
The first stage of Woodland Scenics module construction will produce a basic open fronted box 36in x 36in x 8in high on the back and sides (900mm x 900mmx 200mm).

With the Main track plan for R/H Side Lower Level printed and laid into the basic box I can now see where I am going!

What is immediately obvious is that the method suggested for joining tracks between modules is similar to that adopted by most clubs that build Modular Layouts to use short pieces of track to bridge the join. As the upper level of my layout has several tracks crossing between modules at an angle, and I intend to build using Code 55 track then this will not provide a suitable solution.

To that end my initial thoughts are to fit alignment dowels on the joining faces and then fit some form of ‘Hard Edge’ to support copper clad strips to which the crossing rails can be soldered in the classic exhibition layout format.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22644.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22644)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22643.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22643) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22642.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22642)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22641.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22641)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 11, 2015, 06:14:06 pm
Shown here is the Woodland Scenics method of joining two modules together which basically consists of a strip of Masonite (Hardboard) with a series of holes through which a bolts are pushed to align with and fix to the next module.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22667.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22667)
This will not suit my needs so I have purchased two pairs of Pattern Makers dowels and attached them to blocks of wood which are then recessed in cut-outs in the box side and glued to the Masonite. The two modules will be fixed together using over centre toggles instead of the bolts supplied by Woodland Scenics.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22670.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22670)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22671.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22671)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22669.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22669)
You will also see that I have reduced the height of the side of this box to allow the lower level tracks to pass to the L/H Module.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22668.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22668)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on March 11, 2015, 08:34:45 pm
It certainly looks a neat, lightweight construction method, Colin. I'll be following this with interest especially regarding durability (knocks, bumps etc) :hmmm:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 12, 2015, 07:15:31 am
I'll be following this with interest especially regarding durability (knocks, bumps etc) :hmmm:
It seems robust at the current stage of construction which seems well within its capability to withstand twisting and handling generally.
The final finish is to cover all sides with plaster cloth which will tucked under the base by an inch or two so a hard shell is produced.
We shall see if it will survive long term. Keeping the weight as low as practical will be the key.
I haven't settled on a base/frame construction yet but it should ultimately provide some additional support.
Currently it sits perfectly on a dining room table!
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: silly moo on March 12, 2015, 07:39:26 am
I think that a lot of layouts are over engineered and too heavy but it does depend on how they are going to be used. There's a tradition of building wooden baseboards that was started when polystyrene wasn't available.

If they are going to be chucked into the back of a van and taken to an exhibition they need to be robust.

If they are going to stay at home and not moved around much then light weight materials work well.

There's no reason why a polystryrene layout couldn't be exhibited it would just need to be transported with care.

 :pmsign:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on March 12, 2015, 07:44:24 am
Most intriguing. My old layout is most certainly over-engineered and I too, am following along with interest.  :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: silly moo on March 12, 2015, 07:52:08 am
I have two polystyrene layouts, one in 00 which is nearly complete and rests on the top of a pool table and the latest in N which is in the process of being built.

The N layout has a rigid styrene base that rests on a small table and scenery and trackbeds which are being formed out of the lighter type of polystyrene. I don't envisage there being any problems with damage as the layouts aren't moved around much.

The fact that they are both so lightweight is an advantage if they do need moving. I can even turn them upside down to shake off excess scatter material!
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 15, 2015, 09:29:07 am
I spent a few hours yesterday considering the possible methods to providing a stable cross module track support and have mocked up what would seem to be a viable solution.

The standard construction to support the track is to fix a 2inch (50mm) riser into the base box, top this with plaster cloth, then glue down a foam track bed (underlay) and finally lay and ballast track. Note everything you need is in the kit with the exception of the track.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22861.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22861) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22860.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22860)

For anyone interested, the Mod-U-Rail construction booklet can be downloaded from the Woodland Scenics website and the product code is ST4802.

The cross module support utilises the additional height that the foam track bed 1/8 inch (3mm) is above the riser and module edge, which is cut short from the edge and replaced by a strip of 1/8 inch (3mm) ply then on top of this is glued and screwed a similar sized strip of copper clad fibreglass board onto which the track ends can be soldered (having first removed the sleepers). I am hoping that this will provide enough insulated barrier to prevent the action of soldering from destroying the underlying foam.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22862.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22862) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22863.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22863) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22864.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22864)

Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 16, 2015, 08:25:14 am
Yesterday fitted all risers into box for R/H side module. We can now see how the track will be laid following the curves of the risers.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22952.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22952)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22953.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22953)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22954.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22954)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22955.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22955)
The next stage will be to ‘Loose Fit’ the track work and assemble the Slope/Upper level turnouts and crossing to the front RH side of the box.
Turnouts will be fitted with Peco PL-10 motors and PL-15 Twin Microswitches (one switch for Frog polarity and the second for local signal if required.

Note: for the Turnout that switches through to the Crossover then I will use a relay to also change its polarity.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on March 16, 2015, 10:55:26 am
It looks good, Colin, but I have concerns about the radii of some of those curves :uneasy:
Perhaps it's the camera foreshortening things. What sort of stock do you intend to run, please?
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 16, 2015, 02:02:31 pm
When I started this project I was aiming for the min radius to be 250mm which is still correct for the inside track of the Up and Down line. there is a slight illusion because the riser is wider at 2 1/2 inches than the 2inch height. I shall check the drawing dimensions and republish the R/H section of the trackplan with a scale rule attached probably tomorrow.

However you are right in that the reversing loop is somewhat tighter than that at the moment, I will probably need to open out this loop and cross the baseboard join at an angle! When you draw in XtrkCad with the 'join track' command you are sometimes decreasing the radius without realising it.

With regard to stock, this is listed in the opening statements when I started this topic on page 1

Hope this answers your query.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Hailstone on March 16, 2015, 02:35:57 pm
with a Radius of less than 12" or 300mm you may encounter problems running a Britannia, I believe that they were designed for no less that 10 1/2 radius minimum, but can't find the paperwork at the moment.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 16, 2015, 04:05:56 pm
Thanks to you both for your observations, I have put some 250mm rad circles on the plan and dimensioned the grid to 100mm squares to show the relationship.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/29/thumb_22961.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22961)

I think that I can just about get 300mm rad for the inner track but will be tight for the reversing loop. Time to experiment on min rad for Britannia, must say I had more concerns regarding the Class 66 (Dapol) on 250 mm curve.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 16, 2015, 04:13:14 pm
Takes a long time to download files at this time of the day.
Moving to BT Infinity fibre connection tomorrow, that should be fun.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 22, 2015, 04:40:09 am
I have redrawn the up and down lines to increase all of their radii to 300mm which will fit within the box, the reversing loop is now 250mm and I am pressed to increase this further.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/28/thumb_23197.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=23197)
I have refitted all the risers affected by the increase in radius and the reversing loop riser is sufficiently wide to increase its radius to 265 if the cross module joint is not to severe but this still needs testing.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/28/thumb_23190.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=23190)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/28/thumb_23191.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=23191)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/28/thumb_23192.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=23192)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/28/thumb_23193.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=23193)
I have attempted to loose lay the track but have found that although the risers are made from a fairly dense foam they do not have a great deal of holding power when you want the points to stay in place with pins as you manipulate the flexitrack to fit. As I observed earlier in this topic the Woodlands Scenics Mod-U-Rail is probably more suited to Setrack.

I have therefore stopped so that I can pre assembled the points/crossover onto a strip of cork (which is the same height (3mm) as the N Gauge track bed supplied with the Module Kit).

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/28/thumb_23194.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=23194)  

Why don't Peco fit a dropper wire to the frog of the points similar to those they fit to the cross over?
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/28/thumb_23195.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=23195)

Finished right side up.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/28/thumb_23196.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=23196)

I will return to test laying the track later this week.

Must add that the BT Infinity fibre broadband that was installed a couple of days ago is great, these pics above took a matter of seconds to upload to my album
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on April 21, 2015, 02:50:27 pm
Been a month since I last published, and very little has progressed on the layout, this break has been necessary to work on the spring garden and to renovate a bedroom.

The bedroom renovation liberated a pair of bi-fold doors, each section is 6ft 6inches * 12 inches (1980mm * 300mm) so three of these plus a pair of trestles have provided the perfect ‘bench’ on which to construct the second (left hand) module.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/26/thumb_24252.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=24252)

Module construction is as before. Just make a polystyrene box!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/26/thumb_24253.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=24253) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/26/thumb_24254.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=24254) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/26/thumb_24255.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=24255)

The location dowels now fitted have proved invaluable in aligning the two modules.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/26/thumb_24256.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=24256)  

The through bolts holding the two modules together are temporary and will be replaced with toggle catches for quick assembly when finished.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/26/thumb_24257.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=24257)

As I have said before these Woodland Scenics module kits are more suited to ridged (Set Track) than flexi track and as one is working at an elevated level on the 2inch (50mm) risers laying out the track plan which is printed on A4 sheets of paper and stuck together with sellotape, is a little tricky. In order to get the curves of the risers correct I will probably need to either make some more ridged curve templates or get some temporary set track and use these for curve templates.

Progress and hence posts will be a little sporadic as the demand of the coming summer will take up more of my time.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on August 17, 2015, 07:21:36 am
Lightweight layout update 17th August 2015 No10


Been a while since I last published but the summer has been good. Found some time to make a little progress so here is an update.
I have completed both of the bases at level one, i.e. the up and down lines and the crossover support sections, and covered the risers with plaster cloth. The structure has now become quite ridged.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28221.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28221)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28222.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28222)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28223.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28223)

Unlike a more normal baseboard there will be no access to the underside and hence I have to consider the wiring as an integral part of the track laying, so there is no way one can lay all the track and leave the wiring for later. On the upside it will mean that I will be able to test and I go and get some of the layout running much earlier in the construction process.

There is much published anecdotal evidence that there is a reaction between PVC insulated cables and polystyrene so I have had to make allowance where cables pass through the risers and exit the layout. For this I have fabricated a very cheap plastic conduit (no prizes if you recognise the items used).

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28218.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28218)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28220.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28220)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28219.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28219)

I have started to lay the track bed as can be seen.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28224.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28224)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28225.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28225)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28226.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28226)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on August 17, 2015, 08:50:11 am
As I have said before ‘Woodland Scenics module kits are more suited to rigid (Set track) than Flexitrack’.

In order to get the track curves correct I have made rigid curve templates using set track. In a series of R2, R3 and R4, each quadrant has a set track straight at each end to enable a reasonably smooth transition from curve to straight to be formed

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28227.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28227)

The flexitrack (rail side down) can then be eased into a smooth curve using the radius template required.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28233.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28233)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28229.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28229)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28228.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28228)

Although this has been said many times Peco code 55 track should only be curved one way and the arrows indicating which is the inside edge are clearly visible.

First curves laid (R4 outside, R3 inside)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28232.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28232)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on August 17, 2015, 10:33:23 am
I did wonder where my medications had got to ??? Now I can see they've been used on your layout!

It's fascinating watching all this come together. I appreciate the entire board will be very lightweight but does it flex at all when lifted?
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on August 17, 2015, 05:24:41 pm
It's fascinating watching all this come together. I appreciate the entire board will be very lightweight but does it flex at all when lifted?

The sides are constructed with the profile boards and each corner is interlocked and glued then the sides are glued to the base board there is no flex either diagonally or laterally. Then you use the plaster cloth (similar to Mod-rock) around all sides and folded around the bottom, a hard shell is produced giving a very stable platform.

When the first level track is laid and tested I will split the two modules, weight them and then attempt to demonstrate their rigidity (non destructive of course).

Thank you for your interest.


Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on August 21, 2015, 07:04:28 am
Lightweight layout update 21st August 2015 No12

Progress to date

Up and down lines track laid, I will have wiring installed and tested soon.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28343.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28343)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28345.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28345)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28344.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28344)

I will not be running Buss wiring around the track as this is not practical for this construction method. Therefore I will install a distribution point that feeds each quadrant.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28346.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28346)

Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on August 23, 2015, 09:14:21 am
Had a good couple of days to tidy up the level 1 wiring and make up the first interface board.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28397.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28397)  (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28398.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28398)

Powered up and run a couple of the larger locos to test them on the curves. All went very well.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28399.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28399)  
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28400.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28400)  
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28401.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28401)  
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28402.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28402)  
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28403.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28403)  
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28404.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28404)  
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28405.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28405)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/19/thumb_28406.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28406)

Now I will need to get to grips with making and posting a video of full rakes traversing the loops. Both the Class 66 and Britannia have sound fitted.
Got an Android phone and Tab but no idea as to what to do next, I know there is a topic somewhere on this forum.

Next job is to wire up and test the CML DAC20 and point motors.

Then onward to completing the reversing loop and the slope up to level 2
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on September 08, 2015, 03:08:18 am
Lightweight layout update 8th September 2015 No14

I have weighed the layout and it comes in at 13lbs (6kg) as you see it today in the following pictures.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/18/thumb_28810.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28810)  
The green string plots diagonal centre line of the upper terminus throat and platform roads

The slope is 3% and gives me 40mm above the track where it finishes at the plywood transition piece at the rear of the layout
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/18/thumb_28811.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28811) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/18/thumb_28812.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28812) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/18/thumb_28813.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28813)


Have still not got to grips with posting videos on YouTube as I cannot get the R/H categories side bar to show other model railway posts all I get are Japanese writing and strange vids of unwanted content. Not able to figure out which settings I need to alter!
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Novice41 on September 30, 2015, 10:30:41 am
For a novice it all looks a bit frightening. I shall look forward to some progress photos.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on September 30, 2015, 10:47:10 am
Hey there, Novice41. Welcome to the NGF!  :thumbsup:

Nothings frightening here, mate (except perhaps some of our mugshots), so how about you post a bit about yourself and your N gauge plans in our welcome section?
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on September 30, 2015, 11:01:47 am
For a novice it all looks a bit frightening. I shall look forward to some progress photos.

Welcome to the forum :wave:
Don't worry - it looks a bit hair raising to me as well (and I haven't got much hair to raise :-[)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on September 30, 2015, 11:05:00 am
And that's when the hips workin'  ;)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on October 25, 2015, 07:55:57 am
Lightweight layout update 25th October 2015 No15

Have this week completed the installation of the PCB boards to operate the whole of level 1 of this layout so from these pics you can see the 2 No. CML DAC20 turnout controllers, Frog Juicers for the 2 Xovers and the reversing loop, car number plate bulbs to provide current limitation to sections of the layout, and the addition of 2 No. NCE BD20 block detectors that will switch the colour light signals for the through station at the front of the layout.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_30862.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30862) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_30861.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30861) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_30860.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30860)
The problem that is now becoming apparent with this construction method is that one cannot install items such as signals and lighting at the latter stages of the project as there is NO access to the underside for such installs. Therefore one has to plan for all of these requirements and install them as each stage progresses. Hence the need to have added Block Detectors and the wiring for signalling at this early stage.

I have for the first time had the opportunity to put all of my rolling stock onto the layout and have it all working. Although most of it is ‘Parked’ it is all live and can be individually driven on to the Up and Down lines and run individually.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_30857.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30857) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_30858.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30858) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_30859.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30859)
Encouragingly the standing current of the accessory decoders and trains is only 0.34Amp (340 mA), so under current (no pun intended) prediction, my NCE PowerCab rated at 1.9amps will be more then adequate for the completed layout.

What has also become apparent is that when operating the layout from the front with the control boards at the back, the operator cannot see when the current limiting lamps illuminate under an overload condition, I will probably need to relocate them to the top edge of the backboard so that they can be observed from nay viewing angle.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on October 25, 2015, 08:24:09 am
This indeed most interesting. Great pics!

Just looking at your wiring along the bottom of some of your circuits.... that's multicore copper and not single core, I hope?

George
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on October 25, 2015, 09:40:22 am
I'm very impressed with your wiring set up and more than a little envious of your Pullman rakes :drool:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on October 25, 2015, 09:52:41 am
This indeed most interesting. Great pics!

Just looking at your wiring along the bottom of some of your circuits.... that's multicore copper and not single core, I hope?

George


Eagle eyes

The cables I think you spotted i.e. the twisted pairs, are stripped from flexible CAT5 and are 7 core rated at 3Amp nominal.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/14/thumb_30863.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30863)
Great for signals and turnout motor (including solenoids) wiring.

DCC Track power to the Star Points is 0.75mm Brown & Blue mains cables from TVs, CD Payers etc usually found in reasonable quantity at the local electrical recycling drops. (I always carry a pair of side cutters in the car for such opportunities).

Wiring from star points to track sections is stock 7/0.20mm from Rapid Electronics.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on October 25, 2015, 09:54:41 am
I'm very impressed with your wiring set up and more than a little envious of your Pullman rakes :drool:

Thanks, Perhaps later this week I will put each rake at the front of the layout and have a 'Catwalk Parade'  8)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on February 28, 2016, 06:15:55 pm
Hi All, I have returned to the layout build this past week and have achieved the following.

Firstly I have sprayed all of the track work with Rail Grime to give an even base colour from which to progress.

Secondly I have fabricated and installed the through station at the front of the layout, having extended the original design intent and extended around the curve to accommodate five car rakes.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36053.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36053)
The rearward light from green signal is because it is only temporary and the LED back is open.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36054.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36054)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36055.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36055)  
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36056.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36056)  
Check clearance of coaches on the curve.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36057.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36057)  
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36058.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36058)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36059.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36059)  
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36060.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36060)
Two views from the rear of the layout.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36061.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36061)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36062.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36062)

I will run another train into the station later and post pictures.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: port perran on February 28, 2016, 06:33:19 pm
Looking very good.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: cornish yorkie on February 28, 2016, 11:03:24 pm
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign: All looking excellent, thanks for sharing
regards Derek.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on February 29, 2016, 06:28:55 pm
Another train at the newly installed New Start Station

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36107.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36107)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36108.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36108)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36109.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36109)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36110.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36110)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36111.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36111)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36112.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36112)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36113.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36113)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/7/thumb_36114.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36114)

Pullmans just for NPN, glad he is back with us.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on February 29, 2016, 08:33:08 pm
 :thankyousign:

I do like the 'Golden Arrow' kitted out Brit as well :heart2:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 07, 2016, 05:17:38 pm
I have started to lay out the first part of the upper level starting from the top of the slope.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36436.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36436)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36437.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36437)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36438.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36438)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36439.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36439)

I hope that the progress over the next few days will see the laying of track and point work on this section of the Left Hand board.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on March 07, 2016, 08:09:00 pm
Great progress!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: port perran on March 07, 2016, 08:30:48 pm
Looking good.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 17, 2016, 06:41:16 am
Lightweight layout update 17th March No18

The track work is progressing up the slope.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36785.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36785)

9mm square piece of wood used to ensure that the rail joint is kept straight whilst track is permanently fixed down.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36786.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36786)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36787.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36787)

First set of diverging point work before entering the terminus and associated sidings on the upper level.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36788.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36788)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36789.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36789)


Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on March 17, 2016, 09:39:46 am
Looking very well spaced and shipshape, Colin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 18, 2016, 05:58:18 pm
Thanks for the update. Very neat trackwork, puts mine to shame.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: port perran on March 18, 2016, 08:03:27 pm
Excellent work
Title: An unintended consequence
Post by: colpatben on March 20, 2016, 10:22:53 am
Having initially drawn up a comprehensive track plan for my layout (link in signature bar below) and having adapted it as I progressed, I have just discovered what may have become an unmitigated disaster (maybe that is a bit of an overstatement).

Anyhow this is what has transpired:

The design is of a twin track (Up and Down line) oval, with a return to an upper level terminus See ‘New Start’ topic page 2 reply #15.

Practical space/min curve radius restraints lead me to omit the third track on the incline, remove the scissor crossover at the station approach and add a pair of turnouts as a crossover between the station departure and down track.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36857.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36857)

All seemed well until I was testing the incline wiring and it suddenly became apparent that although
a train leaving the terminus from platforms 3 or 4 could cross to the down line at the low end of the incline.
Trains arriving from the up line would not be able to access platforms 1 & 2  :doh:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36859.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36859)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36858.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36858)

So I have now had to take up the recently laid station approach.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36860.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36860)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36861.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36861)
The track and point work has been glued down with Woodland Scenics Foam Tack which is easily softened with warm ‘wet water’ so no real harm done at this stage of construction.

I will add a three way point to provide a crossover to platforms 1 & 2 as below.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36862.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36862)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36863.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36863)

If there is a moral to this story it surely must be to keep your track plan up to date and consider the implications for train operation if and when you alter it.
Title: Re: An unintended consequence
Post by: Newportnobby on March 20, 2016, 10:36:16 am
 :hmmm:
Removal of the scissors caused the headache. I always like to run an imaginary train over any planned layout with an 'access all areas' mentality as I generally find it helps with space, where to site points etc.
Glad you seem to have cracked it, though, Colin
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: wookie on March 20, 2016, 04:26:51 pm
Where there is a problem, there is usually a solution with a bit of thought. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: An unintended consequence
Post by: colpatben on March 21, 2016, 07:52:22 am
:hmmm:
Removal of the scissors caused the headache.

Took me a couple of minutes to get this! ;D

Up early this morning weren't you. :sleep:
In topic Re: I've never had a train set before!
Posted by: newportnobby
Today at 04:30:43 am »

'I have the Dapol 2-6-2 Ivatt tank (see my avatar).'
Title: Re: An unintended consequence
Post by: Newportnobby on March 21, 2016, 09:43:31 am
:hmmm:
Removal of the scissors caused the headache.

Took me a couple of minutes to get this! ;D

Up early this morning weren't you. :sleep:
In topic Re: I've never had a train set before!
Posted by: newportnobby
Today at 04:30:43 am »

'I have the Dapol 2-6-2 Ivatt tank (see my avatar).'

Yeah - my current problem is I have no issue in going to sleep but I just can't stay asleep for a whole night :no: :doh:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Marcus Amison on March 22, 2016, 02:04:03 am
Lightweight layout update 17th March No18

The track work is progressing up the slope.
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36785.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36785[/url])

9mm square piece of wood used to ensure that the rail joint is kept straight whilst track is permanently fixed down.
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36786.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36786[/url])
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36787.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36787[/url])

First set of diverging point work before entering the terminus and associated sidings on the upper level.
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36788.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36788[/url])
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36789.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36789[/url])
Your idea on using a length of 9mm square wood to keep the track straight on the curve joints is clever. I'll be adopting that in the future👍
Title: Re: An unintended consequence
Post by: colpatben on March 22, 2016, 05:00:53 am

Yeah - my current problem is I have no issue in going to sleep but I just can't stay asleep for a whole night :no: :doh:
Dittto, Just one of the problems of being four Three score years and ten.
At least we have NGF, On-line shopping and friends in other longitudes to while away the hours 'till the rest of the country gets up.

Off to do the Asda (Wallmart) order now :(
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on March 22, 2016, 05:15:49 am
Geez what's going on? NewportNobby isn't the only one keeping odd hours!  :worried:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 22, 2016, 05:28:02 am
Geez what's going on? NewportNobby isn't the only one keeping odd hours!  :worried:

Good Afternoon.

16:28
Tuesday, 22 March 2016 (GMT+11)
Time in Sydney NSW, Australia
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on March 22, 2016, 05:36:21 am
Good morning. Must say I'm enjoying your construction thread as much as I'm enjoying my daily afternoon beers!  :beers:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 27, 2016, 04:12:10 am
Lightweight layout update 27th March No19

Building up level 1 under the station does not need the Woodland Scenics risers so I am cutting down some standard foam insulation into strips.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37159.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37159)  
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37160.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37160)

The first layer is laid from front to back of the layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37157.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37157)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37158.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37158)

Then the support for the upper level is glued on top in line with the trackwork it is to support. The green sting shows the centreline for the tracks that serve platforms 2&3.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37161.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37161)

Notched over the base trackwork and clearance checked.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37162.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37162)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37163.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37163)

The 3 way point has arrived so I can rework the station approach as post of 20th March.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on March 27, 2016, 05:48:50 am
It's coming along very well, Colin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: MrDobilina on April 05, 2016, 11:32:37 am
I cant believe I hadnt thought of using insulation sooner! thanks for this :D
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 05, 2016, 07:13:41 pm
 :hellosign: thanks for the updates &.  :greatpicturessign: coming along nicely
regards Derek.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on April 29, 2016, 06:55:11 am
I have reached a milestone in as much as I have now completed the final support and track laying into the terminus area.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_38828.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38828)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_38830.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38830)
From the front of the layout on the right, track 1 will be platform 1, currently loose laid track will be for commuter traffic (4 CEP and Brighton Belle) and will include a head shunt or train storage towards the bottom of this picture, Track bed will be extended towards the curve when testing is complete as this will cover up the wiring distribution.

Next platforms 2 (Departures) and 3 (Arrivals).

And to the left, track 4, platform 4 may be a suburban push pull.

Temporary power applied for testing, the copper clad board at the join is face down to support the track for testing.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_38901.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38901)

Also looking towards the front of the layout.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_38829.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38829)

Hopefully going to run all of my trains over the weekend to ensure all point work and wiring is fully functional before proceeding.

The 3 way point is clearly shown in this photo.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_38896.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38896)
The numbers that are written adjacent to each point throw bar are the DCC accessory addresses for the point motors.

And looking at the approach with the back of the layout to the right of the pic.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/2/thumb_38900.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=38900)
The next step will be to construct an overall roof for the Terminus so that I can determine the platform widths and permanently lay the tracks 1 and 4.

Currently thinking that I will use the Peco LK-20X roof and shorten the support pillars to reduce the height.


Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on April 29, 2016, 09:37:56 am
Very impressive, Colin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on May 20, 2016, 07:08:18 am
Lightweight layout update 20th May No20.

I have constructed the Peco LK-20X Terminus roof and after looking at several station buildings have sort of settled on the free Wordsworth Grand Station card kit.

These are both in 0rrible 0versize but I believe that in context and with the building resized to 60% I have managed to get the size balance right without an over scale appearance!

In this mock-up, the roof supports are polystyrene off cuts you will see a pillar later.

First of all without the roof.

Sorry, for some inexplicable reason I cannot rotate this pic.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39819.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39819)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39803.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39803)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39804.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39804)

Now with roof in place.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39805.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39805)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39806.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39806)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39807.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39807)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39808.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39808)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39809.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39809)  
I am thinking that looking at the above view I might make the rear support a solid. brick wall.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39810.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39810)

Without roof and some trains in position.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39811.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39811)

Roof on.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39820.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39820)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39817.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39817)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39816.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39816)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39815.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39815)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39814.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39814)

In this view you can see one of the support pillars resting against the temporary support for comparison.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/0/thumb_39813.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39813)

As I look at these pics I am going to lower the roof by 5mm as this will clear the clock face, I will probably then remove the clock face from the ‘Business End’ of the station and just brick up the space.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on May 20, 2016, 07:19:02 am
Very impressive!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: daveg on May 20, 2016, 07:36:06 am
Thanks for the update.

Great looking canopy.  :thumbsup:

If you do brick over the clock, the station will still 'need' a big timepiece so hopefully you can work one into the plan somehow.

Dave G
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on May 20, 2016, 08:48:41 am

If you do brick over the clock, the station will still 'need' a big timepiece so hopefully you can work one into the plan somehow.

Dave G


This is what I really would like to replicate

http://www.thisotherworld.co.uk/stpancras1.JPG (http://www.thisotherworld.co.uk/stpancras1.JPG)

I'm a bit of an old romantic!  :heart: (Wheres the kissy smily?)
So the clock needs to be relocated under the canopy.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on May 20, 2016, 09:18:04 am
I know that location! Pretty cool, but from a modelling standpoint,  it ain't going to be seen under the canopy.

I'd  be tempted to leave it where it is!
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: daveg on May 20, 2016, 10:15:50 am
Love that station. :heart:

George is right though, it probably won't be visible but you'd know it's there!

Dave G
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on May 20, 2016, 10:39:59 am
The canopy looks excellent but, to my mind, could actually do with an extension of another half the size as, when you see it covering only 3 coaches of a 4 coach train, it doesn't look so majestic :hmmm:
Would there be room to do this?

On another subject I would always be concerned about brushing against the polystyrene and creating small bits of debris which could be sucked up by locos :uneasy:
Does this ever happen or have you somehow sealed it to prevent such an occurrence, Colin?
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 20, 2016, 11:58:51 am
 :hellosign: Nice work &  :greatpicturessign: the canopy looks superb, thanks for the updates
regards Derek.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on May 20, 2016, 08:23:13 pm
The canopy looks excellent but, to my mind, could actually do with an extension of another half the size as, when you see it covering only 3 coaches of a 4 coach train, it doesn't look so majestic :hmmm:
Would there be room to do this?

I wasn't sure if the Roof could be made to look 'In Scale' so I only bought one kit, but yes I think that in the finished station I will extend the roof with as much of a second kit as I can fit.

On another subject I would always be concerned about brushing against the polystyrene and creating small bits of debris which could be sucked up by locos :uneasy:
Does this ever happen or have you somehow sealed it to prevent such an occurrence, Colin?

The polystyrene is first finished with a covering of plaster bandage so it is strong and does not flake or break up.
Painting and scenic work can then take place as normal.
I will say that the Woodland Scenics plaster bandage (comes in the kit) is well loaded with plaster (better than Modroc) and can be smoothed very nicely.
As the Polystyrene base is non porous I have discovered that if I lay the plaster bandage dry and temporarily fix with foam nails, then wet with 50/50 PVA/water mix it will stick to the base and can be smoothed with a wet paint brush.

Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on May 20, 2016, 08:51:02 pm
Thanks for the comprehensive reply, Colin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on June 07, 2016, 05:50:28 am
Quick update on the platform construction showing platform surface and plystyrene core.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-070616051351.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-070616051518.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-070616051544.jpeg)

Whilst working in this half of the layout I decided to permanently fit the NCE PCP panel, as up till now it has been lying loose all over the layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-070616051637.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-070616051709.jpeg)

Just an aside, I am still having no luck finding the ‘Bulk Upload’ facility that people are discussing, as uploading these 5 photos had to be done singly, also the old
[SMID] link was much easier to use as at least the photos generally had consecutive numbers these new links seem to generate random numbers so you have to keep jumping back to the gallery to get the next photo link.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on June 09, 2016, 06:44:33 am
Platform surface finished


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-090616061913-408582223.jpeg)

First Terminus Tower built. The unfinished RH corner is where it joins the façade.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-090616063024-408672157.jpeg)

Looks a bit ragged around the window returns, need to blend in with coloured pencil.

I expect to complete the second one later today.

Getting to grips with the new gallery and the Bulk Upload now. Superfast.

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/Smileys/NGF/thankyousign.gif (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/Smileys/NGF/thankyousign.gif) team.

Oops Smiley not working !
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on June 09, 2016, 10:16:28 am
That's going to be an imposing building, Colin. :goggleeyes:

What did you use to surface your platforms and is there any chance of a close up pic please?
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on June 10, 2016, 07:04:42 am
Lightweight layout update 10th June No.22.

Continued on to complete the two towers and facia as far as possible so that I can set it aside for now.

Concourse side: I have ‘bricked up’ the station clock as discussed in update No.20 May 20th

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616061427-40868259.jpeg)

(http://[url=http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616061428-408832114.jpeg]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616061428-408832114.jpeg[/url])

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616061429-40884609.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616061430-408861066.jpeg)
Entrance side.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616061429-40884675.jpeg)

These close ups have shown me that I need to take some more care whilst cutting the window openings but at the moment I will continue using this version of the model as I still have to position (and lower) the canopy and I may need to adjust the size of the finished building to get a better scale prospective.

Placed on the concourse in approximately the final position.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616061430-408862385.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616061431-40888484.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616061431-40888715.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616061432-40890923.jpeg)

Entrance side:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616061432-40890709.jpeg)

I have some space here to add a booking kiosk and hence fill the gap.

OOH, I have left a few fingerprints where I was adding bits of concourse edging; still they will probably disappear under the foot traffic over the years! If not who is going to look that closely under the canopy?


Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on June 10, 2016, 07:35:29 am

That's going to be an imposing building, Colin. :goggleeyes:

What did you use to surface your platforms and is there any chance of a close up pic please?


Thanks.

The surface is from the Wordsworth Grand Station Platform kit.

Free from here http://www.wordsworthmodelrailway.co.uk/railside.html (http://www.wordsworthmodelrailway.co.uk/railside.html)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616072015-40892890.jpeg)

This I cut and pasted using Microsoft Paint and then printed to scale to meet my requirements for the platform widths.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616072019-408941247.jpeg)

Just widened the platform section to give enough ‘Tarmac’ to cover the concourse.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/40/1337-100616072017-40893460.jpeg)

Then glued on to cereal packet cardboard before gluing on to the polystyrene core.

Are the pics in the previous post close enough or shall I post a couple more?

Maybe I should do a short tutorial entitled Budget Platforms.

Not just yet though as I have a minor operation on Monday 13th June which may leave me restricted in mobility for a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 10, 2016, 08:09:39 am
Many thanks for this update, Colin. I had not known about Wordsworth which is an excellent resource for cardboard kit modellers. However, I was just interested in trying out the platform surfaces and, maybe, adapting them like you.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on June 10, 2016, 10:23:23 am
The extra pics are a great help, Colin. Thank you.
Looking at the website would I be correct in assuming the 'Daisy' platform is for 00 and the 'Maisy' for N (shame about the names)?
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on June 10, 2016, 11:11:27 am
The extra pics are a great help, Colin. Thank you.
Looking at the website would I be correct in assuming the 'Daisy' platform is for 00 and the 'Maisy' for N (shame about the names)?

As far as I am aware all Wordsworth kits are 00 gauge (1/76), see their home page, and are normally printed at 100%
For UK N gauge (1:148) just print at (76/148 *100) = 51.34%
For continental N gauge (1:160) just print at (76/160 *100) = 47.5%

Printing at 50% will give you a close approximation to our scale size.

Also a point to consider is to use card that is ½  the size stated on each sheet.
I.E. if instruction says to glue to 1mm card then use 0.5mm card (which as it happens is the thickness of most cereal box card).

So if any vendor only produces a 00 gauge card kit then using the above you can use it in our gauge with little problem.

With an island platform there is little likelihood that any printed kit will give you the exact width you require, so an amount of reworking of the width or length will be needed, hence the reason to cut 'n paste the original using Windows Paint or some other editor to meet your specific needs.

There you go; I have almost started the tutorial for a Budget Platform ……
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on June 10, 2016, 11:48:37 am
Thanks again for your help. On 'Kimbolted' I will be using offcuts of 9mm Sundeala shaped to how I need them but have been looking for a suitable 'topping' and they might just do the trick.
Ideally I need some paving slab pattern stuff but I haven't found any yet that has the 'right look'.
I can then build it up to the 2mm thickness required.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2016, 06:10:33 am
Thanks, Colin, very useful.

I also am looking for suitable paving slab material for station platforms. The Scalescene sheet has too many broken slabs but I suppose I could edit it in a graphics program to make plain slabs.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: daveg on June 11, 2016, 07:24:10 am
A possible alternative is Redutex that comes in a variety to textures and colours. I have used several different finishes for paving and roof tiles and am pleased with the results. It takes weathering too, which is a bonus.

See https://www.dccsupplies.com/search/results/?search=redutex (https://www.dccsupplies.com/search/results/?search=redutex)

Not a particularly cheap solution but it does add a nice depth to the area being worked on.

HTH

Dave G



Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2016, 09:31:12 am
Thanks, Dave. I know that Redutex is successfully used in 00 Scale modelling; however, I can't help thinking that the 'granules' are too big in N Scale, just like using real sand in N Scale is (grains of which are equivalent to N Scale stones) so I think that I will be trying Chinchilla dust, instead, for sand. However, sand is, probably, the right size for N Scale ballast or rough gravel.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on June 11, 2016, 09:55:43 am
Appreciate the pointer, Dave, but having staggered through all 15 pages there is no paving slab pattern :'(
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: daveg on June 11, 2016, 03:36:46 pm
Appreciate the pointer, Dave, but having staggered through all 15 pages there is no paving slab pattern :'(

Oh poo! Sorry mate!  :sorrysign:

Dave G
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: daveg on June 11, 2016, 03:41:58 pm
Thanks, Dave. I know that Redutex is successfully used in 00 Scale modelling; however, I can't help thinking that the 'granules' are too big in N Scale, just like using real sand in N Scale is (grains of which are equivalent to N Scale stones) so I think that I will be trying Chinchilla dust, instead, for sand. However, sand is, probably, the right size for N Scale ballast or rough gravel.

Appreciate what you are saying, Chris but I think actually having the chance to look at the stuff rather than just view online, helps. Some but certainly not all, are pretty good in N.

I have big 2 bags of 'play sand' - please don't ask  :doh: - and I think I can use a tiny amount of that for loads and other scenic work.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2016, 03:55:21 pm
Thanks, Dave. Please, let us know which Redutex you recommend. I'm thinking the (new) walls for the back of "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove could be covered in Redutex then painted white to be typically Cornish?
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: daveg on June 11, 2016, 04:11:51 pm
Thanks, Dave. Please, let us know which Redutex you recommend. I'm thinking the (new) walls for the back of "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove could be covered in Redutex then painted white to be typically Cornish?

I'll probably get over to DCC Supplies during the back end of next week and take a look at the stock they have. If I don't get back to you, (remaining brain cell works part time only!) give me a nudge.

Dave G
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2016, 08:52:39 pm
Thank you, Dave. Will do. 8-)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on June 25, 2016, 06:00:53 am
Lightweight layout update 25th June No.23.

Now fixed the station in position and filled in the corner with an additional structure.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-250616052736-413852109.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-250616052738-413872231.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-250616052738-413891136.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-250616052738-413872134.jpeg)

I have fitted roof support columns at alternate spans so that I can see how the finished item is going to look.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-250616052732-413592026.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-250616052733-413801772.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-250616052735-413831049.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-250616052734-41382588.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-250616052734-413812397.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-250616052735-413831264.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-250616052736-413851611.jpeg)

The additional roof kit should be delivered early next week and I will then be able to double the length of the roof which I expect will look better.
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Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on June 25, 2016, 09:27:22 am
That's going to look very imposing. Nice one, Colin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on June 30, 2016, 04:24:37 am
Lightweight layout update 29th June No.24.

I have bought 4 No Fleischmann 22216 Buffer stops for the terminus, which needed to be fitted before the roof is finally fixed.

Part assembled and primed.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-290616152236-415162135.jpeg)

Beam painted.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-290616152111-415071770.jpeg)

Finished before fitting.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-290616152114-415101172.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-290616152111-41507951.jpeg)

In position.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-290616152114-41510611.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-290616152116-415141634.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-290616152116-415142483.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-290616152115-415121393.jpeg)

Fixed with a 00 track pin in the centre of the cross brace.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-290616152115-415122296.jpeg)

Now I just need to ballast to finish.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2016, 10:06:53 am
Very nice. The views under the canopy looking towards the buffers are particularly good :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 30, 2016, 12:25:22 pm
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:  looking good thanks for the updates
regards Derek.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Mito on June 30, 2016, 10:25:58 pm
Very impressive :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on July 08, 2016, 04:51:34 pm
Lightweight layout update 8th July No.25.

I have assembled and temporarily installed the additional roof bay to extend the roof, here are some before and after shots,

The original as it was.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-080716163145-417681544.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-080716163145-41768846.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-080716163147-417781766.jpeg)

And the extended section.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-080716163147-417782021.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-080716163151-417408.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-080716163150-417821579.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-080716163152-417861924.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-080716163151-417841728.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-080716163149-41780667.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-080716163149-417802108.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-080716163150-417821425.jpeg)

I now need to remove the original glazed end, paint and glaze the new end.
Once the remainder of the pillars are finally fitted I will be in a position to ballast and install the outside walls.

Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: daveg on July 08, 2016, 06:22:59 pm
Impressive station you're creating!

Really like the interior shots. :greatpicturessign:

Dave G
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on July 08, 2016, 08:17:35 pm
I was wondering about the double spaced pillars until I got to the end of your post.
The extended canopy looks great, and I agree about the internal shots :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 08, 2016, 09:31:53 pm
 :hellosign: Very nice looking station in the making, &  :greatpicturessign: thanks for the updates
regards Derek.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Mito on July 08, 2016, 10:10:05 pm
Much improved with the canopy extension. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 09, 2016, 06:42:51 am
Highly impressive work. The extension is definitely well worth the extra work. I also really like the interior shots; reminded me a little of Bath Green Park station, especially with the BR SR Green Mark 1 stock.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on July 09, 2016, 08:36:13 am
I was wondering about the double spaced pillars until I got to the end of your post.
The extended canopy looks great, and I agree about the internal shots :thumbsup:


Thanks to all for the encouragement.

The pillars are a bit of pain as they had to be cut down from the original height and have to be firmly fixed in pairs to keep roof level.

At the moment some pairs are glued to the roof truss and others pair are loose fitted on the baseboard to aid roof removal for access and cleaning of the platform roads.

You can see the gap in pillar No1 and No4 where the roof is not quite seated properly!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-090716083040.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=41794)

I now need to source a selection of platform 'furniture' and decide on a backscene beyound the station entrance.

Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Caz on July 09, 2016, 08:53:28 am
When I tackled Claywell's overall roof I too looked at the Peco 00 version but was worried about it being too overscale so I went for the Faller 222127 version.  Big bonus with the Faller version is that it came with all sorts of accessories like seats, notice boards, sign boards etc.  Here's a link to the Gaugemaster website but it is available from other suppliers.
http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=FA222127&style=&strType=&Mcode=Faller+222127 (http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=FA222127&style=&strType=&Mcode=Faller+222127)

The Faller version in situ on Claywell.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/main_1572.JPG)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on July 09, 2016, 10:51:51 am

I now need to source a selection of platform 'furniture' and decide on a backscene beyound the station entrance.


One thing that could help would be station signs and you get these made up to order by Trackside signs. A full station pack contains the station name boards and all the relevant platform numbers, waiting room etc. These would look great being photographed from under the canopy.

http://tracksidesigns.co.uk/Station-Signs-Poster/N-Gauge (http://tracksidesigns.co.uk/Station-Signs-Poster/N-Gauge)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: daveg on July 09, 2016, 12:47:16 pm
Pleased to endorse Mick's recommendation of Trackside Signs. Excellent service and quality.

Dave G
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on July 11, 2016, 07:49:43 am
Thanks to NN, DaveG and all for the link to Trackside Signs.

Before I can consider placing an order I have to address the  thorny question as to a layout name.

Up until this time I have avoided thinking about it, but to continue to call it 'A New Start' is not sufficient.

I have tried to find an anagram of anewstart but to no avail.

So the question to the Forum is what name will suit?

:pleasesign: put your thinking caps on and enter into the spirit of this question.

Sorry but no prize for the winning entry, except maybe a one way rail ticket from Bexhill-on-Sea to London on Southern. :'(



Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: daveg on July 11, 2016, 08:30:21 am
Names are a challenge and I spent ages before settling on mine. I made sure that the places didn't actually exist.

Here's a nudge, based on your initial thoughts that may help, even if they're totally rubbish!  ;)

Startendon

Entonhall

Lightenham

Look forward to learning what you decide. It's great when you get the signs from James.

Dave G
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on July 11, 2016, 10:35:04 am
How about "Endsere" or "Noonwards"?

Although my Kimbolted station is not a terminus, part of my station pack from Trackside included signs like "Kimbolted - Change here for Oxford & Banbury". ;)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Mito on July 11, 2016, 06:52:51 pm
The thinking cap doesn't seen to be working too well. :( but Weiton? When I was looking for names I looked at old street maps of the area and took one of the street names as the town.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on July 12, 2016, 06:12:58 am
Thank you Dave G ,NN and Mito for the suggestions.

Like them all in their own way, need more stations, Maybe I could model a railway relics yard with a selection of Running in Boards on display!

I will mock up a couple of running in boards in SR Green, to see how they look.

Not sure how Totem or Target signs will look, because they must bee pretty small in N. Has anyone got a closeup of these on their layout?
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on August 08, 2016, 08:21:39 am
Started on the Canal Basin, quite a long way to go.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/1337-080816081020-42594556.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/1337-080816081020-425942168.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/1337-080816081021-42613851.jpeg)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: daveg on August 08, 2016, 08:26:39 am
Looking good.  :thumbsup:

Always exciting building a new layout.

Look forward to your next update.

Dave G

Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on August 11, 2016, 06:33:59 pm
Lightweight layout update 11th August No.26.

The canal basin is now taking shape.

The Liddle End lock temporarily in position.

Upper lock end:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/1337-110816180823-427761825.jpeg)

Lower lock end:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/1337-110816180826-42782854.jpeg)

Basin floor laid and side walls bricked up and edges sealed:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/1337-110816180826-42782447.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/1337-110816180828-427841496.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/1337-110816180828-427842233.jpeg)

Next will be to paint the lock floor muddy greenish, weather the side walls and then first pour of Woodland Scenics Realistic Water TM.

For the technically minded the ‘water’ depth will be 8mm (4ft equivalent) probably a bit shallow to ‘float my boat’ but expecting it to look good.

Each pour will be <3mm, with the drying time between coats it will take a while to build up the thickness required.

Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Caz on August 11, 2016, 07:06:40 pm
Looking very good, wish I'd have had room for one of those Lyddle End locks, they look the bees knees.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on August 27, 2016, 08:25:22 am
Lightweight layout update 27th August No.27.

The canal basin and lock update.

First pour of Realistic water to the canal basin.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1337-270816080228-43158996.jpeg)

This Faller cobblestone print is going to be the lock surround and basin roadway.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1337-270816080230-431641746.jpeg)

Lock in position and lower lock turning basin second pour complete but there are several mm to fill yet! We can now see the scene taking shape.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1337-270816080230-431641677.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1337-270816080228-431581731.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1337-270816080232-431661202.jpeg)
From below lock

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1337-270816080233-431681334.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1337-270816080233-431681041.jpeg)

Exit from turning basin will be into a tunnel beneath track similar to this.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1337-270816082149.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43171)

If there is one thing I would change it would be that I did not need to go for the basin to be a scale depth of 4ft i.e. 8 mm of ‘water’, as at 3 to 4 mm the depth looks very good.


Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Webbo on August 27, 2016, 08:47:35 am
I much like the look of what you are doing Colin. Your canal basin is a bit different and will be a very interesting feature in your scene. As for station names, I'd vote for something in the quirky category for sure. If you wanted something grand, how about Thermopylae - not very English I'll admit, but Waterloo isn't either?

Webbo
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on August 27, 2016, 09:04:32 am
Thanks Webbo,

I could have a bigger Canal (yacht) basin and fit a 200ft Tea Clipper in there, but good name. Call it Greewich and I could have the Cutty Sark.

Maybe a tea warehouse (turned to yuppie apartments) and on it grows and grows.

 :no:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on August 27, 2016, 09:27:40 am
That looks super, Colin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on August 27, 2016, 10:11:45 am
Agree. This is going to be a great scene.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Webbo on August 27, 2016, 10:13:16 am
Thanks Webbo,

I could have a bigger Canal (yacht) basin and fit a 200ft Tea Clipper in there, but good name. Call it Greewich and I could have the Cutty Sark.

Maybe a tea warehouse (turned to yuppie apartments) and on it grows and grows.

 :no:

We CAN do this in N scale. I like it. Certainly something quite different from the usual model railway scene and you would get to dabble in a bit of model shipbuilding as well.

Webbo
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 27, 2016, 11:49:07 am
 :hellosign: Excellent work Colin, the CANAL basin looks the business, thanks for the  :greatpicturessign:
regards Derek.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on September 02, 2016, 07:26:00 am
Lightweight layout update 2nd September No.28.

Lower canal basin update.

A couple of photos of the lower basin exit tunnel in progress.

Tunnel lining.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1337-020916071605-43256431.jpeg)

In position

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1337-020916071606-43257617.jpeg)

Face of tunnel.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1337-020916071607-43258749.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1337-020916071604-43213951.jpeg)

I have to pour more 'water' into the basin to bring it up so that the deck of the barges is level with the towpath and flood the tunnel, probably two pours of 2mm each
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on September 02, 2016, 07:30:31 am
Or should I have said:

'The decks of the barges are level'
or

'The barge's decks are level'

?????
:hmmm:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on September 02, 2016, 07:36:26 am
Careful Colin.... I may have to move this to the 'English' thread!  ;D ;)

George
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on September 02, 2016, 08:38:44 am
Careful Colin.... I may have to move this to the 'English' thread!  ;D ;)

George

Eggsactly..... just to prove I  :read:  other threads (now where is that sewing smiley ?).
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on September 02, 2016, 08:42:15 am
 :laughabovepost:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Webbo on September 02, 2016, 09:03:39 am
Colin, the WS 'water' is pretty amazing stuff, you'll agree?

Your water looks really good with its light wind ripple on the surface.

Webbo
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on September 02, 2016, 09:17:15 am
I was thinking the same thing, but hope you vacuum off the construction detritus before you add the next layer!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2016, 09:51:42 am
There's many a canal basin with plenty of  crrubbish floating around, George!
It's looking very good, Colin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Bealman on September 02, 2016, 10:02:57 am
I'm on me phone (Friday evening drinkies) and just zoomed in on the photo. So that stuff's meant to be there, Colin?
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2016, 12:04:24 pm
Probably not, George. I'm just saying it could be left as it is.
Depends on how tidy Colin's bhajis ( :D) are
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on September 02, 2016, 03:27:05 pm
The detritus is from the adjustments whilst fitting the tunnel mouth, and the fact that both garage doors were open and it is quite breezy down here hence the ripples on the water.

It is quite a good idea to add floating plastic bags and other rubbish, park bench, bicycle, anyone know where I can get 1/148 scale beer cans and bottles?

Another thought is that some modellers add little scenes such as a household fire or a car accident with one or more emergency service vehicles in attendance, so maybe I can have a 'Man or Bargee Overboard' incident with the attendance of the air ambulance and a river police (in a boat of course).


PS I make quite a mean bhajis
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2016, 04:12:00 pm
Here's my 'prang' as one of the locals had one too many and overdid the bend..........

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/25/main_24729.JPG)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/25/main_24730.JPG)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/25/main_24731.JPG)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/25/main_24732.JPG)

Sadly the wpc directing oncoming traffic looks like she has hooves rather than feet :goggleeyes:
The ambulance taking the unfortunate drunkard to hospital is out of sight up the road.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: daveg on September 02, 2016, 05:19:45 pm
There's bridge just like that at Bough Beech in Kent, Mick. Scares the pants off you when you meet a HUGE tractor coming t'other way!

Consolation is that it's on the way to a splendid establishment called The Little Brown Jug.  :beers:

Dave G
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on November 07, 2016, 07:26:28 pm
Lightweight layout update 7th November No.29.

Not been particularly active on the Layout front, and in fact I have now ‘put it away’ for a while, the reason being that I currently need the garage space for other proposes.

However this in fact gives me a chance to do things that have been waiting in the wings.

Firstly I have built and motorised a Peco MB-55 turntable and although most of the bits are covered in other posts ie using coach wheels on stub axles etc I will show my take on the motorising bit

I bought a 3rpm 12v motor and gearbox from China and have mounted it to the turntable well.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1337-071116191059-452731692.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1337-071116191102-452781583.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1337-071116191102-45278767.jpeg)

Weathering again is my own take from various photos and posts.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1337-071116191103-452802314.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1337-071116191100-452772291.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1337-071116191100-452732303.jpeg)

I have mounted the whole assembly in a cork tile to test and evaluate, hence in the video there is a slight step to be adjusted from the fixed entry to the deck

The control is by a Digitrax basic loco decoder from the throttle control without any automation or indexing. I have found that if I set the initial speed to 1 and then increase speed in 10 unit steps ie 1, 11, 21, 31, I can reach a smooth rotation then to decelerate from 31 to 21 to 11 as the exit is approached then from 11 to 1 as the rails align then press emergency stop then alignment is pretty good so will probably do for me when finally installed in the layout sometime early next year.



Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on November 07, 2016, 08:46:44 pm
Nice work, Colin.
When you put the guardrail on don't forget the driver and fireman straining against it to turn the table ;)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: ScottyStitch on November 11, 2016, 09:45:39 am
Or should I have said:

'The decks of the barges are level'
or

'The barge's decks are level'

?????
:hmmm:

The barges' decks are level, I think as there is more than one barge....... (rather than saying barges's.. ;)  )
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Hailstone on November 20, 2016, 02:05:00 am
can you tell me what size nuts and bolts/setscrews you used, and how you opened the hole out to accept the drive shaft?

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on November 20, 2016, 11:43:07 am
can you tell me what size nuts and bolts/setscrews you used, and how you opened the hole out to accept the drive shaft?

Regards,

Alex

The holes in the gearbox are M3, so I used 4 No. M3* 30mm countersunk screws to 'hang’ the motor/gearbox under the turntable Well. Although the actual length is dependent on the bush length (see next paragraph).

Connecting between the motor output shaft is a piece of brass tube from my scrap box with the same ID as the motor shaft OD (I will need to measure this if you can wait) this coincidentally is almost the same as the lip dia. of the Peco shaft.

I soldered an M3 brass nut to the side of the brass tube to give me a place for a grub screw to grip the ‘D’ shaped output shaft from the gearbox before assembly, and then araldite the brass tube to the shaft of the Peco turntable deck after it had been assembled as you will not be able to pass the tube shaft through the Well hole with a nut soldered to it.

Now each screw has two nuts threaded on it, the ones nearest the gear box are used as locknuts to prevent the screws undoing over time but the upper ones are spun up to just below the Well but are NOT tightened because the well is dished and will be distrorted. This also allows the motor/gearbox to ‘Float’ if the alignment is not quite true, these nuts are probably not needed but I always over engineer. Do not tighten the grub screw to the motor shaft untill the 4 No. screws are supporting the weight of the motor as this will strain the araldite joint between the brass tube and the turmtable deck.

Long explanation and I will do a couple of close-up photos and measure the output shaft in the next 48 hours,
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on November 21, 2016, 07:32:32 pm
Pictures of the connection between motor and turntable as promised:  :wave:

View of the brass bush showing soldered nut and grub screw.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1337-211116191731-45630266.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1337-211116191729-456281117.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1337-211116191729-456281059.jpeg)

Shaft and final fixing dimensions:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/1337-211116191731-456301722.jpeg)

 :confused2: Any Queries please ask.


Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 21, 2016, 08:08:44 pm
Very impressive but far from my capabilities, alas.
Title: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on January 01, 2017, 07:12:54 am
A New Start renamed.

The layout name that I have settled on is to be Ensbourne (N is Born) to reflect that this is my first N Gauge layout.

The main terminal is to be Ensbourne Town and the through station at the front of the layout will be Ensbourne Cross.

So that is settled, a New Year and a new name for the layout originally called A New Start.

So following on from this post is it possible that this Topic and be renamed Ensbourne?

Which mod is up and about this morning?

Happy New Year.
Title: Ensbourne
Post by: Novice41 on January 01, 2017, 12:42:44 pm
Like it Colin.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 02, 2017, 05:20:29 pm
I have reached a major milestone in my layout build; yesterday I laid the final pieces of track and completed the wiring. So that is it, away with the leftover lengths of Peco code 55 (2 bits left from a box of 30 pieces), cable, track joiners etc.

The final track in the goods yard has been changed from the original plan with just a single carriage siding on the far side of the wall from the terminus and the goods sidings simplified to be a shunting puzzle for added interest.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/49/1337-020317170521-492071076.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/49/1337-020317170520-491791151.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/49/1337-020317170521-492081949.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/49/1337-020317170520-491792127.jpeg)

Now just the ballasting, buildings and scenic work to complete, sounds simple doesn’t it!

But for now, a couple of weeks of just running trains.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: daveg on March 02, 2017, 05:33:41 pm
Congrats.  :thumbsup:

Enjoy the watching trains run!

I think taking a break and running a few trains can help form or fine tune the scenic ideas and plans. I've just spent an hour fiddling with two  :-X street lamps!

Look forward to the next update.

Dave G


Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Delboy on March 02, 2017, 05:44:18 pm
Well done Colin.
Looking great.
Now you can start having some fun.
Regards Dennis
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: RailGooner on March 02, 2017, 05:57:47 pm
 :thankyousign: for the pictures Colin, and congrats on a significant milestone. You're definitely deserving of that couple of weeks of just running trains now. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Newportnobby on March 02, 2017, 09:16:00 pm
Looks great, Colin. Nice use of the 3 way point :thumbsup:
I'll be interested to see how the canal basin and locks turn out when they have 'water' in them.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 03, 2017, 07:13:59 am
A New Start renamed.

The layout name that I have settled on is to be Ensbourne (N is Born) to reflect that this is my first N Gauge layout.

The main terminal is to be Ensbourne Town and the through station at the front of the layout will be Ensbourne Cross.

So that is settled, a New Year and a new name for the layout originally called A New Start.

So following on from this post is it possible that this Topic and be renamed Ensbourne?

Which mod is up and about this morning?

Happy New Year.

On 1st Jan I posted this, and the Topic name was changed to Ensbourne, but when I posted yesterday it has reverted to its original of 'A New Start' :confused1:

Is it possible to change to 'Ensbourne' permanently ???
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: daffy on March 03, 2017, 10:36:45 am
I think only Mods can change a thread name and when you do it when replying it will revert.
I would be very interested in the Mods view as I would like to change my own layout plan thread name slightly.

I know the Mods lurk :-\ everywhere and may read your post soon, but if you click on 'Report to Moderator' yourself you might short-cut their attention.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 04, 2017, 05:28:19 pm
A New Start renamed.

The layout name that I have settled on is to be Ensbourne (N is Born) to reflect that this is my first N Gauge layout.

The main terminal is to be Ensbourne Town and the through station at the front of the layout will be Ensbourne Cross.

So that is settled, a New Year and a new name for the layout originally called A New Start.

So following on from this post is it possible that this Topic and be renamed Ensbourne?

Which mod is up and about this morning?

Happy New Year.


On 1st Jan I posted this, and the Topic name was changed to Ensbourne, but when I posted yesterday it has reverted to its original of 'A New Start' :confused1:

Is it possible to change to 'Ensbourne' permanently ???


 :bump:

Can anyone help? @Tank (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2)
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: Novice41 on March 05, 2017, 09:59:46 am
Looking good Colin. I think you should exhinit it at next year's Bexhill Exhibition.
Title: Re: A New Start
Post by: colpatben on March 06, 2017, 06:38:37 pm
Bumpity  :bump:

A New Start renamed.

The layout name that I have settled on is to be Ensbourne (N is Born) to reflect that this is my first N Gauge layout.

The main terminal is to be Ensbourne Town and the through station at the front of the layout will be Ensbourne Cross.

So that is settled, a New Year and a new name for the layout originally called A New Start.

So following on from this post is it possible that this Topic and be renamed Ensbourne?

Which mod is up and about this morning?

Happy New Year.


On 1st Jan I posted this, and the Topic name was changed to Ensbourne, but when I posted yesterday it has reverted to its original of 'A New Start' :confused1:

Is it possible to change to 'Ensbourne' permanently ???


 :bump:

Can anyone help? @Tank ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2[/url])



I have been back through my emails and note that George @Bealman (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) sent me a message on January 01, 2017, at 07:23:05 am

Happy New Year, Colin!

Done, mate.  :thumbsup:

George

For the final time of asking, can this Topic be permanently renamed Ensbourne?
If I have done something wrong, or it can't be renamed then please say so and I will start a new Topic with the new name.

@Tank (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2)
@scotsoft (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=461) 
@Only Me (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1328) 
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Only Me on March 06, 2017, 06:46:25 pm
@colpatben (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1337)

All future posts will relate to Ensbourne as does the thread title now, but im afraid i havent the time to manually change every previous reply on the last 13 pages to that though  :'(

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Sprintex on March 06, 2017, 06:53:31 pm
All future posts will relate to Endsbourne . . .

. . . unless someone quotes one of the older posts with the previous title at which point all subsequent replies will be titled "Re: A New Start" again ;)

As said, no easy way of changing the title of ALL posts in the thread :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: daffy on March 06, 2017, 07:24:58 pm
Colin, as sure as eggs is eggs, some wag will likely be tempted to quote from an earlier post, or it'll happen inadvertently, and this thread will revert to its original name.

My advice would be to start a new thread entitled 'Ensbourne' and simply cross reference the two threads in their respective first and last posts. :)


Edit: er....... the thread name has gained a 'd' on this posthead. :o How did that happen! :hmmm: :confused2: :doh:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Sprintex on March 06, 2017, 07:52:33 pm
I see Only Me has been in and edited both posts so guessing it was misspelled ;)

Corrected it in your post :)


Paul
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: weave on March 07, 2017, 10:55:40 am
Hi Colin,

Just to say all looking great and looking forward to all the scenic stuff.

Good luck with the thread title.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Bealman on March 07, 2017, 11:13:29 am
We're working on it.

In the meantime, I must say that the terminus station throat is very impressive indeed.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on March 07, 2017, 11:57:16 am
 :thankyousign: to all Moderators for their combined effort in sorting out my Topic title.

Been running trains this morning, maybe some static pictures later today.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on March 07, 2017, 06:29:29 pm
Nearly all my stock on the layout

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/49/1337-070317181207-493211650.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/49/1337-070317181207-493211635.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/49/1337-070317181209-493271041.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/49/1337-070317181209-49327677.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/49/1337-070317181210-493291141.jpeg)

Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Delboy on March 07, 2017, 06:37:16 pm
Looking good Colin
I love the terminus area
And I love rule 1
Dennis
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: daveg on March 07, 2017, 08:28:38 pm
The terminus looks great.  :thumbsup:

Even better if you plan to have it lit!

Dave G
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on May 13, 2017, 06:56:30 am
Mind the Gap.

Having painted the sides of the layout and finally got away from the glaring white of the plaster bandage covering the basic polystyrene core, the layout is looking more ‘Finished’, of course it’s not really!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1337-130517063836-517841441.jpeg)

I have been thinking the return nib in the centre of the layout that adds to the integrity of the rear wall at the centre join of the layout needed to be hidden.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1337-130517063739-517792365.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1337-130517063739-51779177.jpeg)

I cut a horseshoe shaped card former to go around the nib.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1337-130517063740-51781649.jpeg)

Added a factory building from the Wordsworth 00 range (printed at 60% making it a scale of 1:120) as I need a specific height and width.
Later on in the build if it looks over scale I will reduce the print to the correct scale and add a fourth story.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1337-130517063741-517811596.jpeg)

Added a loading bay and it hides the gap quite satisfactorily, and lifts off when I need to split the layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1337-130517063741-517832469.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1337-130517063738-51740518.jpeg)

Also been experimenting with retaining walls and settled on the Scale Scenes R013N red brick wall.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1337-130517063738-517402422.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1337-130517064912-51785413.jpeg)

Back to ballasting or sitting in the Spring sunshine. Decisions, decisions such a tough life.

Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Kaian on May 13, 2017, 08:27:23 am
I like what you have done, the last part hiding the board with the building was very clever.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: PeteW on May 13, 2017, 03:00:15 pm
Yeah, round of applause for some creative thinking. And thanks for the pic of the Scalescenes retaining wall - I've been looking at various solutions but because it's hard to see the various offerings on the layout it's hard to make a decision. Yours looks really good.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on May 13, 2017, 04:55:03 pm
Thanks for the pic of the Scalescenes retaining wall - I've been looking at various solutions but because it's hard to see the various offerings on the layout it's hard to make a decision. Yours looks really good.

It is a bit fiddly and time consuming, but what isn't in N?

I have mounted the wall sections on 3mm foam board to stand it off the backscene which then just drops behind it for a bit of depth.

Tomorrow I will take a couple of photos of the reverse side for you.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Newportnobby on May 13, 2017, 08:07:53 pm
Should I be concerned it looks like the 3 storey warehouse is resting on the top of a retaining wall? :uneasy:
Am I missing some foundations somewhere? :dunce:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 13, 2017, 08:36:14 pm
Very cunning solution, looks excellent.

Don't worry about the foundation NPN, a secant piled wall could be a suitable solution.  ;)
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Newportnobby on May 13, 2017, 08:48:45 pm

Don't worry about the foundation NPN, a secant piled wall could be a suitable solution.  ;)

Thanks, Keith. (I had to Google that one though. Duh :dunce:)
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 13, 2017, 08:53:41 pm

Don't worry about the foundation NPN, a secant piled wall could be a suitable solution.  ;)

Thanks, Keith. (I had to Google that one though. Duh :dunce:)

Damn this interweb thingy! Took me years at university to learn about that kind of stuff.  :D
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Newportnobby on May 13, 2017, 09:15:09 pm

Don't worry about the foundation NPN, a secant piled wall could be a suitable solution.  ;)

Thanks, Keith. (I had to Google that one though. Duh :dunce:)

Damn this interweb thingy! Took me years at university to learn about that kind of stuff.  :D

Self educashun is a wunderfull thing ;D
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Bealman on May 13, 2017, 11:50:02 pm
The layout is really coming along.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on May 14, 2017, 09:09:57 am

Don't worry about the foundation NPN, a secant piled wall could be a suitable solution.  ;)

And the brickwork is only the façade hiding those big ugly piles (thank you  Kieth).

I’d better put some steelwork under the building for good luck, then when my traincam goes underneath you will be in awe at the engineering involved.


Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 15, 2017, 10:22:04 am

Don't worry about the foundation NPN, a secant piled wall could be a suitable solution.  ;)

And the brickwork is only the façade hiding those big ugly piles (thank you  Kieth).

I’d better put some steelwork under the building for good luck, then when my traincam goes underneath you will be in awe at the engineering involved.

Ooo yes please  :camera:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on June 04, 2017, 10:41:50 am
Proper Engineering?

@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) @keithbythe sea (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5078) 

I have re-engineered (or over engineered) the support for the warehouse building,

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1337-040617102131-52427786.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1337-040617102131-5242623.jpeg)

and road bridge!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1337-040617102131-524251647.jpeg)

 :thankyousign: I hope that this meets with your approval.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Newportnobby on June 04, 2017, 12:49:04 pm
It looks great, Colin. Trains will look tremendous at that track level :camera:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Yet_Another on June 04, 2017, 03:06:55 pm
Agree!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: port perran on June 04, 2017, 05:45:51 pm
Looks excellent to me and something a little different.
Well done that man.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: grumbeast on June 05, 2017, 12:02:30 pm
That cutting looks fantastic, its an unusual feature I can't wait to see trains running down it!

 well done!

Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on June 27, 2017, 12:43:01 pm
Lightweight layout update 27th June 2017 No.33.

Been happily bumbling along adding infrastructure, tunnel portals etc along with enjoying the sun, sea and garden.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1337-270617122539-529591440.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1337-270617122539-52959107.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1337-270617122541-529641036.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1337-270617122541-52964383.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1337-270617122543-529662264.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1337-270617122544-52967256.jpeg)

And

then

suddenly

A

FORCED

STOP!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1337-270617122544-5296779.jpeg)

No I didn’t do it with a modelling knife, but in the kitchen and last night's supper almost contained a piece of my thumb!
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Newportnobby on June 27, 2017, 01:01:21 pm
Yikes! :goggleeyes:
Hope the poor thumb recovers quickly.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Yet_Another on June 27, 2017, 01:04:55 pm
Wasn't one of those pesky avocados, was it?
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Innovationgame on June 27, 2017, 01:57:07 pm
Ouch!
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 27, 2017, 09:20:16 pm
Proper Engineering?

@newportnobby ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264[/url]) @keithbythe sea ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5078[/url]) 

I have re-engineered (or over engineered) the support for the warehouse building,

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1337-040617102131-52427786.jpeg[/url])

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1337-040617102131-5242623.jpeg[/url])

and road bridge!

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1337-040617102131-524251647.jpeg[/url])

 :thankyousign: I hope that this meets with your approval.


Oh yes, looking very good Colin.

Sorry to see the thumb, hope all is better soon.  :'(
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on June 27, 2017, 09:39:40 pm
Two things that I have to ask you all following my "Thumb" incident.
1 Are your anti tetanus jabs up to date?
2 Do you have access to a decent first aid kit?

Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Innovationgame on June 28, 2017, 06:38:56 am
Two things that I have to ask you all following my "Thumb" incident.
1 Are your anti tetanus jabs up to date?
2 Do you have access to a decent first aid kit?
Apparently, if you've had more than a certain number of jabs (I think it's 10, but I'm not sure) you don't need any more.  I passed that total long ago and was told that I had a lifetime's worth.  It's certainly worth having a good first aid kit in the house.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on June 28, 2017, 10:07:30 am
Two things that I have to ask you all following my "Thumb" incident.
1 Are your anti tetanus jabs up to date?
2 Do you have access to a decent first aid kit?
Apparently, if you've had more than a certain number of jabs (I think it's 10, but I'm not sure) you don't need any more.  I passed that total long ago and was told that I had a lifetime's worth.  It's certainly worth having a good first aid kit in the house.

Not wishing to delve too deeply into this but from the ‘NHS Choices’ website that is only true if you are young enough to have been through the early years vaccination programme and then the number is 5. This applies to the UK but other countries have their own similar programmes. 

If like me you are somewhat older (b.1947) then I understand that a booster every 10 years is recommend for continuous cover.

So take advice with regard to your own personal circumstances, and cases of Tetanus (also called Lockjaw which sounds much more frightening) are rare in the UK.

In 2013 only 7 cases were reported (non fatal) and all of those were in the age range 35 to 82 years.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tetanus-in-england-and-wales-2013/tetanus-in-england-and-wales-2013 (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tetanus-in-england-and-wales-2013/tetanus-in-england-and-wales-2013)

Anyway as usual I have gone totally  :offtopicsign:. Be careful out there.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Novice41 on June 28, 2017, 03:48:08 pm
Glad to see you have added padstones and wbbs to your girders. Looks much more realistic, Well done. Take care with knives.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on June 28, 2017, 05:30:52 pm
Wasn't one of those pesky avocados, was it?
No I always attack my avocados with a spoon, ‘twas prepping the ham for an omelette what did it!
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on June 28, 2017, 05:33:02 pm
Glad to see you have added padstones and wbbs to your girders. Looks much more realistic, Well done. Take care with knives.

Spoken like a true engineer.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on August 25, 2017, 07:00:28 am
Lightweight layout update 25th August 2017 No.34.

I have been sporadically working on the scenic details of the layout during the summer and thought it was time that I let you all know that I am still active.

I have broken this progress into three posts, each of which highlights a particular aspect so as not to bore you with having to troll through dozens of pictures all at once.

First up is a current overview of the layout.

From the terminus end ultimately to he called ‘Ensbourne Town’ without the overall roof and with most of the supports removed.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817064647-544572323.jpeg)

And from the lock end ‘Ensbourne Basin’ (or some such name).

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817064647-544571296.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817064648-54465336.jpeg)

Returning to the goods yard here we can see the roadway leading from ‘off layout’ to the yard and terminus. This road section is removable to facilitate track cleaning.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817064648-54465463.jpeg)

Very early on in the design stage I wanted a shunting puzzle so here it is with the Dapol uncoupling magnets installed.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817064649-544672001.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817064650-54467223.jpeg)

Below the Terminus the track passes a yard whose use is yet to be determined, scrap or builders or?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817064651-54469965.jpeg)


The ‘Ensbury Junction’ signal box with the Junction station Down Line (wonky) starter signal, and out of focus station ramp.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817064651-544691435.jpeg)


Two tantalising views of the lock basin, so more in my next post later today.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817064652-544711830.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817064652-5447156.jpeg)
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 25, 2017, 07:14:03 am
Looking great Colin. A significant amount of progress over the summer.  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Bealman on August 25, 2017, 07:17:51 am
Wot he said. Looking great.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: weave on August 25, 2017, 07:23:20 am
Agreed, wonderful stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: BoxTunnel on August 25, 2017, 08:03:07 am
The water in your second picture looks amazing.

Graham.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: daveg on August 25, 2017, 08:06:03 am
Cracking set of photos - thank you!

Dave G
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on August 25, 2017, 09:15:12 am
Lightweight layout update 25th August 2017 No.35a

Following on from Post #211

In case you didn’t know that Bexhill-on-Sea apart from being the birthplace of British motor racing Vroom (http://www.discoverbexhill.com/history/bexhill-motor-racing.php) and the home of John Logie Baird  :tv: in the 1940s has a new claim to fame in that it has so many Charity shops that there are coach parties turning up daily just to visit them!

In one of these shops I came across some ‘Lilliput Lane’ cottages’, one of which is now become ‘Hill View’ cottage in the back left corner of the layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817084635-54473353.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817084636-544771743.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817084635-544732482.jpeg)

The small piece of green string that is visible in the bottom of the picture is to pull the little diorama out from under the back scene, because one day I will add more flowers and maybe a veggie patch. Probably job for a cold winter evening?

Bearing in mind that this is a lightweight layout, the cottage being cast resin is almost the heaviest thing on the layout, Rolling stock excluded.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on August 25, 2017, 09:18:40 am
The water in your second picture looks amazing.

Graham.

Wait a while, it gets much better.

To be continued.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Bealman on August 25, 2017, 10:13:48 am
That looks just the part in that location.  :thumbsup:

Easy landscaping tip:

Simply glue some Woodlands Scenics stuff over the base to hide the join  :beers:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Delboy on August 25, 2017, 12:12:38 pm
Hi Colin,
WOW!
Sore thumb or not, you have been working hard on the layout. This is really progressing well and as Graham says, the water looks incredible. You are inspiring me to get going again on my modelling as winter is approaching and I have finally broke the back of my gardening projects for this summer. SWMBO is very impressed with all my outdoor efforts. May soon get day release to access my garage and make some progress on my layout.
Best wishes,
Dennis.
 :beers:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Newportnobby on August 25, 2017, 12:51:45 pm
Thanks for the updates, Colin. Excellent progress :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on August 25, 2017, 07:45:55 pm
Lightweight layout update 25th August 2017 No.34b

Following on from Post #211

And now the pièce de résistance:

@BoxTunnel (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5189)

Full view from Lock Basin end of layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817193422-544968.jpeg)


 Lock side shop and Lock keepers modest abode in the background.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817193422-544962449.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817193423-544991344.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817193423-544991834.jpeg)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817193425-545012456.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817193426-54503932.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817193426-545032205.jpeg)

Paddock.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817193428-54507919.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817193428-54508323.jpeg)

Lower Pasture.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817193429-54510922.jpeg)

Views from rear of layout

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817193430-545111908.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-250817193430-545111374.jpeg)

The actual basin needs some industrial buildings or a warehouse but as yet I can’t find anything suitable, any thoughts would be gratefully received.

My next challenge is the back scene, at the moment it is a hotchpotch of panoramic photos stuck on mounting card that spans from rural on the Left to sky on Right, but I need something to flow around three sides of the layout approx 3000mm long by 70mm high. Guess I will have to learn to paint or enlist the help of our club (Bexhill MRC) resident artist @Novice41 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4783)

Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 25, 2017, 07:50:09 pm
Very good scenic work. Many thanks for all the excellent photos. I also think the water effect is superb. How did you achieve it, please?
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: BoxTunnel on August 25, 2017, 07:55:28 pm
Excellent work, very impressive.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on August 26, 2017, 06:52:57 am
I also think the water effect is superb. How did you achieve it, please?


The water effect is Woodlands Scenics Realistic Water, but please ensure that you have sealed around the edges, this is the most important step as Realistic water is Very thin (low viscosity) and will disappear through the tiniest gap.
When I first poured the lock basin half a bottle disappeared into the bowels of the layout overnight. Another Tenner down the drain, but that’s the story of railway modelling I suppose.

Originally I tried to make the two areas of water scale depth of 4 ft i.e. 8mm, this was NOT a good idea as it means that pouring at the recommended rate of 1/8 inch (3mm) at a time led to shrinkage. Post here http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=26446.msg397193#msg397193 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=26446.msg397193#msg397193)

I eventually realised that this was not necessary and then put a topping of two layers of 2mm card over the original pour with the top side painted a suitable murky green/brown. This left me with just one pour of 2mm and the result is what you now see, I think the surface ripple is a result of the long drying time and large surface area as I did nothing to encourage a ripple in the surface it just ‘happened’.

There are a couple of scratches in the surface of the lower basin so I will need to pour a thin layer over this area to hide them. You can see them in the last picture in post #222. Lesson No.1, never brush debris from a smooth surface always use a vacuum.

Realistic Water never seems to set hard and will deform over time so if you put anything on top of it such as a waterline model boat it will gradually sink. My recommendation would be to set the boats at the correct height before pouring, but my solution will be to drill a couple of pillars through the ‘Water’ down into the base layer end sit the boats on top of these.

Sorry another long answer to a short question. Almost a tutorial.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on August 26, 2017, 07:07:11 am
Lightweight layout update 26th August 2017 No.37

Just a couple of pics with a short empty train waiting for a barge to appear. Or maybe the barge just left with a load on board!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-260817070059-545132007.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-260817070059-54513108.jpeg)

I only added these because I like the way the light sparkles off the water.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-260817070100-54525867.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1337-260817070100-545252433.jpeg)


Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: BoxTunnel on August 26, 2017, 07:10:30 am
Absolutely no need to apologise, it was a very informative answer, and I've bookmarked your thread to refer to when I start on my gravel pit.

Graham.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: weave on August 26, 2017, 07:17:40 am
Agreed, an excellent tutorial, it's the little tips that make all the difference especially with water where most probably haven't do it before. Nice pics too.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 26, 2017, 09:07:41 am
Absolutely no need to apologise, it was a very informative answer, and I've bookmarked your thread to refer to when I start on my gravel pit.

Graham.

Seconded! Many thanks for your comprehensive and informative answer to my question. Woodlands Scenics Realistic Water is one of the options I'm currently considering for the expanses of water at Cant Cove. (One of the last major scenic tasks after I've added the beach sand, Chinchilla Dust -- when I can find the bag!)
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 26, 2017, 09:09:20 am
Thank you, too, for the excellent set of photos. of the NCB Class 14 and NCB mineral wagons. (I once had these but sold them on, some years ago.) I too, really like the reflections and waves on the water area.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on August 26, 2017, 10:19:31 am
Chinchilla Dust -- when I can find the bag!)

First you catch a Chincilla in the bag, and then hoover off the dust :)

Note to self. Always chose the dustiest Chinchilla you can find.

For those that didn't know Chinchilla dust is very very fine sand and can be bought from pet stores. It is excellent for a base coat of N gauge rough surfaces (tarmac etc) or for a model beach.


Can I, by way of this reply aknowledge all of you who have posted 'Thank you' and/or replied to my posts.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Bealman on August 26, 2017, 10:32:20 am
Mate, you're welcome. Your layout is coming on a treat.  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Novice41 on August 26, 2017, 11:30:48 am
Colin, Please give me a buzz and I will get SWMBO to bring me over with my paints to help with the backscene.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on August 26, 2017, 02:59:02 pm
Colin, Please give me a buzz and I will get SWMBO to bring me over with my paints to help with the backscene.
:thankyousign:

We'll catch up when the holiday break is over, I need to formulate a final plan for how the backscene should look.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on September 06, 2017, 11:38:57 am
Lightweight layout update 6th September 2017 No.38

The front L/H corner has always been for a station building on an over bridge. To this end the first attempt (and maybe only attempt) is to kit bash the Metcalf footbridge kit PN-136 and Country station PN-137.

So this is how it is going.

This is where it will sit.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1337-060917104451-550651592.jpeg)

I have cut to the shape of the gap a piece of 40thou plasticard to build the booking hall section of the station, with the footbridge with cut away the rear glazed wall.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1337-060917104451-55065298.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1337-060917104452-55067124.jpeg)

Remove gable ends of booking hall and add an up stand to support the clerestory.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1337-060917104453-550681284.jpeg)

Construct clerestory using the bits from the back wall of the footbridge.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1337-060917104450-550281474.jpeg)

Pop on a flat roof for now as I need to build a pitched roof later.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1337-060917104453-550691645.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1337-060917104449-550282379.jpeg)


The two end parts of the station kit, the stationmasters house and parcels office will be built with flat roofs and set in a straight line along the footbridge edge. The front canopy is still in the design stage.

If I had 6 years I don’t think I could match @rogerdB (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6299) ‘s Wrenton (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38682.0)
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Delboy on September 06, 2017, 03:54:35 pm
Colin,
That is ingenious. Looking really well. Can't wait to see the end product.
Dennis.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on September 29, 2017, 05:20:36 pm
Lightweight layout update 29th September 2017 No.39

Station and forecourt near enough finished, as always the camera will show all flaws so along with capping the roof parapets little bit of additional tidying up to do.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-290917170254-56194193.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-290917170256-562251119.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-290917170256-562251105.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-290917170257-562276.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-290917170257-56227995.jpeg)

This one is a bit out of focus, but I reckon that some cast iron (or plastruct) columns are needed under here.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-290917170712-56229527.jpeg)


Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Newportnobby on September 29, 2017, 09:35:51 pm
That looks pretty damned good, Colin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Bealman on September 29, 2017, 10:55:01 pm
Brilliant kit bash!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: keithbythe sea on September 30, 2017, 07:37:51 am
Excellent! cast iron columns will be much stronger  :D
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on September 30, 2017, 09:22:16 am
Excellent! cast iron columns will be much stronger  :D

But probably on reconsideration overkill for a card building, then I would :no: longer have a lightweight layout!

Maybe I can find some similar to the terminus roof supports. Reply #115 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=26446.msg392000#msg392000)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/1337-080716163152-417861924.jpeg)

Next challenge is painting the back scene :worried: as the card is cut and fitted so something to do for the Autumn.

Thank you all for the kind comments on the kit bash.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Bealman on September 30, 2017, 09:36:51 am
Well deserved, mate. :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Delboy on September 30, 2017, 11:25:32 am
All looking great Colin.
The kit bashing of the station is excellent.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Novice41 on October 17, 2017, 04:32:02 pm
Well, thats the first phase of the backscene painting done. Now, lots of practice before you tackle the next section then we'll have a look at the section behind the station. Progress photos please.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on October 18, 2017, 01:49:40 pm
Lightweight layout update 18th October 2017 No.40

Well, that’s the first phase of the back scene painting done. Now, lots of practice before you tackle the next section then we'll have a look at the section behind the station. Progress photos please.


If you were wondering what @Novice41 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4783) had posted above  :laughabovepost: then all is revealed here:

On Monday Alan visited me to kick start my back scene.

First we (he) painted some sky.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-181017133217-56830186.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-181017133212-568291850.jpeg)

Then some clouds, I did help, and not just by making the tea

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-181017133204-56828468.jpeg)

Now the sky back scenes on the layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-181017133155-568272103.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-181017133145-568261214.jpeg)



Some fields.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-181017133135-568251822.jpeg)

& buildings. Note there is a 15mm parapet wall to go on top of the retaining walls so the blue bit is hidden

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-181017133125-568242152.jpeg)

I did this bit!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-181017133114-56823999.jpeg)

Now I have to raise the horizon on the left to match the horizon along the back behind ‘Hill View Cottage’

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1337-181017133110-56800612.jpeg)

Sometime real soon I am going to attempt the right hand half of the layout! Alan has this saying ‘It’ll Be Alright’ I’m sure it will but I also have his phone number!

Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 18, 2017, 08:45:27 pm
Thank you for the photos. The sky backscene really looks very good.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: keithbythe sea on October 19, 2017, 07:37:45 am
Looking good. It appears from the photo of the mug of tea that you eat your cake with paintbrushes???  :D
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: daveg on October 19, 2017, 07:49:46 am
It appears from the photo of the mug of tea that you eat your cake with paintbrushes???  :D

And what sir, is wrong with that? Cake crumbs must not be wasted!  :foodanddrink:

Dave G
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Delboy on October 19, 2017, 11:34:25 am
By the look of what's left on the plate, as well as cakes, Colin had scones but was not over keen on the clotted cream. LOL.
Seriously though, the sky line is looking good.
Dennis :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Novice41 on October 21, 2017, 08:50:05 am
We had a jolly morning and achieved a lot but still much to do. The trick is to make everything random and soften edges with a dry brush. Lots of practice Colin!
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on December 06, 2017, 10:09:04 am
Lightweight layout update 6th December 2017 No.41

Been playing trains and developing a timetable, but I still need to press on with the scenery etc.

Warehouse kit for the canal basin is now positioned.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1337-061217100022-589181390.jpeg)
I must straighten the wall top where it crosses the layout joint because a ‘Sloping Coping Stone’ (say that 6 times in succession) is not the solution.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1337-061217100022-589182387.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1337-061217100024-58943330.jpeg)

There is a stair tower and entrance doorway to complete and plant.



Red Imp Railways portacabins and skips in primer ready for the builders yard.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1337-061217100024-589432484.jpeg)

If the owner moves in now all the pens will roll off the desks.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1337-061217100025-58945411.jpeg)
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Novice41 on December 06, 2017, 11:40:29 am
The warehouses are looking good. Think the one with the open door could do with a hoist.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on December 07, 2017, 10:55:46 am

Warehouse stairway tower and entrance finished

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1337-071217104616-589701946.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1337-071217104616-58970430.jpeg)

Think the one with the open door could do with a hoist.


Hoist beam (unpainted) in place

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1337-071217104618-589851287.jpeg)
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: daveg on December 07, 2017, 11:06:29 am
Nice job.  :thumbsup:

I think this series, including the brewery, of Metcalfe kits are some of the best they do. Most satisfactory to build I just wish I'd planned and provisioned for internal lighting first!

Dave G
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: port perran on December 07, 2017, 01:40:19 pm
Great stuff.
You have done an excellent job there.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on December 14, 2017, 09:36:56 am
Red Imp portacabin & Skips

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1337-141217093050-592152195.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1337-141217093051-592662072.jpeg)
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on March 23, 2018, 09:59:08 am
Lightweight layout update 23 March 2018 No.42

Just to prove I don’t spend all of the winter on Mainland Spain or The Canaries  8) I have been doing a bit of gardening.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/1337-230318093720-632681366.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/1337-230318093719-63266712.jpeg)
OOPS that padstone is a bit BIG
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/1337-230318093718-632642413.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/1337-230318093718-632641575.jpeg)

The little round bits in the next pic are the bases of the station canopy supports as in  Reply #180 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=26446.msg433655#msg433655)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/1337-230318093853-632692457.jpeg)

Also some ‘Kit Bits’ awaiting to be primed.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/1337-230318093717-632061574.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/1337-230318093717-63206562.jpeg)
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Novice41 on March 23, 2018, 12:34:09 pm
Welcome back Colin. Nice bit of detail. Think your paving could do with a bit of dirtying up.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 23, 2018, 05:55:32 pm
Excellent scenic work, Colin. Thanks for the update and the very good photos. The gardens look highly realistic.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on March 23, 2018, 07:27:17 pm
Think your paving could do with a bit of dirtying up.

Nah, everyone wears carpet slippers outside and NO ONE parks on the pavement. Sorry, one of my pet hates.

Then I remembed my Nan every Saturday out on the front step with her scrubbing brush, galvanised bucket of hot water and Vim cleaning the front step, finishing off with Cardinal red polish.

After that slosh the water across the pavement and use a broom to clean it.

Granddad kept chickens in the back yard. Maybe I should add a chicken coop and a run.

 :offtopicsign: for a nostalgic look at the 1950s.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Novice41 on March 24, 2018, 10:59:02 am
Nice one Colin. Now get out your magnifying glass and recreate her.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Caz on March 24, 2018, 11:59:31 am
That's looking real good Colin, perhaps I should've got you to do some gardening when you visited.    :)
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on March 29, 2018, 06:13:17 pm
When you’ve got one of these.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/1337-290318180226-63522538.jpeg)

And you have turned it around.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/1337-290318180225-63521770.jpeg)

Then you need one of these.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/1337-290318180226-63522932.jpeg)

So it can be fed and watered.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/1337-290318180316-635251816.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/1337-290318180246-6352432.jpeg)

And that is what I have been doing instead of gardening. 

Now I'd better put the handrails on the turn table. :beers:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: port perran on March 29, 2018, 07:35:46 pm
Lovely pictures.
Those 64xx tanks are lovely little models.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 29, 2018, 09:01:04 pm
Excellent Colin, looking good.  :thankyousign:

I too have the red imp portakabins, rather a good model.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Newportnobby on March 29, 2018, 09:35:48 pm
As long as not doing the gardening might result in physical injury then, I agree, feeding and watering the pannier is far more enjoyable :D
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 30, 2018, 09:37:02 am
I agree the 64xx pannier tanks are lovely models. The water crane should be painted in (G)WR colours. Or is it but heavily weathered? You've done a superb job of the little hut. I particularly like the moss on the roof. I really need to do something similar to mine. However, shouldn't the hut door be dark brown rather than green?
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Novice41 on March 30, 2018, 10:13:52 am
I like the rusting turntable - very realistic.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Newportnobby on March 30, 2018, 10:14:51 am
The pannier may have strayed onto Southern Region metals, Chris ;)
They are apt to wander.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 30, 2018, 10:26:18 am
The pannier may have strayed onto Southern Region metals, Chris ;)
They are apt to wander.

Complete with BR / Hawksworth autocoaches, 64xx (as well as 14xx) auto tanks did run on ex-SR lines West Country lines transferred from BR SR to BR WR before dieselisation and closure.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on March 30, 2018, 01:32:03 pm
However, shouldn't the hut door be dark brown rather than green?

Ah, that is because I mislaid, or threw away with the bath water, the brass etches that had the window, door and gable ends for this Kestrel Model. So I improvised (see my motto) and used a bit of an old Metcalf roof vent, I think it is an OK door.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on April 16, 2018, 10:36:48 am
The two DCC fitted M7s that are shown HERE (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38977.msg503122#msg503122) on Ensbourne being tested, in the background just for @Chris in Prague (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895) and @Newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

The pannier may have strayed onto Southern Region metals, Chris ;)
They are apt to wander.


Complete with BR / Hawksworth autocoaches, 64xx (as well as 14xx) auto tanks did run on ex-SR lines West Country lines transferred from BR SR to BR WR before dieselisation and closure.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/1337-160418100818-64232936.jpeg)

To give the Hornby Railmaster that is being used for Bexhill West to Crowhurst (Same link as above Reply #15) a work out I have created the Ensbourne track plan, next step is to transfer the Railmaster software to my XP laptop and run it.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/1337-160418100757-64220651.jpeg)
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 16, 2018, 04:10:30 pm
Thank you, Colin. The two M7s look very good, as does the 14xx plus autocoach.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on April 20, 2018, 08:39:52 am
Now that I almost exclusively operate the layout from the front I cannot see what is happening on the rear main tracks as they are now below my line of sight.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/1337-200418082849-64370978.jpeg)

I have for some time had a El Cheepo hard wired security camera and also a redundant TV monitor.

Solution, remove the camera innards from the weatherproof case.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/1337-200418082906-64373550.jpeg)

And mount it through the retaining wall.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/1337-200418082902-643721442.jpeg)

I can now see the trains in the cutting. The camera also has a microphone so I can also hear the trains running past.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/1337-200418083010-643741451.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/1337-200418083013-64375160.jpeg)

To finish it off I will rebuild that section of wall as a refuge.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Bealman on April 20, 2018, 08:52:46 am
Love it!  :thumbsup:

Those video shots of that cutting immediately bring to mind Eric Treacey's photos of the climb from Liverpool Lime Street (a favourite location of his, apparently).

Like the video camera installation too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Newportnobby on April 20, 2018, 09:47:24 am
A very nifty solution to the problem with the bonus of a great viewing angle of your trains :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Innovationgame on April 20, 2018, 11:54:07 am
Brilliant!
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 20, 2018, 12:56:12 pm
A very nifty solution to the problem with the bonus of a great viewing angle of your trains :thumbsup:
:hellosign:  Gotta agree 2x   :thumbsup:
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: GreyWolf on April 26, 2018, 09:02:42 pm
Another excellent idea to be filed for future use! Thanks and  :greatpicturessign:

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on May 16, 2018, 07:34:18 am
I finished off the camera in reply #274 by disguising it as a refuge.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/1337-160518073015-653021431.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/1337-160518073015-653021189.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/1337-160518073017-653532235.jpeg)
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on May 16, 2018, 08:14:59 am
This layout thread started on 23rd Feb 2015, that is over three years ago!
I am on the home straight now and as I had to move the layout anyway I decided to weigh it, after all it was always as much about the weight as anything else.

Item 10 of my opening post of this Topic:
Needs to be light weight.
And item 15
Baseboard(s) will be light, movable, easy and quick to construct.

Left hand board is 1060mm * 900mm (3ft 6in * 3ft) weighs in at approximately 8 kg. (17 pounds).

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/1337-160518074224.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/1337-160518074327.jpeg)

Right hand board is 900mm * 900mm (3ft * 3ft) weighs in at approximately 6 kg (13 pounds).

 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/1337-160518073019-6535633.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/1337-160518074404.jpeg).

The loose bits, terminus canopy, junction station, footbridge, vehicles etc are removed before handling the layout, because when upending it they could fall off.

There is not much else to do other than some tinkering around the edges and a little bit of work on the RH back scene. I will be posting updates as I carry out the various items of the completion works.

 As this saga is drawing to a close it is with regret  :'( that I will be disposing of this layout when completed which will be during the autumn of this year.

Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 16, 2018, 09:02:18 am
Thanks for the update, Colin. Good to see that it has nearly finished but sorry that it will then be sold.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Newportnobby on May 16, 2018, 09:56:31 am
A great shame the layout will be sold. Will you be creating another?
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: GreyWolf on May 16, 2018, 05:26:51 pm
A very interesting perspective on the layout - sorry you'll be getting rid of it - but more room for a new one?

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on June 04, 2018, 01:35:19 pm
A few more photos of the almost finished layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-040618132341-660462434.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-040618132341-660451249.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-040618132340-660432297.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-040618132340-66043536.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-040618132339-66041972.jpeg)

Unbelievably there has been faultless running of all of the stock that can be seen on the layout at the moment.

Almost unseen under the station roof standing at platform 2 is a Class 64xx coupled to a Hawksworth autocoach, whilst at platform 3 a 4CEP is awaiting to depart.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-040618132339-660412334.jpeg)



I will not be doing much more other than completing the backscene @Novice41 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4783) before offering this layout for sale.

I have been setting up the Hornby Railmaster software that will be used on the Bexhill Museum layout HERE (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38977.msg501598#msg501598),
 so the best way is to use it and get to grips with its idiosyncrasies of which there are a few but none too serious. This is the new touch screen that will be wall mounted alongside the layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-040618132342-660471562.jpeg)
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Novice41 on June 04, 2018, 04:24:04 pm
Looking good Colin. Seems such a shame that it has to go. I'm still up for finishing the backscene if you want me to help. :(
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: port perran on June 04, 2018, 04:47:17 pm
That’s a great layout and a most impressive station.
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: Caz on June 04, 2018, 08:30:02 pm
Cracking layout Colin, love the big basin and canal scene.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ensbourne
Post by: colpatben on June 23, 2018, 07:07:19 am
More finishing touches.

Beneath the station building was a little bare, I had an old Metcalfe boilerhouse kit so I cut the open water tank off the roof and now it fills the gap nicely.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-230618065648-667971839.jpeg)


Columns to support the roadway.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-230618065648-66797457.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-230618065707-668001927.jpeg)

Some trees and a post box:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-230618065650-667991314.jpeg)

Looking Good:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-230618065647-6677614.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-230618065647-667762449.jpeg)


A printed label sheet:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-230618065715-66802943.jpeg)

Plus some plasticard:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-230618065716-66803960.jpeg)

Equals Running In Boards:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-230618065716-668042278.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/1337-230618065715-668011764.jpeg)