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Title: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 17, 2014, 06:38:51 pm
An introduction

I thought it might be a good idea to gather together my efforts in a dedicated layout topic rather than pepper the “What are people doing on their layout right now?”Ě thread with these intermittent signs of life, such as they are.

This is my first proper attempt at a UK N gauge layout since about 1970 (when a schoolboy’s pocket money didn’t get me very far anyway) and was brought about by the long overdue arrival of the game-changing products we’re only now starting to take for granted.  Well, that and the discovery that I could offload a lifetime’s worth of 4mm and 7mm items on ebay rather more easily than I’d imagined.

At the moment I’m heading in the direction of a 1960s world of steam and green diesels, although with a healthy dose of Rule 1 thrown in as I’ve already acquired three Japanese EMUs despite best intentions.  The layout lives in a 40 feet by 10 loft, although I’m currently only using half of that - N gauge really is small when you’re used to OO and O.

As well as a change of scale, I’m intending to move from my normal freight-centric approach to a passenger focused one, with the emphasis on urban multiple unit workings and largely under wires.  As a Black Country boy born and bred, I get somewhat agoraphobic if there’s nothing holding the sky up.

Finally, and most importantly, this is a zero cost project, funded entirely by the sale of my older model railway items.  I’ve sunk enough cash into the model railway trade for one lifetime, I think.  If only I could get SWMBO to take a similar stance with shoes…
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 17, 2014, 06:41:42 pm
First steps

Iíve started off with storage sidings in the form of a temporary fiddle-yard feeding a simple and equally temporary dog-boned double track oval.  Past experience has shown me I need somewhere to park stock and run trains from at the earliest stage of a layout if Iím to avoid too much handling of the stock.  Also, as Iím new to N, I need to be able to run trains to get a feel both for what train lengths Ďlook rightí to me in this scale and what typical locomotives can manage to pull.  So something quick and temporary seemed a sensible first step while I re-learned things.

Iíve taken this initial step using Kato Unitrack on the baseboards my old OO fiddle-yard once lived on, which brings me nicely to a bit of cutínípaste from the original thread...


Update originally posted Nov 18th 2013



100% Kato in my (unfinished!) fiddle yard.  Being able to quickly change things as the layout evolves is a feature worth buying in to for me - seems like I've spent half of my life re-engineering fiddle yards and enough's enough!


The cab-ride video was filmed with a Branor Systems CamTruck.  Only a standard definition one, unfortunately, but he does HD as well - subject to availability.


Update originally posted Nov 19th 2013



Testing the lengths of various trains and how they fit in the fiddle yard.  Being relatively new to N I don't have a 'feel' for this like I did in 4mm.  For a start, trains take up a little more space than I estimated because of the size of those infernal Rapido couplings.




A guard's eye view of yesterday's fiddle yard testing session, filmed with the Branor Systems CamTruck.  Although I don't intend to run 60 wagon trains normally, they're a tight fit in the fiddle yard so I'm planning to lengthen it.  Space on the longest roads for a 60 wagon train with two locos should give a comfortable fit and allow for poor parking  :-[
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 17, 2014, 06:43:47 pm
Update originally posted Dec 31st 2013



Work proceeds a(snails)pace on the fiddle yard.  In an effort to give it a scenic dimension (this is the age of the onboard camera, after all) I've bunged in a Kato ready-to-plonk station.  At the cost of one track's width, this gives me somewhere to park my Japanese EMUs from time to time  :)



Just around the corner from the first shot is this junction, nicknamed Gallifrey West for the time being due to the elastic nature of the space-time continuum in the area.  The grey concrete-based track to the bottom right marks the place for a third Kato double-crossover that I haven't actually ordered as yet.  The few wooden offcuts are a place-holder for an over bridge.

If you look closely the nearest point has been chopped with a razor saw to remove the diverging curved part.  The two tracks on the right lead to the station and are now DCC enabled.  The leftmost tracks remain plain DC until I get some more N-sized decoders.   :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 17, 2014, 06:45:12 pm
Update originally posted Jan 2nd 2014


Just been trouble-shooting, as not all of the DCC-enabled track seems to be working.  The fault seems to be with a connector I'd dismantled to see how it (no longer) worked  :-[




Took a quick video while playing about.  A bit dark now I've added various obstructions, I think I either need to get some more lighting at the back of the fiddle yard or pretend it's Birmingham New Street  :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 17, 2014, 06:46:14 pm
Update originally posted Jan 6th 2014


An historic photo.  Not so much the cutting of the first sod, but the removal of the last OO point, just visible at the centre of the pic, under what will be a temporary Unitrack N reverse loop for a month or two.  I've spent the afternoon eradicating the final patch of troublesome OO  :beers: 
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 17, 2014, 06:47:46 pm
Update originally posted Jan 8th 2014


(Unfortunately this video ended up in 2 parts as I unwittingly discovered a serious bug in iMovie that trashed the half-complete project file when I broke for tea!)






I get more impressed by Kato Unitrack's ease of use every time I have a play.  I can see I'll need to work hard to stop it spreading beyond the fiddle yard  :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 17, 2014, 06:48:43 pm
Update originally posted Jan 20th 2014

My recent activity:

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 17, 2014, 06:50:00 pm
Update originally posted Jan 26th 2014




Spent the afternoon wiring a few block sections in and then testing them.  Lots and lots of testing  :D

Then I removed my temporary return loop, ready for the next phase of track laying.  Quickly realised, however, that I'd not got a driver's eye record of it, so bunged it back down and whizzed the trusty CamTruck around  8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 17, 2014, 06:50:39 pm
Update originally posted Feb 12th 2014


Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: scotsoft on February 17, 2014, 08:35:51 pm
Thank you for collecting all your videos and pictures in one place, I have watched every single video and thoroughly enjoyed them  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Sprintex on February 17, 2014, 09:09:36 pm
Excellent collection of videos 8)


Paul
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Geoff on February 17, 2014, 09:51:52 pm
I enjoyed your video's Steve, and the space you have is fantastic, just one question does the Kato stations work well with the British Loco's and rolling stock?

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Lawrence on February 17, 2014, 09:55:12 pm
Ye Gods man!  Did you rob a Kato factory? that is a lot of track Steve, wish I had that kind of room.  That Chou line train will look super going round that circuit.
Promise I will get in touch about that spare Greenmax stuff  :-[
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 17, 2014, 10:13:58 pm
does the Kato stations work well with the British Loco's and rolling stock?

Yes, fine.  No clearance issues.  In a couple of the videos you should be able to see a rake of Stanier coaches if you look to the right under the canopies.  They look 'right' to my eyes at least.

I did see you ask a question about the platform heights elsewhere, but couldn't find it again after I'd measured them.  My Kato platforms are about 15mm high, which is about 8mm above Kato rail level - Kato track being quite deep.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: portland-docks on February 18, 2014, 03:12:49 pm
im desperate for one of those camera trucks! i was told i could order one at xmas but i never heard back from him :( another email to be sent i think!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 21, 2014, 08:40:20 am


Iíve finally got track right around what will be the main layout area.  Although obviously this will need a lot of additions and tweeking, the scattered UniTrack at least defines the bones of the creature and I can start to block in some scenery.

Do-list: buildings and green-things-that-aren't-diesels ;)


Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: PostModN66 on February 21, 2014, 08:58:47 am
First steps

[url]http://youtu.be/-WgCtzOjwLs[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/-WgCtzOjwLs[/url])

A guard's eye view of yesterday's fiddle yard testing session, filmed with the Branor Systems CamTruck. 


Steve - I really like this video from the camera truck - to me it makes it much more interesting to see the loco rather than the usual drivers-eye view.

More like this please!  In fact, how about this for an idea - remember the set-up of loco and wagons and periodically make the "same" video as the scenery develops.  It would be fascinating to see the changes, a bit like that real London to Brighton video that was redone at various times!

Cheers

Jon   :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 21, 2014, 09:06:18 am
Steve - I really like this video from the camera truck - to me it makes it much more interesting to see the loco rather than the usual drivers-eye view.


Jon - yes, there are all sorts of interesting possibilities.  Have a look at this chap's video to see some of the different 'chase' viewpoints that'd be fun to do:

http://youtu.be/NAgZzEXUi9c (http://youtu.be/NAgZzEXUi9c)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: PostModN66 on February 21, 2014, 09:13:55 am
Brilliant - thanks for sharing this.

I love seeing really well-made model railway videos, I think they help to elevate the status of the hobby.  Especially N Gauge ones.

...but if I am imagining that I am standing on a train with a cine camera, I would like to see some of the train I am standing on, as well as the train I am filming!  That's where your simple guards-van view scores highly.

Cheers   Jon  :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 01, 2014, 11:15:21 am


Amongst other things, these 4 Kato buildings arrived from http://www.traintrax.co.uk/index.php (http://www.traintrax.co.uk/index.php) this morning - seemed rude not to take advantage of the extra 10% discount when offered :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 02, 2014, 10:34:35 am

Fate provided a healthy number of hobby hours yesterday, which were spent in the loft with Joan Armatrading’s ‘Into the Blues’ and Ana Popovic’s ‘Can You Stand the Heat’ on repeat play 8)

The primary task was installing more trackwork and wiring (other side of the loft and not pictured) whilst resisting the temptation to run trains.  At the end of proceedings, however, I had a little play with the structures and trackwork in the station/fiddleyard area.  A couple of extra lengths of Kato platform (23-107) went in, together with the Katio 23-123 Station Extension Set which is the sticky-out bit on the right-hand side of the station.

Unfortunately the latter didn’t fit together in the way I’d assumed, which meant turning the station buildings through 180 degrees.  I’m not sure I like it that way, so I’m pondering various options and repositionings at the moment.  Last resort will be the razor saw, but I’m trying to avoid that as it’s supposed to be a simple plonk’n’play solution.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 12, 2014, 06:26:26 pm


Latest update, including station details and plenty of trains going by...
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: portland-docks on March 12, 2014, 06:35:23 pm
i laughed soo much when you started just throwing stuff down and dumping everything that was comedy gold :P great update though!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 20, 2014, 10:39:06 pm


With the warmer weather earlier this week (where's it gone?) I've spent a lot of time in the loft, but haven't really taken any photos or video for an update.  Instead, here's a quick whizz round a small part of the layout in the brake van.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: mr magnolia on March 21, 2014, 06:06:27 am
Nice trip - scary giant!
Thanks for sharing.
Donald
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on March 21, 2014, 10:07:33 am
An interesting perspective :hmmm:
Agree about the giant though - didn't I see you in series 4 of Game of Thrones :o
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 23, 2014, 09:00:02 pm

Visitors today, so not much to report other than work has started on the basic carcass for retaining walls and abutments.  Thick plastic sheet, left over from US HO building kits.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: portland-docks on March 23, 2014, 09:01:53 pm
could i ask you what you used for your camera car? :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 23, 2014, 09:23:21 pm
could i ask you what you used for your camera car? :)

It's the Branor Systems one, see the start of the thread for further details.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: D1059 on March 23, 2014, 10:54:24 pm
Only just caught up with this project. Good luck - it was a large enough area in OO (remembering your various blogs over the years), in N it's huge

Are you going for semi automated operation again ?
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Pengi on March 24, 2014, 07:05:39 am
Looks very good :thumbsup:

P.S. great videos, I use iMovie too
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 24, 2014, 07:53:58 am
Are you going for semi automated operation again ?

Possibly, I've certainly wired in block sections with this in mind.  But I'm also mindful that I got so hooked on DCC & computers before that it took over my hobby.  This time I want to actually get some scenery done!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 24, 2014, 07:56:21 am
P.S. great videos, I use iMovie too

Be very wary, then, of using the hash symbol in a project/movie name.  You can't reopen the project as I found to my cost! :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 26, 2014, 04:50:38 pm

A couple of aerial shots showing the fiddle yard corner and throat.  The area in the second photo joins onto the right side of the first in real life.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on March 26, 2014, 06:13:29 pm
Did you remove the roof to take those?

Or have you got your own N gauge Google Earth satellite?
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 26, 2014, 07:14:48 pm
Did you remove the roof to take those?

Whilst admittedly it's colder now, photography is a lot easier since the recent storms ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 01, 2014, 07:27:54 pm


Update number 5.  New stock arrives, some scenery starts to appear and trains roll on by.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on April 01, 2014, 08:30:27 pm
I hope that you'll be renumbering all those 16 tonners - you can take standardisation too far you know  :P
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 02, 2014, 09:53:21 am
I hope that you'll be renumbering all those 16 tonners - you can take standardisation too far you know  :P

I wouldn't recommend you hold your breath :D



And talking of holding breath, I never heard any more about the Tomy office building you ordered from Japan.  If you've received it, I'd be interested to know a couple of things before I order one.  Is it a kit or ready-to-plonk?  And are the windows transparent/translucent, or is it one of those awkward to light solid jobbies?
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 02, 2014, 11:37:58 am
Just acquired a couple of tins of scenery coloured emulsion.  Got my mother to pick them up as she gets an extra 10% discount as a pensioner.

Just for once I don't feel old :laugh:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Tank on April 02, 2014, 03:25:41 pm
Wonderful, I'm really enjoying this. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: scottmitchell74 on April 02, 2014, 03:33:21 pm
Great thread! Thanks for sharing.  :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on April 02, 2014, 10:23:38 pm


And talking of holding breath, I never heard any more about the Tomy office building you ordered from Japan.  If you've received it, I'd be interested to know a couple of things before I order one.  Is it a kit or ready-to-plonk?  And are the windows transparent/translucent, or is it one of those awkward to light solid jobbies?


You should have asked when you were in collecting your swag - you could have had a look.

(http://westmidlandlines.co.uk/images/ob1.jpg)

Ready to plonk.

Each two floor section can be removed - is glazed and even has a hole in the middle for wiring, lights, fireman's pole or whatever.

The roof is a bit featureless and the bottom floor a bit unconvincing, but plenty of scope.

The 16T is to give an idea of the size (I didn't have 20 to lay end to end...)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 02, 2014, 10:43:16 pm
Ready to plonk.

Each two floor section can be removed - is glazed and even has a hole in the middle for wiring, lights, fireman's pole or whatever.

The roof is a bit featureless and the bottom floor a bit unconvincing, but plenty of scope.

The 16T is to give an idea of the size (I didn't have 20 to lay end to end...)

Thanks - looks good enough to order one 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 03, 2014, 09:20:45 am


A driver's eye view travelling clockwise on line 1, filmed with a Branor Systems CamTruck.  Taken to see how the height of some polystyrene scenery formers looks from the cab before going any further.

Plenty of BR blue action in this one.  I thought I was modelling green era? :-[
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 03, 2014, 11:33:44 am




Consumer's guide to some of the items popping up in the cab ride video:

Kato 24-270 yard crew figures (6 pack)
Kato 23-508 Japanese pickup truck and van set (4 pack)
Kato 23-480 Japanese gable roof house
Kato 23-481 Japanese gable roof house and store
Greenmax 2166 gate and wall Set
Hornby Skale Scenics R8922 100mm ash trees (2 pack)

Quick snaps with an iPad - apologies for any lacking depth of field!

 
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Railwaygun on April 03, 2014, 01:29:37 pm
This great layout proves my pint that you can never have too much Unitrack!

Nick Rr
(60m Unitrack and growing)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bluebottle on April 05, 2014, 12:30:59 pm
Hi Steve, really enjoying this, man after my own heart, kato unitrack, buildings, loco's etc, but still wont that 1960's to 70's uk feel to it all, perfect, love the way you put your video's together, make it very easy and interesting to watch!, comments a nice touch, ( hat on in the loft due to cold, know how this feels being out in the garage!) watch with interest your comments on farish and dapol loco's as you will know how well the Kato/Tomix/Microace stuff runs.

               Thanks again Steve, will watch with interest! Steve.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 06, 2014, 08:25:52 am
Thanks, Steve.  I'm having a lot of fun with it at the moment, N gauge has really grabbed me 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 18, 2014, 05:14:01 pm

There's been a rare outbreak of scenery at Jones Towers, the first for around 15 years if memory serves :-[

I've been working on some removable view blocks over the last couple of weeks, pretty simple but they've turned out better than I expected as scenery must be my 'most rusty' area.

Laminated expanded polystyrene packaging, a coat of terracotta coloured emulsion paint, some woodland scenics bits sprinkled on while the paint was wet and some Hornby trees poked into holes.  Now I'm hooked and want to start the scenery proper 8)

Also pictured is my only new item of stock for a while, a Dapol Gresley Buffet snapped up on ebay :thumbsup:

'Scuse the temporary wooden 'bridge' - it links the Kato area (fiddle yard) with the rest of the loft.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: jonclox on April 18, 2014, 07:03:53 pm
Another who has felt the urges of spring and started going all horticultural on their layout via scenery....its the same thing as I`m starting to suffer feel coming on only Ive yet to plant mine up  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 18, 2014, 08:32:04 pm
Another who has felt the urges of spring and started going all horticultural on their layout via scenery
It was either that or mow the lawn :no:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: jonclox on April 18, 2014, 09:01:20 pm
Another who has felt the urges of spring and started going all horticultural on their layout via scenery
It was either that or mow the lawn :no:
:laugh3: :laugh3: I know what you mean.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on April 18, 2014, 10:18:34 pm
It was either that or mow the lawn :no:
Trade the dogs in on some sheep   ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 19, 2014, 07:50:06 am
Trade the dogs in on some sheep   ;)
And there I was expecting my friendly local retailer to recommend trading the lawn for a truckload of Woodland Scenics :D

While I'm still all "Gardeners' World" here's a still from a quick CamTruck test video which shows the "coming through the trees" (a quote for Kate Bush fans, there!) effect I'm trying to achieve.  As ever, the layout is primarily being designed with an onboard cam point-of-view in mind.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Maurits71 on April 19, 2014, 09:27:10 am
start looking better and better Steve.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on April 19, 2014, 11:54:55 am
And there I was expecting my friendly local retailer to recommend trading the lawn for a truckload of Woodland Scenics :D
Funnily enough I did get a pallet load in in anticipation of you going all Alan Titchmarsh  :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on April 19, 2014, 12:03:45 pm
It was either that or mow the lawn :no:
Trade the dogs in on some sheep   ;)

We've got heaps of them in Australia, but not so many in urban areas. As I've said on more than one occasion on this forum, just pour beer over your lawn. Comes up half-cut.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 25, 2014, 01:20:38 pm

The fiddle-yard dressed as a station continues to progress.  6 of the lines double as platform roads, 2 more act as avoiding lines and then there are further 4 (so far) depicting plain old sidings.

There seems to be rather a lot of blue around, considering this is supposed to be a green era layout! :D



Last week’s bit-of-wood-standing-in-for-a-bridge has now been replaced by a pair of Kato 20-432 Truss Bridges on Kato 23-017 piers.  It’s not actually linked into the layout as yet, but is an important part of the next phase.  A lot more vegetation is needed in this area.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on April 25, 2014, 02:16:06 pm
Looking very good although, as you say, much greenery needed - especially in the motive power stakes :telloff: ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Sprintex on April 25, 2014, 05:38:59 pm
Stick with the blue  :D

I like that truss bridge, strange because I don't normally like such things but that just looks right for some reason :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on April 27, 2014, 02:39:56 am
Looking very good although, as you say, much greenery needed - especially in the motive power stakes :telloff: ;)

What he said. Stick with the blue....? Stick with the PONIES, Paul (though I do agree that the girder bridge looks good.  ;D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 27, 2014, 09:03:07 am
It's still a green era layout, but there will always be some BR blue in my loft.  It wove itself into my joys when joys were vivid :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: grumbeast on April 27, 2014, 02:11:48 pm
Two lovely liveries, it's so hard to choose so apply rule 1 and have both or all :)

Grahm
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 27, 2014, 02:40:52 pm
Two lovely liveries, it's so hard to choose so apply rule 1 and have both or all :)

You're quite close to my actual plan, there :D  By eventually having my blue diesels in Pre-TOPS guise I can just shift a few of the early steam items from the layout and replace them with blue diesels.  The bulk of the stock would be common to both steam/green and green/blue transition periods.

I'm still working on a plausible excuse for Japanese trains ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 27, 2014, 05:12:14 pm

Itching to see trains running over the new girder bridges, I gave in and clipped a power connector in place at one end of the run.  It’s still not connected to the rest of the layout, so care is needed with the direction control :goggleeyes:



At the other side of the bridge, I needed to join the Kato track to some Peco code 55 I’ve placed loosely around the rest of the layout.  I chopped out the sides from part of a Kato length so I could glue it down at a lower level.  The Peco code 55 is also glued down with a  cardboard shim to match the heights.  The two brands are not joined with fishplates.

After a lot of careful alignment and adjustment, there was still a bit of a bump in one rail once I took the weights off. :censored: ! :veryangry:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 28, 2014, 11:58:42 am


Update #6
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bluebottle on April 28, 2014, 02:07:46 pm
Hi Steve,

Just loving this, Kato viaducts and bridges are the best!, yet again fantastic program making, so interesting, love your style!, as for Green or blue?, not fussed as long as it runs well, which means more JR traction form Japan!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Shaun Harvey on May 05, 2014, 09:58:39 am

The fiddle-yard dressed as a station continues to progress.  6 of the lines double as platform roads, 2 more act as avoiding lines and then there are further 4 (so far) depicting plain old sidings.

There seems to be rather a lot of blue around, considering this is supposed to be a green era layout! :D

Wow, my kind of station!

Shaun



Last week’s bit-of-wood-standing-in-for-a-bridge has now been replaced by a pair of Kato 20-432 Truss Bridges on Kato 23-017 piers.  It’s not actually linked into the layout as yet, but is an important part of the next phase.  A lot more vegetation is needed in this area.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 05, 2014, 05:04:23 pm
Wow, my kind of station!

Shaun

Thanks  :wave:


Not much progress of late, due to the arrival of a 12 week old rescue kitten - unfortunately the only one of his litter to survive.

He's now named Kato :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on May 05, 2014, 09:16:16 pm
As the owner of a rescue cat myself, you are completely forgiven :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on May 05, 2014, 09:31:50 pm
He's now named Kato :D
Does he attack you frequently then?  :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA8QrOAghZ0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA8QrOAghZ0)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 06, 2014, 08:39:52 am
Does he attack you frequently then?  :P
Now it's funny you should mention that... :o
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 07, 2014, 10:52:35 am


The latest cab ride, number 6, journeys around the part of the layout that'll be properly scenic eventually.  I had intended to upload this almost a week ago, but never quite got things finished as I've been playing with the new kitten more than the trains :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on May 07, 2014, 11:40:54 am
Fascinating insight into what is a monster layout - how the heck do you keep the track clean? :goggleeyes:
Great to see Kato is feeling at home and, for one moment, I thought you'd nicked my clock but a quick check of the mantelpiece showed it was still there :)
The 'dark side of the layout' reminded me of the old 'Tunnel of Love' fairground ride so popular in my time :-[ :angel:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: 1936ace on May 07, 2014, 11:59:07 am
Good on you for doing the animal rescue. We tried last year but found out the hard way that the eldest was super allergic to cats. Cat lasted three days luckily one of Nicole's workmates wanted a cat. Ended up very expensive for me we now have a border collie puppy
Great thread on your setup enjoying the progress
Bart
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 08, 2014, 08:23:44 am
how the heck do you keep the track clean? :goggleeyes:

Actually, I've not had to clean it as yet.  Not the rails in the traditional way anyway - I have had to vacuum up sawdust and expanded polystyrene balls a few times!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 09, 2014, 12:59:13 pm

When Iím not being mauled by the new Kittenosaurus Rex, I have managed to press on with some of the scenery.  The above photo shows the vegetation starting to creep down one of those wooded hillsides beloved of American and Japanese layout builders.

Most of the greenery is Woodland Scenics medium green bushes, stuck down with cheap PVA glue.  A slower process than Iíd expected, largely because the little funsters keep rolling down the hillside!  But now Iíve discovered the benefits of laying the scenic pieces flat before sticking the bushes on :)



Elsewhere Iíve been painting matt black emulsion on to the loft timbers to minimise their visibility in photos and videos.  Looks a lot better, I think.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on May 09, 2014, 04:25:35 pm

When Iím not being mauled by the new Kittenosaurus Rex, I have managed to press on with some of the scenery.  The above photo shows the vegetation starting to creep down one of those wooded hillsides beloved of American and Japanese layout builders.

Blimey Steve, that's impressive.

BTW a cocktail stick or similar would restrain the bush whilst the glue sets.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 09, 2014, 05:18:31 pm
Blimey Steve, that's impressive.

BTW a cocktail stick or similar would restrain the bush whilst the glue sets.

Thank you, kind sir :)

I don't know why I didn't think of that, especially considering the polystyrene formers were pinned together in a similar fashion (nails) while the glue dried.  Fortunately the scenery is in removable chunks so can be laid flat to thwart Isaac Newton and his devilish plan ;)

PS - before you do too much maths, some of that Woodland Scenics stuff is around 30 years old so you'll not be making your fortune from me just yet :P
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 11, 2014, 09:45:58 am
Looks like the coming week's train set expenditure will be largely accounted for by half a dozen fluorescent tubes.  4 have gone in recent times and the Dark Side of the Loft is now way too dark to work on!

They were only coming up for 16 years old, is nothing made to last these days?  ;) :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on May 11, 2014, 12:12:29 pm
Obvious - build that side of the loft as a night-time scene.

You can always use a miner's helmet when working on it - it'll protect against hitting your head on the joists too.  :P
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 11, 2014, 06:19:13 pm
You can always use a miner's helmet when working on it

Tsk, tsk, that's even illegal if you work for the BBC these days :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 16, 2014, 04:16:46 pm

This morning's addition: 3 new platform canopy sections where previously the rain could get in.  Platform lengths have been tweaked, too.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 17, 2014, 08:23:20 am

I've done a little more work on the wooded hillside, another layer of expanded polystyrene is pinned in place while the glue dries.

Also visible to the left is a new building (Kato 23-433A) and on the right a new double-track truss girder bridge (Kato 20-439) not in it's proper position as yet.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 17, 2014, 04:34:28 pm


Layout update #7, with the magnificent Deltic Prototype pootling around various new features 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: NeMo on May 17, 2014, 05:05:42 pm
I'm really struck by how "1960s Britain" these (presumably Japanese) Kato station units look. With appropriate tweaks like posters and signs, you really are creating something that smacks of the bright new world of concrete and glass that came in with stations such as Milton Keynes.

Cheers, NeMo

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 21, 2014, 04:14:19 pm

Just been 'enjoying' the warmth in the loft and making a few changes to the station throat.  After much experimentation I've settled on a platform length that's 248mm (one Kato section) less than originally planned, so I've moved a few block sections to match (look for the black insulated rail joiners) and a crossover.

Next step is to add more pointwork, the first pair of which can be seen positioned loosely on the tracks.  But first, I need a refreshing cup of Twining's finest...
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Wingman mothergoose on May 21, 2014, 04:27:47 pm
I'm really struck by how "1960s Britain" these (presumably Japanese) Kato station units look. With appropriate tweaks like posters and signs, you really are creating something that smacks of the bright new world of concrete and glass that came in with stations such as Milton Keynes.

Cheers, NeMo

I was thinking more along the lines(pardon the pun) of Derby Midland post 1954 rebuilding of the platform canopies...
Looks great though!

Chris
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 21, 2014, 04:38:58 pm
I was thinking more along the lines(pardon the pun) of Derby Midland post 1954 rebuilding of the platform canopies...
Looks great though!


(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3201/5739302149_80a713b6d7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/9Kaqzk)

The canopy style reminds me a lot of University in Birmingham, a station that played a central part in my daily commute a few years back.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Tank on May 21, 2014, 07:06:26 pm
What a great station area.  I'm wanting to do something similar, and I'm using Kato track, but my mind has been blank.  :(  This is a boost to my moral to see yours.  :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 21, 2014, 08:06:56 pm
I'm wanting to do something similar, and I'm using Kato track, but my mind has been blank.

Get stuck in :D

The beauty of clip-together track and platforms is you can just bung it down, change it around, and see what looks right.  I find quick photos and videos help a lot in the contemplation phase, too 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Tank on May 21, 2014, 08:10:58 pm
LOL  Yes, it's speedy construction is what has drawn me away from Peco.  I've just been on Train Trax and added up what I 'think' I need.  I'm guessing each platform section is enough for a Mk3 carriage? ???  I can't go upstairs to measure what I need as the boys are asleep.   ::) ;D
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Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 21, 2014, 08:34:38 pm
I'm guessing each platform section is enough for a Mk3 carriage?


I don't have any Mk3s, but a quick snap with some Mk1s & 2s should give you an idea.  Mk1s are 64 footers, Mk3s are longer but you'd still get 1.5 plus per Kato platform length (248mm)
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Post by: Tank on May 21, 2014, 09:45:11 pm
Brilliant!  Thanks for doing that.  That'll save me money in the long run then! :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Wingman mothergoose on May 21, 2014, 10:09:56 pm
MK1's are 63 foot 6 inches ;-)

Chris
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: redtrain on May 22, 2014, 02:13:26 pm

This morning's addition: 3 new platform canopy sections where previously the rain could get in.  Platform lengths have been tweaked, too.

I like this a lot. The layout is great and I look forward to each new video as it helps me think about where I am going. This station shot really was helpful the other day.

Marcus
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 22, 2014, 11:00:32 pm
it helps me think about where I am going. This station shot really was helpful the other day.

Cheers Marcus, glad you find it useful 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Pengi on May 23, 2014, 07:07:26 am
This is a terrific layout and really like the way that you are using the train cam to influence the building of it. The station is looking really good :thumbsup:

I see that you have not yet added the platform ends and wondered if it was because Kato do not make the sloping platform ends that the UK has :( ? I am seeing more and more platform ends with steps as platforms as lengthened to accommodate  longer trains - so the Kato platform ends with steps may not be so out of place in UK layouts.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Sprintex on May 23, 2014, 07:25:38 am
Kato must make sloping platform ends as they are part of this kit:-

Rural Platform (http://www.traintrax.co.uk/23130-rural-platform-p-432.html)

On Traintrax site that is the ONLY place I can find them though, every other platform seems to have straight or tapered ends with steps as you mentioned :hmmm:


Paul
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Wingman mothergoose on May 23, 2014, 09:06:34 am
This is what I meant by Derby Midland, look at the very first photo...

http://www.derby-signalling.org.uk (http://www.derby-signalling.org.uk)

Chris
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 23, 2014, 09:12:49 am
I see that you have not yet added the platform ends and wondered if it was because Kato do not make the sloping platform ends that the UK has :( ? I am seeing more and more platform ends with steps as platforms as lengthened to accommodate  longer trains - so the Kato platform ends with steps may not be so out of place in UK layouts.

Actually, the platform ends are in place in the photos, they're the Japanese non-sloping ones Kato supply, but without the details fitted as yet which might be why you didn't recognise them.

When I started sticking bits of station into the fiddle yard (to give it another dimension from a camera car point of view) it was more of a whim than anything else.  It's grown a bit since then ( :-[ ) but is still mainly supposed to be a Japanese station at heart even if it doesn't look too out of place with UK stock.  The layout is more Quinntopia than prototypical 8)

Having said that,  I did buy a pile of Kato station parts from Etched Pixels of this parish and some of those are earmarked for kit-bashing into sloping ends which should easily clip into place when the urge is upon me :beers:

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: redtrain on May 23, 2014, 06:22:00 pm


When I started sticking bits of station into the fiddle yard (to give it another dimension from a camera car point of view) it was more of a whim than anything else.  It's grown a bit since then ( :-[ ) 


Funny how that often seems to happen.  :)

Marcus
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Guy on May 23, 2014, 09:31:52 pm
Have just looked through the whole thread. Really impressive. I do like your wagon view videos, great perspective. Looking forward to seeing more.  :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 24, 2014, 09:32:37 am
I do like your wagon view videos, great perspective. Looking forward to seeing more.  :)

Thanks, Guy.

Status update: Much of the layout is currently covered with newspaper (Telford Journal, for trivia fans) as I'm painting more of the roof timbers next to the layout matt black.  I'm hoping this will draw the eye away from the amount of bare wood visible in the videos :thumbsup:

Guess I'll need to send the CamTruck round to find out :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 25, 2014, 09:56:14 pm

Little progress today as we had my parents over, but a bit more timber has been painted black!

Of more interest, even if it's not strictly 'layout', is a new 10 car Kato Series 103 EMU in Chou Line orange livery I received today.  (In the foreground is my existing Series 201)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 27, 2014, 07:54:43 pm

Todayís progress.  A Kato 62mm double track section chopped to give a 29mm/62mm combination.  This forces an additional 33mm between the two tracks once they've curved 90 degrees to the left, giving exactly enough room to fit a platform between them.

This can, of course, be done without recourse to the hacksaw (wooden sleepered 29mm and 62mm lengths are available to buy) but I wanted a continuous run of concrete sleepered track at this point.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Pengi on May 28, 2014, 07:03:27 am
What a great idea - and it looks very neat too :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 30, 2014, 03:19:54 pm
Lots of little jobs with the soldering iron crossed off the list this week.


One such job was soldering together home-made power feeds in the time-honoured fashion using Kato Unijoiners.


The trick is to make sure the wire has been threaded through the plastic moulding BEFORE making the joint with the fishplate.  I only got this wrong twice today, something of a personal best  :-[
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: mika on May 30, 2014, 07:39:06 pm
I only got this wrong twice today, something of a personal best  :-[

 :laughabovepost:

Power feeds are looking good, Steve.

Cheers
Michael
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on May 30, 2014, 08:30:22 pm
Is it National Confession Day today? ???
In the last Ĺ hour I've read 3 posts all fessing up to something.
Thanks, though. If we can't learn from our own mistakes we can learn from others :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: B00MH34DSPL4T on May 30, 2014, 09:45:51 pm
[url]http://youtu.be/Fhqg7adEBJw[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/Fhqg7adEBJw[/url])

Testing the lengths of various trains and how they fit in the fiddle yard.  Being relatively new to N I don't have a 'feel' for this like I did in 4mm.  For a start, trains take up a little more space than I estimated because of the size of those infernal Rapido couplings.


Am I the only one that see's every single one of those waggons as a £5 driving by? The sheer scale and level of commitment here is incredible!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 30, 2014, 10:57:59 pm
Am I the only one that see's every single one of those waggons as a £5 driving by?

:laughabovepost:

Similarly, every time I see a video of someone's new loco I see it as a dozen wagons driving by :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: B00MH34DSPL4T on May 31, 2014, 01:33:06 am
Am I the only one that see's every single one of those waggons as a £5 driving by?

:laughabovepost:

Similarly, every time I see a video of someone's new loco I see it as a dozen wagons driving by :D

It puts my one loco and five wagons to shame, but hey ho... I better get saving up. Then I can have SIX wagons!  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 31, 2014, 06:02:23 pm


Layout Update #8 - Track hacks and running-in.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 03, 2014, 11:07:59 am


A recent addition to the layout, a Greenmax 'Apartment Building Type B' from PlazaJapan (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121354236900 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121354236900))

Not a kit, but a ready-built plastic model apart from a few roof details that I've not added yet.  A great model for the money and a worthy companion to my similar Aoshima kit-built block seen lurking in the background in the second photo.

They're broadly the same size, the Greenmax being slightly longer and a little narrower.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 04, 2014, 04:49:28 pm



Another of this weekís new plonkíníplay buildings, Tomixís ĎRailroad Officeí (part number 4025)

Unlike most other buildings Iíve got, I donít have anything particular in mind for this one - I just liked the look of it.

From PlazaJapan again: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121293308006 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121293308006)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: wookie on June 04, 2014, 07:23:37 pm
Makes you wonder how such nice ready built buildings can be at that price, when we pay through the nose for UK ones  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: mika on June 05, 2014, 09:24:50 am
Nice building, Steve.
Thanks for the link to plazajapan's ebay shop. Had a look araund and they do have nice things at reasonable prices. I guess most of their things could be anglicised... :-[

Cheers
Michael
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 05, 2014, 07:20:15 pm
Makes you wonder how such nice ready built buildings can be at that price, when we pay through the nose for UK ones  :veryangry:

Because there are few UK N gauge modellers and Japan is N focussed and train crazy. Plastic moulding is like bad heavy metal - volume is all that seems to matter  :D

Alan


Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 05, 2014, 08:42:29 pm
Japan is N focussed and train crazy.


And talking of train crazy, how many photographers can you spot in this short clip?   :goggleeyes:

http://youtu.be/EUfDPJnhbaU (http://youtu.be/EUfDPJnhbaU)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: D1059 on June 05, 2014, 11:13:41 pm
Japan is N focussed and train crazy.


And talking of train crazy, how many photographers can you spot in this short clip?   :goggleeyes:

[url]http://youtu.be/EUfDPJnhbaU[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/EUfDPJnhbaU[/url])


Too many to count.  Any idea what the occasion was ?

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 06, 2014, 06:49:14 am
Too many to count.  Any idea what the occasion was ?

Last run of the 6000 series EMUs
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 07, 2014, 10:06:55 am


The last of the new buildings from this weekís PlazaJapan parcel.  The Tomix Office Building in beige, part number 4018
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360934086904 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360934086904)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Pengi on June 07, 2014, 10:46:41 am
Nice building and a good price when compared to Kato
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: wookie on June 07, 2014, 04:48:40 pm
Very impressive.....makes a Japanese themed railway very tempting  :laugh3:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 08, 2014, 12:25:48 pm

For the last few days I've been doing boring timber and electrical things, interspersed with occasional bouts of spraying Woodland Scenics foamy bits and glue around.

I'm enjoying the scenic side hugely, but I'm running out of the materials I've got left from the 1980s.  As I cunningly didn't label the containers the various products were stored in, this will mean replenishing stocks will be challenging ;)

The nails, by the way, are sitting in the holes where trees live - so I don't lose them!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on June 08, 2014, 01:50:07 pm
... I'm running out of the materials I've got left from the 1980s...
Time for me to restock the Woodland Scenics carousel!

The nails, by the way, are sitting in the holes where trees live - so I don't lose them!
I keep my nails in jars and packets - far easier. :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: railwaylacky on June 08, 2014, 02:15:11 pm
good idea on the nails, rather than trying to get the bloody things to stand up with a blob of glue, I shall try this  :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 10, 2014, 09:55:24 am
I keep my nails in jars and packets - far easier. :D

I tried that once, but it made HUGE holes in the scenery :dunce:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 10, 2014, 09:57:00 am

New arrival yesterday from Keith at TrainTrax - the Kato E259 Narita Express.

The full 6 car EMU is made up from two Kato sets: 10-847 and 10-848


There's normally a bridge across this area, but it's been temporarily removed while I work on the scenery and woodwork - also makes photography of multiple units easier 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on June 10, 2014, 10:06:59 am
I keep my nails in jars and packets - far easier. :D

I tried that once, but it made HUGE holes in the scenery :dunce:

 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 11, 2014, 03:39:01 pm

To much fanfare (well, the wheeze of a DMU) the first signal on the layout has broken cover.

Ordered yesterday from http://www.crsignals.com/ (http://www.crsignals.com/), arrived this morning (top marks!) and connected up this afternoon.

I've wired the signal to work in parallel with Lenz's asymmetric DCC feature, so if the signal is set to red the train is automatically slowed to a stop.  If the signal is cleared the train will accelerate away once more.

NOTE: this only works if the decoder in the train supports this feature (I use Lenz and Zimo) but is dirt cheap, only needing 5 diodes wiring into the feed to the right-hand rail in front of the signal.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 14, 2014, 09:41:47 am
A couple of Lenz Silver Minis and some bags of Woodland Sprinkles arrived this morning - should keep me out of mischief this weekend.

Ordered late yesterday afternoon from Modelscape, thanks for the prompt service Mr Morton! :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 16, 2014, 11:09:03 am

Work proceeds on the scenery.  Not as much done as I'd hoped due to the hot weather and visitors, but the area to the right of the black timber is new (waste expanded polystyrene again) as is some of the vegetation to the left.  Woodland Scenics 'burnt grass' colour turf from Modelscape, mainly, with various coarser bits'n'bushes added to break it up.

Also pictured is a rake of 16 Kato TAKI 1000 tank cars recently received from TrainTrax a pair of 10-1167 8-car boxes in fact.  At last, a reason to get the Japanese locos off the shelf and onto the layout!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 16, 2014, 08:40:38 pm
As a break from scenery (much as Iím loving it!) today Iíve made an effort to get some Japanese stock converted to DCC.  Up to now all far eastern operations have been confined to the DC test-circuit, which is limiting in the extreme :thumbsdown:


First up was the powered car from Katoís E257 EMU set.  An easy conversion, with just a few points to note:

1 Although not visible in the photo, the tags onto which the orange and grey wires are soldered MUST be insulated from the main pick-up strips.  I use see-through plastic bits cut from blister packaging. A quick snip around a suitable right angle bend will give you a nice L-shape piece that fits perfectly in place between the two previously connected contacts.

2 Iíve widened the doorway in a bulkhead to let the wires run lengthwise.  There is in fact enough room to fit the decoder crosswise without doing this should you wish.

3 The white wire is just hanging loose and not connected to anything, particularly NOT the same brass contact as the orange wire!  I didnít notice this when taking the photo :-[

4 Although not needed for a basic conversion, the blue and yellow wires are waving around pre-tinned becauseÖ


I wanted to try out an optional extra, the Kato 11-211 LED interior lighting unit.  Iím not sure if I want (or can afford) to use these fleet-wide, but thought Iíd try one.  Just to see what the lights look like through the tinted windows and how much they show up the assorted wires from the decoder, you understand ::)

I discarded the brass strips Kato provide to take power from the track as I wanted to be able to switch the lights on and off via the DCC decoder.  So I soldered the blue and yellow wires directly to the lighting unit's contacts.  It doesnít matter which way round they go, and I could have used the white wire instead of the yellow.

Now Iíll live with it for a few weeks, then make my mind up about interior lighting :hmmm:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 20, 2014, 04:09:10 pm


Cab ride #7, YouTube permitting!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on June 20, 2014, 04:24:52 pm
I always enjoy the cab rides, even if this one was a 'stealth' version (no sound) :D
Good to see the gantries for the OLE are proliferating too :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: jonclox on June 20, 2014, 04:29:25 pm
[url]http://youtu.be/qKfI2uCKQhc[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/qKfI2uCKQhc[/url])

Cab ride #7, YouTube permitting!

A great little ride  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 20, 2014, 07:10:18 pm
even if this one was a 'stealth' version (no sound) :D

In this case I felt obliged to remove the sound due to helicopters, bin lorries, barking dogs, etc.  Oh, and the sound of my good self calmly speculating as to the parentage of those concerned >:(
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 27, 2014, 10:25:19 pm

Reed switches are being installed under some of the Kato points.  The sliding magnets in the Kato point mechanism make/break the contact in the reed switch giving an on/off signal that can be used by DCC systems, TTL circuits, panel indicators, etc.

After fiddling around trying to find the best place to locate the switch under the points (I've now made a clear plastic jig) it all seems to work! :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 04, 2014, 05:36:44 pm

More reed switches have been installed, this one has just gone under a Kato double crossover.  As all point blades on these fire together (in theory!) one reed switch is sufficient, although 4 could be used if you're a belt'n'braces kind of person.

See also Colin's thread: http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=22362.msg230935#msg230935 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=22362.msg230935#msg230935)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 05, 2014, 08:52:04 am

Work in progress on a Tomytec house.  Tomytec's Set B contains two of these little clip together plastic kits, but this one's being glued and having some black plasticard added to prevent the whole building glowing like a lava lamp once LEDs are installed.

Only what I assume is a stairwell is being illuminated on this one, the black area with the tall thin windows.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on July 05, 2014, 07:41:42 pm
I recognise my cell on the ground floor! :laugh3:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 10, 2014, 09:39:38 am

Over the last week I've fitted more reed switches, added wiring and glued track down in areas where I'm happy with everything.  None of this makes for particularly exciting updates, yet alone photos or videos!

But by way of a change, this Kato 23-439 corporate office buiding arrived yesterday - the usual quick turnaround from Keith at Traintrax.  Ultimately this will have lighty-bits and stuff fitted, but for now it'll be plonked down with it's contemporaries to bulk out the city scene 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 12, 2014, 05:27:33 pm

A strenuous session clipping together a couple of Tomytec houses this afternoon.  This is set B2, a pair of houses for the princely sum of £5.91 :beers:



Apart from being dirt cheap, the thing that appeals to me most is the clip-fit pre-painted nature.  The two assembled buildings took me well under 10 minutes and can be dumped onto the layout immediately.  In the future, they can be taken apart easily for further detailing and lighting.  What's not to like? :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 12, 2014, 06:22:20 pm
Some of the Tomytec figures are rather good, too. I have Tomytec 015 N Figures - Night Under Way, a couple of which, looking rather the worse for wear, will appear on Cant Cove station waiting for the last train of the day on Friday and Saturday evenings, the 22:43 ex-Wadebridge, the 22.50 a / 22.52 d for Penmayne, terminates there at 22.56, after they have enjoyed a few Castle Ales in the "Tramway Inn" followed by a nightcap in the "Station Hotel" opposite!

I also have Tomytec 002 N 6 Black Bulls Figures which are much better than the usual N Scale animals.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 12, 2014, 07:12:31 pm
Some of the Tomytec figures are rather good, too. I have Tomytec 015 N Figures - Night Under Way, a couple of which, looking rather the worse for wear


Blimey, I've got those!  3 sets for £6.90 from PlazaJapan and I could see quite a lot of uses for them.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360978543645 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360978543645)

I'm aiming to try and sever at least one of the drunken pairs to make a strap-hanger or two for EMU interiors.  Whether that will actually work with such tiny figures is another matter...
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 12, 2014, 07:31:54 pm
Yes, PlazaJapan is very good. :claphappy:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 18, 2014, 12:49:13 pm

Kato Office Building, Brick (23-431A) - an arrival this week from http://www.traintrax.co.uk (http://www.traintrax.co.uk)
Although a Japanese prototype, it has a very generic appearance easily suitable for British high streets or town centres.



The floors come apart like large Lego bricks, I've made a start on painting the interior as it's quite visible through the large windows.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 19, 2014, 07:41:46 am

Kato Taxi Station Gray (23-456B) - another building acquired this week from http://www.traintrax.co.uk (http://www.traintrax.co.uk)



Very anglicisable, it even comes with a blank replacement part for the Japanese sign at the front  8)



I bought this to chop in half along the apex of the lower roof, thus making two low relief structures :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Pengi on July 19, 2014, 08:13:17 am
For the upper floors on the office building which Kato leaev empty, I have found that copying generic office scenes from the internet (copyright free - of course  :angel:), scaling them and using them as 'walls' in the buildings can work quite well - especially if you add some peeps to give depth. Saves a lot of interior modelling.

Linkto my attempts (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=9242.msg166570#msg166570)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 19, 2014, 03:15:34 pm
scaling them and using them as 'walls' in the buildings can work quite well - especially if you add some peeps to give depth. Saves a lot of interior modelling.

I shall definitely be doing some of that 8)  Having admired your results along with Quinntopia I think that's definitely the way to go.  Unless I live to be 200, in which case there'll be none of this cheating ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 24, 2014, 09:50:02 am

... and more buildings!

In the post today were a couple of Tomix small offices, codes 4043 and 4042.  Shooting into the light with an iPad is not a recipe for a good image, but the snap shows the empty and translucent nature of these structures well.  They really do need interior detailing asap, but at £5.34 & £4.28 are very economic places to start :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: trainsdownunder on July 24, 2014, 01:39:46 pm
We have this Ebay seller in Oz doing Asian style buildings. Seem reasonable. Don't know if there is a UK supplier though. Will enquire as they cover a fair range

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MODEL-TRAIN-LAYOUT-DOWNTOWN-BUILDING-GREY-BUSINESS-OFFICE-HOUSE-SCALE-N-1-160-/191259059588 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MODEL-TRAIN-LAYOUT-DOWNTOWN-BUILDING-GREY-BUSINESS-OFFICE-HOUSE-SCALE-N-1-160-/191259059588)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 24, 2014, 10:02:04 pm
We have this Ebay seller in Oz doing Asian style buildings.

Thanks, there're some interesting subjects in the range 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: trainsdownunder on July 24, 2014, 11:03:28 pm
Quote
We have this Ebay seller in Oz doing Asian style buildings.
I get free postage on stuff in Australia from Outland Models US, but they say Europe is excluded on the shipping. I guess the items are "flat packed" kits so happy to arrange posting on if anything required. If we keep it within Large letter size under 500g costs around $3 AUD to send.

Interestingly they have a US store but they only ship within the US, Mexico and Canada - However I do have contacts in the US to get round that one.

To see the different stores visit their Ebay shop and select which country from the Categories list on the left hand side. The Aussie seller has far more items than the US one
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 04, 2014, 08:31:26 pm
Just glued down a new Kato double crossover in the station throat, after redoing the reed switches for the umpteenth time.  Seems like no matter how many times I check the things are aligned correctly I don't get the correct indications when I return after the glue has set :very angry:

It's very hot in the loft of late, and I guess that's made me a little too impatient...
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 06, 2014, 01:10:44 pm

Through running is restored, after a period of track-gluing and wiring.  Having arrived at a station throat formation I was happy with, the Kato track has been glued into it's final position with all blocks, feeders and reed switches in place.

All points visible in the photo have had their little black manual switches sliced away and are electric-only operation from now on.  I've yet to cover the resultant holes, but that's on this afternoon's do-list.

Also, I've replaced a couple of the 20-051 / 20-052 "Double Track Widening Sections" with plain line cut/flexed to shape as the originals were a little too much like Scalextric chicanes for my liking.  The two replaced areas are still work in progress (hence the weights, etc) but for comparison, one original section remains in place where the green tanker train bends in the middle.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 07, 2014, 08:47:00 pm

The sum total of today's train set time.  One Lenz Silver Mini DCC decoder fitted to the power car of the Kato E2 set.  Although a soldering job, it's an easy-peasy one.  Only wrinkle is to insulate the two brass strips on either side - there's a sliver of clear plastic doing just that by the blue paintbrush handle, although it's not easy to see.

I haven't done the lights in the driving cars yet - no suitable decoders to hand!

Excellent runner without tweaking any CVs, although I'm in a quandary about what DCC address to give it.  2 on it's own seems insubstantial.  I gave it 142 to be going on with, 14 being the decimal equivalent of E in hexadecimal.  Something better will come to me, I'm sure :-[
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 08, 2014, 11:44:12 am

A closer view of the DCC connections on the Kato E2.  The clear plastic insulator is more clearly visible where the orange wire is soldered.

Also, the nylon clip has been replaced and the spare wires (white, yellow and blue) shrouded in a loose-fitting length of heat-shrink tubing - unshrunk!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 16, 2014, 05:32:13 pm


I havenít done an update video for a while, so here's one :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: ScottyStitch on August 16, 2014, 05:47:37 pm
Great looking layout, looks like a lot of track.

Really liked the video, what was it shot on please?
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: ScottyStitch on August 16, 2014, 05:49:40 pm
is there a track plan somewhere please and thank you?
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 16, 2014, 05:54:36 pm
Really liked the video, what was it shot on please?

Just my iPad.


Is there a track plan somewhere please and thank you?

Only in my head, I'm afraid.  I did start one on the computer but it wasn't as much fun as the real thing ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: SD35 on August 16, 2014, 06:29:02 pm
Looks great Steve.  The long uniform trains on the S curve is very pleasing on the eye. 
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: mika on August 16, 2014, 07:56:15 pm
Wonderful video Steve. :thankyousign:
Your prototypical rakes look great on the loong sweeping track. :drool:

Michael
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on August 16, 2014, 09:15:58 pm
Hope the prang wasn't too costly :goggleeyes:
I know I refer to UK DMU/DEMU/EMU's as multi coloured worms but you definitely have a set of snakes running there :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bluebottle on August 16, 2014, 10:24:38 pm
Hi Steve,

  Very interesting Video, well up to standard, most entertaining!, really enjoyed that, now, with the hot weather we have had of late, does it get hot in your attic and if so, do you get any rail creep?, I've left a little gap in my joints as my track expands during the summer in the garage, not by a lot but enough to squeeze a couple of insulated joints!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Pengi on August 17, 2014, 07:15:43 am
Wonderful video, layout and lovely trains  :claphappy: Just love to see them sashaying through the S curves. :envy:

Kato bullets are so easy to put back on the track when they have derailled

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 17, 2014, 09:03:26 am
Hope the prang wasn't too costly :goggleeyes:

If you ignore the swear-box, it was entirely cost free ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 17, 2014, 09:09:39 am
does it get hot in your attic and if so, do you get any rail creep?

It's been very hot of late.  I've not been expecting any expansion problems with the Kato Unitrack due to it's nature, but have had one instance of kinking with some of the Peco code 55.

Given that I've had loft layouts for the last 40 years and thought I knew all about expansion gaps :-[ I'm wondering if the latter is down to the code 55's greater resistance to slide in the chairs?  Perhaps compounded by capillary action getting glue where it shouldn't be?

Or maybe it's just the latest thing I've mucked up :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ben A on August 17, 2014, 10:35:29 am

With the exception of the bullet car at the NRM I've never seen a real Japanese train in my life but the Kato stuff just oozes quality.

Great video, thanks for posting... And glad the toys didn't get broken!!

Cheers

Ben A. 
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on August 17, 2014, 10:45:20 am
does it get hot in your attic and if so, do you get any rail creep?

It's been very hot of late.  I've not been expecting any expansion problems with the Kato Unitrack due to it's nature, but have had one instance of kinking with some of the Peco code 55.

Given that I've had loft layouts for the last 40 years and thought I knew all about expansion gaps :-[ I'm wondering if the latter is down to the code 55's greater resistance to slide in the chairs?  Perhaps compounded by capillary action getting glue where it shouldn't be?

Or maybe it's just the latest thing I've mucked up :D
Here in Australia we deal with large temperature differentials and expansion/ contraction can be a problem even in N scale, so yes,  it's worth looking at.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 17, 2014, 11:33:05 am
With the exception of the bullet car at the NRM I've never seen a real Japanese train in my life but the Kato stuff just oozes quality.

And they make great place-holders for Pendolinos ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ben A on August 17, 2014, 12:01:08 pm
With the exception of the bullet car at the NRM I've never seen a real Japanese train in my life but the Kato stuff just oozes quality.

And they make great place-holders for Pendolinos ;)

Ha - it did occur to me that the Narita Express livery is not far off -just missing yellow ends and the zebra crossing doors!!!

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 21, 2014, 10:11:51 am


My first real attempt at filming from a pace train.  A bit rough and ready, but the Kato E5 looks good :thumbsup:

(Filmed with a Branor Systems CamTruck)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: wookie on August 21, 2014, 11:42:30 am
That really is a beautiful train!

I've been given the job of rebuilding a Japanese layout that was donated to our club, but which had to be broken up to get it out of his house, so I will probably be picking your brains at some point!  :D Lots of shops with Japanese signs that I don't understand hahahahaa
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: scotsoft on August 21, 2014, 11:53:18 am
I enjoyed your video very much, I have tried doing what you have and it is not easy to get it just right but I think you have done an excellent job there  :thumbsup:

It certainly shows off the E5 very well with some really great video of it negotiating curves  :claphappy:

Thank you for posting it  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Geoff on August 21, 2014, 12:14:24 pm
Nice work Steve, and how many metre's of track have you laid down, seems to me you are having a whale of a time setting it all up and running.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on August 21, 2014, 03:22:24 pm
Top Gear, eat your heart out :P
Most unusual aspect and great to see the E5 slithering its way round :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on August 22, 2014, 02:07:43 am
Awesome!!

The E5 sorta puts my Blue Pullman to shame...

WHAT AM I SAYING!!! :headbutt: :headbutt: :zippedmouth:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 22, 2014, 08:06:16 am
The E5 sorta puts my Blue Pullman to shame...

WHAT AM I SAYING!!! :headbutt: :headbutt: :zippedmouth:

Too late, we have witnesses! :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Sprintex on August 22, 2014, 08:07:44 am
Awesome!!

The E5 sorta puts my Blue Pullman to shame...

WHAT AM I SAYING!!! :headbutt: :headbutt: :zippedmouth:

Too much 'celebrating' methinks, your judgement is obviously clouded ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 22, 2014, 08:09:11 am
I have tried doing what you have and it is not easy to get it just right

Tell me about it.  3 hours work to get 1 minute and 40 seconds of passable video :doh:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 22, 2014, 08:12:17 am
and how many metre's of track have you laid down

I must work it out one day, but as the layout is currently 23 feet by 10 a circuit must be around 66 feet or 20 meters.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on August 22, 2014, 08:14:40 am
Tut: time to make vid:

Worth it. Brilliant video. :thumbsup:

Sprintex:

Thank you for bringing me back to reality. The celebrations obviously took over. Whatever was I thinking.  :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: scotsoft on August 22, 2014, 11:55:48 am
Awesome!!

The E5 sorta puts my Blue Pullman to shame...

WHAT AM I SAYING!!! :headbutt: :headbutt: :zippedmouth:

First senior moment of your 63rd year perhaps  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on August 22, 2014, 12:38:09 pm
Hey Steve.... there are some seriously funny people on this forum, eh.  I mean, seriously. Er...  :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 23, 2014, 08:50:43 am

Yesterdayís work on the layout, electrickles!

Insulated Unijoiners fitted at 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
Power feeds soldered to Unijoiners fitted at A, B, C, D, E and F.
This means power is always on and independent for the two main lines  and two loops here, regardless of point settings.  DCC lighting, etc, will thus be controllable at all times and trains will show up on the Ďradarí detection-wise.

The two left-most main lines have not been so treated as yet because Iím still testing the Kato Y point pictured.  It doesnít belong at this spot according to the master plan but I wanted to evaluate the spring-loaded feature of the point blades.  Very impressed with the reliability of this, I can back a train of 40 short-wheelbase wagons over the wrongly set blades with 100% reliability.

Iím planning to use a couple of these points with an automatic shuttle service elsewhere on the layout at a later date.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on August 23, 2014, 10:21:05 am
Cool!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 25, 2014, 06:02:17 pm


Crikey, it's two months since my last cab ride video!  Here's one with the Farish J39 getting a run out on a train of empties.

Filmed during the testing of a new fourth track out under the eaves.  Needs some adjustments for alignment, but it's certainly working OK.  Also, the train is departing from a new storage yard commissioned yesterday as I was rapidly running out of siding space.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on August 25, 2014, 07:18:50 pm
Nice vid.

Really smooth trackwork. :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on August 25, 2014, 09:18:25 pm
Another cracking cab ride :thumbsup:
 :thankyousign:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on August 26, 2014, 02:47:13 am
As Mick says, another great cab ride - and British, too this time. I love the green DMU scuttling around there.... but where's the BP?  :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Pengi on August 27, 2014, 07:00:02 am
Terrific video - so smooth!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 12, 2014, 04:40:58 pm

Much work on the less than glamorous undergubbins of late.  This is a small control panel for a set of loops and the main line.  Cobbled together using some robust plastic from an old 3.5" disc box (there's life in old floppies yet!) it provides a socket for a Lenz DCC handset and four switches to control the signals and power to the four lines.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 20, 2014, 05:00:53 pm

Tracklaying on the scenic part of the railway.  Here I've cut some Kato concrete slab track so I can curve it, the radius is just under 48 inches here and has a proper transition curve before it.  I've used some Timber Tracks laser cut templates (from C&L Finescale) to help with alignment, they're actually P4 but the gauge doesn't matter if you're only using the edge.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 09, 2014, 11:06:50 am
Postie just delivered a pair of 4 aspect signals from CR Signals.

Being a prepared sort of boy scout, yesterday I installed all the wiring, switches, section breaks, etc, and tested all trains stopped by where the signals would go and tidied everything up - I'm using asymmetric DCC in conjunction with constant braking distance for a degree of (semi) automation here.

This morning I find I didn't actually drill any holes for the signals :veryangry:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 11, 2014, 06:10:28 pm

The Hornby/Arnold 5-BEL is definitely my favourite toy at the moment.
Would have been better still without the sole bar cutouts, traction tyre and coupling gaps, but already I'm wondering if 5 cars is really enough :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 18, 2014, 02:45:22 pm
Most of the last week's modelling time has been spent trying to trace an annoying short  :veryangry:

As my wiring is normally careful and methodical (if not actually tidy!) I don't normally have many problems, but this was a swine to fix.

My own fault, lazily piggy-backing the wiring for the N gauge layout on top of the old OO wiring.  All those dangling bare ends were an accident waiting to happen :-[

On the plus side, having ripped most of the old stuff out to fix the short I now have enough wire on the loft floor to last me a lifetime 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ditape on October 18, 2014, 03:00:13 pm
Been there, done that, got the tee shirt and the baseball cap. :'( :dunce: I won't be doing that again, all fresh wiring from now on, I have learned my lesson.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 19, 2016, 09:10:17 am
In the middle of a protracted house move process here, might just be coming to an end - touch wood :worried:

Model railway has been safely packed away for what must be getting on for the best part of two years now, so three cheers for Unitrack if not buyers and estate agents!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 19, 2016, 09:48:56 am
Thanks for the update, Steve. I really hope all will go well for you and quickly so that you can resume work on your layout.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on August 19, 2016, 12:51:28 pm
Good to hear from you again, Steve.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on August 19, 2016, 01:53:56 pm
Welcome back, buddy!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ben A on September 15, 2016, 11:10:30 pm

Good to see you back Steve.

Will the move have an impact on your plans for The Capital Lines?

Cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 06, 2017, 09:34:56 am
After 6 aborted house moves in the last year Iím not one for premature poultry enumeration, but seventh time lucky might see us in a new house soon.  Down payments have been made, solicitors activated and, The Goddess of Chains* permitting, we might be on our way early next month.

Itís a new build 3 storey and Iíve been allocated** the entire top floor as a man cave, which gives me a 23 feet by 14 feet train set space - bar a corner cut out for an en-suite which will end up being a somewhat over-specified paint-brush cleaning facility.

So The Capital Lines could be rising from the packaging real soon now :beers:


* Premium rate number
** I didnít even need to ask, which makes me deeply suspicious!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on May 06, 2017, 10:54:35 am
** I didnít even need to ask, which makes me deeply suspicious!
Be afraid.

Be very afraid!

Good news, finally, Steve.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 06, 2017, 11:03:53 am
I do hope that everything goes well, Steve, as it should give you space for a very impressive layout.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on May 06, 2017, 01:15:42 pm
Hope everything pans out for you, Steve, and I eagerly await the next cab ride ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ben A on May 06, 2017, 01:34:41 pm

Hi Steve,

Glad to hear things look like they're getting back on track (groan!) and the train room sounds great.

Cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Innovationgame on May 06, 2017, 01:53:33 pm
That sounds like a seriously decent space for an n gauge layout!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 07, 2017, 08:02:24 am
Be afraid.

Be very afraid!

Indeed.  There'll be the sound of bricklaying from the stairwell and I'll fade quietly from the electoral register  :worried:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 09, 2017, 12:20:53 am
 :hellosign: Hope all goes well Steve, look forward to more updates
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 07, 2017, 08:08:51 pm
Yay!  In spite of the best efforts of assorted solicitors we're actually moving house tomorrow.  :beers:

Who knows when we'll get broadband piped in (new development) but I've got plenty of layout planning to keep me busy 8)

I've got wood already...
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on June 07, 2017, 08:39:50 pm
That's great news, Steve.
I hope your wood is straight and true
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on June 07, 2017, 09:16:45 pm
About time too.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: 25901JFM on June 08, 2017, 05:09:27 pm
Good luck with the move.  When we moved in to our new build we had a 6 month wait for our phone line and broadband.  I hope the development you are moving to is a bit more organised than ours was!
I'm less organised than that, 2.5 years in an I've still not started on a layout!

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Milton Rail on June 08, 2017, 07:40:08 pm
Great news, hope the top floor does not become the storage cave in the early part of the moving in process! 

Look forward to seeing that great space put to good use!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 11, 2017, 07:36:53 pm
And here I am in our new house. No broadband as yet, not even a phone line. Train room looks great, though, even if it is currently full of boxes.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on June 11, 2017, 08:17:04 pm
Glad you're in, Steve.
Let the fun begin :claphappy:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: port perran on June 11, 2017, 08:20:35 pm
Don't worry about the furniture. Get the train room up and running first.  :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2017, 08:36:58 pm
Many congratulations, Steve. Now, you can start laying out real N Gauge track and points and moving them around until you're quite happy you've got everything how you want it. Much better than using a scale plan! 8-)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: chrispearce on June 12, 2017, 11:32:45 pm
Many congratulations, Steve. Now, you can start laying out real N Gauge track and points and moving them around until you're quite happy you've got everything how you want it. Much better than using a scale plan! 8-)

Many thanks for that remark! That is EXACTLY what I have been doing. I relate much better to placing points on my laminate living room floor and measuring the space they take up with curves etc. I thought I was just being batty and assumed everyone else used PCs and track planning software.

Now I feel greatly encouraged!  :bounce:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: pape_timmo on June 15, 2017, 10:17:31 am
I've only just read and watched this thread from the very start, and I'm amazed at what you had running. Brilliant layout and videos.

Glad the house move has gone well, and really look forward to seeing updates on the new layout.

I moved in with my wife 2 and a half years ago, and got a cabin to build my layout in, but it is still full of other stuff. I wish I had your willpower to get on with mine.

Cheers, Timmo
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: railsquid on June 16, 2017, 04:27:20 am
Many congratulations, Steve. Now, you can start laying out real N Gauge track and points and moving them around until you're quite happy you've got everything how you want it. Much better than using a scale plan! 8-)

Many thanks for that remark! That is EXACTLY what I have been doing. I relate much better to placing points on my laminate living room floor and measuring the space they take up with curves etc. I thought I was just being batty and assumed everyone else used PCs and track planning software.

Now I feel greatly encouraged!  :bounce:
Personally I sketch out the design on paper, transfer it to SCARM to sanity-check that the core lines fit and the gradients etc. are reasonably humane, then work out the detail as I lay the track out, as the diagram only gives a very limited idea how the plan works.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 16, 2017, 08:28:30 am
I did use a trackwork software planning program combined with a real-life trackplan of a Bude line station to plan out the track layout for Cant Cove but then, placed all the points in place and moved them around until I had what I thought was the optimum layout before cutting and fitting flexi track in place with those points.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: port perran on June 16, 2017, 12:57:47 pm
I never use track planning software.
I start off with a general idea in my head as to what I want to achieve -usually incorporating the scenery at the very beginning stage then I just play around with bits of track to see what looks good and what will fot where. I like to visialise the scenery in place first so that the railway fits into the landscape not the other way around.
I can't visualise a layout at all from a track plan I'm afraid but each to his or her own.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 17, 2017, 09:59:27 am
I also plan the scenery when I'm planning the track, on paper, but then adjust the scenery details once the track is actually in place.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 20, 2017, 12:25:03 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1490-200617114221.jpeg)

Things are settling down a little at the new layoutís new home, although the view from the kitchen window is still of a building site.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1490-200617114320.jpeg)

Having a three storey house was an obvious choice as the top floor gives me a ready converted loft as my eyrie.  No more twisting my knee climbing up loft ladders, no more extremes of temperature and itís already decorated and carpeted into the bargain.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1490-200617114400.jpeg)

Everything is still stacked high, but Iím getting there.  Should be cutting the first baseboard timbers in the next week or two if I can get enough books and things squirrelled away.  In the old loft the current heat would have ruled out any progress at all, so Iím already being more productive 8)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1490-200617114452.jpeg)

Ignoring the ĎBedroom 1í label (what were they thinking?) this is the L-shaped floorplan lifted straight from the developerís site.  The longest dimensions are 23í by 14í2Ē and the narrow bit of the L is 64Ē wide.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on June 20, 2017, 05:06:16 pm
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1490-200617114400.jpeg[/url])

Start the way you mean to go on!  ;D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 27, 2017, 07:30:12 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/1490-270617192557.jpeg)

Still sorting out the layout room so no boards in place as yet, but I have taken delivery of a couple of full brakes from the N Gauge Society.  Very nice :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bluebottle on June 27, 2017, 09:01:11 pm
Lovely to see you back young man!!!!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 20, 2017, 07:34:14 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/1490-200717192238.jpeg)

Hammery/bangy/sweary things have been going on and some basic (the only sort I do) woodwork is in place.  The main aim in the short term was to create some shelf space to get a lot of my rubbish off the floor and from under my feet.  The top left shelf is 8 feet above the floor, which gives plenty of room.

The framework screwed to the wall (there's more out of sight behind the book cases) will also support the layout, which will be the next step.  Unless I change my plans the staging/fiddle yard will be where the books are stacked on the right, about 6 inches above the top of the bookcases.  There will be a further scenic level above this later on, I'm going for a two level scheme.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on July 20, 2017, 08:37:07 pm
Very tidy indeed, although looking at the boxes on the left I don't envy you your diet :no:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 21, 2017, 08:49:52 am
looking at the boxes on the left I don't envy you your diet :no:

I'm getting to the age when 9 lives look increasingly attractive  :-[
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on July 21, 2017, 11:52:58 am
looking at the boxes on the left I don't envy you your diet :no:

I'm getting to the age when 9 lives look increasingly attractive  :-[

Nah, you'd just accumulate 9x the unfinished projects and would have an even bigger storage problem.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on July 21, 2017, 12:50:09 pm
A two level layout like Ted Polet's wonderful 009 opus?


Love the idea!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 14, 2017, 02:47:08 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1490-140817143903.jpeg)

Most of the supporting woodwork and shelving for stage one of the layout is now complete, apart from the actual baseboards and a backscene.  Temporary experiments for the staging yard throat can be seen, however, so mainline action can't be that far away! 8)

The main reason for the photo is I've just fitted some lights as this is a windowless corner of the playroom and can be a bit on the dark side.  I'm using some diffused LED fittings from ebay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LED-LINKABLE-KITCHEN-UNDER-CABINET-STRIP-LIGHTS-LINK-LIGHT-WARM-WHITE-SWITCHED-/311630279782 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LED-LINKABLE-KITCHEN-UNDER-CABINET-STRIP-LIGHTS-LINK-LIGHT-WARM-WHITE-SWITCHED-/311630279782)) - replaced the kitchen lighting with these at the old house and thought they'd be ideal for future railway use.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 15, 2017, 07:58:52 am
Real progress Steve, great stuff! Lighting looks good.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 18, 2017, 08:40:20 am
2.5 months after moving and the first train has run, albeit just a running-in turn for the Farish 4F I had for Christmas.  Temporary circuit of Kato track at the moment, but on real baseboards :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: weave on August 18, 2017, 08:47:18 am
Great news,

Looking forward to the progress.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 18, 2017, 10:33:28 am
Great news,

Looking forward to the progress.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Excellent news, Steve. Seconded!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on August 18, 2017, 10:49:25 am
2.5 months after moving and the first train has run, albeit just a running-in turn for the Farish 4F I had for Christmas.  Temporary circuit of Kato track at the moment, but on real baseboards :thumbsup:

Yeehah! Let the fun begin. :claphappy:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Innovationgame on August 18, 2017, 11:53:28 am
So - we look forward to real trains running soon.  :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 18, 2017, 03:31:44 pm
 :hellosign: Excellent news Steve, look forward to more updates   :thumbsup:
       regards Derek.
   
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 20, 2017, 07:32:15 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1490-200817192433.jpeg)

And the track-laying commences.  The baseboards in the photo are all fixed in place and now the track is going in with wires dropping through holes drilled where required.  The two points forming the crossover in the centre foreground have been trimmed to give a closer track spacing, but aren't fixed in place yet - hence the slight misalignment.  I'm waiting on delivery of some glue as mine had gone hard in the pot >:(

A couple of Tomix condominiums on the horizon give a hint of the urban environment planned.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 21, 2017, 10:03:03 pm
Great to see Steve, thanks for the updates
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Seahawk on August 22, 2017, 08:02:51 am
Hi Steve,

This is where you have been all this time! Quite a change from your previous empire at the other address! Funny how things change and in which direction! I must confess to having a fondness for Kato Unitrack.

N.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on August 22, 2017, 08:11:22 am
It's starting to take shape!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 22, 2017, 09:07:08 am
Quite a change from your previous empire at the other address!

The biggest change is perhaps that the new room will never be as pet-proof as the old loft was.

1CAT hasn't met 4CEP yet, but it's just a matter of time!  :worried:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on August 22, 2017, 10:02:47 am
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Seahawk on August 22, 2017, 10:05:53 am
 Power up some conductor rail and 4CEP will triumph!   :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: BoxTunnel on August 22, 2017, 10:23:18 am
Several options:

1) Close door with feline devil on the other side.
2) Install dog in railway room.
3) Shotgun, air rifle or well swung shovel.  The latter two make less noise.

Graham, always happy to help.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Innovationgame on August 22, 2017, 12:53:52 pm
I have a couple of squirrel traps that could be baited with kitty Kat.  Of course you'll have to let the cat out of the bag (sorry, trap) eventually, but you could take it well away from the train room before releasing it.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 25, 2017, 11:42:23 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1490-250817113133.jpeg)

A few mods to Kato number 6 turnouts I'm installing.  The diverging ends have been chopped off to bring tracks closer together, which loses the facility for attaching Unijoiners.  Just in case there's any rail creep in the future I've glued (Butanone) some black plasticard over the ends to act as insulation.  Roughly cut to size in the photo, it'll be trimmed to a better shape with a sharp knife once the glue has firmly set.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1490-250817113302.jpeg)

Also I've sliced off the levers for manual operation and boxed in the hole using black plasticard.  Again, this will be trimmed to shape with the trusty sharp knife once the glue has dried and will keep loose ballast and other scenic materials from gumming up the works as time goes on.

Sorry about the focussing errors, take my SLR away and I'm hopeless!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Innovationgame on August 25, 2017, 11:49:40 am
The focus looks OK to me.  Nice closeup of 6417 - much better than mine!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on August 25, 2017, 12:46:30 pm
Fabulous shot of the cat hair across the bunker of the pannier. My lovely cat is rarely allowed in the train room for that reason, but still his hairs creep in attach to me :doh:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Seahawk on August 25, 2017, 03:58:22 pm
Interesting combination of Japanese Bullet trains and 64xxs on your layout...

Got one of these?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/6268-250817155221-544882033.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/6268-250817155219-54487993.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/6268-250817155213-54486480.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/6268-250817155208-54483395.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 25, 2017, 07:28:13 pm
Got one of these?

Yes indeed - the little one not the mothership!  Distant ancestor of a DMU is the way I look at it, so it's Allowed ;)

Yours looks decidedly glossier then mine, have you got at it with an airbrush?
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Seahawk on August 26, 2017, 08:01:01 am
Shine from the studio lights...I dunno. A 64xx with one autotrailer on either side is going to be an expensive branch train.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Seahawk on August 26, 2017, 08:10:08 am
I must admit to being tempted with a conversion project for my N gauge Dudley Heath layout:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/6268-260817080814-54528484.jpeg)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/6268-260817080811-545271378.jpeg)

Now in preservation, that's a fine-looking beastie!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 26, 2017, 09:12:55 am
It would indeed make a fine model. B4 bogies are easy to obtain and there looks to b minimal bodywork alterations.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 26, 2017, 08:05:03 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1490-260817195947.jpeg)

As my old tin of contact adhesive had set hard I thought Iíd give Copydex a go - itís been recommended by a few folk on here.  I donít think Iíve used/sniffed any since junior school in the late 1960s!

For fixing the points in place I made sure the glue went everywhere (another thing from the late 1960s) to keep everything where it was supposed to be.  These form a key formation in the fiddle yard area from which everything else radiates and I was mindful of the lack of rigidity brought about by chopping off the Unijoiners.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1490-260817200120.jpeg)

Other less critical track has just been spot glued in place, which should make short term removal a little easier in the event of a calamity.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1490-260817200234.jpeg)

As this will be the centre road of three Iíve made sure everything was laid straight and firmly weighted in place.  Later tracks will be spaced using this as a baseline.

Note the filler between the sections of baseboard.  My woodwork remains as rudimentary as ever and Iím not aiming for a French polished finish, but as Iíve a railway room with a new fitted carpet for the first time in my life I wanted to make sure glue and scenic materials didnít drip through.  The floor in the old loft had a burnt grass puddle motif by the time Iíd finished with it.

Copydex works very well and Iím certainly pleased with it so far - thanks to those who suggested it.  And yes, I did remember to remove the rulers before the glue dried!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: dannyboy on August 26, 2017, 08:56:15 pm
A few mods to Kato number 6 turnouts I'm installing.  The diverging ends have been chopped off to bring tracks closer together, which loses the facility for attaching Unijoiners.  Just in case there's any rail creep in the future I've glued (Butanone) some black plasticard over the ends to act as insulation.

Also I've sliced off the levers for manual operation and boxed in the hole using black plasticard.

Interesting  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: RailGooner on August 26, 2017, 09:30:49 pm
..
 thought Iíd give Copydex a go ...  I donít think Iíve used/sniffed any since junior school in the late 1960s!
...

Nostalgia bottled. :D Hits me every time I open it up. :laugh3:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: weave on August 26, 2017, 10:07:40 pm
Hi,

You might know better but I've been told not to glue Kato points except on the outside but as you have, and you might know this too, if ever you need to lift them (and I know this from experience) be very, very careful as that metal plate will twist, come apart, warp etc. causing no end of trouble if the fiddly bits inside move.

Advice from a novice (still)

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 27, 2017, 09:08:35 am
You might know better but I've been told not to glue Kato points except on the outside but as you have, and you might know this too, if ever you need to lift them (and I know this from experience) be very, very careful as that metal plate will twist, come apart, warp etc. causing no end of trouble if the fiddly bits inside move.

Hi Weave,

Nothing wrong with the advice you were given at all. Iíve got a very mangled double crossover retrieved from my previous layout that can be directly attributed to my over enthusiastic use of contact adhesive! :o

However, for these three points in the middle of the throat, I wanted belts and braces even if it does mean they end up going in the bin should alterations be required in the future.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on August 27, 2017, 09:28:52 am
You both make good points (sorry!) here.

There are glues and glues.  Copydex is, in my experience, more forgiving if one later decides to take things apart, for instance, to replace a failed set of points.  I would be reluctant to use other glues on the underside and certainly would restrict them to a little fillet along the side of the Kato track and points.

Given the importance of the particular formation and Steve's brilliant alterations to the #6 points, I think that using Copydex was the optimum solution.

My preferred method of holding down 'Unitrack' in normal circumstances is Peco track pins with the track mounted on Sundeala which is, in turn, on top of ply, MDF or similar.

By the way, please don't think that Kato points make a habit of failing and needing to be replaced.  There are 30 #6 and one double crossover on the present, reduced, version of 'Sandrock'.  In six years' use, I have replaced one #6. 

Best wishes

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Pengi on August 28, 2017, 08:33:04 am
Copydex works great with foam baseboards. I have not glued or pinned my Kato track, instead using cork sheets to disguise part of the shoulder in parts of the track does a good job of securing the track and also allowing it to flex.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 28, 2017, 09:56:58 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1490-280817095459.jpeg)

Kato only do the super-elevated curves as double track, but singles are easy enough to make by cutting these down the middle.  I used a coping saw as I had it to hand, but there are plenty of other options.

I was careful to leave two of the raised ridges underneath each part - these support the track on the baseboard.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on August 28, 2017, 11:34:28 am
Very clever, Steve; very clever indeed.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 29, 2017, 10:18:40 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1490-290817101324.jpeg)

The final result of my Bank Holiday play time - the formation is fixed, wired and operational.

The red zones are isolated stopping sections where signals will be located.

Top to bottom the running lines are:
1) Down main
2) Bidirectional through
3) Up main
4) Up relief
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 29, 2017, 10:26:50 am
Excellent work. Time to run some 'testing' trains? 8-)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 29, 2017, 04:46:58 pm
Time to run some 'testing' trains?

Oh yes! :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 31, 2017, 09:16:41 am
An even bigger thumbs up for Copydex when fixing Unitrack down.  I've just removed a section where I wasn't happy with my alignment and it came up a treat.  Shove an X-Acto number 18 chisel blade under the edge and job done.

Why I wasn't using this stuff years ago I really don't know :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on August 31, 2017, 09:25:21 am
That's great, Steve.

I really like Copydex, although the smell is an acquired taste.  If it's safe for primary school children, it's, hopefully, safe for me!

It's PVA and 'superglue' that I don't like; I try to stick (sorry) to Copydex.

All the best.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on August 31, 2017, 10:59:47 am
But do remember that once it is opened it doesn't keep.

I have bottles of PVA that are years old and still good, but Copydex of a similar vintage was a load of sticky gunk and an eye-watering smell.  :worried:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 31, 2017, 01:51:01 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1490-310817134901.jpeg)

Right then, where am I going with all this?

The area in the photo is Phase 1 of the layout; Phase 2 will be off to the left and will consist of some return loops and additional siding space.

Phase 1 is all storage/fiddle yard, but with a scenic element as I liked the way this came together on the previous layout.  This time around Iím planning a much smaller station fronting a larger yard - inspired by the likes of Bescot and other OhMyGodItsFullOfTrack locations.

Trains will arrive from the bottom right of the photo on any of the three leftmost tracks.  After a suitable pause in the station theyíll continue into the distance and off to the left to make use of the return loops.

Trains returning from the loops will arrive where the Copydex pot is standing.  Passenger trains would then most likely run through either face of the rightmost platform, whilst freights would head into the storage yard proper where the tank wagons are sitting.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 01, 2017, 10:57:06 am
 :hellosign: Many thanks for the updates Steve, I like your thinking, looking good
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Seahawk on September 01, 2017, 06:38:26 pm
That's great, Steve.

I really like Copydex, although the smell is an acquired taste.  If it's safe for primary school children, it's, hopefully, safe for me!


Hmmm - based on Steve's experience, it should work with Peco track. I guess it will 'squeeze' up between the sleepers if one is not too careful.   :hmmm: :hmmm:

Should glue cork road bed down too...  :hmmm:

Anyway, it's Friday!  :claphappy: :beers:

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on September 01, 2017, 10:36:49 pm

Hmmm - based on Steve's experience, it should work with Peco track. I guess it will 'squeeze' up between the sleepers if one is not too careful.   :hmmm: :hmmm:

Should glue cork road bed down too...  :hmmm:

It will, it does and it does.

You do need to pin it in place whilst the glue sets though.

I use a big tub of push pins (from Staples) for the job.

(http://modelscape.net/layout/DSCF2967sml.jpg)

Sorry about the 'orribly over-sized point - it was the first photo I could find that shows the necessary.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 02, 2017, 10:25:13 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1490-020917101907.jpeg)

This weekend I'll be finishing off the tracklaying in the station throat area.  First up I've had to take the razor saw to some track to make the final piece of the jigsaw.  Next I'll be gluing the last few bits in place - did I mention I like Copydex?  :D

The whole formation will then have been glued down with wires dropping through holes and with the Kato manual point switches covered over.  Result!

At the moment I'm trying to do something on the layout everyday, no matter how small.  It soon mounts up.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on September 02, 2017, 11:26:25 am
At the moment I'm trying to do something on the layout everyday, no matter how small.  It soon mounts up.
As long as the cat isn't trying to do the same...
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 02, 2017, 02:36:50 pm
As long as the cat isn't trying to do the same...
Any such incursions and I'll be keeping a log :confused1:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Buffin on September 03, 2017, 12:07:22 am
Interested to see a couple of Kato city platform units in one of the pictures. Have you/others actually used them on a layout? What did you think of them?

Thinking of, er, investing in some.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 03, 2017, 09:56:19 am
Interested to see a couple of Kato city platform units in one of the pictures. Have you/others actually used them on a layout? What did you think of them?

I love 'em :thumbsup:

There's plenty of photos and videos earlier on this thread if you have a look, such as this one of the old layout before I moved house:

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on September 03, 2017, 10:53:46 am
Hugely impressive rake of mineral wagons behind the WD, Steve :goggleeyes:
As a dedicated counter, I lost count :doh:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on September 03, 2017, 11:04:47 am
Would BR really have put one brake van behind two diesels?

Hang on, yes, I guess.

Love the colours, love the era.  :thumbsup:

Great video, too! Very impressed with the professional subtitles, and scene changes!

Excellent!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Buffin on September 03, 2017, 11:26:10 am
Quote
There's plenty of photos and videos earlier on this thread if you have a look, such as this one of the old layout before I moved house

That's terrific, thank you. Everything I wanted to know!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Innovationgame on September 03, 2017, 11:44:00 am
Would BR really have put one brake van behind two diesels?
Yes, otherwise they would have been classified as 'Light Engine' with a speed restriction.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on September 03, 2017, 02:31:50 pm
Great video!  :thumbsup:

Nice looking Kato station system, too.

Dave G
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: port perran on September 03, 2017, 03:22:43 pm
What a very professional video.
And great smooth running too. I really like the peaks with single brakevan.
Great stuff.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on September 03, 2017, 06:43:53 pm
What a very professional video.
And great smooth running too. I really like the peaks with single brakevan.
Great stuff.

Seconded!

I'm going to have a couple of glasses of wine this evening and watch as many of the other videos as I can.  I'm fairly new to the Forum, so I missed them when originally published.

All the very best.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 04, 2017, 12:17:10 pm
Thanks for the kind comments about the videos, shows what can be achieved with everyday modern gizmos and bundled free software.  An iPad with iMovie Software in this case, but an Android tablet with Windows Movie Maker would be just as good.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1490-040917115941.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1490-040917120030.jpeg)

This morningís Kato butchery.  As the Kato ďApproachĒ curves provide only a transition from the superelevation point of view, and not in the actual curvature, I thought Iíd have a bash at making something closer to a proper transition.

One piece of 20-023 124mm Double Straight has had the base cut to let it flex and the lengths of the respective rails trimmed progressively using a Xuron track cutter and file.

The doctored 124mm has been soldered onto a 20-186 Approach Track so as to avoid any dog legs at the joint.  It just needs testing/gluing down now.

First time Iíve done a double track transition, a single track equivalent is a lot easier when it comes to getting the rail lengths right!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bluebottle on September 07, 2017, 12:16:24 am
Yep!, like it Steve, I was thinking along the same lines (awful pun) as you, looking good, so glad your back!!!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 07, 2017, 11:45:11 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1490-070917113222.jpeg)

Not a very productive week so far as we were supposed to have a bunch of tradesmen in to fix snagging issues on the house.  They were so useless and uncooperative we sent them away and raised yet another complaint with the developers, but at least it gives me an excuse for all the rubbish crammed into the man-cave!

The above is a 180 degree panorama of the layout room.  The layout itself is currently nestling in the alcove to the extreme left and has a temporary end board to give a continuous circuit for track testing.  If it looks like I've built a man-shed within the man-cave that's because it supports my home-made pseudo loft which stores much junk at the moment!

The layout will continue across the area where the DVDs and books are shelved/stacked and then round to the right where the HiFi, timber and yellow bags of expanded polystyrene currently live.  There's more beyond the red computer chair, but the iPad only seems to handle 180 degree views.

One of the dogs (Penny) can be seen on her bed in the centre foreground.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: weave on September 07, 2017, 12:41:38 pm
Hi Steve,

Sorry about your tradesmen woes (don't start a thread, no one will get anything done on their layouts and the site will overload!).

All looks tidy and organised (although that's where I go wrong as can't find anything).

Looking forward to the expansion.

Hey, Penny, border collie. I replied to you on my site about dogs in the train room that Sophie would be fine, she's a border collie. The others, unfortunately are not.

Cheers weave  :beers:


Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 07, 2017, 01:50:10 pm
I replied to you on my site about dogs in the train room that Sophie would be fine, she's a border collie. The others, unfortunately are not.

Our two collies can be a bit clumsy when they get boisterous.  Because of this I changed my design from using expanded polystyrene to thick chipboard for the lower level.  The theory is this has the mass to absorb a lot of the impact from exuberant  :goggleeyes: back ends!

If I get that far, the upper level will still be expanded polystyrene - a staple of many US multi-level layouts.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 08, 2017, 12:02:32 pm
Unhappy bunny: Soldering iron not working (Most jobs for the next few days involve soldering.)

Thinks: Buy replacement element!

Find: Connections for a new element are soldered  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Seahawk on September 09, 2017, 09:00:00 am
Buy new soldering iron and have a spare ready to solder the element connections next time! Yay! :laugh3:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 15, 2017, 10:53:38 am
With the pound rising a little some of the direct from Japan prices are a tad more favourable.  Just ordered one of these as the price has dropped below £15 for the first time in a good while:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tomytec-Building-142-Modern-Building-A-Downtown-Skyscraper-1-150-N-scale-/202039362032? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tomytec-Building-142-Modern-Building-A-Downtown-Skyscraper-1-150-N-scale-/202039362032?)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on September 15, 2017, 11:09:50 am
Now that is just plain ugly.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 15, 2017, 11:22:42 am
Now that is just plain ugly.

Yep, but I ain't a thatched cottage kinda guy :D

In seriousness, it strikes me as a good generic distant cityscape building of indeterminate scale - particularly if the ground floors are hidden by something in the foreground.  Could even work in OO for forced perspective 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Evans on September 15, 2017, 12:17:40 pm
These type of buildings are great, something different to the usual quaint buildings and at a great price.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: pape_timmo on September 15, 2017, 02:35:33 pm
I agree, great for a cityscape.

Cheers, Timmo
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: weave on September 15, 2017, 04:06:01 pm
Hi,

Agree with Ian, that's awful but in a lovely modern nice looking way. You'll have to change your name to 'Electric Boy', especially if you get it lit up!

Sounds like a bargain to me.

Cheers weave  :beers:


Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 16, 2017, 01:43:35 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1490-160917133707.jpeg)

My latest arrival: Tomixís Brown Condominium, part number 4234 direct from Plaza Japan on eBay.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1490-160917133749.jpeg)

This is actually the third of these Iíve got as they look good grouped for urban residential areas.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1490-160917133828.jpeg)

They also pull apart easily so you can add/subtract floors, Lego style!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on September 16, 2017, 01:46:18 pm
All it needs is some graffiti, skips, piles of rubbish, hoodies, burnt-out cars....
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 16, 2017, 01:48:35 pm
All it needs is some graffiti, skips, piles of rubbish, hoodies, burnt-out cars....

If I manage to produce discarded needles in N I'll really be finescale :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: weave on September 16, 2017, 02:45:33 pm
Hi,

I like them. I have difficulty finding Spanish looking buildings. I have two of those at the moment. They'll need some work of my limited ability but like the fact they come apart floor wise. Have plans re apartments/ hotel etc.

Also the windows come out out quite easily so I can get rid of the triangular windows at the sides as too modern for me. Will probably just reverse and stick back.

Are you going to weather them? If so, I'd be interested what/how you are going to do it.  I've got one that colour and and a buff one. Also am looking for ways to make Bougainvillea climbers which can cover any gluing sins ( I know they are Lego style but think best to glue when one's happy with it. My stairs collapsed while I was playing about with floor heights. Don't want to be sued by the tourists!)

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on September 16, 2017, 03:56:21 pm
I started off thinking they were too luxurious for UK but then got to thinking about all the stairs and places to hide for ne'er do wells. I now agree with...............

All it needs is some graffiti, skips, piles of rubbish, hoodies, burnt-out cars....
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2017, 04:25:25 pm
I started off thinking they were too luxurious for UK but then got to thinking about all the stairs and places to hide for ne'er do wells. I now agree with...............

All it needs is some graffiti, skips, piles of rubbish, hoodies, burnt-out cars....

Alternatively, they could be desirable flats for Yuppies?
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: railsquid on September 16, 2017, 04:37:06 pm
If anyone's taking notes, that building is pretty typical for the late Showa period, i.e 70s/80s Japan, and looks relatively spacious.

A couple of vaguely similar real-world examples:

http://www.athome.co.jp/bldg-library/miyagi/sendai_wakabayashi/94384/ (http://www.athome.co.jp/bldg-library/miyagi/sendai_wakabayashi/94384/)
http://reblo.net/cityhome-tennoji/build-1112958/ (http://reblo.net/cityhome-tennoji/build-1112958/)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 16, 2017, 05:12:03 pm
Are you going to weather them? If so, I'd be interested what/how you are going to do it.

Definitely, but with a whole layout to build from the ground up it's not going to be any time soon.  Most likely I'll repaint in an appropriately suicidal shade of concrete and weather with powders.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 20, 2017, 07:12:57 pm
This week the house has been invaded by tradesman once more, doing the (hopefully) last round of snag fixing.  With the mancave temporarily packed solid with detritus* again Iíve not been able to access the layout :(

This merry band of artisans left at lunchtime today, however, and most things have now been replaced in the rooms below where they belong.  Hoorah! - Iíve even managed some layout wiring and testing! 8)

And now there shouldnít be any more invasions of my designated play area Iíve got a whole load of timber being delivered tomorrow for the next phase  :beers:

* No, not the troll
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: pape_timmo on September 21, 2017, 09:24:24 am
You'd have 'The Watch' on your back if Detritus was stuck in there...

Great work though, keep it up.

Cheers, Timmo
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 22, 2017, 09:01:13 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1490-220917205138.jpeg)

A considerable amount of woodwork today on what is still really the first phase of the layout build.  I couldnít put this up at the same time as the earlier stage because it restricts access to the Velux windows above the layout and remedial work was needed on these first.

But with that work now complete a new delivery of timber has been cut and fixed in place - shame I ran out of screws >:(
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 27, 2017, 02:28:36 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1490-270917142332.jpeg)

Still busy with the wood-butchering at the moment, which isnít really worth a photo yet, so by way of light relief my postperson has just handed this one over.  Tomytec Condominium 062-2, direct from PlazaJapan via ebay.

Should take all of 5 minutes to assemble knowing Tomytec, but I must finish the baseboards first!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: railsquid on September 27, 2017, 03:25:39 pm
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1490-270917142332.jpeg[/url])

Still busy with the wood-butchering at the moment, which isnít really worth a photo yet, so by way of light relief my postperson has just handed this one over.  Tomytec Condominium 062-2, direct from PlazaJapan via ebay.

Should take all of 5 minutes to assemble knowing Tomytec, but I must finish the baseboards first!

That one's trickier than it looks, you really need at least 3 hands for it (not a problem for me  8) ). Pretty sure I ended up glueing some parts in place.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 27, 2017, 05:10:47 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1490-270917170800.jpeg)


That one's trickier than it looks, you really need at least 3 hands for it (not a problem for me  8) ). Pretty sure I ended up glueing some parts in place.


Yes, it's a bit on the floppy side when clipped together!  Glue will be in order before parts vanish into the vacuum cleaner :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: keithbythe sea on September 28, 2017, 07:37:03 am
I much prefer the colour of the previous building  :laugh3:

The detritus isn't possum related?
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 30, 2017, 10:26:20 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1490-300917102205.jpeg)

A view of the layout as of 20 minutes ago, taken whilst wobbling uncertainly on top of a well padded armchair and trying not to drop the iPad :goggleeyes:

This week the baseboard has grown (regular watering is the key) almost entirely down the long side of the room.  Thereís a gap remaining off camera to the right which will have a temporary return loop fitted this weekend.  In fact, I envisage quite a lot of progress over the next week as Fiona is away in Scotland for a gathering of the clans :wave:

This section (Phase 1) is all yard, the basement parking level of the layout, hence the totally flat (within given parameters of my woodwork) baseboards. Scenery on this Ďscenicí fiddle yard will be restricted to station and yard detailing, to make the expanse of tracks a little more interesting from the onboard camera perspective.  Which reminds me, Iíve not seen the CamTruck since we moved, must have a ferret about 8)

All track at this end of the layout has just been plonked down loosely to get a feel for how things will fit, it doesnít represent the exact plan thatís currently in my head.

Thatís 2 4-CEPs plus 4 loose carriages parked in the longest platform, making sure a 12 coach train will fit.  One day Iíll have three 4-CEPs and not have to pretendÖ
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on September 30, 2017, 10:28:31 am
Looks great!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: weave on September 30, 2017, 11:25:19 am
Hi Steve,

All looking good.

You be careful with those aerial shots anyway but knowing you have the woofers..... I did mine on a chair, half in the room and half on top of the landing. The Belgian and Carpathian sheep dogs didn't bat an eyelid but the border collie and border cross thought it was great fun. 'Let's try and round up daddy and kill him and ourselves at the same time!'

Always looking forward to more.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 30, 2017, 02:43:42 pm
You be careful with those aerial shots anyway but knowing you have the woofers..... I did mine on a chair, half in the room and half on top of the landing. The Belgian and Carpathian sheep dogs didn't bat an eyelid but the border collie and border cross thought it was great fun. 'Let's try and round up daddy and kill him and ourselves at the same time!'

Too right!  Now we've got twice as many stairs in the house the Break-A-Neck game is being pursued with renewed vigour. :censored:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 30, 2017, 03:05:53 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1490-300917150129.jpeg)

Itís amazing how much you can get done when left without a responsible adult in the house.  Iíve got the supports in for the temporary return loop and still had time to browse both the N Gauge Journal and the 2mm Magazine.  Washing up nil, trains three :smiley-laughing:

This joins on to the bottom right of the previous photo.  The large piece of expanded polystyrene* came with the new fridge-freezer and was grabbed for train-set use as soon as I saw it.


* Probably the most fire-resistant part of the whole caboodle from what Iíve read :worried:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on September 30, 2017, 03:26:28 pm
That's far too tidy :o
What have you done with your real railway room? :telloff: ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on September 30, 2017, 03:51:09 pm
Itís amazing how much you can get done when left without a responsible adult in the house.  Iíve got the supports in for the temporary return loop and still had time to browse both the N Gauge Journal and the 2mm Magazine.  Washing up nil, trains three :smiley-laughing:

Brilliant: agreed+++.  I would love to pop into the Train Set Room now, but I have been given vacuuming to do!

Toodle-pip.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: railsquid on September 30, 2017, 04:05:15 pm
Itís amazing how much you can get done when left without a responsible adult in the house.  Iíve got the supports in for the temporary return loop and still had time to browse both the N Gauge Journal and the 2mm Magazine.  Washing up nil, trains three :smiley-laughing:

Brilliant: agreed+++.  I would love to pop into the Train Set Room now, but I have been given vacuuming to do!
I'll do the vacuuming if you will look after my toddler.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 30, 2017, 09:56:12 pm
I would love to pop into the Train Set Room now, but I have been given vacuuming to do!

I could write you a note, if it helps? ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 01, 2017, 12:39:03 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1490-011017122917.jpeg)


Seems Iím too shaky to get a smooth panorama with the iPad, but this oneís the best I can manage.

The temporary return loop is now in place but not connected electrically as yet.  All boards to the right of the picture are temporary, too, but held in place with a few screws to mitigate the inevitable impact of Kat Kong ::)

Iíve found the Branor CamTruck (by the Farish box in the centre of the photo) so will be testing eye-level viewpoints before long.  Iíve dropped some buildings on the layout with this in mind, although they wonít be there on the finished article.  Finished?  Must Google that later :-[
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 05, 2017, 11:16:19 pm
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:  Many thanks for the updates Steve, as always looking forward to more
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 06, 2017, 12:11:30 pm
Many thanks for the updates Steve, as always looking forward to more

Thanks Derek.

During the latter part of this week Iíve installed assorted shelving beneath the new part of the layout and had a major tidy-up. Also unpacked the DCC kit and wired it in.

Nothing worth a photo but I feel Iíve achieved a lot with the house to myself, and the trains run quite happily round the reverse loop which was one thing I couldnít achieve while testing with plain old DC!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: port perran on October 06, 2017, 06:19:09 pm
That looks really good.
Very tidy.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 08, 2017, 02:42:45 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1490-081017144013.jpeg)


Tracklaying through the station area today.  All of the through lines are glued down now, apart from the centre road where the obvious gap is visible and the nearest line where the metal weights are holding things down.  These should be finished today.

All track is wired in to DCC and block sections installed - actual stopping sections are denoted with red marker pen on the baseboard while Iím building but this will be hidden under ballast ultimately.

Iím running out of Copydex and have ordered another bottle! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on October 08, 2017, 03:45:48 pm
That looks excellent, Steve, and it's all so well-organised.

One can't have too much 'Copydex'!

All the best.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: railsquid on October 08, 2017, 03:59:34 pm
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1490-081017144013.jpeg[/url])

Just missing the "Electric Boy" signage on that building in the background on the right.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: port perran on October 08, 2017, 04:09:05 pm
So neat and tidy.
Where are all the tools, boxes of screws, tins of paint etc ?
Looks very good though.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on October 08, 2017, 06:53:25 pm
So neat and tidy.
Where are all the tools, boxes of screws, tins of paint etc ?
I suspect panning the camera might reveal the answer to that....
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 08, 2017, 07:22:55 pm
I suspect panning the camera might reveal the answer to that....

Shhhhhh! :-X
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 08, 2017, 11:39:32 pm
 :hellosign: Looking good Steve  :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 09, 2017, 08:12:53 am
:hellosign: Looking good Steve  :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.

Seconded!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 09, 2017, 06:14:49 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1490-091017181215.jpeg)

I'm surprised it took him so long, but Kato has finally invited himself up onto the layout.  One car of a 4CEP was knocked on it's side, which isn't a bad result based on experience with previous cats :worried:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on October 09, 2017, 06:28:05 pm
What a lovely photograph, Steve!  Kato is certainly a very fine fellow and will be great company in your modelling endeavours.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on October 09, 2017, 08:17:44 pm
I'm sure you'll have a better relationship with Kato than Peter Sellers had with his ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: PeteW on October 09, 2017, 08:34:07 pm
Handsome fella, and even next to N Gauge, looks like a big one. I speak as a 30-year veteran of Maine Coon hosting!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: weave on October 09, 2017, 08:58:00 pm
Handsome fella, and even next to N Gauge, looks like a big one. I speak as a 30-year veteran of Maine Coon hosting!

Hi,

Had to look that up so for others like me....

https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/maine-coon-cats-24__605.jpg

Sorry for the hijack.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 10, 2017, 08:59:46 am
I'm sure you'll have a better relationship with Kato than Peter Sellers had with his ;)

There are many similarities... :o
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 10, 2017, 09:02:00 am
Handsome fella, and even next to N Gauge, looks like a big one. I speak as a 30-year veteran of Maine Coon hosting!

Nah, must be the camera angle.  He's just a regular size moggie, nowhere near the size of some British Shorthairs yet alone a Maine Coon!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 10, 2017, 11:26:44 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1490-101017105225.jpeg)

After inital testing with a cheapie Bachmann DC controller all of the gubbins for DCC operation is going in, including computer control.  Iím using a Lenz system for handsets, train control and train detection, with a Digitrax subsystem to operate points and signals off a dedicated LocoNet bus.

Iíve salvaged all of the equipment from my 2 previous layouts so far, but have cut the large timber boards I used before into smaller sections to better fit the spaces under the new layout.

Photo shows a Lenz LR101 feedback module linked to 4 Lenz LB101 block detector modules, giving 8 detected sections in total.  Iíve got rather a lot of these, so theyíll be popping up all over (under?) the layout in the near future.

Iím using red and black wires for the DCC bus, green and yellow for the feedback bus and brown for a separate AC power feed where needed by modules.  Some of the sections have short lengths of blue and white Kato wires/plugs fitted, others will have have wires to the screw terminals.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1490-101017105516.jpeg)

Iíve never been much for planning on paper or computer, instead doing it in my head and on the board - I can visualise things better that way.  When it comes to section breaks and wiring, however, my brain does need a little help. :-[  Scribbling on photos is my preferred way, works even better on the iPad now with IOS 11 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on October 10, 2017, 07:09:43 pm
Blimey, Steve!

All these gizmos are scary biscuits; I think I'll stick to DC.

I completely agree with you regarding the in-head and on-site planning.

All the very best.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 10, 2017, 10:01:37 pm
 :hellosign: Thanks for the update Steve although I admit that electrickity is totally over my head
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 11, 2017, 09:34:40 am
All these gizmos are scary biscuits; I think I'll stick to DC.

Thanks for the update Steve although I admit that electrickity is totally over my head

I'm told that if I remember it always flows downhill I won't go far wrong ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Innovationgame on October 11, 2017, 12:16:10 pm
The principle of electricity is actually very simple.  This might help http://www.explainthatstuff.com/electricity.html (http://www.explainthatstuff.com/electricity.html)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on October 11, 2017, 01:42:04 pm
All these gizmos are scary biscuits; I think I'll stick to DC.

Thanks for the update Steve although I admit that electrickity is totally over my head

I'm told that if I remember it always flows downhill I won't go far wrong ;)
Which is why mains sockets have those little shutters on them. They stop it leaking out onto the carpet.  ::)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on October 11, 2017, 07:14:35 pm
All these gizmos are scary biscuits; I think I'll stick to DC.

Thanks for the update Steve although I admit that electrickity is totally over my head

I'm told that if I remember it always flows downhill I won't go far wrong ;)

I grew up in sunny Ayrshire: one of the local wonders is the 'Electric Brae' where things flow uphill!   :confused1:

I think the chance of the wonderful 'Capital Lines' relocating to Croy is probably a tad remote, so you ought to be safe with this advice.   :beers:

All the very best.

John 
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: railsquid on October 12, 2017, 12:42:48 am
All these gizmos are scary biscuits; I think I'll stick to DC.

Thanks for the update Steve although I admit that electrickity is totally over my head

I'm told that if I remember it always flows downhill I won't go far wrong ;)
Which is why mains sockets have those little shutters on them. They stop it leaking out onto the carpet.  ::)
I allways thought electricity flows upwards to the sky as its natural instinct is to return to the clouds where it came from in the first place. (That's also why so much computing has been move to the cloud due to the large amounts of free electricity up there).
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 12, 2017, 09:42:49 am
Straight after breakfast I got stuck in to modifying points for the next section of track and installing proper bus-related wiring to replace some of my temporary stuff.  If I don't crack on with such repetitious work first thing I'll sit down all day thinking about it...
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on October 12, 2017, 09:51:53 am
A day spent thinking about it could save you heaps of retro work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 12, 2017, 09:58:55 am
A day spent thinking about it could save you heaps of retro work  :thumbsup:

I've contemplated that quite extensively :doh:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 13, 2017, 10:13:51 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/1490-131017101035.jpeg)

Latest arrival from Japan.  The Tomix convenience store, part number 4270.

A very useful modern structure, IMO, that would do for anything from a station building to a unit on an industrial/retail park.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on October 13, 2017, 11:15:28 am
Yes indeed. Cool looking  model!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: railsquid on October 13, 2017, 02:57:38 pm
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Latest arrival from Japan.  The Tomix convenience store, part number 4270.

Very handy store, especially if it's the middle of the night and you suddenly need to acquire some family.

Useless actual fact: FamilyMart was part of the Seibu Group, which started out as a railway operator (sitting on one of their trains right now) but branched out into many businesses.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: weave on October 13, 2017, 07:25:01 pm
With Christmas coming the last thing I want is to acquire more family  :no: . Luckily, except for 24 of the shops, the rest are shut :thumbsup: Bah humbug.

Nice looking kit though. I forget the difference between Tomix and Tomytec because some from both have been great and others not so good (unless it's Tomix that are better. Can't remember. Must stop drinking!).

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bluebottle on October 13, 2017, 08:22:13 pm
Ah!, 24 hr opening?, ARKWRIGHT still lives!!!!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: port perran on October 13, 2017, 08:24:36 pm
Ah!, 24 hr opening?, ARKWRIGHT still lives!!!!

Certainly does......this is Arkwrights store in Camborne a few milesfromme!
http://media.rightmove.co.uk/dir/88k/87464/25289556/87464_10001790E_1790_IMG_01_0000_max_656x437.JPG (http://media.rightmove.co.uk/dir/88k/87464/25289556/87464_10001790E_1790_IMG_01_0000_max_656x437.JPG)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 14, 2017, 08:17:11 am
Nice looking kit though. I forget the difference between Tomix and Tomytec because some from both have been great and others not so good (unless it's Tomix that are better. Can't remember. Must stop drinking!).

From what I've seen so far it seems Tomix are assembled models, barring a few detail parts, whilst Tomytec are simple kits.  Tomytec are also a bit 'lumpier' to my eyes.

But I'm sure our Man in Japan could be more enlightening...
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on October 14, 2017, 08:34:59 am
I've kept this quiet from the forum, but one of the Bealettes is now living and working in Japan. She certainly isn't a railway modeller, but at least I have someone on the ground!

Our Tokyo connection is indeed the man, though!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 14, 2017, 12:09:43 pm
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And the Prannock of the Year award goes to...

A crossover laid and tested last night no longer works in the cold light of day.  Cue shouting, swearing and giving up model railways for EVER :veryangry:

Then, post restorative cup of tea, let's see what the problem is.  Despite it's thickness Copydex seem to ooze and flow a little more than I expected.  Fish the 'bogies' out using the trusty Olfa cutter and vow to keep glue further away from the moving parts next time :-[
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: railsquid on October 14, 2017, 02:44:07 pm
Nice looking kit though. I forget the difference between Tomix and Tomytec because some from both have been great and others not so good (unless it's Tomix that are better. Can't remember. Must stop drinking!).

From what I've seen so far it seems Tomix are assembled models, barring a few detail parts, whilst Tomytec are simple kits.  Tomytec are also a bit 'lumpier' to my eyes.

But I'm sure our Man in Japan could be more enlightening...

Dunno what happened to the Man but I'd be the Squid in Japan.

Anyway the Tomix buildings are part of the original Tomix model railway range, many date back to the 1970s, they come mainly pre-assembled, with stickers to apply as desired. Despite their age they're pretty decent structures with sharp detail, and suitable for kitbashing.

Tomytec is an offshoot of the parent Tomy company, IIRC they started out making N scale vehicles and branched out into the Tomytec range of static display trains, which are not quite as detailed as mainstream Tomix ones, but on the other hand that has made it possible to provided a wide range of obscurer models other manufacturers wouldn't touch, and they are designed to be motorized. The buildings and other accessories are made on a similar principle, cheap with lots of variety, the older designs do tend to be a bit "blobby" with overscale windows and a tendency for the parts to bend, but nothing a little modelling can't solve.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on October 14, 2017, 08:12:35 pm


And the Prannock of the Year award goes to...

A crossover laid and tested last night no longer works in the cold light of day.  Cue shouting, swearing and giving up model railways for EVER :veryangry:

Then, post restorative cup of tea, let's see what the problem is.  Despite it's thickness Copydex seem to ooze and flow a little more than I expected.  Fish the 'bogies' out using the trusty Olfa cutter and vow to keep glue further away from the moving parts next time :-[

Steve, that's one of the virtues of 'Copydex', it can be fairly easily removed.  Probably why it's recommended for small children and me!  Just imagine the 'fun' if you had used PVA instead?  I avoid PVA whenever possible...

I'm very glad you have not given up on model railways as I am greatly enjoying your posts about this splendid layout.

Toodle-oo.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 15, 2017, 09:11:28 am
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that's one of the virtues of 'Copydex', it can be fairly easily removed.


Amen to that.  Yesterday I had to pull up a whole platform road and reposition it as, despite repeated checks and measurements, the platform wouldn't sit level between the lines.  Geriatric drift! :-[

Everything came up quickly and easily and was refitted correctly within half an hour or so :thumbsup:

Seems everything I did on Friday 13th turned into a disaster :(
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 18, 2017, 09:43:59 am
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Things I donít enjoy.  Ballasting.  Wiring.

Iíve been doing quite a bit of both this week, along with some track-laying in the freight sidings where the mug and vac are in the photo.

Ballasting the Kato track, fortunately, is limited to fixing cork sheet in the gaps and applying a thin layer of the matching Kato 24-039 ballast on top.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on October 18, 2017, 09:52:35 am
That's looking so good.  :thumbsup:

But you're going to have to deal with the ballast soon!  :beers:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: weave on October 18, 2017, 11:22:37 am
Hi,

All looking great. Was wondering when and how (or even if) you were going to do the ballasting. I won't be doing mine for a while as I don't seem to be able to anything much at the moment (I think being on Strictly Come Dancing has taken it's toll on my energy levels  :D).

Also, I still haven't decided on my approach. Any chance of a closer pic of your Kato ballast. I have a box full of ballast bags, mainly Woodlands Scenics of various colours, fine and medium, + Kato ballast. I try not to open the box as it does my head in and then I can't sleep at night.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 18, 2017, 12:17:51 pm
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Any chance of a closer pic of your Kato ballast. I have a box full of ballast bags, mainly Woodlands Scenics of various colours, fine and medium, + Kato ballast. I try not to open the box as it does my head in and then I can't sleep at night.


Here's a warts'n'all shot of some I've just applied to cover one of the bare patches in the previous photo.

It's one layer only so far, in neat PVA brushed on top of 3mm cork tiles from Wickes.  The glue is still wet and I've vacuumed the excess off straight away - note that the glue is still showing through.

I'm intending a second layer in diluted PVA once this has dried, but wanted a layer with thicker glue first to more easily fill the gaps in the cork, etc.

It's not a perfect match in either texture or colours, but it'll be close enough once weathered in 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 18, 2017, 12:31:32 pm
Already it looks very good. Once finished, I'm sure it will be impossible to tell where the added ballast and the track 'shoulders' begin and end.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: weave on October 18, 2017, 04:34:46 pm
Hi,

Excellent. Great stuff  :thumbsup:. Your progress will be very much taken on board.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 18, 2017, 11:02:36 pm
 :hellosign: Looking good Steve thanks for a very useful update
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 20, 2017, 09:44:36 am
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And the latest arrival from Japan, I'd better start making spaces without tracks for these things to take root on!

This is the Tomix 4026 Apartments from Plaza Japan http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tomix-4026-Apartment-Red-roof-N-scale/201918052312 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tomix-4026-Apartment-Red-roof-N-scale/201918052312) and the value of the goods EXCLUDING postage is under the £15 HMRC threshold so there's nothing extra to pay.  £15 or over and you'll probably be charged on the value of the goods INCLUDING postage :wave:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: keithbythe sea on October 21, 2017, 07:27:38 am
Thatís a good looking building Steve, and a good price too.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 21, 2017, 07:07:34 pm
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DCC bus and associated wiring is still progressing around the layout.  Currently positioned every two or three feet, these terminal blocks have been under every layout I've built since about 1979.  Good investment, courtesy of the hardware section in the basement of Brum's much-missed Lewis's department store :thumbsup:

Red and black constitute the DCC bus, whilst the brown pair carry 16v AC for accessories.

As a keen student of forward planning, I'm wondering why the wood I'm planning to screw the next few of these to is obscured behind bookcases :-[
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Innovationgame on October 21, 2017, 08:03:42 pm
DCC bus and associated wiring is still progressing around the layout.  Currently positioned every two or three feet, these terminal blocks have been under every layout I've built since about 1979.  Good investment, courtesy of the hardware section in the basement of Brum's much-missed Lewis's department store[
You can't beat good old 'chocolate block' barrier strip.  I buy mine from Radiospares.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on October 21, 2017, 08:05:35 pm
Already it looks very good. Once finished, I'm sure it will be impossible to tell where the added ballast and the track 'shoulders' begin and end.

Seconded!  The Kato ballast is clearly ideal for the job.  Especially if it is as expertly applied as it is in this instance.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on October 21, 2017, 08:44:36 pm
As a keen student of forward planning, I'm wondering why the wood I'm planning to screw the next few of these to is obscured behind bookcases :-[

                                                                                                                                  Always plan ahead
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 28, 2017, 10:28:47 am
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The pace has slowed over the last week as thereís nothing quite like ballasting and wiring to kill my enthusiasm.  But Iíve still been doing something every day, so there is progress if you compare this latest image (top) with the similar view from a week or so back - bottom.

Starting to get a bit of a London Look? :no:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 28, 2017, 11:28:06 am
Thanks for the update. Always good to see steady progress. That is a very fine crossover.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on October 28, 2017, 01:17:18 pm

Starting to get a bit of a London Look? :no:

Wot? Rimmel? :confused1:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 28, 2017, 02:10:07 pm
Wot? Rimmel? :confused1:

If truth be told, Iím more ďArnold JĒ than ďdangerously long lashesĒ :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on October 28, 2017, 02:28:27 pm
Wot? Rimmel? :confused1:

If truth be told, Iím more ďArnold JĒ than ďdangerously long lashesĒ :D

 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on October 28, 2017, 02:56:13 pm

Starting to get a bit of a London Look? :no:

Yes, definitely; that complex web of tracks is very reminiscent of the first couple of miles out from a London terminus.

The Kato 'Unitrack' looks very good in this context.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on October 29, 2017, 06:54:57 am
Great looking trackwork. :thumbsup:

Good luck with the ballasting - just started mine!

Dave G
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on October 29, 2017, 07:11:04 am
Definitely starting to get a London look.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 31, 2017, 07:27:43 pm
Doing some more wiring whilst dreading the doorbell's ring on this annual night of horror.  The thought of giving perfectly good sweets and chocolate to assorted ankle-biters and minors brings me out in a cold sweat ;) :worried:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: themadhippy on October 31, 2017, 08:11:26 pm
Quote
The thought of giving perfectly good sweets and chocolate to assorted ankle-biters and minors brings me out in a cold sweat
Buy a large tray of ferrorocher, carefully unwrap and eat em yerself,mean while  cover raw brussel spouts with elcheapo choclate,when cooled wrap in  the saved ferroroche wrappers ,  place em back in the tray and leave said tray by front door.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: weave on October 31, 2017, 08:38:53 pm
Hi you madhippy,

I would love to do the brussel sprout thing but I don't really want to wake up to airless tyres and my van wrapped in toilet paper.

Hi Steve. Luckily, although the most annoying of our four dogs, Guinness, the border collie/ retriever cross, who will bark at the air for no reason, has had a few run ins with the skater boys and their younger entourage so hopefully they're all too terrified to think about coming through the gate. Hopefully.

Good luck with the wiring and hope you have a peaceful evening.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 01, 2017, 09:07:03 am
No time for sprout-wrapping, besides Iíd sooner eat a sprout than a yukky Ferrero Rocher :D

Canít believe I spent the whole day yesterday (barring meals and dog walks) messing with wiring and, at the end of it, nothing seems any different on the top side of things.  Such is the peril of aiming for a degree of automation, what DCC simplifies a computer will put back with a vengeance.  And Iíve not even started on the colour light signals!

Actually Iíve coked* up a few things along the way and had to redo them :veryangry:


* Large Chicken with substance abuse issues
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: jools1959 on November 01, 2017, 09:07:46 am
Quote
The thought of giving perfectly good sweets and chocolate to assorted ankle-biters and minors brings me out in a cold sweat
Buy a large tray of ferrorocher, carefully unwrap and eat em yerself,mean while  cover raw brussel spouts with elcheapo choclate,when cooled wrap in  the saved ferroroche wrappers ,  place em back in the tray and leave said tray by front door.

 :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on November 01, 2017, 09:29:29 am
Quote
The thought of giving perfectly good sweets and chocolate to assorted ankle-biters and minors brings me out in a cold sweat
Buy a large tray of ferrorocher, carefully unwrap and eat em yerself,mean while  cover raw brussel spouts with elcheapo choclate,when cooled wrap in  the saved ferroroche wrappers ,  place em back in the tray and leave said tray by front door.

Just to let you know I tried this wizard wheeze last night and the little sods vomited through my letter box so I'd advise anyone thinking of this not to :no:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 01, 2017, 10:17:49 am
Just to let you know I tried this wizard wheeze last night and the little sods vomited through my letter box

Thank heaven for your black rubber floor covering ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 02, 2017, 10:55:49 am
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As Iím on the register of known ballast dodgers I canít actually remember when/if I last ran out of the materials concerned - so yesterday was something of a milestone as I had to take delivery of replenishments from Keith at Traintrax before any more work could be done :o

Also in the post came two VAT Club frequent flier renewal forms from the jolly folk at Revenue and Customs so, having paid these online via the Royal Mail website, Iím hoping that I should soon receive one box containing a Kato EF66 electric loco and another holding a brace of Japanese intermodal wagons :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 03, 2017, 02:29:37 pm
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Iíve been looking forward to this little lot percolating through customs!  A Kato EF66-100 electric (my favourite Japanese loco by far) and a couple of Tomix KOKI 107 intermodal wagons, with working tail lights 8)

Now to fit the detail partsÖ
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on November 03, 2017, 02:31:47 pm
1001 posts, Steve :claphappy:
All together now - "1001 cleans a big, big carpet, for less than half a crown" ;D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 03, 2017, 02:33:45 pm
All together now - "1001 cleans a big, big carpet, for less than half a crown" ;D

I always preferred "All the dirt, all the grit, Hoover gets out all the shh..." :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 03, 2017, 03:14:25 pm
.....sssshine your buckles with Brasso, only 3 pence a tin....

Whoops, Scouting flashback  :D

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on November 03, 2017, 05:16:21 pm
Looks great, Tut!

Now, stop all this harking back or I'll start singing 'We are the Ovaltineys.'! ::)

Dave G

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 09, 2017, 08:52:33 pm
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I've removed and relaid this siding not once but twice tonight, the first attempt went down with exactly the same dog-leg I'd been trying to get rid of :veryangry:  Must be something wrong with my eyes :-[

But on the plus side, pulling up copydex is quite addictive :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on November 10, 2017, 08:41:22 am
Commiserations. I have a short section of track that simply won't stay put!

Of course, it's in the worst possible place so getting the darned thing right is being a right old PITA!

Perhaps I could ignore it and it'll go away?  :confused1:

Dave G
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 10, 2017, 02:05:03 pm
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Today I've started linking in the computer, which means there'll be lots of playing and little construction in the near future :)

So, to be going on with, here's a view I don't normally see as it involves leaning on the wall on the other side of the layout.

The radius of the Kato N banked curves looks more than acceptable with a train passing, I think, especially with the addition of the home-made transition.  OO would have been very tight in this space :P

The blue Kato DC controller isn't used for running trains, it merely powers the point switches at the moment and will disappear as I progress with linking up the computer and accessory decoders 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 10, 2017, 08:56:30 pm
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There's nothing like train detection for finding wiring issues that simple running doesn't show.  I've got a couple of issues where a train will show as occupying two sections although it's only in one.  Having exhausted all the obvious solutions I suspect it may be the design of the Kato insulating joiners.  The actual insulating part is so tiny that I'm guessing the two isolated rails can touch if you squash them together a little too enthusiastically.  Can't confirm that yet, but I'd put money on it!

I'm using the JMRI suite of software for initial testing.  Although I do own a paid for copy of Freiwald's mighty Traincontroller, I've not fired up Windows for well over a year and don't fancy sitting through hours of updates when I eventually do :uneasy:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: cornish yorkie on November 10, 2017, 10:59:43 pm
 :hellosign: Thanks for the updates Steve & love the photo
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on November 10, 2017, 11:36:25 pm
I've not fired up Windows for well over a year and don't fancy sitting through hours of updates when I eventually do :uneasy:
A year? You can get that if you don't fire it up for a week!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 14, 2017, 06:56:59 pm
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Things are moving along nicely on the control front.  Finally bringing the points under DCC control is, in particular, a welcome relief.

Initially I'm fitting Digitrax DS64 stationary decoders to control the Kato points, I have other types piled up for later but the Digitrax examples work straight out of the box with Katos, no programming or clever wiring required.

Under normal circumstances, the black wire from the point goes to the 'R' terminals and the red wire to the 'G' terminals.  The 'common' terminals are not used with Kato points as they're two wire only.  For flexibility I've added short leads with plugs cut off from Kato extension cables, but obviously direct bare wire connection would be simpler.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 16, 2017, 11:09:25 am
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First thing this morning I fitted a DCC decoder to one of my Kato DD51 diesels.  I'd been putting this off for a while pending chassis hacking but decided to go the plug'n'play Digitrax route in the end just to get it off the shelf and onto the layout quicker.  I can always upgrade to a better decoder in the future if I fancy, in fact it's number 697,329 on my do-list already ;)

Full instructions for fitting the Digitrax DN163K1D decoder can be found at http://www.digitrax.com/tsd/KB124/kato-dd51-installation-of-dn163k1d/ (http://www.digitrax.com/tsd/KB124/kato-dd51-installation-of-dn163k1d/) but, to be honest, by far the trickiest bit is working out how the body comes off! :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 20, 2017, 12:39:39 pm
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I'm still labouring away on the scenic fiddle yard and I've managed a lot of work over the last few days  :thumbsup:

As well as extensive ballasting in the distance (unfortunately largely burnt out by the mixed lighting in the photo - must get some more tubes to even it out!) I've been busy on the nearest trackwork as well.  Most of the points in the foreground are fixed down and DCC controlled, I'm now working on trimming the connecting pieces to fit - I've just glued in the one dead centre and the rest will follow hopefully today.

All the blue Kato point control switches are now disconnected and need to be removed, another job for today.

Most of the work has been underboard wiring and computer fiddling, however, not something you can tell from a photo.  I still need to track-circuit some of the formation in the distance, anything with a glass jar standing on it is 'dark' territory at the moment.

I know I shouldn't, but Kato station canopies are ideal for storing tools while working - push-pins for holding the cork down at the moment :-[
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: port perran on November 20, 2017, 12:47:57 pm
Looks good.
I like the idea of a scenic fiddle yard and itís something that Iím considering.
Nothing wrong with using the canopies for storage. Saves having things laying all over the place.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on November 20, 2017, 02:14:33 pm

I'm still labouring away on the scenic fiddle yard and I've managed a lot of work over the last few days  :thumbsup:

 

Looks good.
I like the idea of a scenic fiddle yard and it’s something that I’m considering.

I think it's a great idea as well, especially if it is primarily a staging yard to hold trains between movements.  I think that a small hidden fiddle yard is fine where one is making up trains and suchlike, but a large hidden staging yard is, to me, a waste of modelling potential (and its nice to see the trains). 

This looks like it will be an exceptionally good example of the scenic approach.

All good wishes.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 22, 2017, 07:29:43 pm
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Those screws are marking the pilot holes where colour light signals will probably go, although I accept they look more like LNWR water columns currently than signals.  The chocolate block connectors are place-holders for calling-on and/or shunt signals.

It's too early to actually fit signals permanently in place as they're very vulnerable to elbows and stomachs under normal circumstances, yet alone when construction is under way.  But they do need to be prepared for early on so as to ensure equipment and cabling will actually fit without drilling holes through cross-members or expensive boxes of electronics!
 

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1490-221117190623.jpeg)

Signals will be driven from the Digitrax SE8C modules I've got.  I'm keeping these and the points on a completely different circuit to the main DCC power so they'll still function fully in the event of a short-circuit on the tracks.


To be honest, I need to do a fair bit more thinking on the signalling front.  This is the scenic fiddle yard I'm tackling first so, whilst full signalling would be overkill, a complete lack would be un-railway-like.  I'm aiming for something inbetween, a bit of working scenery for videos I guess.

On top of that, the fiddle yard is supposed to provide some sort of playground for my Japanese stock (the main layout will be British) so the signalling needs to be both simplified and fairly generic.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 25, 2017, 02:29:55 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1490-251117142043.jpeg)


Fanfare:  The last clump of DCC for the first phase of the layout is sitting on the floor waiting to be fitted.  Two Lenz LR101 feedback modules and two Lenz LB101 block detectors.

This gives four train detection sections for the last bit of track, the return loops of which only the stubs exist so far.  The remaining twelve inputs will be used for push button route selection, letting the computer know which road in the yard you'd like to access.  Computer, of course, may well say no! :D

Once in place, everything I've built so far will be linked to the DCC system/computer and workable, although much software fiddling remains to be done.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on November 25, 2017, 04:18:03 pm
Blimey, Tut!

Does it get Radio Caroline as well?  :dunce:

Totally impressed with you chaps & chapesses that can do such stuff. More than 2 wires gets me all of a fuddle!

Dave G
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on November 25, 2017, 04:22:06 pm
Totally impressed with you chaps & chapesses that can do such stuff. More than 2 wires gets me all of a fuddle!

Two wires are all you need for DCC.

The trick is knowing WHICH two...  :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 25, 2017, 10:16:08 pm
Two wires are all you need for DCC.

Yup. Just like starting with two rabbits :o
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on November 26, 2017, 07:54:14 am
Two wires are all you need for DCC.

Yup. Just like starting with two rabbits :o

That's when I start being fuddled!  :worried:

Dave G
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 28, 2017, 11:23:53 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1490-281117111742.jpeg)

While I was up the stepladder cleaning the Velux windows I took an overall view for posterity, so this is the progress to date (sparkling windows not shown!)

You can see how ballasting has been creeping through the station and yard area and the prominent manual levers on the Kato points are largely history :thumbsup:

Everything to the left of the red line is glued down, wired in and running via either a handset or the computer.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 03, 2017, 11:46:40 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1490-031217114015.jpeg)

This track plan schematic is a screen grab from JMRI Panel Pro, so it's a somewhat straightened out representation rather than a scale diagram.  Useful, though :thumbsup:

Everything on the screen exists on the layout and is linked in, so clicking the points changes them on the layout and the red sections show where trains are at the moment 8)

There are now some extra bits of track on the layout itself, but as they're not fully wired in they're not visible to the computer as yet.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 03, 2017, 12:46:39 pm
Highly impressive.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 03, 2017, 07:11:33 pm


3 years since the last video, which is pretty scary!  I hope I can remember how this YouTube malarkey works after all that time ::)

Just a quick run round the layout to bring things up to date.  Other than extending the layout lighting I think my "resolution" for 2018 must be to get a higher res camera :camera:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on December 03, 2017, 07:36:01 pm
Thank you, Steve.

The video is very realistic and signals will add greatly to the scene.  Like many of us on the Forum (I expect) I have spent a bit of time at the 'front end' - officially and otherwise! - and this recreates the experience.

I found that I was watching the position of the points (drivers are not required to do this, of course, but, recently, it saved the day at Cardiff).  I did not look much at the trackside buildings but knew they were there.

Two questions, please:

How do you clean the rails?

Did you have any bother with slightly uneven rail joints?

Thanks again and all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Mito on December 03, 2017, 08:53:15 pm
Great video. Lovely smooth running. It's more like a man cavern than a man cave! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on December 03, 2017, 09:10:56 pm
"To infirmity and beyond"  ;D
Love it.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Webbo on December 03, 2017, 09:12:29 pm
Good fun Steve

I'm a big fan of on board videos. Might I ask what camera you are using?

Webbo
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: JohnN on December 03, 2017, 09:33:53 pm
I'm very envious of the space you have. A cracking layout indeed.

That mug of tea, seen from an N gauge perspective, seems huge, more like a gas holder.  :o

Silly question, but from someone who has zero experience of Kato track, it looks like the points all have live frogs. Is that right?
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 03, 2017, 10:10:32 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks Steve, a most welcome return of your superb videos
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on December 04, 2017, 06:22:29 am
Smashing!

Great space and I love the gentle curves and nice smooth running over the points.

More vids please but fairly soon. I'm not sure I can wait another 3 years!

Dave G
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 04, 2017, 10:07:26 am
How do you clean the rails?

I use a C&L Finescale track rubber, theyíre less gritty and abrasive than the Peco ones.  Finish off with a light polish using the nearest cat :no:


Did you have any bother with slightly uneven rail joints?

From time to time, but these can be largely eliminated with careful track laying, as with any brand. If a Kato joint is a persistent problem then thereís something wrong, probably something bent or twisted. These pieces are removed and put in the ďfor cutting upĒ pile.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 04, 2017, 10:10:55 am
Good fun Steve

I'm a big fan of on board videos. Might I ask what camera you are using?

Webbo


Iím still using the Branor Systems one from the start of the thread http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=19584.msg200314#msg200314 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=19584.msg200314#msg200314) but Iím looking to get something with better resolution.  Are you listening, Santa? >:D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 04, 2017, 10:14:13 am
Silly question, but from someone who has zero experience of Kato track, it looks like the points all have live frogs. Is that right?

Yes, thatís right. Running is normally very good indeed and that includes the big double crossovers. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: JohnN on December 04, 2017, 10:30:19 am
Thanks for the reply. I can begin to appreciate why it is so popupar.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: joe cassidy on December 04, 2017, 10:46:12 am
Those lamps with the frilly shades look a bit "girly" for a man-cave Steve ?
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 04, 2017, 03:16:16 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1490-041217151223.jpeg)

Those lamps with the frilly shades look a bit "girly" for a man-cave Steve ?


Ha! :D  I was hoping nobody would notice ;D  I did have some more manly shades but they perished in the wash - that's what you get when you don't read the instructions :no:


Strangely enough, Gurly downstairs wanted to bin the lamps and shades but <cough!> manly me rescued them for interim layout lighting.  As the above photo shows, the lighting is currently very uneven as I've only fitted a few proper lights down the one end.  So far!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on December 04, 2017, 04:47:35 pm
Re lighting: Dare I suggest dimmable LEDs as an option?

Can add a lot of atmos should you lower the lights but great at full power when you need to work on the layout and no heat.

Guess you know all that already!  :-[

Dave G
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on December 04, 2017, 05:13:24 pm
How do you clean the rails?

I use a C&L Finescale track rubber, theyíre less gritty and abrasive than the Peco ones.  Finish off with a light polish using the nearest cat :no:


Did you have any bother with slightly uneven rail joints?

From time to time, but these can be largely eliminated with careful track laying, as with any brand. If a Kato joint is a persistent problem then thereís something wrong, probably something bent or twisted. These pieces are removed and put in the ďfor cutting upĒ pile.

Many thanks, Steve; that's very helpful.

I sometimes find that the rail surface at the joins is a little uneven during the 'finger test' and have to push the 'Unijoiner' down.  Perhaps I need to be more careful when laying track.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on December 04, 2017, 08:04:34 pm

Strangely enough, Gurly downstairs wanted to bin the lamps and shades but <cough!> manly me rescued them for interim layout lighting.

Was she after 50 shades of grey rather than 2 shades of cream? ;) :-X
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: keithbythe sea on December 05, 2017, 07:05:54 am
Great video Steve,  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 05, 2017, 08:47:53 am
Re lighting: Dare I suggest dimmable LEDs as an option?

Course you can, mate, of course you can :D

Most of the lights in the house are LED and controllable via tablets and phones - I do like my gadgets :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 05, 2017, 08:49:12 am
Was she after 50 shades of grey rather than 2 shades of cream? ;) :-X

Behave yourself  ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on December 05, 2017, 08:50:50 am
Thinking the exact thing here in Oz.

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on December 05, 2017, 08:52:13 am
However, exactly what gadgets do you like....?  ;D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 05, 2017, 09:03:26 am
However, exactly what gadgets do you like....?  ;D

I wouldnít be where I am today without the Molesworth-Peason Electronik Brane :no:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on December 05, 2017, 09:45:40 am
Thank you, even though I have no idea what you're talking about!  :beers:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 05, 2017, 09:55:19 am
Thank you, even though I have no idea what you're talking about!  :beers:

No worries.  It's what the internet is all about :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: joe cassidy on December 05, 2017, 10:17:35 am
Are we talking Gerald Scarfe here ?

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 05, 2017, 10:39:17 am
Are we talking Gerald Scarfe here ?

Not quite, the illustrations were by Ronald Searle.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=n6cFjmfa2kYC&pg=PT326&lpg=PT326&dq=moleworth+peason+brane&source=bl&ots=5R9Pnd5P9n&sig=VA788h3ROP6CDj9nzsCnHc6FvLc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjimoX-1fLXAhWROsAKHYgoBB0Q6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=moleworth%20peason%20brane&f=false (https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=n6cFjmfa2kYC&pg=PT326&lpg=PT326&dq=moleworth+peason+brane&source=bl&ots=5R9Pnd5P9n&sig=VA788h3ROP6CDj9nzsCnHc6FvLc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjimoX-1fLXAhWROsAKHYgoBB0Q6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=moleworth%20peason%20brane&f=false)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: joe cassidy on December 05, 2017, 10:43:50 am
That's what I was thinking of - "I hate skool" and St. Trinians
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 06, 2017, 12:58:12 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/1490-061217125431.jpeg)

New gadget alert.  A Panasonic HX-A1M action camera which just fits within my loading gauge.  Should be able to get clearer videos from now on :thumbsup:

Good old Santa.  Much better than the Dignitas gift tokens I had last year :uneasy:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Skyline2uk on December 06, 2017, 01:16:09 pm
 
Quote
Good old Santa.  Much better than the Dignitas gift tokens I had last year :uneasy:

:laughabovepost:

Surely not Santa?! Were you just a bad boy and had Krampus visit?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on December 06, 2017, 01:17:22 pm
Look forward to seeing the results.

Impressive bit of kit that's a bit wider than the wagon. Will it go through the 'usual' size tunnel portals OK?  :hmmm:

Dave G
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on December 06, 2017, 03:24:46 pm
Look forward to seeing the results.


Me too. Can we know how much it was as I can't take too much out of my one way ticket to Switzerland fund? :no:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 06, 2017, 03:52:45 pm
Look forward to seeing the results.

Impressive bit of kit that's a bit wider than the wagon. Will it go through the 'usual' size tunnel portals OK?  :hmmm:

Dave G

Itíll go through mine, which is what counts!  :D
Theyíre made by Greenmax and Iíd class them as quite small.  I havenít got anything Peco or similar, Iím afraid.

It also goes through stations without hitting the canopy and passes under OH wire portals, etc.  I made sure of this by watching other peopleís videos on YouTube. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 06, 2017, 03:55:03 pm
Me too. Can we know how much it was as I can't take too much out of my one way ticket to Switzerland fund? :no:

£179 from KK Electronics on Amazon, turned up in 48 hours :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on December 06, 2017, 04:14:17 pm
Well, we're waiting...
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on December 06, 2017, 04:37:57 pm
Me too. Can we know how much it was as I can't take too much out of my one way ticket to Switzerland fund? :no:

£179 from KK Electronics on Amazon, turned up in 48 hours :thumbsup:

Thanks, but I don't think my Dignitas fund is in any danger. Being a tight wad the most I'd spend is about £20 :-[
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Webbo on December 06, 2017, 10:26:00 pm
Very good, Steve. I'll be very much interested in seeing some videos from your new camera.

My SQ8 mini camera has just decided to stop working - I think it is the Li-ion battery that has died. I've just ordered two replacement batteries for my camera for £1.2 with free postage as well as another SQ8 for £7.1 also with free postage. Not nearly as many shekels as yours, but I'd rather pay a fair bit more and get quality, reliability as well as more control as I'm sure yours has.

Webbo
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 07, 2017, 08:55:17 am
Well, we're waiting...

Sorry, youíll be waiting a while longer as Iím tracklaying and the circuit is currently broken :goggleeyes:

Iíve given the new camera a couple of tests by pushing it along the track, however, and the results look very good indeed. The swirling fog of artefacts the previous camera had is noticeably absent.  A lot more detail is visible and, although not SLR quality, the image is great for something that will squeeze into N gauge corners :thumbsup:

This should last me a few years I imagine. The old Branor one is coming up for 5 years old so I certainly had my moneyís worth there! 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Webbo on December 07, 2017, 09:21:30 am
Steve,

I'm very much looking forward to you getting your circles in order. Let's have a look at this new machine of yours at the earliest opportunity.

Webbo
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on December 07, 2017, 10:47:07 am
Trust it won't be too long - to wait that is!

Hoping that I will have a go at another video at some point.

Think I'll stick with my cheapo camera though. A decent one will show up all the poor workmanship along the route.   :worried:

Dave G
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 08, 2017, 07:30:51 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1490-081217191431.jpeg)

Resisting the temptation to go out and build snowpersons, I've pressed on with the down end of the fiddle yard where everything had previously been temporary using Kato track straight out of the box.

With suitable cutting and bending, various routes are now taking their final shape.  The down main (beneath the metal weights while the Copydex dries) curves in gently to the double crossover in the distance, where it joins the exit from the goods lines to the left - still work in progress.

The rightmost line (next to the Copydex pot) is the up main and will be tackled next.  A similar gentle curve will replace the sharper set-track piece that's there at the moment and join the tracks in the distance to the right of the double crossover.

My original plan calls for the area where the push-pins are holding the cork in place to be in a short tunnel and this is still on the cards.  I'm thinking cut-and-cover like the east end of Birmingham New Street where the tracks fan out into the station from beneath the road.

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 09, 2017, 12:22:54 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1490-091217122056.jpeg)

"The whole thing's coned-off but no-one's doing any work!"
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: mika on December 09, 2017, 12:28:27 pm
 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on December 09, 2017, 01:58:23 pm
We've bits of the M5 looking like that for months!

Well, almost; not quite so many nice colours!  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Mito on December 09, 2017, 09:01:55 pm
I get coned off at times and go on strike. :)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 10, 2017, 11:42:37 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1490-101217113949.jpeg)

The coned-off area has been ballasted and should soon be returned to normal traffic, weather permitting.

Now, back to the TV as I'm desperate to know what wellies Meghan wears... :no:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 14, 2017, 09:08:46 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1490-141217090437.jpeg)

Well I'd hoped to have finished off all fiddle yard tracklaying by now and been making a few videos, but the snowy weather has shown the flaw in my "Just In Time" logistics.  I'm out of ballast and two sorts of adhesive - where's that post-person got to? :'(
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on December 14, 2017, 10:14:59 am
This is what happens when you live beyond the reaches of civilisation...  :P
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 14, 2017, 10:32:15 am
 :hellosign: Hope normal service is resumed soon Steve, no snow down here just very wet & very windy
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 17, 2017, 03:07:29 pm
This is what happens when you live beyond the reaches of civilisation...  :P

Quite.  I note that even Telford's ski centre closed due to the snow and ice :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 17, 2017, 03:12:22 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1490-171217150538.jpeg)

Good grief, this Christmas malarkey doesn't half consume valuable modelling time!

I've still managed to stick to my "do something on the layout every day" rule but haven't managed the hours I would have liked.  Still, the Up Main is now fixed in place and ballasted except for a couple of inches where Things Went Wrong - now rectified with nails and epoxy holding the wayward joint in line.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on December 17, 2017, 04:21:36 pm
There's a lot to be said for nails and epoxy, Steve.  I think I saw your hammer in an earlier post.  An essential tool for precision nails 'n' epoxy work.

By the way, hasn't the G-WR made effective use of nails (and maybe epoxy) where 'Things Went Wrong' with their embankments?  So your approach has complete prototypical fidelity.  Cutting edge ProtoNails modelling.

Time to go...

All the best.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 17, 2017, 05:10:48 pm
There's a lot to be said for nails and epoxy, Steve.  I think I saw your hammer in an earlier post.  An essential tool for precision nails 'n' epoxy work.

Four different 'ommers, me, and no micrometer - tells you all you need to know ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on December 17, 2017, 09:53:17 pm
Only four?

You big girl you.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 19, 2017, 12:50:31 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1490-191217124245.jpeg)

Ballast now complete throughout the goods sidings part of the fiddle yard.  Some unballasted areas between the running lines have been left to give flexibility with the positioning of bridge piers, etc.

BUT...

Wiring it all up after vacuuming off the excess ballast this morning I noted a run of 5 turnouts with only 4 pairs of dropper wires.  The one by the full brake is electrically dead :veryangry:

So it's a choice between lifting the point or doing some invasive above baseboard soldering.  Large chickens are up in fleet quantities, complete with a side order of similarly rising spheres. :censored:

It wasn't me.  A big boy did it then ran off :doh:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on December 19, 2017, 01:26:56 pm
Oh yeah? Heard that one before, Tut!!  :D

Far from appearing smug, that's one of my multiple excuses for not finishing the ballasting as I know I will discover additional electrickery gremlins lurking.

Hope getting the thing sorted isn't too painful.

dave G
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2017, 02:26:53 pm
Hopefully you will get it all sorted without too much trouble.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on December 19, 2017, 02:57:44 pm

Wiring it all up after vacuuming off the excess ballast this morning I noted a run of 5 turnouts with only 4 pairs of dropper wires.  The one by the full brake is electrically dead :veryangry:

So it's a choice between lifting the point or doing some invasive above baseboard soldering.  Large chickens are up in fleet quantities, complete with a side order of similarly rising spheres. :censored:

It wasn't me.  A big boy did it then ran off :doh:

Bad luck!  I hope you get it fixed without too much annoyance.

PS Probably best to lift the point, Steve.  It'll be good practice and will hone your technique for the time when a point fails in due course.

All the very best.

John

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: railsquid on December 19, 2017, 04:23:18 pm
This is why I'm cunningly building my layout (using Tomix track rather than Kato, but the principle's the same) so that pretty much any section of track can be removed without too much hassle.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 19, 2017, 10:03:25 pm


OK.  Another quick and dirty cab-ride video.  I was waiting until I'd sorted my current round of layout tasks before doing another, but today's gremlins and Christmas mean that's slipped further into the future :(

So, because playing train driver will make me feel better about things, here it is.  2 runs - fairly basic camera tests with minimal captioning.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Webbo on December 20, 2017, 03:54:06 am
I agree, train driving - good therapy.

The camera produces nice sharp, bright images with good focus right up close to the camera. I suppose the slight downside of the great big depth of field is the fish-eye camera effect.

Looks like you're going to have fun with this camera.

Webbo
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Bealman on December 20, 2017, 05:05:44 am
A really crisp clear picture! That's a good camera!

And I love the ornate station lamps, by the way  ;D ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on December 20, 2017, 07:16:59 am
Looking really good.  :thumbsup:

Dave G

Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: keithbythe sea on December 20, 2017, 07:43:08 am
Great video Steve. Very clear and steady, good camera (and operator)  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 20, 2017, 09:27:54 am
Thank you, one and all!

I suppose the slight downside of the great big depth of field is the fish-eye camera effect.

I must admit fish-eye is one of the things I most dislike in an image and the primary reason I've put off buying this camera (or others) for so long.  Unfortunately it seems de-rigueur in the action-cam market to have 360 degree vision to prove to your mates you didn't soil yourself during your latest death-defying stunt :no:

I decided in the end that the Panasonic was the best I was going to get for now and I can always upgrade in a year or two if something better comes along.  Things are already better in OO/HO, but with the smaller size of N choices are limited.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on December 20, 2017, 10:26:11 am
Seeing your avatar on the post, and having watched the vid, am I right in saying that's your much less scary looking twin operating the train? ;D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 20, 2017, 10:55:55 am
Itís just a lot longer since the prostate exam ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on December 20, 2017, 11:33:40 am
Itís just a lot longer since the prostate exam ;)
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 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing: :moony: :ouch: :worried:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on December 21, 2017, 09:08:18 pm
That's an excellent film, Steve.  Thank you very much.

The Down Slow - Platform 4 - Down Main sequence rather reminded me of the present-day Haymarket.

Apart from the unrebuilt 'MN' of course!

I am tempted to try to overcome my technological buffoonery and try something like this.  It's a good way to view a layout.  A good way to view a 1:1 railway as well!

Thanks again and best wishes.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 23, 2017, 02:42:24 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1490-231217143920.jpeg)

... and a happy Christmas to me!  I only ordered this little lot yesterday, expecting delivery after Christmas, so gold star service from both Hattons and Royal Mail there :thumbsup:

Have a peaceful and happy Christmas, everyone :beers:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 24, 2017, 10:00:42 am
I wish you the same. Excellent presents: a very nice selection of BR SR coaching stock and a matching horsebox as well as a pair of LMR "Speedfreight" containers on Conflats. The BR Standard BCK (top left) is identical to those that can be seen at Cant Cove and Trepol Bay on Waterloo services so can it be bringing some Cornish guests? Whilst the horsebox can be conveying some of Lord Trevelver's thoroughbreds? The Maunsell design brake end coach (middle right) would, normally, be working with at least a similar brake end coach but, I guess, it is a preserved one?
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 24, 2017, 11:53:32 am
Oh for the day when the layout has the ability to receive travellers from Cornwall or indeed anywhere else! Hopefully the new year will see Phase II sprout*, something for the scenic fiddle yard to connect to :)

And you can never have too many BR(S) brakes  :thumbsup:


* Well, it is Christmas...
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: ptopo on December 24, 2017, 10:07:11 pm
great footage and pretty smooth over the points, thanks for the tips on cameras.... And for one of the best gags so far in the history of the forum....

One major question is raised by your attire though - what did you make of The Last Jedi.

Very best wishes

PT
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 28, 2017, 10:15:23 am
One major question is raised by your attire though - what did you make of The Last Jedi.

I've not seen it as yet - waiting for the release of the HD download 8)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 28, 2017, 10:16:48 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1490-281217100721.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1490-281217100805.jpeg)


Well, I'm very impressed!  Both by the size of the bridge for the money and the speed of delivery.  I ordered it from Japan/ebay on 22nd December for £31.34 inc (free) postage and it turned up this morning :thumbsup:

I'm intending to use it as a roadbridge in roughly the location shown, it has a bit of the London Paddington about it, or Bristol Temple Meads, or Newport, or ...
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: JohnN on December 28, 2017, 11:06:33 am
That's a fine looking addition to the layout. And a bit of a bargain too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: port perran on December 28, 2017, 11:08:28 am
Looks really good.
Not so sure about the instructions on the box though!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: railsquid on December 28, 2017, 11:43:39 am
Looks really good.
Not so sure about the instructions on the box though!

No problem  :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: daveg on December 28, 2017, 12:31:53 pm
Looks really good.
Not so sure about the instructions on the box though!

No problem  :D

We now have confirmation in writing that Squiddy is *The Man* to aid with translating the Tomix catalogue and assembly instructions!  :D

So very grateful.

Happy New Year! :toot:

Dave G
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: railsquid on December 28, 2017, 01:03:40 pm
Looks really good.
Not so sure about the instructions on the box though!

No problem  :D

We now have confirmation in writing that Squiddy is *The Man* to aid with translating the Tomix catalogue and assembly instructions!  :D

So very grateful.

It's no secret  :beers:

Happy New Year! :toot:


"あけましておめでとうございます" as they say hereabouts ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on December 28, 2017, 07:15:23 pm

I'm intending to use it as a roadbridge in roughly the location shown, it has a bit of the London Paddington about it, or Bristol Temple Meads, or Newport, or ...

...Peterborough?

It looks great on your excellent layout.

All the best.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 28, 2017, 09:02:03 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1490-281217205606.jpeg)

It's that bridge again :wave:

After trying it in various positions :goggleeyes: it still looks best in the location I bought it for.  Now there's a first! 8)

I can see this view being a popular photo vantage point in the future, imagine a pacific storming under the bridge rather than a slightly out-of-focus coach.  Unfortunately the camera position is exactly where another (smaller) bridge is planned so I'll have to make the latter removable.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: keithbythe sea on December 29, 2017, 08:01:47 am
Very good looking bridge Steve.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 30, 2017, 02:28:21 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1490-301217142120.jpeg)

Well, after a few days of little jobs with soldering irons and paintbrushes, I'm back to the trackbed.

Phase II has officially kicked off today, with the first piece of curved baseboard fixed in place - a few lengths of temporary track at this position previously gave a place for the camera car to start but now it's time to get serious!

The track will be on a slight rising grade to the left, taking the main lines around the short end of the room and then back along the left hand wall passing some carriage sidings on a slightly lower level.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: port perran on December 30, 2017, 02:40:02 pm
That electric screwdriver looks just like mine.
Iíll just pop upstairs to see if mineís still there  :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 30, 2017, 02:41:10 pm
That electric screwdriver looks just like mine.
Iíll just pop upstairs to see if mineís still there  :D

 :D :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on December 30, 2017, 05:17:39 pm
That electric screwdriver looks just like mine.
Iíll just pop upstairs to see if mineís still there  :D
You shouldn't have given him a warning - he had time to put it back!  :doh:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 31, 2017, 12:49:07 am
 :hellosign: Thanks for the updates Steve, the Tomix bridge is very impressive
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 01, 2018, 11:42:43 am
I've been struck down by the dreaded lurgie for the past few days.  Although this has diminished my enthusiasm for model railway progress in general I have, surprisingly, painted a fair bit of track.  I found it strangely therapeutic when clouds of cotton wool seemed to be running riot in my head.

Now I'm four days behind with the turkey leftovers :(
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: JohnN on January 01, 2018, 11:47:50 am
Sorry to hear you've been struck by the lurgie. I think I've been fighting it too but it hasn't developed thankfully.

Time for a turkey curry to help clear the nose maybe?  ;)  :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: chrispearce on January 01, 2018, 11:59:25 am
 :( Get well soon chaps and Happy New Year's Day.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Mito on January 01, 2018, 06:00:26 pm
Time for a turkey curry to help clear the nose maybe?  ;)  :D

The hotter the better. does wonders for getting rid of colds and flu. Medically proven too :food: :)
Hope you're over it quickly.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: port perran on January 01, 2018, 07:08:47 pm
You and me too.
The lurgy struck both of us on Saturday. Feeling quite unwell but hopefully the worst is now over.
That feeling of cotton wool between the ears is quite unreal.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 01, 2018, 09:15:25 pm
Wishing you all a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Buffin on January 02, 2018, 08:36:54 pm
Better make sure my virus checker is working then.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 03, 2018, 08:13:26 am
Better make sure my virus checker is working then.

Minesnot ;)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 03, 2018, 01:51:48 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1490-030118134812.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1490-030118134957.jpeg)


Post!  Tomytec Building 136 (Warehouse A) for £17.45 plus postage from ebay/PlazaJapan.  (They also do a windowed version as an engine shed which is Building 122-2)

I've bought a couple of these specifically to steal the side walls for low-relief backscene items.  A quick test snap behind a recently chipped Farish 4F shows they're bang on the money for what I had in mind.  I've left the roof off as it's thicker than a nuclear bunker :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on January 03, 2018, 02:55:10 pm
Steve - does the kit come with one end open or have you 'doctored' it please?
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 03, 2018, 03:02:02 pm
Steve - does the kit come with one end open or have you 'doctored' it please?

Undoctored, it was literally just out of the box. Both ends have 3 open arches but door and infill pieces are included to give the result shown on the packaging.

The basic 4 wall structure is a one piece moulding, which I wasnít expecting!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 07, 2018, 10:47:51 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1490-070118104207.jpeg)

Yesterday I fitted a DCC decoder to a second Kato DD51 and the opportunity to double head was too much to resist.  Cue several hours running trains of all eras and nationalities :thumbsup:

I had started swapping the last batch of points from manual to DCC control but the electrothingummy box, although wired in and working, still seems to be sitting there on the baseboard next to the levers :-[
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: railsquid on January 07, 2018, 11:26:55 am

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1490-030118134957.jpeg[/url])


Post!  Tomytec Building 136 (Warehouse A) for £17.45 plus postage from ebay/PlazaJapan.  (They also do a windowed version as an engine shed which is Building 122-2)

I've bought a couple of these specifically to steal the side walls for low-relief backscene items.  A quick test snap behind a recently chipped Farish 4F shows they're bang on the money for what I had in mind.


Good heavens, now that is a potentially useful source of brickwork for the future British part of my layout, I would never have thought of that.

Prototype is this structure (http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~pb3i-itkr/itoken/itokent1.htm), now unfortunately "preserved" as it was in the way of the new Shinkansen line (see last picture).

I've left the roof off as it's thicker than a nuclear bunker :goggleeyes:


Given the proximity to Lil' Rocketman Kim I could put that to good use too...
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Yet_Another on January 07, 2018, 11:35:31 am

Prototype is this structure ([url]http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~pb3i-itkr/itoken/itokent1.htm[/url]), now unfortunately "preserved" as it was in the way of the new Shinkansen line (see last picture).


Ouch! It was all going so well until that last picture.  :doh:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 08, 2018, 09:00:28 pm
Excellent!  The longer lengths of LED lighting I'm using are back in stock so I've just ordered some :thumbsup:

Unfortunately this might soon see the retirement of my much admired "frilly danglers"  :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 08, 2018, 09:05:54 pm
 :laughabovepost:

Oh....suit you sir.....oh

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Milton Rail on January 09, 2018, 05:07:55 pm
Snap!!  Great little kit, but I know what you mean about the roof!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/50/4934-250317055525-501872480.jpeg)

Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Milton Rail on January 09, 2018, 05:14:57 pm
Thanks too for the background info/pics of the prototype, that was a bonus bit of info
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ben A on January 09, 2018, 06:47:13 pm

Hi Steve,

Nice building, and nice kit too.

The prototype seems to have buttresses between each window panel.  See here:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/94-090118184526-603582435.jpeg)

Does the kit have these too?  The images aren't that clear.  Would make it even better for representing the retaining wall as you plan...

Cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 09, 2018, 07:55:05 pm
Does the kit have these too?  The images aren't that clear.  Would make it even better for representing the retaining wall as you plan...


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1490-090118194836.jpeg)

Ben, everything is markedly flatter and vertical on the kit, but as I wanted something suggestive of lineside factories as opposed to retaining walls that's no bad thing. I was particularly taken with the bricked up windows in this respect.

Having said that, if I came across something that looked like it was holding back tons of earth I could probably find a use for that too!
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 10, 2018, 10:46:57 am
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1490-100118103800.jpeg)

Let there be LEDs!

I had to wait a while for these as they were out of stock and I particularly wanted more of the same - they plug together rather nicely which makes for a very quick fit.

These are 1204mm long "fluorescent tube-like" fittings meant for kitchens and bought from https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LED-LINKABLE-KITCHEN-UNDER-CABINET-STRIP-LIGHTS-LINK-LIGHT-WARM-WHITE-SWITCHED-/311630279782 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LED-LINKABLE-KITCHEN-UNDER-CABINET-STRIP-LIGHTS-LINK-LIGHT-WARM-WHITE-SWITCHED-/311630279782) at £20.99 each.

I'll be fitting them soon, but first need to run round the house doing Star Wars light sabre impressions until I'm told "GO TO YOUR ROOM AND PLAY WITH YOUR TRAINS!"

It's traditional in this house :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ian Morton on January 10, 2018, 12:48:13 pm
How do you fit the frilly lampshades to them?  :confused2:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 10, 2018, 01:14:14 pm
How do you fit the frilly lampshades to them?  :confused2:

Jedis don't do frilly.  Not even under Walt Disney :no:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: newportnobby on January 10, 2018, 01:56:45 pm
How do you fit the frilly lampshades to them?  :confused2:

Jedis don't do frilly.  Not even under Walt Disney :no:

How do you know what a Jedi wears under their robes?
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: wookie on January 10, 2018, 02:07:01 pm
I'll be fitting them soon, but first need to run round the house doing Star Wars light sabre impressions until I'm told "GO TO YOUR ROOM AND PLAY WITH YOUR TRAINS!"

Pleasing to know I'm not the only nutter in here  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Ben A on January 10, 2018, 10:10:12 pm

Hi Steve,

Yes, the bricked up windows are a nice touch.  The moulding looks very good too - and being Japanese presumably to 1:150 scale?

cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 10, 2018, 10:15:42 pm
I'll be fitting them soon, but first need to run round the house doing Star Wars light sabre impressions until I'm told "GO TO YOUR ROOM AND PLAY WITH YOUR TRAINS!"

Pleasing to know I'm not the only nutter in here  :smiley-laughing:

Oh Wibble, Wibble

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on January 11, 2018, 08:51:13 am
How do you fit the frilly lampshades to them?  :confused2:

Jedis don't do frilly.  Not even under Walt Disney :no:

How do you know what a Jedi wears under their robes?

Writing this from the Down direction of Marshall Meadows, I can only assume that what is worn under robes is the same as what is worn under a kilt.  I have been asked on many occasions and have an answer ready.

Very interesting lights, though, Steve: an illuminating post.

All the best.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 11, 2018, 10:09:14 am

Hi Steve,

Yes, the bricked up windows are a nice touch.  The moulding looks very good too - and being Japanese presumably to 1:150 scale?

cheers

Ben A.

Ben,

Yes, although that may well be just a nominal figure and Iíve no way of telling.  But it looks AOK for itís intended low-relief use and I might end up buying some more :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 13, 2018, 09:02:52 pm
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1490-130118205001.jpeg)

Still pottering away on the fiddle yard.  This shot shows relatively even lighting now extends almost all along this part of the layout, I just need to measure for a shorter tube to fit at the end off to the right.

More cork is pinned down prior to even more ballasting, track painting is well under way and the layout is slowly submerging under assorted bits'n'bobs.  Needs a tidy!



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1490-130118205204.jpeg)

As I hate cleaning air-brushes, I've had a bash with pigments/powders for weathering this time around.  Not quite there, especially where the 'oil' effect has puddled on the sleepers, but showing promise.  This is a section where locos stand so it would be blacker than elsewhere.
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Train Waiting on January 13, 2018, 09:07:44 pm
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1490-130118205001.jpeg[/url])

Still pottering away on the fiddle yard.  This shot shows relatively even lighting now extends almost all along this part of the layout, I just need to measure for a shorter tube to fit at the end off to the right.

More cork is pinned down prior to even more ballasting, track painting is well under way and the layout is slowly submerging under assorted bits'n'bobs.  Needs a tidy!



([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1490-130118205204.jpeg[/url])

As I hate cleaning air-brushes, I've had a bash with pigments/powders for weathering this time around.  Not quite there, especially where the 'oil' effect has puddled on the sleepers, but showing promise.  This is a section where locos stand so it would be blacker than elsewhere.


That looks splendid, Steve.

Your ballasting is excellent and I hope to emulate it.

All best wishes.

John
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Black Sheep on January 17, 2018, 02:40:37 pm
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1490-030118134812.jpeg[/url])

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/1490-030118134957.jpeg[/url])


Post!  Tomytec Building 136 (Warehouse A) for £17.45 plus postage from ebay/PlazaJapan.  (They also do a windowed version as an engine shed which is Building 122-2)

I've bought a couple of these specifically to steal the side walls for low-relief backscene items.  A quick test snap behind a recently chipped Farish 4F shows they're bang on the money for what I had in mind.  I've left the roof off as it's thicker than a nuclear bunker :goggleeyes:


If only I'd known the existence of this shed two days ago!
My depot has been designed to a two road shed.

Anyone got the dimensions and track spacings for this building please? :D
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: Yet_Another on January 17, 2018, 07:39:14 pm
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10279825 (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10279825)
Title: Re: The Capital Lines
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 17, 2018, 10:14:35 pm
[url]http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10279825[/url] ([url]http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10279825[/url])


And the track centre spacing is 36.5mm :thumbsup: