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Project Mallard - Upgrading Mk4 coaches
« on: April 10, 2018, 10:32:04 am »
Hello all and welcome to the NGF thread on my latest project.
The aim of the project is to improve the Farish Mk4s to such an extent that the Dapol Mk3s look comparatively dull in light of the Dapol GNER HSTs almost being here! Throughout the project I intend to:
I) Fit BR Lines Interiors
II)  Close couple the coaches to make the rake more prototypical
III) Fit Gangways, again to make the rake look better
IV) Fit Rapido "Easy-Peasy" lightbars seeing how excellent they are
V)  Fit Passengers
VI) Weather the Underframes and Roofs

Once I am happy with the coaches I shall turn my attention to the DVT, fitting directional and cab lights and possibly add lights to the 91, however, I am happy with how my 91 looks having been detailed.

Updates to come!
Regards,
Philip
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Re: Project Mallard - Upgrading Mk4 coaches
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2018, 10:50:49 am »
Hello,
BR lines interiors have been fitted and a rapido easy peasy light bar has been fitted to the TSOE. I cannot recomend these highly enough as a concept, but the lights do shine through the red doors and stripe on the farish bodyshell. I tried fixing this with Black paint this morning but it still bled light, electrical tape proved to be too thick once the interiors were in so I shall try to fit black cardboard into the bottom of the coaches instead. 
Here is Part I, an excellent way to spend 16 minutes!: https://youtu.be/8OVHDueSHu8

Additional Costs to the Rake so far have been:

1x BR0005 Mk4 First Class coach Interiors (Pack of Four) 3.75
1x BR0006 Mk4 Second Class coach Interiors (Pack of Four) 3.75
379-402 Graham Farish Short Length Nem Couplings (Pack of 20) 6.95
http://brlines.co.uk/other-products/

1x Rapido "Easy Peasy" Passenger Car Lighting 7.50
https://railsofsheffield.com/products/33916/rapido-trains-inc-102021-n-gauge-easy-peasy-passenger-car-lighting.

The total cost so far is 21.95, the next step shall be to find a solution to the light problems, any suggestions are welcome, and fitting gangways.
All the Best,
Philip

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Re: Project Mallard - Upgrading Mk4 coaches
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2018, 10:55:37 am »
Hello for a third time!
I am trying to keep this thread organised!  ;D

As mentioned in the first Part here is the interior of the original GNER first class mk3:



Here is the original Farish TSOE mould:



And the inadequate replacement:



All the Best,
Philip

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Re: Project Mallard - Upgrading Mk4 coaches
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2018, 11:02:49 am »
No NEM coupler pockets on the mk4s surely? They're the old 't-shank' coupler aren't they?

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Re: Project Mallard - Upgrading Mk4 coaches
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2018, 11:10:14 am »
No NEM coupler pockets on the mk4s surely? They're the old 't-shank' coupler aren't they?

Sadly not, did farish ever make "short" 'T-Shank' couplers? If not I'll scratchbuild!
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Re: Project Mallard - Upgrading Mk4 coaches
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2018, 11:13:13 am »
Not honestly sure, but 3DR Designs do 3D printed ones here or there are semi permanent coupler options, like these.

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Re: Project Mallard - Upgrading Mk4 coaches
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2018, 11:20:23 am »
@G_N_E_R
Hi Phillip
Im very interested to see how this goes. I dont think I could justify the light bars but fitting seats makes a big difference to the internal look. Looking forward to the finished article as I have about 20 of the things to do.

Cheers
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Re: Project Mallard - Upgrading Mk4 coaches
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2018, 04:20:46 pm »
No NEM coupler pockets on the mk4s surely? They're the old 't-shank' coupler aren't they?

Sadly not, did farish ever make "short" 'T-Shank' couplers? If not I'll scratchbuild!
Regards,
Philip

DCC Supplies stock Dapol Rapido's that have a shorter shank in pairs. I have tried them with Mk1's and the gap reduction is good. You can use 2 short or one short and 1 long as required.

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Re: Project Mallard - Upgrading Mk4 coaches
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2018, 05:16:47 pm »
Those are NEM though, aren't they?

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Re: Project Mallard - Upgrading Mk4 coaches
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2018, 06:17:37 pm »
Depending on how close you want to get to the Mallard specification you might find this useful

https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.com/contentassets/6f9fe35378ad482199b8843b2f7c572a/vtec84_mallard_2017_dl_v3.pdf

The only thing, I think, that Virgin did to the interiors was to fit new seat covers so everything else should date from the GNER refurbishment.

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Re: Project Mallard - Upgrading Mk4 coaches
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2018, 06:19:19 pm »
Those are NEM though, aren't they?

The ones I used were not NEM couplers.

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Re: Project Mallard - Upgrading Mk4 coaches
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2018, 07:01:56 pm »
The only thing, I think, that Virgin did to the interiors was to fit new seat covers so everything else should date from the GNER refurbishment.
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Thank you! I'm still not sure quite how I'll do the interiors but will base them on the Mallard ones, as to NEM couplings I shall have a look once the Gangways are fitted, semi-permanent might be the best option, or to create my own which would be fun!
Regards,
Philip

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Re: Project Mallard - Upgrading Mk4 coaches
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2018, 09:49:58 am »
Those 3D printed couplings look like a pretty useful solution. I definitely don't need 100, so if anyone else wanted to split a set, I'd be interested.

 

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