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Author Topic: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale  (Read 3453 times)

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #105 on: April 14, 2018, 07:49:02 pm »
Grubunden buildings

Has anybody out there got any ideas on what sort of architecture predominates around the RhB? I know I can buy loads of twee Swiss chalets and stuff similar but I honestly doubt that's an everyday thing. Can anybody point to a Faller/Kibri/Vollmer etc building or buildings I can use for normal houses and shops?

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #106 on: April 15, 2018, 01:05:46 pm »
Grubunden buildings

Has anybody out there got any ideas on what sort of architecture predominates around the RhB? I know I can buy loads of twee Swiss chalets and stuff similar but I honestly doubt that's an everyday thing. Can anybody point to a Faller/Kibri/Vollmer etc building or buildings I can use for normal houses and shops?

Thanks in Advance,

Mike Beard.

In my layout exhibition blurb and my article in Continental Modeller I explained that my layouts I try and avoid the 'chocolate box' cliched Switzerland because in many cases, the architecture in CH is very much not chocolate box.

Like all of Swizterland, in GR old architecture  is regional, 20th century architecture is often not region specific

Famously the Swiss don't seem to care about putting hideous new stuff in amongst

An example I know well is here: https://goo.gl/maps/jnTkNjirY3L2

Famously on the RhB there are some orange box houses near Bonaduz:
https://goo.gl/maps/oLqYEtaHS9u

Apart from that I'm going to say try google streeet view or  :searchingsign:
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #107 on: April 15, 2018, 01:09:33 pm »
RhB Catenary

Right, I'm not going to get over-pedantic about the overhead, or lack there of but who makes the closest to RhB masts and spans?

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Discussed on this forum extensively some time ago

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #108 on: April 15, 2018, 01:54:56 pm »
Wots chocolate box?  :hmmm:
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #109 on: April 15, 2018, 03:05:52 pm »
RhB Catenary

Right, I'm not going to get over-pedantic about the overhead, or lack there of but who makes the closest to RhB masts and spans?

thanks,

Mike Beard

Discussed on this forum extensively some time ago

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Well, I did try searching but I found nothing relevent so I was hoping for a pointer. I was obviously somewhat over confident in others help.

I'll carefully consider if I really want to keep posting here, perhaps I'm better off keeping it to myself.

Mike Beard.

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #110 on: April 15, 2018, 03:09:51 pm »
Wots chocolate box?  :hmmm:


Dictionary def:

ADJECTIVE

British
(of a view or picture) pretty in a conventional or idealized way.
‘chocolate-box cottages lining narrow streets’

Often used on... er.. chocolate boxes in the UK in days gone by.

And, still retaining the Swiss theme - just  ;) - the excellent Swiss brand Lindt still uphold the tradition at times:




 - a Swiss scene you can still see for real , but usually not without a few cars, an office block or a few other less attractive buildings - and some graffiti of course!
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #111 on: April 15, 2018, 03:16:33 pm »
RhB Catenary

Right, I'm not going to get over-pedantic about the overhead, or lack there of but who makes the closest to RhB masts and spans?

thanks,

Mike Beard

Discussed on this forum extensively some time ago

 :searchingsign:

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Well, I did try searching but I found nothing relevent so I was hoping for a pointer. I was obviously somewhat over confident in others help.

I'll carefully consider if I really want to keep posting here, perhaps I'm better off keeping it to myself.

Mike Beard.

I'm surprised you found nothing relevant, as a Google image search for 'Graubünden Architecture' , amongst similar search criteria, reveals a whole host of useful results. (And aptly illustrates Gordon's point about juxtaposition of styles in Switzerland where beautiful decorated houses can stand beside brutalist concrete.)

As does the cab ride videos of the district I mentioned some months back.
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #112 on: April 15, 2018, 03:48:48 pm »
The problem with "Graubünden Architecture" is that it throws up so many beautiful buildings, not the mediochre of everyday living and working which is what I'm looking for. "Graubünden Architecture" is as atypical of the way average people live is as looking at the Royal Family and drawing conclusions from that. I'm really looking for the equivalents of the English post-war semi or its detached equivalent.

As to the reply on RhB catenary the inference is that somebody knows where and when it was discussed on the N Gauge Forum but is unprepared to assist in finding where that is. As I said I'm not looking for 100% accuracy, just similar is enough.

Obviously the way forward is to cover the layout in Chocolate Box, ancient and modern and Greenmax catenary. I don't think so.

Mike Beard.
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #113 on: April 15, 2018, 04:14:12 pm »
As I stated
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...... amongst similar search criteria, reveals a whole host of useful results.

Try a few similar related searches, as I did, such as 'Graubunden houses' which give, IMO, exactly what you are looking for.

And as extra inspiration, I would recommend the MITV series of films produced by Sue Knight (Harnett) and Chris Harnett,. They are now retired and their site only remains for info, but the films themselves are probably still available through the Swiss Railway Society. They are all recorded in the 80's and 90's and give a clear view of the tracks, the rolling stock,the buildings, and, if it helps, the catenary. From such sources it is easy to judge which of the catenary manufacturers produce something close to what is shown. None will be perfect, but some are better than others. It's all a matter, as in all things, of personal preference and choice.

Search here for 'catenary' to find what Gordon refers to, and on Google for the n scale catenary makers, such as Dapol, NBrass, and Veissmann.
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #114 on: April 15, 2018, 11:08:22 pm »
RhB Catenary


Why don't you use the search option ?    ;)  (just kidding)

I googeld this RhB Oberleitung and up came this.

Sommerfeldt GmbH could be an option to scratch something.

AB-Modell as well.

Or just build your own out of brass profiles in 1/150 ! The problem with most Swiss ones available is they are in 1/160 scale.

Then there's this one: RhB Modellbahn.com

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #115 on: April 16, 2018, 10:45:47 am »
RhB Catenary

Thank you Steve, helpful as ever,

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #116 on: April 16, 2018, 11:08:13 am »
Folks, you are enjoying a niche chapter on the forum here.

Please don't start infighting!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #117 on: April 16, 2018, 11:54:49 am »
If we were face to face it wouldn't occur, but we're not so we can't see each others faces so it happens.

I suspect we are all old and grouchy as well which does not help.

In the round we're OK though,

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #118 on: May 14, 2018, 09:18:43 am »
nearly ready for first print - RhB TM 2/2 (92) to fit Tomytec HM-01 chassis:


Very quick paint job to see what it looks like - no glazing, need to paint the chassis weights black, didn't clean up the wax properly. As usual, the photo makes the 3D printed surface look far worse than it is in reality (I normally matt varnish to counteract the 3d print artefacts).

Needed some fettling around the coupler slots (leading to the crack that is visible  :veryangry:) and adjustment of some detail depth (side grills didn't come out well originally).

Body and chassis sides just clip fit.

This is actually quiet a powerful little beast (body is only 30mm long) - easily hauls 3 wagons.

Now waiting for second one from shapeways to be delivered to create a finished version.



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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #119 on: May 14, 2018, 10:27:38 am »
This is a fine little creation.  Looking forward to seeing the next version for how well the 3D production marks can be reduced.
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