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Author Topic: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)  (Read 2626 times)

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2017, 08:12:28 pm »
For a ladder of points in a fiddle yard there's no issue. I also used them on a single slip on my old layout.

Was thinking more of parallel tracks with crossovers, I found it hard to fit all my servos in on a 4-track line with a few consecutive or parallel crossovers, but sounds like they’re probably sufficiently versatile you can make it work.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2017, 02:33:39 am »
Good progress today as I had all morning to concentrate on trains.

Got the North end of North Western finished apart from one headshunt, and got as far as making a start on the bay platforms before I finished for the day.

I ran out of insulating joiners, so I salvaged quite a few from the old layout to keep me going until my next goodie bag arrives from Hattons.

Here's a few pictures.



Eventually more of the XPS shown above will be cut away and a road overbridge slid underneath the tracks.





Just 1.5 days to get trains running.

Regards,

John P

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2017, 03:34:30 am »
So just half a day left to get some teains running.

Here’s the latest track work.

Bay platform tracks in place.



Almost done with the southern station approach tracks



Regards,

John P

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2017, 06:57:45 pm »
Trains are running for my grandson!!!!



OK so I cheated.

This one is fun as well.



Merry Christmas everyone.

John P

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2018, 11:49:51 pm »
Finally managed to get back to the shop this weekend.

There was far too much other stuff to do, mainly playing with the grandkids toys, and my sons new drone, to get anything done over Christmas.

Today I made a lot of progress with the tracks down to Wallgate.

Here’s some pics.

Junction with WCML


Tracks heading under Wallgate.



Tracks through station area



Regards,

John P






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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2018, 03:26:18 am »
I have finally got around to finishing all the trackwork on the scenic section.

Here are a few pictures.

Wallgate Bay platform



Looking towards Kirby/Southport



A little more work done on the WCML so that a bridge deck can be put in place. Once that is done I can make a start on superelevating the curve here.



Of course now I've got to this stage I have realised that some key features are missing.

First there is no way for Wigan bound trains to access the bay at Wallgate as there is no crossover. In real life there is a crossover on the Kriby line just West of the WCML bridge and after the junction with the Southport line. I'm just going to add a crossover.

At North Western there is a similar issue with the bay platforms and the pointwork allowing trDDown slowains to leave the WCML and access the old L&Y at Wallgate.
Currently the only access is from the Up slow line (ie towards London). This correct as the ladder crossing which gets trains from the down slow across the fast lines and to the Up slow is much further south. I assume that this ladder was originally used by the Liverpool Wigan trains which used to terminate in the bay. Nowadays after some resignalling these trains terminate at Platform 6 which is on the down slow line, thus avoiding crossing the main line.

I have just looked closer and there is also a burrowing junction just south of Springs branch which freights can use.

There is one freight path, which is a binliner from Wilton to the Knowsley Freight terminal, which is a spur off the Kirkby line.

These trains run through Man Oxford Rd, and then on the Old L&M as far as Parkside Junction where they join the WCML and then cross over to take the line through Wallgate to Kirkby.

So I also need to add the provision for freights to get across the main line to access the line to Kirkby.

But before I do that I plan on doing some extensive test running, on the track already laid. Next tasks are to wire up all the power feeds and to get some locos running.

Once I'm happy with all the track then more baseboards can be constructed to give me a continuous run and a fiddle yard.

Regards,

John P


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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2018, 07:59:20 am »
Just caught up with is thread. Very impressive space John and cracking pace with progress to date. You will have a lot of scenery to create, need a very big terraforming team!  :thankyousign:

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2018, 08:39:35 am »
This is looking fabulous, John.  I have travelled to Wigan (on business!) on many occasions and this is all starting to look very familiar.  I have used both stations, but, mostly, North Western.

All best wishes.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2018, 09:28:36 am »
Looking good John - did you get any answers on your junction layout question on RMWeb?

Not sure if you're familiar with Raildar, but it has some fairly user friendly diagrams which at least show direction, and some annotation on fast/slow lines: Here, also shows where all the passenger trains are.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2018, 02:55:05 pm »
I got loads of useful info from the various train drivers on RMWEB. The sectional appendix is the business. It makes modelling a real location much easier.
I haven't tried Raildar yet but there is another website they recommended called opentraintimes, which looks pretty good.

Thanks,

John P

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2018, 03:08:09 pm »
These websites are the business!!!

Looking at the Wigan section of the opentraintimes map showed 660Y approaching Wallgate from the Hindley line.

Hurrah! The Wilton binliner is now using the Man Vic to Atherton line to get to Wallgate rather than the old L&M and then the WCML.

I wonder if driver route learning was the issue, because AFAIK there have been no freights on the old L&Y main between Manchester and Wigan for a number of years.

Regards,

John P

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #41 on: February 26, 2018, 07:35:19 pm »
Testing has started!

It's been a bit cold here recently so a second heater had been installed in the shed.



I've wired up[ my Z21 and tested out some track with 2 loco's.





I'm going to slowly work round all the track sections and point motors to ensure that everything is working well. After that I'll need more baseboards to put in a continuous run plus storage sidings.

Regards,

John P

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2018, 03:03:18 am »
Got an hour in the shop today.

Wired up my first point to an NCE Switch 8 and got it working. Used the Tortoise switch to switch the polarity of the frog.

I also tested out my 2 new Cl68’s on DC, and they are superb.

Finally I added some storage sidings to my plan, these will be added once I’ve finished testing the app existing track.

Here’s the revised plan



Regards,

John P

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2018, 03:19:28 am »
A mammoth project which is coming along splendidly.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2018, 12:17:18 pm »
wow that trackwork looks impressive. 

 

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