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Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« on: November 23, 2017, 07:26:00 pm »
OK

The first phase of the plan is done. So now I have the task of getting something up and running by December 21st!!

First some essentials:

A workbench with a kettle!




A fridge for milk and, who knows, maybe some adult beverages, as the Americans would say.




Then I need to get all this tidied up and on to shelves and out of the way






I plan on re-using my baseboard frames, but not necessarily the MDF boards themselves.

All the points and will be salvaged for re-use. The track will be put to use when the fiddle yards are built. All the new track will be Peco Code 55 Concrete.

All points are long radius Electrofrog with Tortoise Point motors.

DCC control with a Z21 and NCE Switch 8's for point control. Frog Juicers will be used for crossings and any reverse loops. (I know there aren't any reverse loops in the plan yet).

I'm looking at alternative baseboard surface material instead of MDF. There are some, fairly rigid, insulation sheets that look like they might work. They can be cut with a Stanley knife and don't break up like polystyrene. I have bought a small piece to work with. The main question is how much support is needed and do they take screws to mount point motors.

It's Thanksgiving today, so I have a long weekend to work on this,

Next tasks, apart from tidying up, are to get an inventory of existing points and motors and then order what I need from Hattons or local suppliers (for the Tortoises).

I also need a heater and I got one on order at Amazon that should be here tomorrow. The shop is well insulated and when I'm lugging things around It's warm enough, but to do detailed work with gloves on wouldn't be a good idea!

Hattons are my cheapest source for Peco track, even when shipping to the US.

I am very lucky in that my wife bought me an HP T120 large format printer as an early Christmas present, so I can print my plan out from Scarm 1:1 on sheets up to 6'x2'.
This cost $700 reduced from $1200! I looked at printing out my plan at Fedex Office and they charge $0.40 per square foot. My plan needs 400 sq ft on 4' x 2' paper. So to print it once would cost $160, I would also have to print it from PDF rather than from Scarm. So if I print this 4 times I've got my money back. In addition it's a colour printer so backscenes come to mind as well!

The downside is there aren't any trains on my list this year!

I don't need any more rolling stock, let's face it, we never NEED rolling stock, but it would be nice if the Elves at Santa's workshop can get everyone's Pendolino's delivered!

But if they can't they'll look just as good in the New Year. (Thanks Ben and Mike)

And I still need a proper name for the layout.

Regards,

John P


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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2017, 07:35:10 pm »
That looks very impressive, John.

I know the location fairly well, having attended many meetings in Wigan in my time.  I look forward with interest to see your plans become reality.

Happy Thanksgiving.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2017, 06:37:17 pm »
The Thanksgiving weekend ended up being very busy so not a lot was done.

I have managed to tidy up and start to clear space. I also experimented with some XPS to see if it would hold a point motor in place and it seems to be fine.

So after tidying I printed out some of my plan from Scarm 1:! and laid it out



It looked so big that I had to put some track on it to convince myself that it was still N Gauge.

Once the plans were in position, I started to remove my old baseboards from their frames and set the frames out to take the new baseboard tops.



I still have 2 or three more frames to salvage and after that it's off to town to purchase sheets of 8' x 4' XPS plus more timber.

Oh, and in case you have seen the plan in the layout planning section, here it is again.



Regards,

John P

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2017, 07:33:32 pm »
Wow!

Looks like a great start. What era will it be?

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2017, 08:51:53 pm »
I hate to point out the obvious, but it does say contemporary in the title.   :D :D :D :D :D

So Pendolino's, CL350's, CL319's, 66's, etc,etc,etc.

Regards,

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2017, 10:14:47 pm »
Significant progress has been made over the last 2 weeks.

First I got all my existing baseboards stripped down so that the frames could be re-used

I then built one more frame which completes the baseboard structure for the scenic section of te layout.



As there is so much room in the workshop, and as I have no intention of moving the layout, this last frame was built as 8' x 2' rather than two 4' x 2' sections.

Next XPS baseboard material was laid down temporarily and the plan was then laid on top of the boards.

XPS



Looking 'north'



Looking 'south'



Once I'd done this it was obvious that everything was missaligned compared to the master plan so I spent some time moving the baseboards around so that everything lined up properly.

Next task is to secure all the baseboards in place and then start the 'superstructure' which will support the elevated sections of the layout (which is all of the WCML through Wigan).

I now have 10 days until the Grandkids arrive, so I've decided to use up some of my accrued vacation time and take the rest of the year off ;D I already had 2 weeks booked, so that's just one more week.

Will trains be running by Christmas?

Watch this space!

Regards,

John P


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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2017, 10:20:37 pm »
Nothing like a deadline to motivate you! Great way to spend a few weeks holiday! Good luck!
Thanks,
Paul

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2017, 08:37:16 am »
Taking annual leave in the US?! Surely not!

Looks awesome, looking forward to watching it develop!

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2017, 08:26:02 pm »
 :hellosign: Excellent progress, good luck with the deadline
     regards Derek.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2017, 04:15:28 am »
Made some good progress today.

Made a start on the upper level for Wigan North Western.

I decided to use a Woodland Scenics glue gun. The gun and glue are low temp for bonding foam, so I thought it would be good on the XPS.

The first riser was held in place and to a slight curve immediately, so I went pretty fast. BUT, the glue needs time to heat up and I found that trying to deposit too much glue too quickly caused the glue to set before I had a chance to place the next riser. Anyway, lesson learned I forced myself to go a little slower between sections to allow the glue
to flow properly.

First put in the incline from Wallgate



Then started the Upper Level.

First I used 1" risers to support the upper level.



The single 2" riser will form an embankment.

Then added another piece of 1" inch thick XPS.



At this point I ran out of 1" risers so I decided to play around mounting a Tortoise point motor.

I'm wondering if this will work, I'll find out tomorrow!



BTW sorry for the blur on some of my photos.

Regards,

John P

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2017, 02:58:46 am »
Not much visible progress today as I have spent most of my time searching for stuff.

I found my soldering iron and all my adhesives. Lots of screwdrivers and craft knives, and even my press punch. But I can't find my pin vice or the drill bits that go in it. I use this for drilling holes in track so that it can be pinned down before it is ballasted.

If any of you have seen my pin vice, please let me know!!

I was able to prove out that my point motor would work being mounted flush, I now need to assemble a short length of track at either end, wire it up and make sure a loco runs over it without problems.



I also salvaged some 2" risers from my old layout and was able to complete more of the embankment north of North Western.



Tomorrow its back to the shops to buy some Plaster bandage and more 1" risers. I already have plaster bandage, but it's just one more thing that I can't find.

Regards,

John P


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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2017, 11:07:55 am »
I bet everything is in that 'safe place', John.
Have you checked all 'man drawers'? (where all the old mobile phones, fuses, batteries, keys to Lord knows what etc are retained)

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2017, 03:10:44 am »
Pin vice was found for $9.99 at local Hobby shop.

Anyway, more progress to report.

First much needed refreshment was delivered by those kind people at Amazon.



Suitably refreshed, I then excavated the upper boards to make room for the Wallgate over bridge. (Wallgate is the name of the street as well as one of the stations)





Then I formed the embankment north of North Western using strips of balsa set at an angle.



Plaster bandage was added.



And then the lot was given a coat of brown primer



Finally I was also able to finish off the incline out of Wallgate station with plaster bandage.





In real life there is no embankment just a slow rise in the ground level.

I also discovered that the solvent in the primer I am using eats the XPS foam board if too much is used!

Over the weekend I'll finish priming the incline and get cracking on laying track.

This will be quite slow as I plan on adding dropper wires first to any pieces of flex track used, within reason.

By Sunday I might even have a loco doing a test run.

Regards,

John P


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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2017, 04:02:55 am »
Just took my first look at this. A very impressive project indeed.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2017, 07:41:00 am »
Incredible progress.  You are really steaming along!
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