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Offline Vonzack

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2250 on: April 04, 2018, 03:08:05 pm »
How well does the mechanism on these perform? As they're the first UK outline N Gauge models Rapido have produced it would be interesting to know as the class 92 should be similar.

The one I received at the York show was smooth and quiet out of the box and didn't show any signs of needing to be run in. If it does get better with more running then fantastic. It only really gets noisy when it's going really fast and that's just the wheelsets singing on the rails.

Cheers, Mark.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2251 on: April 04, 2018, 03:52:34 pm »
The front panel to get a coupling in is paired gently pushed out front the back.


@Busybee Sorry, but can you put that in English please?

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2252 on: April 04, 2018, 03:55:24 pm »
The front panel to get a coupling in is paired gently pushed out front the back.


@Busybee Sorry, but can you put that in English please?


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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2253 on: April 04, 2018, 04:48:50 pm »
I agree. I ran in the 2 that I have and they were both very smooth runners straight from the box. After 20 minutes of running at reasonable speed they proved to be very quiet and amazingly powerful. To say I am delighted is a major understatement!
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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2254 on: April 04, 2018, 05:15:26 pm »
 :helpneededsign:

Hi.

I am awaiting my order. I have sent an email via revolution web site as i have had to change the delivery address (online at web site) as its taking longer to send out the trains and Doddle have changed the way they will receive parcels on my behalf.

Can you confirm if you have received the email please.

Many thanks Roger

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2255 on: April 04, 2018, 05:33:55 pm »
Sorry no we can't confirm that we receive every email sent to us. If you have updated your delivery address on our website then that is where your order will be sent to.

We're getting quite a few of the same questions by email so we've put together some FAQs specific to the Pendolino: https://wp.me/p5BA2j-2DA

We've also got more general FAQs here: http://www.revolutiontrains.com/faqs/

Cheers, Mike



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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2256 on: April 04, 2018, 05:37:07 pm »
Thanks. No probs. Very quick reply.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2257 on: April 04, 2018, 06:05:10 pm »
Sorry no we can't confirm that we receive every email sent to us. If you have updated your delivery address on our website then that is where your order will be sent to.

We're getting quite a few of the same questions by email so we've put together some FAQs specific to the Pendolino: https://wp.me/p5BA2j-2DA

We've also got more general FAQs here: http://www.revolutiontrains.com/faqs/

Cheers, Mike


Mike very helpful, and I am sure you wont mind me echoing the following warning.


CHECK YOUR DCC SYSTEM DOES NOT PUT OUT A TRACK VOLTAGE OF MORE THAN 15 VOLTS OR IT WILL FRY THE DCC CHIPS

For instance my Lenz systems by default operate at 16 volts, changing to 15 volts is easy to do but you must remember to do it before powering a Pendalino.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2258 on: April 04, 2018, 06:17:49 pm »
How well does the mechanism on these perform? As they're the first UK outline N Gauge models Rapido have produced it would be interesting to know as the class 92 should be similar.

Steven B.

Actually very well. I think the balance is good - a decent top speed (over scale speed, so headroom for control) but will creep well too, presumably helped by the coreless motor. The worm pitch is quite coarse compared to a Farish or Dapol worm, but it all seems to work and mesh up nicely. This strikes me as well tested.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2259 on: April 04, 2018, 06:51:45 pm »
Sorry no we can't confirm that we receive every email sent to us. If you have updated your delivery address on our website then that is where your order will be sent to.

We're getting quite a few of the same questions by email so we've put together some FAQs specific to the Pendolino: https://wp.me/p5BA2j-2DA

We've also got more general FAQs here: http://www.revolutiontrains.com/faqs/

Cheers, Mike


Mike very helpful, and I am sure you wont mind me echoing the following warning.


CHECK YOUR DCC SYSTEM DOES NOT PUT OUT A TRACK VOLTAGE OF MORE THAN 15 VOLTS OR IT WILL FRY THE DCC CHIPS

For instance my Lenz systems by default operate at 16 volts, changing to 15 volts is easy to do but you must remember to do it before powering a Pendalino.


Hi

Thatís a little worrying and is not NMRA compliant.

https://www.nmra.org/sites/default/files/standards/sandrp/pdf/s-9.1_electrical_standards_2006.pdf

What happens if you do a reset on your Lenz command station and forget to reduce the voltage back down?

Cheers

Paul

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2260 on: April 04, 2018, 06:55:29 pm »
You hope there is enough impedance in the feed wires  :D

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2261 on: April 04, 2018, 08:22:52 pm »
Mmm, iíd be wary of speaking for Ben and Mike on that. Iíd certainly hope that you wonít instantly annihilate the chips if you put them on a track outputting 16v. Even if itís wise to reduce it.

And people... itís Pendolino. Not Pendalino. Not Pendilino!

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2262 on: April 04, 2018, 08:29:06 pm »
@PaulCheffus  refer to page 3 of your NMRA standards pdf Paul, it clearly shows N max output under 15v in the diagrams 14v at the track is the usual expected N gauge voltage and most control stations can be set to N gauge or a specific voltage, indeed most dcc users make this a priority when configuring their kit... i cant talk for the EZ as it was originally designed for OO and may or may not come with a 19v transformer in which case if it were me i would change the psu for a 15v one on any n gauge use with a Bachmann DCC EZ controller.  I havent seen their new one yet (Bachmanns) so dont know if its specific for N or not so would check.

As said above, Lenz, the Z21 (black and white editions) and digitrax control stations as well as others have the ability to set to specific voltages some as said above presume when you buy them they will be used on OO....

« Last Edit: April 04, 2018, 08:38:04 pm by Only Me »



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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2263 on: April 04, 2018, 08:30:57 pm »
Mmm, iíd be wary of speaking for Ben and Mike on that. Iíd certainly hope that you wonít instantly annihilate the chips if you put them on a track outputting 16v. Even if itís wise to reduce it.

And people... itís Pendolino. Not Pendalino. Not Pendilino!

Mike clicked Thank you.

Its in the FAQ and its very important, and It says its marked on the instructions, but you know how many of us don't read instructions  :)

NB I have come across this 15 volt limit in chip sets before, American N outline sound chips as I recall. (and as I type i see OnlyMe's post)

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2264 on: April 04, 2018, 08:39:43 pm »
I didnít disagree, I said it was good practice for sure, but Iíd really hope there was a little more Ďcontingencyí in the chips. Paulís graph appears to show a decoder maximum of 24v...?

 

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