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General Category => N Gauge Discussion => Topic started by: njee20 on May 15, 2018, 01:38:26 pm

Title: Modellbahn Union Wagons - are they just Dapol?
Post by: njee20 on May 15, 2018, 01:38:26 pm
I've often noticed Modellbahn Union's "silver bullet" china clay tankers on their site, here (https://www.en.dm-toys.de/liste/search/silver%20bullet.html). They bear a stunning resemblance to Dapol's:

MU:
(https://www.en.dm-toys.de/system/html/MU-N-G32028-bd201f37.jpg)

Dapol:
(https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/NB074F_27862_Qty1_1.jpg)

Now the MU ones claim to be 1:160, but say they have length over buffers of 98mm. Taking this photo from Hattons of the Dapol one:

(https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/NB074F_27862_Qty1_ruler.jpg)

Looks bloody close to 98mm, and if the 1:160 ones were 98mm the Dapol ones should be 106mm, which they're definitely not. Conversely if the 1:148 ones are 98mm then the 1:160 ones should be 91mm, which they may be, and the website is wrong :hmmm:

The MU ones say they come with 'optional knuckle couplers' just like the Dapol ones. They do do some liveries which Dapol never have, which is curious. But most are the same, and obviously the weathering, based on a Mercig master, looks as good as identical.

Are they the same wagon, and actually a 1:148 model? Tempted to supplement my rake of Dapol ones, although they're a little expensive they're still coming out about the same as the Dapol ones sell for here. With the advantage they're available now!

Title: Re: Modellbahn Union Wagons - are they just Dapol?
Post by: Steven B on May 15, 2018, 01:52:58 pm
Yes they're the same wagon.

Dapol have produced a number of limited editions for Modellbahn Union including A4s and Class 58 (ACTS)

Steven B.
Title: Re: Modellbahn Union Wagons - are they just Dapol?
Post by: njee20 on May 15, 2018, 02:06:38 pm
Awesome, ta. Was aware of the A4 etc, but those are so obviously a British prototype I wasn't totally sure about the wagons. I imagine they'd be rather overscale on a continental layout, particularly as they're marketed as 1:160, and clearly aren't.

Still, happy days. A source of weathered silver bullets in Nacco and ECC livery.
Title: Re: Modellbahn Union Wagons - are they just Dapol?
Post by: ntpntpntp on May 15, 2018, 04:32:43 pm
... I imagine they'd be rather overscale on a continental layout, particularly as they're marketed as 1:160, and clearly aren't.

True but on the other hand they'll be models of stock built to British loading gauge so shouldn't look too tall among larger loading gauge continental wagons.  Would only really show up where you have british and continental scale models of the same wagon next to each other
Title: Re: Modellbahn Union Wagons - are they just Dapol?
Post by: njee20 on May 15, 2018, 05:00:15 pm
True, which was exactly what I was keen to avoid given I'd be mixing them among a rake.

It's all pretty moot anyway, not sure I'm sufficiently bothered yet to pay 30 each.