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SBB n Gauge loco availability - a useful resource
« on: March 03, 2017, 02:42:04 pm »
Just came across this blog site by Luca Longinotti. It's a very useful listing of SBB locos and their n gauge modelled items.

His intro:
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Below I tried to put together a relatively complete list of Swiss Federal Railways (SBB/CFF/FFS) locomotives and complete trains, mostly built around or after 1950, as I'm more concerned with modern models myself. The idea is to track what has been built in N scale and what is still missing. If it has been built, who built it, in what variants, and is it still freely available, or very rare, or out of production and (almost) impossible to find


Seems current and pretty comprehensive. I don't know what his full parameters are for list inclusion but I see that the Re 481 is not listed, modelled by Fleischmann as item 7323. I suspect this is is because I believe it is a 482 loco variant equipped only for use on the German system.
He has also omitted Re 460 'My Switzerland', Fleischmann model 731301, so I suspect there are others that could be added to what is evidently going to be a work-in-progress.

His efforts are to be applauded - they save me a lot of work! :thankyousign:

http://l.longi.li/blog/category/ntrains/

Note - it took a while to load on my steam driven iPad, but not too bad.
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Re: SBB n Gauge loco availability - a useful resource
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2017, 09:42:11 am »
In this list Luca gives a manufacturer for a few models of modern sets (ETR's, ICN and KISS) as 'MD Trains' and quotes model numbers.

However, I am unable to find any reference to this manufacturer or the models.

Anybody any knowledge of this make?
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Re: SBB n Gauge loco availability - a useful resource
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2017, 09:46:54 am »
A useful post.Thank you!  :thumbsup:
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Re: SBB n Gauge loco availability - a useful resource
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2017, 11:16:32 am »
Hi,
Re 4/4 IV were built by Roco about 15 years ago in four liveries and I had one in the past....beautiful model but very annoying on start...now out of production .

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Re: SBB n Gauge loco availability - a useful resource
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2017, 11:19:01 am »
Here is one

Nr.
von
bis
Baureihe Re 4/4 IV SBB Universallok
2166B
(neu 23250)

1984
1984


http://www.spur-n-datenbank.de/roco/loks/elektro/bilder/23250.jpg
Achsfolge:   Bo´Bo´   Hersteller:   Roco
Höchstgeschw.:   160 km/h   Länge (mm):   100 mm
Farbgebung:   rot   Gewicht (g):   
Aufschrift:   mit großem SBB Logo   Pantograph:   (85204)
Betriebsnummer:   10 103   Motor:   (85020)
Vorbildinfos:      Ersatzkohlen:   89741
Epoche:   IV   Schwungmasse:   nein
Schnittstelle:   nein   Angetr. Räder:   8
Anmerkung:      Anzahl Haftreifen:   2 (85609)
Beleuchtung:   fahrtrichtungsabhängiger Lichtwechsel   Kupplung Original:   89204
Ersatzbirne:   10025   Kupplung Profi:   GFN 9570 + 9572
    Bemerkung:   Schiebebilder mit Wappen beigelegt
Datensatz geändert am: 06.08.2005
Kategorie:   Roco -> Elektroloks -> Re 4/4 IV

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« Last Edit: March 04, 2017, 11:20:26 am by marco neri »
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Re: SBB n Gauge loco availability - a useful resource
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2017, 11:54:59 am »
Thanks Marco.
I think members will, like you and I, be aware of quite a few omissions from Luca's list, so it is a shame that the only way to contact him so that he can add them is via a sign-in/subscribe  process on the blog site . I don't sign in to a lot of stuff as I prefer a low internet profile.

It would be nice if he just gave an email link. Maybe he is already a member here, who knows.

Edit: I have contacted Luca direct suggesting he join the Forum to see any details that he could add/amend in his blog list.

I will advise the outcome soonest.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2017, 01:16:41 pm by daffy »
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Re: SBB n Gauge loco availability - a useful resource
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2017, 01:41:54 am »

Seems current and pretty comprehensive.

IMHO there is quite a lot missing. For example, at a quick glance a number of the Fleischmann Ae6/6 versions are missing, a large number of the Hobbytrain and Kato Re6/6 variants are missing, Roco did an Re4/4IV, Minitrix Em3/3 missing, Arnold single nose Ee3/3 missing,  and there are more versions of the Arnold Tm than listed.

9mm.ch and other sites are more comprehensive I think


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Re: SBB n Gauge loco availability - a useful resource
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2017, 01:56:47 am »
Agreed, I looked at the list of 460s and a good number are missing.

Not sure I really see much use in such a list, knowing something was available many years ago isn't much help is it? Are you using it to inform second hand purchases? Assuming it was comprehensive.

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Re: SBB n Gauge loco availability - a useful resource
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2017, 09:40:49 am »
Well, I don't think the compiler claims his is a definitive list, and he quotes and acknowledges other sources, but I feel he has done his best to bring together a wealth of detail, in English, that is well presented, easy to assimilate, and gives at a glance an idea of what was, is and might be found. As I originally stated, I believe it is a work-in-progress.
Old items will always surface on the second hand market, and odd shops will have odd 'new' items, but having at least some small idea of what might be found and what can still be ordered has its merits.

I think Luca would welcome positive comments to help him improve his work, which is why I had contacted him and asked if he'd like to join the Forum.

In my view he has done his best - and that is all any of us can do, whether that be compiling a list or building a model or layout.
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Re: SBB n Gauge loco availability - a useful resource
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2017, 09:43:50 am »
I wasn't trying to be faceaetious, genuinely unsure of the purpose. If it's a list for the sake of a list, that's fine.

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Re: SBB n Gauge loco availability - a useful resource
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2017, 07:09:51 pm »
Hello everyone! Blog owner here. :-)

The list is clearly still incomplete, I haven't yet even added all the content from the other resources I link there. Short on time currently, but I'll try to make some in the next week(s) and update the list a bit more. Thanks for the suggestions above, I'll keep them in mind while updating the list.
The ultimate idea is to have a full, as complete as possible, list. As far as I know, there is nothing out there of that scope, and especially nothing that lists production status.
That was my main point when I started writing it, to keep track of what can still be found easily at dealers, and what would require weeks of eBay & co. search to maybe find a used model.

Regarding site load time: I know, the high-quality images make it slow, but only on first load. ;-)

Regarding ICN/KISS/etc. by MD-Trains: he's a small italian manufacturer of custom brass models. He can be found at a few events such as Platform der Kleinserie (Bauma, Switzerland) or the Hobby Model Expo (Novegro, Italy). The only online presence is an e-mail address: aster457@alice.it, the models are (as is normal for small series, 10-20 units, brass) pretty expensive. ICN is about 1500 Euro for example. But he's the only one to produce them, and they are among the most-wanted Swiss models, so I list him in case people are interested.

Thanks again for all the comments and have a good week!

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Re: SBB n Gauge loco availability - a useful resource
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2017, 07:15:59 pm »
Welcome to the Forum @llongi  : :wave: Glad you decided to join us. :thumbsup:

Here's wishing you all the best in your venture, and I hope you enjoy this friendly Forum.

And thanks for the details about MD-Trains. It explains why I couldn't find any info about them. I have a sneaking suspicion I won't be buying a model from him, much as I might wish to. :D

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« Last Edit: March 05, 2017, 07:22:08 pm by daffy »
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Re: SBB n Gauge loco availability - a useful resource
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2017, 09:48:57 pm »
I like the sound of the MD-trains stuff!

 

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