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Author Topic: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series  (Read 7880 times)

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2016, 02:56:54 pm »
Going by this list: http://www.katomodels.com/distribution/schedule.shtml the release date hasn't yet been finalized. It certainly looks like it's being released in Japan, so should be obtainable via Japanese channels after release. I'm overdue for a prowl around the local model shops so will look out for it.
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2016, 03:00:11 pm »
Hi Railsquid, That would be really great Please keep us Informed. Thank you Babs

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2016, 11:34:51 pm »
Going by this list: http://www.katomodels.com/distribution/schedule.shtml  It certainly looks like it's being released in Japan,


I'm not so sure. Babz was originally asking about the availability of two new Ge4/4III locos (in yellow - Lazzerini) and red (Heidiland-Bernina).

These are not the same as the Bernina Express coach sets that are being launched.

As far as I can work out the following is what will happen:

set 10-1318 / 10-1319 - these are Allegra railcars with Bernina Express coaches - and will be available in Japan and elsewhere

item numbers 74037/74038 (note the non-kato (i.e. Noch?) references) - Ge4/4III in two new liveries - exclusive for Europe only and will only be available from Noch through German retailers - e.g. they are already showing on Modellbahn Lippe's site.



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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2016, 11:51:42 pm »
Going by this list: http://www.katomodels.com/distribution/schedule.shtml  It certainly looks like it's being released in Japan,


I'm not so sure. Babz was originally asking about the availability of two new Ge4/4III locos (in yellow - Lazzerini) and red (Heidiland-Bernina).

These are not the same as the Bernina Express coach sets that are being launched.

As far as I can work out the following is what will happen:

set 10-1318 / 10-1319 - these are Allegra railcars with Bernina Express coaches - and will be available in Japan and elsewhere

item numbers 74037/74038 (note the non-kato (i.e. Noch?) references) - Ge4/4III in two new liveries - exclusive for Europe only and will only be available from Noch through German retailers - e.g. they are already showing on Modellbahn Lippe's site.

Oh sorry, got confused there.

(I must say, apart from the Glacier Express et al, Kato are quite coy about their European range of models, there's a small selection of mainly German stuff in their HQ store but though some stuff turns up 2nd hand I haven't seen any even in shops specializing in overseas models).
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2016, 12:12:10 am »
The Kato situation is not only 'coy' but hideously complex and confusing, there is Kato Lemke or is it Lemke by Kato; Hobbytrain (Kato); Kato by Kato; Hobbytrain (with no mention of Kato), etc etc; and now we have the Noch (by Kato) ! give up!

There are other similarly confusing marketing tie ups becoming common (e.g. Oxford diecast appearing in European scenics ranges despite being 1:148 not 1:160)
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2016, 12:02:41 pm »
Going by this list: http://www.katomodels.com/distribution/schedule.shtml  It certainly looks like it's being released in Japan,


I'm not so sure. Babz was originally asking about the availability of two new Ge4/4III locos (in yellow - Lazzerini) and red (Heidiland-Bernina).

These are not the same as the Bernina Express coach sets that are being launched.

As far as I can work out the following is what will happen:

set 10-1318 / 10-1319 - these are Allegra railcars with Bernina Express coaches - and will be available in Japan and elsewhere

item numbers 74037/74038 (note the non-kato (i.e. Noch?) references) - Ge4/4III in two new liveries - exclusive for Europe only and will only be available from Noch through German retailers - e.g. they are already showing on Modellbahn Lippe's site.

I did Ask Japan1999 For the Reference numbers Kato 74037 & Kato 74038 whis is the Ref Number use on the German MSL site

   
Manufacturer:       KATO
Art.-No.       74037
EAN:       4007246740376
Gauge       N 1:160
Railway Company:       RhB
Era Designation:       IV-VI
Power system       DC
Digital-Decoder:       Nein
Length over buffer:       103 mm
Delivery Date:       Q1/2016
Manufacturer price:       179,99 €

I certainly Knew what i was asking for and they Understood. There are two sets one with the Allegra and one is a 4 coach set with the Bernina Express by Kato. Babs



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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2016, 01:26:13 pm »
I found this link that looks interesting............ https://twitter.com/katoshoptokyo/status/697011662763618304

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2016, 01:56:56 pm »
FWIW it says "The coupling fitted is the same as the so-called 'Glacier Express short coupling set'".
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2016, 11:30:02 pm »
I think Modellbahn Kramm have some good proces now (€20 0ff) on the new Bernina sets

E-Lok Ge4/4-III 644 LAZZARINI der RhB, in gelb, N-Spur
http://www.modellbahn-kramm.com/d/spezial.cfm?fid=450&artnr=7074038

E-Lok Ge4/4-III 641 Bernina Express Heidiland der RhB
http://www.modellbahn-kramm.com/d/spezial.cfm?fid=450&artnr=7074037

Start-Set Bernina Express 5-teilig der RhB, Inhalt: Elektro-Triebwagen Allegra 3-teilig mit neuer Betr.-Nr. und 2 Bernina-Wagen, N-Spur
http://www.modellbahn-kramm.com/d/spezial.cfm?fid=450&artnr=7074041

Set Ergänzungswagen Bernina Express 4-teilig der RhB
http://www.modellbahn-kramm.com/d/spezial.cfm?fid=450&artnr=7074042

MBK have always provided me with a very good service.






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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2016, 11:59:18 pm »
Kato seems to have decided that the short coupling is OK as standard (I agree - my sets fitted with the short coupling still go round very tight curves.)

I have used the fact that my Glacier Express coaches are fitted with the short couplings to haul them with an Allegra, also with a short coupling.

I won't be getting the two Ge4/4III as I have already done my own repaints at minimum cost, nor the Allegra set as I already have three. But I might get the extension set of 4 BEX coaches just for the sake of variety.

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #40 on: March 25, 2016, 02:01:51 pm »
On offer at DM-Toys

Swiss Alps Glacier Express N Scale Starter Set
Art. No. K10-006
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bargain offer - catalogue price 2013: 199,99 €

Starter Set with all you need! Enlarge the train with K10-1146!

179.99 EUR
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #41 on: March 26, 2016, 09:44:22 pm »
On offer at DM-Toys
Glacier Express Starter Set No. K10-006
bargain offer - catalogue price 2013: 199,99 €
179.99

Warning, this is not really a bargain on this occasion.

Same set is available from Train Trax in UK for £140.



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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2016, 10:14:39 pm »
And as £140 is, as makes no difference, €179.99, anyone thinking of buying this set, might as well stick with Keith at Train Trax. Items can be a bit cheaper buying direct from Japan, but then you have to hope that HM Customs don't get too nosy! I have bought most of my Kato stuff from Train Trax and the only problem I ever had was caused by  :censored: Royal Mail!  Usual disclaimer about just being a satisfied customer etc.  :)
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #43 on: March 26, 2016, 11:31:49 pm »
I agree buy British ( well Kato from Keith at Train Trax)

I hadn't done the conversion or comparison as I was too lazy busy .

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2016, 12:47:06 am »
Interesting to note the following re the two Noch Ge4/4III

One was issued in the yellow Lazzarini livery (loco 644, which is the one Kato did in plain red as their first Ge4/4III and that model is still available.) BTW Kato modelled 644 in plain red because when the model was being developed 644 it was in that livery on the real railway in 2011 and 2012 having previously carried four other advertising liveries)

The other was Heidiland Bernina Express, which was loco 641 but it only carried the Heidiland livery 1995 - 1998, ever since it has been in Co-Op livery .

Now, I have noticed that  Lazzarini version sold very well and is sold out, but the Heidiland version is still available.

By my reckoning the above happened because Lazzarini is a current livery which is what most modellers of this stuff want because the Heidiland livery is too old to match the Glacier Express coaches...

...except (!!!!!)...

the Lazzarini livery is no more...644 has been repainted red in a new plain RhB livery not seen  before.



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