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Offline dickrowland

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Re: European N gauge goofs
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2017, 07:21:43 am »
I found a couple of Artrain UIC green 2nds on Ebay, but at a quoted price of Euro 175.00 each I'll give them a miss for a while. I thought at first the quoted price was for a twin-pack or even a triple-pack but no, that was a single coach.
A pair would be nice for my early 1970s DB Moselbahn layout, but not at that price!

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Re: European N gauge goofs
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2017, 02:06:49 pm »
I found a couple of Artrain UIC green 2nds on Ebay, but at a quoted price of Euro 175.00 each I'll give them a miss for a while. I thought at first the quoted price was for a twin-pack or even a triple-pack but no, that was a single coach.
A pair would be nice for my early 1970s DB Moselbahn layout, but not at that price!

Hi,

You might have missed it but Gordon did mention SNCF Lima DEVs when talking about bogies.

I can't seem to upload a pic but I've got a few and they are quite nice to me. There are a few on French ebay sites (ranging 30-50 euros). I've picked some up for £20 here new (ish).

The only boxed ones I have are LIMA 320883 (green) and 320882 (green/grey).

You might want to steer clear of Lima but as I said they seem OK to me and they could fit in with your plans.

Cheers weave  :beers:

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Re: European N gauge goofs
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2017, 11:46:24 pm »

Transmondia own the Artrain moulds and are producing new versions with improved bogies.

...still waiting...


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Re: European N gauge goofs
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2017, 11:55:38 pm »

You might want to steer clear of Lima but as I said they seem OK to me and they could fit in with your plans.


My Lima DEVs are some of the more efficient coaches I have. They date from the 'second generation' Lima manufacturing so the shape is good, and the 'now old fashioned' nature of the couplings etc is actually an advantage, as more up to date models often suffer from being 'too advanced' (eg nem pocket couplers have a tendency to wiggle up and down and decouple ( a massive problem on LS Models' SNCF USI coaches), whereas robust old fixed couplings stay together.

I actually put a couple of later Arnold tooled DEV bodies (better quality of markings than the Lima) onto the Lima chassis to get the best of both worlds.


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Re: European N gauge goofs
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2017, 12:28:09 am »
Agree Gordon. These came from heyday of Lima with the BB9400 electrics. I sold most of mine but still have some of the 8 compartment ones I converted to catenary greasing coach, exhibition coach, a France Telecom mess wagon, and some of the 9 compartment couchettes.
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Re: European N gauge goofs
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2017, 01:03:16 am »
At my MR club tonight I had a rake running round a unitrack circuit with the following :

BB9300
REE yellow Allege postale
REE maroon Allege postale
Lima pre-UIC dark green DEV
Dynam OCEM 1st
Dynam all green UIC
Dynam all green UIC
Roco Bruhat

Despite four different makes mixed up, the set stayed together with no decoupling - and all but the REE postals have old fashioned fixed couplings


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Re: European N gauge goofs
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2017, 07:06:35 am »
Are the Lima UIC coaches flush glazed?

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Re: European N gauge goofs
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2017, 02:22:58 pm »
Are the Lima UIC coaches flush glazed?

They are DEV rather than UIC. The glazing is in my view accurate, being very slightly recessed from the bodyside as per the real thing. Have not got a photo of the base coach but here are some I converted long ago with one of the real coaches.





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Re: European N gauge goofs
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2017, 12:49:18 am »
We are straying off topic  because the conversation had turned to what is good not what is bad!

So, I've started a new thread  (see elsewhere) where I have put my latest contribution about the Lima DEV coaches
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Modelling French N gauge since 1975
Modelling Swiss and German N gauge since 1971

 

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