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Title: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 15, 2017, 09:12:04 pm
I've decided to start a new thread as my two layouts are now joined properly and it makes sense , I think, to have a single thread.
Based loosely on the North Cornish coast between Truro via Perranporth and Wadebridge (as many of you will know already). Port Perran is essentially a forner Great Western station whilst Trepol Bay is the Western outpost of the old LSWR beyond Wadebridge. The railway between Wadebridge and Truro  (in my period 59-64 loosely) enjoys joint operation by SR and WR.
I have spent the last 4 days reinstating the two layouts (after having to be stored away to accommodate visitors) and taking the opportunity to relay some of the track and rationalise my fiddle yard ( which was too big and unweildy).
Anyway.........nearly everything is back up and running with just a few bits to complete tomorrow evening.
Hopefully, I'll be able to post some re-opening photos late tomorrow.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 16, 2017, 08:56:20 pm
So.....the first photos of Port Perran and Trepol Bay now that they are both back up and running
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/f1_zpsrmlifhjz.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/f1_zpsrmlifhjz.jpg.html)
First we have a Standard 5 running into Trepol Bay with a train for Wadebridge. A West Country  pacific waits to follow with a later train.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/f3_zpsktttiinm.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/f3_zpsktttiinm.jpg.html)
Next a single unit approaches Port Perran with a local for Truro. A prarie waits on the station avoiding line with milk empties returning to North Cornwall whilst a pannier is waiting to leave the branch with a china clay train.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/f2_zpsxbcvcsht.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/f2_zpsxbcvcsht.jpg.html)
Finally , a 64xx pannier leaves Port Perran with a train formed of an ex GW B set headed towards Trepol Bay. It must be a nice day as people are relaxing on the shingle beach !
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on May 16, 2017, 09:41:37 pm
A good idea combining them both. I got confused as to which was which. Something to do with age I've been told. :worried:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on May 17, 2017, 06:26:21 am
Thank you for a lovely set of pictures.  I think you have done really well to get it all back up together again and looking so good.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 17, 2017, 08:10:56 am
This morning I solved a small problem.
Since reassembling the layouts, I was wondering why certain locomotives were catching the edge of the girder bridge over Penwinnick Creek.
Obvious! I'd replaced the bridge the wrong way around. A trick situation to remedy but it's done now and all is working as it should.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on May 17, 2017, 08:37:27 am
Well spotted!  And well executed.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 18, 2017, 07:31:57 am
Good to see everything back up and running Martin. Great pictures thank you.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 18, 2017, 12:36:29 pm
Good to see everything back up and running Martin. Great pictures thank you.

Seconded! Excellent to see that everything is running as it should, Martin. The WR water crane in picture two needs some urgent attention though as it has a noticeable lean. North Cornwall is enjoying some very nice sunny weather. If it continues, Cant Cove's official photographer hopes to take some pictures, soon. Looking forward to seeing some more photos. from your corner of North Cornwall, in due course.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on May 18, 2017, 06:52:32 pm
Hi Martin,

Glad you've combined the two layouts as a thread.

Lovely pics and, as always, looking forward to more.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 18, 2017, 10:59:07 pm
 :greatpicturessign: Hello , thanks for the pictures Martin, nice to see up & running again
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 19, 2017, 07:05:11 am
Isn't that a BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4T rather than a prairie waiting on the station avoiding line with milk empties returning to North Cornwall?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on May 19, 2017, 07:22:44 am
Isn't that a BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4T rather than a prairie waiting on the station avoiding line with milk empties returning to North Cornwall?
It certainly looks like it to me!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 19, 2017, 08:29:06 am
Apologies. It certainly is a Standard 4.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on May 19, 2017, 12:25:00 pm
Great photos Martin and great to see the layouts combined
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 19, 2017, 08:51:50 pm
Rumours are rife  amongst linesiders in North and West Cornwall that the local 14XX tank which has been a resident of Truro shed for many years working local passenger turns at off peak times (when a single autocoach suffices) is heading off to Swindon works for a heavy general overhaul and thence on to pastures new.
it is strongly rumoured that the black liveried 14XX will be replaced by a similar machine fresh from overhaul and a full repaint into green livery.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: lil chris on May 19, 2017, 11:28:34 pm
Hi There Martin, nice to see you have combined your two layouts together, great pics of life at PortPerran/Trepol bay.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 20, 2017, 10:42:17 am
Rumours are rife  amongst linesiders in North and West Cornwall that the local 14XX tank which has been a resident of Truro shed for many years working local passenger turns at off peak times (when a single autocoach suffices) is heading off to Swindon works for a heavy general overhaul and thence on to pastures new.
it is strongly rumoured that the black liveried 14XX will be replaced by a similar machine fresh from overhaul and a full repaint into green livery.

It is further rumoured that, during the Summer timetable, a BR Lined Green 14xx plus a BR Livery GWR design autocoach will be running between Penmayne and Port Perran on special enthusiast charters. The 14xx will be substituted by a similarly liveried 64xx (to cope with the gradients) if bookings require more than one autocoach. An onboard service of locally sourced light refreshments will be served by the "Chelsea Girls". Special preview runs have been arranged for publicity purposes by Sylvia and Eli in co-operation with BR WR and the CLPG.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 20, 2017, 01:51:42 pm
Port Perran and Trepol Bay are bidding farewell to a couple of old friends.
First we see the ex GW railcar heading an enthusiasts special through Trepol Bay en-route from Wadebridge to Truro. From Truro the loco will head to Swindon for overhaul:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/a1a_zpsvuaa1ya6.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/a1a_zpsvuaa1ya6.jpg.html)
Secondly we see a pair of 14XX tanks at the head of a B Set heading towards Port Perran. The green liveried locomotive has just arrived in the area as a replacement for its black cousin which is also heading to Seindon for overhaul:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/a1b_zpssdeluih3.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/a1b_zpssdeluih3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 20, 2017, 02:05:16 pm
Thank you very much, Martin, for another pair of excellent photos. The GWS (Bodmin) is very grateful to its friends at Port Perran for looking after it's preserved GWR diesel railcar and is looking forward to welcoming it back, later this summer, after a full mechanical overhaul [DCC-fitting by Douglas of Wickness Models]. The GWS, not to mention Sylvia, is also looking forward, this summer, to welcoming preserved 1419 from a similar full mechanical overhaul, this summer.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 21, 2017, 09:04:57 pm
As a result of engineering work near Newquay earlier today, there have been some unusual locomotives rostered to trains.
First we have a Q1 at the head of a broccoli secial heading through Port Perran headed for Wadebridgeand hence on to Plymouth. The prarie will follow with a local to Trepol Bay later:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/193EF79C-F9CA-4A89-8556-60461534650C_zpshps4jgy4.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/
media/193EF79C-F9CA-4A89-8556-60461534650C_zpshps4jgy4.jpg.html)
And unusually the evening Wadebridge to Truro formed of SR stock is worked through Trepol Bay by a Manor 4-6-0 in place of the usual N Class mogul :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/8E26E59C-8512-41F8-9263-EAB736BC8748_zpsdtxspjdr.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/8E26E59C-8512-41F8-9263-EAB736BC8748_zpsdtxspjdr.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 21, 2017, 11:40:53 pm
Hello thanks for the :greatpicturessign:  Martin, looking awesome as usual
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on May 22, 2017, 06:28:03 am
Thanks for a couple of really evocative pictures, Martin.  They are very clear and portray the scene admirably.  I really must buy my new camera soon!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 22, 2017, 05:01:02 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another pair of excellent photos. of interesting trains. Similar broccoli specials have been run from Penmayne and Cant Cove (for the "Castle Estates").

Despite the excellent sunny weather, Cant Cove's official photographer and his charming lady assistant are both away at a sales and marketing conference in Somerset with Sylvia and Eli, supported by the "Chelsea Girls", so no photos. for a while longer. (The conference is to promote the purchase, lease and use of the new Extra-LWB rail goods vehicles by local companies within the region, nationwide, and across the Channel, too.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 22, 2017, 08:25:14 pm
Another unusual locomotive working this evening sees Standard 4 80130 at the head of the 18.10 Wadebridge to Truro milk train working to Truro via Trepol Bay, Port Perran and Chacewater. This train is normally in the hands of a D63xx diesel or an ex GW prarie. It is thought that the Standard is deputising for a failed hydraulic.
We see the train just leaving the girder bridge over  Penwinnick Creek. The train will take the station avoiding line at Port Perran. On arrival at Truro the milk tanks will be added to the evening St Erth to Kensington milk worked to Plymouth by a Truro Grange and onwards towards London by a Laira Castle:

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/CC9BC43D-5904-4184-969F-3F8E15B70580_zpsvncwgalg.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/CC9BC43D-5904-4184-969F-3F8E15B70580_zpsvncwgalg.jpg.html)
The stag beneath the bridge looks wary but the pigs (one of which is a prize Gloucester Old Spot) seem unconcerned!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 22, 2017, 08:37:59 pm
Thanks for another very nice photo., Martin, of an interesting train. The BR Standard 4MTs are rumoured to be planned to replace the 'N' Class 2-6-0s, in the future. The local SR crew think highly of them.

It was good to see the pigs enjoying the sunny weather (I knew they were on the layout) but had not seen them, before.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 22, 2017, 08:48:44 pm
Don't forget the stag lurking beneath the bridge Chris!
Rumours are rife that BR (W) are considering trialling a new locomotive type on the line from Truro to Wadebridge in the very near future............

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 22, 2017, 09:02:00 pm
Ah, yes, the stag looks very good, too, Martin. Some of the stag's relatives can be found in the extensive grounds of Trevelver Castle.

I wonder what the mystery loco. could be?

In 1961, BR SR and WR combined to upgrade the line from Bodmin Road-Wadebridge-Penmayne but the work was stopped at Cant Cove after the Chairman of the new British Railways Board, Richard Beeching, ordered a halt to such investment pending a full review of the rail network. Consequently, locos. are still, usually, changed at Wadebridge as the bridge over the inlet to Cant Cove does not allow anything heavier than a Bulleid Light Pacific, 43XX or a "Hymek" to be used on to Penmayne.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 23, 2017, 06:21:59 pm
The new locomotive allocated to duties on the Truro to Wadebridge line has made its debut today amidst some secrecy. Luckily, a local enthusiast was at the lineside and managed a few photos. He is currently in the darkroom so hopefully the identity of the loco will be revealed very soon.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 23, 2017, 06:33:55 pm
And here are the first photographs of ........6803 Bucklebury Grange, very recently drafted into West Cornwall and allocated to Truro depot.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/E0E878EF-5A3B-400F-AB93-718A7A8F78ED_zpsurie7cbu.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/E0E878EF-5A3B-400F-AB93-718A7A8F78ED_zpsurie7cbu.jpg.html)
First a close up on the approach to Port Perran with a train from Wadebridge to Truro.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/BDB2259E-B0DD-4E18-84C3-4A8C3F1C7445_zpsvbauajd6.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/BDB2259E-B0DD-4E18-84C3-4A8C3F1C7445_zpsvbauajd6.jpg.html)
Entering a busy Port Perran with the same train.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/6F42EB9B-7024-4A92-BD89-DBE66E6E0C35_zps5dvrwfbm.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/6F42EB9B-7024-4A92-BD89-DBE66E6E0C35_zps5dvrwfbm.jpg.html)
The earlier. Outbound(Truro to Wadebridge) train at Trepol Bay.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/A31B2546-2484-4C42-94DF-82E27F725E8F_zpsaokiyuhx.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/A31B2546-2484-4C42-94DF-82E27F725E8F_zpsaokiyuhx.jpg.html)
Finally, an unusual sight. Two ex GW 4-6-0s at the ex SR station at Trepol Bay.
The other loco is 7819 Hinton Manor.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 23, 2017, 06:39:41 pm
Thanks for the excellent photos. of the new arrival, Martin. A very appropriate type of loco. for Cornwall. I'm still planning to buy a Dapol "Grange" myself, in the future.

Truro had a number of "Granges" allocated in the 1950s and early 1960s. The last being 6854, in 1961.

St. Blazey also had a number of "Granges" allocated in the late 1950s and early 1960s. The last three (1961) being: 6825, 6875, and 6812.

The "Grange" will come in very useful for the Summer timetable services. (I had guessed that the new addition would be a "Grange" in this livery.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 26, 2017, 12:22:12 pm
Having received a tax refund, I have succumbed and bought an identical Dapol 6803 "Bucklebury Grange" (the cheapest I could find was at Rails of Sheffield) which will become, after DCC-fitting, St. Blazey's 6875 "Hindford Grange" which was photographed, in 1962, at Penzance looking immaculate. However, it will not be in service, here, until July at the earliest.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on May 26, 2017, 06:21:17 pm
Excellent photo's martin, have not seen that view before I don't think, but do like the cameo of the pigs & deer - another big plus from joining the 2 layouts
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 26, 2017, 08:29:41 pm
Beautiful day here so we took the opportunity to drive over to Daymer Bay then managed a ling walk to the Rumps and back.
On returning home the late evening sun was streaming through the train room window illuminating Trepol Bay harbour so I couldn't resist this photo:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/88647596-8B5A-43D4-AB08-11D8C1BADDC1_zpsoe0fbklx.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/88647596-8B5A-43D4-AB08-11D8C1BADDC1_zpsoe0fbklx.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on May 26, 2017, 08:40:13 pm
Great pic, Martin.
It could even be a full moon helping light the smugglers' way whilst the village sleeps :)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 26, 2017, 09:04:20 pm
Great pic, Martin.
It could even be a full moon helping light the smugglers' way whilst the village sleeps :)
Thanks Mick, I hadn't thought of that scenarion.
Maybe the smugglers have arrived by rowing boat and will make their getaway in the 04!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: trkilliman on May 26, 2017, 09:27:39 pm
That's another nice picture Martin.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on May 26, 2017, 09:42:06 pm
A super photo. Moonlight, I think too. Just right for "evil deeds"! :uneasy:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 26, 2017, 10:30:52 pm
Hello Really superb photo Martin, thanks for sharing
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 27, 2017, 06:37:56 am
A really superb photo. The lighting really shows how good the harbour walls look. The whole scene is highly realistic. Very very good indeed.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 27, 2017, 01:50:46 pm
Thanks everyone.
It really is all natural light. I caught it just right with lvery late bright sunlight flooding in the window and creating the shadows.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Steamie+ on May 30, 2017, 05:29:10 pm
That’s a brilliant photo Martin and the weathering of the harbour must be the best i have ever seen  :claphappy: :claphappy:, the algae is brilliant, just makes me want to go crabbing there with the Grandkids mate.

I want to see your layout even more now Martin, must get to see you when we plan a trip down your way.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: 
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 30, 2017, 05:57:23 pm
Ah now there's s thought.
I haven't got a little lad with a crabline. I'll see what I can do in a day or so.
Yes, you are very welcome if ever you make it to Cornwall.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 30, 2017, 08:35:22 pm
Saturday  May 27th 1962.
Cornwall have made it to the final of Rugby Union's County Championship having defeated Lancashire 29-27 in a fiercely competitive match at The Redruth Ground (known locally as Hellfire Corner).
Cornwall has a proud rugby tradition but have only won the County Championship once (in 1908) although they have been beaten finalists a few times - most recently in 1958 so are keen for more success.
Cornwall's opponents are to be Gloucestershire who won the toss of a coin to stage the final at their home ground of Kingsholm in Gloucester itself.
Such is the enthusiasm for rugby in Cornwall thar demand for tickets is huge. As a result BR are putting on a number of special trains, mostly running via the GWR main line to Gloucester picking up at all stations within Cornwall. To avoid congestion on the main line, some trains will run from Penzance and take the old LSWR route via Port Perran and Trepol Bay then onto Wadebridge and into Devon. It is expected that 3 trains will take this route.
Edward Travallion  and his two sons, Michael (known locally as Mad Mike) and Thomas who live  at Carn Elliott Farm near to Port Perran are keen rugby fans and are booked onto the second train on the saturday due to pick up at Port Perran at 08.12 arriving Gloucester at 13.05 in plenty of time for a bevvy or two before the 3-00 kick off.
No one could have imagined the drama that was to unfold that day..............
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on May 30, 2017, 09:01:07 pm
We wait with baited breath!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 30, 2017, 09:05:36 pm
Sounds fascinating, Martin. As might be expected, Captain Jeremy Corentyn Cador and his navy friends as well as Giles Roskrow, the Chelsea wine importer (ex-SAS) and some of his old Hereford comrades, who are staying at Trevelver Castle on a 'shooting holiday', are also very keen amateur rugby players and have reserved seats to / from Wadebridge in the Restaurant First Open next to the Buffet Car on the the second train on the Saturday. Return tickets have been bought through from Cant Cove. The boys will catch the BR SR service (7.32 from Penmayne), Cant Cove (arrive 7.36, 7.38 depart) due in Wadebridge at 7.45, an N 2-6-0 with a Maunsell 2P set plus an extra Maunsell SK, which should allow plenty of time to catch the Rugby Special. Fresh bacon sandwiches and coffee have been ordered from "The Railway Hotel" opposite Cant Cove station to be delivered at 7.35 sharp on the platform. The weather forecast is set fair. The passengers are looking forward to enjoying the prize-winning local draught ales (provided at a specially reduced price in the buffet car on each train by the directors of both Castle and Headland Breweries) on the way to the match. The friends will be pacing themselves on the long journey in anticipation of some beers with friends in a pub near the match ground before the match.

The "Chelsea Girls", knowing well that this is a strictly males only occasion, will be heading for their favourite secluded cove near Trevone for a leisurely picnic, some (mostly bikini-clad) sunbathing and paperback reading. However, Monique, the brunette French model prefers an all-over tan whilst Susan (having seen infinitely far worse things in her travels in space and time with her grandfather) is completely unconcerned about going without clothes on a secluded beach with her female friends.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 30, 2017, 09:20:15 pm
It is to be hoped that Captain Cador and his friends do not  onsume too much ale (provided at a specially reduced price in the buffet car on each train by the directors of both Castle and Headland Breweriies) on the way to the match.
They, along with all other passengers will be expected to provide witness statements to the police later.........
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 30, 2017, 10:15:28 pm
It is to be hoped that Captain Cador and his friends do not consume too much ale (provided at a specially reduced price in the buffet car on each train by the directors of both Castle and Headland Breweries) on the way to the match.
They, along with all other passengers will be expected to provide witness statements to the police later.........

The friends will be pacing themselves on the long journey in anticipation of some beers with friends in a pub near the match ground before the match.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Steamie+ on May 31, 2017, 05:54:21 am
Saturday  May 27th 1962.
Cornwall have made it to the final of Rugby Union's County Championship having defeated Lancashire 29-27 in a fiercely competitive match at The Redruth Ground (known locally as Hell's Corner)
Cornwall has a proud rugby tradition but have only won the County Championship once (in 1908) although they have been beaten finalists a few times - most recently in 1958 so are keen for more success.
Cornwall's opponents are to be Gloucestershire who won the toss of a coin to stage the final at their home ground of Kingsholm in Gloucester itself.
Such is the enthusiasm for rugby in Cornwall thar demand for tickets is huge. As a result BR are putting on a number of special trains, mostly running via the GWR main line to Gloucester picking up at all stations within Cornwall. To avoid congestion on the main line, some trains will run from Penzance and take the old LSWR route via Port Perran and Trepol Bay then onto Wadebridge and into Devon. It is expected that 3 trains will take this route.
Edward Travallion  and his two sons, Michael (known locally as Mad Mike) and Thomas who live  at Carn Elliott Farm near to Port Perran are keen rugby fans and are booked onto the second train on the saturday due to pick up at Port Perran at 08.12 arriving Gloucester at 13.05 in plenty of time for a bevvy or two before the 3-00 kick off.
No one could have imagined the drama that was to unfold that day..............

Lancashire beaten by Cornwall 29-27  :hmmm: :hmmm: haha  :laugh3:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on May 31, 2017, 06:30:56 am
It is to be hoped that Captain Cador and his friends do not  onsume too much ale (provided at a specially reduced price in the buffet car on each train by the directors of both Castle and Headland Breweriies) on the way to the match.
They, along with all other passengers will be expected to provide witness statements to the police later.........
Curiouser and curiouser... (to quote Charles Dodgson).
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 31, 2017, 05:19:04 pm
I'm eagerly awaiting the news. I do hope that it will not be too serious.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 31, 2017, 07:30:32 pm
The second rugby special arrives bang on time at Port Perran behind a large prarie. This being bank holiday weekend the railway is very busy so a very mixed rake of carriages in chocolate and cream, SR green, blood and custard and maroon liveries make up the train. The second vehicle is a buffet car serving various local ales from Castle and Headland breweries.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/8403B91D-3C11-4425-A7B6-017E6AD497A9_zps1c7pypdp.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/8403B91D-3C11-4425-A7B6-017E6AD497A9_zps1c7pypdp.jpg.html)
Edward Trevallion and his two sons have duly boarded the train and taken up their seats in coach three. Mad Mike making his way straight to the buffet car!
The train made its way to Trepol Bay where Jeremy Cador, Giles Roskrow and their friends climbed aboard.
Also boarding at Trepol Bay are the sports reporter and photographer, Jim Ellis and Dave Partridge, for the Western Morning News. Dave proudly carrying his new Zeiss camera which he will be using for the very first time.
On leaving Trepol Bay the carriages are already echoing to the strains of Trelawney (the much loved Cornish rugby anthem).
The large prarie will take the train forward to Wadebridge where 2 additional carriages will be added. A Bullied light pacific will take the train forward from there
Many of the rugby supporters who will be joining the train at Wadebridge are already expectantly gathered on the platform there. Amongst them is the notorious small time villain and  card sharp Alan Poldory and his brother Larry.........

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 31, 2017, 08:04:26 pm
Thanks, Martin, for another excellent photo. and the next episode. The BR Lined Green Late Crest Large Prairie looks very fine at the head of the mixed rake.

I hope that at least one off-duty member of the Cornish Constabulary is on board.

Although Jeremy Cador, Giles Roskrow and their friends could have waited to board the special train at Wadebridge station, they wanted to greet their friends from Port Perran and Trepol Bay and get settled in next to the Buffet Car as soon as possible (as the licenced bar, unlike that on the station, would already be open) so chose to buy singles from Wadebridge to Trepol Bay, after checking with the stationmaster, that they would not miss the rugby special by doing so. The special was right on time, so they did not have long to wait after leaving the local train from Wadebridge which had to wait, in the station, to pass the special and resume its journey.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 01, 2017, 08:46:31 pm
The rugby special is now well on its way.
At Wadebridge Alan Poldory joined the train with his brother Larry and they soon settled into the very last carriage that had been added to the train ar Wadebridge.
The prarie was replaced at Wadebridge by Battle of Britain 34081 92 Squadron which will run through right to Gloucester where it will be turned and serviced at Horton Road shed.
Alan and Larry Poldory had very deliberately chosen to take up a position in the very last carriage. They had a plan......a cunning plan to make a little money on the side during the journey.
The fact that the two Poldory brothers joined the train at Wadebridge had not gone un-noticed by the Trevallion boys. The Trevallion boys smelt a rat.
Also significant was that Sergeant Arthur Triggs (of Bodmin police station) had also joined the train at Wadebridge. Sgt Triggs is a passionate rugby fan and had taken a days leave to attend the match. However, being a good "copper" he always made a point of looking out for trouble......
10 minutes out of Wadebridge, Alan Poldory opened up his duffel bag..........
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on June 01, 2017, 08:51:09 pm
We wait with baited breath!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 01, 2017, 08:52:44 pm
We wait with baited breath!

Absolutely! I'm glad that an off-duty local policeman is also on board.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 02, 2017, 10:31:27 am
15 minutes out from Wadebridge Alan Poldory gave a nod to his brother Larry.
That was the signal to start to put their plan into action. Larry retrieved the two packs of playing cards from the duffel bag. Alan's notoriety as a card sharp was was well known throughout Cornwall and was also well known by the Trevallion brothers. Alan and Larry knew they were at the front of the train and that's why they had taken up position in the rear coach. Well way from Mad Mike.
The plan was simple....the Poldory's would challenge all comers to a few games of pontoon on the long trip, being very careful who they chose to play against-only the unsuspecting were chosen.
Alan was a very experienced player but he couldn't lose today as one of the packs was marked and Larry was well in on the game. They used two packs(the second of which wasn't marked) in order to lose now and again so as not to draw attention to themselves. They were careful to use the marked pack at tables where they suspected the stakes would be higher.
By Bristol they had made a rody profit of well over £225.00. Not a bad sum for a morning's work in the early 60s.
On the approach to Bristol, the two Trevallion brothers decided to stretch their legs with a walk through the train......just to see if anything untoward might be afoot.........
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 02, 2017, 12:48:10 pm
Meanwhile, towards the front of the speeding special, in the Restaurant Buffet coach (with its small kitchen) next to the Restaurant First Open coach, stocks of North Cornwall Pasty Co. Cornish pasties and the fine draught and bottled beers from the "Castle" and "Headland" breweries were diminishing even faster than the Chief Steward (very experienced at catering for rugby specials, having been a noted rugby player in his youth for Truro, where he had joined the train which had started back at Penzance) had anticipated. Fortunately, more stock was safely locked away in the security cage in the Guard's compartment of the Brake Second towards the end of the train, for just such an eventuality.

However, the Chief Steward's small staff were already working flat out in the RMB and the RFO so he decided that he would have to ask for volunteers to help him retrieve the boxes of pasties and crates of bottles. Knowing Jeremy Cador, Giles Roskrow and their friends to be trustworthy, well capable of protecting the returning 'cargo', and still not too the worse for wear, he quietly had a word with Jeremy and Giles and asked them if they would accompany him on his important mission. Naturally, the two young men agreed and, setting down their glasses, got up to follow the Chief Steward through the packed train.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 02, 2017, 10:20:28 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks Martin & Chris for the storyline, waiting for the next installment
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 03, 2017, 09:27:28 am
Having left Bristol on the final leg to Gloucester, demand in the buffet car quietened down and so Giles , Jeremy and their friends returned to theor seats for a relaxing drink.
Shortly after Alan and Larry Poldory arrived in their carriage and sensing that they might make a bit more money (the way Giles and Jeremy were dressed suggested that they might gamble big) they couldn't resist one more game of cards. Hopefully for big stakes.
The Trevallion brothers had, meanwhile been watching the Poldorys and realised what was afoot. Sitting in the same carriage, just a row or two back, was the off duty Sergeant Triggs. The Poldory brothers had no time for the police but did have a healthy respect for Sgt Triggs. Their utter dislike of Larry and especially Alan Poldory persuaded them to give Sgt Triggs a little nudge to alert him as to what was about to happen.
Unfortunately for Alan Poldory, Giles Roskrow was himself a confirmed card player , often making a small killing at Poker so he was happy to accept the challenge from the Trevallions.
The first hand was played with the stakes set at £20 minimum bet.
All eyes were on the players and, more particularly , the cards........
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 03, 2017, 10:41:14 am
The replacement pasties and bottled beers safely stocked in the buffet car, the friends in the RFO had settled down for a post-lunch nap when Alan and Larry Poldory arrived in their carriage and something about their body language brought Giles to a state of heightened awareness.

London-based wine merchant, Giles Roskrow, is indeed highly renowned, in Chelsea (and beyond), for his Poker skills (so much so that he, normally, finds it very difficult to find anyone who will play against him for serious money) and learnt a great deal about maintaining a 'poker face' and evaluating people's give-away 'tells' (micro body language) whilst based at a certain Hereford barracks . . . Giles senses an opportunity to earn enough to buy a diamond ring for a certain young Breton lady.

Giles' friends, well aware of what is likely to happen, welcome Alan Poldory, whilst one walks through to the neighbouring bar to tip off the Chief Steward to serve their friend with what looks like G&Ts in tall glasses, still bearing the GWR logo (kept for just such special occasions), but is, in fact, bottled lightly sparkling mineral water from a spring on the Castle Estates, of which the buffet car still has plenty of stock.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on June 03, 2017, 11:13:06 am
With multiple script writers writing different episodes, it's a getting a bit like the Archers!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 03, 2017, 11:20:08 am
With multiple script writers writing different episodes, it's a getting a bit like the Archers!

Martin and I have practised this difficult art, before, Laurence, without 'stepping on each other's toes'! Martin is the lead writer on this one; I just try to add details without taking the main plot line 'off track'! 8-) All great fun.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on June 03, 2017, 11:27:12 am
The quality of story line is certainly much better than the Archers, anyway.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 03, 2017, 01:51:20 pm
Giles and Jeremy settle down in their seats inviting Alan and Larry to join them.
"Minimum Bet " £20.00 mutters Alan.
"As is your wish boys, although I'm happy to go £50" replies Giles perfectly happy to lead his opponents along by losing the first hand.
" Lets play 8 hands" says Giles. "Quadruple odds on the last leg I presume?".
Alan Poldory is perfectly happy to go along with the idea.
The game attracts a degree of interest amongst the other passengers including Sgt Triggs and the Trevallions.
"I'll deal" says Larry producing his marked pack. Giles, realising immediately what is happening goes along with the suggestion and as expected the Poldorys win pocketing a tidy £40 from their opponents.
"I can see that you are indeed exceptional players" says Giles. " You certainly know how to play".
This reassures Alan who sets about dealing again.
" Not so quick" Giles butts in , "Just to be sure, I suggest a neutral pack of cards for the remaining 7 hands, I'm sure you won't object being such experienced players"
With so many people watching the Poldorys have no choice as Sgt Triggs produces a pristine set of playing cards.
"If you've no objection, I suggest 25.00 stakes in this game" suggests Giles.
Alan Poldory, somewhat uncertainly, deals for the second game..........
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 03, 2017, 02:18:38 pm
Knowing Giles to be a highly skilled player, Jeremy is content to follow his friend's lead and react accordingly. A second glass of what looks like G&T is set down, by the Chief Steward, for Jeremy on a white linen napkin next to a temptingly plump leather monogrammed wallet, whilst a pair of real G&Ts appear in matching GWR logo glasses for the Poldorys. "No, no, I insist," explains Giles, ever the gracious urbane host, "you two gentlemen are our guests", when the surprised Poldorys try to wave the tempting tall glasses away.

The Chief Steward hovers in the background, well-aware that this will be a memorable game. There is quite a group of interested spectators, not least the off-duty, but ever attentive, Sergeant Triggs, gathered near the players' table. The train speeds on through the sunlit countryside.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 03, 2017, 04:47:24 pm
Giles and Jeremy are well aware that they are taking a gamble but Jeremy is reassured by Giles' excellent reputation as a renowned card player.
The Trevallions have been talking to aggrieved card players as they made their way along the train many of whom believe (quite rightly) that they have been tricked by the Poldory brothers.
Despite their somewhat maligned reputation the Trevallions are keen to ensure that Alan and Larry get their just rewards and have primed Sgt Triggs accordingly.
Giles assesses his opponents very carefully - he has met their sort before, and looks at his first two cards with an inner satisfaction but gives absolutely nothing away. He is aware of the slight sweat appearing on Alan Poldory's brow.............
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on June 03, 2017, 06:02:39 pm
Gripping stuff..... excellent storyline choreography :)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 03, 2017, 07:21:36 pm
Giles looks again at his two cards, 6 of spades and 5 of diamonds.
An excellent chance of a picture or 10 next ...couldn't be better.........
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 03, 2017, 07:55:05 pm
Giles is relying on his friend, Jeremy, to look nervous and, indeed he is; a lot of money is, literally, at stake for someone on a Royal Naval Captain's (Lieutenant-Commander's) salary.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on June 03, 2017, 08:47:58 pm
Go on Giles, do it....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15o5R7_pkUo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15o5R7_pkUo)

Sorry for interrupting  :no:

Great stuff,

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 04, 2017, 12:42:05 pm
 :laughabovepost:
Excellent link
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 04, 2017, 12:53:08 pm
Alan Poldory sitting with a queen and a five had no option but to twist.
The result ...... another 6. Bust.
Jeremy, looking extremely nervous with so much resting on him has two cards for 12 and also twists with an 8.
Larry, stiiting with two Kings is quietly confident so sticks-unable to read Gile' face.
Giles, of course, sitting on 11 twists with a Jack of Hearts turning up to win the booty.
The same story continues to the eighth game. Giles letting Larry and Alan win a couple of games on the way.
For the final game, a confident and astute Giles raises the odds to £50 per player. Alan and Larry, of course, by now down to just a few pounds each cannot match the bet but bluff there way through.
Panicking and somewhat befuddled by the GandTs Alan is flusterd whilst the ever alert Giles keeps a stoney face.
Dealt a 7 and a 3 , Giles twists for a 3 ( not an ideal card). Giving nothing away he is dealt another 6 and decided to stick on 19. Jeremy, rather less assured than Giles sticks on 18.
Larry , panicking so much that he is shaking twists on 15 and is dealt a 7. Bust.
Alan  Poldory sitting on 18 cannot decide what Giles is holding so with baited breath twists in the vain hope of a 3 turning up.
At that moment, the train, nearing Gloucester descends into a tunnel and darkness..........
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 04, 2017, 01:54:23 pm
That would be Wickwar tunnel (1,401 yards; 1,281 m. long), just after Yate station. The Chief Steward immediately wonders whether there a secret accomplice nearby who knows how (and when) to turn off the RFOs's lights from the carriage's vestibule? [In a BR Mk1 Open a through control switch was fitted in the corridor and this controls all ceiling lights in the vestibule, saloons, corridor and toilet.]
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 04, 2017, 04:51:50 pm
After the fifth game and having suffered heavy losses the Poldorys were panicking.
A toilet break was taken and whilst on his way to the toilet, Alan slipped £20.00 to Elijah Vernon (a shady character known to the Poldorys).
Elijan's task was to switch off the lights via the isolating lever in the vestibule just as the train entered Wickwar tunnel.
Immediately the lights went out Giles slipped his hand over his ever bulging wallet. Half a second later he felt the sweary hand of Alan Poldory over his.
With that the two Poldory's made a bolt for it just as the train left the tunnel.
They ran straight into the beefy arms of Sgt Triggs and the Trevallion brothers.......
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 04, 2017, 05:07:58 pm
Already briefed by Alan Poldory for just such an event, Elijah Vernon, still standing in the RFO's vestibule, immediately gave the train's communication cord a sharp tug and prepared to open the coach's door, for a quick getaway, as soon as the train screeched to a halt.

Worriedly, the Bulleid Pacific's crew looked back down their rapidly slowing train for an indication from the train's guard as to what was happening whilst the guard gazed back along the train equally perplexed.

On board, standing passengers were thrown off their (unsteady) feet and glasses and bottles went crashing onto the floor, including the Chief Steward's beloved GWR logo glasses (preventing, though, discovery of which glasses contained alcohol and which did not). Shouts, cries, and cursing could be heard all through the carriages.

As soon as the train had come to a stop, the guard leapt out and hurried back down the line to set the warning detonators to protect the crowded special from a rear-end collision. The fireman also climbed down and set off in the opposite direction in search of one of the newly installed telephones mounted on a signal to inform the nearest signalbox that their train was stopped in section.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on June 04, 2017, 05:22:44 pm
Wouldn't like to be in their shoes.........
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 04, 2017, 05:38:57 pm
Quite!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 04, 2017, 07:48:33 pm
Elijan pulled the communication cord and opened the door as instructed, fully expecting the Poldory brothers to jump from the train.
The brothers were however restrained by the Trevallions and Sgt Triggs who marched the two of them to the guatds compartment.
By this time the train had restarted, both driver and guard happy that all was well and had arrived at Gloucester where the hoards disembarked and made for Kingsholm via various local hostelries.
The Poldorys were kept in the guard's compartment under lock and key and guarded by PC Jarvis from the local constabulary awaiting the train's return to Cornwall.
The match was a triumph for Cornwall, dereating Gloucestershire by 33 points to 18. The travelling fans could be heard celebrating and singing the Trelawney anthem in full voice as they approached the station ready for the trip home.
Giles and Jeremy meanwhile had not forgotten what had earlier transpired......
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 04, 2017, 08:18:47 pm
"You know, Jeremy", said Giles, as they climbed on board the RFO coach and settled back in their well-padded reserved seats for the long journey home, "whilst it was great fun defeating those Poldory brothers, I can't help thinking that all that money we won from them wasn't really theirs, to begin with, but was tricked from others less skilled than you and I."

"You flatter me, Giles, it was all down to you. I was as nervous as hell towards the end! But you, you played like a champion. But, you're right, my friend, it feels wrong to keep all those winnings . . . as much as I'd like to."

Giles sighs, and orders a round of real G&Ts. "You know I had a nice little diamond ring in mind from a certain jeweller's in Hatton Garden for a certain . . ."

"Young Breton lady," grinned Jeremy. "Yes, I know . . . Marielle."

"But it just wouldn't feel right buying it for her with . . . other people's money," said Giles, shaking his head.

"I fully agree. But, how do we know how much to return to whom?"

"Hmm, that's a puzzler and no mistake!"

The guard blew his whistle as the last carriage door was slammed shut. After the slightest hint of wheel slip, the Bulleid Light Pacific took a firm grip on its train and began slowly, then more swiftly, accelerating its train of (mostly) extremely happy Cornishmen out of Gloucester.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 04, 2017, 08:45:23 pm
Meanwhile, securely locked in the security cage of the guard's compartment of the Brake Second coach, Elijah Vernon (held as a possible accessory and to be fined £5 for misusing a train communication cord) and the Poldory brothers contemplated a long, joyless journey standing all the way, followed by a trip in a 'Black Maria' from Wadebridge station to Bodmin police station cells. "And everything had been going SO well", groaned Alan Poldory.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: johnlambert on June 04, 2017, 10:22:01 pm
That was a great narrative, Martin & Chris, with shades of Ian Fleming.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 05, 2017, 09:31:47 am
The train, one of several returning to Cornwall that evening pulled away from Gloucester station on time, its bar replenished with stocks of Headland and Castle beers.
Giles and Jeremy relax with their G and Ts.
I have a little secret for you Giles said Jeremy. Whilst you were in the queue for a pre match cup of bovril at the rugger, I was tempted by a local bookmaker. I put a double on Cornwall to win and score 30 points in the process at 6/1 and big Will Armitage to score 2 tries at 10/1. I made a nice little profit of nearly £900 on my 25.00 bet.
You sly old bugger grinned Jeremy.
Here's my plan....."As we've no real way of telling who lost what to those Poldory ruffians we'll give each passenger 20.00. There are about 360 onboard so with the winnings from the card game plus my little flutter we'll have plenty of money to do that"
"Plus, Here's 100.00 to go towards that ring Giles and "we'll put 200.00 behind the bar for the journey home"
"What a great idea and thank you so much for the contribution towards that ring" said Giles.
"One other thing" continued Jeremy, " We'll force those Poldorys and that Elijah Vernon to eat humble pie.....they can take the 20.00 to each and every passenger and apologise for their behaviour. But....there will be no celebratory drink for that trio".
As the journey continued the mood on the train became ever more noisy and celebratory with much bawdy singing.
Giles and Jeremy made a speech thanking Sgt Triggs and the Trevallions for their help in bringing the Poldorys to justice. Indeed Jeremy slipped the sergeant and the brothers an extra tenner each.
"What will happen to those villains?" Asked Giles.
"I've arranged for my colleague  Sgt Evans of Wadebridge to meet them when we arrive back at that station. It'll be up to him how they are dealt with but I know that he has been after them for a while".
As the train neared Cornwall the strains of Trelawney rang out again. Passengers taking great delight in waving their £20 notes in the faces of the three rogues locked in the guard's compartment as they passed by on their way to the bar"
"Soon it'll be time for us to leave the train at Wadebridge" said Giles with a contented and relaxed smile spreading across his face.
With that the train slowed on it's approach to the station......
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 05, 2017, 02:22:43 pm
As the train came to a halt, Giles and Jeremy stepped down onto the platform followed by Sergeant Triggs.
Jeremy had a huge handshake ready for the portly policeman and thanked him profusely for his help as he did the Trevallion brothers who would stay aboard until Port Perran.
Further down the platform boos and hisses started up as the Poldorys and Elijah Vernon were led away by Sgt Evans.
As the train departed Giles said to Jeremy "When we boarded the train this morning, I saw the Trevallion brothers through the carriage window and thought, Oh no, that means trouble but, as ever, looks and reputations can be misleading - those two certainly turned up trumps today"  Giles turned away with a wry smile at his unintended pun.
"What will happen to the Poldorys" said Jeremy. " I don't know but I do know one thing, they won't be playing cards against us again!"
When the train arrived at Port Perran, the Trevallions were given a warm round of applause for their part in the days events.
What gladdened their hearts most however was that Cornwall had won!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 05, 2017, 05:18:06 pm
On the return journey, a constant stream of happy Cornishmen had stopped on their way to the buffet coach's bar to effusively thank Jeremy and Giles for their skill at poker and tremendous generosity and to warmly shake their hands.

Sergeant Triggs and the Trevallion brothers had also received many thanks as they had escorted the Poldory brothers and their accomplice down the train as they gave each stunned adult passenger four crisp dark blue £5 notes, depicting the helmeted Britannia, (quite a few fathers, uncles, and grandfathers had brought their sons, nephews and grandsons along for the special occasion). With each £20 handed over the Poldory's ashen faces grew ever longer. When the brothers, finally, reached the guard's compartment at the very end of the train, they were quite happy to be returned to the security cage, with the sullen Elijah, in padlocked confinement.

Much later, as Jeremy and Giles stepped out of the still quite full train, at Wadebridge, the two friends were very surprised to find the Wadebridge Town Band on the platform which, immediately, struck up, "See The Conquering Heroes, Come!" with great enthusiasm.

"This can't be for US, surely?" exclaimed Jeremy. "Yes, indeed it is, young sirs!" smiled the bowler-hatted stationmaster, greeting them. "We received a telegram from Gloucester some hours ago informing us of your success, as well as Cornwall's, of course!" he hastily added. The two friends shook their heads in genuine surprise.

Whilst they stood to listen to the local brass band, crates of "Castle" and "Headland" best bottled ales could be seen being loaded into the guard's compartment for the crew of the rugby special to take home to enjoy as they had been unable to share in the long and highly enthusiastic onboard celebrations.

After bemusedly thanking the band members, the two friends were about to cross the island platform, to await the next Bodmin to Penmayne local train, when the Stationmaster, still walking alongside, informed them that Trevelver Castle's Head Butler was waiting for them, outside the station.

As the special picked up speed, from the Pacific's cab, the buffet car windows, and the guard's compartment, the fireman, the Chief Steward and his crew, and the guard, all waved enthusiastically, whilst the driver made the loco. give a long, slow whistle of farewell. The windows of the multi-coloured carriages, too, were lined with happy, smiling passengers, clapping and cheering.

"Now, WHAT can the Head Butler want?" wondered Giles. "No, idea," replied Jeremy as they set off for the station entrance over the concrete footbridge. "Let's go to see. It's already been quite a day!" Another long farewell whistle sounded from the receding Pacific as it headed for Trepol Bay where the SR loco. and its tired crew would be replaced by WR ones.

Ahead of them, Sergeant Evans and two Bodmin police constables walked the three handcuffed accomplices, with drooping heads, to the waiting police van.

At the station entrance, after taking their tickets, the stationmaster shook the two young men's, now very sore, right hands and bid them farewell. As soon as they left the station entrance, there was a tremendous burst of female cheers, and Marielle rushed up to Giles and, throwing her shapely arms around the wine merchant, gave him a big kiss full on the lips. "You're MY hero!" she exclaimed breathlessly, "we heard how you defeated those scoundrels and returned all the money that they tricked from the passengers! I'm SO proud of you!" More demurely, just behind her, Sylvia, stepped forward and hugged the beaming Jeremy. "And you're MY hero!" she exclaimed. Behind them, the other "Chelsea Girls" were cheering, clapping and jumping up and down, in a most unladylike fashion. Monique, with two fingers in her lovely lips was even whistling long and loud. With a discreet cough, Trevelver Castle's Head Butler, then stepped forward, and, briefly, released from their girl's embrace, shook each young man's hand long and energetically, too. "Very well done. But, then, I expected nothing less from you two! Come, our coach is waiting just over there." He indicated a shining pale blue motor coach. The coach's driver, standing by the vehicle's open entry door, clapped enthusiastically as the small party of laughing friends boarded.

"This is ridiculous, Giles," exclaimed Jeremy. "Anyone would think we had won the match and not just a game of poker! Well, not just ANY game of poker," he hastily added.

"Don't be silly, Darling," exclaimed Sylvia, stroking Jeremy's tired right hand. "Without you two, there would have been FAR less to celebrate on the return journey. That was a LOT of money."

"And", added Marielle, "those three crooks would not have been caught, either, without your skilfull play!"

"Mmm, let's not forget, either, Sergeant Triggs and the Trevallion brothers, as it was them that caught those three, not us!" Replied Giles, grinning broadly, as Marielle had slipped her right arm, tightly, around him and the delicious scent of her French perfume was now very close to his nose as she rested her beautiful head on his tired shoulders.

"Yes", exclaimed Belinda, "everyone's certainly changed their opinion of those Trevallions!"

In the two seats behind Giles and Marielle, Jeremy and Sylvia were laughing as he, modestly, recounted the highlights of the poker game. Behind them, the rest of the "Girls" clustered close so as not to miss a single detail.

"Please, do be seated," called their driver. "Our journey won't be long."

And it was not. Very soon the blue coach drew up outside "The Railway Hotel", Cant Cove, where the entire staff of the hotel as well as the station, opposite, had gathered to clap and cheer. Bottles of chilled champagne and elegant crystal glasses were taken on board and, as the coach slowly drove off, once more, the Head Butler expertly served all the happy passengers with sparkling chilled flutes whose refreshing contents they enjoyed whilst the coach climbed uphill before turning off onto the long gravel driveway up to Trevelver Castle where a sumptuous celebration dinner awaited them in the Great Hall. As soon as the guests arrived, welcomed by Lord and Lady Trevelver, a string quartet began to play in the Minstrels' Gallery.

It was a day that no-one would ever forget; most for the very best of reasons!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 05, 2017, 06:40:06 pm
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/E65A0B40-1EA0-45D9-9F35-537BCEC45E60_zpsd8xs2pgb.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/E65A0B40-1EA0-45D9-9F35-537BCEC45E60_zpsd8xs2pgb.jpg.html)
The train worked westwards from Trepol Bay headed by a commendably clean Grange 4-6-0 seen here nearing Port Perran where several more passengers will alight including the Trevallion brothers.
They were met at Port Perran by the Lord Lieutenant of Cornwall who had personally arranged a buffet supper at the Cornish Arms to celebrate not only Cornwall's win but also the part played by the Trevallions in the capture of the three rogues earlier.
As the train left Port Perran headed towards Penzance, the band at the Cornish Arms were already striking up a celebratory tune.
The dancing, feasting and drinking went on well past midnight..........and so endeth  an eventful day and an eventful tale with a happy ending all round.
 :beers:

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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 05, 2017, 07:33:35 pm
Thank you, Martin, for a most entertaining tale and excellent photos. of the train.
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Post by: Innovationgame on June 05, 2017, 08:26:12 pm
What a wonderful story!  Certainly much better than anything the Archers could have conjured up.
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Post by: cornish yorkie on June 06, 2017, 12:09:33 am
 :hellosign: An excellent story Martin & Chris, very entertaining
       regards Derek.
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Post by: Steamie+ on June 06, 2017, 07:07:12 am
Well Martin & Chris i don’t know about other members who have read this, but i was enthralled by it and my imagination was in overdrive again, just like it was when i was a little boy reading stories about the adventures of The Famous Five and especially "Swallows and Amazons”, has i had all my six week holidays in The Lake District.

You have both given a new light to our hobby, i can’t wait for the next episode you both write about. You both could publish these stories and make a living from them i’am sure. BRILLIANT WORK    :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:     
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 06, 2017, 04:56:37 pm
Thank you, Steamie. I'm sure that there will be at least one more story, soon. There are plenty of interesting events going on in North and West Cornwall (and beyond), this summer.
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Post by: austinbob on June 06, 2017, 05:01:34 pm
Well Martin & Chris i don’t know about other members who have read this, but i was enthralled by it and my imagination was in overdrive again, just like it was when i was a little boy reading stories about the adventures of The Famous Five and especially "Swallows and Amazons”, has i had all my six week holidays in The Lake District.

You have both given a new light to our hobby, i can’t wait for the next episode you both write about. You both could publish these stories and make a living from them i’am sure. BRILLIANT WORK    :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:   
These stories have been published for our enjoyment for some considerable time now Steamie. I'm waiting in hope for the omnibus kindle edition to be published.   :) :thumbsup:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 06, 2017, 05:14:19 pm
Thank you, Bob. That's very flattering. (I have still to finish a Christmas story . . .) An omnibus edition (tidied up text, maps, glossary, dramatis personae, etc.) as a .PDF would be easy and could be emailed. I understand publishing on Kindle is not very difficult but I'd have to take the time, later, to learn how.

I'm definitely inspired by 1960s stories and books on 1960s Swinging London and the railways in Cornwall. Martin is the expert on Cornish matters.

There is still the story of the Trevelver Castle "Golden Hoard / Horde" to complete. I'm sure that Martin is pondering more stories about local characters in Trepol Bay and Port Perran.

There are more stories involving the inhabitants of Trevelver Castle, the "Chelsea Girls" and their friends, too, as well as Doctor Who and Susan. However, I'm conscious of the need to not stray too far from the railways.
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Post by: austinbob on June 06, 2017, 05:17:49 pm
Lots to look forward to....
 :)
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Post by: port perran on June 06, 2017, 08:08:32 pm
I have another story involving Port Perran, Trepol Bay and Cant Cove lined up for later this Summer.
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Post by: austinbob on June 06, 2017, 08:12:56 pm
I have another story involving Port Perran, Trepol Bay and Cant Cove lined up for later this Summer.
Bring it on Port Perran. :)
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Post by: cornish yorkie on June 07, 2017, 12:13:58 am
I have another story involving Port Perran, Trepol Bay and Cant Cove lined up for later this Summer.
:hellosign: Looking forward to more Martin
    regards Derek.
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Post by: Steamie+ on June 07, 2017, 07:16:50 am
Really looking forward to the new episode from down Cornwall.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: port perran on June 09, 2017, 06:12:45 pm
After clearing a backlog of other jobs the painters at the CLPG at Port Perran and at the Trepol Bay wagon works have started work on a very big contract to paint a large batch of wagons into the colours of various local companies including, Headland Brewery, Prisk & Jones Fruit & Veg merchants and Port Perran Timber Works in the first batches.
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Post by: austinbob on June 09, 2017, 06:18:34 pm
Look forward to seeing those...
 :)
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Post by: port perran on June 09, 2017, 08:11:39 pm
The painters (actually it was me) became somewhat distracted by the end of the Bangladesh v New Zealand cricket so all painting work finished early today.
Meanwhile, the annual Samphire season has started a little early this year with the very first examples of the local seagrass delicacy arriving at The Trepol Bay fish distributors earlier today.
Local hoteliers are very keen to get hold of the delicacy to enhance their weekend fish menus. As such the early, delicately tasting samphire commands high prices.
The first two wagonloads are seen loaded up at Trepol Bay harbour about to be worked up to the station yard by the local class 04 shunter:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/6B9821C8-8409-47C7-B347-8307209AF22B_zpsxeaa2r8g.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/6B9821C8-8409-47C7-B347-8307209AF22B_zpsxeaa2r8g.jpg.html)
A few moments later the 04 and two vans work up the incline away from the harbour as aT9 departs the station bound for Wadebridge. A Southern National bus for Padstow crosses the bridge (oops- Sorry I need to rectify that gap in the backboard):
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/CAAA8A90-62BE-4B2F-A0D1-CF55236BDC6B_zpsyl2lkyhf.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/CAAA8A90-62BE-4B2F-A0D1-CF55236BDC6B_zpsyl2lkyhf.jpg.html)
Later the first van is added to a local to Truro (worked by a 64xx pannier). Boxes of samphire grass will be unloaded at most intermediate stations en-route:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/47AA1796-4CBC-43FD-ADEC-632416DE6265_zps0ouq362j.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/47AA1796-4CBC-43FD-ADEC-632416DE6265_zps0ouq362j.jpg.html)
45 minutes later the same train is seen arriving at Port Perran.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/D45DBC77-89D1-4969-A619-C8B11D8EAAFB_zpsmnnjqm9l.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/D45DBC77-89D1-4969-A619-C8B11D8EAAFB_zpsmnnjqm9l.jpg.html)
Finally the 2nd van has been attached to a local for Wadebridge ( from where the van will work forward to Cant Cove and Penmayne) seen leaving Trepol Bay station behind an Ivatt 2-6-2T. The 04 waits to work an empty Creech Ales Brewery wagon back down to the harbour warehouse of the Headland Brewery.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/2268DA3E-5C91-47B6-813F-91A68BD6133D_zpskbyr6nqs.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/2268DA3E-5C91-47B6-813F-91A68BD6133D_zpskbyr6nqs.jpg.html)
Local food lovers are eagerly awaiting their first taste of the early season samphire and are prepared to pay well, very well indeed,  for the privilege.
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Post by: Milton Rail on June 09, 2017, 08:28:22 pm
Great pictures Martin - Masterchef must have been a boon for the Samphire industry!
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Post by: Newportnobby on June 09, 2017, 08:46:24 pm
Smashing pics, Martin. Thank you.
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Post by: austinbob on June 09, 2017, 08:49:06 pm
 :drool:
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Post by: Steamie+ on June 10, 2017, 06:54:11 am
Great bit of painting Martin.    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: cornish yorkie on June 10, 2017, 12:09:25 pm
Hello Martin, many thanks for the latest :greatpicturessign: all is looking superb
   regards Derek.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 10, 2017, 12:25:28 pm
Many thanks for a set of excellent photos. You had ideal sunlight, I see.

The ancient fish van, usually used for the samphire traffic between Trepol Bay and Cant Cove being out of traffic for axlebox repairs, an ER Fruit Van, which had arrived at Trepol Bay with a consignment for Prisk & Jones, Fruit & Veg merchants, has been 'borrowed' instead. Photos. of the train arriving at Cant Cove will be posted, soon. (The Breton head chef of "The Station Hotel" is highly appreciative of the superb quality of the samphire from the Trepol Bay area and will be preparing special fish dishes to accompany it.)
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Post by: port perran on June 10, 2017, 07:15:59 pm
The paint team at the CLPG workshop in the old goods shed at Port Perran have been working extremely hard.
The first 4 of the private owner wagons are rolled out of the yard by a pannier tank :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/0B7B174E-3266-4595-8AC4-3C421CE478CE_zpsbf5tt6tp.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/0B7B174E-3266-4595-8AC4-3C421CE478CE_zpsbf5tt6tp.jpg.html)
The first wagon is in the brand new livery of the Trepol Bay Timber Merchants followed by 2 vans in the green livery of Messrs Prisk and Jones (Fruit and Veg merchants) then a single van in the black of the Headland Brewery.
The restored Collett 0-6-0 in GWR livery is undergoing minor repairs to a leaking steam gland.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2017, 07:15:42 am
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent photo. of some very nicely painted goods stock. The livery of the timber merchants' wagon is an excellent choice of colour; however, the painters have yet to paint the inside walls. The CLPG (at Cant Cove and Penmayne) is looking forward to their SWB ex-ER sliding door spare parts vans having admired the prototype, last year, at Trepol Bay.
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Post by: port perran on June 11, 2017, 09:18:03 am
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent photo. of some very nicely painted goods stock. The livery of the timber merchants' wagon is an excellent choice of colour; however, the painters have yet to paint the inside walls. The CLPG (at Cant Cove and Penmayne) is looking forward to their SWB ex-ER sliding door spare parts vans having admired the prototype, last year, at Trepol Bay.
The spare parts vans are painted already. Just awaiting their signboards.
The open wagons will move on to Trepol Bay for interior painting.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2017, 09:24:48 am
Many thanks, Martin. That's excellent news. (Whilst I know you don't enjoy painting goods stock as much as I do, the photographed models look excellent.) With the continuing arrival of WR and SR motive power, the CLPG urgently requires mobile storage for spare parts. As a result of a series of contracts recently signed by the "Castle Estates" top salesman, Brandon Williams, for the supply of top quality timber, the new timber wagons will be rapidly placed in service across the country.
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Post by: port perran on June 11, 2017, 07:32:17 pm
News of the early season samphire harvest has travelled fast.
In the North West of England the inhabitants of the coastal towns around Morecambe Bay believe that the samphire grass growing in the bay to be the very best in Britain. A claim hotly disputed in Cornwall.
As a result, Cornish chefs issued a challenge to their Northern colleagues.
This had resulted in a wagonload of Morecambe samphire being despatched to Cornwall accompanied by half a dozen of the North Wests finest chefs.
The van plus carriage conveying the chefs is seen arriving at Trepol Bay having been detatched from a main line train at Wadebridge.
The train from Wadebridge is somewhat unusually hauled by a 94xx pannier:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/6CB64985-242E-4D3A-8B92-F68BF4DFA5BE_zpst4gkifhr.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/6CB64985-242E-4D3A-8B92-F68BF4DFA5BE_zpst4gkifhr.jpg.html)
Chefs from Cornwall and the Morecambe Bay area will be competing against each other at various local hotels and restaurants hoping to prove which area grows the finest samphire grass.
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Post by: port perran on June 11, 2017, 07:35:01 pm
Later the same evening a most unusual train passed through Trepol Bay hauled by two 4-6-0s , Manor and Grange, heading fronTruro towards Wadebridge.
Ex GW 4-6-0s are not unusual in the area but a double headed duo is an extreme rarity:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/8AF37640-F301-4A78-A9B3-82F611B64771_zpscswgaq5d.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/8AF37640-F301-4A78-A9B3-82F611B64771_zpscswgaq5d.jpg.html)

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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2017, 08:09:54 pm
Thanks for two more excellent and very interesting photo. stories, Martin.

The long-standing rivalry between the 'French' head chefs of the "Railway Hotel" (Swiss-French, Michel Pronin), Trepol Bay and "The Railway Hotel" (Breton, Madern Pennec), Cant Cove is very well-known. However, in the face of a challenge from the Northwest, local rivalries are put aside. A series of elimination rounds are agreed hosted by the two top hotels with the Grand Final to be held in the Great Hall of Trevelver Castle and its adjoining Great Kitchen. However, the first round will be held in the "Railway Hotel", Trepol Bay, and already bets are being placed as to which of the two competing chefs will be eliminated.

There is much local speculation as to why a train from Truro to Wadebridge would be double-headed by a "Manor" in GWR livery and a recently transferred BR "Grange". The most popular suggestion is that it is connected with the Summer's program of special trains for visiting enthusiasts.
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Post by: port perran on June 11, 2017, 08:19:09 pm
A team of 4 chefs has travelled down to Cornwall from the North West bringing finest quality samphire grass collected from Bolton-Le-Sands, the train having departed from Hest Bank, the nearest station .
The Head Chef, from the Bayside Hotel Morecambe, Wally Percival, is quietly confident of victory having triumphed  at the North of England Seafood Challenge competition last year with his dish of Hard Fried Dover Sole, new season potatoes, wilted butter steamed spinach and warmed samphire grass.
We await the results of the challenge in North Cornwall.
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Post by: Steamie+ on June 13, 2017, 09:33:48 am
The challenge was taken up by the Head Chef Wally Percival because of the little phone call he had from the Head Chef at the “Railway Hotel” in Trepol Bay, a little argument ensured between the two old friends, who both trained under the Head Chef, François Dupont who was very famous at the exclusive Goring Hotel in Belgravia, across from Buckingham Palace. The old friends who talked about their times at the “Goring” with great affection and what they had got up too when training under François Dupont, had for some time been undecided on where the best Semphire was grown, so a bet was wagered on who had the best and Wally from the Bayside Hotel took up the challenge and asked some of his counterparts from around the Morecambe Bay area to help him.

So Alun Peacock from the little hotel nestled next to the Old Man in Coniston “TheYewdale” Ben Liversey from the “Bridge” at Swarthmore Hall” in Ulverston and the two Chefs from the “Mannings” a very nice exclusive hotel on the water edge at Windermere Head Chef, Patrice Laort and the very old friend of both Chefs from the Bayside Wally and the Chef from “The Yewdale” Alun.

All 5 Chefs made their way to the station at Hest Bank and went on the very early 04.37 to Manchester before changing for Cornwall.
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Post by: port perran on June 13, 2017, 09:20:55 pm
It appears that competition will be fierce.
Many locals in Cornwall believe that this season will be the best for some 25 years for the samphire grass. The combination of warmish weather and good periods of sunlight making for an extra sweetness in the early season shoots.
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Post by: Steamie+ on June 14, 2017, 07:53:55 am
On their way down to Cornwall, Wally and Alun, the two old friends were contemplating over a few whiskey’s  on the challenge ahead, Wally was thinking about the Chef at the “Railway Hotel”  in Trepol Bay an very old friend of Wally’s, who he hasn’t seen for some 20 years, he was the Chef who inspired him to be a Chef, because has a child, Wally lost his Mother through illness and it was he who at the age of 14 did most of the cooking for the family, mainly because his father, who was a General Dealer, worked from early light until well into dark, he did this all his life even though he need not do it, has they were comfortably off and could afford housekeepers, they did the housework has a family, thats why Wally’s parents took all the family on their six week school holidays to the Lakes, though Wally’s Father always kept his eye open for a deal.
Wally thought about his friend from the Railway Hotel, Michel Pronin, who is very well regarded has being one of the very top Chef’s in the country and it will be hard to beat him, but Wally thought about it again and said to himself “I better stop drinking these and get my head around what i can come up with to try and beat Michel” then he heard Alun say another Wally, oh, okay just one more then Alun.....
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Post by: port perran on June 15, 2017, 07:33:52 pm
The two friends , Alun and Wally aren't big drinkers but Alun was well aware that the steward in the buffet car on the train, being Scottish, kept his bar extremely well stocked with single malt whisky.
The steward thoroughly recommended a Talisker Cask strength single malt at 57% proof. Alun, not being a student of single malts immediately ordered two large glasses.
Both chefs enjoyed the warm peaty flavour with notes of soft fruit and fresh chillies which was extremely smooth, drinkable and warming.
The whisky, together with the gentle rumbling of the train over the rail joints had a somewhat soporific effect on the two chefs who were due to leave the London bound express at Crewe for a connection to the South West.
The train left Crewe for Euston behind a Stanier pacific with a gentle snoring sound emanating from the chef's compartment.
Meanwhile, in Cornwall the chefs taking part in the contest were making final discreet and subtle amendments to their recipes.
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Post by: port perran on June 15, 2017, 08:14:44 pm
The early evening local from Chacewater to Newquay (all stops) is normally formed of a 14XX with autocoach. This evening the autocoach was declared a failure before departure with a cracked wheel (detected by the local wheeltapper).  As a spare collett compsrtment carriage was lying in the siding at Chacewater it was hurriedly substituted  for the autocoach.
The rather unusual combination has just departed Port Perran :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/9474E70E-CF89-4BBE-B3F1-927564CA8E09_zpsmh8ok26y.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/9474E70E-CF89-4BBE-B3F1-927564CA8E09_zpsmh8ok26y.jpg.html)

Fifteen minutes later a pannier with local goods is seen leaving Perran Sands Halt, shortly to pass over the girder bridge spanning Penwinnick Creek :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/273EC608-EFC6-462B-A6E9-5BD016AF0A53_zpshplllbrw.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/273EC608-EFC6-462B-A6E9-5BD016AF0A53_zpshplllbrw.jpg.html)


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Post by: cornish yorkie on June 15, 2017, 09:47:38 pm
 :hellosign: Very nice photos Martin, the second in monochrome really is special, thanks for sharing.
The two friends , Alun and Wally aren't big drinkers but Alun was well aware that the steward in the buffet car on the train, being Scottish, kept his bar extremely well stocked with single malt whisky.
The steward thoroughly recommended a Talisker Cask strength single malt at 57% proof. Alun, not being a student of single malts immediately ordered two large glasses.
Both chefs enjoyed the warm peaty flavour with notes of soft fruit and fresh chillies which was extremely smooth, drinkable and warming.
The whisky, together with the gentle rumbling of the train over the rail joints had a somewhat soporific effect on the two chefs who were due to leave the London bound express at Crewe for a connection to the South West.
The train left Crewe for Euston behind a Stanier pacific with a gentle snoring sound emanating from the chef's compartment.
Meanwhile, in Cornwall the chefs taking part in the contest were making final discreet and subtle amendments to their recipes.

  Hope Alun & Wally realise soon or it will be a very long way to Cornwall.
      regards Derek.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 15, 2017, 10:07:16 pm
Thanks, Derek. Many thanks, Martin, for the two excellent photos., and the continuation of the chef story. I hope to post more, tomorrow.
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Post by: Innovationgame on June 16, 2017, 07:09:35 am
The train left Crewe for Euston behind a Stanier pacific with a gentle snoring sound emanating from the chef's compartment.
Meanwhile, in Cornwall the chefs taking part in the contest were making final discreet and subtle amendments to their recipes.
Oh! Mr Porter, what shal I do?
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 16, 2017, 05:49:55 pm
Despite instinctively uniting against the team of five chefs who were to travel down to Cornwall from the North West, it was not long before the Breton head chef of Cant Cove's "The Railway Hotel", Madern Pennec, reverted, as was his long-standing habit, to exaggeratingly disparaging the culinary abilities of his Swiss-French rival, Michel Pronin, of Trepol Bay's "Railway Hotel", specifically what would someone from land-locked Switzerland, unlike his sea-swept Britanny, know about preparing and cooking sea fish and samphire grass! The partisan locals, who are well-used to, and amused by, this vocal rivalry, made sure that Monsieur Pronin was quickly informed of Pennec's latest pronouncement.
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Post by: port perran on June 16, 2017, 09:05:05 pm
I had a bit of a running session this evening so here are a couple of short videos taken at Trepol Bay.
First a short freight heading towards Wadebridge headed by a Standard 5 4-6-0 :
https://youtu.be/mIQNsH_VL_o
Next a passenger formed of Bulleid stock and headed by a D65XX diesel en-route non stop from Newquay to Truro  :
https://youtu.be/7Vwx3hQYRMI


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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 17, 2017, 09:27:11 am
Thank you for these two very nice videos, Martin. A fine variety of rolling stock.
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Post by: port perran on June 18, 2017, 08:30:50 pm
Despite instinctively uniting against the team of 4 chefs which had travelled down to Cornwall from the North West, it was not long before the Breton head chef of Cant Cove's "The Railway Hotel", Madern Pennec, reverted, as was his long-standing habit, to exaggeratingly disparaging the culinary abilities of his Swiss-French rival, Michel Pronin, of Trepol Bay's "Railway Hotel", specifically what would someone from land-locked Switzerland, unlike his sea-swept Britanny, know about preparing and cooking sea fish and samphire grass! The partisan locals, who are well-used to, and amused by, this vocal rivalry, made sure that Monsieur Pronin was quickly informed of Pennec's latest pronouncement.
Unbeknown to Madern Penec, Michel Pronin had, in 1958, undertaken a seafood cookery course in Newquay unter the tutorship of the renowned seafood chef Richard Steinforth.
Pronin had shown immense talent during the six week course honing his new found skills at his own small fish restaurant at Yvert (in France) on the shores of Lake Geneva,
In 1961 Michel Pronin had returned to Cornwall and upon the recommendation of Steinforth had been appointed to the post of head chef at the Station Hotel in Trepol Bay.
Meanwhile.....the chefs travelling overnight from the North West awoke, somewhat startled at 6-00am in the morning as their train (which they should have left at Crewe) passed through Watford Junction. Heads were throbbing after one (or perhaps three) too many whiskys.
Thought turned, somewhat blurred in an alcoholic haze, of the competition in Cornwall in less than 36 hours. But in 49 minutes they would be at Euston, not Wadebridge as planned!
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 24, 2017, 12:45:26 pm
Just then a Travelling Ticket Inspector entered Alun and Wally's compartment to see if there were any tickets to take before the train arrived at Euston. Alun quickly explained their predicament. The Inspector quickly calculated the excess fare which Wally paid being given a paper receipt from the railwayman's pad.

"You'd best take the Northern line tube to Waterloo or, if you have heavy luggage, there is a London Transport red bus from outside Euston which will take you to Waterloo without having to climb any stairs. Go to the Waterloo ticket office and book your tickets to Wadebridge. You'll need seat and dining car reservations, too. Then look out for the letter sign under which to queue for your train. I often take my Missus and the kids to Trepol Bay, which is near Wadebridge, so I know the procedure well! It's quicker via London than Crewe and Bristol. Have a good journey!"

Alun and Wally thanked the Inspector and began gathering their luggage, together. "We'll take that 'bus, then," said Alun. "Good idea," replied his friend.

Soon they were at Euston station where they found a porter with a hand trolley ready to take them and their suitcases to the bus stop outside. The old station was being demolished to be replaced by a new building and the two friends were grateful to have a guide through the building site that the terminus had become.

Safely on board the bus with their cases, after paying the conductor, they settled down for the short journey to Waterloo station. Alighting, they carried their suitcases to the main ticket office and joined the queue. Leaving his friend, Wally went off to study the nearest timetable sheets for Wadebridge departures. Yawning, he saw that they should be able to catch the 7.30AM to Penmayne, arriving at Wadebridge at 2.02PM, where thy could catch a connecting train to Trepol Bay where they were booked into the "Station Hotel", along with the three other chefs from the Northwest who would be arriving later on the overnight Manchester to Penzance train.

Rejoining his friend in the slowly moving queue for the 7.30AM departure, snaking across the concourse, Wally explained, "Sorry, Alun, the only seats left were in First Class, so I booked two adjoining seats but I managed to get luncheon tickets for the first sitting in the adjacent Restaurant Car which I was warned comes off at Exeter Central."

"That's OK, Wally. It will be good to have some space to stretch out on the over six-hour journey. You keep our place and I'll get us two mugs of tea and bacon sandwiches from that refreshment stall."

"Great idea."

Eventually, they reached the ticket barrier where they showed their tickets and reservations. They were informed that their seats were in the portion signed for Penmayne. Walking down the long train of dark green painted carriages, they found their carriage and the compartment with their seats.

"I was able to get us facing window seats," smiled Wally, as the two friends stowed their suitcases on their respective luggage racks before removing their jackets and hanging them on the hook on each side of the wide window. Alun opened the upper ventilator. The platform was crowded with people searching for the correct carriage in the multi-portioned train.

Finally, the last door was slammed shut on the packed train, the guard blew his whistle and a member of the station staff half-way down the long platform, signalled all was clear for departure to the driver leaning out of the left-hand side of the big green Pacific. He gave an acknowledging whistle and, with a minimum of slipping, the big loco. slowly got the long, heavy train under way. The two friends were on their way to Cornwall and the big competition!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 24, 2017, 04:59:49 pm
The journey from Waterloo was, to the relief of the two chefs, uneventful, allowing the two of them to relax.
They were suitably impressed with the luncheon of crab bisque, pan fried dover sole with new potatoes and (interestingly) new season Cornish samphire. Washed down with a good quality  sauvignon blanc. Although in view of the previous nights excesses both men restricted themselves to one small glass each.
The train was hauled by a Merchant Navy from Waterloo changing engines at Salisbury for an air smoothed West Country Pacific. The train was worked forward  from Exeter to Wadebridge by an elderly T9 4-4-0.
After luncheon the two chefs began making notes in readiness for the dishes they would prepare for the first round of the competition the next day.
Meanwhile, in Cornwall, the chefs representing the Duchy were all practising their dishes and honing their skills. Indeed, Madern Prennec would , that very evening, be creating an extravagent meal for Lord and Lady Trevelver and various guests. Prennec was quietly confident that his creation would be enthusiatically received by his guests.
Meanwhile, at the Station Hotel Trepol Bay, Michel Pronin would prepare his "competition" meal for the local Lions Club, many of whom were well known for their culinary expertise and uncompromising reviews.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 25, 2017, 04:27:57 pm
Alun Peacock and Wally Percival finally arrived in Trepol Bay having had no time to practise their dishes for the semi finals of the competition.
Michel Pronin and Maddern Prennec were well aware of the lengthy and time consuming journey endured by their Northern opponents and as such were quietly confident of a Southern triumph.
The format of the semi final was that the four first choice chefs would be assisted by the other four chefs. Each team of two were to prepare a starter and main course focussing entirely on seafood.
Two teams, one each from North and South would progress to the final, to be held the following day at the Station Hotel, Cant Cove.
The two Northern teams were happy to work together knowing that one pair would go through but such was the rivalry between Prennec and Pronin that they were each determined to knock out the other.
At 7.15 sharp that evening the four teams started their preparations in front of a packed audience at the Station Hotel Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 25, 2017, 04:57:24 pm
The partisan locals were very much hoping for a Cornish victory in the competition but the Master of Ceremonies reminded the crowd and participants that the original aim of the competition was to determine whether it was the samphire of the North West or that of Cornwall would prove the better.
However, such was the rivalry amongst the participants that they saw it as an occasion to prove who was the master chef. The Master of Ceremonies was no less than Hughie Green, a well known TV celebrity and local resident. He reminded all concerned that each course must include Samphire from either The North West or Cornwall. As the northern samphire was carried to Cornwall by train it was , of course, two days old. In order to ensure fairness it was agreed therefore that the Cornish samphire must also be cut two days ago.
The competition was just beginning when Sgt Tom Dickinson, who was present just in case of any trouble caused by excess alcohol consumption, noticed a shady looking character enter the room by a back door carrying a rather scruffy looking plastic bag.......
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 25, 2017, 05:17:08 pm
At exactly the same moment Sarge Dickinson spied two well known locals at the bar, namely the local vagabonds known as the apoldory brothers. Dickinson had "nicked" the Poldorys for minor transgressions in the past but had a healthy respect for the villainous pair. Realising that the Poldorys knew everyone locally, Dickinson says to Alan Poldory " Who is that chap with the bag by the rear door?"
"Oh that's Alf Harris, local bait digger who works the Hayle harbour area. Up to no good I'd wager" replied Alan Poldory.
"Hayle estuary is where the prize samphire is grown if I'm not mistaken" mused Sgt Dickinson. Hmmmm......he thought to himself...........
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: NeMo on June 25, 2017, 05:26:13 pm
Red in the Guardian the other day about a certain celebrity chef who isn't universally loved by the inhabitants of the Cornish fishing village where he runs his seafood restaurant empire. Chief among their complaints are the fact he doesn't buy local fish and that his restaurant are much too expensive for the locals to use, instead catering to the visiting city folk with expense accounts and holiday homes.

Interested to know how Madern Pennec and Michel Pronin get along with the locals?

Are there simmering undertones of class war in Trepol Bay? Do the railway tracks divide the haves from the have-nots? Or is the pan-European brotherhood of the gastronome something that binds the locals together in an appreciation for all things fruits-de-mer?

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 25, 2017, 05:42:05 pm
The Poldory brothers had also noted the advertising handbill carefully and prominently placed by Susan Tregowan, some weeks before, on the hotel guests’ noticeboard at the "Clifftop Hotel", and, despite, the expectation of a hostile reaction to their presence, could not resist returning to Trepol Bay as Alan had a plan to make some easy money . . . despite his younger brother's considerable misgivings.

It had been a difficult journey, in the summer heat, involving a three-mile walk to the nearest stop, Mithian Halt, and then a long wait for the twin diesel railcar train on the platform at the bottom of a cutting. Both brothers had been looking forward to a pint (or three) of "Summer Lightning" nice and cool from being handpumped from the cask in the deep stone cellar.

Susan Tregowan, once the brothers had left the hotel by its back entrance, already knew where they were bound for as she had heard them discussing the notice and the BR train timetable pinned on an adjoining notice board and, as soon as the hotel's owner-manager had left his office to enjoy a cigar in the back garden, had quickly called DI Rule and left a coded message to inform him that all three suspects were away.

Meanwhile, DCI Snapper had spent the afternoon sitting in Trevelver Castle Library repeatedly going over things in his mind, until it was time to depart for Trepol Bay, too.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 25, 2017, 06:29:00 pm
As arranged, as DCI Snapper, in his disguise as an eccentric ornithologist, left Trepol Bay station, DI Rule, now also in disguise, met him for the very short walk to the "Station Hotel" and their reserved seats. At the very least, Snapper reflected, he had an excellent meal to look forward to with carefully chosen wines to accompany each course.

However, what he (and he knew also his colleague) were looking forward to most, were several cool pints of Headland Brewery 'Summer Lightning' Ale. Rule had arranged for the two men to be let in early to ensure that they had exactly the reserved seats that they needed to observe their suspect.

As they entered the empty restaurant, where the final finishing touches were being given to the table settings, and gave their false names to the elderly waitress standing in the door with a checklist on a clipboard, to their considerable surprise, she lent forward and whispered in Rule's ear, "don't worry I won't tell a soul but I always recognise an ex-pupil of mine. Two cool pints of "Summer Lightning" are on their way, gentlemen. Let me show you to your reserved seats."

As they were seated, Rule remembered who their waitress was, his former primary school teacher, Miss Penryn and thanked her by name. He then also recalled that one of her daughters worked at the hotel as the bar manager.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 25, 2017, 07:37:25 pm
With most of the ground floor of the "Station Hotel"'s public areas taken up by reserved tables, the regulars were clustered in and outside the small back bar. Fortunately, it was another lovely summer evening.

Some old tables and chairs had been set up on the paved area under the shade of "Headland Brewery" branded sunshades, a very recent innovation introduced by the advertising firm of Trevelver and Guillou (Wadebridge and London), alias our good friends, leading "Chelsea Girls", Sylvia and Eli who help local companies with advertising, branding, and marketing advice.

Sgt Tom Dickinson had taken up position in a battered old armchair sited so that he could observe the assembled drinkers clustered around the narrow entrance to the hotel's back bar. A glass of cool ginger beer, placed next to his helmet on a wobbly little wooden table, was keeping the policeman refreshed. Dickinson knew that some of the more excitable regulars were not altogether happy at being banished to the hotel's rear. However, his principal concern was the two infamous Poldory brothers who, arriving hot and sweaty, had downed several pints of "Summer Lightning" in quick succession and did not look like stopping. Not a wise decision, the local bobby knew.

Soon after the Poldorys had returned inside for their third pint, a small dishevelled boy, who the sergeant knew belonged to one of Trepol Bay's poorest families, arrived and stood, hesitantly, next to the dustbins that stood at the end of the narrow passageway that went around the back of the hotel. Seeing the boy, Alan had smiled and beckoned him over then taken him out of earshot. After a short exchange of words, the boy had then run past Dickinson with a broad grin, down the passageway and away. The sergeant sighed, Alan was definitely up to something but what? Draining his ginger beer, he replaced his helmet and walked through the open back door into the hotel where, out of sight, he stopped to scribble a note on his notepad.

Seeing Miss Penryn bustling towards the kitchen, he went up to her and passed her his neatly folded note with whispered instructions to give it to the younger of the two carefully described guests sitting at a particular table. The retired teacher smiled and confirmed that she knew exactly who the sergeant meant and bustled off.

Satisfied that Rule would be notified that the Poldorys were present round the back and up to no good, the policeman went to the back bar to order another ginger beer before resuming his seat outside. It was then that he noticed a shady looking character come around the corner and, passing by him, enter the hotel back door carrying a rather scruffy looking plastic bag. After carefully checking the mood of the crowd of drinkers, the policeman, his helmet under his arm, followed the man carrying the bag in through the back door and along the corridor leading to the front of the hotel where all the rooms were taken up by the chefs' competition.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 25, 2017, 08:25:06 pm
After his speedy return, and having learnt from Alan Poldory that the suspicious stranger was a certain Alf Harris, who worked the Hayle harbour area, the sergeant sighed, took a cooling draft of ginger beer and, opening his notebook made a short entry. As he did so, he reflected that if he didn't have to watch the drinkers, he'd have simply grabbed the little boy and asked him just what he was doing and did his parents know that he was hanging around a back bar and he would have questioned the stranger, too, before he had slipped out the front door and into the crowd clustered around the front of the hotel watching the proceedings through the open windows.

But, he could see that the crowd of drinkers are more and more vigorously arguing the merits of 'their' man, Michel Pronin, versus Cant Cove's Madern Pennec whilst also stating that either of them was more than a match for the two pairs of Northen chefs. The drinkers include several crew members of Trepol Bay's fishing fleet and they loudly assert that Michel Pronin always had an eye for the best of their catch and always pays cash, on the spot, and fair prices, too! Although none of them have ever eaten a gourmet meal cooked by any of the local chefs they are all experts on how good a chef, Michel Pronin is and how he is certain to be the final winner.

However, whilst checking that none of the drinkers were getting out-of-hand, the policeman is able to carefully observe the Poldory brothers. Whenever one of the drinkers makes a particularly loud assertion one of the two brothers approaches him and whispers something in his ear. Sometimes the brother is laughed at, but with others the two disappear around the corner and out of sight but shortly return, separately. Every so often, Alan goes up to the bar and has a whispered conversation with the harassed pretty young barmaid who seems unused to the rowdy regulars of the back bar. Then the policeman remembers that she, normally, works the front bar and her boyfriend is a trainee chef in the restaurant kitchen . . .
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 26, 2017, 05:26:23 pm
Michel Pronin had decided on a starter dish of steamed Newlyn crab on a bed of local samphire. A very simple starter but Pronin knew that, correctly seasoned, it would be a winner and would bring out the very best flavour in the loval samphire. He felt certain that this dish alone would be good enough to prove that the Cornish samphire is better than that from Morecambe Bay.
However, Pronin has always steadfastly insisted that in order to get the very best flavour from samphire it absolutely must be fresh from the sea. If possible picked within the hour.
Pronin was not at all happy that he was to use two day old samphire. That's where Alf Harris would come to the rescue. He always provided Pronin with young fresh samphire from Hayle Estuary. Pronin knew that a crisp £20 note would result in a bag of the freshest samphire......................
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 26, 2017, 05:42:44 pm
Alf Harris  slipped the bag down at the side of Pronin's preparation table certain that he had not been spotted. He hadn't reckoned on the eagle eyed Dickinson who prided himself on his ability to spot any form of wrong doing.
Much as Dickinson was a staunch supporter of all things Cornish he was also a stickler for fair play.
Dickinson had a dilema........what should he do?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 26, 2017, 05:59:10 pm
Sergeant Dickinson had a further problem. His orders stated that his priority was to ensure that the Queen's Peace be upheld and, in his opinion, confronting Alf Harris, let alone, 'local hero' Michel Pronin, at this time and place was hardly likely to achieve this whilst leaving the raucous crowd in and around the back bar unattended for any length of time was almost guaranteed not to. Besides, years of experience told him that the Poldory brothers were very likely to be guilty of something far more serious than slipping a fresh bag of samphire in through the back door. On top of that, he knew that DI Rule, in disguise, was sitting in the hotel dining room with a stranger who definitely did not look local but with whom Rule seemed to be on familiar terms. All very curious.

As the sergeant returned to his battered armchair, removed his helmet, and mopped his forehead with a large handkerchief, his mind was already made up. The Poldorys were his priority. What happened in a chefs' competition, unless it threatened the Queen's Peace, was none of his immediate concern. When he next had an opportunity to go inside and saw Miss Penryn he would pass her another note for Rule.

As he enjoyed his ginger beer, the realisation what the Poldorys were, very likely to be up to, was dawning on the policeman. If their baby had not kept him awake recent nights, he felt certain that he would have realised earlier. But how to summon help?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 26, 2017, 07:35:33 pm
Meanwhile, in the hotel's dining room, the two detectives had been carefully but unobtrusively studying their fellow guests. The majority were local notables well-known to Rule who identified them to Snapper with anything interesting known to him about them, but there were some strangers among them: the so-called Sir John Bream, who was sitting with a young, slender, pale-skinned, blonde-haired woman with black-rimmed glasses wearing a long black obviously hired evening dress as it did not fit her at all well, being loose where it should be tight, and who looked rather ill at ease; and the famous archaeologist known as 'Naughty Morty' who was seated with the landlady of the "Seaview" guesthouse, near Perran Sands, Mrs. Wynne Diuset, who seemed to be enjoying herself greatly, her companion less so.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on June 26, 2017, 07:49:28 pm
On top of that he knew that DCI Rule, in disguise, was sitting in the hotel dining room with a stranger who definitely did not look local but with whom Rule seemed to be on familiar terms.
Apparently, Rule has been promoted to DCI since the beginning of this saga and is now on an equal footing weith DCI Snapper.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 26, 2017, 08:07:58 pm
On top of that he knew that DCI Rule, in disguise, was sitting in the hotel dining room with a stranger who definitely did not look local but with whom Rule seemed to be on familiar terms.
Apparently, Rule has been promoted to DCI since the beginning of this saga and is now on an equal footing with DCI Snapper.

Ooops! My error, Laurence. I will correct that. Thanks.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 27, 2017, 01:05:16 pm
The judges for the semi finals of the competition were charged with picking one Northern pair and one Cornish pair to go through to the final to be held at the Station Hotel at Cant Cove.
The judges , four in all, were all impartial chefs from across the country headed by the flamboyant Alexander Farguharson - head chef at the prestigious Imperial Hotelwhich boasted  a Michelin Star restaurant in Belgravia Square London.
Farquharson was keen that all four judges keep a very close eye on the preparation undertaken by the four competing teams. He was also a stickler for absolute cleanliness and soon spotted the rather tatty and somewhat grimy bag by the side of Pronin's table.
As soon as he spotted the chief judge approaching, Pronin was quick to secrete the bag away. But he wasn't nearly swift enough to deceive the sharp eyes of Alexander Farquharson..............
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 27, 2017, 04:09:43 pm
Farquharson bustled over towards Pronin and his assistant chef. The two of them were looking a little harried and furtive.
Farquharson, not renowned for either patience, to,erance or tact looked Pronin directly in the eye " the bag, good sir, the bag. Show me the bag-now".
Pronin was cornered and flustered blurting out "It wasn'tmy idea it was his" - pointing directly at the assistant chef, a young sous chef called Donald Etchworthy.
"I don't care whose at fault Pronin, YOU are the chef and YOU are in command of your team. That is fresh samphire in that bag . I can see it from here. I am eliminating you NOW. Your froend from Cant Cove will go through uncontested"
"But....but...I can explain" stammered Pronin.
"Stop preparations now" roared Farquharson. "Leave now, make an excuse about feeling unwell and your reputation will be untarnished"
Pronin, realising that he was undone simply left muttering something in French resembling "Insecte de Ventre - je suis desole" . He ran from the building leaving his embarassed and red faced assistant to tidy up and leave without further ado.
Meanwhile Maddern Prennec continued to prepare his meal with a wry smile. The two Northern chefs , unsure whathad happened also soldiered on.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 28, 2017, 12:31:06 am
 :hellosign: Many thanks for the story Martin (&Chris), all very exciting stuff & glad to see fair play, looking forward to more
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 28, 2017, 12:30:14 pm
It took some little time for the news of Pronin's expulsion to filter through both to those in the main arena and those in the back bar and outside.
The Poldory brothers had started an illegal book on the outcome of the competition. Secretly accepting bets as to the eventual winner.
Alf Harris who had supplied the fresh samphire to Pronin was  very well known to Alan Poldory who had slipped him two crisp £10 notes to make sure that the bag of fresh samphire was placed near to Pronin's table but in a prominent position. Poldory knew of Farquharson's reputation as a strict disciplinarian and also knew that the discovery of the bag by the chief judge would lead to Pronin's elimination from the competition.
To ensure that the bag would be noticed, Alan Poldory had also bribed Pronin's young sous Chef Donald Etchworthy to ensure that the bag remained in view should Poldory try to secrete it away.
And the purpose of all this enterprise by the Poldorys? Well, of course, they were offering splendid odds of 10-1 on Pronin winning. He was the local favourite and the locals in the Station Hotel were eager to wager a few pounds at such attractive odds. Especially after several pints of Summer Lightning Ale.
The Poldorys were on a surefire winner knowing that Pronin would be disqualified.
By the time news of the chef's departure had filtered through, the Poldorys had amassed bets of over £275 on the local hero. A sum they knew would remain safe in their pockets.
No one could have cottoned on to their little scam surely..........
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 28, 2017, 07:24:34 pm
Meanwhile, the small boy, Tommy Greet had run as fast as he could to the tiny flat where he lived with his Mum, Dad and two sisters. The flat was at the back of the local chip shop and young Tommy was clutching a rather battered £20 note. "Dad, Dad he yelled you're to take the car to the station and pick up those Poldory friends of yours. They gave me this and say double is waiting for you but you must go now".
Back at the Station Hotel the Poldorys had slipped away walking nonchalantly down the road towards the railway statiin. Satisfied that no one had seen them leave.
Meanwhile the competition continued, minus the disgraced Michel Proniin. Maddern Prennec, of course, progressed to the final as the Cornish representative but it was a close call with the two Northern chefs with Wally Percival finally being declared the winner. His main dish of coconut rice with crab meat dressing, steamed samphire and braised mullet just winning through.
The final, to be held in Cant Cove would be a keenly contested affair.
As the results were announced by the head judge, everyone present began to realise that the Poldorys had sneaked away leaving the punters with no redress to their money. Things were starting to turn noisy and nasty. A wiff of revenge was in the air fuelled by copious amounts of Headland Ale.
Meanwhile the Poldory brothers were by now sitting comfortably in the back of Dave Greet's rather battered Morris minor as it left Trepol Bay heading westwards......
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on June 28, 2017, 07:29:40 pm
but it was a close call with the two Northern chefs with
...?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 28, 2017, 07:34:00 pm
but it was a close call with the two Northern chefs with
...?
Apologies Laurence, I accidentally pressed send before I had finished typing. All corrected now.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 29, 2017, 08:02:33 pm
Sarge Dickinson was anxious to restore order at the Station Hotel. The locals were calling for the Poldory's blood with the noise and anger increasing by the minute.
In conversation with the landlord it was agreed that an announcement be made that each person present be given two free drinks if they behaved. Sargeant Dickinson asked Farquharson to make the announcement. Being a trained public speaker Farquharson soon had the attention of the rowdy mob and order was restored.
Dickinson had, somewhat foolhardedly, promised the landlord, Tom Tredinnick, that the cost of the free drinks would be recovered from the Poldory brothers in due course. Quite how Dickinson would recover the money he had no real idea but.....That would have to wait for another day.
Meanwhile, with order more or less restored, the remaining participant chefs left the hotel and boarded the late train to Trepol Bay.
The grand final would be held the next evening......................
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 29, 2017, 08:41:08 pm
DI Rule, having received both the handwritten messages from Sergeant Dickinson, (albeit the second rather late), decided that DCI Snapper could be left alone for a short time whilst he had a covert look at the back bar. So, pretending to have lost his way, he quietly entered the back bar.

There was still a lot of animated complaints and much bad language directed at the absent Poldory brothers but no danger of a riot, he quickly saw. The ever-alert sergeant made his way over to the seemingly confused stranger and gave the disguised detective a verbal briefing.

The two policemen agreed that the Poldorys warranted a visit by the sergeant and a constable but not yet as a far more important investigation was under way. However, the uniformed policeman had already taken many initial statements in his notebook whilst encouraging any aggrieved person to visit the police station which served Trepol Bay to make a sworn statement.

Rule promised Dickinson that the landlord, Tom Tredinnick, would be recompensed with a suitable discount on the next delivery from the Headland Brewery as the Head Brewer and he were friends from primary school and he was sure that the Head Brewer would arrange everything with the brewery Sales Manager with whom Rule and the brewer had attended Bodmin County Grammar School, travelling each day by train.

"We simply can't go after the blasted Poldorys for the money, I'm afraid," whispered Rule, "and I'm not at liberty to explain why, at this time. Next time though, I'd advise you not to promise such a refund. However," he quickly added, "I appreciate that you had to act quickly to prevent the situation getting out of hand. As you well know, there are a lot of important people, including that Hughie Green fellow, and journalists 'out front' and it'd never do for Trepol Bay to get a bad reputation in the national press after all the hard work done to promote the area. The local council, not to mention, Sylvia and Eli, would cetainly have much to say to us!"

"And none of it good!" replied the segeant as the detective turned to go.

"Indeed!"
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 30, 2017, 09:06:43 am
The last train of the evening left a by now quiet and peaceful Trepol Bay behind an N Class mogul at 10.20pm.
All 6 remaining chefs, together with the TV star Hughlie Green and The judges were on board.
By midnight, all were safely ensconced in their rooms at the Station Hotel Cant Cove getting a good nights sleep in preparation for the grand final the next evening.
The final was set to be a grand occasion.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Steamie+ on July 01, 2017, 05:55:43 am
Getting more and more engrossing and intriguing...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 01, 2017, 11:24:23 pm
News of the unexpected withdrawal of Michel Pronin, the head chef of the "Station Hotel", Trepol Bay, had swiftly reached Trevelver Castle where, over tea and scones with Cornish clotted cream and "Castle Estates" strawberry jam, Lady Penelope, her daughter, Sylvia, and Sylvia’s business partner and good friend, Eli, were urgently conferring.

“I’m afraid it’s all a bit of a mess, mummy,” stated Sylvia.

“Ah, your typical English understatement!” cried Eli. “It is a veritable disaster!”

“Yes, yes, my dear, but what to do,” responded Lady Trevelver. “The grand finale is already announced to be held in our Great Hall. The initial round was held at the “Station Hotel”, Trepol Bay, with the semi-final to be held at “The Station Hotel”, Cant Cove, where every table and room is booked and Hughie Green and the four judges, including Alexander Farquharson, have arrived whilst Trevelver Castle has been full of our gastronome friends since Madern Prennec’s superb dinner prepared for us and our guests, last Friday evening.”

“Now, we have five Northern chefs and just the one Southern chef, my compatriot, Monsieur Prennec, and the area is swarming with buzzing journalists all looking for a story; better, a scoop!”, exclaimed Eli.

“I know, I know,” sighed her friend. “All our publicity and public relations work to promote North and West Cornwall is in jeopardy!”

“Fortunately, Alexander Farquharson is a good friend of mine,” announced Lady Penelope, smoothly. “I will suggest to him that the semi-final, held at “The Station Hotel”, Cant Cove, be a contest between the Northern chefs to see which one will go forward to the final, here, to compete against our Madern Prennec. That should make for a very interesting competition. We will send invitations, with First Class return railway ticket vouchers, to all the leading Northern newspapers and put the journalists up, here.”

“Oh, Mummy dear, you are truly a genius,” exclaimed a very relieved Sylvia.

“Alexander Farquharson is a VERY persuasive man. The other three judges will agree, I’m sure; the Northern chefs will enjoy such a competition and there is still plenty of samphire grass. More fresh fish has been ordered from Trepol Bay.”
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on July 02, 2017, 06:59:46 am
But what has happened to the Poldorys?  Will they get clean away, scot-free? (apparently, the scot in scot-free derives from the Scandinavian 'skat', meaning taxes, or so I believe).
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 02, 2017, 08:07:46 am
But what has happened to the Poldorys?  Will they get clean away, scot-free? (apparently, the scot in scot-free derives from the Scandinavian 'skat', meaning taxes, or so I believe).
We must wait and see.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 02, 2017, 11:19:21 am
Whilst the three ladies were discussing over afternoon tea, three other important meetings were also taking place in the area around Cant Cove.

At Castle Trevelver, meeting in his oak-panelled study, Lord Trevelver, DCI Snapper, Giles Roskrow, the Chelsea wine importer and the Head Butler (both ex-SAS), lubricated with the finest reserve Tullibardine malt whisky, were discussing matters of the utmost national security.

Meanwhile, in a roped off area at the end of the garden of "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove, and seated around a table under one of the brand new dark blue "Castle Brewery" sun shades, designed and supplied by the advertising firm of Trevelver and Guillou (Wadebridge and London, alias Sylvia and Eli), supping cool, refreshing pints of "Castle Ale", sat the group of five Northern chefs and the redoubtable Alexander Farquharson.

"Gentlemen, I know that I can rely on you to rise to the occasion. I have five straws here in my hand, the one drawing the shortest will withdraw from the competition. The two who draw the longest straws will form one team and the other pair, the second, with the two teams competing, this evening, here, to see which pair will go forward to the final contest tomorrow evening to be held in Trevelver Castle. Agreed?"
 
The assembled chefs, quickly nodded, knowing very well that a word from Farquharson, in the right ears, could make or break their professional careers.

"Thank you, gentlemen. I knew that I could rely on your support and understanding."

Just then there was a long-drawn-out whistle from the station across from the hotel. The pretty young waitress who, had just brought each a plate of freshly-prepared cold savoury snacks with newly baked bread rolls and rich yellow Cornish butter, explained that it was a special goods train from Trepol Bay and Port Perran bringing fresh fish, vegetables, and fruit for the hotel kitchen along with more "Headland Ales".

Sure enough, a Cornish Locomotive Preservation Group ex-GWR Prairie tank, still in immaculately cleaned BR Lined Green livery, and with a BR WR volunteer crew, had drawn up at the station's Up platform with a short multi-coloured rake of goods vans. The station porter, together with hotel kitchen staff, and supervised by the stationmaster, were quickly loading the white, dark green, and black painted vans' contents onto parcels trolleys and the hotel van to get them across Station Road and into the hotel kitchen, as quickly as possible.

"But, please, don't think that the one who draws the shortest straw will be taking it easy! Oh no! Although he will never admit it, Madern Prennec is desperately in need of some experienced help. Not only does he have to prepare for the Final, tomorrow, but he has to prepare lunch for the hotel guests and his sous-chef de cuisine is, away, at Wadebridge, in charge of the catering on various special trains conveying local, regional, national, and international VIPs! Stepping in as Monsieur Prennec's sous-chef is a task requiring the utmost patience and tact as well as the very highest culinary skills! Before we draw, gentlemen and chefs, I toast you all!"

Their throats refreshed, the five chefs, one by one, took their straws and laid them on the table. To their very considerable delight, Alun Peacock and Wally Percival were one team, with the two chefs from the “Mannings”, a very nice exclusive hotel on the water's edge at Windermere, including its Head Chef, Patrice Laort, a very old friend of both Wally and Alun, the second; whilst Ben Liversey, from the “Bridge” at Swarthmore Hall in Ulverston, was to assist Prennec, a task for which all agreed he was the very best choice.

Also seated in the beer garden, under a similar sunshade, sat DI Rule with Sergeant Tom Dickinson, discussing the Poldorys, and the man claiming to be Sir John Bream and his bespectacled companion, a young, slender, pale-skinned, blonde-haired woman. Knowing the sergeant's utmost dependability and discretion, Snapper and Rule had earlier agreed to inform Dickinson of Susan Tregowan's role in their continuing investigations.

"Miss Tregowan had informed us of a very large metal bound trunk in the so-called Bream's room. However, it was securely locked. Snapper arranged for a key impression outfit to be smuggled to her in a delivery of Lyon's Cakes -- they are distributed, early each weekday by train and railway motor van," explained Rule.

"The necessary impressions were returned to Scotland Yard, the same way and the resultant keys sent in another consignment of cakes to the hotel. With Fiddler away, the resourceful Miss Tregowan should have been able to access the trunk and catalogue and photograph its contents. Your job, Sergeant, will be to meet with her somewhere safe and secluded and bring back what you learn to me, here. We will settle the matter of the Poldory brothers at a more convenient time. There is much else going on but, I regret, I am not able to inform anyone, not even you, about THAT matter!"

Elsewhere, both the Poldorys, as well as the confidence trickster, Fiddler, were also making plans . . .
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on July 02, 2017, 01:23:34 pm
I'm just waiting for the Queen of Hearts to emerge shouting "Off with their heads!".
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 02, 2017, 04:22:53 pm
How did you know that Enka Lou-Lou is known as the "Queen of Hearts", Laurence? 8-)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 02, 2017, 04:25:33 pm
Their meeting with Lady Trevelver successfully concluded, Sylvia and Eli, were sitting on the Castle Terrace under a brand new dark blue “Castle Brewery” sunshade, drinking mineral water bottled at the Castle spring, several glass bottles of which rested in a silver ice bucket, and going through their diaries as they checked the weekend’s preparations. Many tasks had been delegated to other members of the “Chelsea Girls”, who were still staying at the “Cornish Arms”, Port Perran, but some responsibilities were too important to leave to anyone other than themselves . . .

“I’m so glad that we were able to book Enka Lou-Lou, for the after-dinner concert, on the terrace,” grinned Sylvia.

“Yes, I know she’s your absolute favourite singer, Sylvi,” acknowledged Eli, “but, really, she is such a royal pain in the . . ."

“Derrière?” replied her friend.

“Exactly! If she could only bring herself to play the music business game she would be bigger than Françoise Hardy . . . "

“Or Helen Shapiro.”

“Yes.”

“Thank goodness Enka gets on so well with Susan.”

“They’re both very unique young women,” remarked Eli, who also knew what it was to be a ‘stranger in a strange land’.

“True, Eli. Without Susan calming her down and making her laugh, Enka would still be sulking in her room in the Owl Tower! And oh how can she sulk!”

“She wanted us to pay for a whole railway carriage of her friends and to put them up for the weekend. I don’t care if, like Hardy, she is one of the most talented singer-songwriters of today, but she is not entitled to an entourage as big as your Queen’s!”

“Well, she’s here, now, and looking forward to singing, after dinner, tonight and tomorrow. With her looks, her voice, and her wonderful songs, she will have the audience in the palm of her beautiful hands. The Beachcombers are arriving this morning, from Newquay, ready to play in the Castle grounds, this afternoon. A bus will pick them and their gear up at Wadebridge station and bring them here.”

“Oh, Sylvi, they are such charming boys. If only your Enka was as delightful to deal with . . ."

“I just hope that ‘Cornwall’s very own Beach Boys’ remember to stop surfing long enough to get on the Wadebridge train at Newquay station, in time!” laughed Eli’s best friend. “They sing and play in SUCH perfect harmony.”

“Heh! Careful, now; you’re already spoken for, my dear. What WOULD Jeremy say if he heard you!”
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 02, 2017, 06:20:03 pm
Meanwhile, down in the Castle cellars, the Doctor and Sir Mortimer Wheeler were also sitting drinking “Castle Spring” mineral water as, as many times before, they discussed the incredible finds secured behind them. However, neither of them could really focus on a topic which had already been exhaustively debated. Truth to tell the eminent archaeologist was not best pleased to find himself discussing matters with someone whose knowledge had proved to be far greater than what his own very considerable studies had given him. He was also annoyed by a Colonel in the Scots Guards, a certain Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart, who being born in Cornwall, was on friendly terms with Lord Trevelver, the Head Butler and Giles, but although unfailingly polite kept himself and his men well apart and silent as to their responsibilities, despite Sir Mortimer’s wartime rank as an army brigadier. To add to the archaeologist’s annoyance, whilst the Doctor seemed to know the Colonel, the Colonel showed no sign of having met the Doctor, before.

The Colonel was commanding a small group of very well-armed soldiers, sent by ‘the Government’ (the Colonel would not reveal who) to guard the contents of the ‘dig’ and who had arrived without any prior communication with Sir Mortimer. The soldiers had travelled in a sealed brake end carriage attached to the quarter past midnight overnight mail train from Waterloo to Penmayne, an event which had aroused much speculation among the local railway staff.

On arrival at Cant Cove station, at which the train had been especially stopped, the Colonel had wanted the carriage detached and taken up the Castle Branch to be unloaded but, when this was explained as being impossible as only shorter, lighter rolling stock was passed to use the line, had ordered the station cleared and a cordon of his soldiers established around it whilst a covered Royal Navy lorry, organised by RN Penmayne, was driven onto the platform and the contents of the guard’s compartment loaded onto it.

As they chatted in a half-hearted way, the Doctor was savouring the Castle Spring water. Whilst he well knew that the French always talked about the almost mystical significance of ‘terroir’ – the set of all environmental factors that affect a crop's phenotype and, hence, its taste – with his naturally heightened senses, the Time Lord found the unique blend of minerals and trace elements in spring water to be a constant source of far greater, personal delight. Sir Mortimer he had found to be the usual confusing mix of human characteristics: sometimes a light-hearted, amusing and learned companion, but at others dangerous when threatened with frustration; a meticulous implementer of field techniques, the well-known “Wheeler Method”, but (as he had warned Susan), also well-known for his conspicuous promiscuity, especially favouring young women, without regard for any resultant emotional suffering (as the “Chelsea Girls” had emphasised to their – seemingly – younger friend).

For his part, the famous archaeologist, known to many, but not to himself, as "Naughty Morty", was now pre-occupied with the publicity photos., taken by David Bailey, he had seen, where Sylvia had accidentally left them, of the stunning Catalan-Finnish teenage singer-songwriter, Enka Lou-Lou. They showed her as being unusually tall, slim but well-endowed, and with the naturally blonde hair and deep brown eyes of a true Catalan, inherited from her mother which, some said, was a legacy of Phoenician ancestry.

In his favourite photo. – to his lasting distress, Lady Trevelver had firmly but politely swiftly collected them up – Enka was perched on a metal-legged stool, her face half hidden behind a long fringe of blonde hair as she intently played a Spanish acoustic guitar. Her mini skirt revealed legs that seemed incredibly long and slim whilst her tight semi-transparent blouse left little to his fervid imagination. But to his immense frustration, Enka seemed to keep herself to her room in the Owl Tower, where only his granddaughter, Susan, and, he learnt, to a lesser extent, her good friends, Sylvia and Eli, were permitted access. As he walked around the Castle grounds, passing the Owl Tower, the archaeologist could often hear her powerful, almost husky, highly seductive, voice floating out of a high-up open window as she expertly accompanied herself on a variety of acoustic guitars. No wonder they call her the “Queen of Hearts” he sighed to himself.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on July 02, 2017, 06:48:38 pm
I seem to remember Lethbridge-Stewart as a brigadier, but perhaps that was after a subsequent promotion.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: austinbob on July 02, 2017, 06:54:18 pm
Meanwhile, down in the Castle cellars, the Doctor and Sir Mortimer Wheeler were also sitting drinking “Castle Spring” mineral water as, as many times before, they discussed the incredible finds secured behind them. However, neither of them could really focus on a topic which had already been exhaustively debated. Truth to tell the eminent archaeologist was not best pleased to find himself discussing matters with someone whose knowledge had proved to be far greater than what his own very considerable studies had given him. He was also annoyed by a Colonel in the Scots Guards, a certain Lethbridge-Stewart, who being born in Cornwall, was on friendly terms with Lord Trevelver, the Head Butler and Giles, but although unfailingly polite kept himself and his men well apart and silent as to their responsibilities, despite Sir Mortimer’s wartime rank as an army brigadier. To add to the archaeologist’s annoyance, whilst the Doctor seemed to know the Colonel, the Colonel showed no sign of having met the Doctor, before.

The Colonel was commanding a small group of very well-armed soldiers, sent by ‘the Government’ (the Colonel would not reveal who) to guard the contents of the ‘dig’ and who had arrived without any prior communication with Sir Mortimer. The soldiers had travelled in a sealed brake end carriage attached to the quarter past midnight overnight mail train from Waterloo to Penmayne, an event which had aroused much speculation among the local railway staff.

On arrival at Cant Cove station, at which the train had been especially stopped, the Colonel had wanted the carriage detached and taken up the Castle Branch to be unloaded but, when this was explained as being impossible as only shorter, lighter rolling stock was passed to use the line, had ordered the station cleared and a cordon of his soldiers established around it whilst a covered Royal Navy lorry, organised by RN Penmayne, was driven onto the platform and the contents of the guard’s compartment loaded onto it.

As they chatted in a half-hearted way, the Doctor was savouring the Castle Spring water. Whilst he well knew that the French always talked about the almost mystical significance of ‘terroir’ – the set of all environmental factors that affect a crop's phenotype and, hence, its taste – with his naturally heightened senses, the Time Lord found the unique blend of minerals and trace elements in spring water to be a constant source of far greater, personal delight. Sir Mortimer he had found to be the usual confusing mix of human characteristics: sometimes a light-hearted, amusing and learned companion, but at others dangerous when threatened with frustration; a meticulous implementer of field techniques, the well-known “Wheeler Method”, but (as he had warned Susan), also well-known for his conspicuous promiscuity, especially favouring young women, without regard for any resultant emotional suffering (as the “Chelsea Girls” had emphasised to their – seemingly – younger friend).

For his part, the famous archaeologist, known to many, but not to himself, as "Naughty Morty", was now pre-occupied with the publicity photos., taken by David Bailey, he had seen, where Sylvia had accidentally left them, of the stunning Catalan-Finnish teenage singer-songwriter, Enka Lou-Lou. They showed her as being unusually tall, slim but well-endowed, and with the naturally blonde hair and deep brown eyes of a true Catalan, inherited from her mother which, some said, was a legacy of Phoenician ancestry.

In his favourite photo. – to his lasting distress, Lady Trevelver had firmly but politely swiftly collected them up – Enka was perched on a metal-legged stool, her face half hidden behind a long fringe of blonde hair as she intently played a Spanish acoustic guitar. Her mini skirt revealed legs that seemed incredibly long and slim whilst her tight semi-transparent blouse left little to his fervid imagination. But to his immense frustration, Enka seemed to keep herself to her room in the Owl Tower, where only his granddaughter, Susan, and, he learnt, to a lesser extent, her good friends, Sylvia and Eli, were permitted access. As he walked around the Castle grounds, passing the Owl Tower, the archaeologist could often hear her powerful, almost husky, highly seductive, voice floating out of a high-up open window as she expertly accompanied herself on a variety of acoustic guitars. No wonder they call her the “Queen of Hearts” he sighed to himself.
You really need to publish a book about all this... Better still, how about a TV series or a blockbuster movie. Got to be a winner when you see the rubbish opposition on the TV. Bring it on...  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 02, 2017, 07:34:35 pm
Great stuff Chris.
As you know, I've been rather busy this weekend and will be very busy  next week so I'll leave the story largely to you.
I have, however, reinstated the layouts today (rather hot work) so may be able to take s picture or two.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 02, 2017, 08:39:00 pm
I seem to remember Lethbridge-Stewart as a brigadier, but perhaps that was after a subsequent promotion.

Colonel Lethbridge-Stewart gains his promotion to the more familiar rank of Brigadier six years later, in 1968, after UNIT is formed. (UNIT personnel are seconded from the Royal Navy, British Army and Royal Air Force, and are still bound by the UK chain of command, and the commander reports to the Prime Minister and the Ministry of Defence. Hence the involvement of RN Penmayne and RN officer, Jeremy Corentyn Cador.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on July 02, 2017, 08:41:03 pm
Jeremy Corentyn Cador - I thought you were going to say Jeremy Corbyn for a moment.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 02, 2017, 08:42:32 pm
Many thanks, Martin, and AustinBob. I'm trying to organise the recent stories in a coherent timeline in a single document. However, that involves some corrections and clarifications. There is a degree of time field distortion, locally! This is said to be due to an extension of the Cardiff Bay area Space-Time Rift.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 02, 2017, 08:43:55 pm
Jeremy Corentyn Cador - I thought you were going to say Jeremy Corbyn for a moment.

All that lies many years in the future . . .
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 02, 2017, 09:05:28 pm
The Wadebridge Yardmaster was sitting in his favourite Trepol Bay pub, the "Harbour Inn", which being a Free House, stocked both his favourite "Headland" and "Castle" ales plus those from much further afield on draught for visiting holidaymakers, complaining to anyone who cared to listen, about how difficult his job now was with the area packed with special trains from, "God alone knows where!"

One of the regular summer barmaids at the "Harbour Inn" was studying clinical psychology at Exeter University. As she poured him a pint of "Summer Lightning", she prompted him to tell her more.

"Well, apart from the normal Summer Saturday WR and SR specials and those from the LMR and ER, and Britanny, we've got two coaches all the way from Perthshire, two coaches from Somerset, a whole special train from the West Midlands, and, God alone knows where else! I've simply nowhere to stable them all! All the sidings at Penmayne, Cant Cove and Wadebridge are at maximum capacity as are those at Trepol Bay, and even Port Perran. I'm having to send empty coaching stock as far as Truro and Plymouth! And then there are the special goods trains! I know we have to make the railways pay but this level of traffic . . . well, it's beyond me and my mates! If it was not for all the preserved locos., coaches, and volunteer crews this level of train running would be totally impossible!"

The barmaid, responded as she had been taught and, somewhat mollified, the yardmaster took his pint back to his accustomed corner table. At least, he reflected, he had remembered to keep his mouth shut about all those unmarked Royal Navy blue goods vans and wagons with their mysterious loads . . .
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 02, 2017, 11:14:03 pm
Hello, Thanks for the great story Chris & looking forward to photos when you are able Martin
         regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 03, 2017, 09:16:36 pm
Thanks, Derek, and Martin. A new update will appear in a day or two.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on July 07, 2017, 06:57:21 am
We went out for a meal last night and I had the sea bass. The main reason for ordering it was because it came with samphire. I don't think I've ever had it before but it was delicious. Of course, in the North Riding (sorry, it's North Yorkshire now) they don't produce their own so I can't tell whether it came from Cornwall or Morecombe Bay.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 07, 2017, 07:31:18 am
We went out for a meal last night and I had the sea bass. The main reason for ordering it was because it came with samphire. I don't think I've ever had it before but it was delicious. Of course, in the North Riding (sorry, it's North Yorkshire now) they don't produce their own so I can't tell whether it came from Cornwall or Morecombe Bay.
I'm glad you were inspired to try it Laurence. I think it really brings a taste of the sea to a fishy meal.
You can buy imported samphire which is a bit dry but fresh from the sea it really is delicious.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 11, 2017, 12:40:14 pm
After some weeks of visitors, short breaks away and good weather leading to outdoor activities taking precedence, thetwo layouts are now fully back up and running.just a few tweaks this afternoon then, as I've finally mastered the Add Image option, I'll possibly take a snap or two.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 11, 2017, 12:57:42 pm
Excellent news, Martin. I'm looking forward to seeing some photos., including the WR service from Truro-Newquay-Wadebridge hauled by 6803 "Bucklebury Grange" (recently loaned to Truro shed for the Summer timetable on behalf of the Association for the Promotion of Cornwall's Railways) and formed of a standard rake of three Collett design coaches in BR Lined Maroon.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 11, 2017, 03:02:39 pm
So.....at long last!
Here we see (hopfully) 6803 Bucklebury Grange leaving Port Perran bound for Trepol Bay and on to Wadebridge at the hesd of 3 collett carriages:

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And:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/230-110717150221.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53267)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on July 11, 2017, 03:08:39 pm
Two beautiful pictures!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 11, 2017, 03:37:07 pm
Many thanks, Martin. Very good to see those photos.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 11, 2017, 06:01:43 pm
Great pictures Martin,  :thankyousign:

I haven't ignored your excellent looking story line, just trying to find enough time to read it all in one go !!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 11, 2017, 06:17:55 pm
Great pictures Martin,  :thankyousign:

I haven't ignored your excellent looking story line, just trying to find enough time to read it all in one go !!
The story isn't finished yet so you may want to wait till it's completed before you read it all.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 11, 2017, 07:03:18 pm
Just to balance things out a few pictures of the Trepol Bay part of the layout:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/230-110717185700.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53277)
First, a Class 22 approaches Trepol Bay from Wadebridge with the early evening milk empties.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/230-110717185924.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53278)
Later followed by a 64xx on a local passenger from Wadebridge to Truro.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/230-110717190202.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53280)
An 04 shunts the harbour whilst a Standard 4 leaves Trepol Bay bound towards Wadebridge. An M7 wailts in the station area.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 11, 2017, 07:14:55 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for another excellent set of photos.

I hope to continue the delayed story in a few days, probably, next week. However, if you can describe how Sergeant Tom Dickinson arranges to meet with Susan Tregowan somewhere safe and secluded and bring backs what he has learnt from her (which I will describe, soon: what is in Fiddler's giant locked trunk) to DI Rule, at "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove, that would be great.

You can also, if you wish, describe what the "Chelsea Girls" and their RN friends get up to in Port Perran.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 11, 2017, 10:32:40 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks for the latest  :greatpicturessign: always good to see
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 14, 2017, 07:53:26 pm
The station at Port Perran , even in the early 1960s , retains a typical Great Western feel. However the station sees a wide variety of motive power including various SR types working to and fro from Wadebridge to Truro.
This evening saw A Battle of Britain pacific at the head of a two coach local heading towards Truro. The Pacific will just fit onto the turntable at Truro thus relieving the crew of an uncomfortable tender first run back to SR territory :

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Thirty minutes later an N mogul passes through heading for Truro with an early evening parcels working. The 45xx will later head for Newquay with a two coach local:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/230-140717194841.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53342)
The ex GW atmosphere is restored some 20 minutes later as a commendably clean 14XX tank rumbles through headed for Trepol Bay harbour with two toad brake vans. The 14XX is held at the platform as the 45xx departs with its Newquay train:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/230-140717195154.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53343)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on July 14, 2017, 08:46:38 pm
Love it :heart2:
Thanks for the great pics, Martin
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 14, 2017, 10:40:20 pm
 :hellosign:  Top notch Martin, thanks for sharing
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 21, 2017, 08:19:55 pm
The coming days are expected to be very busy on the railways of North and West Cornwall.
The competition to discover the best samphire grass and the rivalry between the finest chefs of Cornwall and the North West of England has really caught the imagination of the public (and press) in Cornwall  and much further afield.
Such has been the interest that all available rooms within a 40 mile radius of Cant Cove are now fully booked.
A number of special trains are being run in conjunction with the event with perhaps the most unusual being this ensemble heading through Trepol Bay en route to Wadebridge and Cant Cove:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/230-210717200822.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53592)
The train locomotive is , most unusually, a black liveried 61xx which has just arrived in Cornwall after overhaul at Swindon. The train itself includes a French carriage having arrived at Falmouth conveying distinguished guests from Izaro and Brittany. The SR restaurant car has been included as the guests will be served a gourmet meal during the course of their journey through Cornwall. The forieign travellers are special guests of Lord and Lady Trevelver. the train includes a van of French beer and wine to be served diring the semi final and final of the chef competition.
Several other special trains will be run during the course of the next day or so.
The Royal Navy, having a special and long lasting association with Cornwall are sponsors of the competition and as such, Admiral Tregowan along with other RN dinitaries will be present at the finals. The Navy guests are being accommodated at the Cornish Arms at Port Perran having arrived by bus from Plymouth RN base

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The two buses are seen having just arrived at the Cornish Arms where the navy personnel were greeted by the Lord Lieutenant of Cornwall.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 22, 2017, 10:08:41 am
Thank you, Martin, for the update and the excellent photos. Photos. of this special train arriving at Cant Cove are expected, next week, along with other specials. The 61xx is one of the Large Prairies overhauled at Swindon Works as part of the purchases of the GWS for use in the Summer after the coming official end of BR WR steam in Cornwall.
Unfortunately, the cub reporter, (covering for the regular reporter who was on his annual holiday), got his notes a bit jumbled. The Continental Ferry Van, normally used to bring imported fruit to Cornwall, had been 'borrowed' to bring fresh Breton produce for Trevelver Castle and the best artisanal cidre, as well as top quality French wine. With all the guests in the area, local stocks were very low. Whilst the RN bus had indeed come up from Plymouth, its passengers had arrived in a reserved carriage on a regular BR SR express at Wadebridge, many getting on at Plymouth, whilst Admiral Tregowan had boarded at Waterloo, after a top secret meeting at the Ministry of Defence. Whilst the junior naval officers were, to their delight, accommodated at Trepol Bay, where the RN bus, (now based at the small RN depot at Penmayne), took them, from Wadebridge station, the Admiral was a guest at Trevelver Castle, the sponsorship of the chefs' competition providing perfect cover for his top secret meeting at the Castle. Most of the "Chelsea Girls" were also staying at the "Cornish Arms", Trepol Bay where they could meet their off-duty officer friends. However, Sylvia and Eli were unable to join them as they were needed to help Sylvia's mother, Lady Penelope, look after the VIPs from Brittany and Izaro whilst ensuring they did not see or hear anything of the top secret discussions taking place in a secluded part of the ancient building or that any of the attractive female guests bumped into the randy archaeologist. DCI Snapper had also been briefed about the secret meetings at the Castle but was more concerned with working with the local DI (Rule) to bring the villians to justice knowing, now, that they seemed to be completely unaware of the sensational discovery at the archaeological 'dig'. Nevertheless, the two police detectives had still to fully understand just what Fiddler and the Cornish brothers were up to, despite the excellent work of Susan Tregowan, (no relation to the Admiral).
It was set to be a very hectic weekend.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on July 22, 2017, 12:12:49 pm
It's good to see the story back on track (excuse the pun) again.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 22, 2017, 02:17:27 pm
After a delicious lunch of Cornish home cooking, the RN bus and the hired motor coach took the RN officers and the "Chelsea Girls" to join Sylvia and Eli for the Beachcombers afternoon open air concert in the grounds of Trevelver Castle, from the "Cornish Arms", before attending the grand dinner in the evening.
The Admiral had attended the same prep. school as Lord Trevelver who had to remind himself not to call the naval officer by his schoolboy name of 'Stinky'!
Relations between Lord Trevelver and the Lord Lieutenant were very cool as the later thought his host a dangerous radical for his refusal to accept the traditional ways of a landed lord and working with anyone who could be helpful, including local union representatives. Lord Trevelver, in turn, could not understand why his guest could not see the need for innovative thinking to promote a successful Cornish economy and integrated transport network including both of the BR Regions. His wife's opinion of the Lord Lieutenant is best left unsaid! However, relations between the two men had always been bad as they had been both enemies at public school and rivals for the hand of Penelope.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 22, 2017, 07:37:45 pm
Lengthy goods trains are rare in North/West Cornwall with trains usually limited to 4 or 5 wagons on local duties. This evening's train however (though not long by main line standards) was unusual in that it is composed almost entirely of brewery vehicles headed towards Wadebridge (and on to Cant Cove) conveying ales for consumption by visitors to the popular chef competition.   The train is hauled by a the celebrity T9 in LSWR livery preserved and maintained by the Cornwall Locomotive Preservation Group :
https://youtu.be/vNHt5OiTrcI
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on July 23, 2017, 08:38:21 am
Lovely Photo's Martin, has taken me a while to catch up with all the the storylines, but has been a terrific read, well done to you & Chris for captivating us all with the intrigue and mystery that abounds :)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 23, 2017, 10:10:36 pm
Hello.  Many thanks for the continuing story Martin & (Chris) super video, thanks for sharing
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 24, 2017, 08:58:39 am
Many thanks for the excellent video, Martin. The three leading light blue vans are "Castle Estates" ones conveying a variety of fresh local produce for the Trevelver Castle kitchens.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 24, 2017, 07:30:25 pm
Many thanks for the excellent video, Martin. The three leading light blue vans are "Castle Estates" ones conveying a variety of fredh local produce for the Trevelver Castle kitchens.
Ah...I get muddled between the light and dark blue of Castle Estates and Brewery.
Dark blue for the brewery!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 24, 2017, 08:01:45 pm
I had intended to paint some wagons today (a long overdue task) but it was such a lovely day that we did a 5 mile beach walk instead. Oh well.
We also picked the first runner beans of the year which went down very well this evening.
Anyway, to make up for not painting the wagons, I ran a few trains this evening and photographed this (posed) scene at an unusually busy Perran Sands Halt.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/230-240717195436.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53711)
We have a D65xx diesel taking the Port Perran avoiding line with a short train of brewery wagons (from various breweries) through to Truro yard. Waiting to join the avoiding line is a pannier with a single van containing best quality bagged china clay from the dries on the short branch line to the North of Perran Sands.
Meanwhile a prarie waits for access to the main branchline towards Newquay (via Trepol Bay) with a two coach local from Port Perran.
The Siphon and van standing in the loop will form a later parcels working to Wadebridge.
It seems that the holiday season has started judging by the caravan negotiating the narrow lanes. Mrs Trevanyon (bottom right) has just passed through the tunnelled pathway from Perran Sands Halt but has been distracted by something of interest in the bush.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on July 24, 2017, 09:11:47 pm
Hello

What a splendid photograph!

I'm new here and am working through this thread.  Your layout/s are inspirational.  Excellent modelling!  Congratulations on this achievement.

I look forward to seeing more.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2017, 07:19:09 am
No problem, Martin. It makes more sense that the vans would be loaded with fresh local produce bound for the Castle and hotel kitchens at Cant Cove.
Thanks for the layest excellent photo.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 25, 2017, 07:30:02 pm
Hello

What a splendid photograph!

I'm new here and am working through this thread.  Your layout/s are inspirational.  Excellent modelling!  Congratulations on this achievement.

I look forward to seeing more.

Best wishes.

John
Thank you John. There were lots of other photos of my layouts on the forum but most have disappeared due to the actions of the good people at Photobucket (a problem that has affected many on here).
Nevertheless, I do bore people with regular updates so keep looking.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 26, 2017, 07:44:19 am
I do hope that Mrs Trevanyon was distracted by something innocent like blackberries. Hate to think there was a chef in there up to no good. :censored:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 26, 2017, 07:48:01 am
I do hope that Mrs Trevanyon was distracted by something innocent like blackberries. Hate to think there was a chef in there up to no good. :censored:

 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 26, 2017, 08:07:43 pm
The Bristol and Somerset Historic Railway Society hold an annual railtour including a gourmet meal on the last Wednesday of July each year.
In 1962 it was a circular tour from Bristol to Truro via the LSWR route via Wadebridge and Trepol Bay and back to Bristol via the ex GW main line.
The group try to incorporate interesting vehicles within the formation and this year it is a Gresley Buffet (second carriage).
The train involved several interesting locomotives and is seen here passing through Port Perran hauled by a green liveried Standard 5:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/230-260717200611.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53749)
And here is a close up of the maroon Gresley Buffet (thanks to Chris IP for this carriage):
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/230-260717200729.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53750)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 26, 2017, 08:40:16 pm
Thanks, Martin, for another pair of excellent photos. Good to see the Gresley Buffet coach in the special train. I guess the leading BG contains refreshment stocks for replenishing the Buffet car? BR, Chris.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on July 26, 2017, 08:45:55 pm
Thanks, Martin, for another pair of excellent photos. Good to see the Gresley Buffet coach in the special train. I guess the leading BG contains refreshment stocks for replenishing the Buffet car? BR, Chris.
Seconded!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on July 26, 2017, 09:20:18 pm
Lovely photographs thank you;  the rocks in front of the wall are excellent modelling.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 06, 2017, 07:48:14 pm
I've spent a bit of time on the layout today (in between watching the cricket on the tv and taking in a couple of local walks). After our evening meal (including French & runner beans, carrots, spinach and potatoes all from the allotment),  I thought I'd run a few trains hence a couple of very short videos of locos that I may well not have shown in action before.
First the local Class 04 on a short freight passing through Trepol Bay, heading towards Port Perran:
https://youtu.be/HyD7CxpdYR8
Shortly after we see a Q1 passing by heading  an engineer's train bound for Truro yard :
https://youtu.be/BEGOPD1N1Mg

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on August 06, 2017, 07:54:11 pm
 :thankyousign:

Good films of a lovely layout.

My kind of model railway!

 :superblayout:

More films and pictures please...

All best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: MinZaPint on August 07, 2017, 12:32:01 pm
Very nice videos of a layout that continues to inspire  :wonderfulmodelling:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on August 07, 2017, 03:40:45 pm
Nice to see your Q1 in 'mellow' mode, Martin.
Mine takes off like a scalded cat!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 07, 2017, 03:52:59 pm
Nice to see your Q1 in 'mellow' mode, Martin.
Mine takes off like a scalded cat!
It is quite light footed but I think ithelps to have a reasonable load behind the tender.
You should have seen it yesterday when It wouldn't move so I upped the power only to realise that it was operator error as I hadn't changed the point in it's favour. I inadvertantly left it on full power as I changed the point. Whoosh!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on August 07, 2017, 03:59:29 pm
I have no issue with haulage but just cannot get mine to run consistently slower than this..........

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ardfgq0125zkjy/Southern%20Region%20steam%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ardfgq0125zkjy/Southern%20Region%20steam%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 07, 2017, 04:41:39 pm
Yes that's certainly impressive haulage.
I can offer no solution to the speed I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 07, 2017, 10:26:32 pm
 :hellosign: Great videos Martin, thanks for sharing
   regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 08, 2017, 07:24:48 pm
So..........after several weeks of deliberation (shall I/snan't I )I have decided to retire completely at the end of October but I shall be running my business down between now and then.
I have a pretty good pension from a previous incarnation which will easily see us through until the state pension clicks in a few years from now.
I had originally thought that I'd carry on working for one more year (until I'm 64) but increased costs and statutory changes (with which I'm not really in agreement) have swayed my mind.  I've decided that as I can afford to retire earlier then I will.
It does mean that I won't have quite so much to spend on N gauge things for a year or two but then I already have nearly everything I need so guess that won't be a problem.
And as I have lots of other interests, I won't be bored.
Indeed, I think I've made the right decision.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 08, 2017, 07:42:03 pm
Great stuff Martin, good decision (and the right age too, when I finally retired in March I was nearly 63). As you say there is bit of a wait (2020 for you too I guess?) for the state pension to kick in. It's taken me the best part of 6 months to get used to not working after 45 years but well worth the effort  :)

Enjoy!! Hope that you have a long and happy one!!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on August 08, 2017, 08:07:05 pm
Sounds a great idea to me.

Everyone I know who has retired wonders how they ever found the time to go to work.

I'm meant to work part-time only now, but I keep getting distracted from model railways and gardening to attend to business matters.

From what you have written, I'm sure you have made the correct decision.

With all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on August 08, 2017, 08:33:41 pm
Everyone I know who has retired wonders how they ever found the time to go to work.
I was forced to retire at 65.  I didn't want to, but now I'm really glad I did.  Fortunately, I had previously retired at 60 because the company wanted to get everyone off the final salary pension scheme.  So I drew my first pension and reinvested it in a top-up scheme.  Believe me, I have a very full day every day.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: lil chris on August 08, 2017, 08:53:37 pm
Like the videos, especially the Q1, and good luck with retiring, personally I love it the wife said I would be bored but I am not. Like you I have  more than one hobby so I can usually find something to do,I find it to believe I have been retired 4 years.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on August 08, 2017, 09:06:45 pm
A good decision.  I retired at 64, 7 years ago. I don't have a big pension nor savings but I enjoy every day and never bored.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 09, 2017, 10:40:59 pm
 :hellosign: Good on you Martin, I doubt you will regret this decision. I envy you as I have seven more years till i`m 66 & can kiss this interfering work lark goodbye
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 11, 2017, 07:07:50 pm
A new trader has recently set up stall in Truro Pannier Market selling, largely, second hand model railway items (including a fair bit of N Gauge).
I like to support local small businesses so picked up this siphon van for £7.50p.
Someone has even added a very nice tail lamp.
It looks good passing through Trepol Bay I think even if those sausages have travelled a long way !
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-110817190703.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54179)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on August 11, 2017, 07:28:07 pm
What a super picture... lovely lighting.  More  :photospleasesign:.

Good to see the weekend's breakfast delivery is on time.

Agreed about the local businesses.  I buy items at Harburn Hobbies that are a tad cheaper on-line from 'well-known Northern retailers'* for exactly this reason.  And these Northern retailers offer a good service, no doubt about that.

*Southern to pedantic old me, though.

All best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 13, 2017, 12:16:03 pm
Thank you, Martin, for a another excellent photo. Always good to support local businesses, I agree.

Although unprototypical (Palethorpes having WR 6-wheeled vans -- my late father remembered seeing the 6-wheeled vans attached to WR passenger trains -- they were classified as Express Goods stock in LMS/GWR and BR days and were often seen leading or trailing passenger services or made up in short parcels trains. Two were built by the GWR with four built by the LMS. All six survived into BR service.) I agree that it is a very nice model and looks well at home. Such a van could definitely reach North Cornwall in around 24 hours from the factory in Tipton (West Midlands), the siding at the factory being accessed from Dudley Port station. The vans were subject to circuit working, i.e. as one van was out-bound, its companion would be in-bound, so the two vans on a 'circuit' would presumably pass each other sometime during the day. So, an excellent excuse to buy another at such a good price! 8-)

As well as 4- and 6-wheeled vans, the LMSR also had two designs of 50-foot bogie vans built for "Palethorpes" sausages traffic; one having a corridor and appropriate connections. So, in our 'Alternative Cornwall', why shouldn't the (G)WR have two, too?

I'm not sure if I still have one of these Lima "Palethorpes" Siphon Gs. I did sell one but can't remember if I later bought another! If I did, it can also appear at Cant Cove, especially in the colder months when prime sausages are particularly appreciated!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 14, 2017, 07:57:20 pm
Couln't resist this photo.
Although never my favourite class of locomotive on the real railway, I have to admit that this Standard 5 is a wonderful model.
Seen here entering Trepol Bay somewhat unusually at the head of a china clay train :

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-140817195714.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54259)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 14, 2017, 08:06:44 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent photo. I've always liked the BR Standard 5MTs and they look particularly fine in WR Lined Green. It's probably on a crew-training run before a passenger special train at the weekend?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on August 14, 2017, 08:38:20 pm
Thank you for a lovely photograph; taken in the late afternoon/early evening light of high summer in Cornwall?

Good engines, the 'Standard Fives'; you have reminded me of my late father-in-law, who worked on them.

He was an Engineman and ex-RAF - great combination.

Thank you.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on August 14, 2017, 09:05:03 pm
Couldn't resist admiring the photo! It is indeed a lovely loco (sighs of jealousy).
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 14, 2017, 09:08:18 pm
Couldn't resist admiring the photo! It is indeed a lovely loco (sighs of jealousy).

You must invest in one!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 14, 2017, 09:15:56 pm
There were being sold off relatively cheaply compared with the original price.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on August 14, 2017, 09:31:30 pm
Unfortunately funds at the moment do not permit the purchase of more locos. They all remain on my wish list and hopefully will be still available sometime in the future.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 14, 2017, 09:34:23 pm
Unfortunately funds at the moment do not permit the purchase of more locos. They all remain on my wish list and hopefully will be still available sometime in the future.

I do understand, Brian.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 15, 2017, 07:26:55 am
Excellent scene Martin,  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 16, 2017, 08:16:57 pm
The Foundry of Messrs Herman and Johns (Port Perran) is situated in a rather rural setting to the East of the town. The buildings have become somewhat run down in latter years but the firm still does a good amount of business.
( Note that my attempts at producing a typical " sagging" roof didn't quite work but the camera does accentuate it rather. It looks better to the naked eye).
The yard sees infrequent rail traffic but today the local 08 visited to retrieve two loaded wagons.  The 08 has deposited it's brakevan in the nearest siding before collecting the wagons which it will later reverse onto the brakevan again before departure.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-160817201559.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54296)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-160817201650.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54297)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 16, 2017, 08:32:28 pm
Thank you, Martin, for two more excellent photos. Apart from the twin-bolster wagon with a load of pipes, the other two wagons look like "Ferry Tube" ones. Messrs Herman and Johns (Port Perran) must be importing or exporting?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 16, 2017, 08:59:22 pm
Thank you, Martin, for two more excellent photos. Apart from the twin-bolster wagon with a load of pipes, the other two wagons look like "Ferry Tube" ones. Messrs Herman and Johns (Port Perran) must be importing or exporting?
The pipes have been fabricated in house and will form part of a new sewage outlet system at Boscastle in North Cornwall.
Herman and Johns have won a contract to supply some 200 similar pipes over the next 3 months.
The pipes will travel to Port Isaac Road by rail from where they will be transported oneards by road - a special temporary unloading siding having been constructed just East of Port Isaac Road station.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on August 16, 2017, 10:02:03 pm
A nice pair of photos. The overhead crane has given me an idea. Very simple design. I've got some HO truss bridges from an old project which would make the supports and a short length of H section girder. Thanks for the inspiration.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 17, 2017, 07:40:42 pm
My mistake, Martin, they must be standard "Tube" wagons (vacuum-braked, brown) and non-vacuum-braked (grey). They are some of my favourite models.

Herman and Johns are to be congratulated on winning the pipe-supply contract.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 18, 2017, 11:58:07 am
 :hellosign: Really nice photos Martin, thanks for sharing
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 18, 2017, 07:14:54 pm
A lovely late evening in North West Cornwall and a very busy time in and around Trepol Bay harbour (and not a locomotive in sight).

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-180817191224.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54346)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-180817191254.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54347)

No doubt the various workers are looking forward to a refreshing pint in the Station Hotel later this evening.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 18, 2017, 07:19:30 pm
A particularly fine pair of photos., Martin. Many thanks.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: austinbob on August 18, 2017, 07:36:25 pm
I've just blown those photos up (no not with explosives..) and the detail is amazing. Drop the magnification down a a bit and its like you were there. Amazing stuff :).
 :)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on August 18, 2017, 07:57:52 pm
Excellent photographs, Martin.

I'm sure I can smell that distinctive 'low tide aroma' from the second photograph - it is just so realistic.

And, as for the two chaps with the plank (Mr Sykes and Mr Cooper?), in the first photograph; will they get where they are going without a series of mishaps?

Thank you very much.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 18, 2017, 08:05:35 pm
I think it is the Czecho(-Slovak) Pat and Mat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqY6T49SBD0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqY6T49SBD0)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 18, 2017, 08:06:44 pm
Excellent photographs, Martin.

I'm sure I can smell that distinctive 'low tide aroma' from the second photograph - it is just so realistic.

And, as for the two chaps with the plank (Mr Sykes and Mr Cooper?), in the first photograph; will they get where they are going without a series of mishaps?

Thank you very much.

Best wishes.

John
It's Jimmy Edwards driving the tractor as well.
Thanks for the kind comments.
I'm trying to take a series of close ups of various scenes on Trepol Bay and Pirt Perran. I need the sunlight shining through the window though.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 18, 2017, 08:08:39 pm
I think it is the Czecho(-Slovak) Pat and Mat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqY6T49SBD0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqY6T49SBD0)
So........now we know what you watch on TV Chris. :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on August 18, 2017, 08:30:31 pm
Wonderful pics of a busy, thriving goods yard :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on August 18, 2017, 08:34:26 pm
I think it is the Czecho(-Slovak) Pat and Mat:
I think there are two bad apples in the barrel (or should I say box).
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 19, 2017, 07:40:53 am
Another pair of fantastic photos Martin. Great detail and realism  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 19, 2017, 05:45:05 pm
This morning I enjoyed a very good video tour of the two interlinked layouts, Martin.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Webbo on August 20, 2017, 08:19:35 am
Very nice, Martin

The wharf scene for me is particularly evocative. The algae you have growing there, the condition of the pilings, and the rusty chain look excellent. Is the mineral wagon full of gravel?

Webbo
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 20, 2017, 08:31:59 am
Very nice, Martin

The wharf scene for me is particularly evocative. The algae you have growing there, the condition of the pilings, and the rusty chain look excellent. Is the mineral wagon full of gravel?

Webbo
Thank you.
Yes, the mineral wagon contains a mock gravel load.
I know where I bought the loads (a three pack) but I can't remember who produced them.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on August 20, 2017, 08:32:58 am
Morning Webbo (and Martin),

Just had another look at the wharf scene and it is frighteningly excellent. I'll have to go to modelling classes before I start the Brittany layout.

There's always that line between Wow, that's fantastic I'm going to try and do that  :claphappy: and I could never do that  :(. Must keep the faith.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 20, 2017, 05:47:25 pm
Morning Webbo (and Martin),

Just had another look at the wharf scene and it is frighteningly excellent. I'll have to go to modelling classes before I start the Brittany layout.

There's always that line between Wow, that's fantastic I'm going to try and do that  :claphappy: and I could never do that  :(. Must keep the faith.

Cheers weave  :beers:

It is indeed superb, Chris (Weave). Martin has described how he added the sea weed on the stone sides. My (very small) contribution was to paint and send the trawlermen. 8-)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 20, 2017, 07:59:14 pm
I'm planning to add a detailed station and yard area to a corner of my fiddle yard.
As my 9 year old grandson is staying with us and it's been raining all day, we popped to Kernow Model Centre this morning and picked up a Metcalfe station kit.
I quite like the Metcalfe kits so I thought I'd let Murray do the bulk of it under supervision. It's not a perfect job but he's done remarkably well. Not quite finished but probably 70 per cent done.
Here is a picture of concentration this afternoon

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-200817195816.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54372)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 20, 2017, 08:05:30 pm
Looking forward to seeing the finished building, Martin.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: trkilliman on August 20, 2017, 08:36:49 pm
I'm planning to add a detailed station and yard area to a corner of my fiddle yard.
As my 9 year old grandson is staying with us and it's been raining all day, we popped to Kernow Model Centre this morning and picked up a Metcalfe station kit.
I quite like the Metcalfe kits so I thought I'd let Murray do the bulk of it under supervision. It's not a perfect job but he's done remarkably well. Not quite finished but probably 70 per cent done.
Here is a picture of concentration this afternoon


And this is the age where skills can be learnt that will last a lifetime, and can be built upon if desired. Like many in their mid 60s I was making airfix planes at your grandson's age. Learning how to brush paint and fix the transfers as they were then known.

Copying Airfix houses out of cornflake packets got me used to measuring and getting things strain/in-line.  Well done getting him the Metcalfe kit Martin, a good shout on this rainy day we have had in W.Cornwall.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-200817195816.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54372[/url])

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on August 20, 2017, 09:24:50 pm
Nice not to see a mobile phone! It looks as if he's making a good job of it. Looking forward to seeing the finished result.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: johnlambert on August 21, 2017, 07:49:38 pm
Great pictures, as always.  Looks like there's plenty going on in Cornwall.

I'm not a fan of the real British Railways 5MT loco either, but I agree that the Graham Farish model is one of the best there is.  One day I'll cave in and buy a second one.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: mattycoops43 on August 21, 2017, 07:57:13 pm
Yes, have to echo, it is great to see a 'yoof' doing something constructive. Model railways are what is missing from so many young peoples lives these days!

 :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 21, 2017, 08:49:33 pm
So......nearly finished. Just the chimney pots to do plus need to use the watercolour pencils to finish off hiding the white bits (plus a bit of weathering).
Murray has done most of it under guidance and whilst it's not perfect it is, I think, an excellent job.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-210817204801.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54394)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-210817204838.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54395)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-210817204915.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54396)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 21, 2017, 08:57:57 pm
Excellent work, indeed. Many congratulations to Murray and you plus great photos.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on August 21, 2017, 09:19:34 pm
Excellent work, indeed. Many congratulations to Murray and you plus great photos.
Seconded!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: gc4946 on August 21, 2017, 09:22:24 pm
It's OK to me
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on August 21, 2017, 09:24:04 pm
Great work. You've got competition!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on August 21, 2017, 09:28:08 pm
Wish I could make one as good as that!

All the very best to the builder.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on August 21, 2017, 09:30:02 pm
Great stuff. Good on that little man. If he can build Minitrix card building kits, which seem to be impossible, and upload pics on my computer he could earn a fortune here.

Cheers weave (lemonades  :beers:)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: trkilliman on August 21, 2017, 10:12:42 pm
That's a fantastic achievement young Murray.  Grandfather P.P you may well have sown the seeds of a future modeller.

I think with most if you get the bug early on, it's tends to stay with you. There can be spells of little or no activity, but something will often kick start it again!

Murray's next project will be...?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 21, 2017, 10:46:55 pm
Hello, Excellent work there Murray &  :greatpicturessign: Martin
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 22, 2017, 07:28:40 am
Great work! Would Murray be interested in a short break to the New Forest some time in the future???  :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 22, 2017, 07:30:45 am
That's a fantastic achievement young Murray.  Grandfather P.P you may well have sown the seeds of a future modeller.

I think with most if you get the bug early on, it's tends to stay with you. There can be spells of little or no activity, but something will often kick start it again!

Murray's next project will be...?
Ha. Catching a carp. We're off fishing today.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: trkilliman on August 22, 2017, 07:59:54 am
Staying on the right line then...
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 22, 2017, 08:09:53 am
Staying on the right line then...
:laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Bealman on August 22, 2017, 08:17:08 am
Well done young Murray! As a retired schoolteacher, I like the last picture. The look of pride and achievement on his face is priceless.

Triple  :thumbsup: from Australia!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on August 22, 2017, 09:01:18 am
That's a fantastic achievement young Murray.  Grandfather P.P you may well have sown the seeds of a future modeller.

I think with most if you get the bug early on, it's tends to stay with you. There can be spells of little or no activity, but something will often kick start it again!

Murray's next project will be...?
Ha. Catching a carp. We're off fishing today.


Top Granddad. Hope the weather's OK, supposed to brighten up down your way later (if that's a good thing, I know nothing about fishing). Have fun.

Cheers weave.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: BoxTunnel on August 22, 2017, 10:28:53 am
I see a future Dragon in the Den...

"How did you make your first million Murray?"

"Well, it all started when I made a model station for my Grandad and he gave me a sherbert dib-dab..."

Graham, more of a gheko than a dragon.  Meep!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 23, 2017, 11:48:21 am
Whilst my grandson is here, we've managed a video with trains running. He operates the trains and sets the points whilst I take the video.
Here is our latest effort :
https://youtu.be/XLmTk14P_i0

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on August 23, 2017, 01:32:38 pm
Martin and Murray

That is an excellent video of an inspirational model railway.

The trains run superbly.

Congratulations to the driver/pointsman and the person i/c track-laying and track cleaning.

I like all the trains seen in the video and, of course, have a soft spot for that familiar 'T9' 4-4-0.

With many thanks and all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 23, 2017, 01:37:17 pm
Martin and Murray

That is an excellent video of an inspirational model railway.

The trains run superbly.

Congratulations to the driver/pointsman and the person i/c track-laying and track cleaning.

I like all the trains seen in the video and, of course, have a soft spot for that familiar 'T9' 4-4-0.

With many thanks and all best wishes.

John

Seconded, in every respect!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on August 23, 2017, 09:08:47 pm
Great video. I can see another layout under construction soon otherwise there could be a take over. :worried:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 24, 2017, 07:02:33 am
Great work chaps.  :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 26, 2017, 10:49:40 pm
Whilst my grandson is here, we've managed a video with trains running. He operates the trains and sets the points whilst I take the video.
Here is our latest effort :
https://youtu.be/XLmTk14P_i0


  :hellosign: All looking superb Martin, thanks for sharing
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 27, 2017, 08:02:05 pm
I've had a running session this evening with various locomotives and train formations. This however is a seldom photographed locomotive on my layout and a rarity on the Truro to Newquay line. It is nonetheless one of my favourite models.
Here we see D1038 Western Sovereign which was one of the Crewe built batch in green livery (which I thought suited the 52s so well) at the head of a short rake of chocolate and cream MK1s heading towards Truro having just passed Perran Sands Halt.
The train is the 06.02 departure from Newquay headed (via Truro) to Plymouth. A special bank holiday working conveying underprivileged children home after a day on Fistral Beach at Newquay:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-270817195858.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54577)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 27, 2017, 08:42:09 pm
Thanks for another excellent photo., Martin. After Desert Sand and, perhaps, Golden Ochre, Green is my favourite colour, too, for "Westerns" and, of course, goes very well with BR WR Chocolate & Cream coaches. Although Maroon looked good, too, and (clean) BR Blue. My first ever DCC-fitted loco., an old Graham Farish "Western", D1023 "Western Fusilier" carries BR Maroon livery and looks very good. Alas, I cannot really justify running it to Cant Cove and, certainly not beyond to Penmayne. Eventually, though, I will have to add a BR Green "Western". 8-)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on August 27, 2017, 09:21:20 pm
I've had a running session this evening with various locomotives and train formations. This however is a seldom photographed locomotive on my layout and a rarity on the Truro to Newquay line. It is nonetheless one of my favourite models.
Here we see D1038 Western Sovereign which was one of the Crewe built batch in green livery (which I thought suited the 52s so well) at the head of a short rake of chocolate and cream MK1s heading towards Truro having just passed Perran Sands Halt.

I only ever saw D1000s in blue, but, from seeing photographs, I agree that the green livery particularly suited them.  An excellent photograph; thank you very much.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 31, 2017, 08:37:25 pm
very much an evening of BR(W) running this evening with not an ex SR locomotive in sight.
First we have a commendably clean Grange entering Port Perran station with an evening parcels working from Newquay to Truro:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-310817202618.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54692)
At the same time, an ex GW 45xx pannier works a short train of empty cattle vans along the Port Perran station avoiding line passing the Headland Brewery premises. It seems to be a busy time in Barncoose Lane . Hopefully the bus doesn't spook the two horses:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-310817203009.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54693)
Meanwhile, the passengers waiting for the evening local at Perran Sands Halt are watching a 57xx pannier coming off the branch with a single van containing bagged top quality china clay:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-310817203234.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54694)
Finally, back at Port Perran, we see a 64xx pannier about to leave with the local for Truro (which has collected the passengers from Perran Sands). It's a fine evening clearly showing the sea beyond the gentle rolling hills and Wheal Jordan mine nestling amongst the trees in the distance. The DMU will form a later working to Wadebridge:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-310817203713.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54695)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 31, 2017, 08:47:26 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for another four excellent photos. The BR Crimson Siphon G looks very commendably clean.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on September 01, 2017, 09:10:01 am
Martin,

Thank you for the interesting photographs, taken in lovely light.  Your backscenes are certainly very attractive and 'frame' the layout perfectly.

The 'Grange' is a splendidly turned-out example of a well-proportioned locomotive.  Such a shame that her days are numbered unless some preservationists step in and save her...

With best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 01, 2017, 12:56:12 pm
The "Grange" can look forward to active preservation by the Great Western Society (Cornwall) following withdrawal by BR WR. Normally, as seen, it will be operating on the Port Perran-Newquay-Truro line but, occasionally, it reaches Cant Cove from Wadebridge (either via Bodmin Road or Port Perran) on a special passenger or parcels working. Unfortunately, the weight restriction on the Cant Cove bridge bars large locos. working on to Penmayne.

Here it is, at Cant Cove, on a passenger special from Truro, formed of Collett design BR Lined Maroon coaches, earlier this (1962) summer.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xx5yqet063t6ab4/2017-07-05%2014.29.25.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/xx5yqet063t6ab4/2017-07-05%2014.29.25.jpg?dl=0)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 01, 2017, 06:20:22 pm
Thanks for that picture Chris.
The Grange certainly looks very much at home in Cornwall.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on September 01, 2017, 06:49:06 pm
The "Grange" can look forward to active preservation by the Great Western Society (Cornwall) following withdrawal by BR WR. Normally, as seen, it will be operating on the Port Perran-Newquay-Truro line but, occasionally, it reaches Cant Cove from Wadebridge (either via Bodmin Road or Port Perran) on a special passenger or parcels working. Unfortunately, the weight restriction on the Cant Cove bridge bars large locos. working on to Penmayne.

Here it is, at Cant Cove, on a passenger special from Truro, formed of Collett design BR Lined Maroon coaches, earlier this (1962) summer.

[url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/xx5yqet063t6ab4/2017-07-05%2014.29.25.jpg?dl=0]https://www.dropbox.com/s/xx5yqet063t6ab4/2017-07-05%2014.29.25.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/xx5yqet063t6ab4/2017-07-05%2014.29.25.jpg?dl=0)[/url]

Thank you for this, Chris, and for the photograph.

It's encouraging to hear that the 'Grange' is earmarked for preservation so that future generations can see and hear such a good locomotive.  Well, hear until her boiler wears out as there won't be much chance that boilers this size will be able to be repaired in fifty years' time.

It's dreadful the way splendid locomotives are being scrapped this year.  A couple of years ago it was mostly old engines that were being withdrawn, but it is now getting serious.  For instance, I've heard that it is unlikely that any of the 'Lord Nelson' class will last to next year.  I understand that 'Lord Nelson', which was withdrawn a couple of weeks ago, is to preserved so that is, at least, some compensation.

With all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on September 01, 2017, 08:15:10 pm
And, of course, in 55 years' time, it will still be steaming away, on loan from NRM to Mid-Hants Railway.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on September 02, 2017, 07:21:07 am
As always, great photos Martin.  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2017, 09:32:16 am
With his excellent personal contacts with senior management at BR WR HQ and Swindon Works, Lord Trevelver was tipped off that Swindon Works had an extensive stock of newly constructed boilers which, because of the rush to achieve dieselisation, were to be scrapped (this actually happened) and stepped in to buy enough to ensure the continued use of the preserved locomotive fleet, in Cornwall, including this "Grange". Suitably protected, the boilers now lie in the extensive, rail-served cavern under Trevelver Castle, together with a comprehensive selection of spare parts.

A small fleet of sliding door SWB vans, of LNER design, has been purchased, overhauled and repainted by the CLPG at Port Perran (pictures awaited) and are used for the local transport of and storage of parts at the CLPG's sheds. Siphon Gs are used for transporting spare parts to and from Swindon and Eastleigh Works (which is still scheduled to overhauling steam locos. long after Swindon Works ceases this activity). Every loco. bought from BR is received in a fully overhauled state and have been repainted in a suitable livery. All of this is co-ordinated by the Association for Cornwall's Railways (ACR).
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on September 02, 2017, 01:54:30 pm
Chris

Fascinating!  With the Middleton and Bluebell railways now established, it looks like there is a real future for standard gauge steam trains in this country after they finish in service on British Railways.  Assuming the recent 'Standard' locomotives last for twenty-five years or so, by around 1980 these preserved engines will, presumably, be all we have in steam on the standard gauge.  I think it is unlikely that another railway will be bought from BR for preservation, but I have heard rumours that Mr Lionel is trying to persuade Lord Flamborough to open his private railway (the former GER branch line between Flaxfield and Arcady) to the public as a tourist attraction.

The future is not perhaps quite as gloomy as it could be...

With many thanks and best wishes to all those involved in keeping steam alive in the Royal Duchy.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2017, 02:32:54 pm
Apologies for hijacking Martin's thread. Ah! the former GER branch line between Flaxfield and Arcady, as featured in the excellent 1959 novel, "Love on a Branch Line" by John Hadfield. The eccentric Lord Flamborough who, having lost both legs in a train accident whilst working as a driver during the 1926 General Strike, now lives on a steam train on a nearby private railway -- the defunct branch line of the title -- and is a good friend of Lord and Lady Trevelver whilst Lord Flamborough's daughters, Chloe, the eldest, Belinda the flirtatious and uninhibited middle daughter, and the wildly gothic romantic youngest, Matilda, are also friends of the "Chelsea Girls".
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 02, 2017, 08:11:00 pm
It is reported that the first of the boilers from Swindon is due at the Port Perran branch of the CLPG tomorrow. The boiler is to be used as a replacement for either the Grange or Manor both of which have been earmarked for preservation in Cornwall.
 It remains to be seen which boiler (Grange or Manor) arrives this weekend. The Manor boiler being slightly smaller than that used on the Grange.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 03, 2017, 09:11:24 am
Meanwhile, down in the Castle cellars, the Doctor and Sir Mortimer Wheeler were also sitting drinking “Castle Spring” mineral water as, as many times before, they discussed the incredible finds secured behind them. However, neither of them could really focus on a topic which had already been exhaustively debated. Truth to tell the eminent archaeologist was not best pleased to find himself discussing matters with someone whose knowledge had proved to be far greater than what his own very considerable studies had given him. He was also annoyed by a Colonel in the Scots Guards, a certain Lethbridge-Stewart, who being born in Cornwall, was on friendly terms with Lord Trevelver, the Head Butler and Giles, but although unfailingly polite kept himself and his men well apart and silent as to their responsibilities, despite Sir Mortimer’s wartime rank as an army brigadier. To add to the archaeologist’s annoyance, whilst the Doctor seemed to know the Colonel, the Colonel showed no sign of having met the Doctor, before.

The Colonel was commanding a small group of very well-armed soldiers, sent by ‘the Government’ (the Colonel would not reveal who) to guard the contents of the ‘dig’ and who had arrived without any prior communication with Sir Mortimer. The soldiers had travelled in a sealed brake end carriage attached to the quarter past midnight overnight mail train from Waterloo to Penmayne, an event which had aroused much speculation among the local railway staff.

On arrival at Cant Cove station, at which the train had been especially stopped, the Colonel had wanted the carriage detached and taken up the Castle Branch to be unloaded but, when this was explained as being impossible as only shorter, lighter rolling stock was passed to use the line, had ordered the station cleared and a cordon of his soldiers established around it whilst a covered Royal Navy lorry, organised by RN Penmayne, was driven onto the platform and the contents of the guard’s compartment loaded onto it.

As they chatted in a half-hearted way, the Doctor was savouring the Castle Spring water. Whilst he well knew that the French always talked about the almost mystical significance of ‘terroir’ – the set of all environmental factors that affect a crop's phenotype and, hence, its taste – with his naturally heightened senses, the Time Lord found the unique blend of minerals and trace elements in spring water to be a constant source of far greater, personal delight. Sir Mortimer he had found to be the usual confusing mix of human characteristics: sometimes a light-hearted, amusing and learned companion, but at others dangerous when threatened with frustration; a meticulous implementer of field techniques, the well-known “Wheeler Method”, but (as he had warned Susan), also well-known for his conspicuous promiscuity, especially favouring young women, without regard for any resultant emotional suffering (as the “Chelsea Girls” had emphasised to their – seemingly – younger friend).

For his part, the famous archaeologist, known to many, but not to himself, as "Naughty Morty", was now pre-occupied with the publicity photos., taken by David Bailey, he had seen, where Sylvia had accidentally left them, of the stunning Catalan-Finnish teenage singer-songwriter, Enka Lou-Lou. They showed her as being unusually tall, slim but well-endowed, and with the naturally blonde hair and deep brown eyes of a true Catalan, inherited from her mother which, some said, was a legacy of Phoenician ancestry.

In his favourite photo. – to his lasting distress, Lady Trevelver had firmly but politely swiftly collected them up – Enka was perched on a metal-legged stool, her face half hidden behind a long fringe of blonde hair as she intently played a Spanish acoustic guitar. Her mini skirt revealed legs that seemed incredibly long and slim whilst her tight semi-transparent blouse left little to his fervid imagination. But to his immense frustration, Enka seemed to keep herself to her room in the Owl Tower, where only his granddaughter, Susan, and, he learnt, to a lesser extent, her good friends, Sylvia and Eli, were permitted access. As he walked around the Castle grounds, passing the Owl Tower, the archaeologist could often hear her powerful, almost husky, highly seductive, voice floating out of a high-up open window as she expertly accompanied herself on a variety of acoustic guitars. No wonder they call her the “Queen of Hearts” he sighed to himself.
You really need to publish a book about all this... Better still, how about a TV series or a blockbuster movie. Got to be a winner when you see the rubbish opposition on the TV. Bring it on...  :) :) :) :)

Please, go to my Cant Cove thread for the continuation of this story, Bob.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 03, 2017, 01:50:30 pm
As mentioned earlier, the Cornish Locomotive Preservation Group (CLPG) has reached agreement with Swindon works to purchase rwo spare boilers(one for the groups Grange and one for its Manor). The two spare boilers will enable the CLPG to extend the periods between heavy overhaul of it's fwo flagship ex WR 4-6-0s.
The first of the additional boilers (from withdrawn manor 7800) has been restored to as new condition at Swindon and despatched to Cornwall via Exeter and the ex LSWR route into North Cornwall. The train (headed by a Class 22) is seen passing Trepol Bay on its way to the CLPG workshop at Port Perran. The dark blue van is one of several making up a fleet of CLPG private owner wagons whilst the Siphon G is used to transport other useful ex Manor parts from Swindon :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-030917134805.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54887)
The photographer was lucky (a few minutes later) to capture a china clay train passing through Trepol Bay. The wagons and van clearly showing signs of having spent  a long working life serving the china clay industry:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/230-030917135017.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=54888)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 03, 2017, 05:09:16 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for another pair of excellent and interesting photos. The "Manor" boiler makes an unusual wagon load.

I have recently read that Swindon Works, at least in the diesel hydraulic era, also used converted horseboxes (presumably BR Standard ones) to transport engine parts, as well as Siphon Gs, although I've never seen any photos.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on September 03, 2017, 06:39:33 pm
Excellent pictures!  A fortunate photographer, indeed.

CPLG is clearly a very forward-looking and well resourced organisation.

Many thanks.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 03, 2017, 07:13:44 pm
It is certainly the intention of the CLPG to build up a truly representative collection of locomotives utilised in North and West Cornwall.
The expectation is that older types (eg SR T9 and 700 series and WR Dean Goods) should be used alongside existing steam classes in the early 1960s.
As steam ends, the CLPG is negotiating with BR(W) to keep steam alive in Cornwall well into the future. As such the organisation will be raising funds to purchase examples of various ex WR, SR and BR Standard types.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 03, 2017, 07:59:07 pm
Although the Association for Cornwall's Railways has a co-ordinating role and bulk buys consumables, such as best Somerset Steam Coal, and negotiates direct with BR WR and BR SR and their respective loco. works, to obtain the keenest prices, the various branches of the Cornish Locomotive Preservation Group (CLPG) and Great Western Society are entirely free to decide which locos. they (and their sponsors) want to preserve, which increases the variety of locos. to be seen in the various parts of Cornwall.

Political support for the continuation of steam within Cornwall and, in Summer, to and from Cornwall by scheduled (as opposed to special) services, is very effectively headed by Lord and Lady Trevelver dealing with BR WR (where steam is set to end, in Cornwall, in 1962) and BR SR (where it is not, as of 1962, planned to end until the late 1960s), respectively, supported by local notables and influential organisations. That is not to say that decisions as to what to purchase, and in what order, are not the subject of, often heated, debate within the various branches. (Which is good for alcohol sales but not for some members' heart condition!) For example, the CLPG in North Cornwall has a much greater liking for BR Standard designs than in West Cornwall.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 08, 2017, 08:08:52 pm
The panters at the CLPG workshop have been very busy lately undertaking contract wagon painting work for the Headland Brewery and Messrs Prisk & Jones (fruit and veg merchants).
We see two trains of the first batches of wagons heading towards Port Perran where final finishing touches will be carried out by staff at the Trepol Bay wagon works.
First we see a batch of vans in the dark green livery of Prisk and Jones:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/230-080917200440.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=55247)
Secondly a batch of wagons in the livery of the Headland brewery co. Including two of the brand new bulk grain hoppers:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/230-080917200613.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=55248)
Finally, yet another batch of wagons currently undergoing painting. Including a batch in the prussian blue livery of the CLPG itself :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/230-080917200754.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=55249)
Once all wagons are completed they will be transported to Cant Cove from where  they will be distributed further afield.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 08, 2017, 08:18:02 pm
I have a plan!
Currently trains can run from Trepol Bay to Port Perran and on to a dead end which will be a  station area.
The picture here (which is poor quality) shows the off scene line running behind the Port Perran layout. It currently includes a few storage sidings:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/230-080917201223.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=55250)
My plan is to make the track more central (and gently curving) and remove the storage sidings. I will then create a purely rural scenie around the track with hardly any buildings (perhaps a single derelict cornish tin/copper mine) for the trains to run through.
This new section will culminate in a station area at the end. Again a poor photo :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/230-080917201556.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=55251)
This station area will need a larger baseboard. I intend to utilise the Metcalfe station building kit which I made with my grandson a few weeks back. My idea is that the station becomes Truro but in a slightly different location to the actual station.
Any comments please?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on September 08, 2017, 08:47:07 pm
Martin

If I understand correctly, you are proposing replacing the present 'off stage' track and hidden storage areas by scenic model railway with the new 'Truro' station able to hold trains.

This sounds ideal to me.  I appreciate the value of 'fiddle' or 'staging' yards, but I often feel these are out of proportion to layout area.  I think that the potential for 'on-scene' storage is often underplayed.

Seeing the quality of the scenic development of the rest of your layout, I should welcome the opportunity for more.

With kind regards.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on September 08, 2017, 09:05:39 pm
Hi Martin,

Sounds great. Looking forward to more of your fabulous work.

I've got a spare sledge hammer and various bolsters for when you eventually expand through the wall!

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 08, 2017, 09:34:28 pm
Martin

If I understand correctly, you are proposing replacing the present 'off stage' track and hidden storage areas by scenic model railway with the new 'Truro' station able to hold trains.

This sounds ideal to me.  I appreciate the value of 'fiddle' or 'staging' yards, but I often feel these are out of proportion to layout area.  I think that the potential for 'on-scene' storage is often underplayed.

Seeing the quality of the scenic development of the rest of your layout, I should welcome the opportunity for more.
With kind regards.
John
You are correct John. That's my plan.
And yes, the "new" Truro station should be able to hold trains with a small goods yard alongside I think.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on September 08, 2017, 09:37:50 pm
A good idea. Another volunteer for hole making! :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 08, 2017, 09:39:07 pm
A good idea. Another volunteer for hole making! :D
Next door may not be quite so keen!
But then......I've not asked them.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on September 09, 2017, 07:06:22 am
Excellent plan Martin. Any opportunity for more scenic work should be fully exploited. Maybe you could spend some of your retirement fund expanding into next door!!  :)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 09, 2017, 07:14:07 am
Excellent work with all the PO goods stock, Martin. It will be well worth it when they are running on all the waiting layouts. Business is booming in Cornwall with both new SWB and LWB PO goods stock.
The plans for the new station sound as though that will keep you busy for a while. It will look very good, I'm sure. Will it be called Truro?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on September 09, 2017, 07:16:49 am
Sounds like a bold move. Will you manipulate the trains by shunting maneuvres or will you simply pick up the locos and put them down at the other end of the train?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on September 09, 2017, 12:57:46 pm
I'm sure the result will be to your usual high standard, Martin, and will, of course, warrant a cab's eye vid of the trip (nudge, nudge ;))
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 09, 2017, 01:42:26 pm
Sounds like a bold move. Will you manipulate the trains by shunting maneuvres or will you simply pick up the locos and put them down at the other end of the train?
Hi Laurence. It'll be a dead end but with the illusion of also having through roads. I'll probably incorporate change over/run round facilitles but in reality, as with Port Perran station (which also has a run round option) I will more than likely be lazy and pick a loco up and "plonk it " on t'other end of the train.
Chris, I need to think of a name but possibly Truro West?
Mick- a cab eye view in due course for sure and...as I know you like it (and so do I) a meandering, rather than straight, line.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on September 09, 2017, 01:57:59 pm

Mick- a cab eye view in due course for sure and...as I know you like it (and so do I) a meandering, rather than straight, line.

How come you've seen me attempt to draw? ;) :uneasy:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on September 09, 2017, 02:34:26 pm
I've built in the ability to run round for the branch, but I expect I will use the pick up and move method, at least to start with. The reason for the loops at each end of the mainline is to make operations as simple as possible 🙆.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 09, 2017, 07:51:55 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/230-090917194906.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=55341)
Picked up this little wagon this morning at Pandora's Box in Truro's Pannier Market for a fiver. If you are in Truro , this little stall is well worth a visit.
Used as a fertilizer for Cornish brocolli,lime is transported South to Cornwall. Seen here passing over the viaduct at Penwinnick Creek behind a Class 14.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 09, 2017, 10:35:48 pm
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign: Thanks for the pictures Martin & yes Truro West sounds a brilliant idea a big  :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 09, 2017, 10:40:48 pm
:hellosign:  :greatpicturessign: Thanks for the pictures Martin & yes Truro West sounds a brilliant idea a big  :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.

Seconded, Derek. The lime wagon looks very good. I have not done full search but I think the only Siphon G I don't have is  a Palethorpes one as I sold mine some time ago as being unprototypical but I will look out for one for 'through' running after seeing yours, Martin.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 11, 2017, 05:36:19 pm
Both layouts now stowed away as we have guests arriving.
I'm getting better at packing things away relatively tidily.
When I set everything up again, I'll be taking the opportunity to extend (slightly) the behind scenes baseboards so that I can add scenics plus a new station in due course.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on September 13, 2017, 06:37:14 pm
Great updates Martin, part of my way of easing the pain of being back at work is looking forward to catching up with all the wonderful layouts on the forum.  As others have said too, cracking photo's & I agree your grandson did a great job on the station building, hope he had the pleasure of catching a fish too!


This sounds ideal to me.  I appreciate the value of 'fiddle' or 'staging' yards, but I often feel these are out of proportion to layout area.  I think that the potential for 'on-scene' storage is often underplayed.


My layout will (and already does) rely heavily on "on-scene storage" owing to my predilection for acquiring lots of rolling stock!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 15, 2017, 03:52:33 pm
Looking forward to the updates, Martin, when you return.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 17, 2017, 10:51:50 am
So.....after saying I wasn't going to do ant more exnibitions, Roger from Hayle MRC has persuaded me to show at their one day Christmas aevent in December.
So I'm taking Trepol Bay. Mrs PP is taking Descanso Farm also.
As it's a  hristmas show I'll be able to play my "Guess which way the train will come?" For the kids.
A tank engine with a flat truck holding a chocolate (if they guess correctly). It was very popular last time I attended the Christmas Show.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 17, 2017, 10:57:06 am
That's excellent news, Martin, despite the hard work that this will involve. In my next parcel (delayed by work and 'flu), I will be sending some additions for Trepol Bay and you can have a competition to find them and, in one case, perhaps, ask them what they (the model) is doing?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on September 17, 2017, 12:32:52 pm
Hi Martin,

Sounds great. I'd love to come and see your layout at a show but 'ampshire bit too far away. Still I've got some more lottery draws before December so a rail trip would be nice.

 I used to go out with a girl from Feock (real place, not being rude, for non Cornish folk) but looking at the map I think Hayle is far enough away that they're wouldn't be a 'scene'  :worried:.

If I did come I like coffee creams  :D

Way in advance but pics please of the Bay and the Farm at the show.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 17, 2017, 02:21:25 pm
Hi Martin,

Sounds great. I'd love to come and see your layout at a show but 'ampshire bit too far away. Still I've got some more lottery draws before December so a rail trip would be nice.

 I used to go out with a girl from Feock (real place, not being rude, for non Cornish folk) but looking at the map I think Hayle is far enough away that they're wouldn't be a 'scene'  :worried:.

If I did come I like coffee creams  :D

Way in advance but pics please of the Bay and the Farm at the show.

Cheers weave  :beers:
So you are the one person that likes coffee creams. They get left in the tin here. I'll have to pack them up and send them on to 'ampshire.
Oh....I don't think people in Feock make it up to 'Ayle.
But.....you are most welcome if you ever make it down this way.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 17, 2017, 02:22:38 pm
Hi Chris.
I look forward to your parcel it sounds interesting.
I already get people counting bicycles.
Plus I get them searching for the giant tortoise!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on September 17, 2017, 04:59:35 pm
Hi Martin,

Just to say, think you've responded to Chris in Prague's quote on the last post, not mine. I seem to remember a giant tortoise in my past but that's another story  :D

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS. Thanks for the invite and coffee creams!

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 17, 2017, 05:41:49 pm
Thanks Weave,
My mistake.
Yes, I should have quoted Chris. I'll attempt to correct my mistake.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: bandwagon on September 26, 2017, 06:42:41 am
Just read all of this fantastic thread and wow what great modelling and photos and of course your stories with @Chris in Prague (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895) and the one with the chefs is brilliant, what happened by the way. I saw a member also involved at the beginning of the story, Steamie+ I think it was who said something about Hest Bank, lovely part of the country, has is Cornwall.

Your Grandson did a wonderful job on the Metcalfe Kit by the way, great idea to get youngsters into the hobby.

Looking forward to more from you.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 26, 2017, 04:44:52 pm
Just read all of this fantastic thread and wow what great modelling and photos and of course your stories with @Chris in Prague ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895[/url]) and the one with the chefs is brilliant, what happened by the way. I saw a member also involved at the beginning of the story, Steamie+ I think it was who said something about Hest Bank, lovely part of the country, has is Cornwall.

Your Grandson did a wonderful job on the Metcalfe Kit by the way, great idea to get youngsters into the hobby.

Looking forward to more from you.


Thanks Bandwagon for the kind comments.
The storyline shifts between my thread and Chris's Cant Cove thread .Currently the chef story is still being continued by Chris,
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 26, 2017, 07:14:43 pm
The weather here has been beautiful for two days so not much work done on re-assembling the layouts after our guests have departed.
We took in a lovely walk and lunch around Trelissick Gardens and along the coast at Carrick Roads yesterday and put in a full day tidying the allotment today.
However, this evening I decided to tackle repairing the street,platform and building lights on Port Perran. Continually moving the layout when guests stay meant that several wires had come loose. I'm no electrician and so nothing is colour coded (all wires are red!)  which made it difficult to re-connect everythingiin the right place.
However with a bit of patience and a huge slice of luck everything now works and lights up again. I just need to tidy up the wiring with cable ties etc tomorrow to try to ensure that nothing comes loose again. Once that's done I can start to set up the two layouts again and run some trains.
Hats off to those of you who enjoy wiring. For me it's nothing more than a necessary evil but I guess the end results are worth it.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on September 26, 2017, 08:16:24 pm
It's a good idea to use the standard colour code
Black = 0
Brown = 1
Red =2
Orange = 3
Yellow =4
Green = 5
Blue = 6
Violet = 7
Grey = 8
White = 9
Obviously, you can use red and black or brown and blue for positive and negative where appropriate.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 26, 2017, 09:02:32 pm
It's a good idea to use the standard colour code
Black = 0
Brown = 1
Red =2
Orange = 3
Yellow =4
Green = 5
Blue = 6
Violet = 7
Grey = 8
White = 9
Obviously, you can use red and black or brown and blue for positive and negative where appropriate.

Thanks, Laurence. Alas, neither my landlord (who should know as he's an electrical engineer) nor myself (no surprise) knew that and yet I had bought lots of differently coloured wires from Germany which have been used under the layout!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on September 27, 2017, 08:28:52 am
For multicore cables you could use www.telephonecentral.com/custom.aspx?id=28 (http://www.telephonecentral.com/custom.aspx?id=28)  :)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 27, 2017, 08:36:00 am
Just read all of this fantastic thread and wow what great modelling and photos and of course your stories with @Chris in Prague ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895[/url]) and the one with the chefs is brilliant, what happened by the way. I saw a member also involved at the beginning of the story, Steamie+ I think it was who said something about Hest Bank, lovely part of the country, has is Cornwall.

Your Grandson did a wonderful job on the Metcalfe Kit by the way, great idea to get youngsters into the hobby.

Looking forward to more from you.


Thanks Bandwagon for the kind comments.
The storyline shifts between my thread and Chris's Cant Cove thread. Currently the chef story is still being continued by Chris,


Thank you Bandwagon, too. As Martin has written, there is a recent update on my Cant Cove thread and a new episode should go up this week. (There are a few more episodes to go before the conclusion of a lot of inter-connected threads from the summer.) Yes, Steamie+ provided a valuable contribution about the two chef friends from the Northwest. As have Martin and Chris (Weave) amongst several others.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 27, 2017, 07:43:56 pm
It's a good idea to use the standard colour code
Black = 0
Brown = 1
Red =2
Orange = 3
Yellow =4
Green = 5
Blue = 6
Violet = 7
Grey = 8
White = 9
Obviously, you can use red and black or brown and blue for positive and negative where appropriate.

Thanks, Laurence. Alas, neither my landlord (who should know as he's an electrical engineer) nor myself (no surprise) knew that and yet I had bought lots of differently coloured wires from Germany which have been used under the layout!
Thanks for that Laurence but I'm afraid it's miles over my head! Wiring for me is DC and incredibly simple.
Anyway, I do now have the wiring both working and (for me) reasonably tidy.
As it's been raining here all day my intention was to get both layouts fully connected up and running.
However, the cricket on TV got in the way so I only got a bit of railway work done. I'm working most of tomorrow so maybe Friday (trouble is.....the cricket will be back on).
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on September 27, 2017, 08:15:58 pm
I have never known a standard for wiring colours but am also a complete numpty when it comes to electrickery (it's a black art, I tell you!) Being a DC dinosaur, track feeds/returns are red and black. Everything else is all different colours which, note to self, I must write down  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 27, 2017, 08:23:06 pm
I have never known a standard for wiring colours but am also a complete numpty when it comes to electrickery (it's a black art, I tell you!) Being a DC dinosaur, track feeds/returns are red and black. Everything else is all different colours which, note to self, I must write down  :hmmm:
I agree Mick. My wiring is like Model T Fords where one could have any colour as long as it was black. I chose red for my wiring ( and I mean ALL wires) because I aquired a job lot free.  This leads to much confusion (and gnashing of teeth) when two different wires come adrift.
All good fun though.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on September 27, 2017, 08:33:59 pm
If I've got a lot of wires the same colour I wrap a bit of insulating tape around each end to identify it. Insulating tape comes in many colours but if you run out of colours then use a second colour as well.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on September 27, 2017, 09:17:34 pm
Having talked about colour codes, etc., I have adopted the following for the connections from the auxiliary decoders to my points.  Even in DC, the same approach could be used.  Feel free to use whatever colours you would like.  But , what I have done is to adopt the same wiring colours for each of the 46 points on the layout.  Brown = turnout, blue = straight on and green = common return.  What I did then was to twist each set of three wires together and attach a masking tape label with the number of the point.  That enabled me to connect all the wires up to the decoders (if you are using DC, read switches or CDUs instead of decoders) and then connect the other ends to the point motors.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 30, 2017, 02:17:26 pm
Port Perran and Trepol Bay are both now back in action after our guests left last weekend. Tracks tested and all appears to work ok.
I've taken the opportunity to rationalise things a bit to make it easier to dismantle and re-assemble the layouts when the room has to revert to a bedroom.
Just need to tidy up now - a job for tomorrow I think. Also I'll be decluttering the room to make it easier to work in. A long overdue job.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 30, 2017, 02:38:15 pm
That's excellent news, Martin.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on September 30, 2017, 03:18:18 pm
Pleased to hear Laurence's gremlins stayed at home, Martin ;D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on September 30, 2017, 03:44:31 pm
Port Perran and Trepol Bay are both now back in action after our guests left last weekend. Tracks tested and all appears to work ok.
I've taken the opportunity to rationalise things a bit to make it easier to dismantle and re-assemble the layouts when the room has to revert to a bedroom.
Just need to tidy up now - a job for tomorrow I think. Also I'll be decluttering the room to make it easier to work in. A long overdue job.

Excellent; hopefully more lovely photographs soon.

Best of luck with the decluttering.  My efforts at this inevitably result in even more clutter!

All the very best.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on September 30, 2017, 07:35:24 pm
Trains are running again and It seems to have been a pleasant afternoon at Port Perran :

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-300917192829.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56263)
The Ivatt tank waits with an early afternoon departure for Wadebridge  whilst the Hymek will later add its siphon and van to a parcels train bound for Truro.
Early evening at Trepol Bay with the lights just starting to take effect,  in the station an N Mogul awaits departure with a train for Truro :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-300917193200.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56264)
And....much later in the evening , the harbour lights create an atmospheric effect :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-300917193418.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56265)
Some tidying up to do tomorrow but at least trains are running again.
I need to sort the lights in order to create a more even effect - a job for next week.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on September 30, 2017, 07:45:51 pm
Lovely photographs, Martin; thank you very much.

As they say hereabouts, "The nights are fair drawing in!"

All the very best.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on September 30, 2017, 08:03:29 pm
Hi Martin,

Thank you. I love your layout so much. Just the first pic put a smile on my face and then the rest fantastic again.

STOP having guests! (unless it's me, oh and my wife but she's there to apologise for my behaviour  :D)

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 01, 2017, 09:49:26 am
Lovely photographs, Martin; thank you very much.

As they say hereabouts, "The nights are fair drawing in!"

All the very best.

John

Seconded! Well worth waiting for.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 01, 2017, 04:04:58 pm
Young Alan Trago has been given a box brownie camera for his birthday today. As he is also a railway enthusiast, he has popped down to his favourite spotting location between Port Perran and Perran Sands Halt to take a few snaps of trains. He knows that the 1-2.30 timeslot will give him a varied selection of locomotive types and he was not disappointed :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-011017155521.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56287)
First off he captures the 1.05 Port Perran to Wadebridge local service behind an ex GW pannier.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-011017155703.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56288)
This was followed by BB 34066 Spitfire with the 1.20 arrival at Port Perran from Wadebridge.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-011017155834.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56289)
20 minutes later a prarie tank passed with a pick up goods from Truro bound for Trepol Bay.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-011017160042.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56290)
At 2.00 a SR N class mogul heads towards Truro with a special freight working from Wadebridge containing some interesting loads.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-011017160255.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56291)
Finally at 14.25 Alan was rewarded with a Standard 4 Tank at the head of a parcels train from Truro to North Cornwall.
As well as the trains, Alan was pleased to capture a variety of road vehicles crossing the over bridge.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 01, 2017, 04:10:22 pm
Thank you, Martin, for a very nice set of 'old' black and white photos.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on October 02, 2017, 07:18:22 am
Thank you for another excellent set of photos Martin. As you say, an interesting variety of vehicles on the road!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Bealman on October 02, 2017, 07:45:11 am
Great pics! The forum seems to be getting right back into the monochrome lately!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 02, 2017, 09:13:14 am
Well done, Young Alan.

Excellent photographs for such an unsophisticated camera.  You were fortunate to get your film developed so quickly; it takes our chemist ages.  I hope you take many more photographs of trains round about where you live.

Best wishes.

John

PS I hope you had a good birthday - it looks like you did!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 02, 2017, 06:55:37 pm
Well done, Young Alan.

Excellent photographs for such an unsophisticated camera.  You were fortunate to get your film developed so quickly; it takes our chemist ages.  I hope you take many more photographs of trains round about where you live.

Best wishes.

John

PS I hope you had a good birthday - it looks like you did!
Yes, the local branch of Boots are very quick. My dad is the manager - that helps!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 02, 2017, 08:33:18 pm
A lovely morning here so we did a 6 mile return walk from Bissoe to Devoran Creek along what would have been (until 1915) the trackbed of the Redruth and Chasewarer railway. Had some good views of trains high up on Carnon Viaduct on the Truro-Falmouth branchline.
Anyway, This afternoon I started on the big tidy up in the train room. All un-necessary timber is now in the shed. My fiddle yard is now exactly that and not a storage space for tools and materials. All stock, except that regularly in use, has been stowed away tidily.
Tomorrow, I aim to tidy my bits and pieces boxes (all 5 pf them) so that I can actually find things.
I really must make myself become tidier!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 03, 2017, 08:57:50 am
A lovely morning here so we did a 6 mile return walk from Bissoe to Devoran Creek along what would have been (until 1915) the trackbed of the Redruth and Chasewarer railway. Had some good views of trains high up on Carnon Viaduct on the Truro-Falmouth branchline.
Anyway, This afternoon I started on the big tidy up in the train room. All un-necessary timber is now in the shed. My fiddle yard is now exactly that and not a storage space for tools and materials. All stock, except that regularly in use, has been stowed away tidily.
Tomorrow, I aim to tidy my bits and pieces boxes (all 5 pf them) so that I can actually find things.
I really must make myself become tidier!

That's certainly jolly good War Work, Martin.

If you succeed in making yourself become tidier, I should be grateful if you would kindly pass on the secret to me.

I know that I have a 'Sundeala'-topped 2m x 1m surface somewhere in the Train Set Room on which to plan out a 'proper' British 'N' gauge layout.  It might be below the Matterhorn of junk.  Better start excavating!

All good wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 03, 2017, 08:37:48 pm
94xx panniers were seldom seen on the line from Truro to Newquay and Wadebridge via Chacewater but this evening 8486 (of Truro depot) restored to GWR livery by the CLPG is seen approaching Trepol Bay with empty cattle wagons. The wagons are in fact en-route to Gwinnear Road and on to Helston where they will be used to transport late season potatoes to London:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-031017203432.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56333)
An unusually good late season crop has necessitated the use of all available spare cattle wagons to form extra trains from West Cornwall to cope with the larger than normal supplies.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: mattycoops43 on October 03, 2017, 08:57:15 pm
That is a lovely atmospheric photo!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 03, 2017, 09:00:38 pm
Thanks, Martin, for another very nice photo. You have the sun shining nicely on the cattle vans.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 03, 2017, 09:03:34 pm
Thanks, Martin, for another very nice photo. You have the sun shining nicely on the cattle vans.
Well........the spotlight anyway!
Creates a reasonable impression of late evening Autumnal sun.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on October 04, 2017, 07:29:42 am
Thanks for all the fantastic pictures Martin, really atmospheric and love the attention to detail of changing the road traffic too :)

Look forward to the next roll of film out of young Alan's box brownie
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 04, 2017, 05:02:50 pm
Thanks for all the fantastic pictures Martin, really atmospheric and love the attention to detail of changing the road traffic too :)

Look forward to the next roll of film out of young Alan's box brownie
He's at school all week but has been promised that he can go out with a brand new roll of film on Saturday (weather permitting).
Mum has promised to get in supplies for him to pack in his duffel bag - small tizer, lyons apple pie, smith's crisps (with a blue salt twist), box of tofettes and cheese and pickle sandwiches.
An all day rail rover ticket covering all of Cornwall will cost two and six (for the not so old that's 12.5p in new money).
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on October 04, 2017, 07:41:11 pm
I seem to remember that Holiday runabout tickets were £1.0s.0d, but that was for a week.  So 2/6d for a day seems better value - eight days for £1.0s.0d.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 04, 2017, 07:46:47 pm
A very nice return to the early 1960s, Martin. I'm reminded of similar packed lunches for trainspotting trips in the late 1960s, early 1970s. Let's hope the young lad has good, sunny weather, this weekend.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 04, 2017, 08:33:09 pm
A pleasant evening in West Cornwall today witnessed two trains in quick succession passing Perran Sands Halt.
First we see a Standard 4 with a train of uncut logs for The Port Perran Timber Merchants. The hopper wagon contains coke for use in heating the workshops and sawmills (no doubt management atr gearing up for Winter):
The train has just passed over the viaduct spanning Penwinnick Creek. The pigs (including a few Gloucester Old Spots) seem unconcerned:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-041017202520.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56364)
Due to an increase in business, it is anticipated that in the near future, the timber merchants will be investing in some wagons of their own to be painted in a keenly anticipated livery.
Shortly after we see the Wadebridge to Truro Yard evening pick up goods behind a black liveried prarie tank:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-041017202820.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56365)
The single wagon and brake van suggest little goods traffic this evening. Surely adding weight to Dr Beeching's argument that the local goods concept is somewhat uneconomic!
Judging by the passengers on the small platform, a local passenger train is due shortly.
The prarie is taking the Port Perran avoiding line, maybe indicating that a wagon or two are due to be collected from the Headland Brewery.
One again the local livestock (this time horses belonging to farmer John Trevago) are quite uninterested.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 04, 2017, 08:43:00 pm
Thank you for two more very nice photos., Martin. I will have to try lighting Cant Cove with a standard lamp.

Once the weather turns colder, there will be wagons of household coal for the pick-up goods to deliver from Wadebridge or Truro.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on October 04, 2017, 08:47:08 pm
Very nice pics, Martin, but I could have done without the reminder of the Lyons apple pies as I seem to recall them being thumbnails in apple purée wrapped in cardboard :sick2: ;)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 05, 2017, 07:33:28 pm
These are super photographs; thank you very much.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 06, 2017, 08:33:45 pm
Trepol Bay, although very much a former LSWR station laying at the very end of that company's North Cornwall line, usually sees more ex GW locos than Southern examples. However, this afternoon our photographer captured a busy Southern dominated scene:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-061017202839.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56403)
The D65xx has just arrived with a train for Wadebridge from Truro.
The green liveried Standard 5 will follow later with a stopping train to Wadebridge whilst the N mogul is at the head of a parcels train for Exeter(via Wadebridge). The BB pacific arrived earlier with a train for Truro which was worked oneards from Trepol Bay by a BR(W) small prarie. The BB will return eastwards later this evening.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 06, 2017, 08:37:58 pm
After some 2 years, I've noticed an omission from the station area at Trepol Bay.
I know there are no signals yet but I do have them ready for painting. I hope to install them later this year.
But .....something very important is missing. Something vital to the steam age. I don't know how I overlooked it! But I did.
Any ideas as to what's missing?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 06, 2017, 08:46:03 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for another excellent, sunlit photo.

A water crane at the end of each platform? A water crane and a coaling stage at the loco. shed?

I'm afraid work is preventing me for posting more photos. but I do have a couple to post. When I need a break from work, this weekend, I'll add another short episode.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 06, 2017, 08:49:47 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for another excellent, sunlit photo.

A water crane at the end of each platform? A water crane and a coaling stage at the loco. shed?

I'm afraid work is preventing me for posting more photos. but I do have a couple to post. When I need a break from work, this weekend, I'll add another short episode.
I thought you'd spot the omission Chris. The small shed is fine with a water tower and coaling facilities but somehow I forgot the water cranes in the station area. Not sure how I've never noticed the omission. Port Perran station is suitably equipped. I shall rectify the situation at Trepol Bay in due course!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 06, 2017, 09:00:58 pm
Thanks, Martin. I was pretty certain that the small shed had a water tower and coaling facilities but couldn't remember seeing any at the platform ends. (Mind you, I have still to install mine as the loco. shed area will not be tackled until next year.) Unlike Trepol Bay, there does not need to be one on either of the platforms at Cant Cove as there are platform mounted water cranes at Wadebridge and Penmayne stations. (I'm hoping that someone will produce an N Scale LSWR type water crane. Maybe, a 3D print? I may investigate commissioning one.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 07, 2017, 11:31:32 am
Young Alan Trago has again been out and about with his Box Brownie this morning. He's hoping to get to Boots in Truro (on his bicycle) in order to get his film developed.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 07, 2017, 02:32:46 pm
Splendid, Martin.  And as Mr Trago is the branch manager, we'll hopefully see the results very soon.

I'm looking forward to it...

Toodle-oo.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 07, 2017, 02:55:28 pm
Splendid, Martin.  And as Mr Trago is the branch manager, we'll hopefully see the results very soon.
I'm looking forward to it...
Toodle-oo.

John
He's going to be in a very sorry and soggy state once he gets home. Despite it being sunny when young Alan took his photos this morning, it is now raining hard. Alan forgot to take his plastic pac a mac.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on October 07, 2017, 03:39:50 pm
He'll be OK after a hot bath and a bowl of soup.

Luckily, in the same County, a couple of the Chelsea Girls remembered theirs...

http://www.alter-ego.com/userfiles/rainwear%20&%20coats/27%20march%202009.jpg (http://www.alter-ego.com/userfiles/rainwear%20&%20coats/27%20march%202009.jpg)   :D

Looking forward to the pics Martin.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:

PS. Just found out, on 'the Wookery' (I think) post that you're a Robin and therefore not a Gashead. Hope I'm correct in this. I had a lot of mates from Brizzle at Poly so they were, and still are a bit, my third team.



Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 07, 2017, 03:49:34 pm
He'll be OK after a hot bath and a bowl of soup.

Luckily, in the same County, a couple of the Chelsea Girl's remembered theirs...

[url]http://www.alter-ego.com/userfiles/rainwear%20&%20coats/27%20march%202009.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.alter-ego.com/userfiles/rainwear%20&%20coats/27%20march%202009.jpg[/url])   :D

Looking forward to the pics Martin.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:

PS. Just found out, on 'the Wookery' (I think) post that you're a Robin and therefore not a Gashead. Hope I'm correct in this. I had a lot of mates from Brizzle at Poly so they were, and still are a bit, my third team.

Thanks for that picture Chris.
Yes, raining cats and dogs here so those Chelsea Girls are well prepared.
Yes, I'm very much a Robin indeed. Used to watch them home and away every week when I lived up that way. Still get up there 4 or 5 times each season - a good excuse for a train ride!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2017, 03:56:57 pm
Thanks, Chris (Weave). It's a photo. of Monique and Angela modelling a new line of Mary Quant plastic raingear.

I'm sure that Alan's Mum had a nice mug of hot cocoa waiting for her son when he came home.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 07, 2017, 04:39:26 pm
Alan made it home and is feeling much better after a cocoa and a special treat.....a Cadbury's flake.
Anyway, he's very pleased with most of his pictures all of which were taken in and around Port Perran.
He was very excited on arrival to find, very unusually, a Grange at the small shed :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-071017163047.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56433)
A pannier shunts in and around the goods yard:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-071017163203.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56434)
An Ivatt tank about to depart for Newquay :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-071017163336.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56435)
Alan popped up into town and was rewarded with the sight of a pannier with a china clay train on the level crossing :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-071017163512.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56436)
Back at the station a prarie with a bubble car just arrived from Truro :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-071017163619.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56437)
Finally Alan managed to snap a 14xx just arrived with its single autocoach:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-071017163738.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56438)
Overall, young Alan was very pleased. 6 photos from his roll of 8 were fairly good. He's looking forward to sharing them with his friends.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2017, 04:47:56 pm
Young Alan, did very well. That's six excellent photos. A few more years and he might get a part-time job as a photographer on the local newspaper once he turns sixteen? (Or would it be fourteen in the 1960s?)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: gc4946 on October 07, 2017, 04:59:38 pm
The 1944 Education Act in England and Wales raised the school leaving age to 15.
It became 16 from 1973.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_education_in_England
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2017, 05:17:28 pm
Thanks, so 15, then?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on October 07, 2017, 05:34:47 pm
Young Alan, did very well. That's six excellent photos. A few more years and he might get a part-time job as a photographer on the local newspaper once he turns sixteen? (Or would it be fourteen in the 1960s?)
Seconded.  And, yes it was fifteen.  My dad left school at fourteen because, if you didn't get a place at a secondary school, fourteen was the latest you could stay on at elementary school.  In those days (1927) apprenticeship were still seven years, which had been the case for several centuries.  Once they started to put up the leaving age, apprenticeships became shorter because the 'graduation' age was still 21, when the apprentice officially became a man.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: gc4946 on October 07, 2017, 05:38:10 pm
Young Alan, did very well. That's six excellent photos. A few more years and he might get a part-time job as a photographer on the local newspaper once he turns sixteen? (Or would it be fourteen in the 1960s?)

Alan was thinking of his next move ...

he's going to ask his dad over the next few weeks, can I please get a roll of colour film for Xmas?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 07, 2017, 09:35:13 pm
These are wonderful photographs.  Full of life.  Inspirational!

Much as I like a nice colour photograph, well-lit black and white has that extra 'something'.  It's the same with old films.  Like, for example, 'Brief Encounter'.  I wish I could explain what the 'something' is.  But I can't.

I know that I'll never take such good photographs of any model railway that I build, but I promise to try.

Many thanks and toodle-pip.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on October 07, 2017, 10:14:37 pm
Hi Martin (and young Alan),

Thanks for the pics. Also the fact that you put the photo description before the photo not after  :thumbsup: (sorry, just one of my little niggly pet hates).

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 08, 2017, 03:36:19 pm
The Port Perran timber merchants have now established a nationwide reputation for its timber and timber related products. As such, the company has comissioned a fleet of its own private owner wagons in a distinctive red livery.
Here we see a train (composed of the new stock) undergoing trials:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-081017153613.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56461)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 08, 2017, 03:53:46 pm
Great photograph!  Just shows what interesting photographic opportunities one can obtain if one's chum is the CO of the local RAF station...

And a very nice train as well.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 08, 2017, 04:44:03 pm
Thank you, Martin, for this excellent photo. showing show of the results of all your hard work. After the recent dinner at Trevelver Castle many timber contracts have, indeed, been signed not just across the UK but in the Continent, too. As a result, some ex-SR "Tarpaulin" 'Ferry' wagons will also be used for continental traffic as well as the long-distance UK 'Fast Freight' services.

The new goods rolling stock will soon be appearing beyond Cornwall, thus helping to keep the West Country's rail network open and profitable.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 08, 2017, 11:19:34 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks Martin (& Alan) for the latest   :greatpicturessign: all looking really excellent. Hope the tidy up went well
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 13, 2017, 07:49:04 pm
A close up of the Headland Brewery premises at Port Perran with a pannier running light engine along the station avoiding line.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-131017194407.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56671)
Close ups always highlight little jobs still to be done. I haven't finished adding rust to the side of the rails and the Headland yellow sign is wonkey!
The Bass van is being loaded with barrells of Summer Lightning for eventual distribution throughout Derbyshire. Supplies of Bass Best Bitter having already been unloaded at the Headland distribution depot at Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 14, 2017, 10:33:01 am
Thnks for another excellent photo., Martin. It's, alas, very true that close-up photos. do reveal those missing details.

Seeing the Headland Brewery reminds me that a batch of sunshades in the overall black of the brewery's livery, supplied by the advertising agency, Trevelver and Guillou (Wadebridge and London), (Sylvia and Eli), along with others for the "Castle Brewery" and the "Castle Estates" in the appropriate shades of blue, is awaiting despatch to Port Perran.

I have four 57xx pannier tanks [now all DCC-fitted]; two Dapol and two old Grahan Farish. Two are SR (Wadebridge 72F) ones: 4666 and 4694 and two WR (St Blazey 83E) ones. One of the St. Blazey ones will be Dapol N - 8750  0-6-0 PANNIER TANK BR PLAIN BLACK E/C 6713 renumbered and with shedplates as 4665 (83D). The other being 9655 (83D). So, this Early Crest pannier tank can work 'through'. However, in general, all BR WR goods services between Bodmin - Wadebridge - and Penmayne are worked by 45xx 2-6-2Ts, mainly 4575s, as the older 45xx Small Prairie tanks were the first to be withdrawn by BR WR, very few lasting in Cornwall into 1962.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on October 16, 2017, 02:59:01 pm
Hi Martin,

Sorry. Please ignore.

Chris (weave)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: themadhippy on October 16, 2017, 03:35:14 pm
Quote
but is the sky a very eerie yellow because of some shenanigans going on in Cornwall
The cause is a bit further south ,sand from the  sahra desert is  being picked up by hurricane ophelia ,its also turned the sun red
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on October 16, 2017, 03:40:10 pm
Hi,

Yes I know, it was a joke, but didn't realise how bad the hurricane is in Ireland and elsewhere so didn't want to offend anyone so tried to remove.

Sorry again weave.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 16, 2017, 04:22:28 pm
No worries.
I feel for those in Ireland and elsewhere who are suffering.
Here in Cornwall its extremely windy but no more so than an average Winter storm.
Martin
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 16, 2017, 04:24:52 pm
No worries.
I feel for those in Ireland and elsewhere who are suffering.
Here in Cornwall its extremely windy but no more so than an average Winter storm.
Martin

Seconded, Martin. Here it's hot, sunny and calm so I've been doing a lot of spraypainting ready for the next delivery. I hope photos., Wednesday.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 16, 2017, 07:17:17 pm
Today, saw a very colourful train passing through Port Perran. We see a commendably clean Standard 5MT at the head of several individual box vans in the liveries of local companies (or in some cases companies from further afield with strong affiliations with Cornwall).
The train is a special working (travelling throughout Cornwall) advertising the products of the various trading organisations:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-161017191650.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56782)

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on October 16, 2017, 08:01:10 pm
Hi Martin,

Another lovely photo. It still amazes me how much detail you have in such small spaces.

My Christmas wish list is going to have to be better glasses, a stronger light, decent tweezers and a steady hand (although I think that ship sailed many moons ago laden with barrels of grog :doh:).

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS. Just to say my missus, who doesn't really take much interest as not a train fan, was passing the computer as I was looking and loved your cottages  :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 16, 2017, 08:31:09 pm
It was very nice of Mrs Weave to comment so positively. We actually live in a small cottage just like one of those. Unfortunately, we don’t overlook the railway.
I too suffer from fading eyesight - a common problem I’m afraid.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 16, 2017, 08:51:12 pm
Thank you, Martin, for an excellent photo. of a very colourful rake of vans, indeed.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 16, 2017, 09:20:20 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks for another wonderful photo Martin, as always looks superb
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 16, 2017, 09:50:03 pm
Thank you for a super photograph, Martin.

There has clearly been a lot of pride in the job from the Port Perran C&W Dept.  These splendid PO vans even have red buffer beams.  No wonder the Loco. turned out a 'bulled up' 'Standard Five' - can't let the side down!

Thanks again and all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 17, 2017, 05:06:34 pm
Thank you for a super photograph, Martin.

There has clearly been a lot of pride in the job from the Port Perran C&W Dept.  These splendid PO vans even have red buffer beams.  No wonder the Loco. turned out a 'bulled up' 'Standard Five' - can't let the side down!

Thanks again and all best wishes.

John

Thank you, John. They are the result of joint work: the chassis and, where applicable roof, by the CLPG at Cant Cove and the exterior bodywork by the CLPG Port Perran or the Trepol Bay wagon works. (Should there be interest in these, elsewhere, the final batches are being prepared, soon!)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 18, 2017, 08:01:00 pm
An interesting contraption photographed as part of an engineers train approaching Port Perran today.
It is an ancient metal and wood frame loaded onto a flat bed wagon.
But.......anyone know what it is.?
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-181017200004.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56859)
Chris (in P) is not allowed to answer as he knows exactly what it is!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on October 18, 2017, 08:18:44 pm
Could it be part of a trestle  bridge?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 18, 2017, 08:30:37 pm
Could it be part of a trestle  bridge?
Could be but.....wrong.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 18, 2017, 08:36:36 pm
Don't worry, Martin. I was not going to spoil the fun. (I do have one myself but have not had the time to assemble and paint it; I plan to paint mine brown then heavily weather it with matt black.) Yours looks very good, Martin.

Nice to see the BR Crimson Siphon G in recent photos. at Port Perran, too. (I do like the Lima Siphons in every livery. Eventually, all mine will get Dapol Siphon chassis plus some detailing.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on October 18, 2017, 08:48:25 pm
Evening all,

While I have a proper think, I'm going to say it's an empty York Stone slab Transporter as it looks like the one in our driveway that I still haven't taken to the tip as I have to smash it up first (apparently) and my axe is blunt.

Maybe the engineers are building a patio  :)

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 18, 2017, 08:51:29 pm
Evening all,

While I have a proper think, I'm going to say it's an empty York Stone slab Transporter as it looks like the one in our driveway that I still haven't taken to the tip as I have to smash it up first (apparently) and my axe is blunt.

Maybe the engineers are building a patio  :)

Cheers weave  :beers:
Hmmmm
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on October 18, 2017, 08:55:04 pm
Is it to do with making concrete buffer stops?

More wine needed  :beers: weave
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 18, 2017, 08:55:57 pm
Is it to do with making concrete buffer stops?

More wine needed  :beers: weave
Sorry.....wrong!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on October 18, 2017, 09:01:52 pm
Evening all,

While I have a proper think, I'm going to say it's an empty York Stone slab Transporter as it looks like the one in our driveway that I still haven't taken to the tip as I have to smash it up first (apparently) and my axe is blunt.

Maybe the engineers are building a patio  :)

Cheers weave  :beers:
Hmmmm

So does Hmmmm mean you were on the right lines or was it a typo?

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on October 18, 2017, 09:04:26 pm
Sleeper transporter?

 :beers: me again
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 18, 2017, 09:18:35 pm
Suitably weathered to match the Peco ex-single bolster wagon I will send you will make a perfect wagon for carrying this (as will my matching one).

I hope to take some photos., tomorrow but it's been very dark, here.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 18, 2017, 10:03:38 pm
Sleeper transporter?

 :beers: me again
Good guess but........wrong again I’m afraid
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 18, 2017, 11:20:01 pm
 :hellosign: Could it be a large animal transporter Martin? maybe
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: PennineWagons on October 18, 2017, 11:25:22 pm
An interesting contraption photographed as part of an engineers train approaching Port Perran today.
It is an ancient metal and wood frame loaded onto a flat bed wagon.
But.......anyone know what it is.?
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-181017200004.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56859[/url])
Chris (in P) is not allowed to answer as he knows exactly what it is!



I reckon it's a tunnel inspection platform, used by the engineers to get up close to the roof of a tunnel so they can check if there are any problems.
PW
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 19, 2017, 07:22:10 am
:hellosign: Could it be a large animal transporter Martin? maybe
        regards Derek.
Ni e idea but.....wrong.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 19, 2017, 07:23:06 am
An interesting contraption photographed as part of an engineers train approaching Port Perran today.
It is an ancient metal and wood frame loaded onto a flat bed wagon.
But.......anyone know what it is.?
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-181017200004.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56859[/url])
Chris (in P) is not allowed to answer as he knows exactly what it is!



I reckon it's a tunnel inspection platform, used by the engineers to get up close to the roof of a tunnel so they can check if there are any problems.
PW

First prize to that man.
Yes indeed it is a tunnel inspection platform.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: PennineWagons on October 19, 2017, 12:31:35 pm

I reckon it's a tunnel inspection platform, used by the engineers to get up close to the roof of a tunnel so they can check if there are any problems.
PW
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First prize to that man.
Yes indeed it is a tunnel inspection platform.

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Hurrah! And you were saying that the prize is a crate of Castle Brewery lager? Just send it to my local station here at Dog End, and I'll go down to the goods shed in a few days and pick it up...
PW
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 19, 2017, 12:54:48 pm
Actually, it will be "Headland Brewery" as that is the Port Perran brewery. The "Castle Brewery" is at Cant Cove.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 20, 2017, 08:42:12 pm
A wagon loaded with crates of Summer Lightning ale is shunted out of the Headland Brewery siding at Port Perran.
The wagon will later be added to a train bound for Plymouth and onwards.
Final destination......Dog End.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-201017204156.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56964)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2017, 08:57:04 pm
A wagon loaded with crates of Summer Lightning ale is shunted out of the Headland Brewery siding at Port Perran.
The wagon will later be added to a train bound for Plymouth and onwards.
Final destination......Dog End.
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-201017204156.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56964[/url])


Thanks for another very good photo., Martin. Good to see it going to a good home. 8-)

The Wadebridge Yardmaster has heard from his Perthshire contact that a very similar van did safely arrive there.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: PennineWagons on October 20, 2017, 10:36:12 pm
A wagon loaded with crates of Summer Lightning ale is shunted out of the Headland Brewery siding at Port Perran.
The wagon will later be added to a train bound for Plymouth and onwards.
Final destination......Dog End.
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/230-201017204156.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56964[/url])


Thanks for another very good photo., Martin. Good to see it going to a good home. 8-)

The Wadebridge Yardmaster has heard from his Perthshire contact that a very similar van did safely arrive there.


Summer Lightning sounds just the job for these chilly autumn evenings here up North!
The regulars at the Golden Fleece are keenly looking forward to sampling this exotic brew from strange foreign parts...
PW
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 21, 2017, 09:11:50 pm
 :hellosign: Another excellent photo Martin,
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 22, 2017, 07:54:41 pm
The usual early Sunday evening running session today sees typical BR (W) action at Port Perran. This is despite the fact that the station frequently witnesses a variety of ex SR locos and stock.
First we see a prarie tank heading a couple of horse boxes eastward towards Trepol Bay. The 14xx will later take its autocoach on the short (1.5 mile) trip to Penwinnick village :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-221017194902.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57110)
Shortly after the 14xx gets underway whilst a 64xx pannier arrives with a local from Truro (via Chacewater) which it will work on to Newquay:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-221017195138.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57111)
A closer view of the 14xx departing. The gentleman on the platform appears to be waving someone off:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-221017195427.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57112)


Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 22, 2017, 08:01:56 pm
Absolutely spiffing photographs, Martin; thank you very much.

These pictures capture the very essence of the fun of model railways.

All best wishes.

John.

PS  I wondered if the gentleman was actually waving at our intrepid photographer!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 22, 2017, 08:04:03 pm
Absolutely spiffing photographs, Martin; thank you very much.

These pictures capture the very essence of the fun of model railways.

All best wishes.

John.

PS  I wondered if the gentleman was actually waving at our intrepid photographer!
You may be right. Nevertheless, he seems to have interesting headgear!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 22, 2017, 08:07:19 pm
Thank you very much, Martin, for three excellent WR photos. Very good to see three matching BR Lined Green passenger locos. at work with BR Lined Maroon passenger stock on a lovely sunny day.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 22, 2017, 08:14:18 pm
Thanks Chris. As you know, fairly close up photos reveal blemishes (such as badly aligned coping stones and wonky platform lights - to name a couple).with retirement in 2 weeks, I’ll hopefully have some time to correct these things.
And perhaps wire up the lights - a job I’ve been putting off on Port Perran.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 22, 2017, 08:25:07 pm
Working lights definitely are worth the effort, Martin. (However, I'm very fortunate, I don't have to do the wiring!)arrival to test

The Wadebridge Yardmaster has alerted his Port Perran colleague of an interesting arrival, this week.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: trkilliman on October 22, 2017, 08:30:53 pm
Thanks Chris. As you know, fairly close up photos reveal blemishes (such as badly aligned coping stones and wonky platform lights - to name a couple).with retirement in 2 weeks, I’ll hopefully have some time to correct these things.
And perhaps wire up the lights - a job I’ve been putting off on Port Perran.


So Martin, when we meet up in a few weeks time I'll be sure to ask you...are you coping in retirement.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 22, 2017, 08:40:44 pm
Thanks Chris. As you know, fairly close up photos reveal blemishes (such as badly aligned coping stones and wonky platform lights - to name a couple).with retirement in 2 weeks, I’ll hopefully have some time to correct these things.
And perhaps wire up the lights - a job I’ve been putting off on Port Perran.


So Martin, when we meet up in a few weeks time I'll be sure to ask you...are you coping in retirement.
Hopefully, I’ll be coping just fine Steve.
Very much looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 23, 2017, 08:18:11 pm
A couple of new WR suburban carriages have arrived in West Cornwall today thanks to Chris (in P).
Here we see one of Truro’s two large praries at the head of  the 10.02 (ex Truro) all stations stopper to Newquay. This train is Known  affectionately as “The Housewife’s Choice” due to the fact that many women use the train for shopping (today being market day in Newquay) :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-231017201718.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57130)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 23, 2017, 08:25:46 pm
Today, I’ve made a start on the behind the scenes part of Port Perran. This will eventually link to the fiddle yard behind Trepol Bay. I’ve had track running here for some time but it has been completely non scenic.
Now I plan to make it pure countryside (possibly with Autumnal colour).
This is just a start. As you can probably see, there is a lowered section allowing the railway to be built up on an embankment. I also propose sweeping curves (I’m sre NN will approve).
Lots of work to be done but this is the very beginning :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-231017202449.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57135)
Looks a bit messy at the moment but it will all come together. Hopefully, it will allow me to take photos of trains in the countryside.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 23, 2017, 08:46:09 pm
Thank you for these two photographs, Martin.  The 'Housewife's Choice' is certainly an interesting train.  It's a busy scene at PP today with three locomotives on view.  It would be lovely to sit on the platform and take in the atmosphere.

The 'behind the scenes' view is fascinating and I look forward to seeing it develop into a 'train in the countryside' scene (precisely what British 'N' gauge does best, I think).  Autumn colour (I guess November in Cornwall) would be a splendid idea.

With all good wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on October 23, 2017, 08:51:06 pm
Hi Martin,

Love the first pic and very much looking forward to your new scenic area.

Please don't wave your magic wand too quickly, you'll put some of us to shame again.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 23, 2017, 08:55:06 pm
Hi Martin,

Love the first pic and very much looking forward to your new scenic area.

Please don't wave your magic wand too quickly, you'll put some of us to shame again.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:
With retirement looming, the idea is to take things much more slowly so I won’t be rushing the new scenic bit. I’m looking forward to the challenge of creating an Autumnal scene.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 23, 2017, 09:21:51 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks Martin for the latest photos, looking forward to seeing the countryside scene develop
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on October 23, 2017, 09:27:30 pm
Hi Martin,

Being a Landscape/Maintenance Gardener I get bogged down in the annoyance of leaves. However, I do love the smell of Autumn and having 4 dogs I can walk them on the common and appreciate the beautiful changing colours (knowing I don't have to clear up  :)).

Will be good to see how you do it and if you Large Chicken :) up the n gauge leaves on the ground I'll come down with my leaf blower (mini vac) to help out. I'll tell the wife that I promised.... Cornwall Road Trip!  :claphappy:

As I said, looking forward.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:

PS Don't worry I'm not going to crash your place, although you did say in an earlier thread that you would keep the coffee creams for me  :hmmm:  ;)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on October 23, 2017, 09:31:55 pm
That was strange. I didn't write 'Large Chicken' it edited itself. Come on guys is censorship that bad?

Sorry Martin. Having a moment.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 23, 2017, 09:34:47 pm
Thanks Chris (Weave). Too many Chris’s around here. Can get confusing.
I just think Autumn makes a change from the usual Summer scenes.
I’ll hoard the coffee creams. I love coffee but as for coffee chocolates - not for me I’m afraid.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 23, 2017, 09:36:54 pm
That was strange. I didn't write 'Large Chicken' it edited itself. Come on guys is censorship that bad?

Sorry Martin. Having a moment.
So......been trying to work it out.
What is Large Chicken meant to be?
Nice concept though!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 23, 2017, 09:44:28 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for another excellent, sunlit photograph. The two BR Crimson WR BR Standard Suburban coaches do look very good behind the 'Large Prairie' and will, I'm sure, come in very useful. This pair (Brake End and Composite) will also be suitable for 'through' running, as will be explained on the Cant Cove thread, in due course.

I look forward to seeing the new scenic section take shape. I'm sure it will look excellent. The more time you spend on it, the better it will be. As it is, there is plenty of detailing on the existing layout to keep you busy for a while. 8-) They are very time consuming but well worth it even if they only show up in closeup photos.!

Have you thought about trying static grass on that new embankment? I plan to try the Peco static grass (a Spring / Summer mix) on the estuary embankment at Cant Cove, later this year.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 23, 2017, 09:51:50 pm
Hi Chris.
I’m not a fan of static grass I’m afraid. It just never looks right to me in N scale (even when well done). Hence, I’ll be sticking with scatter material.
The new coaches do look good though.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on October 24, 2017, 12:11:41 am
Hi Martin,

Sorry again to sort off hijack your thread but regarding the 'large chicken' thing, I put in another word and sent the post, those words came up (my word began with C and rhymes with lock by the way).

Hope that explains it and am going to be asking questions because that's wrong.

Sorry, thanks,

weave  :beers:



Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on October 24, 2017, 06:28:51 am
The term c(l)ock-up come from carpentry, apparently.  If the carpenter badly set the blade of a plane the shavings would c(l)ock-up and he would make a mess of the planing.  There is nothing rude about the term at all.  I have had to insert a bracketed (l) to prevent a flock of large chickens.  Of course, a c(l)ock isn't a large chicken at all, it's a male (sometimes called a capon).  It takes imagination to create a term like Large Chicken :)-a-doodle-do! 
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on October 24, 2017, 07:26:06 am
Look forward to (slower) progress on the new scenic section Martin. Could there be scope for a bridge or viaduct in the lowered section?!?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 24, 2017, 07:28:48 am
Hi Chris.
I’m not a fan of static grass I’m afraid. It just never looks right to me in N scale (even when well done). Hence, I’ll be sticking with scatter material.
The new coaches do look good though.

Thanks, Martin. I have wondered about static grass in N Scale but, having seen it look good in photos. of layouts on the Forum, want to try it at the front of the layout. Further back, I think scatter looks better. However, it's not something I'll be trying soon.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 24, 2017, 08:08:39 am
Look forward to (slower) progress on the new scenic section Martin. Could there be scope for a bridge or viaduct in the lowered section?!?
I’m thinking an embankment with a very small culvert running through it.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: wookie on October 25, 2017, 07:56:54 pm
Glad to see some progress being made Martin.
I look forward to seeing your embankment - it may give me some hints for mine!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 25, 2017, 08:01:53 pm
A visitor to Cornwall this week (it being half term) was out with his camera in Trepol Bay harbour today and was rewarded with two very interesting trains.
First we have a special working (returning from Wadebridge to Truro)conveying members of the Cornwall Railway Society who had been visiting the Chna clay workings around Wenfordbridge. Very interestingly , and quite unusually, the train is double headed by a Manor and a Grange.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-251017195423.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57222)
Apologies, the Manor is slightly out of focus. I was worried that this pair wouldn’t run well together but it actually wasn’t a problem. They did look good running together with a train of 5 choc and cream carriages.

Secondly we see an M7 at the head of a very short goods headed for the Wadebridge area conveying lime from Derbyshire to be used as a croo fertiliser. The special wagon contains loose granules whilst the van contains superior quality bagged lime:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-251017195739.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57225)
It is pleasing that our photographer managed to capture the local class 08 shunting the harbour area at the same time.
The photographs appear to exaggerate the harbour incline a bit. It is fairly steep but not that bad. The 08 (or a pannier) can manage 4 or 5 wagons without any  problem up the slope.


Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 25, 2017, 08:12:53 pm
Thanks, Martin. For another two excellent photos. The sun always seems to shine at Trepol Bay! 8-) Green locos. with BR WR Chocolate & Cream coaches always look very good. Thank goodness, uniform rakes of the WR livery are still allowed, thanks to Lord Trevelver's efforts, in Cornwall! (The new WR Regional Manager, Stanley Raymond, on taking over, having ordered, in 1962, that such rakes be broken up and the WR use standard BR Lined Maroon coaches, instead. Such a rake is used for express services to and from Paddington.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 25, 2017, 09:47:33 pm
Thanks, Martin. For another two excellent photos. The sun always seems to shine at Trepol Bay! 8-) Green locos. with BR WR Chocolate & Cream coaches always look very good. Thank goodness, uniform rakes of the WR livery are still allowed, thanks to Lord Trevelver's efforts, in Cornwall! (The new WR Regional Manager, Stanley Raymond, on taking over, having ordered, in 1962, that such rakes be broken up and the WR use standard BR Lined Maroon coaches, instead. Such a rake is used for express services to and from Paddington.)

Seconded - marvellous photographs, thank you, Martin.

What can one say about Stanley Raymond's brief time at Paddington?  Possibly that most of the railwaymen were glad when GF (Gerry) Fiennes took over in October 1963.  One point perhaps worth remembering was that in Raymond's time the WR deficit of over £30m almost halved.  Hmmm.

John

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 25, 2017, 09:55:53 pm
Yes, indeed, John. 1962 is ideal for both Martin and I, whilst also matching the periods covered by Brian (Mito) and Chris (Weave). By 1963, WR steam had almost completely disappeared from the Southwest, so the chance to see working steam beyond Castle Cary and Bridgwater (west of which steam was supposed to be banned) is very appealing. By that time, though complete rakes in the WR's chocolate & cream livery no longer existed (although in Cornwall they, unofficially, live on).

On the WR, major changes had come on the appointment from outside as Regional Managers, Stanley Raymond (in 1962) and Gerry Fiennes (in 1963); both worked hard to eliminate the Western Region's large financial operating deficit. Some revenues were increased, but most of the savings came from cuts to routes, stations, goods depots, the locomotive and coach fleet, and staff numbers.

The whole of the Southern Region west of Salisbury was handed over to the Western Region from 1st January 1963 with line closures already rumoured. On 27 March 1963, Dr Richard Beeching, (the first Chairman of the British Railways Board (BRB) and already hard at work in 1962, having been appointed from 1 June, 1961), published his report on the future of the railways, entitled “The Reshaping of British Railways”. He called for the closure of one-third of the country's 7,000 railway stations. Passenger services would be withdrawn from around 5,000 route miles.

So, there were plenty of unsettling developments in 1962. Very fortunately, in our 'Alternative Cornwall', by 1961, the Alliance for Cornwall's Railways is already well-established and Sylvia and Eli well-experienced at marketing railways although all the lines in Cornwall are still operated by BR.

In June 1960, the Middleton Railway had become the first standard-gauge railway to be taken over and operated by unpaid volunteers. Before that, in 1951, railway enthusiast, Alan Pegler, was approached by friends to buy and clear the outstanding debt on the derelict Ffestiniog Railway, to enable its purchase. Lent £3,000 by his father, he and the volunteers obtained control of the company on 24 June 1954. Pegler was appointed the new company's first Chairman, with the objective to operate the railway as a tourist attraction and gradually restore the line to working order. So there is historical precedence and Alan Pegler has the knowledge and expertise to share. 8-)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 25, 2017, 10:19:19 pm
Many thanks for this, Chris; I love the concept of an 'Alternative Cornwall'.

All the best.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 26, 2017, 09:57:47 am
Many thanks for this, Chris; I love the concept of an 'Alternative Cornwall'.

All the best.

John

Thank you, John. I did a lot of research to work out how, plausibly, the railways in North and West Cornwall could have developed differently and survived Beeching. Martin and I have also come up with a detailed history, too, whereby railways came to North Cornwall earlier, thus tourism developed earlier and quicker (Penmayne grew to be almost as important as Newquay whilst Trepol Bay and Port Perran also developed thanks to the LSWR and GWR) and the planned but never built North Cornwall Railway extension line from Wadebridge to Truro via Newquay was built and also stayed open. (More details are on the NGF.) Through portions of overnight ex-Waterloo trains as well as the "Atlantic Coast Express" still serve both Penmayne (and Cant Cove; off-season, a single SK plus BCK) and Trepol Bay (off-season a single BCK), whilst Port Perran is served by Paddington trains via Truro and Newquay. BR SR and BR WR work in harmony with unnecessary duplication removed. WR and SR steam continue alongside diesel locomotives and WR diesel railcars and DMUs. If your modelling period covers c.1956 to c.1968 (Martin covers 1959-64), but especially 1962, then you're very welcome to run 'through' trains. 8-)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 27, 2017, 08:57:10 am
Many thanks, Chris (and Martin).

This is fascinating stuff!

And thank you very much for the kind offer of through workings - that's a lovely idea.  Although my original (and still main) plan is the Grouping to Hogmanay 1938 period, the recent arrival of D9007 'Pinza' has resulted in an alternative time of Summer 1961.  Just before the 'Great and Good Doctor' (ackn. GF Fiennes) got to work and the Modernisation Plan really took effect.  For me, with the benefit of hindsight and risking sounding a bit like Philip Larkin, the British Railway world's massive changes began in 1962/63.  The sunny summer of '61 appears to me to be the last opportunity to escape reaping the whirlwind. 

Thanks, both, again.

All the very best.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 27, 2017, 01:03:06 pm
Thank you, John. 1961 is a very good year, too, I agree. There's still lots for visiting rail enthusiasts to enjoy with plenty of BR WR steam around in Cornwall; although, officially, from 1961, what were to become Class 22s worked the Bodmin-Wadebridge trains, 4575s also still worked some trains (to 1964); and the last 4 T9s were at Okehampton until July 1961: 30313, 30709, 30715, and 30717, of which only 30313 is suitable as a Union Mills model (so I had better hurry up and order mine). Ex-GWR pannier tanks are still at work on the SR Padstow-Bodmin-Wadebridge trains (to 1963) and 'N' Class 2-6-0s and Bulleid Light Pacifics are common until 1964. There are no BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4Ts in use in North Cornwall but a BR Standard 3MT 2-6-2T might be seen as might an Ivatt 2-6-2T. The 02 0-4-4Ts have already gone though from the area. No diesel railcars or DMUs in North Cornwall either at this time.

D9007 "Pinza" (I remember it well) could bring a train of BR Standard Maroon coaches to the London area from where they could be worked by a "Grange" to Wadebridge, Cornwall, one portion going North to Penmayne behind a 'Large Prairie' and one South to Trepol Bay, Port Perran and Truro, behind the "Grange". The first portion then returns to Bodmin Road where it joins the Turo portion before the reunited train, behind the "Grange", after servicing at Truro,  returns to London and the North?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 28, 2017, 08:21:32 pm
A very busy scene at Trepol Bay harbour this evening:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-281017201930.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57433)
The local class 04 is busy shunting wagons whilst on the main line anove the harbour an N mogul passes the station on a parcels train.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 28, 2017, 08:37:58 pm
Gorgeous++!  Even the presence of a diesel fails to spoil the beauty of this little scene.
Such is the magic of British 'N' gauge.

I wonder how it would look with a steam engine shunting...

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 28, 2017, 10:08:46 pm
Gorgeous++!  Even the presence of a diesel fails to spoil the beauty of this little scene.
Such is the magic of British 'N' gauge.

I wonder how it would look with a steam engine shunting...

Best wishes.

John
They do appear sometimes.....
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 28, 2017, 10:57:53 pm
Thank you very much, Martin, for another excellent photo. Personally, I really like the Drewry diesel shunters and they were operating in the area, albeit from Plymouth Friary, from autumn 1957. So, D2290, which was allocated to the Southern Region, (however, 70C Guildford, then 71A Eastleigh), is quite appropriate shunting at Trepol Bay harbour when it is not acting as Cant Cove's shunter. [I need to renumber my D2290 to D2219. Going even further back it will be replaced by its BR Black Early Crest version, 11225, on loan from Plymouth Friary.]
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 29, 2017, 07:40:01 pm
Gorgeous++!  Even the presence of a diesel fails to spoil the beauty of this little scene.
Such is the magic of British 'N' gauge.

I wonder how it would look with a steam engine shunting...
Best wishes.
John

They do appear sometimes.....


And, by chance steam appeared on the harbour this afternoon, in lovely sunshine, as a pannier works a loaded fuel tanker. The diesel fuel willreplenish the storage tanks (for boats) at the end of the harbour.
It seems to be tea break time with several of the workers relaxing in the sunshine:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-291017193633.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57460)
A little later, as the evening shadows descend, the pannier is about to leave with the empty tank in tow. George, the harbour horse is towing an empty fish van away from the fish packing plant passing the small wagon workshop :

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-291017193925.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57461)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Pjlons83 on October 29, 2017, 07:43:03 pm
I do love your harbour. Great looking layout &  :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 29, 2017, 08:14:35 pm
Well, now I know how it looks with a steam engine shunting.

And, just to show that there is always scope for an agreeable surprise, George is shunting as well.

A steam engine and a heavy horse ... Perfection!  If I was fortunate enough to be standing on the harbour, I'd be in a dilemma as to whether to rush over to the 'Pannier' or to George.  It's fortunate that you haven't included an Airedale in the scene, as a trilemma might be beyond my ability to cope.

Thank you very much, Martin, for two splendid photographs.

All the very best.

John


Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: lil chris on October 29, 2017, 09:20:11 pm
Very nice Martin, the harbour looks really good too, nearly missed the horse.....thanks Train Waiting for pointing it out.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on October 30, 2017, 07:46:14 pm
Some interesting lumps of metal and wood make up the loads for a train heading West through Port Perran today.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-301017194300.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57493)
Thiese are largely old pieces of salvageable machinery from the long abandoned Wheal Robert copper mine near To Perranporth. The machinery will be cosmetically restored and displayed at the fledgling King Edward Mining Museum at Troon near Camborne.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 30, 2017, 08:07:00 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent and interesting photo.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on October 30, 2017, 08:13:56 pm
Just as well the train is heading west.  If it was going east, it might have ended up (eventually!) at the wrong Troon.  Of course, we would be very welcoming of another lovely Pannier tank here in Noble Caledonia!

A splendid photograph, thank you, with three 'Panniers' in view.  The lined green one looks particularly attractive.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on October 31, 2017, 07:10:25 am
Great loads Martin.  :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 31, 2017, 11:35:06 pm
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign: Many thanks Martin looking superb
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 01, 2017, 08:48:41 am
News soon spread about the aggressive Shell / BP salesman annoying the highly respected Wadebridge Yardmaster in his Wadebridge local. So, there was great local satisfaction that ESSO had retained the contract to supply diesel fuel to the storage tanks (for boats) at the end of the Trepol Bay Harbour and for boats calling at Penmayne Harbour. ESSO's pledge to continue to use rail transport also met with widespread acclaim as, thanks to the Association for Cornwall's Railways, everyone understands that it is essential to keep as much goods traffic on the rails in Cornwall. Fortunately, Shell / BP also understand this and will continue to use rail tankers to supply the road tankers used for delivery to local petrol stations, such as the Shell garage at Port Perran.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 03, 2017, 07:12:17 pm
The restored ex SR Black Motor passing through Trepol Bay this afternoon at the head of the beautifully restored rake of ex SR wagons forming a demonstration goods train:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-031117190931.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57591)
And a different view of Perran Sands Halt with a bubble car unit heading a local stopping train towards Newquay.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-031117191120.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57592)
The train will shortly pass over Penwinnick Creek viaduct but is waiting for a clear road.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 03, 2017, 07:28:00 pm
Oops.
Just noticed. I seem to have renamed Perran Sands Halt Perran Beach Halt.
I made that sign about a year ago and I’ve only just noticed the mistake!
Shows how closely I look.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 03, 2017, 07:41:39 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for these excellent phoitos. The demonstration SR goods train always looks very good, especially the "Pillbox" brake van.

Actually, I think Perran Beach Halt is a more attractive name. Talking of station name signs, the recent gales seem to have damaged the Trepol Bay sign on the platform. 8-(
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on November 03, 2017, 07:43:42 pm
The restored ex SR Black Motor passing through Trepol Bay this afternoon at the head of the beautifully restored rake of ex SR wagons forming a demonstration goods train:

Lovely photographs, Martin.  The 'Black Motor' has been beautifully restored.  That looks like a 'Battle of Britain' running tender first in the background.

Thank you very much.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 03, 2017, 07:54:45 pm
Chris, I agree I think. It’s easier to rename the Halt in the WTT rather than make a new sign so Perran Beach Halt it is.
And the gales are a good excuse for the leaning sign at Trepol Bay. Its actually my fault, of course. Ive been doing some fiddly work on the station area and must have caught the sign with my hand.

Annd yes John. The BB will be running tender first back to Wadebridge. There being no turntable atTrepol Bay. Some BB hauled trains travel right through to Truro where there is, of course , a turntable. The BBs just fit on the turntable there but the crews are pleased not to have to make a return tennder first journey.
You might just make out a Class 22 at Trepol Bay just above the pacific’s tender.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on November 03, 2017, 08:36:17 pm
Martin, It just shows you how much I know about these new-fangled diesels!  I guessed it was a 'Birmingham 'Crompton'' 'Type 3', rather than a NBL 'Type 2'.  The 'BoB' is a beauty, though.  I'm clearly on safer ground with steam locomotives!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 03, 2017, 08:46:41 pm
Martin, It just shows you how much I know about these new-fangled diesels!  I guessed it was a 'Birmingham 'Crompton'' 'Type 3', rather than a NBL 'Type 2'.  The 'BoB' is a beauty, though.  I'm clearly on safer ground with steam locomotives!

Best wishes.

John
Oops again. My fingers in a muddle.
Of course its a 33 not a 22.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on November 03, 2017, 08:53:45 pm
That's what retirement does to you. :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 03, 2017, 08:58:14 pm
That's what retirement does to you. :D
And only one day in.......iit can only get worse I guess.
Just poured myself a G and T - that should help. Cheers.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on November 03, 2017, 09:08:52 pm
Hi Martin,

Lovely pics as usual. Making the pic bigger and with my glasses I thought it said 'Bear's Halt'. Looked again and it still does. Need stronger glasses.

On a scarier note (that wasn't deliberate, I still think it says Bear's),  (+ off topic so sorry in advance, hope you don't mind) there is talk of our proposed move being to your fair county of Cornwall so might be asking a few questions if you don't mind. I've had to watch Poldark so I know as long as I've got a long coat, a hat and a gun I might be OK. Being a Pompey fan and having had to go to Gosport years ago for work that shouldn't be a problem  :D.

Seriously, might PM you for advice in the future if that's OK. No problemo if not.

Still loving your layout.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on November 03, 2017, 09:16:04 pm
Sorry,

That doesn't make sense. Gosport people are Pompey fans but it's very, very dangerous! Hijack over.

Sorry again, weave  :beers:

PS G and T, lovely. I like gin and bitter lemon but don't tell the rugby club!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on November 03, 2017, 09:32:17 pm
Martin, It just shows you how much I know about these new-fangled diesels!  I guessed it was a 'Birmingham 'Crompton'' 'Type 3', rather than a NBL 'Type 2'.  The 'BoB' is a beauty, though.  I'm clearly on safer ground with steam locomotives!

Best wishes.

John
Oops again. My fingers in a muddle.
Of course its a 33 not a 22.

Blimey; what a fluke - I identified a diesel correctly!

It's unlikely to happen again, though...

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 03, 2017, 09:59:19 pm
Lord and Lady Penelope are also very partial to a G&T (as am I, on holiday with my friends, it's an early evening tradition).

The North British Type 2s (Class 22) are the most common diesel locomotives in North Cornwall having replaced the 45xx and 4575s as well as the "Large Prairies" in everyday BR WR service after 1962. More occasional visitors are the Hymek Type 3s (Class 35), none being allocated to the Southwest in the early 1960s. However, in our "Alternative Cornwall" a pair of the BRCW&Co. Type 3s (Class 33) have been allocated by the SR, not least to work the "Atlantic Coast Express" in the winter post-1964 (in our "Alternative Cornwall", Bulleid Pacifics work the "ACE", in the Summer, until 1967). Class 42 "Warships" are very seldom seen in North Cornwall but "Westerns" are seen in West Cornwall on services to / from Truro and Wadebridge. In the later 1960s, a Brush Type 4 (D1662 "Isambard Kingdom Brunel") and a Cardiff English Electric Type 3 have been known to appear on specials in North Cornwall. Lastly, BR has lent a BR Type 2 diesel-electric for comparison trials with a NB Type 2 diesel-hydraulic in West Cornwall.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 04, 2017, 08:21:53 am
Hi Martin,

Lovely pics as usual. Making the pic bigger and with my glasses I thought it said 'Bear's Halt'. Looked again and it still does. Need stronger glasses.

On a scarier note (that wasn't deliberate, I still think it says Bear's),  (+ off topic so sorry in advance, hope you don't mind) there is talk of our proposed move being to your fair county of Cornwall so might be asking a few questions if you don't mind. I've had to watch Poldark so I know as long as I've got a long coat, a hat and a gun I might be OK. Being a Pompey fan and having had to go to Gosport years ago for work that shouldn't be a problem  :D.

Seriously, might PM you for advice in the future if that's OK. No problemo if not.

Still loving your layout.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Moving down West be ye?
You won’t regret it. We’ve been here 14 years now and love it. Such a wonderful place. You’ll need to get used to words like drekkly, ‘ansome, me luver and wossis etc etc.
Yes, by all means PM me. Its a big County and choosing where to live is a big decision. Plus.....we have an N Gauge group.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 04, 2017, 10:22:40 pm
Moving to Cornwall sounds excellent, Chris (Weave). Should make 'through' running easier! 8-)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 05, 2017, 07:16:10 pm
A number of Guy Fawkes Day special trains for railway enthusiasts have been run today throughout Cornwall.
First we see the Great Western Wanderer from Penzance to Newquay (via Redruth, St Agnes, Port Perran and perranporth) and return. The train headed by two CLPG maintained locomotives in GW livery (a pannier and 22xx) is seen leaving Port Perran :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-051117190854.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57776)
For Southern Enthusiasts the Withered Arm Daytripper special was run from Exeter to Truro via Wadebridge , Trepol Bay and Chacewater headed by two ex LSWR locos maintained by the CLPG (a 700 series Black Motor and a T9). The train is seen here at Trepol Bay on the way to Truro :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-051117191246.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57778)
Finally, a series of brake van shuttles operated from Truro to Penwinnick Quarry via Chacewater and the Port Perran avoiding line. The train is seen here passing Perran Beach Halt :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-051117191530.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57783)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 05, 2017, 07:47:56 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for three excellent photos. of the special trains. There has been plenty of interest for enthusiasts to enjoy.

Alas, Cant Cove's official photographer and his beautiful assistant both have 'flu so were not able to take photos. recently. Which is a pity as several special trains departed Cant Cove for various destinations. However, it is hoped that photos. can be taken on their arrival.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on November 05, 2017, 09:08:15 pm
Lovely photographs, Martin; thank you very much.

Enthusiasts for the 'Drummond look' will love the picture taken at Trepol Bay.

With all good wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on November 06, 2017, 07:45:36 am
 :greatpicturessign: thank you Martin.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on November 06, 2017, 09:28:10 am
Brilliant photo's Martin of a cracking layout that never fails to delight - looking forward to seeing you develop the new scenic section
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 06, 2017, 07:37:01 pm
I’ve been working on two smallish projects today.
A) Semaphore signals for Trepol Bay - delicate models that take time to paint and construct so it’ll be a day or so before they are completed and installed.
B) Some detail alterations to a couple of buildings on Trepol Bay harbour - most notably the Headland Brewery building. Again - pictures in a day or so.

In addition I’ve ordered some water cranes and correct style running in boatds for Trepol Bay station.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on November 06, 2017, 07:45:17 pm
I'm certain that this will be time well spent, Martin, and the results will be excellent.

I look forward to pictures in due course.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on November 07, 2017, 05:55:14 pm
Sounds good Martin, look forward to seeing the results, are you using any particular reference material for the signalling or is it something you know a bit about... I only ask as I want to have some on my layout, but while they don't need to be exactly right, would be good to know that they are relatively so for the junctions etc. that they are protecting... as you might gather, I only have a smattering of knowledge
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 07, 2017, 06:37:35 pm
Sounds good Martin, look forward to seeing the results, are you using any particular reference material for the signalling or is it something you know a bit about... I only ask as I want to have some on my layout, but while they don't need to be exactly right, would be good to know that they are relatively so for the junctions etc. that they are protecting... as you might gather, I only have a smattering of knowledge
I know a bit about signalling but I’m far from an expert.
I go by pictures in books but if it looks ok then I’m happy.
Should have signals in place to orrow I think. By the way, they are completely static. No working signalls here.
I’m sure Chris can provide you with more detailed information.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 07, 2017, 07:31:19 pm
I’m rather liking this retirement lark.
Been doing a little detailing today on Trepol Bay harbour either side of a lovely walk down to Twelveheads where we had coffee and cake al fresco.
Anyway, I’ve tidied up the Headland Brewery warehouse by adding roof vents on one side and a chimney stack at the back.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-071117192612.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57876)
The odd white bits are where I need to touch up the paint a bit plus I need to weather down the glossiness a bit.
I’m thinking of adding very thin white edging around the sign ( which was kindly supplied by Chris).
Also, I’ve added another chimney to the old warehouse. Makes a difference I think
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-071117192958.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57877)
Also worked some more on the signals which will go into place ina day or so.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on November 07, 2017, 07:40:54 pm
Brilliant - hadn't noticed the turntable before, great detailing
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 07, 2017, 07:48:05 pm
Brilliant - hadn't noticed the turntable before, great detailing
It’s been there all along. A little wagon turntable. Only way to get wagons into the tiny repair workshop.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2017, 08:07:12 pm
Many thanks for this very good photos., Martin. Such detailing work is well worth the effort. Thin white edging (I'd use plasticard) will definitely enhance the warehouse sign. The additions definitely enhance the warehouse.

The medium grey standard and the dark grey sliding door vans look like they are waiting entry to the wagon works' paint shop as they both already have an overhauled chassis with red bufferbeams and silver buffers.

The water cranes and the running-in boards (I have these at Cant Cove) will definitely enhance the station area. I'm going to try to have some LSWR pattern water cranes, like those at Wadebridge (see below) and Padstow, made available in 2MM Scale (maybe, 3D printed). At present, I have a generic metal kit watercrane for Cant Cove's loco. depot.

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/w/wadebridge/wadebridge(1960s_anoraxia)old7.jpg (http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/w/wadebridge/wadebridge(1960s_anoraxia)old7.jpg)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 07, 2017, 08:21:04 pm

The medium grey standard and the dark grey sliding door vans look like they are waiting entry to the wagon works' paint shop as they both already have an overhauled chassis with red bufferbeams and silver buffers.

Yes, there are one or two vans still awaiting painting. They’ll be done when the next batch arrives from Cant  Cove.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on November 07, 2017, 08:22:58 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for these lovely pictures.  Excellent progress with the fine detailing.

And it was good to see George again!

I'm glad you are enjoying retirement.  Al fresco coffee and cake here today would have been a particularly cold and wet experience...

All the best.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2017, 08:33:27 pm
BP / Shell tankers, looking very much like the Minitrix ones, used to be seen at the depot on the Cattewater Branch, Plymouth.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on November 07, 2017, 08:40:10 pm
I'm sure I posted here earlier but I can't see it. The pigeon must have taken the wrong turning. I was commenting on this retirement lark but I'll be damned if I can remember what else I said. The memory is not what it was. :(
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 07, 2017, 08:53:44 pm

And it was good to see George again!

I'm glad you are enjoying retirement.  Al fresco coffee and cake here today would have been a particularly cold and wet experience.

Thanks John. It was very wet here this morning but lovely this afternoon.
Two horses are used to shunt wagons on the harbour. They take it in tiurns as they are both getting on a bit. Here we see Harry enjoying his day off at the stables :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/230-071117205303.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57883)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on November 07, 2017, 11:22:43 pm
I'm sure I posted here earlier but I can't see it. The pigeon must have taken the wrong turning. I was commenting on this retirement lark but I'll be damned if I can remember what else I said. The memory is not what it was. :(

Hope not a hijack but for Brian's sanity, I think you commented on Martin's retirement on Laurence's Train Shed Project thread regarding turning compost. Amazing, I remember that but forgot the milk for SWMBO's tea tomorrow  :doh:.

I don't like tea. Yuk.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on November 08, 2017, 12:14:39 am
I'm sure I posted here earlier but I can't see it. The pigeon must have taken the wrong turning. I was commenting on this retirement lark but I'll be damned if I can remember what else I said. The memory is not what it was. :(

Hope not a hijack but for Brian's sanity, I think you commented on Martin's retirement on Laurence's Train Shed Project thread regarding turning compost. Amazing, I remember that but forgot the milk for SWMBO's tea tomorrow  :doh:.

I don't like tea. Yuk.



Cheers weave  :beers:

I don't remember turning any compost. When did I do that? Somebody help me please :worried:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on November 08, 2017, 07:54:57 am
Sorry Brian (and Martin for another mini hijack),

I'm the one going nuts. It was a post from Keith by the sea not you.

Sorry again weave  :-[
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 08, 2017, 08:14:09 am
This is getting mighty confusing.
 :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on November 08, 2017, 09:06:22 am
Hi Martin,

To clarify (although probably clear as mud). Laurence mentioned doing his compost heap on his thread. You mentioned doing yours too. Keith commented on your retirement ie lack of it. Brian then said on this thread that he'd commented on your retirement but it didn't show up and I thought that he'd done it on Laurence's thread but it wasn't him, it was Keith.

EASY  :no:

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS Sorry again. Should have said nowt.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 08, 2017, 09:14:38 am
Musical compost heaps!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on November 08, 2017, 11:43:43 am
Seems the leaves are not the only things breaking down  :uneasy: ... I am reminded of the song "decomposing composers" by Monty Python
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on November 08, 2017, 06:13:53 pm
I think I've sorted it all out now. I feel a little more composted. ;D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 08, 2017, 09:14:55 pm
I think I've sorted it all out now. I feel a little more composted. ;D

Well, I'm glad that is all sorted out, now!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 08, 2017, 09:41:11 pm
The London newspapers arrive, each weekday morning, quite late in North and West Cornwall, as they travel by overnight train in special newspaper vans loaded at Waterloo station from road vans coming onto the station platform direct from Fleet Street. The train leaves Waterloo at 01.25 and arrives at Wadebridge, behind a N Class 2-6-0, at 09.14, departing at 09.18, where it leaves a BCK (overnight passengers) and SR CCT (Newspapers) to be taken on to Trepol Bay with an additional SK added for local passengers. Meanwhile, the rest of the train continues behind the N to Penmayne. In 1960, the train is formed of a Bulleid 3L: BSK(semi)+CK+BSK(semi) set plus a Bogie Van B (News). However, in 1961, it is formed of a Bulleid BCK+SK plus a Bogie VAN B (News). Peak season, the formation is much increased to cater for block party bookings.

The papers for Cant Cove are thrown out, by the guard, onto the station platform, in a well-wrapped bundle (using a canvas bag specially provided by the statiomaster at Wadebridge and returned there each evening), as the train passes through at 09.24 (of course, if there are guests on the train travelling to Trevelver Castle, a Special Stop Order is issued). Lord Trevelver's chauffeur is waiting at Cant Cove station, each weekday morning, to collect the Castle's newspapers and bring them up for the Housekeeper to iron before her husband, the Head Butler brings them on a silver tray with a fresh pot of coffee and toast so that Lord and Lady Trevelver may enjoy them, at their leisure, after their breakfast, served at 8.30.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 09, 2017, 05:35:16 am
I'm sure Martin will know the name and history of the local ex-Fleet Air Arm pilot who takes the photographer up over Trepol Bay and Port Perran. The two WW2 Fleet Air Arm stations in Cornwall were at St Merryn and Treligga. RNAS St Merryn, HMS VULTURE, was opened in 1940 and operated as a fighter training school for aircraft carrier fighter/bombers. HMS VULTURE was used by many first and second line squadrons for flying, combat, armament and ground attack training. It was extended in 1942 to include the School of Air Combat and a new control tower was built in 1944.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on November 09, 2017, 07:31:27 am
Hi Martin,

To clarify (although probably clear as mud). Laurence mentioned doing his compost heap on his thread. You mentioned doing yours too. Keith commented on your retirement ie lack of it. Brian then said on this thread that he'd commented on your retirement but it didn't show up and I thought that he'd done it on Laurence's thread but it wasn't him, it was Keith.

EASY  :no:

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS Sorry again. Should have said nowt.

What’s this about me and compost heaps?...  :hmmm:

 :greatpicturessign: Martin.
Like Andrew, I had missed the turntable too.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 09, 2017, 05:40:14 pm
Sounds good Martin, look forward to seeing the results, are you using any particular reference material for the signalling or is it something you know a bit about... I only ask as I want to have some on my layout, but while they don't need to be exactly right, would be good to know that they are relatively so for the junctions etc. that they are protecting... as you might gather, I only have a smattering of knowledge

I know a bit about signalling but I’m far from an expert.
I go by pictures in books but if it looks ok then I’m happy.
Should have signals in place to orrow I think. By the way, they are completely static. No working signalls here.
I’m sure Chris can provide you with more detailed information.


I have studied the basics of signalling in the Steam Age, Andrew, and have a little Ian Allan book about it as well as information about WR and SR signalling. However, I'm not knowledgeable about the LMSR and LNER and ScR signalling. That said, the basics of railway signals were universal throughout BR.

Wikipedia covers the basics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_railway_signalling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_railway_signalling)

Well worth downloading, printing and studying is:
http://www.railway-technical.com/signalling/british-signalling--what.pdf (http://www.railway-technical.com/signalling/british-signalling--what.pdf)

Lastly, giving more detail, including the various pre-BR railway companies:
https://www.signalbox.org/signals.shtml (https://www.signalbox.org/signals.shtml)

I can comment, by email, on plans showing track and planned signal positions which should help to avoid any basic mistakes. 8-)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 09, 2017, 07:43:05 pm
No photos today as the civil engineer has taken complete posession of all tracks into and out of Trepol Bay station with some VERY heavy machinery. Hence no trains can run.
This is to enable new signal posts to be securely planted into the ground.
(Well at least to let the glue dry overnight :D).
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 09, 2017, 08:47:01 pm
Thanks for the update, Martin. I look forward to the photos. after the signal engineers have completed their work and the signalling has been tested and cleared for use the following day.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 09, 2017, 08:52:15 pm
Thanks for the update, Martin. I look forward to the photos. after the signal engineers have completed their work and the signalling has been tested and cleared for use the following day.
It’ll be a two day job to get all signals in place I believe.
Plans are also afoot for new water columns and station running in boards at Trepol Bay. Unfortunately engineers are still awaiting arrival of the items from Messrs P&D Marsh.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 09, 2017, 09:05:51 pm
Thanks, Martin. Cant Cove uses the same station running-in boards but one needs to be replaced as I installed it and the sign back to front! However, I do have a replacement prepainted in grey ready for final painting in BR SR Green if I cannot carefully take the sign off the board and mount it correctly. I think the water cranes I have also came from the same source.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 10, 2017, 04:28:10 pm
Additional gorse bushes have appeared today at the rear of Trepol Bay station.
Plus...I’ ve been experimenting with trees and bushes including having a bash at a flowering cherry tree. We’ll see how that looks later (or maybe we won’t if it looks bad).
And.....the final two signals are now in place at Trepol Bay. Just waiting for the concrete fo dry around the bases!
Unfortunately the platform gang are still awaiting the overdue materials from Messrs P&D Marsh.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 10, 2017, 06:13:26 pm
Thanks, Martin. Looking forward to seeing the successful results.

When I have an opportunity, I'll photograph the replacement 'bus service (3 BR livery single deckers) and BR lorries from Cant Cove to Trepol Bay. I presume that Port Perran has replacement 'buses running from Truro whilst the lines are closed?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 10, 2017, 06:29:12 pm
Yes. Replacement buses are running. 
Actually from wadebridge and Cant Cove to Newquay. Currently all through servces from Truro to Wadebridge (and beyond) are terminating at Truro.
Goods and freight however are being transported by lorry from Wadebridge to Port Perran.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 10, 2017, 07:46:28 pm
Short running session this evening (avoiding Trepol Bay). Now, I’m always most particular about rail joints making sure they are as spot n as possible but had several derailments one after the other this evening.
On closer examination a joint had popped out. Luckily on the edge of the fiddle yard so no ballast involved - just a couple of screws. We’ve just turned on the storage heater inthe train room and the offending joint is the closest one to the heater. I guess the track has expanded just enough to pop the joint.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on November 10, 2017, 10:47:57 pm
 :hellosign: Thanks for the updates Martin, looking forward to photos of the signals presently. Hope you have no more joints popping  :D
     Where is TwelveHeads please?, rings a bell but can`t place it, thanks
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 11, 2017, 08:11:17 am
:hellosign: Thanks for the updates Martin, looking forward to photos of the signals presently. Hope you have no more joints popping  :D
     Where is TwelveHeads please?, rings a bell but can`t place it, thanks
      regards Derek.
Twelveheads is about 3  iles from Carharrack along the Poldice Valley heading towards Devoran, a tiny little hamlet. Worth a visit if you like coffee and cake though  but make it a nice day as it’s outside seating only.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 11, 2017, 10:36:18 am
BR (W)  ontrol Office at Truro are confidently predicting that the tracks through Trepol Bay station will be re-opened this evening at 6.00 pm.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 11, 2017, 11:02:03 am
This time of year having been carefully chosen for such major engineering work, everyone is confident that the major disruption will not result in any substantial loss of passenger or goods traffic.

The "Chelsea Girls" working out of the "Station Hotel", Trepol Bay and "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove, have been contracted by the Association for the Promotion of Cornwall's Railways to provide help and free light refreshments for passengers using the replacement 'bus services. Food and drink is supplied by: the Castle Brewery, Castle Estates, Headland Brewery, Messrs Prisk & Jones (Fruit & Vegetable Wholesalers), Trepol Bay, and the North Cornwall Pasty Co. with catering organised by a joint team from the "Station Hotel", Trepol Bay, and "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove.

Off-season, passengers are scarce, anyway, on the CIWL Pullman "Star of the West" / 'L'etoile de l'Ouest', Cornwall - Britanny (via the West Porthsea Quay - Regleun train ferry) service which, normally, terminates / begins at Penmayne only calling at Wadebridge, Newquay, and Truro (unless a Special Stop Order has been made, in advance) before arrival at West Porthsea. During the closure,  the train will start / terminate at Truro. Marielle, the SW England CIWL representative, has booked a small luxury road vehicle supplied by "Seagull Coaches" of Penmayne, which will call at any BR station where a passenger for the train has requested to be picked up or set-down (very few in mid-October). One of the "Chelsea Girls" will be on board with a large picnic hamper.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on November 11, 2017, 11:29:11 am
Thank you, Chris

If only, if only, the splendid 'Chelsea Gels' provided such a service to those of us suffering a motor omnibus instead of a train from Stirling to Polmont (or Croy - can be quicker but the notion of speed on these journeys is relative) for Edinburgh.  It's all in a good cause, though: electrification.

Best Wishes.

John

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on November 11, 2017, 12:14:48 pm
Hi Martin and Chris (IP).

I do like a map in my head for where trains are going/have come from + useful info for future timetables.

 So, as I have a terrible memory, am I right in thinking, after Chris's post above re the CIWL train and looking at a map of Cornwall, that Penmayne/Cant Cove is North East of Wadebridge, Port perran/Trepol bay is South West of Wadebridge and that Porthsea Quay would be roughly where Falmouth is?

Again sorry for my lack of memory but have pen and paper ready as starting a proper written file for where everything is, who everyone is, PO wagon colours etc.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 11, 2017, 02:05:07 pm
Very briefly, Penmayne is located across the River Camel from Padstow. Thanks to the Trevelver family and the early coming of the (originally broad gauge) railway from Bodmin Road to Wadebridge then Cant Cove and, finally, Penmayne, Penmayne grew to be a major resort (and minor port) whilst Padstow did not. Cant Cove is on the same side of the river and closer to Wadebridge. It is a very small settlement around the station but serves Trevelver Castle and some local farms. Cant Cove is situated on the ancient Wadebridge-Penmayne road. Trepol Bay is southwest of Wadebridge and, of course, on the coast. Further south is Newquay then Port Perran followed by, yet further south and inland, Truro.

All the above places are linked by railways which were either built (but later than in our 'Alternative Cornwall'), planned but not built or, perhaps could have been (Wadebridge to Penmayne via Cant Cove). BR SR runs from Penmayne to Wadebridge and Trepol Bay (as well as from Wadebridge to the SR mainline). BR WR runs from Bodmin Road to Wadebridge and Penmayne (running powers inherited from the GWR to Penmayne) and Truro-Port Perran-Newquay-Wadebridge with various branches and the WR mainline.

There is an increasing degree of co-ordination between the two region's local operations with some through running, especially in peak season, between Penmayne and Truro but, typically, Wadebridge is the main timetabled interchange station for passenger and some goods services. To a lesser extent, being on the original regional boundary, also Trepol Bay, although increasingly trains run beyond in both directions.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 11, 2017, 02:11:10 pm
Hi  Chris (W)
I’ll reply re Port Perran and Trepol Bay and I’ll let the other Chris elaborate on his area and Porthsea Quay.
Port Perran is very much an ex GW station situated on the now closed line from Chacewater (just West of Truro) to Newquay. Port Perran is (in my alternative map) situated between what was St Agnes and Goonhavern stations. The line carries on from Port Perran to Goonhavern, shepherds, Mitchell & Newlyn and Quintrell Downs to Newquay.
In our alternative history a line was constructed onwards from Quintrell Downs to Wadebridge. Effectively the bit West from Wadebridge to Trepol Bay (which is near Rumford if you have a map)  was LSWR with Trepol Bay being the westward limit of the old withered arm. The line from Quintrell Downs to Trepol Bay running West to East was a GW extension from Newquay passing through St Columb Minor, St Mawgan and St Eval before reaching Trepol Bay.
Since 1948 the whole line from Truro to Wadebridge (passing through Port Perran and Trepol Bay) has been run as a joint (WR and SR) venture although historically the bit from Truro to Port Perran sees largely WR locos and the line from Trepol Bay to Wadebridge sees largely SR locos. The section between Port Perran and Trepol Bay sees a real mix.
That’s probably as clear as mud but hope it helps.
Martin
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 11, 2017, 02:14:14 pm
It seems both Chris (P) and I replied simultaneously.
Chris (P) is Porthsea somewhere twixt Falmouth and Truri (Ish)?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 11, 2017, 02:26:37 pm
Thanks, Martin, for adding all the details which I (purposely) omitted about lies beyond Wadebridge. I do have the actual dates and railway company names for the lines in North and Central Cornwall but will omit them, here. The key thing to note is that, because the railways arrived earlier, economic development took root earlier, too, thus helping the railways to survive Dr. Beeching. Penmayne grew to rival Newquay and, hence, has more long-distance inter-regional summer services compared with Padstow (which did not, unlike Newquay).

The Cornish PO liveries include:
light blue "Castle Estates" , Trevelver Castle, Cant Cove
dark blue "Castle Brewery" Trevelver Castle, Cant Cove
satin orange "North Cornwall Pasty Co.", Penmayne
black and gold "Headland Brewery, Port Perran
dark orange (?), James & Son Ltd, Granite Merchants, Port Perran
dark green, Messrs Prisk & Jones (Fruit & Vegetable Wholesalers), Trepol Bay
red (?), timber merchant's and sawmill company at Port Perran

From Somerset:
apple green "Sam's Cider"
purple-red "Creech Brewery"
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 11, 2017, 02:31:23 pm
West Porthsea is, according a recent post of Derek's, "in South West Cornwall imagined close to the old Marazion Station". Marazion is situated on the shore of Mount's Bay, 2 miles east of Penzance and 1 mile east of Long Rock, so some way (30 plus miles) beyond Truro on the WR mainline.

Dr. Beeching made it very clear to both BR WR and BR SR that "united you stand, divided you fall" and without much closer co-ordination and removal of needless duplication the network of lines in Cornwall was doomed unless it could turn a profit. Hence the foundation of the Association for the Promotion of Cornwall's Railways and a unique (and unpublicised outside the Southwest) level of involvement by the local private sector and not-for-profit organisations to secure the railways' future plus a high degree of dieselisation of services off-season. (Sylvia and Eli never forgot a trip, in the TARDIS, to a traumatic trackless Wadebridge station in an alternative 1960s timeline.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 11, 2017, 03:11:59 pm
Excellent, as I have an imagined triangle neat Chacewater, trains can run direct from Port Perran to West Porthsea without having to reverse at Truro.
Hence, direct trains from Wadebridge (and thus Penmayne and even Exeter) to West Portsea (and Penzance’) are possible.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on November 11, 2017, 03:27:02 pm
Hi again Martin and Chris (IP),

Thanks for the info. I'll have to read it again so I can take it all in. Hope you don't mind but found a rail map but because the printer isn't working I thought I could post here. I know you've got some fictional railways as well so be prepared for more questions if that's OK......

http://www.spellerweb.net/rhindex/UKRH/GreatWestern/Broadgauge/Cornwallmap.jpg (http://www.spellerweb.net/rhindex/UKRH/GreatWestern/Broadgauge/Cornwallmap.jpg)

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 11, 2017, 03:31:28 pm
Thats fine. Shame it jusr misses out the bit that would be Cant Cove and Penmayne.
However, on your map, Port Perran replaces Perranporth.
Then imagine a line from Quintrell Downs Platform to Wadebridge roughly following the coast and Trepol Bay will be on that line (about 4 miles West of Wadebridge).
Porthsea isvery neat Marazion.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on November 11, 2017, 03:33:06 pm
Excellent, as I have an imagined triangle neat Chacewater, trains can run direct from Port Perran to West Porthsea without having to reverse at Truro.
Hence, direct trains from Wadebridge (and thus Penmayne and even Exeter) to West Portsea (and Penzance’) are possible.


So would that mean now that the CIWL doesn't stop at Truro or it does (and has to reverse) and your other trains can go direct. Sorry for complicating everything considering I'm on the other side of the Channel.

Just an interfering Breton.

Sante, plus cidre  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on November 11, 2017, 03:37:19 pm
Thats fine. Shame it jusr misses out the bit that would be Cant Cove and Penmayne.
However, on your map, Port Perran replaces Perranporth.
Then imagine a line from Quintrell Downs Platform to Wadebridge roughly following the coast and Trepol Bay will be on that line (about 4 miles West of Wadebridge).
Porthsea isvery neat Marazion.

Excellent. That's what I thought re the fictional line but I find it so much easier to see a map.

Cheers yet again, weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 11, 2017, 03:38:14 pm
In effect the CIWL wouldn’t need to stop at Truro.
However, as Truro is an important City, the CIWL does indeed go via Truro where it changes locos and direction.
Hope that’s correct Chris (P)?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 11, 2017, 03:42:45 pm
There is an old incomplete map, Chris (Weave) which I need to update as Port Perran is marked incorrectly. I hope to update it before Christmas.

As I understand it, Martin, the plan is that many trains (both passenger and goods) combine / split portions at West Porthsea station, with one portion going to / from West Porthsea Quay for the train ferry and cargo ships, some trains travelling direct along the WR mainline to Truro and beyond but others traveling via Chacewater (about 3 miles east of Redruth; about 6 miles west of Truro), to Port Perran, Newquay, Trepol Bay, Wadebridge and Penmayne (some calling at Cant Cove).

Yes, Martin, it would make sense for some trains, including the CIWL "Pullman" service (which needs the passengers to be economic) to serve Truro before heading off the WR mainline. So changing locos. and reversing direction would make sense. Normally, SR locos. would not work beyond Truro. Through diesel unit services [BR used single units, often working in pairs on the Newquay branches] would, of course, only require the driver to change cabs but would not be "Pullman" services.


Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 11, 2017, 04:32:40 pm
Two hours early, the line through Trepol Bay is now re-opened.
Signals in place. They are not operationally correct but for me, they look ok and liven the scene a little.
The Standard 4 has just received the right away :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/230-111117162610.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58002)
In addition to the signals, I have added more vegetation and saplings to the old platform area at the rear of the station. I hope this helps to bring the layout and the backboard together a bit more. In addition (off scene), the old chapel building painted onto the backboard behind Trepol Bay station is undergoing a major facelift (photos to come in a day or so).
And.....another picture of the harbour buildings showing the new roof vents on one half of the Brewery building and the new chimney :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/230-111117163158.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58005)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on November 11, 2017, 06:11:06 pm
A great improvement and the roof looks excellent. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on November 11, 2017, 08:44:58 pm
Thank you very much, gentlemen.  The geography lesson was jolly helpful.  Somehow, I had in my head that Penmayne was on the other (west) side of the Camel and I hadn't realised that Newquay was between Port Perran and Trepol Bay. 

This exchange of posts (if that is the correct term) has been just what I needed.

With all good wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 11, 2017, 08:57:45 pm
The vegetation and saplings to the old platform area at the rear of the station are an excellent addition, Martin; as are the new roof vents on one half of the Brewery building and the new chimney. Signals always add something to a model railway and I really must add some to Cant Cove. (I will also use the lattice frame type kits as well as making some older wooden post type ones as I don't have the skills to make the typical SR rail-built ones.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 11, 2017, 10:39:11 pm
Thank you very much, gentlemen.  The geography lesson was jolly helpful.  Somehow, I had in my head that Penmayne was on the other (west) side of the Camel and I hadn't realised that Newquay was between Port Perran and Trepol Bay. 

This exchange of posts (if that is the correct term) has been just what I needed.

With all good wishes.

John

My pleasure, John, for being able to make a contribution to the back story overview. Once I have time to update the map, all will be clearer. Thanks to Martin, too, for filling in all the key details that I really was not sure of, beyond Wadebridge, and being one of the most important inspirations for all of this.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on November 11, 2017, 11:23:38 pm
 :hellosign: Thanks for the   :greatpicturessign: your signals look spot on Martin.
     Also interestingly just posted through running ideas on my planning thread & yours & Chris (IP) ideas sound good to me, now Chris (Weave) & I need to sort out the cross channel link.
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 12, 2017, 09:15:47 am
Thank you very much, gentlemen.  The geography lesson was jolly helpful.  Somehow, I had in my head that Penmayne was on the other (west) side of the Camel and I hadn't realised that Newquay was between Port Perran and Trepol Bay. 

This exchange of posts (if that is the correct term) has been just what I needed.

With all good wishes.

John
Just to clarify. I imagine a rather complicated series of junctions at Quintrell Downs (south of Newquay)which enables the following:
A) trains can run from Port Perran to Wadebridge without going into Newquay.
B) trains can go from Port Perran into Newquay.
C) trains can run into Newquay from Wadebridge.
D) trains can access Par from both Port Perran and Wadebridge. A useful goods traffic link.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 12, 2017, 09:37:46 am
Thanks, Martin. I know we came up with names for at least some of these junctions using your local knowledge a while ago and some of them are marked on the map I never completed.

All of these routings are good and will add to the train running possibilities for everyone. If we imagine investment in Centralised Traffic Control (proposed by the Southern Railway in North Devon but never implemented, probably because of the up-front expense; begun by the WR on the Central Wales line but abandoned by the LMR; judicious rationalisation of operations and infrastructure between and by BR SR and WR, plus flexible and part-time railway staff employment rather than redundancies); track relaying by the WR in 1963 with new 109lb/yd flat bottom rail on pre-stressed concrete sleepers [this really happened in North Cornwall], completed in 1964; and a generally more prosperous regional economy supported by co-ordinated promotional and marketing activities, plus local authority support, such a network could have survived Beeching and prospered.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 12, 2017, 07:41:33 pm
The usual Sunday evening running session has seen one of my favourites (the T9) having a spin. Here she is on a short Truro to Wadebridge local which originated at Truro behind an ex GW small prarie. The train travelled via Chacewater to Port Perran where the T9 took over (having earlier worked in on a local from Wadebridge). The train continued via Goonhavern and Quintrell Downs North and South Junctions then to St Eval before passing through Trepol Bay en route to Porthcothan Road and finally Wadebridge.
The train has only two stops at Chacewater and Port Perran - hence running non stop through Trepol Bay :
https://youtu.be/6hlRE76KYpU
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on November 12, 2017, 07:59:34 pm
Thank you very much for that lovely film, Martin.  The 'T9' is a splendid locomotive with these big driving wheels turning so effortlessly.  Absolutely perfect running as well.  An inspiration for us 12V DC with Union Mills locomotives people.

I'm now away to give my 'T9' a run.  It's been LNER and GWR hereabouts for the past few days.

All best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on November 12, 2017, 08:44:34 pm
A lovely video. :thumbsup:
I'm getting confused :confused1: Thank goodness I'm a bit further north, and east. Chris, please get your map finished. I don't know Cornwall in real life let alone the alternative. :dunce:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on November 12, 2017, 09:39:54 pm
Hi Martin,

Thanks for the vid. I've managed to print out the map I showed on here and the one I posted on Derek's thread so it's great to understand where the trains are going as I'm reading.

Obviously the fictional line will need filling in at some point.

Brian, here's the rail map I posted on Derek's thread...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/GWR_map_Cornwall.jpg

If I'm correct the fictional line runs along the North Coast from Quirrel Downs (just above Newquay) and round to Wadebridge. Chris (IP)'s Penmayne and Cant Cove are on another line on the Northern side of the river from Padstow.

Hope that's right.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 12, 2017, 09:48:43 pm
Thank you, Martin, for this very nice video. Yet another reminder that I really must contact Union Mills to see if I can order at least one T9 and a 'Black Motor'. Alas, it looks like New Year 2018, at the earliest, assuming any will be available and allowing for DCC-fitting. However, I hope there will be other new locos. at Cant Cove before then.

Alas, it will be a while before I have time to complete the map update. (I did resume work on it over the Summer . . .)

The full history can be read, here: The 'Back Story' for Cant Cove and Penmayne but also featuring associated lines. (It needs updating as Weaver Cove has been deleted.)

"Following the success, the previous year, of the North Cornwall Railway (NCR, an ally of the LSWR) obtaining its authorising Act of Parliament, in 1883 a Parliamentary Bill, supported by the Trevelvers and their allies, was prepared to authorise the North Cornwall Extension Railway in the form of a mainly single track line southwards from Wadebridge to Truro; three ‘Railways’ were proposed. No.1 was to run from a junction at Wadebridge station via St. Issey, St. Eval (bypassing Trepol Bay), and Mawgan to a new station at the increasingly popular resort of Newquay. No.2 from Newquay to a terminus south of Truro city, with a spur at Wadebridge for direct running to Newquay from Penmayne. Railway No.3 was to be a spur from the north of Truro to the existing GWR line and station. Nos.2 and 3, together, formed a line from Wadebridge, around the south side of Truro to Penwithers Junction. The Bill included running powers for the North Cornwall Extension Railway from Truro over the GWR to Falmouth and Penzance as well as the Port Perran loop off the GWR’s Newquay to Chacewater line, as Port Perran had developed into a very popular tourist resort." [Is this still correct, Martin, please?]

"Access for the LSWR from Newquay to Truro was amended to running powers over the GWR as it made far more economic sense than building the planned line, after all the GWR already had 3 ways of reaching Newquay including via Chacewater.

As part of the revised NCER (the North Cornwall Extension Railway from Wadebridge to Newquay), the LSWR paid for the construction of a chord from Quintrell Downs South Junction to Quintrell Downs North Junction, outside Newquay, to allow through trains from Wadebridge to Truro (via the GWR’s Chacewater route) without trains having to reverse or run round at Newquay station. This was, of course, very helpful for freight but also passenger traffic as it allowed trains from the growing coastal resort of Port Perran to run through to the Wadebridge area, and vice versa."
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on November 12, 2017, 11:18:32 pm
The usual Sunday evening running session has seen one of my favourites (the T9) having a spin. Here she is on a short Truro to Wadebridge local which originated at Truro behind an ex GW small prarie. The train travelled via Chacewater to Port Perran where the T9 took over (having earlier worked in on a local from Wadebridge). The train continued via Goonhavern and Quintrell Downs North and South Junctions then to St Eval before passing through Trepol Bay en route to Porthcothan Road and finally Wadebridge.
The train has only two stops at Chacewater and Port Perran - hence running non stop through Trepol Bay :
https://youtu.be/6hlRE76KYpU

:hellosign: Many thanks for the super video
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 13, 2017, 06:45:03 pm
In an attempt to clarify “our” map of Cornish railways, please see the attached which, hopefully clarifies the positions of Cant  cove, penmayne, West Porthsea, Trepol Bay and Port Perran.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/230-131117184453.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58092)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 13, 2017, 07:10:02 pm
New carriages make their way to North and West Cornwall from time to time, having been made redundant further East. Today this Mk1 Corridor Brake Composite (BCK) arrived via Triro from where it is being worked up to Trepol Bay and on to Wadebridge for eventual use on the CIWL Pullman Train.
Not exactly a testing load for the D65xx seen taking the Port Perran avoiding line towards North Cornwall.
The premises of the Port Perran Timber Merchants lie in the background with one of the new red liveried (but not yet fully comissioned) wagons standing proudly in the siding awaiting a trial run :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/230-131117190918.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58093)
Many thanks to Chris (P) for the carriage.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 13, 2017, 07:26:43 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent photo. Unfortunately, the Wadebridge Yardmaster (his BR title is Yard Manager) but everyone agrees he is a true Master, has taken the Monday off to go fishing so wasn't able to brief the local newspaper reporter.

Far from being redundant, BCK S21275 is one of the very last BR Standard BCKs built and has the Yellow cantrail stripe over the First Class Section, metal-framed windows (most had them painted green), the circular BR coaching stock crest on its sides and the smooth-riding Commonwealth bogies fitted to this batch (S21263 - S21275 were the last SR Mark I BCKs, built in 1964). Waterloo was determined to provide the best (even if built at Derby Works) coach for accompanying the CIWL coaches. These latest BR BCKs provide seats for twelve first-class and 32 second-class ticket holders. This includes first-class smoking, first-class non-smoking, second-class smoking, second class non-smoking, luggage space, lavatories and a guard, all within a single vehicle.

Thanks for the map which makes locations much easier to comprehend. Eventually, I will finish mine with all the junction names.

The red van looks really good. The final batch of prepainted goods stock will leave this week.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on November 13, 2017, 07:51:10 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for the lovely photograph of the 'Crompton' with Mk I carriage.  Some nice Ayrshire cattle as well, I think.  They are much rarer nowadays, but I remember them well when I was a boy (in Ayrshire).  The photograph certainly has a convincing mid-'sixties look.

Thank you very much for the map which is a real boon.  The new junction arrangements at Chasewater will be very helpful for through running.  And, as for Padstow; Rick Stein might have to find somewhere else...

All the very best.

John 
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on November 13, 2017, 08:43:13 pm
Thank you for the map. I shall print it out and refer to it when reading these posts.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on November 13, 2017, 08:48:28 pm
Hi Martin,

Ditto what Mito says but how do I print from the Forum please?

Thanks Chris (weave) aged 4.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 13, 2017, 08:51:27 pm
Hi Martin,

Ditto what Mito says but how do I print from the Forum please?

Thanks Chris (weave) aged 4.
What device are you viewing us with  little Chris?
Anyway, a screen dump on a PC should work or if it’s a tablet then take a screen photo. Sorry, I don’t know the technical terms but it does work.
Hmmm.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on November 13, 2017, 09:11:23 pm
Chris, click on the map to open it in the gallery. Right click on the image and choose "save as" to save it to where ever you want. If you have problems send me a PM with your email address and I'll send you a copy.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 13, 2017, 09:43:52 pm
Many thanks for the map.  I have fond memories of a holiday in Perranporth as a child (mid 1960s) when we stayed just a short walk from what had been Perranporth Beach Halt.  Closed by then, but a fascinating concrete structure amidst the weeds accessed through a kissing gate if my memory serves.  Wonderful area.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on November 13, 2017, 10:14:22 pm
Hello Mr.Martin and Mr. Brian,

Thank you. I've got the printed map now  :claphappy: although there looks like a big shadowy man at the bottom of the page about to destroy Plymouth  :worried:.

Heigh ho, he's a Bristol City fan, I'm a Pompey fan and we've all been at it for years! No worries  :).

Cheers guys, will put in my new 'Cornwall Layouts Memory Bank' folder with the other maps and list of PO liveries etc.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on November 13, 2017, 10:25:23 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks for the excellent map for clarity. & :greatpicturessign:
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 15, 2017, 04:50:56 pm
Hello Mr.Martin and Mr. Brian,

Thank you. I've got the printed map now  :claphappy: although there looks like a big shadowy man at the bottom of the page about to destroy Plymouth  :worried:.

Heigh ho, he's a Bristol City fan, I'm a Pompey fan and we've all been at it for years! No worries  :).

Cheers guys, will put in my new 'Cornwall Layouts Memory Bank' folder with the other maps and list of PO liveries etc.

Cheers weave  :beers:
We’ve already destroyed Plymouth this season in the Carabo (whatever that is) Cup - 5 nil!
Roll on Manchester United next.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 17, 2017, 07:51:52 pm
There are going to be headaches aplenty throughout the country judging by the amount of Sam’s Cider on the move.....
A black Dean Goods takes the station avoiding line at Port Perran heading westwards towards Blackwater Junction and on to Penzance. Maybe a good night will be had in the Admiral Benbow later!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/230-171117194734.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58258)
The CLPG workshops in the background have been busy painting the wagon in the red livery of Port Perran Timber merchants.  The CLPG stores van looks resplendent in its Prussian Blue livery.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on November 17, 2017, 07:55:58 pm
I spy the Tardis again!  And the CLPG workshops look awfully like my goods shed.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 17, 2017, 08:00:35 pm
I spy the Tardis again!  And the CLPG workshops look awfully like my goods shed.
Aha. Got you. Admittedly it looks like the tardis but is actually a lineside hut I’m afraid.
And yes, the CLPG workshop is indeed a former goods shed.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on November 17, 2017, 08:39:19 pm
There are going to be headaches aplenty throughout the country judging by the amount of Sam’s Cider on the move.....
A black Dean Goods takes the station avoiding line at Port Perran heading westwards towards Blackwater Junction and on to Penzance. Maybe a good night will be had in the Admiral Benbow later!

The CLPG workshops in the background have been busy painting the wagon in the red livery of Port Perran Timber merchants.  The CLPG stores van looks resplendent in its Prussian Blue livery.

Extra shifts are being worked to keep up with demand. Internal discussions are being held as whether to inquire about importing French cider apples next year. Cider demand is on the increase and Sam's Cider would like to aument its range of ciders. Early days yet.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 17, 2017, 08:49:43 pm
There are going to be headaches aplenty throughout the country judging by the amount of Sam’s Cider on the move.....
A black Dean Goods takes the station avoiding line at Port Perran heading westwards towards Blackwater Junction and on to Penzance. Maybe a good night will be had in the Admiral Benbow later!

The CLPG workshops in the background have been busy painting the wagon in the red livery of Port Perran Timber merchants.  The CLPG stores van looks resplendent in its Prussian Blue livery.


Extra shifts are being worked to keep up with demand. Internal discussions are being held as whether to inquire about importing French cider apples next year. Cider demand is on the increase and Sam's Cider would like to aument its range of ciders. Early days yet.
David Penworthy of Redbow Farm near Trepol Bay has the largest acreage of  Colloggett Pippin apples in West Cornwall. Normally grown in the Tamar Valley, David has discovered that the trees do well in the rich soils on his farm. The pippins are well known for their sweetness and suitability for cider.
It is rumoured thar David is in discussion with the head brewer at Sam’s Cider with a view to supplying apples which could be transported out of Cornwall in specially cleaned cattle wagons.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on November 17, 2017, 08:59:41 pm
That was a well kept secret! Let's hope that discussions are fruitful. :)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 17, 2017, 09:02:52 pm
That was a well kept secret! Let's hope that discussions are fruitful. :)
They’ll no doubt get down to the core business very soon.
Hopefully no one takes the pip  :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 17, 2017, 09:07:07 pm
Bulmer's of Hereford used specially cleaned coal hopper wagons to transport cider apples, every autumn. I think specially cleaned mineral wagons would do the job.

Head cidermaker?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on November 17, 2017, 09:39:14 pm
I think we'll call the head cidermaker Fred Haggett.
From a list of Somerset names.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: trkilliman on November 17, 2017, 09:49:22 pm
That was a well kept secret! Let's hope that discussions are fruitful. :)
They’ll no doubt get down to the core business very soon.
Hopefully no one takes the pip  :D

As long as they don't russet through...pressing times maybe?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on November 18, 2017, 01:35:09 am
There are going to be headaches aplenty throughout the country judging by the amount of Sam’s Cider on the move.....
A black Dean Goods takes the station avoiding line at Port Perran heading westwards towards Blackwater Junction and on to Penzance. Maybe a good night will be had in the Admiral Benbow later!

The CLPG workshops in the background have been busy painting the wagon in the red livery of Port Perran Timber merchants.  The CLPG stores van looks resplendent in its Prussian Blue livery.


Extra shifts are being worked to keep up with demand. Internal discussions are being held as whether to inquire about importing French cider apples next year. Cider demand is on the increase and Sam's Cider would like to aument its range of ciders. Early days yet.


I'm sure the 'Compagnie Internationale des Well-Lashed' can accommodate some sort of export arrangement  :D. (That's if you meant me).

 We do like our cooperatives over here and are always willing to help although we're keeping an eye on our Cornish friends who sound like they might be muscling in on any potential future business transactions  :hmmm:.

Found this from Bulmers (1957)...

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/cider-apples-being-unloaded-from-railway-wagons-at-bulmers-factory-picture-id90748439 (http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/cider-apples-being-unloaded-from-railway-wagons-at-bulmers-factory-picture-id90748439)

Cheers and Sante,

Weave  :beers:.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on November 18, 2017, 06:36:38 am
That's a lot of apples = that's a lot of cider  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 18, 2017, 09:20:54 am
There are going to be headaches aplenty throughout the country judging by the amount of Sam’s Cider on the move.....
A black Dean Goods takes the station avoiding line at Port Perran heading westwards towards Blackwater Junction and on to Penzance. Maybe a good night will be had in the "Admiral Benbow" later!
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/230-171117194734.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58258[/url])
The CLPG workshops in the background have been busy painting the wagon in the red livery of Port Perran Timber merchants.  The CLPG stores van looks resplendent in its Prussian Blue livery.


Thanks for another excellent photo., Martin. Good to see that the spraypainted "Sam's Cider" pallet van matches the handpainted green of the SWB goods vehicles. The "Tarpaulin" LWB wagon looks very good in the red livery of the Port Perran Timber merchants, as does the CLPG stores van in its Prussian Blue livery. I look forward to those appearing at Cant Cove, before Christmas.

On the subject of cider apples, one of the reasons for painting some 5-plank SWB wagons in the apple-green livery was for transporting cider apples and I'm planning to respray some plastic Peco ballast wagonloads dark green to represent cider apples. However, as they would not be a uniform colour, I would have to spot paint lighter green and red, too? For economic reasons, "Sam's Cider" would not have enough of its own goods stock to transport the annual autumn cider apple harvest, so BR Brown 5-plank wagons, like the ones shown in the photo. which Chris (Weave) found, would also be used. Later, in the late 1960s and early 1970s, steel-bodied coal hopper wagons would be used.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 19, 2017, 07:30:35 pm

I’ve Been  tidying up Trepol Bay ready for Hayle Christmas show in a couple of weeks.
So....a small running session this evening to see how things are looking.
We have a pannier and autocoach held at signals on Penwinnick girder bridge waiting for an N Mogul heading through Trepol Bay towards Wadebridge  with an empty stock working.
https://youtu.be/1-zT01XhOmo
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 19, 2017, 08:16:54 pm
Thanks for the nice video, Martin. Always good to see some trains running.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on November 19, 2017, 08:35:25 pm
Many thanks for another super film, Martin.  You have managed to achieve that elusive thing for a model railway - a genuine sense of place.  Port Perran and Trepol Bay are, to my mind anyway, in the tradition of 'Sherwood Section', 'Madder Valley', 'Craigshire' and 'Tregarrick' in that one becomes immersed in an imaginary world.  Much as I admire layouts from the other approaches to the hobby, these are certainly my kind of model railways.

I hope you have a good time in Hayle, when it comes.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 19, 2017, 08:55:25 pm
Both layouts are truly inspirational, John. I fully agree about their 'sense of place'.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: JohnN on November 19, 2017, 09:17:02 pm
A lovely layout. I'm especially loving the harbour scene.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 19, 2017, 09:18:04 pm
Thank you John and Chris.
What I set out to achieve was in no way absolute perfection but merely to create a feel for the type of scene evident in North and West Cornwall in the late 50s/early 60s (ish). I wanted untidy, messy and lived in rather than  prototypically correct and unrealistically neat and orderly.
There are many, many mistakes and blemishes (and my modelling skills are far from great) but I wanted to create a make believe railway that has at least some semblance of reality as well.
And, be fun to operate, run and create stories around.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 19, 2017, 09:21:51 pm
A lovely layout. I'm especially loving the harbour scene.  :thumbsup:

I agree, John, Terpol Bay Harbour and especially the harbour walls, is a masterpiece. The stone walls look incredibly lifelike.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on November 19, 2017, 10:18:34 pm
Thank you John and Chris.
What I set out to achieve was in no way absolute perfection but merely to create a feel for the type of scene evident in North and West Cornwall in the late 50s/early 60s (ish). I wanted untidy, messy and lived in rather than  prototypically correct and unrealistically neat and orderly.
There are many, many mistakes and blemishes (and my modelling skills are far from great) but I wanted to create a make believe railway that has at least some semblance of reality as well.
And, be fun to operate, run and create stories around.


:hellosign: Many thanks for the video Martin, your layout is a masterpiece of minature engineering, looking superb. If work allows will see you at Hayle show :admiration:
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 19, 2017, 10:26:09 pm
I also wish you all success at the Hayle Show, Martin, and hope that Derek and you can meet up. Alas, I will not be able to join you but will be thinking of you.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 20, 2017, 01:23:22 pm
Thank you John and Chris.
What I set out to achieve was in no way absolute perfection but merely to create a feel for the type of scene evident in North and West Cornwall in the late 50s/early 60s (ish). I wanted untidy, messy and lived in rather than  prototypically correct and unrealistically neat and orderly.
There are many, many mistakes and blemishes (and my modelling skills are far from great) but I wanted to create a make believe railway that has at least some semblance of reality as well.
And, be fun to operate, run and create stories around.


:hellosign: Many thanks for the video Martin, your layout is a masterpiece of minature engineering, looking superb. If work allows will see you at Hayle show :admiration:
      regards Derek.
I look forward to seeing you there Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 22, 2017, 03:01:48 pm
The contract between the Trepol Bay Harbour Trust and Messrs J&W Stuart of Musselburgh for the supply of rope and nets has now been signed after a trial run a few weeks ago.
Indeed the first wagonload of material has just arrived on Trepol Bay harbour:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/230-221117150106.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58437)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on November 22, 2017, 04:12:23 pm
Great work Martin. Your objectives achieved I think.  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on November 22, 2017, 06:17:34 pm
Absolutely splendid!

Great to see local (to me) industries are doing their bit for the national economy in this exciting new decade of the nineteen-sixties.  Perhaps the Trepol Bay Harbour Trust will request that the van is routed via the Waverley Route to Carlisle.  That way, I can wave to it as it makes its way up to Falahill summit behind a 'V2'.

I look forward to seeing George shunt the van into place at Trepol Bay.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 22, 2017, 06:54:41 pm
Yes, I’m pleased with the new arrival.
I’m sure that the relevant authorities will be happy to route the van via the Waverely Route in future. It is anticipated that the journey will be made every two weeks.
On a different note, I thorougjly cleaned my track today and as ever I’m always amazed by the improvement.
I’ve been running double headed prarie and pannier this evening at the head of a lengthy (for me) train of horseboxes. Ran beautifully.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 23, 2017, 08:41:33 pm
The contract between the Trepol Bay Harbour Trust and Messrs J&W Stuart of Musselburgh for the supply of rope and nets has now been signed after a trial run a few weeks ago.
Indeed the first wagonload of material has just arrived on Trepol Bay harbour:
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/230-221117150106.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58437[/url])


That is a very nice model, Martin, and looks well at home at Trepol Bay Harbour. I shan't be buying one, myself, however. If any ropes or nets are required at Penmayne Harbour an order will be placed at the Trepol Bay Chandlers and the goods shipped by BR van.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 24, 2017, 08:24:19 pm
The painters at The Trepol Bay Wagon Works and the CLPG workshop at Port Perran have been working overtime during the last 8 weeks urgently trying to complete a very large batch of private owner wagons for various local companies.
They are desperately hoping to finish the task before Christmas but are temporarily held up by a shortage of red paint! Hopefully more supplies will be received tomorrow.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 24, 2017, 08:47:04 pm
With the program of special trains due to begin in mid-December, all in North and West Cornwall are also keeping their fingers crossed that the painting will be completed in time to get the goods vehicles off to their new homes in time.

The Association for the Promotion of Cornwall's Railways has already heard from Waterloo and Paddington that bookings are already up on this year on last year's Christmas period, particularly on the overnight departures. Waterloo is even planning to run the dated 4PM (FSSuO in the peak Summer timetable), before Christmas and New Year, arriving at Wadebridge at 11.26PM where a through BCK (or BCK plus SK if demand continues to rise) will be detached to be taken forward as a similarly dated connection to Trepol Bay, before the train continues on at 11.31 calling at Cant Cove at 11.38, to depart at 11.40PM before arriving at Penmayne at 11.44PM, the 'N' Class 2-6-0, after leaving the BCK and SK (perhaps with an additional CK if bookings justify its addtion) in the carriage siding, going on shed at 12.05AM when the Wadebridge train crew 'sign off' and are taken home by the BR SR chartered taxi waiting for them and the Penmayne signalman and station porter.

Bookings on the all-year round late night / early morning departures from Waterloo will, this year, again, justify, as they do in the peak Summer period, running separate trains instead of portions, namely: the 00.15 (Ilfracombe and Torrington), 00.25 (Penmayne, Bude, Trepol Bay), 01.15 (Ilfracombe and Bideford), and 01.25 (Plymouth, Penmayne and Trepol Bay, also conveying Newspaper vans: Bogie Bs and CCTs). Following the sterling efforts by the present Lady Trevelver's redoubtable mother to ensure that the transport integration promised by the creation of the BTC was, at least, implemented in North and West Cornwall, BR liveried 'buses or BR chartered taxis (included in through ticket tariffs) will be waiting at principal stations to connect with the 00.25 and 01.25. These road vehicles will also carry bundles of newspapers to be delivered to the secure boxes outside the local newsagent charged with local distribution. A salutary example of efficient road and rail co-ordination that Dr. Beeching thoroughly approves of, especially as the costs are underwritten by the Association for the Promotion of Cornwall's Railways (not that, over a year, the services ever do less than breakeven according to the very careful calculations of Chief Accountant, John Prynne of the "Castle Estates", [formerly a rising star in accountants Coopers & Lybrand, in London, where he was a special advisor to Dr. Beeching]).
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on November 25, 2017, 07:13:42 am
They are desperately hoping to finish the task before Christmas but are temporarily held up by a shortage of red paint! Hopefully more supplies will be received tomorrow.

How authentic are you going to be? Hope that you take suitable precautions with all of that lead about!!!  :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 25, 2017, 07:34:45 pm
Further supplies of red paint did indeed arrive at both Trepol Bay and Port Perran today. As a result the first batch of wagons in the red livery of the Port Perran Timber Merchants Ltd have now been virtually  completed at Trepol Bay from where they were moved today to Port Perran for the finishing touches to be applied.
Here seen leaving Trepol Bay this afternoon

https://youtu.be/Qi7AyglE_Q8
(Apologies, a little blurry - I know not why - possibly due to too much red wine with our evening meal  :beers:).
Hopefully, further batches of wagons (in the colours of various local companies) will be completed over the next week or so.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on November 25, 2017, 08:38:20 pm
Nice video. I didn't find it blurry and I had red wine with my dinner. :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 26, 2017, 09:41:36 am
Many thanks for the video, Martin, and all your hard work and expenditure in time and paint completing these latest PO vans and wagons in your timber merchant's very attractive red livery for everyone. (Which reminds me, what is the name of this very successful timber merchant's business at the Port Perran sawmill, please?) I look forward to receiving mine (Christmas post allowing) and seeing the others on other people's layouts, before Christmas.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 26, 2017, 12:14:03 pm
The Timber Merchant is very simply called Port Perran Timber Merchants.
The end re painting wagons in the colours of the Timber Merchants, Headland Brewery, Prisk & Jones and CLPG is now in sight.
It is expected that trains of specially comissioned wagons will be leaving Port Perran and Trepol Bay by Monday week at the layest.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 26, 2017, 03:25:01 pm
Another batch of PO stock is leaving Trepol Bay today for finishing work at Port Perran. Here being marshalled by a Hymek at Trepol Bay. A first batch of Headland Brewery wagons:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/230-261117152455.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58570)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 26, 2017, 03:27:59 pm
Thanks a lot, Martin, for the photo. and all the hard work by the painters! 8-) However, one ex-SR uneven planked van seems to be missing its gold corner flash?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on November 26, 2017, 03:30:41 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks Martin for your excellent videos & latest photo. Will have to make do with the forum to see your excellent layout as again Sat 2/12 is another day to  :censored: work
         regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 26, 2017, 03:31:15 pm
Thanks a lot, Martin, for the photo. and all the hard work by the painters! 8-) However, one ex-SR uneven planked van seems to be missing its gold corner flash?
That will be added during the finishing process at Port Perran.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on November 26, 2017, 07:50:01 pm
Another batch of PO stock is leaving Trepol Bay today for finishing work at Port Perran. Here being marshalled by a Hymek at Trepol Bay. A first batch of Headland Brewery wagons:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/230-261117152455.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58570[/url])


This is a super photograph; thank you very much, Martin.

Stylish locomotives, the 'Hymeks'.  I have never found out why BR felt that it required 101 of them; such a precise figure.  One can only hope that someone did not think that D7000-D7100 was 100 locomotives...

More importantly; the backscene is brilliant - it has a genuine feeling of depth.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 26, 2017, 07:55:59 pm
I always rather liked the Hymeks. I saw them all and can clearly remember (aged 8 or 9) seeing the early class numbers at Trowbridge (where I grew up) on Bristol to Weymouth trains.
Like you, I always wondered why there were 101 of them. Perhaps someone st BR was a disney fan!
Lorraine, my partner, painted the backscene for me.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: tmcg1959 on November 27, 2017, 05:54:02 pm
Martin, loved the brief youTube video. I really liked the look of the black 0-6-0 loco. What was that model?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on November 27, 2017, 05:59:22 pm
Martin, loved the brief youTube video. I really liked the look of the black 0-6-0 loco. What was that model?
Thank you. Its a Union Mills Southern “Black Motor” 700 Series in Southern Railway black livery.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: tmcg1959 on November 27, 2017, 06:05:08 pm
Superb loco that could be converted to a GNR Irish UG or SG class? Love it.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 01, 2017, 08:53:12 pm
A day for unusual locomotive movements in West and North Cornwall.
Following on from the earlier appearance of a Grange at Cant Cove, we then had the  very rare appearance of a Castle at Port Perran.
Having worked in from Truro, 4080 Powderham Castle (with double chimney)has reversed her short train into Platform 2.
Maybe a substitute for the normal prarie tank on this train?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/230-011217205246.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58802)

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 01, 2017, 10:09:46 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent photo. from sunny Port Perran. A "Grange" away from the WR mainline is indeed rare but a "Castle" must be even rarer at Port Perran. Maybe, a "Hall" will appear, next?

With dieselisation of WR regular services behind schedule and availability figures low, it looks like the operating department is short of locomotives in Cornwall with all the extra seasonal services. A situation which is unlikely to improve for the rest of 1962. Good news for lovers of steam locos. and the GWS who will be able to lend their recently preserved locos. back to BR WR! In contrast, BR SR intend to keep mainline steam running to 1967, at least.

Built at Swindon Works, in March 1924, No. 4080 remained in BR service until August 1964 when it was withdrawn from Southall shed (81C), where it had been transferred in the June, to be scrapped in December 1964 by J Cashmore of Newport. Perhaps the GWS (Port Perran) intend to preserve it instead? Let's hope so as it makes a fine sight on BR WR Chocolate & Cream coaches. No. 4080 was fitted with a double chimney and 4-row superheater in August 1958 making it an impressive performer.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on December 02, 2017, 09:11:55 am
That's a lovely photograph, Martin; thank you very much.

I think the 'Castle' Class is my favourite express passenger locomotive (despite, surprisingly, having not, as yet, travelled behind one).  4080 looks splendid and I think that you have done something clever with the safety valve bonnet, which was never quite right on the Poole Graham Farish GWR locomotives.

I expect that the passengers will get an exciting run (to Truro?).

All good wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 02, 2017, 11:17:55 am
I think, John, both 4080 and 7004 were early Graham Farish Chinese-built models with the DCC ready chassis (but no DCC chip socket).
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 02, 2017, 12:13:39 pm
Wishing you all success at the Hayle show, with Trepol Bay, Martin. I hope there will be time to take some photos. Maybe, a video? But, I know you'll be busy.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: wookie on December 02, 2017, 03:54:08 pm

Nice pic of a castle Martin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 03, 2017, 02:04:10 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks Martin for the superb photo, hope all went well at Hayle show yesterday
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 03, 2017, 08:41:01 pm
A very brief but important press release  late this afternoon from the Headland Brewery.
A special Christmas brew of porter has been announced.  It is to be delivered to all Headland licensed premises (plus associated establishments) in time for Christmas.At 5.2% ABV it is a dark, warming hearty drink.
Brewed at the Port Perran brewery it is to be called very simply 3P (Port Perran Porter).
No doubt several special trains will be making their way from Port Perran over the coming weeks.


Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 03, 2017, 09:48:46 pm
Many thanks, Martin. The regular Monday morning return 'Empties' "Headland Brewery" SWB van will be dispatched to collect supplies of "Headland Ales", including 3P which is eagerly awaited as soon as the casks have arrived and been allowed to settle. The 10.10 goods, hauled by an SR 'N' 2-6-0, from Penmayne to Yeoford, a10.18, d10.36 Cant Cove, a.10.42 Wadebridge, will be conveying it with other goods traffic to be forwarded from Wadebridge to Trepol Bay, Port Perran, and Truro by the connecting scheduled goods service.

The loaded van, along with other goods traffic, will be conveyed by the following morning's 07.02 goods departure from Wadebridge (ex-Yeoford the previous day), Cant Cove a07.08, d7.26, to Penmayne a07.34; again, rostered for an SR 'N' 2-6-0, a previous connecting goods service from Truro having brought them to Wadebridge from Port Perran.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 06, 2017, 07:49:43 pm
A friend offered to weather my Class 33 whilst at Hayle Show on Saturday.
I’m rather pleased with the outcome. Here it is at the head of a motley collection of wagon with an interesting variety of loads:
https://youtu.be/jE89ebrYYmg
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on December 06, 2017, 08:25:32 pm
Sorry I blinked and missed it. :D
Can you post a photo of it?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 06, 2017, 08:38:56 pm
Apologies  Brian. It wasn’t the greatest of videos.
Is this picture better?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/230-061217203849.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58956)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on December 06, 2017, 08:51:23 pm
Very nice. It looks like a used loco, not one wearing make-up, if you follow that. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 06, 2017, 08:56:50 pm
Yes a friend was exhibiting opposite me and I was admiring the weathering on his blue 33.
He offered to do mine and this is the result. Took him all of 15 minutes!
I’m pleased with the result.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on December 06, 2017, 09:56:15 pm
Apologies  Brian. It wasn’t the greatest of videos.
Is this picture better?

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/230-061217203849.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58956[/url])



Hi Martin,

I like that a lot. You'll have to give us his number for future reference.

I've thought about weathering (not by me  :no:) in the past but never got that far, as you know, on the layout construction side.  I always thought though that if you do one then where do you stop? Saying that, one of my favourite reference pics of Dieppe shows a dirty loco with relatively clean coaches...

 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Dieppe-Maritime_mai_1973.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Dieppe-Maritime_mai_1973.jpg)

While I'm here, thanks again for all your pics.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS I'm sure Chris (IP) will be posting the names of various Cornish residents who will 'not be amused' to have that filthy thing in their eyeshot  :D

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 06, 2017, 10:08:37 pm
Thank you, Chris (Weave). It's bad enough when any lightly weathered coaches (like some BR WR Maroon coaches shown recently) and some goods vans are seen at Cant Cove. Thank goodness Lady Penelope will never see D6571 in anything less than 'just out of the carriage washer' condition! I do have some colour photos. of BR Green Class 33s in dirty condition but too much weathering is simply not to my taste. My first two Class 22s do have VERY light weathering as do my two BR Green Class 03s.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on December 07, 2017, 09:35:24 am
Yes a friend was exhibiting opposite me and I was admiring the weathering on his blue 33.
He offered to do mine and this is the result. Took him all of 15 minutes!
I’m pleased with the result.

Many thanks, Martin.  The 'Type 3' certainly looks the part.  I have seen so much badly-done weathering that my instinctive preference for polished locomotives has been greatly reinforced.  But something like this makes me reconsider my view.  It has a subtle and believable look.

Thank you for the photograph and video.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 07, 2017, 09:13:44 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks for sharing Martin, excellently  weathered, really looks spot on
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 08, 2017, 02:14:20 pm
I often post pictures of special trains or special goods services on here but the line between Port Perran and Trepol Bay is essentially a secondary route which, on a daily basis, sees mundane local passenger and freight services.
One such service is the 10.35 arrival at Port Perran from Wadebridge which will make the return journey at 11.40. This will necessitate the engine (usually a 45xx prarie) running around its train. There being
Imited space at Port Perran the loco will reverse its train out of the station, run round and take water in the loop (situated just outside the station) then propel the train back into the station in readiness for the return journey.
So.....first off we see the train having just arrived at Port Perran at precisely 10.35:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-081217140347.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59053)
At 10.50 the train is propelled into the loop where the prarie will take water:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-081217140534.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59055)
At 11.05 the prarie runs back onto the main line to run round its train:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-081217140718.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59056)
Five minutes later the locomotive is ready to propel the train back into the station:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-081217140847.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59058)
At 11.22 the train gets the all clear and reverses back into the platform:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-081217141020.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59059)
Then at 11.40 precisely the train sets off for Wadebridge. Seen here two minutes later just passing the loop again:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-081217141259.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59060)
An everyday event which nevertheless is of great interest and which provides an essential service for the folk of North and West Cornwall.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 08, 2017, 02:51:03 pm
Many thanks for this series of excellent photos., Martin, from sunny Port Perran.  It's very good to see that the volunteer cleaners have ensured that the 4575 and its two BR Crimson WR BR Standard Suburban coaches are in immaculate condition. Lady Penelope will definitely approve! Fortunately, she's staying in the Chelsea townhouse, for her Christmas shopping, so missed the rather dirty goods vehicles passing through Cant Cove on the Monday.

The 10:35 arrival at Port Perran, ex-Wadebridge and the return 11:40 departure from Port Perran to Wadebridge (an approx. 90 minutes journey) make connections with Bodmin, Exeter, London, and Penmayne. For example, the 01.15 from Waterloo which arrives at Wadebridge at 09.05, the 08.58 from Bodmin General which arrives at Wadebridge at 09.16, the 09.40 arrival at Wadebridge with through coaches (including two Sleepers in the Summer) from Paddington via Bodmin Road, and the 10.05 from Bodmin Road which arrives at Wadebridge at 10.31., then departs at 10.37 to arrive at Cant Cove at 10.43, departing at 10.45 for Penmayne a.10.49, and the 09.33 from Penmayne to Waterloo, which arrives at Wadebridge at 09.42, departing at 09.44 (after adding a through coach / portion from Trepol Bay, very smart station work! -- I need to amend this), arriving in London at 11.31.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on December 08, 2017, 02:59:12 pm
Five minutes later the locomotive is ready to propel the rain back into the station
At this time of year, it's more likely to be snow!  :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 08, 2017, 03:04:46 pm
Five minutes later the locomotive is ready to propel the rain back into the station
At this time of year, it's more likely to be snow!  :D
Oops, I missed that typo. Corrected now though.
Sunny periods and showers here today.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on December 08, 2017, 03:44:03 pm
Smashing pics, Martin
BTW - Prairie ;)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on December 08, 2017, 04:49:31 pm
Thank you for these lovely pictures, Martin.

And for your clever evocation of a way of life that will soon be swept away by progress.

It's good to see that the Great Western's traditions of working with all due despatch have carried on to BR days in Cornwall.  With limited time for uncoupling and coupling the fireman will be glad of the non-gangway stock...

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on December 08, 2017, 05:33:30 pm
A lovely set of photos. Very evocative. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 09, 2017, 09:12:05 pm
Hello, many thanks Martin, superb photos , all looks so right
         regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: LAandNQFan on December 10, 2017, 12:24:19 pm
I often post pictures of special trains or special goods services on here but the line between Port Perran and Trepol Bay is essentially a secondary route which, on a daily basis, sees mundane local passenger and freight services.
I'm so glad that I'm not the only nut trying to run a timetable - though mine is 1934 and there are no nasty diesels!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 10, 2017, 07:54:23 pm
I was rather pleased with this little video taken this afternoon from a small boat moored in Trepol Bay harbour
https://youtu.be/K2ChUKL2reY
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 10, 2017, 08:03:11 pm
Thank you, Martin. Yes, a very nice little video, indeed.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 10, 2017, 08:03:52 pm
Sounds like it's got a sound chip fitted :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 10, 2017, 08:05:52 pm
Hello, Thanks Martin an excellent video from an interesting viewpoint
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on December 10, 2017, 08:24:43 pm
Lovely! An unusual viewpoint. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on December 10, 2017, 09:18:36 pm
No wonder you are pleased: that's a super little film.  The train passing through the scene in the background is very realistic.  Nicely done.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 10, 2017, 09:28:09 pm
No wonder you are pleased: that's a super little film.  The train passing through the scene in the background is very realistic.  Nicely done.

Best wishes.

John
Yes, thank you.i thought that it worked rather well
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on December 10, 2017, 09:44:05 pm
Hi Martin,

Great idea, really lovely.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Phoenix on December 10, 2017, 09:55:48 pm
What a great video Martin, from a lovely viewpoint.

I've also just seen your last video. really shows your layout well

King regards
Kevin

 :) :)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 13, 2017, 08:48:09 pm
A Standard 5 approaching Port Perran this afternoon with a Wadebridge, Trepol Bay , port Perran, Chacewater and Truro train.
https://youtu.be/Iu7MWTvt0L8
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on December 13, 2017, 08:55:54 pm
Again, a lovely little video.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 13, 2017, 09:31:14 pm
A Standard 5 approaching Port Perran this afternoon with a Wadebridge, Trepol Bay , port Perran, Chacewater and Truro train.
https://youtu.be/Iu7MWTvt0L8

Thank you, Martin, for another nice little video of a train in the landscape.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 13, 2017, 11:03:17 pm
 :hellosign: Nice one Martin, another excellent video, thanks for sharing
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 14, 2017, 08:21:50 pm
It’s been a beautiful day in Cornwall today (I wish !).anyway, a few interesting photographs at Trepol Bay earlier:
First we have a trio of locomotives working through (interestingly with a Queen Mary brakevan in tow). All thought to be in conjunction with pre Christmas Special trains:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-141217201555.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59290)
The Black Motor was, in fact, detatched from the trio at Trepol Bay and was later seen at the head of the beautifully restored ex SR goods train which it worked back towards Truro:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-141217201827.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59292)
And just to prove that the railway has embraced the Christmas Spirit, the tree is in place on the platform:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-141217202346.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59294)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on December 14, 2017, 09:01:48 pm
Lovely photographs, thank you, Martin.

It's really wonderful to see the superbly-restored Southern Railway locomotives and rolling stock.  I know that steam is anticipated to remain at work until 1980 or so (it seems such a long time in the future!), but it is likely to be in geographically-limited areas (perhaps in the coalfields) so it is encouraging that some steam locomotives will remain in the South-West, and hopefully active, like on the recently re-opened Bluebell Railway in Sussex.  Maybe that pretty little ex-GWR 'Dean Goods' will also be restored - next year perhaps?

Wonderful Christmas tree as well.  Must do something about ours!

All the very best.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 14, 2017, 09:49:13 pm
I fully agree, John. The CLPG (Cant Cove) and the GWS (Bodmin) both have fully restored tank locos. and coaches as well as goods stock and they will be running in the runup to Christmas.

It's good to see the station Christmas tree up at Port Perran. The traditional three trees will also be on view at Cant Cove (as well as the train bringing them from Trevelver Castle's forest) but the main tree is, it is hoped, going to be specially decorated this year. A very special visitor has also been promised . . . [specially for one of my friend's VERY small daughter].
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 15, 2017, 07:46:37 pm
Not to be outdone by the SOuthern Railway devotees at the CLPG, today it was the turn of their Great Western colleagues who ran a typical ex GW demonstration goods train from Wadebridge to Penzance. Not with the Dean Goods but with the Collett 0-6-0, restored and maintained by the local CLPG group in GWR livery.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-151217194624.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59336)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on December 16, 2017, 09:15:14 am
Not to be outdone by the SOuthern Railway devotees at the CLPG, today it was the turn of their Great Western colleagues who ran a typical ex GW demonstration goods train from Wadebridge to Penzance. Not with the Dean Goods but with the Collett 0-6-0, restored and maintained by the local CLPG group in GWR livery.

Thank you for another super photograph, Martin.  Isn't that Peco 'Collett' '2251' 0-6-0 a lovely engine?  Yes, I know that there was a lot of comment when these were introduced about the unusual tender and, like for many others, the DCC fitting was an expense with no benefit for me.  That said, these were the only steam locomotives from my second attempt at British 'N' gauge with which I felt really happy.  With the splendid new Union Mills models now available, my Peco ones have moved into a dignified semi-retirement and are ideal for special workings like you have so well demonstrated.

Thanks again and all good wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 16, 2017, 07:40:28 pm
A rarely photographed corner of Port Perran today and also a rarely photographed locomotive. We see the local Class 14 (on trial in Cornwall) shunting the short sidings at Messrs Herman & Johns Engineers Ltd. The rather ancient workshop (with typically sagging rooftop) lie just to the East of Port Peran station.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-161217193829.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59364)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Phoenix on December 16, 2017, 09:54:33 pm
Fantastic pics Martin,

I can't wait till I get a bigger layout to work on !

Loving all the detail you put into your layouts, thank you for inspiring me to try my best on my little layout.

 :beers:

PS, You have some lovely locos as well, I am a little envious, as this is my entire fleet  :-[ ....... got nowhere to run anything more !!!!!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-271017040757-57345761.jpeg)

All best Wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 16, 2017, 11:30:39 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks for the latest Photos Martin, the Class 14 looks spot in the siding
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on December 17, 2017, 09:46:43 am
A rarely photographed corner of Port Perran today and also a rarely photographed locomotive. We see the local Class 14 (on trial in Cornwall) shunting the short sidings at Messrs Herman & Johns Engineers Ltd. The rather ancient workshop (with typically sagging rooftop) lie just to the East of Port Peran station.

Thank you, Martin, for this lovely reminder of summer - very welcome on a dreich December day.

One has to hope that the trial of this diesel locomotive is not completely successful and that the 'pannier tanks' remain in action in this attractive corner of the Royal Duchy.

With all good wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 17, 2017, 06:11:23 pm
Thank you very much, Martin, for two more excellent sunny photos. Every time I see them, I am reminded that I have yet to paint my rails a dark brown.

The GWS (Bodmin) also plans to run its preserved GWR livery demonstration goods train over the Christmas period along with the SR one belonging to the CLPG (Cant Cove and Penmayne branches).

The first of the WR's 650hp Type 1's appeared in July 1964, 56 of the diesel-hydraulic locomotives being constructed at Swindon Works, as replacements for the ex-GWR pannier tanks. (They were later designated as TOPS Class 14 by British Railways.) They are known as 'Teddy Bears' by enthusiasts, following a comment by Swindon Works' foreman George Cole who quipped "We've built the Great Bear, now we're going to build a Teddy Bear!". Alas, they were soon surplus to requirements; however, two are on extended loan to North Cornwall from Bristol Bath Road where they are used for their intended purpose: trip working between local yards and short distance freight trains and are well looked after by the skilled staff of St. Blazey depot. The last of them, D9555 [to become D9501, the only one I ever saw on BR] can be seen at Cant Cove on such duties, from 1965 on, (D9555, was the final locomotive to be built for British Rail at Swindon Works, in 1965). However, the GWS (Bodmin) ensures that the pannier tanks can still be seen in regular service, there, too.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 17, 2017, 07:55:19 pm
Another very short video taken from a lightly bobbing boat in Trepol Bay harbour today just catches a Class 33 passing with a non stop passenger service :
https://youtu.be/QvzZk2DzUlc

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on December 17, 2017, 07:59:56 pm
Excellent film, thank you Martin.  I'm convinced that I could smell the seaweed...

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 17, 2017, 08:50:13 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another very nice little video.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 18, 2017, 12:22:45 am
 :hellosign: Many thanks Martin, superb video
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2017, 10:37:58 am
So.....that’s the two layouts stowed away ready for our Christmas visitors. The train room reverts to a bedroom.
All packs away like clockwork stored under beds.
Hopefully I’ll have trains back up and running early in the New Year.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on December 19, 2017, 10:57:21 am
Hi Martin,

I know it's especially not the time of year to be selfish but I will selfishly miss your layout  :(.

Glad it all packed away OK.

Hope you have a great Christmas and look forward to the New Year up and running again pics.

I presume the story will continue, please.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2017, 11:41:06 am
Thanks Chris.
Yes, the story will continue. Next episode later.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 19, 2017, 04:38:32 pm
Thanks for the photos., Martin. I hope to catch up with some of them, this week. However, there will be more in January when you'll be able to add yours and vice-versa. (There should be new locos. and stock, next month, too.) At present, my mobile has died so I'll need to borrow another to take some Christmas photos.

Once I have some free time, I will be finishing my part of the current story, Chris (Weave) and may even get time to finish last Christmas's, too! Then Martin will be able to begin a new one, I hope.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on December 19, 2017, 08:48:50 pm
So.....that’s the two layouts stowed away ready for our Christmas visitors. The train room reverts to a bedroom.
All packs away like clockwork stored under beds.
Hopefully I’ll have trains back up and running early in the New Year.

I hope you are not too bereft without trains running at Christmas - does Mrs PP's lovely little layout stand in place of Port Perran and Trepol Bay over the holiday?  I look forward to seeing more photographs next year.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2017, 08:51:10 pm
So.....that’s the two layouts stowed away ready for our Christmas visitors. The train room reverts to a bedroom.
All packs away like clockwork stored under beds.
Hopefully I’ll have trains back up and running early in the New Year.

I hope you are not too bereft without trains running at Christmas - does Mrs PP's lovely little layout stand in place of Port Perran and Trepol Bay over the holiday?  I look forward to seeing more photographs next year.

Best wishes.

John
Thanks John.
It is highly likely that Mrs PPs Descanso Farm will come out over the festive period. Probably stretching the legs of my M7 tank.
Have a good Christmas.
Martin
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 19, 2017, 09:52:18 pm
Thank you for everything, Martin. A Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your partner, too. I look forward to the next instalment and, maybe, a photo. of the M7 at Descanso Farm.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 20, 2017, 07:42:14 am
And Happy Christmas to you too.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 29, 2017, 04:58:20 pm
Our guests have now departed homeward so I’ve spent today re-instating my two railways. The weather here has been somewhat erratic here over the last few days but as it was dry and partly sunny at 1-00ish we decided to tale a walk around the village. The met office app suggested a 5% chance of rain. Obviously we got drenched. Nevertheless this afternoon the two layouts are back up annd running. At least I’ve run  a light engine test around all the track. This evening, after our meal, I’ll check all the joints between baseboards as if there are any problems-that’s where they’ll be. Living in a 200 year old cottage with very rickety floors it generally takes a day or so for the layout to settle down and for me to get everything properly level again.
Anyway, hopefully all goes well and I can get some proper trains running later.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 29, 2017, 05:28:34 pm
Excellent news about the model railway layout, Martin. I hope to be posting some 'Christmas' photos., early next week. I hope we will have sunshine. I'm planning to rebox models by category and type which should make forming particular types of trains easier instead of searching everywhere.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 29, 2017, 06:59:38 pm
With the railway through Port Perran and Trepol Bay having been closed for permanent way improvements over the Christmas period, it was with some relief that the Divisional Controller was able to announce the line fully open at mid day today.
Trains are now running to the normal timetable.
However, a very unusual train passed through Trepol Bay headed for Penzance today. The train originated in Scotland and has worked down through England advertising the whisky of Messrs Whyte and Mackay. The train consists of several vans  of blended malt whisky plus coaching stock conveying senior officials and salesmen from the Scottish distillery. The first vehicle (which has aroused massive interest) conveys a huge bottle of whisky used to advertise the company.
We see the train hauled by a Grange in superb condition :

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-291217185724.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59860)
And a close up of the first vehicle :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-291217185811.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59861)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on December 29, 2017, 07:04:58 pm
Superb!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on December 29, 2017, 07:12:56 pm
The 'Grange' is a credit to all concerned.  They were such good-looking locomotives.

With regard to the special whisky train; I'm delighted that it is far, far away in the Royal Duchy, as I cannot stand the stuff!  There will be plenty around on Hogmanay, no doubt, but I'll take extra special care to avoid it.

All the best.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 30, 2017, 04:13:26 pm
It’s very much “cat’s whiskers” to the fore at Port Perran this afternoon :

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-301217161315.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59895)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 30, 2017, 05:01:44 pm
Thank you for the latest excellent photos., Martin. All the diesel units must be in service as the steam locos. are being specially cleaned and polished for the New Year's specials.

The latest dated photo I can find of a diesel railcar with whiskers, in North Cornwall, ("Branch lines around Bodmin") is of W55001 at Boscarne Exchange Platform on 24th July 1964, so I need to have a model of this one as my (renumbered) W55017 has an added small yellow warning panel.

Ex-GWR diesel railcar W30W in BR Dark Green [to be renumbered W23W] will be running at the New Year along with the two BR diesel single units and a 3-Car Metro-Cammell DMU on an enthusiasts' special from Birmingham.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on December 30, 2017, 06:34:26 pm
It’s very much “cat’s whiskers” to the fore at Port Perran this afternoon :
Thank you very much for an interesting and agreeable photograph.

What follows is my opinion only:

Multiple Units look best in these liveries.
Multiple Units look much better in British 'N' gauge than in 1:1 scale (or, indeed, any other scale with the possible exception of 3mm/TT).
GWR diesel railcars look good in any scale or livery!

Thanks again and best wishes.

John

We also had cats whiskers, but of a different kind, to the fore today and a derailed 'Gresley Teak' as a consequence!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on December 31, 2017, 02:15:12 pm
Continuing my recent theme of short videos from more unusual angles.
We have an Ivatt 2-6-2T running through Trepol Bay:
https://youtu.be/_XxxUzNxNk0
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 31, 2017, 11:07:30 pm
Many thanks Martin for the latest  :greatpicturessign: The video from up high is a wonderful way of portraying your layout IMO
       regards Derek
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 01, 2018, 07:42:09 pm
A great way to relax I think:
https://youtu.be/Yec5puEG_yA
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on January 01, 2018, 07:50:02 pm
Hi Martin,

Indeed it is. Unfortunately that is why I get nothing done and enjoy watching yours and everyone else's layouts.

Happy New Year.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 01, 2018, 07:51:15 pm
Hi Martin,

Indeed it is. Unfortunately that is why I get nothing done and enjoy watching yours and everyone else's layouts.

Happy New Year.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Particularly when your team has just lost 5-0!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on January 01, 2018, 08:55:52 pm
I'm sorry Martin,

They were probably resting players before they play Man City in the cup.

I'm not happy too. Lost to the blimmin' gasheads after one nil up with 6 minutes to go  :veryangry:.

Anyway, my niece came down to see me today so think I'll be OK...

https://www.flatbellybible.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/red-wine-drinking-weight-loss.jpg (https://www.flatbellybible.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/red-wine-drinking-weight-loss.jpg)

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS Sorry  :offtopicsign: (ish)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 04, 2018, 07:05:25 pm
The Port Perran Timber Company has recently won a contract to supply the roofing timbers for a new Northlight style warehouse adjacent to the railway station at Wadebridge.
The first trainload, including the initial roof trusses left the workshops by rail today. The train is pictured passing Trepol Bay at 15.24 this afternoon.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/230-040118190514.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=60151)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on January 04, 2018, 07:12:13 pm
It looks like those trusses might have pushed the loading gauge a bit!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 04, 2018, 07:15:59 pm
It lloks like those trusses might have pushed the loading gauge a bit!
The civil engineer was somewhat concerned but clearance was finally granted subject to a maximum speed limit of 20mph.
In reality the load does fit under my bridges etc - just.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on January 04, 2018, 09:47:00 pm
The Port Perran Timber Company has recently won a contract to supply the roofing timbers for a new Northlight style warehouse adjacent to the railway station at Wadebridge.
The first trainload, including the initial roof trusses left the workshops by rail today. The train is pictured passing Trepol Bay at 15.24 this afternoon.

That's a great picture, Martin.  Just the thing to cheer me up after getting home late from my first day back at business after New Year.

Many thanks and all good wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 05, 2018, 09:53:50 am
The Port Perran Timber Company has recently won a contract to supply the roofing timbers for a new Northlight style warehouse adjacent to the railway station at Wadebridge.
The first trainload, including the initial roof trusses left the workshops by rail today. The train is pictured passing Trepol Bay at 15.24 this afternoon.

That's a great picture, Martin.  Just the thing to cheer me up after getting home late from my first day back at business after New Year.

Many thanks and all good wishes.

John

Seconded, John. A very good photo. of an unusual train load. (I, too, had wondered about clearances but I thought that Martin would have tested that.) It's good news that there will be a new rail-served warehouse at Wadebridge.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 05, 2018, 01:41:19 pm
The Port Perran Timber Company has recently won a contract to supply the roofing timbers for a new Northlight style warehouse adjacent to the railway station at Wadebridge.
The first trainload, including the initial roof trusses left the workshops by rail today. The train is pictured passing Trepol Bay at 15.24 this afternoon.

That's a great picture, Martin.  Just the thing to cheer me up after getting home late from my first day back at business after New Year.

Many thanks and all good wishes.

John
I’m pleased  that you like the picture John. I feel for those of you who have to return to work. No such worries here these days so more time for playing with my trains!
Martin
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 05, 2018, 01:44:08 pm
The Port Perran Timber Company has recently won a contract to supply the roofing timbers for a new Northlight style warehouse adjacent to the railway station at Wadebridge.
The first trainload, including the initial roof trusses left the workshops by rail today. The train is pictured passing Trepol Bay at 15.24 this afternoon.

That's a great picture, Martin.  Just the thing to cheer me up after getting home late from my first day back at business after New Year.

Many thanks and all good wishes.

John

Seconded, John. A very good photo. of an unusual train load. (I, too, had wondered about clearances but I thought that Martin would have tested that.) It's good news that there will be a new rail-served warehouse at Wadebridge.
The new warehouse has created much speculation as no details of either owners or purpose have yet been revealed. There is speculation, however that goods traffic over the North Cornwall and Wadebridge to Truro lines will increase as a result.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 05, 2018, 04:01:10 pm
An unashamedly GW feel to activities at Port Perran this afternoon.
A pannier tank (complete with shunter’s truck) has been fussing about marshalling wagons for the later pick up goods but has been moved into the station area to make way for the Collett 0-6-0 passing through on a mixed goods from Wadebridge to Drump Road yard at Redruth. The collett has been, somewhat unusually, routed through the station rather than taking the avoiding line.
Meanwhile a prarie tank waits at Platform 2 with the 15.40 local for Newquay.
The 94xx pannier, simmering on shed, will later work a train from the Headland Brewery to Truro.
It’s a lovely day. Locals are enjoying the sea air on and around the beach. They seem unaware of the day to day railway activity being played out behind them.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/230-050118160042.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=60207)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on January 05, 2018, 07:59:04 pm
The Port Perran Timber Company has recently won a contract to supply the roofing timbers for a new Northlight style warehouse adjacent to the railway station at Wadebridge.
The first trainload, including the initial roof trusses left the workshops by rail today. The train is pictured passing Trepol Bay at 15.24 this afternoon.

That's a great picture, Martin.  Just the thing to cheer me up after getting home late from my first day back at business after New Year.

Many thanks and all good wishes.

John
I’m pleased  that you like the picture John. I feel for those of you who have to return to work. No such worries here these days so more time for playing with my trains!
Martin

Thank you, Martin.

By way of one of life's lovely little rewards, today's business activity involved speaking to a group of retired railway officers.  They were about the nicest audience I've ever had!  Mrs Train Waiting is going to have a few days with her mother, so, hopefully, Poppy and I will be playing with our trains over the weekend.  Maybe some fine, foaming, English ale to be consumed as well.  Just like your Exeter 'Peelers' are doing in another thread.

Best wishes.

John
 
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 05, 2018, 08:22:41 pm
The Port Perran Timber Company has recently won a contract to supply the roofing timbers for a new Northlight style warehouse adjacent to the railway station at Wadebridge.
The first trainload, including the initial roof trusses left the workshops by rail today. The train is pictured passing Trepol Bay at 15.24 this afternoon.

That's a great picture, Martin.  Just the thing to cheer me up after getting home late from my first day back at business after New Year.

Many thanks and all good wishes.

John
I’m pleased  that you like the picture John. I feel for those of you who have to return to work. No such worries here these days so more time for playing with my trains!
Martin

Thank you, Martin.

By way of one of life's lovely little rewards, today's business activity involved speaking to a group of retired railway officers.  They were about the nicest audience I've ever had!  Mrs Train Waiting is going to have a few days with her mother, so, hopefully, Poppy and I will be playing with our trains over the weekend.  Maybe some fine, foaming, English ale to be consumed as well.  Just like your Exeter 'Peelers' are doing in another thread.

Best wishes.

John
The Directors of both Headland and Castle breweries upon hearing of the urgent need for foaming English Ale have agreed for one wagon load from each brewery to be despatched Northwards at the earliest opportunity and with due haste.
The 20.35 departure from Truro to Wadebridge will be picking up a wagon from Headland Brewery at Port Perran. At Wadebridge a wagon from the Castle Brewery will be waiting. The two vans will then be added to the overnight Wadebridge to Exeter Goods (23.40 off Wadebridge yard). From Exeter the vans will be worked Northwards starting with the 06.02 freight to Gloucester.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 11, 2018, 08:23:30 pm
A Winter’s evening on Trepol Bay harbour but work continues apace.
The local 04 pauses during shunting duties and waits for its driver, Charlie, who has been for a cuppa with Percy Hogg the Harbourmaster. Charlie reflects on his day, which is nearing its end, as he wanders back to his warm cab. Percy’s maroon citroen will take him home to a fish supper shortly:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/230-110118201621.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=60469)
Meanwhile Harry, one of the harbour horses is still busy and seems unperturbed by the welding being carried out in the small wagon workshop behind him. Bill, the chargehand at the Headland Distribution depot has nipped out for a quick smoke behind the Bass wagon whilst Dave the chippie is busy sawing a plank outside the wagon works.
In the background, a Class 33 enters the station above the harbour:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/230-110118202306.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=60470)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 11, 2018, 08:30:33 pm
Two excellent photos., Martin. You've reminded me why it was worth all my landlord's hard work wiring up the lighting at Cant Cove!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on January 11, 2018, 11:01:08 pm
These are stunning photographs, Martin.

Very clever; very clever indeed.

And I think it'll take more than a bit of welding to perturb Harry.

Thank you very much.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 12, 2018, 07:49:24 am
 :greatpicturessign: Martin. Very atmospheric!  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Caz on January 12, 2018, 08:23:02 am
Gets better all the time Martin, constantly developing, one of my favs.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on January 12, 2018, 10:26:52 am

(http://[url=http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-291217185811.jpeg]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-291217185811.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59861[/url])


Love it (the picture, not whisky) :)   I think, I'll need to check, but I might be able to reproduce this photo in Perthshire!  I have a set of 3 tiny miniatures, but not sure if Whyte & Mackay is one of them.

Great pictures of a superb layout, every time I look, I see another cameo that I didn't spot before
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 12, 2018, 08:02:25 pm
Aaagh. Trouble. The christmas police will be after me  :worried:
I’ve been running some trains this evening and what did I mistakenly leave on Trepol Bay platform......?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 12, 2018, 08:06:51 pm
Aaagh. Trouble. The Christmas police will be after me  :worried:
I’ve been running some trains this evening and what did I mistakenly leave on Trepol Bay platform......?

Well, you can always imagine that you were still within the 12 Nights' period. 8-)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on January 12, 2018, 09:11:47 pm
Aaagh. Trouble. The christmas police will be after me  :worried:
I’ve been running some trains this evening and what did I mistakenly leave on Trepol Bay platform......?

I suggest that you claim that the tree was left out for recycling and has not been picked up yet.

Plenty like this in our road!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on January 13, 2018, 07:35:19 pm

I hear it is considered tree-zon in some parts........
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on January 13, 2018, 08:40:04 pm

I hear it is considered tree-zon in some parts........

Which parts? :confused2:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 14, 2018, 03:51:28 pm
A busy little scene in the yard of Herman & Johns the metal fabricators near Port Perran.
It seems that a new cable  needs to be laid with two workers busy digging a trench. Mrs Reeve, the secretary, has rushed out of her office with an urgent message it seems

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/230-140118155120.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=60599)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on January 14, 2018, 04:05:37 pm
Many thanks for a splendid picture of an interesting scene.

Mrs Reeve certainly looks like she is on the warpath.  Do you think that the chaps have sliced through something?

I wish I could take photographs that good!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: wookie on January 14, 2018, 04:32:29 pm
Great photos Martin - love the distant lights reflected on the water!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 14, 2018, 04:42:58 pm
Many thanks for a splendid picture of an interesting scene.

Mrs Reeve certainly looks like she is on the warpath.  Do you think that the chaps have sliced through something?

I wish I could take photographs that good!

Best wishes.

John
It’s only my iPhone but we have those swivel type high intensity lights on the ceiling that I can move around so that the lighting is always right.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 14, 2018, 08:15:01 pm
It’s quite pleasant on a Sunday evening (or any other evening for that matter) to lay on the spare bed in the train room and watch trains go round on Trepol Bay. I cannot, at present, do this on Port Perran as I have temporarily removed the track behind the back scene (thus making PP an end to end currently - although it still links directly to Trepol Bay via Penwinnick viaduct).
Anyway, this is my view whilst a Class 22 runs around with emptycattle vans and I listen to a bit of music. Sorry....I lost a slipper as I pressed the record button.
It’s the 2 layouts (warts and all) as I view them. And.....I notice that I need to shove the backboards together a bit on Port Perran! Plus.....I didn’t get the wine glass in the video.
https://youtu.be/yB1_wC3gQNg
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on January 14, 2018, 08:23:27 pm
A great way to watch trains go by. :thumbsup: The slipper adds a bit of footage! :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 14, 2018, 08:24:36 pm
A great way to watch trains go by. :thumbsup: The slipper adds a bit of footage! :D
:laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on January 14, 2018, 08:34:39 pm
That's a fantastic film, Martin.  You have added a new dimension to the relaxing pastime of simply watching the trains go by.

You have clearly achieved the 'enjoy' exhortation of the 'footer' (very, very sorry - this is a shocking pun, given the circumstances of your film) to your posts.

Thank you for the inspiring film and all the very best.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 15, 2018, 11:01:19 pm
 :hellosign: A super photo & excellent video Martin,  :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Tornado on January 16, 2018, 08:15:28 am
love the video, it's a fantastic layout. Love the music too, quite partial to a bit of  I Am Kloot  :) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 16, 2018, 09:38:05 am
love the video, it's a fantastic layout. Love the music too, quite partial to a bit of  I Am Kloot  :) :thumbsup:
Yes, I think they are just that little bit different. Despite being in our sixties we’ve seen them a couple of times.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on January 16, 2018, 09:56:24 am
A most enjoyable 60 seconds, Martin.  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: wookie on January 16, 2018, 12:30:03 pm
Great film Martin, I didn't realise how big your layout is!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 16, 2018, 12:52:03 pm
Thank you for the video, Martin. Good to see how everything fits together from a distance.

Despite them being a Manchester band (one of the many cities in which I've lived), I'd never heard of I Am Kloot before. I'll give them a listen.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 16, 2018, 12:56:17 pm
Thank you for the video, Martin. Good to see how everything fits together from a distance.

Despite them being a Manchester band (one of the many cities in which I've lived), I'd never heard of I Am Kloot before. I'll give them a listen.
Thank you.
Yes, I am Kloot are favourites of ours. My favourite song is in my video ie Northern Skies.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 17, 2018, 08:03:58 pm
I’ve had a set of Springside models GWR headlams and tail lamps for about 4 years and always thought that they were out of scale so never bothered with them.
A message from Chris (IP) prompted me to find the lamps (which took a bit of doing) and give them a go to see if they might look ok.
Well- I know I have express headlamp code up which is a little unusual (though very much not unknown) on a branchline. So.....I speeded up the prarie tank a little to make it look important!
Anyway, the little lamps are just held in place with a tiny bit of tacky-wax and, on viewing the video, they aren’t quite straight but, I think they look ok. I did wonder if they would vibrate off but ran the train for 10 mins and they stayed in place.
Here is the prarie certainly looking important as it hurries towards Truro:
https://youtu.be/cC2H_F8OqHQ
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 17, 2018, 09:53:03 pm
Thanks for the video, Martin. Head (and tail) lamps make such a difference. It is quite possible that a branch portion of a through express train could be headed by a 'Small Prairie', especially in the off-season when it would have fewer coaches. In summer, a 'Large Prairie', like 4167 or 5198 (of 83E, St. Blazey), would be more likely, if not a 'Mogul', "Manor", or "Grange".

I recommended the 3D-printed loco. lamps (available in BR, GWR and SR types) to Gideon and he says they are really good. I will order some of the loco. lamps plus their BR tail lamps.

Using 'tacky wax', which I don't have, is an excellent idea. (I was thinking of using a drop of Super Glue.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 22, 2018, 04:34:13 pm
An unusual wagon appeared at Trepol Bay this afternoon in the form of this 12T ventilated fruit van from BR’s Eastern Region.
Aware of the growing reputation of Messrs Prisk and Jones (Fruit & Veg Wholesalers) a developing vegetable retailer from Ipswich has entered into an agreement with the Cornish company to supply early season brocolli and new potatoes for distribution throughout East Anglia.
The wagon has been worked down onto the harbour by the local 04 shunter and will later be moved into the private sidings of Prisk and Jones by Harry the harbour horse.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/230-220118163244.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=60885)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: wookie on January 22, 2018, 04:45:48 pm
Nice to see something from my neck of the woods turning up down west Martin :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 22, 2018, 09:48:45 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent photo. The van looks very good. Another sunny day in Trepol Bay, I see. 8-)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 25, 2018, 11:45:30 am
Powderham Castle has been in Cornwall over the last few weeks, mainly hauling special trains.
She is die to leave the area roday and is seen heading a short enthusiast special through Port Perran on its way to Truro and on to Plymouth.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/230-250118114524.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61000)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 25, 2018, 12:23:18 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for another excellent photo. "Powderham Castle" has proved a very popular as well as highly unusual visitor away from the WR mainline to the West. However, No. 4080 is wanted back at Cardiff East Dock (88L), having moved in August (1962) from Cardiff Canton (88A).

Local and visiting enthusiasts have been promised that further "Castles", not all double-chimneyed like No. 4080 (and 7004 "Eastnor Castle"), will appear in the area. No. 7004 (Worcester, 85A) is the first scheduled to be preserved by the GWS (Bodmin) after withdrawal, now scheduled for 1964, and will be used for steam specials to / from Paddington before and after 1964.

WR Green locos. always look especially good with WR Chocolate & Cream coaches, as here. Fortunately, Lord Trevelver has got special permission from BR WR HQ for BR WR in Cornwall to maintain several rakes in this livery for "named express trains" but, for normal trains, BR WR Standard Lined Maroon stock now (1962) has to be used.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on January 25, 2018, 01:10:26 pm
A lovely photograph, thank you.  I wish I was on that train!

Your work on the safety valve bonnet makes a big difference to the look of the locomotive.  I'm not sure that the double chimney did anything for the appearance of the 'Castles' but, by all accounts, it certainly tuned up their performance, particularly with poorer quality coal.

With best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 25, 2018, 08:32:03 pm
This is quite a weird sensation for me. My two layouts photographed in a mirror. It’s the only real way to get everything in the same photograph. But, of course, it’s all back to front so looks unreal to me :

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-250118203156.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61070)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 25, 2018, 08:40:17 pm
I’ve been running some trains this evening and it seems to be ex GW prarie tanks to the fore at Port Perran.
Two of the smaller 45xx series with a larger 51xx tank in the centre

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-250118204010.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61073)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: JohnN on January 25, 2018, 08:56:01 pm
Great to see both layouts in all their (reversed) glory. Loving the 4575s. Your running session reminds me although I have a 45xx I do need to add a 4575 to the stable.  :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on January 25, 2018, 08:58:10 pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/3659-250118205734.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61074)

Is that better?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 25, 2018, 09:01:40 pm

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/3659-250118205734.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61074[/url])

Is that better?

Brilliant.....didn’t know that was possible  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on January 25, 2018, 09:07:27 pm
Thank you, Martin (and Brian) for these fascinating photographs.

It is interesting to see how it all fits into the space.

With best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 25, 2018, 09:59:45 pm
Thank you, also, Martin. It's very interesting to see the two layouts together, even if a mirror image. I'm afraid I'd be always banging my head on the sloping ceiling!

If I get some sunshine, tomorrow, I'll reproduce the three "Prairies" with their trains. Thanks for another excellent photo.

JohnN, I may have a spare, duplicate Dapol 4575 in BR Lined Green Late Crest livery, please, send me a Personal Message, if interested. (I have two too many Dapol "Small Prairies" awaiting DCC-fitting. Also, one BR Black Early Crest "Large Prairie".)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: JohnN on January 25, 2018, 11:06:18 pm
OK, thanks Chris. I have my eye on a couple of DCC fitted ones but may be in touch depending on how things go.  Many thanks.  :) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: lil chris on January 25, 2018, 11:24:29 pm
Nice pics there Martin, most good photo software can reverse the image.  A couple of friends of mine are into photograhy, in a club etc. They had not noticed when you do a selfie with a smart phone its a reverse image. Another thing I would point out is unlike our mutual friend Chris in Prague, you would think I would have no problems with banging my head on the beams, but I do in my loft too.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 26, 2018, 09:14:51 am
I frequently bump my head.
Mrs PP always knows when it has happened by the expletives that result.
And thanks Chris, I hadn’t thought about reversing the photo and I hadn’t thought about selfies being reversed. Obvious now I think about it!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Bealman on January 26, 2018, 09:20:51 am
Good pics. :thumbsup:

What I like about your layout is that it's manageable, not like my ancient white elephant.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 26, 2018, 09:24:45 am
Good pics. :thumbsup:

What I like about your layout is that it's manageable, not like my ancient white elephant.
Thanks George
Yes, it has to be manageable. It all goes under 2 bebds when the room reverts to a bedroom. It’s a bit of a faff taking it down and putting it up again but it does work.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: wookie on January 26, 2018, 03:17:35 pm
Mrs PP always knows when it has happened by the expletives that result.

Oh I can't believe that of you Martin  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 26, 2018, 04:15:26 pm
Cant Cove's official photographer was able to record three WR "Prairie" tanks working through to Port Perran and beyond.

First, in immaculate BR Lined Green Late Crest livery, was one of the "Large Prairies", never common in Cornwall, No. 5198 (of 83E St Blazey) with a two-coach CLPG local members' special train of preserved Southern livery non-corridor stock, a highly unusual combination but the CLPG's preserved M7 in Southern livery was under repair.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvittdqa7q2jbj3/2018-01-26%2014.15.06.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvittdqa7q2jbj3/2018-01-26%2014.15.06.jpg?dl=0)

Unusually, too, the brake end of the Brake Second was leading. (The reason for this is not known.) Both it and the Composite 1st / 3rd have been beautifully restored by the CLPG.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qlescew1d73szs9/2018-01-26%2014.15.17.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/qlescew1d73szs9/2018-01-26%2014.15.17.jpg?dl=0)

Soon after, a 4575 'Slope Tank' in BR Black Early Crest livery, 5539 (83E), appeared with a train formed of two Siphon Gs, a BR Crimson one carrying parcels and mail from Penmayne to Truro, picking up and dropping off parcels and letters at principal stations en route (allowing other trains to pass it), and an empty "Palethorpes" sausages van being worked to Truro where it will be added to a train to Birmingham.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gekcfcrjjf7bxqj/2018-01-26%2014.21.12.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/gekcfcrjjf7bxqj/2018-01-26%2014.21.12.jpg?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o82uctlqx6v28pw/2018-01-26%2014.21.22.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/o82uctlqx6v28pw/2018-01-26%2014.21.22.jpg?dl=0)

Finally, a second immaculate "Prairie" in BR Lined Green Late Crest livery, 4575 Class No. 5531 (83E), appeared with three BR WR Chocolate & Cream BR Standard coaches on a special from Penmayne conveying members of the Cornish Fishermen's Wives Association who were attending their AGM in Port Perran.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uh8v3oold8ozxeb/2018-01-26%2014.30.32.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/uh8v3oold8ozxeb/2018-01-26%2014.30.32.jpg?dl=0)

The train being formed of an SK, CK, and BSK.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jp81u20ddr0y04r/2018-01-26%2014.30.49.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/jp81u20ddr0y04r/2018-01-26%2014.30.49.jpg?dl=0)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 26, 2018, 10:36:22 pm
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:  Thanks for sharing Martin.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Caz on January 27, 2018, 01:28:05 pm
Ye, wot he said   :thumbsup:

 :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 27, 2018, 08:05:29 pm
A young photographer has climbed up the small hill on the  shore side of Messrs Herman and Johns Foundry in order to get this distant photo of a very clean pannier leaving the china clay branch just to the North of Perran Beach Halt
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-270118200419.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61167)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 27, 2018, 08:24:09 pm
Thanks, Martin, for another excellent photo. I don't remember seeing a photo. from this viewpoint before.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on January 27, 2018, 09:00:33 pm
Thank you very much, Martin.

That's a lovely photograph.  The weather here today has been dismal - it is good to have a reminder of sunshine.

With best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 27, 2018, 09:20:52 pm
 :hellosign: Another superb photo & a splendid viewpoint, thanks for sharing Martin
      regards Derek





















Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 29, 2018, 08:10:07 pm
The evening 6.15 ex Tregonning Creamery milk tanks pass Port Perran on the way  to Truro where they will be attached to the evening express milk train to Kensington (usually Castle hauled).
It is unusual to see a M7 tank on shed here. No doubt she has deputised for the usual WR prarie on a local from Wadebridge.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-290118200924.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61301)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on January 29, 2018, 08:23:59 pm
That's splendid, Martin.  I'm glad that Tregonning Creamery is producing valuable traffic already.

The 'M7' really is a lovely little locomotive.  I'm an enthusiast for pre-Grouping and 'Big Four' steam, but (clean) lined BR black is surely a very attractive livery.  The BR 'Standard' '4MT' 2-6-4T looks wonderful, too.  I used to work with a chap who had been a fireman at Ayr shed.  He called them (and the Fairburn version) 'Passenger Pugs'. He said that they were good engines.

Thank you for a super photograph.

All the best.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 29, 2018, 11:37:58 pm
 :hellosign: Another super photo, thanks Martin
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 30, 2018, 07:10:21 am
Great photo Martin... but those tankers could do with a good clean! ;) (very good weathering)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 30, 2018, 07:42:11 am
Thanks for another excellent photo., Martin. Looking at photos. of the milk tankers in real life, they were almost black, so your heavily weathered ones are quite realistic. I only have one (lightly) factory weathered milk tanker so need to varyingly weather my others, especially the chassis (even if the tanks are kept clean). I also have a light blue one which needs its transfers removing before the milk tank is resprayed in "Castle Estates" light blue to make a change from the silver ones.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Biggy on January 30, 2018, 08:12:29 am
 Great Photos again Martin
Layout looks good as always. I really like the “story” around each Loco and train movement makes it feel like the real thing
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 30, 2018, 07:41:49 pm
I'm guessing that the appearance of the name, Tregonning Creamery, for the first time is significant, Martin. 8-)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 30, 2018, 07:59:59 pm
I'm guessing that the appearance of the name, Tregonning Creamery, for the first time is significant, Martin. 8-)
It is indeed. You obviously missed my post in layout in a largish case yesterday.I’m not sure how to post a link to that here but if you scroll back a little way on that thread you’ll find it.
It is indeed the name for the new layout and creamery.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: rogerdB on January 30, 2018, 11:07:24 pm
To include a link to a specific post, first click on the title of the post.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/6299-300118230054.jpeg)

The browser address bar now contains the address of the post.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/6299-300118230231.jpeg)

Copy and paste it into the new post. Well, it works for me!

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on January 31, 2018, 09:08:01 am
Yup. I right click on the post title, left click on 'copy link address' and then paste it into the new post.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: rogerdB on January 31, 2018, 09:56:45 am
Yup. I right click on the post title, left click on 'copy link address' and then paste it into the new post.

I guess it varies from browser to browser - too many to keep up with these days! But with Firefox I left click on the link (top pic) and then select the address in the browser address bar by triple-left clicking in that field, then CTRL+C to copy it in the usual way. The triple click also works when selecting the BB code when adding images in the Gallery by the way.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on January 31, 2018, 07:17:37 pm
The 04.05 ex Tregonning to Truro mixed train is, this evening, somewhat unusually headed by the CLPG’s nicely restored Dean Goods 0-6-0 as it heads into Trepol Bay under the harbour viaduct. The local 04 shunter is taking a wagon up the harbour incline to be attached to a later train to Wadebridge. On the left of the 04 the two wagons are in the private sidings of Messrs Prisk & Jones (Fruit & Veg Wholesalers).
An Ivatt 2-6-2T simmers in the small shed. It will later work the 17.20 service to Wadebridge and Penmayne.
The Southern National bus is heading towards Bodmin. No doubt taking some harbour workers home, their shift having finished at 4pm

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-310118191425.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61411)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 31, 2018, 10:08:21 pm
Thanks, Martin, for another excellent photo. with an unusual loco.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Biggy on January 31, 2018, 11:07:33 pm
Lovely pictures again. I love the Dean Goods model too.  Mine is in GWR green mind
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on February 04, 2018, 08:10:12 pm
A problem occurred just after mid day when a broken rail was discovered just West of Port Perran on the Chacewater line.
As a result all trains to Truro or Penzance from Newquay or Wadebridge were terminated at Port Perran with buses laid on to Chacewater.
This caused a certain amount of operational difficulties but very quickly the pw train was summoned from Wadebridge very unusually headed by a Q1 (on trial in North Cornwall). The Q1 is seen passing a mixed train (headed by a prarie tank) held in the loop just East of Port Perran station:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-040218195957.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61581)
A more distant view of the same scene reveals a pannier tank temporarily stabled in the yard of the Port Perran timber merchants. The signalman appears to know the driver of the Q1. Meanwhile, on the station avoiding line in the distance, a china clay train is being assembled:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-040218200249.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61582)
Turning around now we see the Q1 with its pw train heading through Port Perran station towards the scene of the broken rail.
The chaos caused by the line closure is apparent. The ex GW railcar is running a shuttle service between Port Perran and Newquay whilst the large prarie is waiting with the 1.40 departure to Wadebridge. Very unusually, two locomotives occupy the small shed road:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-040218200637.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61583)
It became apparent that the pw train had insufficient ballast to repack the area under the replacement rail section. As such an extra wagon load was summoned from Wadebridge. Seen here approaching Port Perran behind a very clean M7 tank. An equally pristine 14xx tank waits in the loop with a ventilated fruit van containing produce from Messrs Prisk and Jones:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-040218200955.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61584)
The chap walking along the lane seems rather unimpressed. Maybe he’s in a hurry?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on February 04, 2018, 08:55:46 pm
Excellent photographs, thank you, Martin.

Ending up on a motor omnibus rather than a train is one of life's hardships.

I happened to me last Wednesday - the North Berwick branch line train became an omnibus at Prestonpans.  The 'High Output Ballast Cleaner' had failed between Drem and Dunbar.  The ECML is bi-directional so all through traffic was using the one line.  The consequence was no capacity for little branch trains at Drem Junction.

All the best.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 04, 2018, 09:08:50 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent set of photos. Due to the disruption in the Wadebridge area, a most unusual passenger train was seen at Cant Cove from Wadebridge. Unfortunately, the loco. had to be replaced at Cant Cove before the train could go forward to Penmayne with its disgruntled passengers. The offending loco. was sent back to Wadebridge with a short goods train. Exclusive photos. are expected, tomorrow.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: JohnN on February 04, 2018, 10:01:19 pm
Great photos of your lovely layout and a great storyline to go with them. Thanks.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 04, 2018, 10:19:40 pm
Really must get me a Q1 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on February 05, 2018, 09:59:52 pm
 :hellosign: Superb photos Martin, thanks for sharing
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on February 08, 2018, 08:31:01 pm
A very clean D1038 Western Sovereign passing Trepol Bay station.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-080218203050.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61707)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 08, 2018, 08:59:22 pm
Thank you, Martin. Very good to see D1038 "Western Sovereign" in immaculate condition.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on February 08, 2018, 10:50:59 pm
 :hellosign: Excellent photo Martin, D1038 does indeed look splendid
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on February 09, 2018, 07:35:46 am
Very smart  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 09, 2018, 03:09:08 pm
Hi Martin, an interesting train for you to model: "the 3-coach Truro/Newquay [/Wadebridge] set, a B Set + [Collett] corridor coach provided so that the guard could collect the fares of passengers boarding at the unstaffed halts".

An excuse to run your 94xx to / from Port Perran? "the 84XX 0-6-0's were very common on passenger trains on the Falmouth branch, The two that I remember well were 8421 and 9434."
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on February 09, 2018, 08:33:09 pm
Hi Martin, an interesting train for you to model: "the 3-coach Truro/Newquay [/Wadebridge] set, a B Set + [Collett] corridor coach provided so that the guard could collect the fares of passengers boarding at the unstaffed halts".
An excuse to run your 94xx to / from Port Perran? "the 84XX 0-6-0's were very common on passenger trains on the Falmouth branch, The two that I remember well were 8421 and 9434."

Something like this ?
A 94xx arriving at a busy Port Perran with the 11.25 Truro to Newquay (formed of a WR ‘B’ Set and corridor coach). Hopefully there are no “fare dodgers” aboard!
The prarie tank standing at platform 2 will later work the 11.50 mixed train to Wadebridge.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-090218203036.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61729)
It seems that the carriage cleaners have been rather lazy judging by the state of first carriage:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-090218203203.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61730)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 10, 2018, 12:02:02 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent set of photos.

I guess the train would draw up with the corridor coach alongside the halt platforms. The original writer does not mention the season, but I would expect the three coach sets he remembers were only seen during the Summer season and special occasions. Pictures of trains on the Newquay line show two-coach trains of ex-GWR coaches in BR Crimson and BR Lined Maroon, some corridor, some not. Some Collett design (or earlier compartment stock), some Hawksworth, but no BR Standard coaches, as single-unit diesel railcars, often working in pairs, replaced the ex-GWR rolling stock in the early 1960s.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on February 11, 2018, 08:17:21 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent set of photos.

I guess the train would draw up with the corridor coach alongside the halt platforms. The original writer does not mention the season, but I would expect the three coach sets he remembers were only seen during the Summer season and special occasions. Pictures of trains on the Newquay line show two-coach trains of ex-GWR coaches in BR Crimson and BR Lined Maroon, some corridor, some not. Some Collett design (or earlier compartment stock), some Hawksworth, but no BR Standard coaches, as single-unit diesel railcars, often working in pairs, replaced the ex-GWR rolling stock in the early 1960s.
I was thinking about that.
If it’s a very short platform how would the poor folk in the non corridor stock alight?
Unless the train draws forward one carriage at a time. In which case some cheeky so and so would jump aboard thus avoiding the ticket collector in the corridor coach.
Anyway, it makes for an interesting train!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on February 11, 2018, 09:32:49 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent set of photos.

I guess the train would draw up with the corridor coach alongside the halt platforms. The original writer does not mention the season, but I would expect the three coach sets he remembers were only seen during the Summer season and special occasions. Pictures of trains on the Newquay line show two-coach trains of ex-GWR coaches in BR Crimson and BR Lined Maroon, some corridor, some not. Some Collett design (or earlier compartment stock), some Hawksworth, but no BR Standard coaches, as single-unit diesel railcars, often working in pairs, replaced the ex-GWR rolling stock in the early 1960s.
I was thinking about that.
If it’s a very short platform how would the poor folk in the non corridor stock alight?
Unless the train draws forward one carriage at a time. In which case some cheeky so and so would jump aboard thus avoiding the ticket collector in the corridor coach.
Anyway, it makes for an interesting train!

I should expect that passengers for 'Xyz' would be told to travel in the first coach.  Still happens on the K&WVR at Damems.  If not the first coach, it needs really good work by the enginemen to stop at the correct place.  To help with this, the Dartmouth Steam Railway has some very clever markers at Greenway for trains in the Up direction, as it is a short platform with a tunnel beyond.  I think that they would avoid drawing forward one carriage at a time as it's very time consuming.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: 25901JFM on February 12, 2018, 12:00:40 pm
I should expect that passengers for 'Xyz' would be told to travel in the first coach.  Still happens on the K&WVR at Damems.  If not the first coach, it needs really good work by the enginemen to stop at the correct place.  To help with this, the Dartmouth Steam Railway has some very clever markers at Greenway for trains in the Up direction, as it is a short platform with a tunnel beyond.  I think that they would avoid drawing forward one carriage at a time as it's very time consuming.

Best wishes.

John

This applies on the South Devon Railway at Staverton.  Passengers alighting need to alight from the front two coaches of a Totnes bound train and the rear two coaches of a Buckfastleigh bound train due to the short platform.  Mind you the SDR trains are normally formed of gangwayed stock.  There are also plenty of locations on the National network where long trains call at stations with short platforms.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on February 13, 2018, 08:23:41 pm
A few unusual and awkward to take shots of Port Perran from the rear.
First, the bewery yard with a pannier and brakevan passing on the Port Perran station avoiding line. The main line is to the right of the loco shed and signal box:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-130218201541.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61893)
Just a little further along the line and we see a prarie tank at the head of a local goods about to cross the level crossing. The pannier is waiting to gain access to the freight line having come off the Penwinnick branch with a loaded clay train..
Trelawney’s garage to the front with the sawmills and woodyard behind:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-130218202108.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61895)
Finally, a view from above the timber yard. The main line to Trepol Bay is in the background running under the footbridge. Beyond that are the dunes of Perran Beach.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-130218202329.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61896)

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: JohnN on February 13, 2018, 09:41:24 pm
Cracking shots Martin. It's great to see Port Perran from different angles. Looks like I'm seeing the layout for the first time again.  :)

 :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 13, 2018, 09:43:57 pm
Cracking shots Martin. It's great to see Port Perran from different angles. Looks like I'm seeing the layout for the first time again.  :)

 :beers:

Seconded! They are both such excellent layouts full of interesting details. Many thanks for these photos., Martin, which must have been difficult to take.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on February 13, 2018, 10:57:10 pm
Thirded :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: lil chris on February 13, 2018, 11:10:02 pm
Forth'ed, very nice shots Martin.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Biggy on February 14, 2018, 07:05:40 am
Fifthed (is that a thing) nice shots as always. I love how much you can get in the space available wit  gauge
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on February 14, 2018, 08:01:17 am
Sixthed (try saying that after a few West Country ales).

Lovely pics Martin. Great stuff. Forever an inspiration.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on February 14, 2018, 09:26:54 am
Seventhed!
Those shots just show how much detail you've put into the layout.
Trelawney's garage bears more than a passing resemblance to 'Heartbeat's' Scripps Garage & Funeral Parlour
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Bealman on February 14, 2018, 09:34:45 am
Indeed.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: MinZaPint on February 14, 2018, 03:13:25 pm
What amazes me is the incredible amount of detail you get in small areas without making it look overcrowded! Very clever modelling. Well done  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: mk1gtstu on February 14, 2018, 04:54:10 pm
Excellent stuff! Loads of detail in this layout  :thumbsup:

Cheers, Stu
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on February 14, 2018, 10:21:24 pm
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign: Superb Martin   :thumbsup: looking good
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on February 15, 2018, 08:00:03 pm
 A new arrival in West Cornwall today in the form of a straight tank small prarie (thanks to Chris IP).
It is seen working up to Wadebridge (passing Trepol Bay) double heading a mixed train with a sister prarie (this one with sloping tanks).
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-150218195729.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61940)
And here’s a close up of 4554 looking resplendent in its unlined black livery
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/230-150218195947.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61941)

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 15, 2018, 08:15:04 pm
Thanks, Martin, for another nice photo. I'm glad that 4554 of 83F (Truro), arrived safely. It will be seen on through trains from Truro to Penmayne via Port Perran and Wadebridge. 4554 is fresh from a Heavy General Overhaul at Swindon Works, hence, its immaculate paintwork.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on February 15, 2018, 08:41:53 pm
Beatiful Pics! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on February 15, 2018, 10:36:43 pm
 :hellosign: Looking good Martin,  :thankyousign:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 16, 2018, 06:15:57 pm
Here is 4565 (83E) with its train after calling at Cant Cove on its way from Penmayne to Wadebridge then Truro via Port Perran.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t1b46k4p3k3c8ua/2018-02-16%2015.00.26.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/t1b46k4p3k3c8ua/2018-02-16%2015.00.26.jpg?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4mkhvwgqeb2g5xt/2018-02-16%2015.00.41.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4mkhvwgqeb2g5xt/2018-02-16%2015.00.41.jpg?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iv1jlk3gxbpbb8x/2018-02-16%2015.00.53.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/iv1jlk3gxbpbb8x/2018-02-16%2015.00.53.jpg?dl=0)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on February 16, 2018, 06:18:34 pm
Thanks for those photos.
Looks good.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on February 28, 2018, 01:25:52 pm
Railway services in West Cornwall suspended for the rest of the day

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/230-280218132538.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62447)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on February 28, 2018, 01:53:39 pm
Seventhed!
Those shots just show how much detail you've put into the layout.
Trelawney's garage bears more than a passing resemblance to 'Heartbeat's' Scripps Garage & Funeral Parlour

"Eighthed" - Not sure how I missed those photos....
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on February 28, 2018, 01:54:47 pm
Railway services in West Cornwall suspended for the rest of the day

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/230-280218132538.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62447[/url])


Nice (in)action shot.

Still avoiding the snow here at the moment...(mighty cold though)!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 28, 2018, 05:43:37 pm
An excellent photo., Martin. A very good idea. Fortunately, the snow is not so bad in North Cornwall although services beyond Wadebridge have been affected.

Here, we have not had the forecast snow but it is very cold. It is -7, as I write. it should fall to -14 tonight.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on February 28, 2018, 09:30:08 pm
Railway services in West Cornwall suspended for the rest of the day

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/230-280218132538.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62447[/url])


 :hellosign: Yes Martin, almost that bad all the way to Penzance today. Here on the buses we were called off before 1300 for the rest of the day
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on March 01, 2018, 04:26:45 pm
Seventhed!
Those shots just show how much detail you've put into the layout.
Trelawney's garage bears more than a passing resemblance to 'Heartbeat's' Scripps Garage & Funeral Parlour

"Eighthed" - Not sure how I missed those photos....

'Ninethed' - I saw the pictures on a small screen and have been looking forward to being at home so that I can see them on a bigger screen.  It shows how pictures from a new angle can be a very agreeable surprise.  Thank you very much for posting them.

Railway services in West Cornwall suspended for the rest of the day.

That's a great picture of the 2-6-2T in the snow.  There's a lot of trains suspended hereabouts as well.  But snow here will be a much more common occurrence than in West Cornwall!

All the very best.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 01, 2018, 04:45:45 pm
Seventhed!
Those shots just show how much detail you've put into the layout.
Trelawney's garage bears more than a passing resemblance to 'Heartbeat's' Scripps Garage & Funeral Parlour

"Eighthed" - Not sure how I missed those photos....

'Ninethed' - I saw the pictures on a small screen and have been looking forward to being at home so that I can see them on a bigger screen.  It shows how pictures from a new angle can be a very agreeable surprise.  Thank you very much for posting them.

Railway services in West Cornwall suspended for the rest of the day.

That's a great picture of the 2-6-2T in the snow.  There's a lot of trains suspended hereabouts as well.  But snow here will be a much more common occurrence than in West Cornwall!

All the very best.

John
Thanks John. I enjoy taking the photos - especially if I can get a new angle.
As for snow, it is very definitely snowing here now. This is easily the most snow we’ve seen in Cornwall in the 15 years that we’ve been here. We won’t be setting foot outside this evening!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 02, 2018, 07:57:33 pm
A local photographer has been out today following the progress of the 2.15 departure from Tregonning to Truro via Port Perran and Chacewater.
We first see the train, headed by a 45xx prarie tank having just departed Tregonning and taking the line towards Newquay at Lower Withiel Junction :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/230-020318194647.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62514)
The prarie is timed to a very leisurely schedule enabling our photographer to easily get ahead of it and managed a photo of the train at 15.22 approaching Perran Beach Halt having just crossed Penwinnick viaduct which sits in a rather sylvan setting. The china clay train on the left is waiting to take the Port Perran avoiding line towards Truro later:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/230-020318195129.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62516)
With a timed stop of only 2 minutes at Perran Beach, it was a race against time for our photographer to get into place to photograph the train entering Port Perran station. The photographer couldn’t believe his luck with no less than 3 other ex GW prarie tanks present. We see a sister loco on shed with another waiting at platform 2 with a mixed train for Wadebridge (due off Port Perran at 15.45). The larget 51xx series prarie at Platform 3 will work the 16.11 service to Newquay.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/230-020318195720.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62517)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 02, 2018, 08:20:40 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for a set of excellent photos. of the 45xx with its train of WR BR Crimson BR Standard Suburban coaches. Good to see the sun was shining.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on March 02, 2018, 09:27:43 pm
Splendid pictures, Martin; thank you very much.

And David was correct about the 'grumpy bloke's head' in the rock formation at Lower Withiel Junction.  It's obvious, even to me, in this picture.  Just like the soldier's head in the rock formation at Slochd Summit.  Once you've seen it, you always see it!

Thanks again and all the very best.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on March 03, 2018, 11:46:13 am
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign: thanks Martin, looking good
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: wookie on March 03, 2018, 01:52:44 pm
Nice pics thanks Martin.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on March 03, 2018, 05:05:58 pm
Great pictures Martin, was great to see the 2 layouts in their intended configuration, clever use of space

Some superb detailing to drool over too, why is my mojo returns when I am so far away from my layout!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 04, 2018, 08:52:37 pm
A sunny day at Trepol Bay harbour so a few scenes showing the activity taking place.
First, it is unusual to see an M7 shunting the harbour but she was there today. The Southern National bus is about to set off for Delabole (hopfully Mrs Wiggins hasn’t missed it) whilst the two green wagons are waiting to be removed from the private siding of Messrs Prisk and Jones (Fruit and Veg wholesalers)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/230-040318204153.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62594)
Siesta time for some of the workers. Note the Class 22 with a goods train on the main line above the harbour
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/230-040318204409.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62596)
George Tonkiss is ensuring that the doors are tightly shut on the van. Meanwhile either the cattle lorry or the scammell 3 wheeler is going to have to give way
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/230-040318204617.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62597)
The harbour garage is carrying out repairs to the Morris Minor van whilst the Standard tank is waiting for the road (light engine) before proceeding towards Wadebridge
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/230-040318204858.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62598)
Finally, a load of coal has arrived by ship and is being loaded into the rail wagon and onto the BRS lorry. The old chap on the harbourside seems unconcerned as he gazes out to sea apparently deep in thought.
The small wagon lies at the end of the abandoned narrow gauge line which used to serve the harbour.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/230-040318205119.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62599)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on March 04, 2018, 09:02:29 pm
Again a lovely set of photos. Where do you keep your wine glass? There's no room visible there. :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on March 04, 2018, 09:10:56 pm
Thank you for these splendid photographs, Martin.

I'm glad the sun was shining somewhere today...

With regard to the stand-off, my money is on the Scammell giving way.  But, of course, if his father-in-law is driving the 'Mechanical Horse', then the cattle lorry driver had better find reverse gear!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 04, 2018, 09:23:49 pm
Another lovely set of photos., Martin. Very good to see the sun shining. There appears to have been some light weathering of some of the goods stock which adds to the realism. Everywhere there is much to admire but my single favourite part is the harbour wall with the seaweed below the high tide mark. Simply superb.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on March 04, 2018, 10:05:23 pm
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:  Superb Martin, so much detail to see   :thumbsup:
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Caz on March 05, 2018, 06:29:01 pm
I just love this layout, so much going on and so much atmosphere, brilliant.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: wookie on March 05, 2018, 06:43:09 pm
I just spotted the Morris Minor van up on ramps outside the lockup hahaha
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 05, 2018, 08:20:14 pm
I’ve been playing with video editing software this evening.
I’m not sure that this is going to work but I’m giving it a try :
https://youtu.be/CfyS_-PdMJw
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 05, 2018, 08:28:12 pm
I’ve been playing with video editing software this evening.
I’m not sure that this is going to work but I’m giving it a try :
https://youtu.be/CfyS_-PdMJw
Is it blurry?
It’s ok on my ipad but quality seems to deteriorate in Youtube
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on March 05, 2018, 09:19:11 pm
Many thanks for an interesting film of activity at Trepol Bay.

On my screen the buildings and scenic features were fine.  The images of the moving trains were inclined to break up at times.

Having the ability to edit certainly brings a fascinating new dimension to filming.

Thanks again and all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 05, 2018, 09:32:13 pm
A very nice video, Martin. It did become a bit blurry in places, watching it on YouTube. I saw your Stove R six-wheeled brake coach for the first time in the PWM train. It would be ideal for your milk tanker train. I think it was BR Crimson?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Caz on March 06, 2018, 10:16:18 am
I’ve been playing with video editing software this evening.
I’m not sure that this is going to work but I’m giving it a try :
https://youtu.be/CfyS_-PdMJw
Is it blurry?
It’s ok on my ipad but quality seems to deteriorate in Youtube

It is blurry because the video resolution has been set at 240 pixels, very low quality, what was the original version?   Looking forward to a clearer version   ;)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on March 06, 2018, 10:27:43 am
I’ve been playing with video editing software this evening.
I’m not sure that this is going to work but I’m giving it a try :
https://youtu.be/CfyS_-PdMJw

Most enjoyable, Martin.
I think I'd have had a great days fun trainspotting at Trepol Bay
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 06, 2018, 06:12:48 pm
Thanks for the comments folks.
Caz   Hopefully I’ve addressed the resolution issue.
Similar video below though differing train movements (just for variety)
https://youtu.be/rmVCVCHPn8s
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 06, 2018, 06:20:41 pm
I think that’s an improvement.
Just a bit jerky plus, of course, I need to keep my phone level so that trains aren’t on a ski slope!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: JohnN on March 06, 2018, 06:30:19 pm
Lovely video Martin. Seems much higher quality resolution than the previous one. Whatever you did obviously worked.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 06, 2018, 06:33:33 pm
Thank you, Martin. This video was very sharp as well as full of interesting trains.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Caz on March 06, 2018, 06:59:49 pm
A million times better Martin, thanks for persevering it's been well worth the effort to see your lovely layout in action.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on March 06, 2018, 07:41:25 pm
It's like I have new spectacles now! 8)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on March 06, 2018, 08:30:22 pm
Many thanks, Martin.  That was a super film and the picture quality was very good.

There was plenty of steam in action in North Cornwall in 1962.

Trepol Bay is a lovely model railway.

Thanks again and best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on March 06, 2018, 08:50:27 pm
Oh much better. A very busy station and a lovely model railway. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on March 06, 2018, 09:17:10 pm
 :hellosign: Agreed with yes 1st vid a bit blurry but good, 2nd wow Martin looking superb, nice one  :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 07, 2018, 07:52:01 am
Yes, fully agree that video 2 is a significant improvement  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Biggy on March 07, 2018, 08:05:17 am
Great Video. Really shows off your lovely layout
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 10, 2018, 07:39:45 pm
As has been alluded to on the Cant Cove thread, a number of special trains ran on Monday in connection with the various St Piran’s Day events.
We see two such trains passing Trepol Bay bound for Perranporth where the special Cornish day will be celebrated amidst the dunes.
First we see a Grange at the head of immaculate WR chocolate and cream stock:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/230-100318193718.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62794)
Next we see a SR BB pacific at the head of (largely) SR green stock :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/230-100318193833.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62795)
The Grange has worked its train from Wadebridge whilst the BB has worked in from Penmayne.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 10, 2018, 08:10:11 pm
Many thanks for these two excellent photos., Martin. The WR train started back at Penmayne where its Buffet car was stocked by staff from "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove for the outward journey; the return journey being covered by fresh supplies provided by the staff of the "Station Hotel", Trepol Bay. The WR special train's Prairie tank was replaced by the "Grange" at an unusually busy, Wadebridge station. The "Grange', however, had been specially cleaned by volunteers at Cant Cove before enjoying a hearty complimentary breakfast at "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove. The SR train added another, BR Crimson & Cream liveried coach at Wadebridge where some of the "Chelsea Girls" joined the train with a refrshment trolley. Cant Cove's official photographer needs to develop and print his photos.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 26, 2018, 07:48:13 pm
Welll.....more than two weeks of guests, running up and down to Wilrshire and Bristol then two days with two of my grandchildren (aged 0.5 And 6) has rather taken its toll. An exhausting 17 days!
It’s great to be back home now,  just the two of us, with a chance to get “back to normal”.
Today,  Trepol Bay has today been reassembled in the spare room and Tregonning (in its case) has also moved back into the room.
However, that’s enough for today. I’ve lost my mojo a little but I’m sure that will soon return once my batteries are recharged.
Now.......where’s that bottle of wine?   :beers:

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on March 26, 2018, 08:05:04 pm
Welll.....more than two weeks of guests, running up and down to Wilrshire and Bristol then two days with two of my grandchildren (aged 0.5 And 6) has rather taken its toll. An exhausting 17 days!
It’s great to be back home now,  just the two of us, with a chance to get “back to normal”.
Today,  Trepol Bay has today been reassembled in the spare room and Tregonning (in its case) has also moved back into the room.
However, that’s enough for today. I’ve lost my mojo a little but I’m sure that will soon return once my batteries are recharged.
Now.......where’s that bottle of wine?   :beers:

Hopefully, in front of you both and only half-full now.

Glad to hear that the railways are getting back to normal.  Hopefully, we'll get lots 'n' lots of fabulous photographs to enjoy in a day or two.

Chin-chin!

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on March 26, 2018, 08:47:14 pm
Hi Martin,

Blimey, I got exhausted just thinking about your 17 days. Glad you're back and looking forward to more of your lovely pics.

Just to warn you that I might have to bend your ear in the future (if you don't mind) about little things in my harbour.  I don't live near one (yet) but things like fuelling fishing boat facilities and the like (sure I'll think of more) questions might need to be asked. I love harbours and know a bit but hopefully you can help.

I do know how to refuel mojos though and hope that the wine is now flowing.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 26, 2018, 08:54:07 pm
Thanks Chris and John.
Thw wine is indeed flowing but the bottle is half empty not half full.
And Chris, do ask away re harbours. We live quite near to plenty so if photos would help then just ask.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on March 26, 2018, 08:57:31 pm
If you'd care to slip over here, there are a couple of bottles of wine that need emptying. :beers:
To the mods, we desperately need a wine smiley for us winos,  :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: wookie on March 27, 2018, 11:53:43 am
To the mods, we desperately need a wine smiley for us winos,  :D
Definitely!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 27, 2018, 06:15:11 pm
I posted this photo earlier today in a topic relating to SR route indicator discs.
I’ve been buidling some Metcalfe station kits for Tregonning which nevessitate popping little whitish card discs out of the station finnial sections.
It occurred to me that maybe, just maybe, they might make good route indicator discs :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-270318181332.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63466)
The headcode is wrong but it’s just a trial. What do you folks think?
Is the size about right?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 27, 2018, 06:43:27 pm
They do look about the right size to me, Martin. They would need to be 'weathered' a bit, too, as few were immaculately white. As per photos. of North Cornwall line trains, they were fitted at the 9 and 3 o'clock positions on the front of the loco. and, although painted white, suffered varying degrees of weathering from light to heavy. (BTW, in the packet of parts that come with the 'N' Class locos., you should find some of these discs.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: wookie on March 27, 2018, 07:11:50 pm
(BTW, in the packet of parts that come with the 'N' Class locos., you should find some of these discs.)
When you buy them secondhand how many still have them though?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 27, 2018, 07:15:13 pm
Both Martin's and mine were bought new, Mike. My second one has brass SR route discs (of which I bought 50 for all my BR SR locos.) fitted by Gideon. (I'm not sure if it still had the accessory pack.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on March 27, 2018, 08:25:06 pm
I posted this photo earlier today in a topic relating to SR route indicator discs.
I’ve been buidling some Metcalfe station kits for Tregonning which nevessitate popping little whitish card discs out of the station finnial sections.
It occurred to me that maybe, just maybe, they might make good route indicator discs :
The headcode is wrong but it’s just a trial. What do you folks think?
Is the size about right?


I think these are perfect.  The discs ought to be a tad bigger than a buffer head and that's exactly how the ones in your lovely picture look.  Here's a link (I hope) to a picture of something very similar in a larger scale.  The locomotive has been too heavily weathered for my liking.  I prefer the pristine Southern livery of your 'T9'.

http://www.semgonline.com/steam/pics/rv_30338.jpg (http://www.semgonline.com/steam/pics/rv_30338.jpg)


Best wishes.

John


Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 28, 2018, 08:16:22 pm
That is a well-known colour photo. of T9 No. 30338, at Wadebridge, in what I would call only lightly weathered condition. Later on, some of the 'N' Moguls were almost overall brown dirt! No. 30338 is similar to the type that Union Mills make but it had an 8-wheel 'water cart' tender.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 31, 2018, 03:27:39 pm
The Cornubian railtour recommenced services from Penzance  to Wadebridge and return today for the Summer period.
The return working is seen this afternoon arriving at Trepol Bay station behind a resplendent 6809 Burghclere Grange.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-310318152545.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63644)
Note the rather natty headboard courtesy of Caz (thanks Caz).
It’s very dark here this afternoon so a close up photo will follow.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 31, 2018, 03:40:42 pm
10 minutes after the Cornubian had passed, a very interesting train made up largely of ex GW siphon vans passed through working empty down to Truro.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-310318154025.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63653)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 31, 2018, 03:56:31 pm
Due to the success of the railway and foaming ale festival in the North, a similar event (including locomotive cavalcades) is planned for this Easter period in North Cornwall.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 31, 2018, 05:13:19 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for two more excellent photos. The specially cleaned BR Black 45xx looks very good with the more weathered 4575 on the train of Siphons. The GWR livery Siphon G must contain a travelling exhibition to be displayed at Truro.

Cant Cove's photographer hopes to have his colour prints ready, next week.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on March 31, 2018, 06:03:25 pm
Due to the success of the railway and foaming ale festival in the North, a similar event (including locomotive cavalcades) is planned for this Easter period in North Cornwall.

Wonderful!  Will it be a 'Steamy Weekend' with all diesels confined to barracks?

Many thanks for the pictures.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 31, 2018, 06:34:03 pm
That will certainly be the intention of the various branches of the Cornish Locomotive Preservation Group and Great Western Society, John, ably supported by the Association for the Promotion of Cornwall's Railways. Some diesel-hydraulic locos. will be on standby, at the insistence of BR Plymouth HQ, but there are more than enough overhauled BR WR and BR SR steam locos. to run the augmented timetable so steam standby locos. will also be available. The only limitation is the number of trained and passed locomotive crew.

Paddington has been persuaded to turn a blind eye, by Lord Trevelver, whilst Waterloo has no plans to abolish steam in the Southwest until 1968, at the earliest, despite the local presence of several BRC&W Co. Type 3s.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on March 31, 2018, 07:46:31 pm
The North Cornwall “Steamy and Foamy Ale Weekend” is in full swing with the main events taking place in Penzance, Truro and Wadebridge. However, stations in the area are a great place to follw the train movements with Trepol Bay being no exception.
First we see 34065 Hurricane with a first class only dining special from Penzance to Wadebrige :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-310318193539.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63669)
Shortly afterwards we witness a trio of locomotive cavalcades heading towards Wadebridge. First a series of ex GW prarie tanks  with one of the larger 51xx series at the front :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-310318193806.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63670)
Next are four of the locomotives restored and maintained in full working order by members of the CLPG and GWS (Cornwall branches). In order SR T9, SR 700 Series-Black Motor, WR Dean Goods and ex GW Collet 0-6-0
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-310318194114.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63671)
Finally, a quintet of WR pannier tanks woth a 64xx example leading, followed by two 57xx panniers (the second of which is in GWR livery), then a 94xx large pannier followed by a third 57xx tank in less than clean condition
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-310318194348.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63672)
A special excursion, comprising ex GW 14xx 0-4-2T and two autocoaches carried enthusiasts from Tregonning to Wadebridge and is seen here about to commence its journey
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-310318194549.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63673)
Further special trains are expected to run on Easter Day and Easter Monday.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 31, 2018, 07:51:47 pm
Many thanks for more excellent photos., Martin. Many of these specials worked through beyond Wadebridge so Cant Cove's official photographer and his lovely assistant were busy taking photos., too, which are due to be printed and distributed soon.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: DaveGlew on April 01, 2018, 08:18:21 am
 :thankyousign: Lovely detail..... Beautiful pics.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on April 01, 2018, 07:54:54 pm
How is the 'Steamy and Foamy Ale Weekend' going?

Thank you for the super pictures.  I particularly enjoyed seeing the Union Mills and Peco parade.

And the look down the blastpipe of the 'Fourteen Hundred'!

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 01, 2018, 07:58:06 pm
Thanks John.
A couple more pictures to come tomorrow hopefully.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 02, 2018, 11:33:32 am
I hope to take some photos., this week, when we get some sunshine. It's rather cloudy, today.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 02, 2018, 05:45:37 pm
Two of the trio of Prairie tanks, both 4575s, after leaving Wadebridge, passes through Cant Cove on its way to Penmayne, led by the 5101. The last 45xx was left at Wadebridge and one of Wadebridge's SWB Brake Vans added in its stead.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z4s8cymg8rmrah6/2018-04-02%2014.50.05.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/z4s8cymg8rmrah6/2018-04-02%2014.50.05.jpg?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uakjsdtr0vkf0od/2018-04-02%2014.50.34.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/uakjsdtr0vkf0od/2018-04-02%2014.50.34.jpg?dl=0)

The CLPG Cant Cove's preserved M7 is photographed with some of the Siphon Gs, the others being left at Wadebridge and a "Palethorpes" Sausages van added.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zqvn30gsx042vqp/2018-04-02%2014.57.13.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zqvn30gsx042vqp/2018-04-02%2014.57.13.jpg?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cmcwi6p9w6cs99t/2018-04-02%2014.57.28.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/cmcwi6p9w6cs99t/2018-04-02%2014.57.28.jpg?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zdp2rxyb4q6wkhw/2018-04-02%2014.58.19.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zdp2rxyb4q6wkhw/2018-04-02%2014.58.19.jpg?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/azgctzevwx4q3p0/2018-04-02%2014.58.25.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/azgctzevwx4q3p0/2018-04-02%2014.58.25.jpg?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/drvtx783so90th1/2018-04-02%2014.58.31.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/drvtx783so90th1/2018-04-02%2014.58.31.jpg?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o7two647opc9rds/2018-04-02%2014.58.33.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/o7two647opc9rds/2018-04-02%2014.58.33.jpg?dl=0)

Showing the Cafe in close-up.

Later, a second cavalcade of Prairie tanks, including the BR Black Early Crest 45xx, passed through Cant Cove having started at Wadenridge with a CK plus a WR BR Standard BG which came from Truro.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nj05t4vcsnau0h9/2018-04-02%2015.10.13.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/nj05t4vcsnau0h9/2018-04-02%2015.10.13.jpg?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4kxkdttr1o1efc4/2018-04-02%2015.10.24.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4kxkdttr1o1efc4/2018-04-02%2015.10.24.jpg?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/50ypr57yk858kiv/2018-04-02%2015.10.34.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/50ypr57yk858kiv/2018-04-02%2015.10.34.jpg?dl=0)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 02, 2018, 06:53:45 pm
Thank you for those excellent photographs.
Good to see that the praries made it through to Cant Cove.
There will be a couple of pictures of special trains (part of the Foaming Ale and Steamy Weekend) at Trepol Bay later where, unfortunately, a diesel had to take over from a failed steam locomotive.........

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on April 02, 2018, 07:09:55 pm
Thank you for those excellent photographs.
Good to see that the praries made it through to Cant Cove.
There will be a couple of pictures of special trains (part of the Foaming Ale and Steamy Weekend) at Trepol Bay later where, unfortunately, a diesel had to take over from a failed steam locomotive.........

Oh no, :no: :thumbsdown:, not a diesel locomotive intruding upon your Steamy Weekend.

Bother!

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 02, 2018, 07:52:22 pm
The final day of the Foamy Beer and Steamy Loco Weekend.
We start with the unusual combination of the CLPG’s T9 and one of the local SR N moguls heading a special from Wadebridge non stop through Trepol Bay headed for Truro:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-020418193906.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63756)
Some 30 minutes later a WR special (Wadebridge to Penzance) limps into Trepol Bay. The leading pannier has a badly leaking cylinder gland and needs to be replaced.
The Hymek (heading a demonstration freight which hasbeen shunted into Platform2 to allow the special to pass) will replace the pannier.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-020418194302.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63757)
This involved a complicated manouevre whereby the Dean Goods shunted its train into the station loop whilst the Hymek retrieved the ailing pannier:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-020418194520.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63758)
Whilst all of this was happening, an M7 was providing brakevan rides over the normally freight only harbour tracks:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-020418194656.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63759)
Finally, sometime later,the Ivatt tank, which had been stabledat Treol Bay, worked the demonstration freight on to Cant Cove whilst the M7 disgorges its passengers at platform one:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-020418194927.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63761)
Note the signalman’s bicycle leaning against the box wall. No doubt he’ll be relieved to end his shift after all the unusual activity. Maybe he’ll first cycle to yhe Station Hotel to quench his thirst with a pint or two of foamy ale!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 02, 2018, 07:56:33 pm
Thanks for another excellent set of photos. Photos. of some of the BR SR special trains which worked beyond Wadebridge will be posted, soon, I hope.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on April 02, 2018, 08:03:15 pm
Brilliant photos, Martin.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on April 02, 2018, 08:09:07 pm
Wonderful, simply wonderful!

Many thanks, Martin.

Diesel substitutions are a menace.  It took me three attempts before I got to Whitby behind steam.  Of course, there is a good reason for this.

All the very best.

John 
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 02, 2018, 10:18:46 pm
 :hellosign:    :greatpicturessign:   :beers:  Looking good Martin
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: DaveGlew on April 03, 2018, 07:22:18 am
What a wonderful scenario - a great way to "run what you like". Rule 1 rules OK.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 04, 2018, 05:38:10 pm
The first three of the quintet of pannier tanks continued on from Wadebridge to Penmayne and is seen passing through Cant Cove. However, the GWR livery 57xx and a less than clean 57xx was left at Wadebridge and a 94xx added instead.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q29pxk5yreetx99/2018-04-04%2016.03.38.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/q29pxk5yreetx99/2018-04-04%2016.03.38.jpg?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rrwvxx2n0aq5sc7/2018-04-04%2016.03.55.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/rrwvxx2n0aq5sc7/2018-04-04%2016.03.55.jpg?dl=0)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on April 04, 2018, 06:36:42 pm
A plethora of 'Panniers'!

Thank you.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 04, 2018, 06:39:00 pm
A plethora of 'Panniers'!

Thank you.

John
A plethora of pristine panniers no less  :)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on April 04, 2018, 08:33:16 pm
A plethora of 'Panniers'!

Thank you.

John
A plethora of pristine panniers no less  :)

A plethora of pristine panniers perfectly painted polished and puffing! :-[ :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 04, 2018, 08:58:42 pm
Thank you. The volunteer cleaners of the GWS and CLPG were very busy preparing the first three panniers. The leading 64xx is straight from an overhaul and repaint at Swindon Works. The 94xx was cleaned but not polished.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 07, 2018, 08:00:00 pm
Early evening at Trepol Bay today.
A Standard 5 leaves with the 19.45 to Wadebridge and Cant Cove as the station lamps start to take effect.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-070418195453.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63962)
Meanwhile, in the gathering gloom, unusually, two shunters are hard at work. We see an 08 and an 04 shunting wagons ready for the 22.10 goods train to Newton Abbot. In the first picture the Standard 5 is getting into her stride whilst it seems that the Station Hotel is gearing up for a busy night:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-070418195712.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63963)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-070418195752.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63964)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-070418195830.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63965)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on April 07, 2018, 09:10:26 pm
Very atmospheric  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: BoxTunnel on April 07, 2018, 10:58:48 pm
Wow, as a night worker myself you have captured the lighting perfectly - darkness with pools of light where necessary.

Graham, late for work!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Phoenix on April 08, 2018, 02:16:22 am
Fantastic pictures Martin,

I really look forward to your posts as you have an fantastic eye for a great photo, and they capture the atmosphere of your layout perfectly

 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on April 08, 2018, 04:02:33 pm
These are super photographs, Martin.  It must have been tricky to get them so good with the special lighting effects.  I thought the first one was especially good; the fireman of the 'Standard 5' appears to have the firedoors open as there is a glare visible from the cab.  He has shut them by the time of the next photograph.  Clever stuff!

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 08, 2018, 07:34:52 pm
Many thanks for the excellent photos., Martin. I have yet to try night photography of trains although all the lighting on Cant Cove works. (There are still some buildings with interior lighting to be fitted, though.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 08, 2018, 07:54:04 pm
Yesterday, I mentioned the 22.10 goods to Newton Abbot  - Hinksey Yard.
On a Sunday, the train runs, normally at 19.15 and today was no exception. The train is assembled in the sdings just to the West of Trepol Bay station and requires sme intricate shunting movements of wagons which have been loaded on the harbour.
First we see the local Class 04 and 08 diesel shunters working the harbour lines. They are allowed a total of 4 (max) loaded wagons up the harbour incline.
Today, we have a variety of wagons from the brewery distribution depot, fish from the packing warehouse, a wagon from Messrs Prisk and Jones (fruit and veg wholesalers), an empty wagon from J&W Stuart (netmakers) returning to the far North West, an empty oil tanker and a load of pipes (having arrived by boat earlier).
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-080418194639.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63999)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/230-080418194802.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64000)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-080418194956.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64001)
The 45xx on the main line is working a short local goods to Newquay.

The assembled Newton Abbot freight is ready to leave Trepol Bay behind an N mog7l which will work the train as far as Exeter.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-080418195216.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64002)

And finally, once all the activity has subsided, an unusually quiet view of Trepol Bay station taken from above the harbour rooftops

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-080418195351.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64003)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 08, 2018, 08:03:20 pm
A rumour is circulating amongst the local enthusiasts at Trepol Bay of the possible one off appearance of a VERY, VERY, VERY rare visitor to the area on Wednesday.
It is believed that it could be of particular interest to a certain Mr Train Waiting - a fellow enthusiast from “Up North”............
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: wookie on April 08, 2018, 08:05:45 pm
As always, lovely pics Martin
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 08, 2018, 08:10:00 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for another excellent set of photos. The enthusiast grapevine is very excited about the rumoured possibility of the one-off appearance of a VERY, VERY, VERY rare visitor to the area on Wednesday. Photographers have been notified to await a telephone call.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 09, 2018, 08:22:10 am
Specially cleaned 'Prairie' tank 4554 BR Black Early Crest, pictured previously, was allocated to 83F (Truro), 9/50-5/58.

5572 BR Black Early Crest, pictured recently, was allocated to 83E St Blazey, 9/60-4/61, and was one of only two Auto Prairies shedded at St. Blazey (83E), 5534: 1/60-8/60, being the other and which will be appearing at Cant Cove, in the future. No. 5572 was allocated to Plymouth Laira (83D) 2/58-9/60 and 4/61-4/62 and, later, carried BR Lined Green small Late Crest livery. So, you can use No. 5572 with all your autocoaches. Whether No. 5572 will appear at Cant Cove and in which livery has still to be seen.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on April 09, 2018, 08:57:51 am
Thank you for the lovely pictures of Trepol Bay and the 1915 Sundays Only goods train to Hinksey Yard.

A rumour is circulating amongst the local enthusiasts at Trepol Bay of the possible one off appearance of a VERY, VERY, VERY rare visitor to the area on Wednesday.
It is believed that it could be of particular interest to a certain Mr Train Waiting - a fellow enthusiast from “Up North”............

What can this one-off visitor be?  Trepol Bay is gauged for those wide GWR locomotives that bash platform edges elsewhere, so the limit will be axle loading.  I've sort of assumed that Trepol Bay can accommodate 'Red Route' GWR engines so, hopefully, 'RA9' will be fine as well, if the visitor is from the LNER/BR(E)/BR(NE)/BR(Sc).  But, maybe, it will be something gorgeous in crimson lake.

But why am I assuming that the visitor is a locomotive?  It might be a Pullman Car with Jenny Agutter enjoying afternoon tea  :heart2:.  After all, you did say, '... particular interest...'

I'll have to wait until Wednesday  :whistle:!

Thanks again for all those fabulous photographs.  Hopefully, there will be some from Port Perran as well over the next few days.

Must dash - I have a 'J39' to dismantle!

Cheerie-bye!

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 09, 2018, 09:53:04 am
The (G)WR Route availability colour codes system was based on axleloading and was as follows:

Uncoloured  - up to 14 tons; 1366, 2301

Yellow  - Up to 16 tons; 2251, 45xx, Class 22 Type 2

Blue -  Up to 17tons 12cwt; 2884, 61xx

Red - All engines over 17 tons 12cwt, (except "King" Class ones which were Double Red); 47xx, 49xx ("Hall"), 94xx, Class 42 Type 4 "Warship".

Power and route restriction indications

The route colour disc, with the power classification letter inside it, began to appear from mid-1919, and were indicated by a 2½" black letter centered within a 4½" diameter coloured circle. These were placed above the number plate, or high up on the cabside plates where no cabside windows were present.

The colour of the circle is the general axle weight restriction:

Colour            Axle weight
(uncoloured): 14 tons or below (even if a route was classified 'Uncoloured', i.e. the Tetbury branch, 55xx's were permitted and they were Yellow. So photos of locos on a line may not give an accurate indication of its specified Route Colour)
yellow: 14 tons up to 16 tons;
blue: 16 tons up to 17 tons 12cwt
red: above 17 tons 12cwt (however, the 47XX were banned from quite a lot of 'Red' route mileage)
double red   for Kings

The principle of allowing certain classes to work over lines from which their RA colour would suggest them to be barred was long established although subject to restrictions in most cases, and usually only one colour lower; e.g. 94xx from Cant Cove to Penmayne at restricted speed. Equally, in some cases engines of a lower colour were prohibited over routes with a higher colour, e.g 92XXX - which were RA Blue - were barred between Wellington and Saltney Jcn, which was a Red route.

The restrictions are as they were at a particular point in time and could, and did, change over the years.

The black letter in the circle is the power group, according to the maximum tractive effort:

Letter   Tractive effort, lbs max
(none) 16500; e.g. 1361, 14xx
A   18500; 16xx, 2301
B   20500; 1101, 2251
C   25500; 45xx, 57xx
D   33000; 4073 ("Castle"), 43xx, 56xx
E   38000; 2884, 72xx
('special')   above 38000; 60xx ("King")

The 'special' code equated in reality to no letter being present in the "King" double red discs.

For a map, from George Behrend's wonderful book, "Gone With Regret", see: https://www.flickr.com/photos/longsheds/8439082392/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longsheds/8439082392/)

However, this diagram needs to be treated with caution. The Falmouth Branch is shown as un-coloured, but the BR(W) booklet shows it as RED! Things did change with time, but that's a major upgrade.

The "hatched red" routes comprised Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads, both via Bath and via Badminton; Reading to Devonport via Newbury; Bristol Temple Meads to Taunton; and Paddington to Wolverhampton Low Level via Bicester. Further routes were raised to this category after Nationalisation: Wolverhampton to Chester via Shrewsbury; and Bristol to Shrewsbury via Abergavenny.

In addition, there were -- but not shown on the engines themselves -- 'Dotted' colours, e.g. Dotted Red allowed a Red engine to run over what were otherwise certain Blue routes but at restricted speed.  Equally some Red engines were barred from running on Red routes - e.g. 47xx 2-8-0s not permitted into Cornwall or South Wales.

In a few cases, e.g. 57xx Class pannier tank locos. were recoded to a colour lower than their axleload would suggest and this was because they had been found to have less than expected hammer blow so caused less damage to the track than other engines of their axle load; accordingly, in 1950, they were reclassified from "Blue" to "Yellow".

The letter codes on the RA disc were the GWR equivalent of the Power class based on tractive effort. They weren't anything to do with Route availability.

However, in practice, the situation was even more complicated. For example, the BR(W) June 1963 Bristol & Plymouth Divisions' Locomotive Route Availability (Branch Lines) booklet  showed that:

Even though 9Fs were BLUE, there were additional restrictions. On RED routes, Siding Restrictions were as per 28/38xx class. On Blue Routes, as for 38xx and restricted to 50mph. On Dotted Blue, restricted to 25mph. Prohibited on Yellow and Uncoloured routes - obviously! Then there were a multitude of local restrictions; i.e. Bristol Temple Meads to Wapping Wharf - Red Route, limited to 5mph!! Minehead branch - Blue route line, 92xxx prohibited. And so it goes on.

To conclude, in our 'Alternative Cornwall', the Truro-Port Perran-Newquay-Trepol Bay-Wadebridge-Bodmin Road lines were upgraded to Red in the early 1930s, (using Government subsidised loans to alleviate unemployment, under the Development (Loan Guarantees and Grants) Act of 1929), as an alternative route to Truro-Plymouth-Bodmin Road-Wadebridge. Wadebridge to Cant Cove was also upgraded by BR WR, in the early 1960s to accommodate heavier trains, before Dr. Beeching cancelled the more expensive work from Cant Cove to Penmayne which, therefore, remains a Blue-coded route. Hence, most trains change locos. at Wadebridge.

(In real life, Bodmin Road-Wadebridge was upgraded to Blue in WW2 to allow 43xx locos. to haul GWR trains from Wadebridge to Exeter as an alternate route to the GWR mainline.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on April 09, 2018, 12:46:02 pm
Thanks Chris, for your comprehensive listing.  I remember that the routes to Shrewsbury and Chester were certainly hauled by Kings by the late 1950s.  I think the route to Aberystwyth must have been upgraded after the war as well because the Cambrian Coast Express was usually hauled by a Castle (although there may have been a loco change at Shrewsbury).
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on April 09, 2018, 01:44:04 pm
Many thanks for this, Chris.

And for mentioning the late Mr Behrend.  I have 'Gone With Regret' and 'Don't Knock the Southern'; both are excellent.  The kind of railway books that one packs in the luggage when going away.  Like anything by C Hamilton Ellis or David L Smith.

Thanks Chris, for your comprehensive listing.  I remember that the routes to Shrewsbury and Chester were certainly hauled by Kings by the late 1950s.  I think the route to Aberystwyth must have been upgraded after the war as well because the Cambrian Coast Express was usually hauled by a Castle (although there may have been a loco change at Shrewsbury).

Laurence,I'm as certain as a non-WR person can be that there was a locomotive change at Salop.  'Manors' are the locomotives I associate with the 'CCE'.  I think the Cambrian was one of the routes that was used as a justification for the BR 'Standard' '4MT' 4-6-0 class which was (I think) RA4.  The '5MT' 4-6-0 was (again, I think) RA7.  The good thing about the 'Manors' was that they were Power Class 'D' and 'Blue' route availability.  A smaller boiler was the key.  This brought its own problems, of course.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 09, 2018, 09:21:57 pm
I'm glad that it was useful, Lawrence and John.

I can confirm that the "Cambrian Coast Express" did change locos. at Shrewsbury. "Manors" then, under the LMR, BR Standards (4MT 4-6-0s), were used.

Somewhere I must have the details of the Power Class and Route Availability for all (G)WR steam locos. and WR diesel hydraulics, at least.

I had never heard of "Don't Knock the Southern" but have ordered it as "Gone With Regret" is one of my most favourite books. (I have both the First and Second Editions -- different photos. and some factual updates.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 09, 2018, 10:43:45 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks for your latest photos Martin, the Evening shots are really superb & thanks for the route info Chris
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 11, 2018, 04:56:15 pm
Railway enthusiasts in West and North Cornwall are in a state of high excitement and anticipation. As predicted on Sunday, a special train is due to run from Penzance to Bristol this afternoon via Redruth, Port Perran, Trepol Bay, Wadebridge and on to Exeter via the North Cornwall line.
It is rumoured that the locomotive due to haul the train ran down overnight from Birmingham under the cover of darkness and was this morning stabled deep within Long Rock loco shed.
Enthusiasts in Birmingham believe that the loco arrived there from York on Monday with a special train conveying senior staff members from Rowntrees to a conference in Bourneville.
The locomotive was specially requested by members of the CLPG to take them on a five day visit to Edinburgh via the Waverley route which explains its journey from Birmingham to Penzance.
We await its identity with mounting anticipation........
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on April 11, 2018, 06:53:41 pm
The 'state of excitement and anticipation' of railway enthusiasts in West and North Cornwall is matched, I'm given to understand, by that of the members of the Edinburgh Licensed Trade Association.  A train full of Cornish railway enthusiasts visiting the city for five days is a glorious prospect :pint: :pint: .

I hope to see the special passing.  Down trains on the Waverley Route are running down from Falahill Summit hereabouts, so there will not be much to hear.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 11, 2018, 07:04:15 pm
Connecting trains from Penmayne to Wadebridge are being specially strengthened and all will call at Cant Cove to ensure that local enthusiasts will be able to see and photograph the special train even if they cannot afford to buy tickets on it. The CLPG have promised special local steam locos. and coaches will be allocated to these connecting trains. Vans of refreshments for restocking the train during its stop at Wadebridge have been added to local goods and passenger services.

The "Chelsea Girls" have been assured of a reserved 1st Class compartment and will be bringing rugs and pillows.

Local photographers are praying for sunny weather.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 11, 2018, 07:43:58 pm
So....the patience of the local enthusiasts has been rewarded.
First we see the special passing through Port Perran:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-110418194004.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64078)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-110418194049.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64080)
Yes.....it’s a B12/3 in LNER livery!
The enthusiasts could hardly believe their eyes and it appears that the local gangers are agog too.

It is seen later passing Trepol Bay:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-110418194303.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64081)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-110418194346.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64082)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on April 11, 2018, 08:36:43 pm
Most wonderful!

No. 1565 is an enchanting engine.  I'm no enthusiast for the LNER '1946' renumbering, apart for the agreeable instance of the '1500s' becoming 1500s again!

Many thanks for these fabulous photographs, Martin.  Are you feeling the need for a rake of the lovely Dapol Gresley teak carriages?

The engine's apple green livery is in apple-pie order.  She's been prepared to perfection, I'd say.

The combination of your photographic skills and Union Mills' paint finish has resulted in that magical shine along the boiler.  So many model locomotives nowadays have a very flat finish.  I have acquired an Ixion Models 'Manor' in GWR livery and it is not, to my eye, anything like GWR green.  No depth at all.

Finally, if you have the April 2018 Railway Magazine, there is a splendid picture of No. 8572 running on the Severn Valley Railway last month, which is almost as good as your photographs of No. 1565!  (Page 66 refers.)

Thanks again for these photographs and I hope to see this lovely locomotive passing on the final stage of its journey to Edinburgh.

All the very best.

John
 
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 11, 2018, 08:51:50 pm
Thank you John.
This all came about because I paid a visit to a colleague from our local N Gauge grouo on Sunday. He has a rather splendid N Gauge layout that runs all around the house. Yes, living room, 2 bedrooms and hall. Amazing. Only thing is it is 1980s diesel. He had said he had one rarher old UM steam engine however and said he’d hunt it out and bring it along to our next meeting (today).
Now, I give him a lift to our club meetings so he arrived today at my house ready for the lift with 1565 all boxed up. It is rather elderly but ran (just about) for the first time for about 10 years.
Anyway, I thought it would look just fine for now posed for photos.
I was bowled over when he said I could keep it as a gift for giving him a lift each week. Brilliant.
I shall give it a clean and an oil and see if I can get it running a bit better.
Thanks Steve.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 11, 2018, 09:13:44 pm
I'm sure that a careful clean and a very light oil then a good running session should bring it back to smooth running, Martin.

It does look very good but I agree a rake of Gresley coaches (very expensive, I know) would be the finishing touch. Failing that a rake of BR Lined Maroon Standard (Mk I) coaches looks very good. A Collett 'strengthener' has been added by the WR, I see.

Now you'll have to come up with a story explaining No. 1565's preservation in 1946 LNER livery. No. 1565 brought back many happy memories to Lady Trevelver's mother.

Thanks for another excellent set of highly attractive photos. Very good to see Port Perran, again.

I hope, on Friday, to post some pictures of the sold-out special connecting services to and from Wadebridge.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 12, 2018, 09:51:01 pm
 :hellosign: Thanks for the excellent photos of the most intruiging visitor Martin, the apple green livery is really special & looks right at home on Port Perran
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 17, 2018, 07:14:34 pm
Early and late evening sees an interesting and complex series of parcels and mail trains throughout Cornwall.
One such working sees an early evening train from Wadebridge to Truro via Trepol Bay, Newquay, Port Perran and Chacewater.
A single passenger coach is always added at the front but is used mainly by locals travelling to adjacent stations as the entire journey (which involves dropping and collecting coaches and vans at various stations) takes nearly 3 hours for the 28 miles. Leisurely progress indeed!
The train is seen at Trepol Bay behind an Ivatt 2-6-2T and contains vehicles from Penmayne  and Wadebridge. The two vehicles in the bay at Trepol Bay will be added to the train for Truro during a 25 minute layover here.
The two rearmost vehicles are a pparcels carriage for Newquay and a van for Tregonning (both of which will be removed at Newquay):
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-170418191024.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64308)
Some 90 minutes later, the van is seen being reversed into the bay at Tregonning as part of the 19.23 service from Newquay headed (as usual) by a green WR prarie tank :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-170418191343.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64309)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-170418191428.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64310)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on April 17, 2018, 07:47:16 pm
Thank you Martin. Great pics. Really lovely.

I already gave you an extra pain au chocolat on the Tregonning thread earlier so no more for now. Maybe tomorrow. Wonderful stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 17, 2018, 08:02:02 pm
I would actually love a pain au chocolate but am on a diet.
I’ve lost just over a stone over 8 weeks and would really like to lose about another 6lbs to get me down to 11st 8ish.
I’ve done it by really cutting back on cakes with coffee, slughtly smaller portions,no chocolate and no crisps or peanuts (all weaknesses for me). Plus, lots of walking.
I’ll enjoy those pain au chocolates when I reach my goal. 
Still allowed a small glass of something in the evening though  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on April 17, 2018, 08:15:57 pm
Hi Martin,

Sorry  :doh:. That's probably the last thing you wanted to hear while on a diet but WELL DONE for losing a stone. Enjoy your evening tipple.

 :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 17, 2018, 08:20:12 pm
Hi Martin,

Sorry  :doh:. That's probably the last thing you wanted to hear while on a diet but WELL DONE for losing a stone. Enjoy your evening tipple.

 :beers:
No worries at all Chris. I do allow myself one small cake per week.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: lil chris on April 18, 2018, 10:00:28 am
Looking good there Martin. That's my weakness too another small cake,I should be nine and a half stone, I have got near 9s_8 but another small cake and I am back at 9s11. Only a few pounds too much, I need to do more walking again. I was ill last week with a flare up but getting back now,a bit of nice weather and I will be ok.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: wookie on April 18, 2018, 07:54:05 pm
After all my heart problems and fear of doing anything strenuous, I found out just how unfit I am today when I walked through the town centre!
I had previously lost a lot of weight, but have put a fair bit back on.  :(
I'm laying paving slabs tomorrow in the heat, then pumping the bike tyres up.....that should lose a bit!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: DaveGlew on April 18, 2018, 08:05:19 pm
After all my heart problems and fear of doing anything strenuous, I found out just how unfit I am today when I walked through the town centre!
I had previously lost a lot of weight, but have put a fair bit back on.  :(
I'm laying paving slabs tomorrow in the heat, then pumping the bike tyres up.....that should lose a bit!
Is that wise? Take care
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 18, 2018, 08:26:31 pm
After all my heart problems and fear of doing anything strenuous, I found out just how unfit I am today when I walked through the town centre!
I had previously lost a lot of weight, but have put a fair bit back on.  :(
I'm laying paving slabs tomorrow in the heat, then pumping the bike tyres up.....that should lose a bit!
Is that wise? Take care
Seconded. Laying paving slabs, having done it 30 years ago, when I was rather fitter than today, does not sound like a good idea.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on April 18, 2018, 09:20:16 pm

Heart specialist told me to go out and live my life. My last episode was probably due to the pacemaker being set up wrongly. He's sure that what I thought is angina actually isn't but caused by stress cos that last one really scared me. Since he told me that I must admit that it has largely calmed down.
But having said that, we are in the process of selling off our trade stock. I did a show last weekend and was fine. I do take it much more carefully.
So calm down Uncle Nobby....although I am touched by your concern  :thumbsup:

After all my heart problems and fear of doing anything strenuous, I found out just how unfit I am today when I walked through the town centre!
I had previously lost a lot of weight, but have put a fair bit back on.  :(
I'm laying paving slabs tomorrow in the heat, then pumping the bike tyres up.....that should lose a bit!

Tut Tut. Uncle Nobby is not impressed with this at all :no:

(Sorry, Martin)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 19, 2018, 12:10:39 am
Early and late evening sees an interesting and complex series of parcels and mail trains throughout Cornwall.
One such working sees an early evening train from Wadebridge to Truro via Trepol Bay, Newquay, Port Perran and Chacewater.
A single passenger coach is always added at the front but is used mainly by locals travelling to adjacent stations as the entire journey (which involves dropping and collecting coaches and vans at various stations) takes nearly 3 hours for the 28 miles. Leisurely progress indeed!
The train is seen at Trepol Bay behind an Ivatt 2-6-2T and contains vehicles from Penmayne  and Wadebridge. The two vehicles in the bay at Trepol Bay will be added to the train for Truro during a 25 minute layover here.
The two rearmost vehicles are a pparcels carriage for Newquay and a van for Tregonning (both of which will be removed at Newquay):
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-170418191024.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64308[/url])
Some 90 minutes later, the van is seen being reversed into the bay at Tregonning as part of the 19.23 service from Newquay headed (as usual) by a green WR prarie tank :
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-170418191343.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64309[/url])

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 :hellosign: Many thanks Martin, super photos
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on April 19, 2018, 07:36:18 am
 :greatpicturessign: thank you Martin. Always lots to learn from these for novices like myself!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 19, 2018, 04:45:56 pm
Yes, thank you, Martin, for another excellent set of photos. The SR Bogie B and WR BR Standard BG W80725 were, earlier, photographed passing through Cant Cove on their way to Wadebridge with other vehicles which were detached at Wadebridge for Bodmin Road and Exeter.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4sed2tmdmsdqxsk/2018-04-19%2016.45.53.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4sed2tmdmsdqxsk/2018-04-19%2016.45.53.jpg?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qqtetj10iwbet8v/2018-04-19%2016.45.59.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/qqtetj10iwbet8v/2018-04-19%2016.45.59.jpg?dl=0)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 20, 2018, 08:09:01 pm
Further to the photos of the 45xx prarie tank headed for Wadebridge and beyond at Cant Cove yesterday, we see a rare combination of Ivatt 2-6-2T and WR pannier (which exhibits some signs of china clay work) at Trepol Bay with a train to Truro.
Marshalled into the train is the SR Bogie B and WR Standard BG plus the standard brake van seen earlier at Cant Cove.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-200418195904.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64380)
Luckily another photographer was present recording the scene with his cine camera :
https://youtu.be/_XpnZdc6vjA (https://youtu.be/_XpnZdc6vjA)

Later a Standard 4 tank pulls to a halt at Trepol Bay with a train from Wadebridge to Truro whilst a 45xx prarie waits with a train for Newquay:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-200418200510.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64382)

40 minutes later a rather smart T9 (operated by the CLPG) passes with a train of rather elderly SR stock bound for Cant Cove. The N mogul will follow with the parcels train for Wadebridge:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-200418200734.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64383)

Again the scene was captured on cine film
https://youtu.be/UD-oD_1GR4o (https://youtu.be/UD-oD_1GR4o)

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: DaveGlew on April 20, 2018, 08:49:49 pm
Nice quality for 16mm cine  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on April 20, 2018, 10:21:59 pm
Thanks for the photos and videos. Don't comment often but I'm always following this thread. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on April 21, 2018, 09:37:13 am
Further to the photos of the 45xx prarie tank headed for Wadebridge and beyond at Cant Cove yesterday, we see a rare combination of Ivatt 2-6-2T and WR pannier (which exhibits some signs of china clay work) at Trepol Bay with a train to Truro.

Yes, an interesting combination and one requiring a bit of thought about the vacuum brake arrangements.  My guess is that the 'Pannier' is the train engine (in true GWR style) and the brake is on the GWR 25 inches of mercury.

Many thanks for these lovely photographs and the super film.  The 'T9' is a very nice runner and the BR standard headcode for an ordinary passenger train is a realistic addition.

The CLPG people clearly know what they are doing when it comes to the maintenance and operation of a rather elderly steam locomotive.  I look forward to seeing a film of that absolutely gorgeous LNER B12/3 running, once they have worked their magic on it.  Back before the War, I used to see B12/3 locomotives at Brawton working the Harrogate to Hartington passenger trains.  I never got to the bottom of why they came to be allocated to Hartington shed as there were no route availability restrictions on the line requiring a lighter axle-loading or a shorter overall length.

Thanks again and all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 21, 2018, 09:54:49 pm
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign: & super videos Martin, thanks for sharing
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 24, 2018, 08:56:13 pm
Thank you for these latest photos., Martin, of more very interesting trains. Alas, I still do not have any Union Mills locos. (With hindsight, I should have bought them, last year, but I thought they would always be in production.) So, the T9 will have to come off at Wadebridge, which is quite realistic. I will post some photos. of the train of rather elderly SR livery passenger stock bound for Cant Cove and Penmayne, soon. However, there have been plenty of interesting trains photographed at Cant Cove, recently, too.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Hailstone on April 25, 2018, 12:41:07 am
Further to the photos of the 45xx prarie tank headed for Wadebridge and beyond at Cant Cove yesterday, we see a rare combination of Ivatt 2-6-2T and WR pannier (which exhibits some signs of china clay work) at Trepol Bay with a train to Truro.

Yes, an interesting combination and one requiring a bit of thought about the vacuum brake arrangements.  My guess is that the 'Pannier' is the train engine (in true GWR style) and the brake is on the GWR 25 inches of mercury.

Many thanks for these lovely photographs and the super film.  The 'T9' is a very nice runner and the BR standard headcode for an ordinary passenger train is a realistic addition.

The CLPG people clearly know what they are doing when it comes to the maintenance and operation of a rather elderly steam locomotive.  I look forward to seeing a film of that absolutely gorgeous LNER B12/3 running, once they have worked their magic on it.  Back before the War, I used to see B12/3 locomotives at Brawton working the Harrogate to Hartington passenger trains.  I never got to the bottom of why they came to be allocated to Hartington shed as there were no route availability restrictions on the line requiring a lighter axle-loading or a shorter overall length.

Thanks again and all best wishes.

John


Actually, when G W locos ran with any other companies loco or BR standards the Vacuum ran at 21" due to the fact that the Vacuum relief valves on all but GW locos were set to 21" this could be a problem with those GW locos fitted with the Western pattern combination steam/vacuum brake (Panniers, 2251 class, Dukedog, City & 13xx amongst others) as once the vacuum dropped below 15" the steam brake could come in hard, and would not release until the vacuum had been recreated and the brake valve centred, so whoever was doing the braking had to remember to be gentle!

Regards,

Alex 
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 25, 2018, 05:09:37 pm
Thank you for these latest photos., Martin, of more very interesting trains. Alas, I still do not have any Union Mills locos. (With hindsight, I should have bought them, last year, but I thought they would always be in production.) So, the T9 will have to come off at Wadebridge, which is quite realistic. I will post some photos. of the train of rather elderly SR livery passenger stock bound for Cant Cove and Penmayne, soon. However, there have been plenty of interesting trains photographed at Cant Cove, recently, too.
Maybe some of those trains were photographed at Trepol Bay. We shall wait and see.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 25, 2018, 05:12:57 pm
Thank you, Martin. I do very much enjoy 'through' running and try to keep a record of who has what. Some surprises are rumoured to be heading for West and South Cornwall.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on April 25, 2018, 07:10:40 pm
Actually, when G W locos ran with any other companies loco or BR standards the Vacuum ran at 21" due to the fact that the Vacuum relief valves on all but GW locos were set to 21" this could be a problem with those GW locos fitted with the Western pattern combination steam/vacuum brake (Panniers, 2251 class, Dukedog, City & 13xx amongst others) as once the vacuum dropped below 15" the steam brake could come in hard, and would not release until the vacuum had been recreated and the brake valve centred, so whoever was doing the braking had to remember to be gentle!

Regards,

Alex

Many thanks for this, Alex.  I wondered how they would arrange this with the 'Pannier' and the 'Ivatt'.  I understood that there was also a particular problem double-heading with certain GWR classes.  Your excellent explanation has made it all very clear.  A fierce application of the steam brake would certainly give all concerned something to think about, particularly if they stopped with part of their train on the platform and the rest off the end.  I can imagine what the guard would be saying!

To my great shame, I have never been on the footplate of a moving GWR locomotive.  It is an ambition to do something about this.

Thanks again for this super explanation.  I always enjoy hearing about matters Great Western - often a bit different, but for a good reason.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on April 29, 2018, 08:13:22 pm
A Dean Goods (in the care of the CLPG) heads through Trepol Bay with a mixed goods.
 The leading wagon contains two large boulders of Serpentine from the Lizard peninsula. The rocks having been transported to Helston by road and then up to Gwinear Road via the Helston Branch.
If you look carefully, you can see the green tinge to the rocks

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/230-290418201238.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=64772)
The rocks are indeed tiny fragments of real serpentine picked up on the Lizard last week.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on April 29, 2018, 08:35:34 pm
As long as they're not lizards picked up from the Serpentine!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 20, 2018, 07:25:57 pm
Taking a break from working on Tregonning this evening after a day showing our VW camper at a local classic vehicle show.
Anyway, after our evening meal, I ran a few trains this evening.
First we see Standard 4 80130 running into Trepol Bay, working bunker first, at the head of a train of vans from Newquay bound for Wadebridge. A WR small prarie waits with a train at Platform 2 with a Wadebridge train containing a through carriage for Cant Cove.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/230-200518191841.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=65548)
The Standard tank appears to be in excellent condition as it passes the grounded carriage body which houses the Trepol Bay Diner :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/230-200518192026.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=65549)
Trepol Bay takes on more of a Southern Railway feel some 90 minutes later.
N 31811 approaches from Wadebridge with a local service whilst one of the regulat SR pacifics, 34065 Hurricane, waits in the adjacent platform:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/230-200518192313.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=65550)
Again, both locos appear to be in fine fettle:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/230-200518192502.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=65551)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 20, 2018, 07:57:58 pm
Thank you, Martin, for this excellent set of photos. It's always good to see the interesting trains at Trepol Bay. I hope to take some, at Cant Cove, in a week or so, of the connecting services.

No. 80130 and 31811 do both look in immaculate condition. Some local CLPG members must have put in a lot of hard work. Lady Penelope Trevelver must be expected! Exmouth Junction never looked after its N's appearance, alas. Nos. 34065 and 34066 are always kept in excellent condition.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on May 20, 2018, 08:02:21 pm
Many thanks for these super pictures, Martin.  It's good to see 'Trepol Bay' again.  80130 is certainly a jolly nice engine (as are the others, of course!) and a credit to her crew and shed staff.

I hope you (and Bertie) enjoyed your day out.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on May 20, 2018, 09:42:47 pm
Nice bit of evening sun there, Martin. Did I spot Hank Marvin standing in the shadows?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 20, 2018, 09:51:03 pm
Nice bit of evening sun there, Martin. Did I spot Hank Marvin standing in the shadows?
:laughabovepost:

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 21, 2018, 11:07:48 pm
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:  Thanks Martin looking superb as always
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 23, 2018, 06:27:18 pm
A sign of the times at Trepol Bay in 1963 with not a steam engine in sight.
Smelly, oily diesels abound much to the distaste of the steam purists but preferred by the drivers.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/230-230518182338.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=65621)
And a close up of a clean Class 22.
The porter on the platform seems distracted by someone in the train standing at Platform 2:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/230-230518182525.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=65622)
Fear not steam officionafos. Steam is not dead in Cornwall.
The kettles are still simmering away ready in case one of the diesels should disgrace itself.

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on May 23, 2018, 08:29:18 pm
Fear not steam officionafos. Steam is not dead in Cornwall.
The kettles are still simmering away ready in case one of the diesels should disgrace itself.

I think that is more than likely...

I recall reading that, in 1962/63, Swindon cut back on the production of new diesels to have the capacity to repair steam locomotives in order to have motive power available for BR(W) diagrams.  Steam for a little while yet... 

Many thanks for the photographs, diesels notwithstanding!

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 24, 2018, 09:18:18 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks for latest photos Martin, loving the diesels   :thumbsup:
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 25, 2018, 09:26:28 am
Thank you, Martin, for some more excellent photos. Alas, I do not have D6320 among my fleet. Photos. of the diesels in action are promised, soon.

By 1963, everyday BR WR operations were diesel operated but BR SR still maintained steam locos. on all its services. The WR was committed to eliminating its overall financial loss by 1965 and had little time for the ex-SR problems being added to its portfolio of unremunerative branch lines. The 1963 Beeching report proposed widespread closures. Fortunately, in our 'Alternative Cornwall', far more lines and services survived along with large numbers of steam locos. and pre-BR Standard design coaches.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on May 29, 2018, 07:51:23 pm
Now that our guests have departed, I have about 10 days until more arrive so took the opportunity after our evening meal to run a few trains.
Let’s assume, hypothetically that it is 1961 in North West Cornwall and at Trepol Bay in particular.
Traffic is on the decline in the area and as such the line from Truro to Wadebridge (via Chacewater, Port Perran and Trepol Bay) will certainly attract the attention of a certain Doctor.
And why not. Here we have a series of photographs showing that the revenue earning potential of the tailway in the area is a cause of real concern to the accountants.
First we see an N Mogul employed on the morning pick up goods from Newquay to Wadebridge. Just a few years ago, this train would have consisted of well over 20 wagons. But look today....a pitiful load and nothing to be collected at Trepol Bay sad to say. Meanwhile a WC pacific, no less, has charge of the local service from Trepol Bay to Wadebridge and on to Halwil Junction and beyond. I daresay that the one coach train should not tax the loco too much.
Note the T9 just creeping into the photo on the left:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/230-290518193039.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=65836)
An hour or so later another elegant T9, a loco type so synonymous with North Cornwall works into the station with a parcels train headed for Wadebridge. And yes, you have guessed correctly, there is only one van in tow.
The prarie waits with a one coach local for Wadebridge which will amble gently towards its destination stopping at all stations on the way. It is likely that passengers will be somewhat thin on the ground:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/230-290518193530.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=65838)
And the final picture sees an Ivatt tank heading towards Truro with a “freight” from Delabole yard. The train still runs despite their being no wagons to deliver.
A Standard 4 seems to be a little extravagent for the later train to Wadebridge.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/230-290518193912.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=65842)
So....in the eatly 60s things carried on much as they had for years. It was time for change and the railway was in imminent danger of closure. Gone but not forgotten will surely be its epitaph.
However, in our alternative scenario, Dr Beeching and his BR henchmen are to be thwarted.
They hadn’t reckoned with the enormous influence of the Trevelver and Trevarnon families of Cant Cove and Tregonning ably supported by the luminaries of the CLPG, the GWS (Cornwall) and the Association for the Promotion of Cornwall’ Railways.
The power, influence, finance and publicity generated would not only ensure the survival of many of the railways in Cornwall bit would also lead to a dramatic increase in patronage both in terms of passenger journies and freight movements.
Not to mention the long term survival of many locomotive types which otherwise would have been reduced to scrap metal.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on May 29, 2018, 08:37:31 pm
Thank you for these super pictures, Martin.  Your analysis of traffic patterns in 1961 looks absolutely correct to me.  The 1955 strike turned many businesses away from freight transport by railway and ordinary people were starting to get motor cars by the mid-late 'fifties.

The rate of change was increasing...

It's good that some influential people in Cornwall saw that rail had a future.

It was a bit like that in the Highlands.  Influential people, marginal constituencies and bad roads kept the Far North, Kyle and West Highland lines open.  The MoD (as it is now) might just have been influential behind the scenes as well.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 29, 2018, 09:37:31 pm
Many thanks for these excellent but all-too-realistic photos. At its end, the Bude branch saw single coach (a lone Maunsell design carriage) passenger trains worked by a BR Standard 2-6-4T whilst the rest of the North Cornwall line, mainly, saw two-coach trains, although a single ex-GWR coach behind an NB Type 2, offseason, was also seen [photos. to come], before BR WR's DMUs and single unit diesel railcars, mainly, took over. Goods trains, whilst not as long and frequent as they had once been, still loaded quite well until their axing (apart from the china clay, milk, petrol, and fertiliser trains) by BR WR.

In our 'Alternative Cornwall', however, it is a little-known fact that a trip, with the Doctor and his granddaughter, Susan, in the TARDIS, to the abandoned, trackless Wadebridge station yard, in 1982, left such a strong impression on Sylvia Trevelver and Eli Guillou that, on return to Trevelver Castle, they convinced Sylvia's mother and father to do all they could to prevent this becoming reality without (then) explaining why. Later, in 1962, they discovered that the Doctor had, as early as 1949, taken Sylvia's grandmother on a similar trip to the same place and time galvanising the future Dowager Lady Trevelver to ensure that, in Cornwall, the integrated road and rail transport system (with integrated ticketing and timetabling) expected of the British Transport Commission actually occurred.

Like her redoubtable mother, Lady Penelope Trevelver, was a great supporter of the Southern Railway and its successor BR SR; whilst her husband followed in his long-established family tradition of believing that the Great Western Railway and its successor was the epitome of all that a railway should be. Being great friends with the Trevarnon family of Tregonning, Lord Trevelver worked with them to support the founding of the Cornwall branches of the Great Western Society to preserve the best of the GWR and BR WR, whilst Lady Trevelver did the same for the Cornish Locomotive Preservation Group (CLPG) which soon expanded beyond preserving locomotives to do the same for the LSWR, SR and BR SR through its local branches whilst becoming known simply as the CLPG. The Trevarnons and Trevelvers also helped to found and encourage the success of the Association for the Promotion of Cornwall’s Railways which worked with all important local organisations to strengthen the use and promotion of an integrated rail transport system.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on May 30, 2018, 07:02:08 am
galvanising the future Dowager Lady Trevelver to ensure that, in Cornwall, the integrated road and rail transport system (with integrated ticketing and timetabling) expected of the British Transport Commission actually occurred.
Much like the TAG system introduced in the late 80s in Grenoble.  You time stamped a ticket when you got on a bus or tram and it could then be used on any tram or bus for up to one hour.  The only exception was that it couldn't be used on the same line twice to prevent use as a return ticket.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 30, 2018, 07:50:03 am
Such integrated transport systems have long been the norm on the Continent. When I lived in Frankfurt-am-Main, I had a monthly FVV ticket which covered all public transport within the greater city limits. Prague has a similar system.

Co-ordinated public transport came to the U.K., apart from London, far later than it should have done. The vision was there in 1948 but it was never properly implemented. I suspect thanks to the 'road lobby'.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 12, 2018, 11:50:45 am
The holidaymakers aboard the motor coach passing over Trepol Bay rail bridge get a good view of proceedings on the railway below.
Some 51000Lbs of tractive effort lifts a short train away from the station towards Wadebridge.
Now......this is an unusual train as a second Standard Class 4 has been allocated to the area after a successful trial with the original locomotive.
Initially the rather dyed in the wool footplatemen in the area were reluctant to work with the Standard 4 tank but had grown to like and respect the locomotive.
The new arrival having worked up to North Cornwall via the GW main line to Truro was quickly put to work on the line between Truro, Trepol Bay and Wadebridge and also on the withered arm towards Exeter.
Interestingly, the harbour branch is very unusually being worked by an ex GW prarie tank today.
Presumably, the usual Class 04 diesel shunter is out of service.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/230-120618115038.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=66390)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 12, 2018, 12:40:57 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another very nice photo. The second BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4T is 80041 with a Late BR Crest and allocated (like all the North Cornwall ones, to 72A, Exmouth Junction, where it arrived in June 1962). After transfer to the WR as 83D September 1963, No. 80041 left Exmouth Junction for 83G Templecombe in May 1965 where it stayed until March 1966.

The preserved by the GWS (Port Perran), specially cleaned, 45xx 2-6-2T in BR Unlined Black Early Crest livery, No. 4554, has come up from 83F (Truro, where it was allocated from August 1950 to May 1958 before transfer to 83G Penzance from where it was withdrawn in August 1958). After withdrawal, No. 4554 was stored before being sent to Newton Abbot Works for a Heavy General overhaul, paid for by the GWS's local sponsors, then allocated to 83F, on an operating lease, for use as agreed, but sub-shedded at Port Perran shed where it is very well looked after. [The last British Rail steam engine to be overhauled in the Newton Abbot workshops was ex-GWR 4500 Class number 4566, outshopped on 15 July 1966.]

Good to see the "Seagull Coaches" luxury motor coach taking tourists out to enjoy Cornwall, too.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on June 12, 2018, 09:09:07 pm
Thank you very much for that lovely photograph.  It looks like a very nice Cornish evening.  It's my understanding that the BR '4MT' 2-6-4Ts were generally popular with the enginemen.  The late Derek Cross called them 'Vultures', as they had a tendency to appear on branch lines just prior to closure.  I certainly hope that this is not the case at Trepol Bay.

The out of service diesel locomotive is not a surprise, but the 'Prairie' will be a delightful substitute.  I like the 'Prairie' tank engines - the smaller the better.  The straight tank 'forty-fives' are my favourite.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 14, 2018, 09:04:17 pm
So....after just over two weeks of relatives visiting and me visiting and collecting said relatives and subsequently returning them to Wiltshire, life returns to normal in our little cottage.
The guest room will revert to a railway room tomorrow with Trepol Bay back in full action and Tregonning’s case opened up again for further work.
Irritatingly, somehow over the last week, I’ve mahanged to get a cluster of insect bites on my right leg which have become infected leaving the area rather sore.
I’m on a three week round of strong antibiotics just to be sure nothing nasty develops so no alcohol for a while.
Grrrrrrr......
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: AlexanderJesse on June 14, 2018, 09:13:09 pm
Leg ... infection ... 3 week antibio...
I know that is definetely something nobody wants!

All the best and get well.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 14, 2018, 09:14:31 pm
That sounds nasty, Martin. I hope your right leg heals fully, soon. Isn't there any soothing cream you can spread on the sore area?

Looking forward to seeing Trepol Bay back in full action and further detailing work on Tregonning. There should be more through trains, plus the "Seagull Coaches" Bedford OB Coach.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 14, 2018, 09:16:41 pm
Thank you very much for that lovely photograph.  It looks like a very nice Cornish evening.  It's my understanding that the BR '4MT' 2-6-4Ts were generally popular with the enginemen.  The late Derek Cross called them 'Vultures', as they had a tendency to appear on branch lines just prior to closure.  I certainly hope that this is not the case at Trepol Bay.

The out of service diesel locomotive is not a surprise, but the 'Prairie' will be a delightful substitute.  I like the 'Prairie' tank engines - the smaller the better.  The straight tank 'forty-fives' are my favourite.

John

The BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4Ts are, probably, my favourite steam locos. There should be a parade of 45xx 'straight tanks' at Cant Cove, this summer. My favourite GWR tank locos., though, are the 4575s and 14xxs.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on June 14, 2018, 09:17:51 pm
I remember, in 1983, I had a nasty bite on my left leg, just below the knee and it turned into a carbuncle.  Just before I went off to my first Summer School.  Antibiotics were definitely needed.  I still have the scar.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on June 14, 2018, 09:28:42 pm
It's nice to have visitors but even better to get rid of them. :D
I was attacked by several ticks recently. My doctor recommended an antibiotic cream 3 times daily for a fortnight. It worked and I didn't have to give up the essential liquid. :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on June 14, 2018, 09:35:00 pm
I'm very sorry to hear this, Martin and hope that the antibiotics sort it out.

I'm in Berwick-upon-Tweed tomorrow on 1:1 scale (or is it gauge?!) railway business.  When this is complete, I'll have a 'swift half' (or two) overlooking the Tweed and toast your return to full health.  That first glass of red wine after you have finished with the antibiotics will be simply wonderful...

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 15, 2018, 07:09:41 am
Blimey, no vino for a while!  :'(

Hope that it all clears up quickly, looking forward to the next updates.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: AlexanderJesse on June 15, 2018, 08:19:48 am
Blimey, no vino for a while!  :'(

Hope that it all clears up quickly, looking forward to the next updates.
And no beer during the football worldchampionships...
and NO CIDER
 :ouch:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Leon on June 15, 2018, 04:28:59 pm
Martin, I read a lot of the dialogue in this Forum, much of which is very helpful. Most, however, is rather intimadating for a newbie - especially one from outside the UK. I DO hope to learn more about the history of the British rail system and the equipment operating on it, but I'll never be able to enter into the dialogue of those who are so well informed.

Can anyone tell me if Warwick was in the GWR system?

Leon
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on June 15, 2018, 05:37:00 pm
Can anyone tell me if Warwick was in the GWR system?
Warwick was a GWR station just West of Leaming Spa General.  There was also Leamington Spa Milverton (for Warwick) which was on the LMS line from Leamington Spa Avenue to Kenilworth and Coventry.  Warwick station was at the foot of Hatton Bank and was only a local station, so the UP expresses thundered through it, usually with the brakes full on, hoping to stop at Leamington Spa General.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 15, 2018, 06:22:57 pm
Leamington Spa General.

Welcome Leon. We're always happy to answer any questions although we each have our individual areas of specific interest and knowledge.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on June 15, 2018, 06:44:13 pm
I'm very sorry to hear this, Martin and hope that the antibiotics sort it out.

I'm in Berwick-upon-Tweed tomorrow on 1:1 scale (or is it gauge?!) railway business.  When this is complete, I'll have a 'swift half' (or two) overlooking the Tweed and toast your return to full health.  That first glass of red wine after you have finished with the antibiotics will be simply wonderful...

Best wishes.

John


I did as I promised (hope you felt better immediately afterwards).  I also took a photograph for you as I know you like fully scenic layouts.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/6222-150618183751.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=66463)

I think the join between the two viaduct kits has been nicely done, but the single fat pier in the middle rather gives the game away!

With all good wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 15, 2018, 09:20:39 pm
Many thanks for the good wishes everyone and a fabulous photo John.
The leg feels much better today (already) but still looks as if it’s been chewed then microwaved.
Anyway....3 days in with no alcohol so far.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on June 15, 2018, 09:35:26 pm
Is the chewing from lack of alcohol? ;D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 16, 2018, 07:03:42 am
 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Masher69 on June 16, 2018, 09:17:16 am
Lovely photo - the home town. Amazing how many people say "wow" on the train when approaching Berwick from the south and the bay opens up with the view over to the town walls. Just a shame about the state of the high street but the bottom end of the town is very vibrant and makes up for it!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Bealman on June 16, 2018, 09:34:40 am
Berwick is a lovely town. The border bridge always seemed big to me when I was a kid, but it's still good to see a pic.  :thumbsup:

Had a few beers there a few years ago.

I didn't realise the leg problem was real! Sorry!  :-[

Hope all is going well.  :beers:

George
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on June 16, 2018, 08:30:34 pm
A rare glimpse of the acticity in and around Trepol Bay harbour this morning as a prarie tank works its short train having very cautiously descended the incline down from the main line.
Meanwhile a Standard 5 departs the station with a special working towards Wadebridge.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/230-160618203025.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=66499)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 16, 2018, 09:10:54 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent photo. showing some of the goods stock photographed leaving Cant Cove arriving. A photo. of the BR Standard Class 5MT 4-6-0 73xxx with RFO S9, RMB S1849, the three FKs S13143, S13003, and S13086, together with BCK S21275 returning through Cant Cove, after arriving at Penmayne, as two separate trains, from Trepol Bay have now been posted. Here is one:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2018-06-17%2012.07.06_zpszuf4g8ji.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2018-06-17%2012.07.06_zpszuf4g8ji.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 19, 2018, 11:16:13 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks for the latest photos Martin & hope the leg is much better
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 03, 2018, 05:22:35 pm
A photograph has finally emerged of the brake van special conveying members of the visiting Scottish Locomotive Preservation Group to Trepol Bay.
A 64xx tank gentle takes the special (which includes an additional brakevan conveying members of the local Trepol Bay branch of the CLPG) very, very gently down the incline to the harbour lines.
Motor coaches conveying other members of the CLPG from across West Cornwall can be seen arriving whilst on the main line a WC pacific heads a local train away from Trepol Bay towards Wadebridge containing a through carriage for Penmayne.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-030718172014.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67180)
Note to self - I really must get around to fixing the dip in the road on the way down from the bridge!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 03, 2018, 06:19:56 pm
Many thanks, Martin. Good to see the Scottish visitors' (Perthshire RPS) brake van ride with their CLPG colleagues, plus the silver "Seagull" Coach, as well as the BR one on a non-scheduled service. The "J&W Stuart" van has a long journey home ahead of it.

No doubt, invigorated by the sea air, the enthusiasts will be adjourning to the "Station Hotel", Trepol Bay, before returning to Cant Cove on a scheduled passenger service.

No. 34065 "Spitfire" has a BR WR Collett design coach (booked by a party of visiting tourists travelling from Truro) plus a BR SR BR Standard three-coach set of BSK plus CK plus BSK. The WR Collett coach will be attached to the next local train at Wadebridge for the short journey to Penmayne where they will be staying.

The sun shines brightly, this June 1961.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on July 03, 2018, 07:18:41 pm
That's a lovely photograph, Martin.  Many thanks.

I expect that the visiting enthusiasts will be delighted to see BoB 'Pacific' 34065 'Hurricane' passing.

A good one for them to underline in their 'ABC's!

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 03, 2018, 08:05:14 pm
Bulleid Light Pacific 'Battle of Britain' Class locos. 34065 "Hurricane" and 34066 "Spitfire" in BR Green Early Crest livery and their tenders in original unmodified condition are frequent visitors to North and West Cornwall. Unfortunately, "Spitfire" is not considered as good a loco. as its classmate.

Additionally, 34064 "Fighter Command" in BR Green Late Crest livery, with its tender in modified condition, but also kept in immaculate condition by CLPG volunteer cleaners, can be seen in North Cornwall. Both "Fighter Command" and "Hurricane" were transferred to Exmouth Junction (72A) in May 1959 following electrification in S.E. Kent. "Spitfire", transferred for the same reason, did not arrive at 72A until January 1961.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on July 03, 2018, 09:14:19 pm
Bulleid Light Pacific 'Battle of Britain' Class locos. 34065 "Hurricane" and 34066 "Spitfire" in BR Green Early Crest livery and their tenders in original unmodified condition are frequent visitors to North and West Cornwall. Unfortunately, "Spitfire" is not considered as good a loco. as its classmate.

Additionally, 34064 "Fighter Command" in BR Green Late Crest livery, with its tender in modified condition, but also kept in immaculate condition by CLPG volunteer cleaners, can be seen in North Cornwall. Both "Fighter Command" and "Hurricane" were transferred to Exmouth Junction (72A) in May 1959 following electrification in S.E. Kent. "Spitfire", transferred for the same reason, did not arrive at 72A until January 1961.

Exmouth Junction has been up to some unofficial tender-swapping, of course, as 34065 was one of the few Light Pacifics that had the tender cut down early on.  In 1952, I think. 

I might be wrong, but I think that 34064 and '65 had only a brief time at Stewarts Lane and were both at Nine Elms in the mid 'fifties and then went from there to Exmouth Junction.  Following a short period at Ramsgate, 34066 was a Stewarts Lane stalwart until it made its way west in 1961.  Unfortunately, it was involved in the Lewisham disaster in 1957.

Once I get all my books back in place after the interior decoration escapade, I'll be able to check!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 03, 2018, 09:58:49 pm
Good evening, John, according to my reference book ("Shed by Shed" Part Five), 34064 was not at Stewarts Lane (73A) but was at Nine Elms (70A) 8/50-5/59 and, again, 5/62-12/63. 34065 was at Nine Elms (70A) 8/50-5/51, 6/52-6/54, and 6/55-5/59. It was at Stewarts Lane 6/54-6/55. 34066 was not at Nine Elms but was at Stewarts Lane 8/50-1/61. None of these three locos. were at Ramsgate (73G from 10/58).
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on July 04, 2018, 09:28:59 am
Good evening, John, according to my reference book ("Shed by Shed" Part Five), 34064 was not at Stewarts Lane (73A) but was at Nine Elms (70A) 8/50-5/59 and, again, 5/62-12/63. 34065 was at Nine Elms (70A) 8/50-5/51, 6/52-6/54, and 6/55-5/59. It was at Stewarts Lane 6/54-6/55. 34066 was not at Nine Elms but was at Stewarts Lane 8/50-1/61. None of these three locos. were at Ramsgate (73G from 10/58).

Many thanks, Chris.  That's helpful.

I thought 'Hurricane' was at Nine Elms before going west and that 'Spitfire' was at Stewarts Lane.  Your reference confirms this.  I have an inkling that 'Hurricane' was also at Stratford whilst the 'Britannias' were out of action.  I look forward to being able to get back into the book room as this fascinating matter has raised other questions in my head!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 04, 2018, 10:02:31 am
hi does this help ?


http://www.brdatabase.info/ (http://www.brdatabase.info/)

http://svsfilm.com/nineelms/coulson.htm (http://svsfilm.com/nineelms/coulson.htm)

https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/archive-exhibitions/battle-of-britain-class-locomotive-plates/locomotive-biographies.aspx (https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/archive-exhibitions/battle-of-britain-class-locomotive-plates/locomotive-biographies.aspx)


pardon the pun may shed some light
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 04, 2018, 10:46:42 am
I hope Martin won't mind a bit further discussion on these three Bulleid Light Pacifics, two of which he has.

The definitive book, I believe, is "The Book of the West Country and Battle of Britain Pacifics" by Richard Derry (2008) Irwell Press, which I bought to research which tenders these three locos. should have in the late 1950s-1960s. On pp34-35 it lists which tenders each had, respectively 3314, 3316, and 3317. You are quite correct, 34065 was one of three whose tenders were cut-down, in 1952, to remove the 'raves' which hindered taking on coal and water. No more tenders were altered until 1957 when rebuilding of the locos. commenced.

No. 34064 "Fighter Command" had a cut-down 8ft. 6in. wide 4,500 gallon tender in 1962; so that it what mine should have.

"Fighter Command" went, new, to Ramsgate then Stewarts Lane 8/1/49, Nine Elms 14/3/50, Exmouth Junction 14/6/59, Nine Elms 28/5/62, and Eastleigh, 6/1/64. It was withdrawn: 22/5/66. [In our 'Alternative Cornwall', it was then preserved, following a Heavy General Overhaul at Eastleigh Works, by the CLPG, Cant Cove.] It always kept tender No. 3314.

"Hurricane" also went, new, to Ramsgate then Stewarts Lane 8/1/49, Nine Elms 14/3/50, Stratford [you were correct, John], 12/5/51, Nine Elms 17/5/52, Stewarts Lane 22/6/54, Nine Elms 21/6/55, and Exmouth Junction 14/6/59. It was withdrawn: 4/64. [In our 'Alternative Cornwall', it was then preserved, following a Heavy General Overhaul at Eastleigh Works, by the CLPG being, alternately based at Cant Cove and Trepol Bay.] It began with tender No. 3316 but this was replaced with 3280 at Eastleigh Works, 25/8/50.

"Spitfire", too, went, new, to Ramsgate then Stewarts Lane but 12/12/49, where it remained for years before transfer to Exmouth Junction 10/2/61 where it stayed until its final move to Salisbury, 14/9/64. It was withdrawn: 10/9/66. [In our 'Alternative Cornwall', it was then preserved, following a Heavy General Overhaul at Eastleigh Works, by the CLPG being, alternately based at Cant Cove and Trepol Bay.] It always kept tender No. 3317.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 04, 2018, 03:50:08 pm
Here is the 10.15 from Wadebridge, unusually headed by an 'N' instead of a Bulleid Light Pacific and formed, again, unusually, of a mixed livery Maunsell 2P Set plus a WR Lined Maroon Collett design CK, conveying a party of rail enthusiasts travelling to Penmayne, added to the train which had started at Truro. (This is the same coach photographed, earlier, at Trepol Bay, behind 34065 "Hurricane" and coupled ahead of a BR SR Green set.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20180704_134003_zpsjb3u7jla.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20180704_134003_zpsjb3u7jla.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/chrisinprague008/20180704_134042_zps9upd9r4s.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/chrisinprague008/20180704_134042_zps9upd9r4s.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 04, 2018, 04:37:25 pm
lovely memories, fantastic shots
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 04, 2018, 04:59:12 pm
We return to Saturday morning. The 12.15am departure from London (Waterloo) had arrived at Wadebridge just after 7.00am whereupon a portion was worked forward to Penmayne and an additional portion worked through to Trepol Bay.
This latter portion departed Wadebridge at 07.36 headed by a clean N Coass mogul. The leading two carriages (BCK and SK) form the Trepol Bay portion of the Waterloo train whilst a third carriage has been added to work through to Truro.
First we see the train having arrived at Trepol Bay at 08.03

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-040718165620.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67207)
And the same train viewed from another angle
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-040718165740.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67208)
Finally, a close up of 31811 in front of the signal box (note the signalman’s bicycle)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-040718165903.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67209)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 04, 2018, 05:47:25 pm
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent set of photos. The lucky passengers can enjoy a cooked breakfast of fresh Cornish produce served by the crew of the Mini Buffet (RMB) behind the 'N' on the long journey to Truro. Due to the vagaries of English alcohol licencing laws, once the train is in motion, the more intrepid passengers can also enjoy something alcoholic to wash down their breakfast whilst they admire the Cornish scenery!

Good to see the harbour area very busy, as always.

The differing shades of BR Green on the BR Standard coaches are quite prototypical as the green tended to fade in the sun. The leading vehicle, S1849, one of the SR's new RMB Mini Buffets (S1849-52, built in 1960) is still in ex-works condition and is much appreciated after the old BR / Maunsell Buffet / Restaurant cars [I plan to have a kit-built one, later].
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Leon on July 04, 2018, 08:19:03 pm
Martin, where did you source 31811? Nice looking loco.

Leon
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 04, 2018, 08:25:59 pm
Martin, where did you source 31811? Nice looking loco.

Leon
Hi Leon.
It’s a Graham Farish loco available, I bellieve, at many of the usual retailers eg
https://www.track-shack.com/acatalog/Graham-Farish-372-931-N-Gauge-N-Class-2-6-0-31844-BR-Black-Early-Emblem-Graham-Farish-372-931.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw4PHZBRA-EiwAAas4Zrm1zxa_FNx5Zhl7f3ifo8vU-XXcncNg0TzQfbVxTYlGd_c7EM7H0RoCis4QAvD_BwE (https://www.track-shack.com/acatalog/Graham-Farish-372-931-N-Gauge-N-Class-2-6-0-31844-BR-Black-Early-Emblem-Graham-Farish-372-931.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw4PHZBRA-EiwAAas4Zrm1zxa_FNx5Zhl7f3ifo8vU-XXcncNg0TzQfbVxTYlGd_c7EM7H0RoCis4QAvD_BwE)
It is indeed a lovely loco. Don’t remember seeing any at Westbury although the similar (and larger)Us and S15 classes did appear. 
Martin
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Leon on July 04, 2018, 08:53:39 pm
Martin, as you know, I'm ignorant of most railroad history (though I'm reading a lot, I'll never know much). Was your locomotive a carry-over from grouping, or was it designed and built after? This is the kind of loco I have in mind for mainline goods hauling. I can't find any GWR locos that appeal to me for that job.

Leon
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 04, 2018, 08:57:27 pm
This should help
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SECR_N_class
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on July 04, 2018, 09:50:13 pm
These are particularly agreeable photographs, Martin, and show off your clever 'three-step-levels' layout design very well.  Making the harbour a prominent foreground and placing the main conventional railway interest to the rear of the scene makes Trepol Bay an interesting master class in layout design.

I note that, although it is Saturday morning, George is busy shunting the harbour sidings.  I hope he is allowed to clock off at lunchtime with it being Saturday.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 05, 2018, 10:52:47 am
The 'N' Class 2-6-0s were, originally, an SECR design but were adopted by the Southern Railway (which absorbed the SECR) and used all over its network. They were not only used on goods trains but also some passenger trains, too, Leon.

There were many variations within the class. I have two models of the same No. 31811 that Martin has. One has already been renumbered 31849 (of 72A Exmouth Junction, which supplied the Ns used in North Cornwall) and the other will be renumbered as 31850 (also of 72A).

Graham Farish have announced a new N Class 2-6-0 No. 31810 BR Black Late Crest but Factory Weathered and I may well add that (but, probably renumbered) as, in real life, the Ns tended to be pretty dirty externally. Other Ns are available in BR Early Crest, SECR Grey, and Southern Railway liveries and there will even be a very expensive N Class 2-6-0 No. 1823 in Southern Railway Lined Maunsell Green livery with DCC Sound.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 05, 2018, 04:01:53 pm
Leon.
You might be interested in this if you haven’t already seen it.
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41178.0;topicseen (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41178.0;topicseen)
Us are very similar in shape and style to Ns.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on July 07, 2018, 06:33:25 pm
Many thanks, Martin. Good to see the Scottish visitors' (Perthshire RPS) brake van ride with their CLPG colleagues, plus the silver "Seagull" Coach, as well as the BR one on a non-scheduled service. The "J&W Stuart" van has a long journey home ahead of it.

No doubt, invigorated by the sea air, the enthusiasts will be adjourning to the "Station Hotel", Trepol Bay, before returning to Cant Cove on a scheduled passenger service.

No. 34065 "Spitfire" has a BR WR Collett design coach (booked by a party of visiting tourists travelling from Truro) plus a BR SR BR Standard three-coach set of BSK plus CK plus BSK. The WR Collett coach will be attached to the next local train at Wadebridge for the short journey to Penmayne where they will be staying.

The sun shines brightly, this June 1961.

With the copious amounts of Sam's Cider and never empty glasses ... the visitors from Scotland don't know if they are PRPS or SLPG .... they just know that they are well preserved for the moment :)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 09, 2018, 08:13:28 am
These are particularly agreeable photographs, Martin, and show off your clever 'three-step-levels' layout design very well.  Making the harbour a prominent foreground and placing the main conventional railway interest to the rear of the scene makes Trepol Bay an interesting master class in layout design.

I note that, although it is Saturday morning, George is busy shunting the harbour sidings.  I hope he is allowed to clock off at lunchtime with it being Saturday.

John
Indeed he is. George is well liked and respected amongst his handlers and is treated to a large bunch of carrots on a Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 09, 2018, 05:34:33 pm
The slightly late running 15.25 (ex Truro)  parcels departs Trepol Bay today at 16.32pm (some 7 minutes late) heading for Wadebridge.
The Ivatt 2-6-2  tanks were, to my eye, splendid machines. The N Class mogul standing at Platform 2 will follow at 16.50 with a train for Wadebridge and Penmayne.
A truly North Cornish scene which epitomises the character of the Ex LSWR line in the early 1960s.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-090718172936.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67304)
Note the colourful array of carriage stock which I think adds to the picture.
And....as I like the Mickey Mouse tanks so much, a close up shot

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-090718173115.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67305)
I think the lightly weathered look (as bought) only adds to the character of this little loco.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 09, 2018, 08:31:21 pm
Thank you, Martin, for this pair of excellent photos. I have to admit I do like the very light weathering on Ivatt 2-6-2T 41310.

41275 and 41295 (the Ivatts shedded at Wadebridge shed, 72F/84E) were only allocated there from January 1963 to June 1964. Also used were 41272 (the 7,000th engine built at Crewe) and 41320. Of course, Exmouth Junction (72A) had others before 1963.

I hope, next week, to post some related photos.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on July 09, 2018, 08:38:22 pm
Many thanks for these photographs which have a splendid 'everyday' look.  Nothing fancy; just the railway going about its business.

I agree with you about the '2MT' tank engines.  I think Mr Ivatt is under-rated as a locomotive engineer.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 09, 2018, 09:15:43 pm
I’ve never shown an overall video of Trepol Bay befors so here’s a Union Mills T9 passing through at the head of the daily schools train
https://youtu.be/IIs3VYeoiUo
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on July 09, 2018, 09:36:37 pm
Thanks for the video. It looks a great place to live. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: chrispearce on July 10, 2018, 07:29:20 pm
Dear Martin,
I have just come back from a fantastic 9 days holiday staying with my Mother in Chacewater. What with Quad-biking at Blackwater, taking my inflatable Kayak out on Stithians Reservoir, hiring a motor boat from Mylor and exploring the Carrick Roads, walking the old Tresavean Branch in the heat plus many lovely meals out at the Pandora and other places I am VERY brown!
I have a question about Carharrick. I drove through it on my way back from Falmouth and just beyond the village store I saw a road sign proclaiming "HIGHER RAILWAY TERRACE". This baffled me a bit as I didn't know of any railway that ran there. The nearest the mainline gets is at Hallenbeagle. I did see a bit further on in St. Day a small black very narrow gauge mining tub next to the road and wondered if the railway referred to was a very old tramway for the nearby mines? Is this right? I'm sure you are the very man to clarify this for me.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 10, 2018, 08:21:02 pm
Hi Chris
Glad you enjoyed your break, you could have called in had I known.
Now....the Redruth & Chasewater Railway (note the spelling of Chasewater with an S!) was a narrow gauge  railway serving the mining district around Redruth (inc  St Day, Lanner & Carharrack).
It was originally horse drawn but aquired 3 steam locos ( Miner, Smelter and Spitfire) in the mid 1800s.
The line effectively ran from Portreath on the North coast to Devoran on the S Coast with a spur to Redruth.
Coal was imported via  Portreath and timber (via ship from Norway) via Devoran. Hence the Norway Inn at Perranarworthal which you may have seen.
Anyway, with the decline of the copper and tin mining industry in the early 1900s the whole railway closed in 1915.
Remnants survive including an old iron footbridge just 50 yds from our back door. The line actually ran past our cottage but it’s now a road.
Carharrack had a coal depot in the centre (still standing) and a small railway yard. The line ran through the village from NW to SE on its way to Devoran via the Poldice valley. The old stone setts (sleepers) are still visible in many places.
The line ran roght along Higher RailwY Terrace.
All fascinating stuff. I could go on but I think I’ve given you a sense of the old railway.
Regards
Martin
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: chrispearce on July 11, 2018, 06:02:05 am
Thanks Martin. I am well aware of the Redruth and Chasewater Railway but details of it are always rather scant. I know it's main places and have cycled from Portreath to Devoran and seen things like the old loco depot (now the surgery) at Devoran and seen the stone setts by the garages in Redruth where the original station was. However, it's sidings etc. I have never been able to find out much about but now I have! Thank you very much for that.
Sadly, my shoulders have begun to peel this morning. I need moisturiser!
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: chrispearce on July 11, 2018, 06:21:59 am
As I said before I walked the Tresavean Branch. I fund an ancient rusty rail spike at the top of the incline in a bush so it now sits on my Mum's patio as local heritage. Near Lanner there was a flat crossing and stone transfer shed where some masts are now. This line went to Buller Mine. Was that another branch of the R&C as well?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on July 11, 2018, 06:26:54 am
I fund an ancient rusty rail spike at the top of the incline in a bush so it now sits on my Mum's patio as local heritage.
How much is the fund worth, these days?  :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 11, 2018, 09:02:42 am
Yes, Tresavean was a branchline.
It was all very interesting 150 years ago.
It is amazing to think that only just over 100 years ago, steam locos rattled past our back door only 15 feet away.
There is an excellent Bradford Barton pamphlet available which is very informative. You can usually find it second hand for a few pounds.
Interesting that although it was called the Redruth and Chasewater Railway, it never reached Chacewater. And, of course, the directors spelled Chacewater wrongly with an S in the middle instead of a C.
If only the whole complex of tracks was still in existence today.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: chrispearce on July 11, 2018, 03:22:27 pm
I fund an ancient rusty rail spike at the top of the incline in a bush so it now sits on my Mum's patio as local heritage.
How much is the fund worth, these days?  :D
HOHOHO! Very funny Sir. It was early this morning and I seem to have missed the 'o'. I take it you were an English Teacher? :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on July 11, 2018, 05:19:23 pm
I fund an ancient rusty rail spike at the top of the incline in a bush so it now sits on my Mum's patio as local heritage.
How much is the fund worth, these days?  :D
HOHOHO! Very funny Sir. It was early this morning and I seem to have missed the 'o'. I take it you were an English Teacher? :D
I'm suitably chastised, even though I was a nuclear physicist. :-[
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 11, 2018, 06:22:03 pm
Here’s a picture of the old iron footbridge over the former R&C trackbed just a 100yds or so from our door.
Unfortunately somewhat overgrown but at least it still exists

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-110718182116.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67364)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-110718182157.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67365)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: chrispearce on July 11, 2018, 06:59:06 pm
I fund an ancient rusty rail spike at the top of the incline in a bush so it now sits on my Mum's patio as local heritage.
How much is the fund worth, these days?  :D
HOHOHO! Very funny Sir. It was early this morning and I seem to have missed the 'o'. I take it you were an English Teacher? :D
I'm suitably chastised, even though I was a nuclear physicist. :-[
:goggleeyes:A nuclear physicist? Wow. Now THAT is an interesting subject. I have read a bit and it does get all rather complex :uneasy:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 12, 2018, 10:18:18 pm
I’ve never shown an overall video of Trepol Bay befors so here’s a Union Mills T9 passing through at the head of the daily schools train
https://youtu.be/IIs3VYeoiUo

:hellosign: Thanks for the video Martin, looking excellent as always.
       Also thanks for the fascinating history of the old R&C
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 13, 2018, 08:42:35 pm
I ran a few trains this evening and couldn’t resist this shot of the local 04 shunter making a rare appearance on the main line.
She is normally confined to working the harbour lines but looks very nice enjoying a little jaunt through the station

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-130718204227.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67423)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: railsquid on July 14, 2018, 01:50:26 am
I fund an ancient rusty rail spike at the top of the incline in a bush so it now sits on my Mum's patio as local heritage.
How much is the fund worth, these days?  :D
HOHOHO! Very funny Sir. It was early this morning and I seem to have missed the 'o'. I take it you were an English Teacher? :D
I'm suitably chastised, even though I was a nuclear physicist. :-[
:goggleeyes:A nuclear physicist? Wow. Now THAT is an interesting subject. I have read a bit and it does get all rather complex :uneasy:
Well it's not exactly rocket science :P
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: chrispearce on July 14, 2018, 10:17:12 am
I fund an ancient rusty rail spike at the top of the incline in a bush so it now sits on my Mum's patio as local heritage.
How much is the fund worth, these days?  :D
HOHOHO! Very funny Sir. It was early this morning and I seem to have missed the 'o'. I take it you were an English Teacher? :D

Just as an afterthought - as I claim to fund something in a bush I wonder if this could be regarded as a hedge fund?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: chrispearce on July 14, 2018, 12:13:13 pm
I fund an ancient rusty rail spike at the top of the incline in a bush so it now sits on my Mum's patio as local heritage.
How much is the fund worth, these days?  :D
HOHOHO! Very funny Sir. It was early this morning and I seem to have missed the 'o'. I take it you were an English Teacher? :D
I'm suitably chastised, even though I was a nuclear physicist. :-[
:goggleeyes:A nuclear physicist? Wow. Now THAT is an interesting subject. I have read a bit and it does get all rather complex :uneasy:
Well it's not exactly rocket science :P
You are right. No weight/thrust ratio, no solid fuel, no thrust vectoring, no guidance system. No, it's not rocket science.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Innovationgame on July 14, 2018, 04:06:58 pm
 :offtopicsign:
In fact, it was only applied nuclear physics.  I was a neutron scatterer.  Now let's get back to the real business of the topic, for Martin's sake.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: chrispearce on July 15, 2018, 09:34:27 am
:offtopicsign:
In fact, it was only applied nuclear physics.  I was a neutron scatterer.  Now let's get back to the real business of the topic, for Martin's sake.
Still a seriously interesting subject. You must be a VERY brainy guy. I don't, however, understand what a neutron scatterer is. If someone told me it was a piece of machinery like a gas diffuser for enriching Uranium I could begin to understand that. I must, therefore, assume that if you can scatter neutrons then you must have exquisite fine-finger skills. That must explain your modelling finesse! :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Bealman on July 15, 2018, 10:08:03 am
I taught nuclear physics to senior high school students for many years, and my daughter is head of the medical radiation physics department of Darwin hospital.

But please let's get back on topic!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Caz on July 15, 2018, 07:32:50 pm
Here's something you West Country folks might be interest in, "The Cornishman" with  2 Class 22's at the head.

THE CORNISHMAN.   For many years the 09.15 Wolverhampton - Penzance had been worked from Plymouth by a Penzance Hall 4-6-0 but by 1960 the turn had been taken over by a pair of North British Type 2 diesel hydraulics - a class notorious for such a high failure rate that they had to be run in pairs on passenger services.

6321 and 6318 are seen backing onto the service at Plymouth having taken over from the Newton Abbot Castle 4-6-0 which had brought the train in from Bristol.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/202-150718192525.png)


https://www.facebook.com/groups/divman/permalink/1010418669128231/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/divman/permalink/1010418669128231/)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 15, 2018, 08:13:16 pm
To be fair, pairs of Type 2s were booked until their larger cousins, the Type 4 "Warships" were available, instead.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: chrispearce on July 15, 2018, 11:31:25 pm
To be fair, pairs of Type 2s were booked until their larger cousins, the Type 4 "Warships" were available, instead.

Do you mean the original warships? I read that they were very unreliable and spent a lot of their time sandwiched between a steam loco and the train they were supposed to be pulling. The Class 42 acquired the 'Warship' moniker aftr their demise.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 16, 2018, 06:29:49 am
To be fair, pairs of Type 2s were booked until their larger cousins, the Type 4 "Warships" were available, instead.


Do you mean the original warships? I read that they were very unreliable and spent a lot of their time sandwiched between a steam loco and the train they were supposed to be pulling. The Class 42 acquired the 'Warship' moniker after their demise.


No, I meant the Swindon-built and North British Built D8xx series (later Class 42 and 43). Both the North British D6xx (later Class 41) and the Swindon-built and North British built D8xx series were officially called "WARSHIP CLASS", by BR from the beginning.

See the nameplate of D601 "Ark Royal" on display at the National Railway:
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/British_Rail_Class_41_(Warship_Class) (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/British_Rail_Class_41_(Warship_Class))

And of D603 "Conquest" here:
http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00000-conquest.jpg (http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00000-conquest.jpg)

With D865 "Zealous" here:
http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00000-conquest-zealous.jpg (http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00000-conquest-zealous.jpg)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: chrispearce on July 16, 2018, 09:25:14 am
To be fair, pairs of Type 2s were booked until their larger cousins, the Type 4 "Warships" were available, instead.


Do you mean the original warships? I read that they were very unreliable and spent a lot of their time sandwiched between a steam loco and the train they were supposed to be pulling. The Class 42 acquired the 'Warship' moniker after their demise.


No, I meant the Swindon-built and North British Built D8xx series (later Class 42 and 43). Both the North British D6xx (later Class 41) and the Swindon-built and North British built D8xx series were officially called "WARSHIP CLASS", by BR from the beginning.

See the nameplate of D601 "Ark Royal" on display at the National Railway:
[url]https://www.wikiwand.com/en/British_Rail_Class_41_(Warship_Class)[/url] ([url]https://www.wikiwand.com/en/British_Rail_Class_41_(Warship_Class))[/url]

And of D603 "Conquest" here:
[url]http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00000-conquest.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00000-conquest.jpg[/url])

With D865 "Zealous" here:
[url]http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00000-conquest-zealous.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00000-conquest-zealous.jpg[/url])


Oops, I thought you meant the D600 Active class. :sorrysign:

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: chrispearce on July 16, 2018, 01:11:39 pm
The D600 Active Class have been described as," the diesel hydraulic the Western Region didn't want". Terribly unreliable. Cornwall was the first region of BR that became completely dieselized. 1962 appears to be the effective end of steam in Cornwall. The D600 were not a success but the Class 22 (or as Chris from Prague says Type 2) were much better.

There is a body kit for an N gauge D600. For the life of me I can't quite recall who makes it. Should/could we see an example at Cant Cove or Port Perran - complete with Manor in front? These seem to be examples of quintessential Cornish layouts.

I did start a compressed version of Penzance once and considered buying the body kit for a D600. Sadly that layout didn't make it much past the planning stage. I will have to be content with admiring the work of others - which, I might add is actually rather an enjoyable experience.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 16, 2018, 03:17:58 pm
Hi Chris, I'd certainly agree with you that the D600 (later Class 41) "Warship" Class locos were, indeed, "the diesel-hydraulic the Western Region didn't want", the heavyweight design being imposed on the WR by the BTC. (I have quite a few books about this subject.) As both the builders (North British) and the railway staff who had to work on and with them were very new to diesel-hydraulics it is not surprising that they were terribly unreliable, at first. Later, they settled down to working trains of china clay wagons where the locos.' extra weight came in very handy for braking such trains.

There is / was a bodykit for an N Gauge D600 class and at least one forum member (Karhedron) has made a very nice looking model. "The kit was made by Carl Pelpow of "It's N Gauge". The kit comes as a resin bodyshell with etched details that is to be fitted on the older Bachmann/Farish class 47 chassis. Carl has revamped this kit with improved grill detail so anyone else wanting to have a go can now (2010) get the improved version of the kit." However, he is out of business (see elsewhere on the forum on him being sent to present) so the chances of buying a new kit are dependent on finding a secondhand one. I would suggest that a new 3D print would be much better in any case.

SEE:
https://www.newrailwaymodellers.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic.php?t=29241 (https://www.newrailwaymodellers.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic.php?t=29241)

The chassis came from an old Graham Farish Class 47 chassis. "The Class 77 bogie sideframes made by MSL for their kit. Although not quite identical, the Class 77 bogies are very close to those on the D600s. They are also cast to fit the standard Bachmann/Farish 3-axle bogie which makes fitting them to this kit easy."

I would be very tempted to have a D6xx in BR Green livery, but it would get very little use at Cant Cove as nothing bigger than a "Hymek" is, normally, seen there and the bridge beyond has a weight restriction baring anything with a RA higher than that of a D8xx "Warship". Martin might be tempted to have one running to / from Truro via Newquay? (In our 'Alternative Cornwall' there is an upgraded -- by the GWR in the 1930s -- alternative mainline from Truro-Newquay-Wadebridge.) A "Manor" plus D6xx would be a pleasing pairing to model. Once I have the other lmotive power that I need more, as 3D prints (e.g. an O2, a B4, a Swindon Cross-Country DMU), I'll try to persuade someone to make a 3D print of a D6xx in N Gauge.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 16, 2018, 04:59:18 pm
Thanks Caz for that lovely photo of two Class 22s at the head of the Cornishman.
Lets hope those two of them made it all the way to Penzance with no problems.
Chris and Chris, the best I can do to replicate a steam diesel combination involving a Manor and an early warship lookalike (ie class 22) is this pairing passing through Trepol Bay earlier today. The Manor is in GWR livery as restord by the GWS in Cornwall.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-160718165908.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67480)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 16, 2018, 05:30:58 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for another excellent photo. The liveries do go very well together.

If it's an enthusiasts' charter from Penmayne-Wadebridge-Trepol Bay-Port Perran-Newquay(-Truro?), I can photograph it passing through Cant Cove. (I have locos. in these liveries if not the same identities.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 16, 2018, 07:16:25 pm
Many thanks, Martin, for another excellent photo. The liveries do go very well together.

If it's an enthusiasts' charter from Penmayne-Wadebridge-Trepol Bay-Port Perran-Newquay(-Truro?), I can photograph it passing through Cant Cove. (I have locos. in these liveries if not the same identities.)
Yes indeed, it is passing Trepol Bay in the Truro direction.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: chrispearce on July 16, 2018, 10:55:10 pm
I hope that your Class 22 hasn't broken down Martin! I'm assuming it is a posed static pic. I wonder how 2 such different model locos would manage running together in perfect harmony?

Did I just drop a Karen Carpenter reference there? :-[

Woe is me. :'(
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on July 18, 2018, 08:17:11 pm
What-ho, Martin

After a bit of 'clicking', I found your Trepol Bay ?? thread and am enjoying it very much.  It was very much in the days when I could not have imagined being a member of an internet forum, so I missed it first time round.

Rather than cause confusion by sending repeated four years' late 'thank yous', please accept this as a belated composite 'thank you'.

Tickety-tonk.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 20, 2018, 07:59:20 pm
The enthusiasts' special from Penmayne-Wadebridge-Trepol Bay-Port Perran-Newquay-Truro) is seen here, on the return leg, leaving Cant Cove with the GWS preserved GWR "Manor" hauling the 'failed' 1100 H.P. D.6300 Class plus the 3 BR WR Chocolate & Cream BR Standard coaches.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2018-07-20%2019.07.49_zpsudavppuf.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2018-07-20%2019.07.49_zpsudavppuf.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2018-07-20%2019.09.31_zps8adamyqm.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2018-07-20%2019.09.31_zps8adamyqm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 20, 2018, 08:04:01 pm
That is a great photo Chris and have replicated the special really nicely.
I like your foot crossing. I have plenty on Trepol Bay but still need to add a few to Tregonning.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 20, 2018, 09:11:35 pm
Thanks, Martin. The foot crossings are made from wooden sticks, I think some of the ones you kindly sent me a while ago with the lines (representing wooden sleepers) scored deeply with a sharp pencil using a steel ruler. They were then painted with a specially mixed combination of matt dark brown and matt black to represent creosoted sleepers, I hope. They really need to be dry-brushed with dark grey. However, I won't do that until I've added the remaining walkways and painted them. (And, at present, the model shop is out of Humbrol thinners. I do also use acrylics but prefer enamel paints for most purposes.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: chrispearce on July 23, 2018, 12:15:19 am
Martin and Chris - very fine work on replicating the Manor/22 and coaches! You both do these 'trains running from one layout to another' very well!  :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 23, 2018, 04:35:28 am
Thank you very much, Chris. We do both enjoy setting them up. I keep details of the rolling stock which we both have, as well as others, for 'through' running. I plan to take more such pictures, this summer, particularly as the scenery will be improved to 'frame' the trains better in the landscape.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 25, 2018, 07:56:12 pm
It’s been another beautiful day in Cornwall where travel on the railways has been soaring in popularity due to the specially discounted tickets available over the Summer period.
However, there appears to have been an imbalance in locomotive workings at the far Western extremity of the old LSWR route to Trepol Bay.
This has had the effect that evening workings of trains to Wadebridge have been somewhat overpowered due to the use of two locomotives. This avoids difficult pathing movements for railway staff and provides some interesting combinations for intrepid lineside observers.
First we see a classic North Cornwall combination of N Class mogul and a beautifully restored T9 4-4-0 on a two coach local with the late afternoon sun glinting on the carriages. A Class 22 diesel interloper idles noisily in the background.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-250718195149.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67688)
Half an hour later, the scene is repeated as a Battle of Britain pacific and an Ivatt 2-6-2 tank leave with a train for Cant Cove and Penmayne. The sun is lower now, just catching the tail of the train of rather elderly stock.
Another SR pacific lurks in the distance whilst the typically Southern scene is completed woth an M7 tank fussing about on the harbour incline

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-250718195559.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67689)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on July 25, 2018, 08:35:03 pm
Terrific photographs, thank you, Martin.

I really like the 'BoB' Hurricane.  Although I am 'officially' a pre-1939 enthusiast, I think I might try to pick up one of these second-hand.  I understand that there is a good chap (BR Lines?) who can give them a Heavy General and make them like new.

Much as I enjoy the pictures of Trepol Bay, I'm missing seeing Port Perran and hope that it is in fine form.

With many thanks.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on July 25, 2018, 08:46:51 pm
Hi Martin,

Lovely pics as usual.

I really like the N class mogul. I know very little about steam but to me (and please don't throw pasties across the water at me) it looks more frenchlike than other British locos  :)  :worried:.

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2018, 10:50:13 pm
Many thanks for more excellent photos., Martin. Cant Cove's official photographer has photographed 'Battle of Britain' Light Pacific No. 34065 "Hurricane" (72A), without its assisting Ivatt 2-6-2 tank, at Cant Cove with the same two-coach train of rather elderly SR Green suburban stock heading for Penmayne.

John, I have a duplicate of both BR Early Crest, high-sided tenders Bulleid 'BoB" 34065 "Hurricane" and 34066 "Spitfire" (both, 72A), (Martin and I already have the same 34064 and 34065), sitting in Wickness Models. 34066 "Spitfire"  is, indeed, after a 'Heavy General' by the excellent Bob of BRLines who did a lot of work on my second-hand locos. in past years. I only want to keep one of this pair for renumbering and renaming as, probably, No 34016 "Bodmin", before it was rebuilt or, perhaps, 34007 "Wadebridge" but with a new tender.

NB 34065 "Hurricane" of 72A Exmouth Junction was one of the few unrebuilt Bulleid Light Pacifics with a poor reputation for steaming so, "Spitfire" might be a better choice. (If interested, please, PM me.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 26, 2018, 08:43:29 am
Terrific photographs, thank you, Martin.

I really like the 'BoB' Hurricane.  Although I am 'officially' a pre-1939 enthusiast, I think I might try to pick up one of these second-hand.  I understand that there is a good chap (BR Lines?) who can give them a Heavy General and make them like new.

Much as I enjoy the pictures of Trepol Bay, I'm missing seeing Port Perran and hope that it is in fine form.

With many thanks.

John
John
We are somewhat pressed for space here in our little cottage so Port Perran is currently stored at our model railwat HQ about 6 miles away.
It will be set up again at some point in the future but I do have some unpublished photos to dirip feed due course.
It was a difficult decision as to whether to store Port Perran or Trepol Bay but TB does offer greater operational flexibility so that swayed it
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 26, 2018, 11:52:22 am
Cant Cove's official photographer has photographed 'Battle of Britain' Light Pacific No. 34065 "Hurricane" (72A, Exmouth Junction), without its assisting Ivatt 2-6-2 tank, (removed at Wadebridge, where it was needed), at Cant Cove with the same two-coach enthusiasts' special train of rather elderly SR Malachite Green non-corridor stock heading for Penmayne.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2018-07-26%2012.21.14_zpsbfo8a6iu.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2018-07-26%2012.21.14_zpsbfo8a6iu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 29, 2018, 01:03:00 pm
 :hellosign: Many thanks Martin (& Chris) for the really excellent photos, looking forward to more
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 29, 2018, 08:30:05 pm
I’ve been running a few trains this evening on Trepol Bay with a glass of wine.
I got to thinking, which is a dangerous thing but.... what if I created another backboard which would effectively would be a front board?
It would be abackboard along the front of the layout. Just a temporary measure.
If I then temporarily removed the existing backboard, which lifts off, I could take some photographs effectively looking out to sea.
Creating a board with a sea view might be tricky but it’s just a germ of an idea at this stage.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on July 29, 2018, 09:15:32 pm
Great idea :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on July 30, 2018, 08:31:00 am
I’ve been running a few trains this evening on Trepol Bay with a glass of wine.
I got to thinking, which is a dangerous thing but.... what if I created another backboard which would effectively would be a front board?
It would be abackboard along the front of the layout. Just a temporary measure.
If I then temporarily removed the existing backboard, which lifts off, I could take some photographs effectively looking out to sea.
Creating a board with a sea view might be tricky but it’s just a germ of an idea at this stage.

Hello Martin

When I first read this I wondered why... You have gone to great lengths with Trepol Bay to achieve a rising composition, stepped to the rear.  And with three separate levels as well!  This composition is pretty much guaranteed to show a model railway at its best.

Then I remembered a holiday we had in Southwold, where our room had a very attractive view out to sea over the rooftops of the town.  What a varied and picturesque 'roofscape' it is.  With the 'right' camera angle, that's what you would have with Trepol Bay.  The roofs of the super range of buildings in the (present) foreground would become the middle distance.  If anyone can pull off a convincing seascape it's you.  And it will be mostly sky anyway, I suppose.

Well worth a try; I, for one, would welcome photographs from different viewpoints.

As for running trains with a glass of wine - Snap!  I had an hour doing that last evening.  I'll not fill your thread with my ramblings, but the trains ran really well.  What a jolly agreeable way to spend an evening.

With best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 30, 2018, 08:34:24 pm
Just to see what it might look like. I’ve taken a few very poor photos from the rear of Trepol Bay. I still have the backboard in place which makes the positioning of the camera very awkward but you can get the idea.
I think getting the colour and perspective of a “frontboard” correct is going to prove VERY difficult. It might have to be a photograph  and perhaps not fully in focus.
As you can see, Tregonning sits in the background

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-300718203156.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67771)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-300718203302.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67772)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-300718203341.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67773)
If nothing else, it gives a different perspective on TB.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Newportnobby on July 30, 2018, 08:42:42 pm
A different perspective as you say, Martin, but the light doesn't seem right and could be causing you issues with the photos :hmmm:
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 30, 2018, 08:45:29 pm
A different perspective as you say, Martin, but the light doesn't seem right and could be causing you issues with the photos :hmmm:
Thanks Mick. Yes, as I said they are very poor  photos. I have spotlights set up in the room to aid photos from the opposite direction so I’ll need to alter that when I get around to building a frontscene!

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on July 30, 2018, 09:11:27 pm
I like the idea and the photos posted show it can be done to very good effect.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 30, 2018, 09:15:32 pm
I also like the concept of a new frontscene and photos. from different viewpoints. However, the lighting does need to be improved so the pictures reach your usual high standard, Martin.

I look forward to seeing how you develop this.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on July 30, 2018, 09:17:13 pm
I also like the concept of a new frontscene and photos. from different viewpoints. However, the lighting does need to be improved so the pictures reach your usual high standard, Martin.

I look forward to seeing how you develop this.
Ha....  no developing involved  Chris.
We are in the digital age now  :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 05, 2018, 04:26:45 pm
We’ve just returned from 4 days in a very hot and sticky London visiting relatives.
These little chaps were waiting for me on my return.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/230-050818162315.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67855)
They are LSWR water cranes by Peedie models who have made an excellent job of them.
We now have guests till late August so Trepol Bay is stored away for a few weeks which means it’ll be a while till I get around to painting them.
I’ll post photos of them in place at some future date.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2018, 05:31:34 pm
Excellent, Martin. I have (aerosol) spraypainted mine in Tamiya matt grey but Halfords matt grey (not available here) is a cheaper option and just as good. The translucent green ones need to be kept in the dark until you're ready to paint them. (Exposure to bright sunlight can make the material brittle.)

There are little round marks (especially on the hoses) which need to be carefully filed away. I have yet to do that.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on August 05, 2018, 06:33:24 pm
My imagination is getting the better of me … the top middle two look like little Martians!

Sorry, I must have breathed in too much balsa cement today.

They look a very nice job, though.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 05, 2018, 07:25:45 pm
My imagination is getting the better of me … the top middle two look like little Martians!

Sorry, I must have breathed in too much balsa cement today.

They look a very nice job, though.

John
Oh yes, sorry, they belong to my grandson.


No....really, they are fire devils to accompany the platform based water cranes.

Could double as martians though.
 :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2018, 08:55:59 pm
I've long promised an updated local railway map but it needs to be amended to incorporate the correct location of all three of your railways, Martin.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY%20-%20North%20Cornwall%20map_zpsor0vyyhb.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY%20-%20North%20Cornwall%20map_zpsor0vyyhb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: wookie on August 09, 2018, 07:30:23 pm
My imagination is getting the better of me … the top middle two look like little Martians!
I was thinking teletubbies  :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 10, 2018, 03:27:45 pm
A grey, murky and damp August afternoon in Cornwall today.
In and around Trepol Bay harbour the daily routine carries on regardless however. Without a locomotive in sight, a trio of wagons have been shunted into the private sidings of Messrs Prisk and Jones whilst others wait their turn to be shunted to where needed.
The chap sitting on the wall seems oblivious to the weather.
On the main line above a goods train heads towards the station.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/230-100818152529.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68019)
[as we have visitors, the layout has been partly dismantled for 2 weeks but still stands in the corner, minus fiddle yard and backboard. All locomotives are stored in a box which is awkward to reach so photo opportunities are limited].
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on August 10, 2018, 04:22:09 pm
That's a very interesting photograph, Martin.  It's full of life!

It certainly demonstrates that when there is so much of interest in the railway scene, a locomotive does not need to be included!

Many thanks.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 10, 2018, 07:16:57 pm
That's a very interesting photograph, Martin.  It's full of life!

It certainly demonstrates that when there is so much of interest in the railway scene, a locomotive does not need to be included!

Many thanks.

John

Seconded! I wonder what the third van (the one on the left, mostly hidden behind the stone wall), is? (So, I can show them departing from Cant Cove.)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 10, 2018, 07:45:42 pm
That's a very interesting photograph, Martin.  It's full of life!

It certainly demonstrates that when there is so much of interest in the railway scene, a locomotive does not need to be included!

Many thanks.

John


Seconded! I wonder what the third van (the one on the left, mostly hidden behind the stone wall), is? (So, I can show them departing from Cant Cove.)

A few seconds earlier

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/230-100818194534.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68029)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 10, 2018, 09:10:11 pm
Thanks, Martin. Ah, two different vans in the dark green livery of Messrs Prisk & Jones (Fruit & Vegetable Wholesalers), Trepol Bay. I'll have to look for my dark green refrigerated van.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Milton Rail on August 13, 2018, 06:41:07 am
Great pictures Martin, love the idea of a front scene, look forward to seeing how you progress that
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 13, 2018, 04:27:35 pm
My railways have been out of use for about 2 weeks with visitors coming and going. And from tomorrow I have 2 of my grand children staying for a few days.
It’s allowed me time to ponder, especially with Tregonning now largely complete.
I’ve more or less decided to tidy up Trepol Bay a bit, including adding static grass where I can (particularly along the canal) and generally making it a little more presentable.
I’d also like to change to a photographic backscene which I think will improve the character of the layout somewhat. The reason for this is that I am seriously considering dispensing with the fiddle yard and making the rear of Trepol Bay into a scenic layout but completely in the country (very much based on North Cornwall). In order to do that, I would need to add a completely new backboard to Trepol Bay hence the possible change.
I’d like to make the new scenic area almost completely devoid of buildings. Perhaps just a single isolated farmhouse. An interesting challenge for me because, as many will realise, I do like modelling largely urban settings.
The downside is that I won’t be able to have 8 or 9 trains all set up at once but I think I can live with that.
I haven’t forgotten about adding extra sea at the front. Indeed, that may be my very first project in September.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 13, 2018, 06:16:53 pm
That all sounds very interesting, Martin, and I look forward to seeing you progress. (I will be packing up in two weeks' time.)

However, the loss of the storage sidings is, of course, a minus. Maybe, time to construct some storage cassettes for trains, like Andrew?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: weave on August 13, 2018, 06:35:55 pm
Hi Martin,

All sounds good as you're obviously a man that can't not have a project.

I like the last sentence. More Sea Vicar.

Looking forward to your plans but, again, please do it a bit slower.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on August 13, 2018, 08:35:18 pm
An excellent idea. Looking forward to seeing the changes.
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on August 13, 2018, 08:56:39 pm
That sounds a very interesting plan, Martin.  I always look in mild amazement at all the layouts that are about 2/3 hidden fiddle yards.  Seems a bit of a waste to me.  The trains running through a North Cornwall landscape will be very attractive.

Is there any way that you can have a junction or similar with a track leading to a couple of off-stage tracks.  That way you can have a train running and another one ready off scene.

John
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 13, 2018, 08:59:47 pm
That sounds a very interesting plan, Martin.  I always look in mild amazement at all the layouts that are about 2/3 hidden fiddle yards.  Seems a bit of a waste to me.  The trains running through a North Cornwall landscape will be very attractive.

Is there any way that you can have a junction or similar with a track leading to a couple of off-stage tracks.  That way you can have a train running and another one ready off scene.

John
I have a cunning plan. That’s why I need to replace the backscene..........
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Train Waiting on August 13, 2018, 10:04:14 pm
A plan so cunning that you could stick ears on it and call it a fox?
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 14, 2018, 06:47:11 am
A plan so cunning that you could stick ears on it and call it a fox?

And not a turnip in sight.  :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: port perran on August 17, 2018, 08:00:39 pm
Completely off topic but I thought I’d share this.
I’ve been largely absent from the forum for most of the last 5 days or  as we have had two of my grand children staying (aged 8 & 10).
We’ve had a lovely if exhausting time.
In between the beach and other kiddy type stuff, Murray and Lizzie opted to try to make a farm scene (having seen my layouts).
This is all their idea. They planned it all completely.  I helped by supplying a bit of boardand  odds and ends from my bits boxes and also guided them as to what to do.
I think it’s impressive for their ages.
All done in a few spare hours and just goes to show that youngsters can get involved in modelling. They thoroughly enjoyed it.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/230-170818195944.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68248)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/230-170818200029.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68249)
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Mito on August 17, 2018, 09:01:13 pm
Certainly very impressive. They'll be teaching you soon. :D
Title: Re: Port Perran/Trepol Bay
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 17, 2018, 09:50:12 pm
Really excellent modelling work, regardless of their (young) ages. Congratulations to them. I hope they will think about their own model railway, next! 8-)