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Re: Scrapping Eurostars
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2018, 10:13:27 am »
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Re: Scrapping Eurostars
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2018, 10:32:30 pm »
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The main theme of this thread makes me so sad.

When I was 8, the Channel Tunnel was the single best thing going on in engineering (oh I did/do adore Concorde, but we all thought she was here to stay....oh lord  :'().

The Kato Eurostar was my ultimate ultimate wish list present, Ferrari at the school gates cool (to me)....and I had the best surprise and subsequent Christmas ever when I was 10 and got one (plus expansion set, which I opened first, which kept the surprise going....).

I also avidly read all the articles I could about the 92 (pre internet, bought magazines just for those pictures) and many many years later got my CJM 92022.

I got to go to Belgium from St Pancras (and back) once, never managed it out of Waterloo (sat and watched loads of sets coming and going though).

Seeing the 373 sets going to scrap makes me feel old....

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Re: Scrapping Eurostars
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2018, 11:12:42 pm »
wonder if anyone bought the second hand tunneling machine that was parked beside the M20,with a for sale sign,1 careful owner.It was there a good few months as we passed it  several times  on our,at the time,regular trips  to and from germany
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Re: Scrapping Eurostars
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2018, 12:17:04 am »
wonder if anyone bought the second hand tunneling machine that was parked beside the M20,with a for sale sign,1 careful owner.It was there a good few months as we passed it  several times  on our,at the time,regular trips  to and from germany


Yes it sold for £39899. the money was split between 3 charities

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/news/40000-buys-channel-tunnel-dril-a12566/

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Re: Scrapping Eurostars
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2018, 12:41:25 am »
wonder if anyone bought the second hand tunneling machine that was parked beside the M20,with a for sale sign,1 careful owner.It was there a good few months as we passed it  several times  on our,at the time,regular trips  to and from germany


Yes it sold for £39899. the money was split between 3 charities

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/news/40000-buys-channel-tunnel-dril-a12566/


Wonder what happened to it after that!?

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Re: Scrapping Eurostars
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2018, 12:43:21 am »
wonder if anyone bought the second hand tunneling machine that was parked beside the M20,with a for sale sign,1 careful owner.It was there a good few months as we passed it  several times  on our,at the time,regular trips  to and from germany


Yes it sold for £39899. the money was split between 3 charities

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/news/40000-buys-channel-tunnel-dril-a12566/


Wonder what happened to it after that!?

Cheers,
Alan


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Re: Scrapping Eurostars
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2018, 01:54:32 am »
I think it was a complete waste of a perfectly good piece of rolling stock. Surely someone must have thought why don't we use these trains on the national network? Shorten them down slightly which will leave them with plenty of spares and use them on the electrified networks.
There always seems to be a passenger train shortage in this country. Let's use them!

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Re: Scrapping Eurostars
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2018, 02:15:44 am »
I think it was a complete waste of a perfectly good piece of rolling stock. Surely someone must have thought why don't we use these trains on the national network? Shorten them down slightly which will leave them with plenty of spares and use them on the electrified networks.
There always seems to be a passenger train shortage in this country. Let's use them!

From reading up on these, the reasons were several fold.  Loading gauge restricted the lines they can run on, hence why this was dragged from St Pancras up the ECML and then across to the scrap yard rather then go up the midland main line.  Also their length meant serious investment in modding platforms etc to accommodate them, even the sets that were nicknamed "north of london" sets were still quite long.  There was also power issues, and at the time the power delivery couldn't handle the current draw, especially if both power cars were employed.  There were apparently reports that they frequently tripped the grid at kings cross.

It is sad to see these being retired and then scrapped, but I guess that it's a case of economics and its cheaper to buy new efficient trains with all the mod cons than upgrade and refurbish 20-25 year old stock.

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Re: Scrapping Eurostars
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2018, 08:02:07 am »
They’re very complex too, as they’re basically two trains joined together, and they’ve got all the redundant cab signalling equipment. It’s a nice theory, but they weren’t a viable prospect on the ECML when they weren’t knackered...

 

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