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Offline open cab

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Advice on buying Locos
« on: October 01, 2017, 11:59:02 am »
Before I hand over my cash I would like to get advice from the knowledge that is out there.
After years in the wilderness I have recently return to the hobby and because space and the new skills required, I need to stick stay small, so my layout has to use minim 9inch curves.
I would like to increase my Loco stock from a Pannier Tank and a Standard Class 4mt Tank to something a bit grander.  Has any one got tried and tested suggestions of Locos that work well on tight curves please? Id much prefer from those that do, rather than manufactures data.
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Re: Advice on buying Locos
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2017, 12:12:34 pm »
I can't help with 9" radius curves, but I can say that Farish Jubilees, Coronation Class, Ivatts, Black 5's, Fairburns and a Dapol Western can handle 10" curves just fine.

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Re: Advice on buying Locos
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2017, 12:45:41 pm »
I would like to increase my Loco stock from a Pannier Tank and a Standard Class 4mt Tank to something a bit grander.  Has any one got tried and tested suggestions of Locos that work well on tight curves please? Id much prefer from those that do, rather than manufactures data.
Thanks
Open Cab
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Union Mills locos go round 9" curves and tighter with no problem at all

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Re: Advice on buying Locos
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2017, 02:21:59 pm »
The vast majority of my locos are Farish. All my diesels traverse 9" radius curves, as do all my steamers from the lowly 0-6-0 to the latest Duchess 4-6-2, but beware the overhang as they do so.
Where it falls down is with some Dapol steamers, such as my 9Fs, A4, 28xx, Schools and Britannia. Other folks have no issues with theirs. Let's face it, as our locos are hand made, they can't all be the same. I just think Farish drive trains have a bit more 'slop' in them.
Take great care in laying your track as all locos dislike lumps and bumps!

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Re: Advice on buying Locos
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2017, 06:06:01 pm »
Thank you for the information. That has given me some wiggle room in my head if not on the layout! :)

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Re: Advice on buying Locos
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2017, 06:24:28 pm »
I would pretty much agree with NN. I have 9 in radius curves in my fiddle yard and all my locos manage ok. I havent got a 9F or 28xx or WD however (locos which may struggle).
All I'd say is that coaching stock and longer locos (eg Western-Class52) do rather overhang and look a bit odd. If you are OK with that then you should be ok.
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Re: Advice on buying Locos
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2017, 07:26:18 pm »
I agree with the above. I have several older Farish locos. Class 33, 37, 47 and 08 diesels and an old poole Duchess and they all go round tight corners fine. When I laid some flexi down as a test track to keep my little one happy, I had corners which had spots tighter than 9" and they all went round fine.

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Re: Advice on buying Locos
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2017, 08:00:44 pm »
Don't forget the coaches, some of the newer models have bogie rotation limiters which can't manage 9" radius curves and the buffers may lock up if using close couplers.

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Re: Advice on buying Locos
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2017, 10:17:25 pm »
Fair point, Martin. I only have MK1s and suburbans so that didn't occur to me.
None of my wagons lock buffers either.

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Re: Advice on buying Locos
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2017, 11:30:06 pm »
The Dapol Maunsell's and Farish Bullid's don't like sharp curves, (seems to be to do with the body mounted coupling), one of the reasons I'm in the process of engineering 9" curves into 12" curves on my layout.

(Note for info, 12" radius 009 points almost line up with 11.75" radius set track curves for non scenic applications).

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Re: Advice on buying Locos
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2017, 04:10:23 pm »
Fine advice from one and all. Thank you. I feel better about upping my stock now.

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Re: Advice on buying Locos
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2017, 06:13:44 pm »
The Dapol Maunsell's and Farish Bullid's don't like sharp curves, (seems to be to do with the body mounted coupling), one of the reasons I'm in the process of engineering 9" curves into 12" curves on my layout.

(Note for info, 12" radius 009 points almost line up with 11.75" radius set track curves for non scenic applications).

Martin
I dont have a problem with Dapol Maunsells on 183 mm curves provided I dont use the gangway insert or propel with short couplings.

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