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Author Topic: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons  (Read 14870 times)

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Offline Buzzard

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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #165 on: January 07, 2017, 09:01:44 am »
 :jawdropping:

Glad I've ordered some.

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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #166 on: January 07, 2017, 10:05:54 am »
:jawdropping:

Glad I've ordered some.

It's not too late to order some more  ;)

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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #167 on: January 08, 2017, 10:28:37 am »
The assembled examples are great, have you had a chance to test them yet?

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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #168 on: January 22, 2017, 12:27:45 am »

Hello all,

We received the first samples of the forthcoming PFA/KFA intermodal flats from Rapido in the week.

They look as good as they did in the photographs we were sent from Canada, and the 40' hi-cube containers we are producing with C-Rail, and 20' containers manufactured by Farish, are a perfect fit. (Farish 40' containers do not have corner mounting pins, while Dapol pins are very overscale and would need to be trimmed.)



For more information and a short video, see the news item on our website here:

http://www.revolutiontrains.com/kfa-samples-received-testing/

We still need to finalise the livery diagrams, though these wagons are all either blue or black, with blue, black or yellow bogies. Markings are relatively basic - just TOPS panels, warning marks in white and some have Tiphook or Freightliner branding.

The order book will be staying open a few more weeks until we are ready to authorise them for production, and the factory has the capacity to start.

Cheers

Ben A.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2017, 12:29:26 am by Ben A »



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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #169 on: January 22, 2017, 07:35:59 pm »
Hi Ben,
They certainly look the part and run smoothly.  Out of interest what did you use to fit the containers?
Thanks
Rowlie

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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #170 on: January 22, 2017, 07:46:57 pm »
These look very impressive, I must find some funds....😱

Cheers, Timmo

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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #171 on: January 23, 2017, 12:11:48 am »

Hi Rowlie,

The containers in the video are our own C-Rail 40' hi-cube and standard height 20' containers from Farish.

They all have small pegs on each corner, and these are a good interference fit so once positioned they stay in place.

The Farish containers do have larger pegs (for fitting to the old Farish freightliner flats) at the 1/3 and 2/3 position along each side - these need to be removed (or the floor of the container removed) first.

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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #172 on: January 23, 2017, 12:22:57 am »
These really are (like most Revolution stuff!) fine models!
Totally out of period and place for me, but marvellous none the less :)

There is something about a (full size) train of containers that appeals to the really basic "oh! lots of pretty colours and different shapes!" aspect of my head......kinda like the modern version of the PO coal wagon of yesterday!!

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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #173 on: February 02, 2017, 12:27:00 pm »
Hi

Apologise if this has been asked before but I am in the now annual process of allocating modelling funds and it occurs to me how nice these would look behind a 92....

So, my question is which of the 6 offered versions would be best for my 1994 onwards timeframe (i.e BR to early private) so I could run them with tripple grey and vinyl beasty 92s? 

I have read that the bogies on the early wagons were not approved for the Chunnel so I think I would want version 4 or 5?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #174 on: February 02, 2017, 12:36:10 pm »
...so I think I would want version 4 or 5?

Thanks in advance

Skyline2uk

Yes - for the use you mention those would be the ones to go for.

cheers

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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #175 on: October 10, 2017, 09:17:35 am »
Hi Ben @Ben A

Any update on the production of these?  Have seen your news item on your web site from July concerning adding additional weight but no word on here since the beginning of the year.  Quite surprised as this model is basically a chassis and yet the order book has still not closed, despite the indication given on this forum that you had reached the required quantities to produce quite quickly after it being announced.

It seems very odd for a crowd funded model considering all the posts on the B class Tanks which were proposed six months later than this model, and according to the various posts on this forum were struggling to reach the threshold, and yet now painted samples have been received and approved and a closing date of the end this month has been set.

Wait to hear from you.

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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #176 on: October 10, 2017, 11:01:03 am »
Hi Mick

There is no mystery with the KFAs vs the Class B tanks.  As you noted, we were not happy with the weight of the KFAs so we made some tooling changes and we are waiting for the revised samples (probably Warley). Once approved (if the new samples are OK) then we will have to wait for a production slot and it will depend very much on whether the factory can get them done before Chinese New Year.

The Class B tanks didn't require any tooling revisions (and are coming from a completely different factory) so have progressed comparatively more quickly.

Cheers, Mike



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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #177 on: October 10, 2017, 06:54:06 pm »

Hi Mick,

Further to what Mike said, we are both still on something of a learning curve here, but one thing I have discovered is that if the models are "right first time" - like the TEAs and the Class Bs - then they move quickly from unpainted test model, to painted sample, to production.

But.... if there are issues with the initial sample models, as there were with the Pendolino (couplers) and the KFA (weight), then a process of discussion, head-scratching, modification and re-design has to take place and this can significantly slow things down.

I am not sure there is an easy solution to this.  Ideally the CADs will be spot on and the factory will get the "working parts" right first time  but if we do have concerns about an aspect of the model we feel it's better to address these - even if the model is overtaken by others proposed later - than "make do" with something less than ideal.

But thanks for asking the question - if nothing else it's prompted a useful update to this thread!

cheers

Ben A.



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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #178 on: October 12, 2017, 07:33:56 pm »
I for one am pleased that Revolution are taking their time over models like the KFA. If it looks good but wonít run because itís too light it will still be a useless bit of rolling stock. It is a credit to Mike and Ben that they are taking so much time in getting these models right.
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Re: Revolution Trains PFA/KFA container wagons
« Reply #179 on: October 12, 2017, 08:55:57 pm »
Absolutely,

The Dapol Megafrets are beautiful wagons, but getting a reasonable length rake to run round relatively tight curves is a nightmare.

Regards,

John P

 

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