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Kato Unitrack - Hints and Tips
« on: January 05, 2015, 09:50:23 am »
please feel free to post / copy Hints and Tips about Unitrack here  -it will save a lot of searching!

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Re: Kato UNitrack - Hints and Tips
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2015, 10:02:08 am »
How to make your own lengths of Kato Unitrack

http://www.fiferhobby.com/html/how_to_make_your_own_lengths_o.html

 How to make your own Lengths of Kato Unitrack By: Mike Fifer

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How to make track feeds by soldering to Unijoiners

http://www.fiferhobby.com/html/how_to_make_kato_unitrack_feed.html

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Kato Track components

https://www.katousa.com/cgi-bin/dl/dl.pl?dl.mif,Kato-TrackReference-2013.pdf

https://www.katousa.com/PDF/N-Unitrack.pdf

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KAto Point switches & Power leads - the inside story

http://t-trak.cincy.home.insightbb.com/TTrak.070000000/TTrak.070000000.htm?OD

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Replacement KAto connectors ( from US)

http://modeltrains.about.com/od/electronicsdcc/qt/kato_wiring.htm

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DCC wiring for Kato points

http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches_kato.htm

Note that the Kato points work for DCC a out of the box, and very few people need to modify them in any way

DCC point chips

Geoff says

DCC decoders for Kato points are the Digitrax DS52 a 2 point decoder but this decoder has no bells and whistles, then there is the Digitrax DS64 this is my favourite it allows me to have push buttons on my mimic board plus routes can be set up in the DS64.

But remember you can still use DC to control points even though your track is DCC.

Digitrax do a single decoder but this will not work the crossover or 2 points.

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Levelling track levels for ballasting

The Javis OO or Cantrill underlay that is double track width but is designed to be split to single track is perfect for butting up against the Kato track to provide a level ground level.

            I              I        __________________       I                I
ie    /--------------------\ \_________________/  /--------------------\ 
                     track                     underlay                         track


http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=1724.msg270116#msg270116

The chamfered cork was sourced  from........

http://www.charlescantrill.com/shop/model-railway/

or

http://tinyurl.com/nsf9jua (Javis N)

Javis OO http://tinyurl.com/nt329jh

or use Scenic Products Trackbed



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Unitrack Manuals

worth keeping in your "useful" folder!

https://www.katousa.com/cgi-bin/dl/dl.pl?dl.mif,Kato-TrackReference-2013.pdf

https://www.katousa.com/PDF/N-Unitrack.pdf
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Re: Kato Unitrack - Hints and Tips
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2015, 12:15:54 pm »
Unusual Kato Unitrack configurations ( scroll down the page)

http://jw-cad.fukurail.gozaru.jp/pattern/KATO_index.html

Use the link in message above( making your own lengths of track) to generate the funnies and off you go!
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Re: Kato Unitrack - Hints and Tips
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2015, 10:09:59 pm »
Unitrack FAQs from MG Sharp ( note MG Sharps' trading status is not known - caveat emptor

http://www.kato-unitrack.co.uk/kato-n-unitrack-faq-s-831-0.html
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Re: Kato Unitrack - Hints and Tips
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2015, 09:18:09 am »
Mixing Unitrack and Peco track for modules

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=26139.msg286718#new

and from Auustralia - T Track / Unitrack guidelines

http://t-trak.nscale.org.au/guidelines

I never noticed that the Blue Kato re-railer has 6 notches on one edge to allow proper track spacing!! ( page 5)



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Re: Kato Unitrack - Hints and Tips
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2015, 10:13:11 am »
I never noticed that the Blue Kato re-railer has 6 notches on one edge to allow proper track spacing!! ( page 5)

Thanks for info, I hadn't even noticed them before, and even if I had would have thought
they were just marks from the mold.
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Re: Kato Unitrack - Hints and Tips
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2015, 12:05:56 pm »
You can definitely marry up unitrack with Peco code 80 setrack without issue, I've had to because I don't have the space for unitrack points so had to use small setrack ones (layout is only 1.1x0.6m on a coffee table).

The ballasting isn't finished on my snapshots but 3mm cork tiles (from homebase) under the code 80 bring the height up pretty much a perfect match for the unitrack.  Just use normal Peco fishplates rather than the unitrack joiners.  Buy the matching ballast from kato, not that expensive and a good match for the unitrack :thumbsup:







One note of caution:  I'm finding anything pre-China Farish does not particularly like unitrack rail joiners.  They're not as flat as peco joiners are and the pizza cutter wheels tend to ride up (even though the rail tops are level).  Looks like I'll need to re-wheel some of my stock :doh:

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Re: Kato Unitrack - Hints and Tips
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2015, 11:48:49 pm »
That is a great looking layout you have there  :NGaugersRule:

You have made a great job with the points  :admiration:

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Re: Kato Unitrack - Hints and Tips
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2015, 01:52:21 am »
One note of caution:  I'm finding anything pre-China Farish does not particularly like unitrack rail joiners.  They're not as flat as peco joiners are and the pizza cutter wheels tend to ride up (even though the rail tops are level).  Looks like I'll need to re-wheel some of my stock :doh:
No pre-China Farish (so far), but an old Lima Mk1 coach I picked up really bounces about over Unitrack points. (Not that I intend to run it, it was going cheap and I was curious about olde N-stuff).
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Re: Kato Unitrack - Hints and Tips
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2015, 01:33:39 pm »
This is an interesting point. In the week or so I've had my Poole Farish running on Kato it's been fine, well, at least it seems so. I'll pay some attention to it going over the rail joiners later. No derailments as if yet - apart from when I decided to walk into a bridge, which I can hardly fault the track for.

I've noticed a few rail joiners at an angle and just pressed them down with a nail. This is really interesting if we're getting different results. Is your stock derailing?

Cheers

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One note of caution:  I'm finding anything pre-China Farish does not particularly like unitrack rail joiners.  They're not as flat as peco joiners are and the pizza cutter wheels tend to ride up (even though the rail tops are level).  Looks like I'll need to re-wheel some of my stock :doh:
No pre-China Farish (so far), but an old Lima Mk1 coach I picked up really bounces about over Unitrack points. (Not that I intend to run it, it was going cheap and I was curious about olde N-stuff).
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Re: Kato Unitrack - Hints and Tips
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2015, 02:42:19 pm »
This is an interesting point. In the week or so I've had my Poole Farish running on Kato it's been fine, well, at least it seems so. I'll pay some attention to it going over the rail joiners later. No derailments as if yet - apart from when I decided to walk into a bridge, which I can hardly fault the track for.

I've noticed a few rail joiners at an angle and just pressed them down with a nail. This is really interesting if we're getting different results. Is your stock derailing?

Cheers

Dan


I only have a test loop at the moment, but haven't had any problems. Not tried points yet.

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Re: Kato Unitrack - Hints and Tips
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2015, 09:44:34 am »
Quote
This is an interesting point. In the week or so I've had my Poole Farish running on Kato it's been fine, well, at least it seems so. I'll pay some attention to it going over the rail joiners later. No derailments as if yet - apart from when I decided to walk into a bridge, which I can hardly fault the track for.

I've noticed a few rail joiners at an angle and just pressed them down with a nail. This is really interesting if we're getting different results. Is your stock derailing?

Cheers

Dan

Quote from: railsquid on February 28, 2015, 01:52:21 am

    Quote from: RST on February 25, 2015, 12:05:56 pm

        One note of caution:  I'm finding anything pre-China Farish does not particularly like unitrack rail joiners.  They're not as flat as peco joiners are and the pizza cutter wheels tend to ride up (even though the rail tops are level).  Looks like I'll need to re-wheel some of my stock :doh:

    No pre-China Farish (so far), but an old Lima Mk1 coach I picked up really bounces about over Unitrack points. (Not that I intend to run it, it was going cheap and I was curious about olde N-stuff).

I notice all my items with pizza cutter wheels often "bounce" to some extent over the joiners (I've tried pushing them down).  The only thing which actually de-rails is a Farish HST MK 3 and the unpowered HST car -sometimes it makes it round a few times, but the bouncing makes it run a tad jerky.  They'll de-rail every time when being pushed though.  No problems whatsoever with newer Farish and Peco plastic wheeled stock.  I got some packs of replacement Farish wheels of E-Bay cheap enough so swapping a few things over.  It's maybe not a general issue with the Kato track, just maybe one thing to be aware of.

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Re: Kato Unitrack - Hints and Tips
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2015, 10:59:50 am »
Ah, sorry, "tell a lie guys", I did notice something now I come to think of it. Some of my locos give a "thud" sound on the occasional (and I really mean occasional" rail join - this could well be an issue if the wheel contacting the joiner.

Sorry I haven't looked in detail yet, but it's definitely interesting. As I said no derailments yet (please no, it 1.57m off the ground!) but this is something to be investigated.

Anyone else reading this who can share their thoughts with Pizza Cutter wheels on Kato track, either finding it derails or stays on? Malc ... you there?

I'm wondering if there's certain track this happens to, certain rail joiners (different batch?) I cannot imagine why, but just trying to think why we could be having variable experiences.

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