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Author Topic: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0  (Read 1354 times)

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Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« on: October 30, 2017, 05:19:44 am »
Out of interest, what is the likely price (in GBP) of an N-Scale Minitrix Db class 52 2-10-0, and where would be the best place to purchase one?

Hattons or...?

Note: I do not have access to e-bay.

Thank you.
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Re: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2017, 08:22:24 am »
Do you want the very old Minitrix version, or a more recent improved model?
For the best price check
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Re: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2017, 08:29:09 am »
Hattons would not be my choice as they don't show any Minitrix 52 in stock. :no:

You will have your reasons why you don't want to use ebay but the last Minitrix 52 dates from around 2011 (no. 12325) and I doubt that you will find a dealer who still has one in stock. Does it have to be a Minitrix? This is a very old model (the first one dates from 1973), and while the valve gear and wheels have been improved in the 1990s, the crude boiler and cabin were still from the old moulds on the last issue.

More recently, Fleischmann also made a 52 - but that is also out of production.

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Re: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2017, 05:56:49 pm »
Thank you folks for your replies.

The reason I asked was because I currently run one which has proven to be very reliable and was after another to supplement it.  I had not realised that it was such an 'elderly' esign, yet despite that detail, my example recently put in 24 hours of continuous running over three days at an exhibition it attended.

Since an 'upgrade' would seem to be looming on the horizon (due to its age), the same question now applies to the Fleischmann example:

How much, and from whom?

Thank you in advance. 


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Re: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2017, 12:06:19 am »
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not easy to find used stuff without access to ebay IMO, 

but...

How about this:

https://modellbahn-shop.online/Spur-N-Minitrix-51-2051-00-Schlepptenderdampflok-BR-52-2869-DB-OVP-5426A/en

There is also the below, which has alot of links to ebay but some are not :
http://www.gebraucht-kaufen.de/minitrix-br-52-gebraucht-kaufen.


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Re: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2017, 12:10:45 am »
while the valve gear and wheels have been improved in the 1990s, the crude boiler and cabin were still from the old moulds on the last issue.

I consider  a Kriegslok to be one of the locos where 'crude' old fashioned N gauge upper bodywork is absolutely not an issue, since the real Kriegsloks were very 'basic' in themselves, being rather the point at the time of their manufacture.


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Re: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2017, 01:49:18 am »
Gordon

Thank you - that is what i had in mind and the price 'appears' to be within my budget (even allowing for the exchange rate differences) .

I'll follow it up..

BTW: The 'Kreigslok's' concept fits in well with my RR - simple, easy to maintain and cheap to operate (especially where there are adequate and extensive local coal supplies). When running on a small Public Carrier railway in a small and remote island nation in the late Twentieth-Century, what is there not to like?

(That's my excuse anyway... :) )
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Re: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2017, 09:33:41 am »
I consider  a Kriegslok to be one of the locos where 'crude' old fashioned N gauge upper bodywork is absolutely not an issue, since the real Kriegsloks were very 'basic' in themselves, being rather the point at the time of their manufacture.

The same could be said about the smooth, streamlined bodies of an A4 Pacific or an EMD F7 or a Pennsy GG-1. But the difference is clearly visible between an old Minitrix A4 and the Dapol, an old Minitrix F7 and an Intermountain, or an old Arnold GG-1 and the Kato version - and also between the Minitrix and the Fleischmann 52s (photos of the Fleischmann 715201 can be found here: http://www.1zu160.net/scripte/forum/forum_show.php?id=589392 if Komata wants to compare with his 52.
One can decide that the extra detail or a 5-pole motor with flywheel(s) that the newer models include is not necessary, and that's perfectly fine with me.
I don't have a Fleischmann 52 but some Minitrix 52s, and they are certainly reliable and will pull trains for the next decades like they have done in the past 44 years. I am not so convinced that the current Fleischmann locos will be that long-lasting, and the Fleischmann 52 will probably not be bought for just 59.

I didn't want for Komata to be disappointed, and in the first post it wasn't clear that he already has a Minitrix 52. I mentioned the crude boiler detailing as I remembered a thread on the German 1zu160 forum where a buyer was unhappy with his then-new Minitrix 52. I have looked for that thread, and that was already in 2005 - six years before the Fleischmann 52 was released. (http://www.1zu160.net/scripte/forum/forum_show.php?id=136050)
(But then, a model which doesn't get criticized on 1zu160 has not yet been produced in our scale. :no: )

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Re: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2017, 05:04:59 pm »
Hi,
i had a 52 Flesichmann tender drive.....no good absolutely....going back I would purchased a Minitrix ..

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Re: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2017, 04:10:58 pm »
here appears to be one for sale here - price illegible!

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39280.new#new

may be worth a call to the shop mentioned?
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Re: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2017, 12:04:33 am »
here appears to be one for sale here - price illegible!

It's a class 23 not a kriegslok, as has been mentioned on the other thread.



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Re: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2017, 10:16:14 am »
Quote from: Gordon
It's a class 23 not a kriegslok

It can be both... ;D



(from www.ebay.com/itm/N-Gauge-Arnold-Rapido-German-WWII-Camouflaged-2-6-2-Locomotive-amp-Tender-/263221943008)

(The BR 23 was built from 1950 to 1959 :doh:)

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Re: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2017, 07:07:49 am »
 Someone threw their money away.
The very old Arnold Rapido pseudo-Br23 from the 1960s, the prototype dates from the early 1950s.
Even when Arnold updated their Br23 in the mid 1980s, the Fleischmann Br23 outclassed it.

I have an old-spec boxed (a cardboard box!) Minitrix Br52 in my stock box somewhere. I'll check it out and perhaps we can do a deal.
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Re: Price of an N-scale Minitrix DB Class 52 2-10-0
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2017, 05:04:31 pm »
Hattons have a pre-owned one in stock. I think I paid 12 for mine from the original run circa 1977. I think I'll stick with that.

http://www.hattons.co.uk/333764/Minitrix_12409_SD_Class_BR_52_3329_2_10_0_of_the_DB_Pre_owned_inconsistent_runner_cracked_case/StockDetail.aspx

 

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