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Offline polo2k

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4-4-0
« on: January 14, 2012, 02:37:31 am »
Hi all, id like to build a particular locomotive

Its the stereotypical 4-4-0 with the long con rods. Does anyone make a model of this?
I have some bachman locos from the early 90`s and dont like their running qualities. Even if it means so hacking about, id like to use something that runs much better!

Does anyone have any suggestions for a donor loco?

heres the locos id like to build:

http://youtu.be/AQyffDvVkKw
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Re: 4-4-0
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2012, 06:03:03 am »
The Bachmann model of the American 4- 4- 0 were and still are total garbage, they never ran properly and I doubt that will ever change.

You could try the Model Power version and if the 4-4-0 runs as well as some of the other Model Power steamers I have seen running in the past it may be worth a try.

http://www.blwnscale.com/Model%20Power%204-4-0%20American.htm

Although BLW are sold out they are still available on some of the eBay stores and possibly other retailers.

Here is a review of the model.

http://www.visi.com/~spookshow/mp440.html

Here is another couple of retailers with stock.

http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/N-Scale-4-4-0-American-s/1735.htm

http://www.hobbylinc.com/cgi-bin/s8.cgi?cat_s=UBG&tag2_i=610
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 06:12:35 am by oldrailbug, Reason: added to reply »
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Re: 4-4-0
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2012, 10:27:41 am »
Thanks for the in depth reply dave,

Ill check that out. Looking at the pics quickly, it looks a little short in the front so I would stretch that.
When you say they are rough runners, is it mechanical, electrical, something else ?
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Re: 4-4-0
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2012, 09:57:53 pm »
Its all here

http://www.visi.com/~spookshow/bach440a.html

We have found the motors only last about 50 hours and they suffer from dreadful pickup problems.
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Re: 4-4-0
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2012, 12:28:12 am »
I've always fancied getting one of these engines along with some of the early style coaches. I wonder how easy it would be to replicate Casey Jones' engine.

Alex :wave:

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Re: 4-4-0
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2012, 06:55:40 am »
« Last Edit: January 15, 2012, 06:57:38 am by oldrailbug »
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Re: 4-4-0
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2012, 08:01:25 am »
I can't imagine this is of any use at all Polo, but just in case you are thinking outside the box, there is the Union Mills 4-4-0, of which, this is an example.
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=1454

Union Mills 4-4-0 s share the same chassis I believe. You wouldhave to manufacturer a different body, the wheels are probably the wrong the size, the con rods would need altering, etc etc. The drive is in the tender, so the tender is often over scale (even more so for1:160th), oh and of course, youd have to find somewhere for the dcc chip... but they are good runners.

And I don't even know if Colin would sell you just a chassis. On ebay they tend to sell for about the price of a new one, so a second hand one would be cost prohibitive. Basically, ....I wouldn't bother!

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Re: 4-4-0
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2012, 09:22:34 am »
He sold me a tender chassis...... :thumbsup:

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Re: 4-4-0
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2012, 10:46:48 am »
Hi Alex here is a Casey Jones 10 wheeler style loco for you.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bachmann-N-Scale-N-Y-C-Baldwin-4-6-0-Steam-Locomotive-1235-Tender-51453-/280766210510

http://www.thefavoritespot.com/p-2389-bachmann-n-scale-train-steam-4-6-0-ten-wheeler-dcc-equipped-black-with-red-white-trim-51452.aspx

http://www.blwnscale.com/Bachmann%204-6-0%20Steam.htm

These little 10 wheelers by Bachmann are a totaly different kettle of fish than the 4-4-0s, they are great little runners.

Here is a review.     http://www.visi.com/~spookshow/loco/spec460.html


Thanks for that Dave. I have a Consolidation 2-8-0 and it's a great runner. It's been years since I saw Casey Jones and couldn't remember the style of engine he drove, thought it was a 4-4-0.

Alex  :wave:

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Re: 4-4-0
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2012, 11:48:54 am »
The Farish 4P 4-4-0 is generally a decent runner with solid motor that will run for a lot longer than 50 hours, so may be another option.

Cheers,
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Re: 4-4-0
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 12:40:29 pm »
got a lot on right now so this model has had to take a back seat. lots of good info on this post thought so ill definatly be re-reading it when this loco gets green lighted..
Thanks all!
Cheers
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