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Author Topic: Farish Weedkilling set  (Read 1973 times)

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Farish Weedkilling set
« on: August 07, 2016, 03:47:33 pm »
Like many, I have the Farish Weedkilling train. 2 x Class 20 Hunslet Barclay with the 2 x Mk1 Coaches and the 3 x Tanks.

Question is, what is needed to complete the set-up? I have seen photos of what looked like 4 x Mk1's or perhaps something like an SR GUV.

Any views on what would be suitable? I have seen a very good representation of the Fison's train in green with 2 x modified Mk1's.

Just wondered if anyone had views on what could be done for the Chipman set?
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Re: Farish Weedkilling set
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2016, 09:57:51 pm »
Its not a really difficult conversion but there is a little cutting necessary. For the storage/pump vehicle a standard mk1 SK or SO can be used (the current release with the relief detail is best) with one bay cut out and replaced with a roller shutter door. Then its just a coat of paint including on the windows (the top lights should be left un painted). The spraying car is more difficult as its a steel sided model and farish do the wood sided model which for me looks pretty close (there is always scratchbuilding). You could infill using very thin plasticard (which i might try) or rubbing down and replacing the strapping which i admit is quite drastic but there isnt an easy way of doing the conversion.

|The was an article for building the train the 2015 Rail Express year book.

Heres the photo showing the work on the storage coach.




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Re: Farish Weedkilling set
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2016, 10:14:22 pm »
The correct SR van was a former Scenery/Elephant van - I don't know of a kit or how close it is to any of the Farish offerings.

Steven Bateman wrote an article sometime ago about using the Hurst etches.



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Re: Farish Weedkilling set
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2016, 11:57:06 am »
The Hurst etches (not currently listed on the Hurst Models website) are for the AgrEvo Weedkiller Train. The Mk1 vehicles in the train are different to what Farish have released with their train packs.

Six class 20s were refurbished & repainted by Hunslet Barclay for use on weed killer trains.
20 901 disc standard fuel tanks
TOPSNameHeadcode Typefuel tanks
20 901Nancydiskstandard
20 902Janis (Lorna froom 5/89)diskextended
20 903Lorna (Alison from 5/89)diskextended
20 904Janisdiskstandard
20 905IonaDominoextended
20 906GeorginaDominostandard

'1 & '4 generally ran together on the Chipman trains. '2 & '3 were most often used on the AgrEvo trains. 5 & 6 were spares.

'2, '3 & '5 had additional fuel tanks fitted to the sole bar just in front of the cab.

After they were withdrawn from the weedkiller trains, most (all?) were bought by DRS for use on nuclear flask trains.

Happy modelling.

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Re: Farish Weedkilling set
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2016, 12:37:29 pm »
After a bit more digging I'm not 100% sure that the SR vans ever ran with the Mk1s in the livery variant (Nomix branded) that Farish have done, but if they did then they were:

CC99014 ex S4600S was one of the SR Scenery van (dia 3182) - picture in the Chipmans Nomix train bottom of page here: http://www.semgonline.com/vandw/utilvans02.html
CC99015 ex S4589S same design

Both still existed a few years back and are either at Watercress line or IoW.

CRT kits does a 4mm and 7mm etched kit for it - if there are enough people interested I wonder if it is worth asking if they will scale it down (though being a shot down brass kit I would caution that I'd guess it will be quite fiddly to build).

A few pics of some parts of the train here: http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/headlines---latest-reports-and-photographs/remembering-the-nomix-chipman-weedkilling-train-seen-at-st-erth-on-3rd-april-1992-photographs-by-andrew-triggs

Farish did:

CC99016 (ex BSK 21275)
CC99017 (ex TSO? 4066)

I think the missing mk1 coaches are - 99018 doesn't look too bad a conversion from one of the Farish coaches (might have to get a second set):

CC99018 (ex 4393)
CC99019 (ex 1870)

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Re: Farish Weedkilling set
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2016, 02:47:43 pm »
Is this the same as the Farish Livery?


http://www.departmentals.com/photo/99014
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Re: Farish Weedkilling set
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2016, 04:57:49 pm »
Many thanks for the info Mike. Good research there. I do have a second set so maybe I need someone to do a bit of modification for me!

Cheers
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Re: Farish Weedkilling set
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2017, 02:27:35 am »
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Re: Farish Weedkilling set
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2017, 12:59:54 am »
@captainelectra I don't suppose you have considered doing a wrap for coach of this colour scheme, but the one with the blocked out windows. I have a couple of the older coaches that are printed sides (perfect for the electra vinyls) and I think whilst the roller could just be outlined (I haven't got the skills to introduce a actual roller door). which would help fill out the set currently available by graham farish.

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Re: Farish Weedkilling set
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2018, 02:09:10 pm »
So far I haven't had the courage to plunge a knife into a pristine coach. Still prevaricating I'm afraid.

 :-[ :-[
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Re: Farish Weedkilling set
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 08:20:09 pm »
So far I haven't had the courage to plunge a knife into a pristine coach. Still prevaricating I'm afraid.

 :-[ :-[

I concur, If i could get a vinyl of the partially covered Mk1 (CK?) with the roller printed on for the older farish coaches, that would probably make me happy! That said, If i'm using an older style coach, making a cut or two probably won't hurt as much!

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Re: Farish Weedkilling set
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2018, 07:39:28 am »
DEMU did a series of three articles many years ago on making up the Fison's set. I have a scan of it in my hard drive somewhere .......

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Re: Farish Weedkilling set
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2018, 10:23:43 am »
I plan on starting this conversion myself at some point this year. I have the 20's, the twin coach pack with coaches 99016 & 99017 also the 3 TTA water tanks. I have already started to re-work 99016 & 99017, well it's just a case of removing details really and the corridor connector at the yellow end of 99017. This should be plated over completely, then resprayed yellow. A lot of the under frame gubbins should also be removed from 99016 & 017 as well the the ends (steps etc) Roof vents also need to removed and re-positioned on 99016 to represent an ex BCK.

I have a spare Mk1 which will make up the third coach. This was 99018 (MK1 SO Chemical stores coach with roller shutter doors)

As regards the ex SR scenery van, this was 99014. After a little research I have chosen to use the chassis and bogies from a Farish (374-630) SR bogie B 50' luggage van. I shall be throwing the body away and starting from scratch building a new one to represent the spray coach.

Hoping to crack on a little more with this soon. Due to time and customer commissions, unfortunately I cannot compile a thread, I'll just show off the complete model once complete.

Cheers
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Re: Farish Weedkilling set
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2018, 01:29:32 pm »
Anthony, are you representing the Fison's train or the Chipman set?

I know there were several sets around the country with differing combinations.

The one I'm looking to replicate is https://www.flickr.com/photos/158722/27919976366/in/photolist-cvdT7J-9J8FHv-8u8F95-SjV243-6Ec3Ho-GeK1R-mtm32B-mtm3UZ-EySvK3-YeGMXa-upZwy2-rz36iX-BqsBMR-ARVzKx-vwGYJp-PbcvoH-v7yu5W-svNWrx-KjT8aC-Ps28hT-voBeH9-rN4bmz-JQ6xEc-x8z6Q1-NEw6bS-xqLis6-ruoHqy-Q5tRkB-HE8vZy-21EMEuA-NCRFNM-Jrfcuw-JxcbfS-NzWfzt-AvoSLs-Jxc62q-NHo9XN-NEvgAw-wxmb4y-MKHP4x-NEvnJy-xFMGw4-Ngevz7-MKVJTW-MKGP2k-L8ypgU-MvrZ4F-NNo2YK-CFnUtL-riwztp

Chipman set around 1992/4 time when 99014 still ran with the train. That photo shows a 4th Mk1 which replaced 99014 around 1994 time. The Mk1 in question is 99019 (ex RMB) This became the new spray vehicle replacing the aged 99014.

Cheers
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