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Which Flangeway clearance would be preferred?

Large 1mm Flangeways, most RTR locos & stock can run through unmodified
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Author Topic: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?  (Read 166441 times)

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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2012, 08:58:57 pm »
You can't actually set all UK stock to NMRA back to back, some vehicles foul if you do that, and the Dapol coach half axles will split very easily and there are no spares available.

I don't actually think its a big deal - you need to set wheels more towards NMRA spec and that is true for old style wheels on Kato track too. However religious following of the NMRA spec is just as hard if not harder than going 2fs, which is a whole world better (especially for 1:148 scale)
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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2012, 11:29:04 am »
I've been watching this topic with interest as I believe this is a good idea of Wayne's to propose the manufacture of code 40 points. I personally like the idea of producing the whole system of code 40 as then it would be available to everyone and not just exclusively with the Easitrac system to members of the 2mm association.

Also reading with interest of the various contributors to this thread there seems to be a lot of theories as to what would work and what wouldn't work. As an engineer, the only way to find out is to produce a test batch of points, after taking on board all the comments and ideas, and thoroughly test them and tweak as necessary.

I wish you luck in your venture Wayne.

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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2012, 12:15:47 pm »
Following the thread with interest, I understand that Easitrak has some appeal. Still, I think that N Gauge comes from 9 mm and that this is a very sensible gauge for track. But this is my very personal and probably continental biased point of view. For me the compromise lies more in the 1:148 scale that I'm prepared to accept for rolling stock.  ;)

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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2012, 12:23:18 pm »
I've been watching this topic with interest as I believe this is a good idea of Wayne's to propose the manufacture of code 40 points. I personally like the idea of producing the whole system of code 40 as then it would be available to everyone and not just exclusively with the Easitrac system to members of the 2mm association.

There is of course a simple solution to Easitrac availability - join the 2mm Association! Apart from Easitrac there is actually a lot of useful bits and pieces.

Still, I think that N Gauge comes from 9 mm and that this is a very sensible gauge for track. But this is my very personal and probably continental biased point of view. For me the compromise lies more in the 1:148 scale that I'm prepared to accept for rolling stock.

But 9.42 is actually closer to accurate (9.7mm) and makes no difference to running and look so much better, so I don't really see the advantage in stipulating 9mm for plain track...

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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2012, 01:00:33 pm »
The extra slop gave me issues with coupling alignment, in my testing. It also increased the chance of the body not running straight on tender drive locos.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2012, 01:23:52 pm by Wayne Kinney »
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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2012, 04:11:43 pm »
But 9.42 is actually closer to accurate (9.7mm) and makes no difference to running and look so much better, so I don't really see the advantage in stipulating 9mm for plain track...

Cheers, Mike
Actually my subtle point was that 9.0 mm is a good match for 8.96875 mm.
I fully understand that both scales 1:148 and 1:152 have a history in modelling UKs railways and that this is not going to change in the near future. And this is fine (unintended pun). But I'm not playing isolated in a cellar either. On plain 9 mm track the FS160 fiNe-scale models of by FREMO mates run, but they will not on 9.42 .  Currently I'm not prepared to tear all bridges down to my mates modelling continental railways. That's why it's 9 mm track gauge for me and if there would improved british looking track with this gauge be available I'd happily buy it. However, there is always the chance that eventually a small diorama with 9.42 mm track gets build in my cellar.

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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2012, 04:29:17 pm »
On plain 9 mm track the FS160 fiNe-scale models of by FREMO mates run, but they will not on 9.42

Ah right - gotcha!

That is an even more niche market for your particular circumstances!



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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2012, 08:18:53 pm »
Hi Guys,

I just had a very nice chat on the phone with Alan Smith, who did all of the design work on the 'Easitrac' range.

I have let him know my plans and he is now getting me in touch with the toolmaker.

I should have some CAD renders to show in a few days time :)
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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2012, 10:14:22 am »
Ah right - gotcha!

That is an even more niche market for your particular circumstances!

Yep, FS160 is a tiny market sector in Britain and I suspect even a lot smaller than 2mmFS; after all it has little relevance to British 1:148 N gauge modelling but is more popular on the continent where their models are made to 1:160 scale.

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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2012, 02:45:16 pm »
Hi Guys,

What type of sleeper (or should I say timbering) formation what you guys prefer, Square on to main road, or Equalised?

« Last Edit: June 24, 2013, 10:51:33 am by Wayne Kinney »
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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2012, 03:12:56 pm »
Square on looks better to my eye Wayne...... :thumbsup:

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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2012, 03:13:41 pm »
I prefer them straight to the main then when suitable, perpendicular to the spur.
This minimises wonky sleepers.
Could you offer one type, then an option pack to remove certain sleepers and replace with the others to give owners the choice?

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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2012, 03:52:44 pm »
Definitely square of the two.
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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #58 on: January 07, 2012, 10:00:05 am »
Thanks Guys,

Looks like most (taking into account feedback from other forums) modellers would prefer 'Square On'.

It is possible to produce both, but it is more stock to hold. I will firstly produce 'Square on' and consider 'Equalized' After.
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Re: 'Gauging' Interesting- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2012, 09:33:36 am »
Hi Guys,

I am contemplating offering 2 different Flangeway clearances so the modeller can choose. Either Large 1mm Flangeways, most RTR locos & stock can run through unmodified, or Finer 0.77mm Flangeways, RTR locos & stock will need back to backs adjusting with a Gauge.



I would produce 2 sets of etched frogs for the different clearances. The modeller simply chooses which version they want when ordering from the website.

The check rails will be gauged for 1mm flangeway gap out of the box (positioned via the check rail chairs), the chairs would need cutting into 2 and trimmed for the finer flangeway gap.

This will double my tooling cost for producing etched frogs, but I believe this is the best way to go, what do you guys think?
« Last Edit: June 24, 2013, 10:51:49 am by Wayne Kinney »
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