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Author Topic: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series  (Read 37205 times)

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #570 on: February 10, 2018, 07:29:49 pm »
£10 cheaper on a product costing less than £80 all in... why would anyone laugh that’s a good saving...

I'm putting it towards the "Hi Roof Van"  :) ;) :D ;D :laugh: :bounce:

Mike B

Just bought my Albula GE 4/4 for £35.00 plus post. Interesting to see if I get stung. Are you keeping the spare body you will have after the other arrives as I am looking for a spare.

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #571 on: February 10, 2018, 07:54:38 pm »
The paperwork was in Japanese and Yen, but typed. Where did you get one for £35? (Message me or they will all want one!). :)

About the spare body. I won't know about it for a while as first it has to arrive and then come off intact, a bit of a feat I think. And then it has to donate some bits of itself. When I've done that I'll breath a sigh of relief and then worry about the body. :-\

On a different subject did you see the 651, buffet car and 2nd coach go through? I rather wanted the buffet car but got "itchy" so came second! But the price for coach, talk about Red Mist! :admiration:

Happy Modelling,

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #572 on: February 11, 2018, 06:23:11 pm »
Something different now. What is the distance between tracks at an RhB 3 track passing station?  :dunce:

Planning! :'(

Thanks in Advance,

Mike Beard.

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #573 on: February 11, 2018, 07:27:29 pm »
Something different now. What is the distance between tracks at an RhB 3 track passing station?  :dunce:

Planning! :'(

Thanks in Advance,

Mike Beard.

Not fixed AFAIK, and also depends on if you want old or modernised high platforms.

Absolutely hoping this does not sound churlish: may I humbly suggest there is some research you can undertake yourself.

Resources include:

1) RhB trackplan books published by Schweers & Wall (for the purpose of Bemo HOm originally)
2) the BEMO io (was Yahoo) group; for questions not strictly related to Kato N

and the simplest of all

3) email RhB. They will answer within a few days

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #574 on: February 13, 2018, 10:08:17 am »
I've just had a Kato Basic Glacier Express set come through "unmolested".  :laugh3:  Unfortunately the seller seems to have sold all of them. :sorrysign:

I'm working on distance between tracks in stations. The book "Gebirgsbahn in Graubunden" is useful. ???

Mike Beard.
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #575 on: February 13, 2018, 10:30:00 am »
I've just had a Kato Basic Glacier Express set come through "unmolested".  :laugh3:Unfortunately the seller seems to have sold all of them. :sorrysign:

I'm working on distance between tracks in stations. The book "Gebirgsbahn in Graubunden" is useful. ???

Mike Beard.

Also worth having the Eisenbahn Journal bookazines 'Die RhB' . Although dated now they are not as old as the book you mention.

eg:

https://www.amazon.de/Die-RhB-Eisenbahn-Journal-Special/dp/3896104705


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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #576 on: February 13, 2018, 05:25:08 pm »
So, I took a deep breath and asked our friends at the BEMO site what they thought and the general opinion was that 4,000mm between track centres full size was enough. So that works out to about 2,000mm between adjacent cars if they are both Glacier Express cars. I thought that was a a bit scant so after a lot of calculations and standing about counting my fingers etc I concluded that in 1/150th scale a dimension of 35mm is about right.  :confused1:

35mm just happens to be the difference in radius between a Peco #2 curve and a Peco #3 curve.  :o

Funny Old World - Watch this space as they say. :camera:

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #577 on: February 13, 2018, 06:40:41 pm »
This is where the significant inaccuracy of the track gauge matters.

I wouldn’t overthink it, you’ll never reconcile to prototype figures as the track is wrong in the first place. Unless you work track dimensions out using a 1:111 scale (for which the n gauge track would be the right size), but then you’ll probably have problems with overhang etc on parallel running lines, particularly with sharp curves.

Do what looks right to you.

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #578 on: February 13, 2018, 07:18:16 pm »
I'm ignoring the track gauge and working off track centres, it's the only sane way to do it. After all the vehicles sit on the track on their centrelines, it's just the gauge that's different - very different!

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #579 on: February 13, 2018, 09:20:00 pm »
But if you start looking at things like lineside structures (or platforms in stations) that's going to leave you insufficient space between running lines, because you've got extra track in the way.

Quite honestly the Peco spacing is quite reasonable (not the set track spacing), but as I say, you may need to ease it out on very sharp curves. You'd have to try with your longest vehicles.

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #580 on: February 13, 2018, 09:29:15 pm »
In my experience carriages tend to be wider than the track gauge. Therefore all you do is allow for the standard structure gauge but work off centre lines. That way the gauge becomes unimportant and generally the cross section of a vehicle will also cover the sleepers, except on crossings.

I hope this helps.

I have a ruck of both Peco and Kato track coming for various experiments in haulage capacity, and track spacings and I must make sure I order some replacement traction tyres!

Cheers,

Mike B

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #581 on: February 13, 2018, 09:38:54 pm »
FWIW 35mm centres sounds wide to me on plain line. IIRC the Streamline spacing is 26mm.

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #582 on: February 13, 2018, 09:40:01 pm »
If you are modelling the current era, then the Kato Glacier Express platforms give a good idea of the space between tracks if an up to date high platform is used.

In all other respects I agree with njee20, there is little point in overthinking or being too exact, IMO no-one will really notice the difference, because in N scale , it is the overall impression that outweighs most other things.

Worth having a look here:
http://www.sumidacrossing.org/ModelTrains/LowLevelPlatforms/
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #583 on: February 15, 2018, 12:36:52 pm »
Any updates on Kato Ge4/4II availability yet

Kato just updated their Product Schedule page, delivery date for the Ge 4/4 II is the 22 of February !

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #584 on: February 15, 2018, 01:22:39 pm »
And, of course, being Kato you believe them. So do Plaza Japan as they form part of a greater order than the two I've booked, and paid for!

Any news of the Glacier Express Add-On's supposedly available in May?

Thanks,

Mike Beard

 

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