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Author Topic: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series  (Read 16387 times)

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #225 on: December 22, 2017, 07:52:13 am »
Shouldn’t the roof on the Ge6/6 be silver?

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #226 on: December 22, 2017, 10:32:00 am »
Hi Folks,

I've had a very nasty experience buying from the "Japan Excite Store" via eBay worldwide. They advertised and I bought a RhB train. It consisted of 1 x Kato 3101, 1 x Kato 10-1413 and 1 x Kato 10-1414. What actually arrived was 1 x Kato 10-1413. They have not replied to any emails asking where the balance is. So if you'll take my advice you will treat this supplier with extreme caution. >:(

What I did get was lovely BTW. Happy Christmas, wish I was there in Switzerland not warm foggy England,

Mike Beard. :censored:
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #227 on: December 22, 2017, 11:36:57 am »
I really hope the rest turns up in a second shipment Mike to make your Christmas brighter.

I'll second your wish to be in Switzerland. :thumbsup:
Mike

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #228 on: December 22, 2017, 01:27:42 pm »
I've had a chat with eBay and essentually we will lodge a complaint against the supplier in order to get our money back.

I'm just adding a warning message as these guys still have very tempting offers on eBay and I'd rather others did not learn the hard, and expensive, way. >:(

Happy Christmas :beers:

Mike Beard

I'll third that - a small hotel near Filisur Station does it for this guy.

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #229 on: December 22, 2017, 04:58:36 pm »
Thanks Steve, that's the impression I was getting.
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I notice RMWeb has a thread on these with comment that the models are 'superb'., though the locos high priced to Kato if latter bought direct from Japan.

I shall email the company re delivery/availability outside Germany

N.B. The email address quoted on RMWeb for MDS is not valid. mDS website has a contact form, which is what I have used.


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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #230 on: December 22, 2017, 05:19:19 pm »
Thanks RG. :thumbsup: That makes two German retailers now listing them with Menzels Lokschuppen and MBK. The manufacturers themselves have not yet replied to my email enquiry to them about actual release times. :(
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« Reply #231 on: December 22, 2017, 08:22:08 pm »
Thanks RG. :thumbsup: That makes two German retailers now listing them with Menzels Lokschuppen and MBK. The manufacturers themselves have not yet replied to my email enquiry to them about actual release times. :(


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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #232 on: December 22, 2017, 08:43:46 pm »
Hi Folks,

The Kato locos look very neat but does anybody make replacement overhead collectors?

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #233 on: December 22, 2017, 09:12:39 pm »
If you mean the pantograph, then Kato themselves do some. The part numbers are in the early 400's, so for example, 11-405.  A google search will bring up various sellers, from Amazon to eBay etc.
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #234 on: December 23, 2017, 01:12:29 am »
Hi Folks,

I've had a very nasty experience buying from the "Japan Excite Store" via eBay worldwide. They advertised and I bought a RhB train. It consisted of 1 x Kato 3101, 1 x Kato 10-1413 and 1 x Kato 10-1414. What actually arrived was 1 x Kato 10-1413. They have not replied to any emails asking where the balance is. So if you'll take my advice you will treat this supplier with extreme caution. >:(

What I did get was lovely BTW. Happy Christmas, wish I was there in Switzerland not warm foggy England,

Mike Beard.

I notice they have a high proportion of negatives.

I recommend sticking to Plaza Japan, or even better stay outside of Ebay and shop direct with 1999.co.jp aka Hobby Search. Much more model orientated and never had any problems with them.


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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #235 on: December 23, 2017, 01:19:21 am »
Shouldn’t the roof on the Ge6/6 be silver?

It was a rush job to get it ready for the Boulogne show. As you can probably tell, the roof is not complete. For the purposes of the show it was quickest to give it one quick red spray and stick two random pantographs on it.


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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #236 on: December 25, 2017, 08:27:19 pm »
OK, it's Christmas Night and the BBC are broadcasting their worst.   Time to do some designing I think. There is no doubt that one way or another I'll have a Kato 3101 and both packs of EW1 coaches. Now the next question is "What to run them on?" So let us suppose a train consists of a nominal loco and 6 off EW1 coaches or their equivalent. I've noticed that Kato quote everything as being able to surmount a 5% grade. OK, joke over. What are the hauling charactoristics of these Kato locos on spirals? I assume they will easily haul a 6 to 8 coach train on the level but what radius spiral and what angle to be able to lift 6 coaches? Any info would be a start. In the end I can build an adjustable spiral but it would be nice to have some foreknowledge.

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #237 on: January 02, 2018, 02:18:49 am »
OK, it's Christmas Night and the BBC are broadcasting their worst.   Time to do some designing I think. There is no doubt that one way or another I'll have a Kato 3101 and both packs of EW1 coaches. Now the next question is "What to run them on?" So let us suppose a train consists of a nominal loco and 6 off EW1 coaches or their equivalent. I've noticed that Kato quote everything as being able to surmount a 5% grade. OK, joke over. What are the hauling charactoristics of these Kato locos on spirals? I assume they will easily haul a 6 to 8 coach train on the level but what radius spiral and what angle to be able to lift 6 coaches? Any info would be a start. In the end I can build an adjustable spiral but it would be nice to have some foreknowledge.

Happy New Year and Thanks in Advance,

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I tend not to have space for inclines so can't help much, but the Kato Ge4/4III are pretty darn powerful and will easily haul the 8 EWI coaches round a 183 radius curve, which I imagine causes similar drag to an incline.

It is worth noting that in the last few years the standard Albula set has been 6 EW plus a Ds van, so not too heavy a rake IMO (and hence my keenness to use a shapeways Ds van with my Kato EWI


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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #238 on: January 02, 2018, 08:22:59 am »
Even the sharpest curve is no comparison to a gradient whatsoever. Most Kato locos have excellent haulage, so I’d guess the Ge4/4 will have no issues with 6-8 coaches on a 2, possibly even 3% gradient. Steeper tends to cause problems, but again you’d have to try it as it’ll depend on a number of factors.

Weight is the single biggest factor, if there’s extra room in the body you could add more.

Mock up a gradient with your stock and try it.

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #239 on: January 02, 2018, 12:26:46 pm »
So, the Kato 10-1145 and the10-1414 arrived today from Train Trax.  :thankyousign: They look really good. Interestingly the 10-1414 box has push-outs in the foam to allow for the full eight coaches to be in one box. Good thinking. One thing I'll have to do is make up a sticker with the coach number on it and put it on the underneath of the coach so I know which is which. The loco has traction tyres. Has anybody bought any yet? I'm obviously going to change out the loco rapidos for the semi-permanent couplings and it seems that kits are available to shorten the gap between panoramics. Has anybody tried installing anything more discrete than the Rapido couplers that has an amount of automatic function?

Now I have a handfull of stock I can try out various grades on my 4 foot x 2 foot test track. That's always fun, like being a kid again seeing what angle the loco skids at!

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