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Author Topic: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated  (Read 18197 times)

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #135 on: March 05, 2017, 08:54:17 pm »
Hi Webbo - hope you are well?

I always forget that the layout info is buried 'online' from the American railroad threads, but Ive found you again.  Nice job on the motel.  meantime, Ive been driving up and down the M9 a bit recently and thinking of you. (ah..)

Only as I was wondering how you had got along with finding an excuse to include your refinery kit, or indeed if you had just given up?  Reason i ask is this image here:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@56.0768307,-3.8758931,3a,75y,105.59h,76.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sy08b73uqbTL_XM0QzrAaMg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en



this is actually a precast concrete yard (Plean Precast, Stirling), but it looms our from the countryside just like a small refinery kit seems to.  I'll try and find an image looking from the M9 as thats where you get the greatest contrast between green fields and sudden smoking plant!

edit: oh look, here is a google image from the motorway, that completely fails to capture the apparent largeness and sudden unexpectedness of the plant as you drive along:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@56.0671289,-3.8751338,3a,69y,11.63h,94.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYX49OQH5JYjyIvKUVpRBaA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #136 on: March 05, 2017, 11:29:52 pm »
Thanks Donald

You have provided me with encouragement. Things like refineries are best out of town and mine will be (maybe) on the edge of town. After all, who wants a smelly, smoky industrial complex in town? Having asked this, I quite like the things so it wouldn't bother me.

I haven't made any decisions on whether the refinery is to be or not to be. I'm sort of hoping that this decision will be delivered from above or in my dreams (as with Dats and his Foamcore). Basically this is procrastination borne of cowardice about making a decision.

Webbo

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #137 on: March 06, 2017, 06:23:21 am »
Hi Webbo - hope you are well?

I always forget that the layout info is buried 'online' from the American railroad threads, but Ive found you again.  Nice job on the motel.  meantime, Ive been driving up and down the M9 a bit recently and thinking of you. (ah..)

Only as I was wondering how you had got along with finding an excuse to include your refinery kit, or indeed if you had just given up?  Reason i ask is this image here:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@56.0768307,-3.8758931,3a,75y,105.59h,76.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sy08b73uqbTL_XM0QzrAaMg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en



this is actually a precast concrete yard (Plean Precast, Stirling), but it looms our from the countryside just like a small refinery kit seems to.  I'll try and find an image looking from the M9 as thats where you get the greatest contrast between green fields and sudden smoking plant!

edit: oh look, here is a google image from the motorway, that completely fails to capture the apparent largeness and sudden unexpectedness of the plant as you drive along:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@56.0671289,-3.8751338,3a,69y,11.63h,94.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYX49OQH5JYjyIvKUVpRBaA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Donald

The second image has you say Donald doesnít give a great perspective of the refinery, but the one from the railway line is great, maybe Webbo could do his by a line just outside of town.  :beers:

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #138 on: March 06, 2017, 06:32:45 am »
The second image has you say Donald doesnít give a great perspective of the refinery, but the one from the railway line is great, maybe Webbo could do his by a line just outside of town.  :beers:
I sat go for it.  You've done a lot of work and just outside town would be ideal.
With kind regards
Laurence

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #139 on: March 11, 2017, 08:14:41 pm »
Thanks Donald

You have provided me with encouragement. Things like refineries are best out of town and mine will be (maybe) on the edge of town. After all, who wants a smelly, smoky industrial complex in town? Having asked this, I quite like the things so it wouldn't bother me.

I haven't made any decisions on whether the refinery is to be or not to be. I'm sort of hoping that this decision will be delivered from above or in my dreams (as with Dats and his Foamcore). Basically this is procrastination borne of cowardice about making a decision.

Webbo

Go for it Webbo, you know deep down that you want a refinery. :D

Great work with the walther kit, excellent painting. Thanks for the tip regarding the painting, not the 38 deg bit, but the lack of adhesion of acrylics. I have detailed mine with enamel paint and need to add some weathering. I was thinking of doing this directly with acrylics, re-plan required me thinks.


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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #140 on: March 28, 2017, 08:38:39 am »
Hi folks, here is a little update on Deadwood.

I've just completed building my latest kit which is D's diner by Woodland Scenics, a fast food drive-in. This kit has a huge number of details including 2 car hops on skates, a convertible with driver, 5 trash (rubbish) bins, 2 flower tubs, 4 bicycles, 1 fire hydrant, 2 bench seats, 1 picnic table, 1 soda pop crate, and a menu board. By far most of my time spent building this kit (which was quite a lot) was painting the details.

I was really looking forward to building this kit especially as Woodland Scenics has such a good reputation, but was disappointed in a number of ways. The roof of the main building was warped and despite my efforts with C-clamps, I was not able to glue it up entirely straight. The details were made of some sort of plastic which was soft and had almost a waxy feel. The paint really didn't stick very well and when the detail was flexed it came off in flakes. Once the details were glued in position things were fine. The axles on the car were too long so the wheels would not fit in the wheel wells properly. This was also my first experience with dry decals. Even though they stick really well and look great they are not so forgiving in application as wet decals. For starters, one can't just slide them around when they are applied. I managed to muck up my first go of the D's Diner sign. Luckily, this foul up is really only noticeable to me after a bit of cosmetic work.

On the plus side, the Woodland Scenics kit has a lot of great details including window blinds that haven't been all pulled up straight and signs in the windows. I'm about to start a Walthers kit of an old Dairy Queen. It's going to be a lot easier to build, but it doesn't have 1/4 of the detal that D's Diner has.

I'd be interested in hearing of other's experience with Woodlands Scenics kits. One can buy these kits in made-up form. They cost twice as much as the build-it-yourself kits, but considering the amount of time I've put into mine (not to mention the aggravation), the extra expense is more than reasonable.






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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #141 on: March 28, 2017, 09:13:45 am »
I think it looks brilliant Webbo, just a pity they cost so much, i havenít tried one yet but if i see one that may go on the layout maybe i will give it a go.            :thumbsup:

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #142 on: March 28, 2017, 11:17:15 am »
Hi Ian, I'm slowly working my way through the excellent layouts on the forum and today you drew the short straw, so prepare yourself for some stern criticism.

Fantastic work! The lefthand mountain scenery is absolutely beautiful and the overall layout is stunning. That early video of the whole circuit was so convincing that I did a what-the-he... double-take when that giant crosshead screw loomed into view :D. Every time I read one of these build threads I learn so much and your's was no exception.

As for the refinery, trust your instincts; you haven't made a false step so far.

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #143 on: March 28, 2017, 11:36:48 am »
Gawd, Ian, what a carry on!

But, as you say, half the price.

Mind you, you've done an excellent job, and can be justifiably proud. :thumbsup:

It's going to look great on your layout, putting lights in it?

George
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #144 on: March 28, 2017, 01:47:10 pm »
Another outstanding job, Webbo!!
I didn't notice any fault on the roof.
Excellent modelling skills!!

Dats
Best regards with my annoying moving signature.
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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #145 on: March 28, 2017, 04:00:41 pm »
Excellent job Webbo. Looking good.

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #146 on: March 28, 2017, 08:13:46 pm »
I bought 3 of the Woodland Scenics Landmark Structure kits in Baltimore last October but they are still in the "to do" pile.
One of them will required for the layout in the next few weeks, so I'll let you know how I get on with it.

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #147 on: March 29, 2017, 12:22:06 am »
Dats, the not-so-good side of the D's Diner sign is on the other side in the photograph and the warp in the roof is not noticeable unless you know its there.

George, all those little yellow dots around the signs are supposed to represent light globes. To light them up is a challenge way beyond me.

Pete, whether the refinery is to be or not to be is a question that I've putting off. I'm down to three alternatives for the space though:
 1. Refinery + oil tanks + loading stage
 2. Oil tanks + loading stage (i.e. a petroleum distribution depot)
 3. A junk yard
If the space available were outside the tracks or a bit bigger, I would definitely go for the refinery option. Ditape has a very nice looking arrangement for her refinery. We'll see. Hopefully, my instincts will wake up and tell me what to do.

Webbo
 

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #148 on: April 03, 2017, 09:39:37 am »
Hello folks

Another little update from me in the form of another completed building kit. This time it is a Dairy Queen which was a large chain of outlets mainly dispensing soft ice cream (mainly sugar + emulsifiers) and soft drinks. When I was a kid, having a cone from the Dairy Queen was a real treat so the presence of this building on my layout will be totally down to nostalgia. A special treat from the Dairy Queen was the banana split costing 75 cents which consisted of three dollops of 'ice cream' each covered with a strawberry, pineapple, and chocolate syrup with a split banana down each side. Yummy! Nowadays, it has morphed into DQ and extended the "food" range to hamburgers and wraps etc. as well as retaining the original soft ice cream products.



The kit I have built is a newly released Walthers kit. It is a bit sparse with no decal sheets so I had to take Women and Men washroom signs from the Woodland Scenics D's Diner kit I've just completed and apply them to the toilet doors so the right gender goes into the right room. In contrast to the WS kit there are no details such as people, trash cans, or flower pots. However, the kit is straight and goes together really nicely with very tight tolerances. The picture above is shows my model Dairy Queen in its bare bones state, but I'm intending to add details such as at least 1 person inside the building and trash cans with some customers as well.

Next project is a gas (petrol) stations. Pretty soon though once I get these buildings complete, I'm going to have to confront the issue of streets and exactly where all these buildings go.

Webbo

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #149 on: April 03, 2017, 09:43:13 am »
Very cool!  :thumbsup:
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