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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #105 on: January 04, 2017, 07:15:42 am »
Merry Christmas to those who are reading this post and to those who are not.

It's Christmas Eve here in Oz so I thought I'd get a quick post in before Santa comes down the gas exhaust flue tomorrow morning. I've taken a rest from my refinery dilemma and am doing some other things including painting my fascia boards. I'd always thought a medium grey for these, but as soon as I'd painted half of them I knew I could do better. Second try was a lighter shade of grey and finally I have settled on a shade that was even lighter and seemed to match the scenery best..







Take home message - the colour of the fascia board will impact on the appearance of your layout and deserves careful thought.

By this time tomorrow Xmas will be all over for us here in Oz, but will be just getting underway in Europe and still being dreamed about in North America. No matter what time zone you're I wish you all have a great day.

The prospect of snow for us is not looking good for us tomorrow as we have a 31 degree forecast - Celsius that is.

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 :hellosign: I have just seen your thread, itís taking me ages to read all the threads and the info that goes with them. I have found your layout to be extremely brilliant, having viewed your videos on the cameras, for which i will reply to. Your scenery is brilliant, i also use foam for my scenery and i find like you that you can add and take away to your hearts content until it looks right, but i have even painted and put trees and stuff on and still i added to and taken away. I suppose it is personal choice. Thank you for a great thread.   :thumbsup:
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Re: Deadwood layout - abridged and illustrated
« Reply #106 on: January 08, 2017, 03:33:39 am »
Hello folks

A progress report from Deadwood. I still havenít made a decision on the refinery, but have been doing some other things in the meantime including painting my fascia boards, constructing extensive shelf space (still not enough), fitted my CD player, and installing a control station for my upper level track rings. Much of this is all about getting things off the floor and off the parts of my layout that will be under construction soon. Here is a photo showing the CD + speakers installation, some of the new shelving (already filled), and the upper level control station. The section of the upper level platform that the strings are attached to can used to raise that section like a drawbridge if necessary (rarely).



Deadwood in the sky has 3 track rings: a G gauge ring, an HO/OO ring (+ 1 siding), and an N scale ring with 2 sidings. These are what one might call minimalist layouts, but then I enjoy watching trains go round and round (and round and round, andÖ).. The G gauge ring needs a 10 amp controller, but the other 2 are controlled by an MRC Tech 6 2.0 which can be switched between DC and DCC.

Here is my Bachmann White Pass and Yukon Route ten-wheeler going round its track. The real WP & Y R was built in 1898 as a 3í gauge railroad to carry gold miners between Skagway, Alaska and White Horse, Yukon Territory during the Klondike gold rush.



The HO/OO tracks carry several trains including the Rapido ĎCanadianí passenger train seen in the above video, a Hornby Flying Scotsman train, and a couple of 50-year old Trix Twin locos (Britannia + Class 5) with trains. The Hornby loco and coaches are top notch in detail, but the Rapido Canadian really is museum quality. You future Rapido Pendolino owners are in for a real treat. The bars you can see on top of the FP9As are for breaking off icicles in the prototype so they donít smash the windows of the dome cars.



Not exactly N scale. Hope that youíre all off to a good start in 2017.

Webbo

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #107 on: January 08, 2017, 04:54:14 am »
Magic stuff, Ian.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #108 on: January 08, 2017, 10:08:37 am »
The way you have filmed it with the camera keeping track is excellent.

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« Reply #109 on: January 08, 2017, 11:35:39 am »
Thanks for the updates and photos. What a great space you have for your model railways and some very interesting and attractive rolling stock to run, too.

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« Reply #110 on: January 08, 2017, 01:28:22 pm »
 :greatpicturessign: Webbo.

Nice high level tour of the man cave too.  :D

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« Reply #111 on: January 08, 2017, 09:57:39 pm »
 :hellosign: Really superb video Webbo, thanks for sharing
    regards Derek.

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« Reply #112 on: January 09, 2017, 06:25:20 am »
Hello folks

A progress report from Deadwood. I still havenít made a decision on the refinery, but have been doing some other things in the meantime including painting my fascia boards, constructing extensive shelf space (still not enough), fitted my CD player, and installing a control station for my upper level track rings. Much of this is all about getting things off the floor and off the parts of my layout that will be under construction soon. Here is a photo showing the CD + speakers installation, some of the new shelving (already filled), and the upper level control station. The section of the upper level platform that the strings are attached to can used to raise that section like a drawbridge if necessary (rarely).



Deadwood in the sky has 3 track rings: a G gauge ring, an HO/OO ring (+ 1 siding), and an N scale ring with 2 sidings. These are what one might call minimalist layouts, but then I enjoy watching trains go round and round (and round and round, andÖ).. The G gauge ring needs a 10 amp controller, but the other 2 are controlled by an MRC Tech 6 2.0 which can be switched between DC and DCC.

Here is my Bachmann White Pass and Yukon Route ten-wheeler going round its track. The real WP & Y R was built in 1898 as a 3í gauge railroad to carry gold miners between Skagway, Alaska and White Horse, Yukon Territory during the Klondike gold rush.



The HO/OO tracks carry several trains including the Rapido ĎCanadianí passenger train seen in the above video, a Hornby Flying Scotsman train, and a couple of 50-year old Trix Twin locos (Britannia + Class 5) with trains. The Hornby loco and coaches are top notch in detail, but the Rapido Canadian really is museum quality. You future Rapido Pendolino owners are in for a real treat. The bars you can see on top of the FP9As are for breaking off icicles in the prototype so they donít smash the windows of the dome cars.



Not exactly N scale. Hope that youíre all off to a good start in 2017.

Webbo


Wow that is a  :superb layout: it got my heart fluttering in a nice way seeing and hearing your G train.  :thankyousign: for posting it and can we have some more please.      :beers:

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« Reply #113 on: February 01, 2017, 12:17:10 am »
Hello folks

Not much progress on Deadwood, but I have been beavering away on things to do with it.

The major piece remaining on the layout is the right hand (eastern) side which will be centred on town/industrial activities. The shape available is sort of tear dropped lying between my fiddle yard and the main line. I havenít decided on exactly what I want in this space except that it will include a depot building on the main line as well as a spur to a grain elevator.

The planning system being used is CARD (as does Dats 475) which is held down by pins and on which I will draw my roads etc. Besides the depot and the elevator I intend to include in this space at least two fast food outlets (Dairy Queen &  Dís Diner) as well as the Sunset Motel. I will build these kits first and then decide exactly where theyíll go by moving them around. So far Iíve built the grain elevator. In the following photos, it's not necessarily in its final position:







The elevator is the older of the two Walther kits now available. Itís a fairly simple kit, but threw up some challenges just the same. Some lessons learned:

1. The styrene plastic is not great for taking paint especially acrylics so spray painting with enamel primer is advisable. However, donít do this with when the air temperature is 38 C as I tried. The paint mostly dried before it hit the surface.

2. Fresh CA cement is good for putting the kit together. Old cement (year +) doesnít work so well as I found out the hard way.

3. A simple jig consisting of a square sided post mounted on a small flat board as shown below was useful for getting the sides of the building at right angles to each other and vertical when gluing.



Overall, the kit is of decent quality. The sides of the elevator building glued together closely with only tiny gaps, but the silo bins were a bit distorted. I glued these as close together as I could but Tamiya filler was required to fill gaps that remained.

Walthers suggests that you paint the elevator white to reflect the sun as in the real thing, but I don't ever remember seeing a white one. In my mind, concrete elevators are concrete coloured. Therein lies a problem that others have mentioned in this forum; that is, how to get concrete coloured paint. Woodland Scenics has a concrete colour as part of their road system top coat as well as one of their earth colour pigments. Neither look much like the concrete I've ever seen. The top coat appears to me as light yellow with a brownish tinge. However, I painted this stuff on and it worked very well as a first coat over the enamel primer. Then I sprayed on a dilute solution of Woodland Scenics slate grey until I achieved something that resembled a concrete colour to me at least.

Webbo





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« Reply #114 on: February 01, 2017, 06:20:54 am »
Thanks for the detailed update, Webbo.

The kit does look good.

Re painting the elevators white, here's a link to the Shredded Wheat factory here in Welwyn Garden City, my old home town.

http://www.c20society.org.uk/news/threat-to-demolish-shredded-wheat-silos/

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« Reply #115 on: February 01, 2017, 07:21:48 am »
Hello folks

Not much progress on Deadwood, but I have been beavering away on things to do with it.

The major piece remaining on the layout is the right hand (eastern) side which will be centred on town/industrial activities. The shape available is sort of tear dropped lying between my fiddle yard and the main line. I havenít decided on exactly what I want in this space except that it will include a depot building on the main line as well as a spur to a grain elevator.

The planning system being used is CARD (as does Dats 475) which is held down by pins and on which I will draw my roads etc. Besides the depot and the elevator I intend to include in this space at least two fast food outlets (Dairy Queen &  Dís Diner) as well as the Sunset Motel. I will build these kits first and then decide exactly where theyíll go by moving them around. So far Iíve built the grain elevator. In the following photos, it's not necessarily in its final position:







The elevator is the older of the two Walther kits now available. Itís a fairly simple kit, but threw up some challenges just the same. Some lessons learned:

1. The styrene plastic is not great for taking paint especially acrylics so spray painting with enamel primer is advisable. However, donít do this with when the air temperature is 38 C as I tried. The paint mostly dried before it hit the surface.

2. Fresh CA cement is good for putting the kit together. Old cement (year +) doesnít work so well as I found out the hard way.

3. A simple jig consisting of a square sided post mounted on a small flat board as shown below was useful for getting the sides of the building at right angles to each other and vertical when gluing.



Overall, the kit is of decent quality. The sides of the elevator building glued together closely with only tiny gaps, but the silo bins were a bit distorted. I glued these as close together as I could but Tamiya filler was required to fill gaps that remained.

Walthers suggests that you paint the elevator white to reflect the sun as in the real thing, but I don't ever remember seeing a white one. In my mind, concrete elevators are concrete coloured. Therein lies a problem that others have mentioned in this forum; that is, how to get concrete coloured paint. Woodland Scenics has a concrete colour as part of their road system top coat as well as one of their earth colour pigments. Neither look much like the concrete I've ever seen. The top coat appears to me as light yellow with a brownish tinge. However, I painted this stuff on and it worked very well as a first coat over the enamel primer. Then I sprayed on a dilute solution of Woodland Scenics slate grey until I achieved something that resembled a concrete colour to me at least.

Webbo


Looks great for me and the size of your layout is amazing. Some companies when laying concrete did add colour to it sometimes for customers, i have seen in my time driveways with coloured concrete, but it didnít really take off here. Please show more has you progress Webbo, really love your layout.    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #116 on: February 01, 2017, 09:47:29 am »
The grain elevator looks very good.
If you have a lot of kits to build you might want to consider buying some of these. A little expensive but having seen them in operation they are very good.........

http://www.yorkmodelmaking.co.uk/yorks-magnetic-mates-box-set-3

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #117 on: February 01, 2017, 11:53:55 am »
yorkmodelmaking.co.uk is in the Google index, but the none of the links work.
With kind regards
Laurence

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Re: Deadwood layout - unabridged and illustrated
« Reply #118 on: February 01, 2017, 11:59:10 am »
yorkmodelmaking.co.uk is in the Google index, but the none of the links work.
I just followed Mick's link and there was this banner across the top of the page:

We will be carrying out planned maintenance work on our website on 1st and 2nd of February 2017. This website may be offline or not function correctly during the update on these dates, we apologise for any inconvenience.
Tony

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« Reply #119 on: February 01, 2017, 12:12:07 pm »
I must have got lucky as I had their site open in a separate tab when I posted at 09.47

 

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